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Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59
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Subject: The TANGERINE AMBIENCE CDs
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Really-From: 'Molasar's Bent Cold Finger'
>Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 09:57:46 -0700 (PDT)
>Subject: Re: Tangerine Ambience II
>From: tadream mailing list
>Really-From: Sean Montgomery
>
>All in all, it's a good disk, but for the most part doesn't offer
>anything new. It'll just make you want to hear the originals. [. . .]
I wish TANGENTS resulted in such a want. ;)
>[. . .] It would have been nice if the interpretations had been a bit
>more daring. [. . .]
What, Volume 1's 'Bent Cold Sidewalk' wasn't daring enough? (This
is this CD's one outstanding track, by the way, for those who haven't
heard it.)
Seriously, though, I'd rather have folks play it a tad safe if the
alternative is anything like The Orb's 'remix' of 'Towards the Evening
Star'! :( ;) :)
-- Steven Feldman
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Subject: Wuivend Reit....
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I came across a couple copies of Schmoelling's 'Wuivend Reit' that
I'm willing
to trade...anyone interested, please e-mail me off-list.
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Subject: Redshift, Pickford
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Really-From: Steve_Whiteley@N... (Steve Whiteley)
Hey Dreamers,
I finally recieved Redshift and Pickford's Xenomorph, Maelstrom. Thanks to
those who posted the WaveSpell sale and promoted Eurock.
Although I would not have guessed it but, Redshift has got most of my time.
It visits the same places as Rubycon, Richocet, Encore and Sorcerer. While
most of us have been to those worlds before, I would say that there are
landscapes left to explore, such as boundaries between Rubycon and Richocet
which Ether does so well. Where Tangerine Dream may have been the pioneer
explorers, others will mount new expeditions or do some homesteading and
have a different perspective on the place. Maybe we will have a Waldens
Pond soon. Some good reviews have already been posted on the individual
songs, search them out. I will buy the first one soon.
Could someone mail me a Shreeve hit list?
The two Pickford releases are theme related, spoken word statements set the
mood for many pieces. Such as, ' (phone) ring... ring... ring... (surf dude
voice) Hey dude, you have reached planet earth, we are out evolving at the
moment but leave your name and message and we will get back' < some great
EM music sequences > Anilalator voice annouces the end < some great bass
heavy sequences > 'ring.. ring... ring... ...' nobodys home. IMO Andy
Pickford has been influenced by a little TD, more Jarre and probably alot
of Andy. As, some of you can tell I have only listen to both once, but
wanted to offer other lurkers a quick look.
As a new musical explorer on the list, I would like to thank you old timers
in advance for more of your musical advice. This list has proven much more
reliable than picking by album cover, title names, record label and former
members.
Later,
Steve
nw (now waiting) for logostypes
npimh (now playing in my head) Redshift Ether 'Powerful'
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Look at:
http://www.reference.com/cgi-bin/pn/listarch?list=tadream@c...
Old archives are at mirrors.aol.com via FTP, probably under
/pub/music/lists/tadream
The FAQ sent with new-user incorporates infos from all of the
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Subject: Re: An Eyewitness to the 1984 THE KEEP Cassette
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Really-From: 'Marcel Engels'
>My
>local music store carried the soundtrack on cassette (contrary to what
>many people say, this was released on cassette) but when I went to
>purchase it it was gone!
(snip)
>I picked up that cassette about 100 times over the next month,
>wanting it despeartely but not having the money to buy it. Finally, my
>father said he'd get it for me, so we went to the store and... yep, you
>guessed it... it was GONE! Now, many many people have insisted that The
>Keep was NEVER released. But I held that little cassette in my hot little
>hands several times over a month.
Well, they all had it in their hands (LP or cassette) and NOBODY had enough
money to buy the damn thing????
They all went home to get money and when they got back it was gone.
In the above text he says he picked it up 100 times over the next month...so
it was available at least for a month!! Didn't anybody just thought: heck, i
will buy this cassette?
I just refuse to believe that! I mean, how much does a cassette or LP cost?
As long as I see these stories and no-one has proof, I don't believe it was
released, sorry.
Marcel
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Subject: Re: An Eyewitness to the 1984 THE KEEP Cassette
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Really-From: Vic Rek
> Really-From: Steven Feldman
>
> I just found the following two posts in the guestbook at the TDI
> website. Poor bastard, this Sutekh: he not only held the 1984 cassette
> release of THE KEEP in his hand once but *several times*, only to spend
> the rest of his life having to hear most of the rest of TD fandom say
> that he's wrong. (When you hold something in your hand *several* times,
> it is pretty fucking A well hard to convince yourself that you did
> otherwise, fer crying out loud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Funny thing, I have discovered a source today for the original The Keep
music, this is not joke (but read on to determine the validity).
I talked to a guy today that says The Keep LP exists and that a few
years ago he made a CD-R of it. After further questioning, like what did
this LP look like, he finally admitted to me that someone gave him a
tape of it and he did not see the actual LP. Now I wonder if this is
the same music we find on the two bootleg versions? Should I go ahead
and get it to end speculation? :-)
Vic
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Subject: Vic's Friend's Tape of THE KEEP LP
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>Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:56:07 -0400
>Subject: Re: An Eyewitness to the 1984 THE KEEP Cassette
>From: tadream mailing list
>Really-From: Vic Rek
>
>Funny thing, I have discovered a source today for the original The Keep
>music, this is not joke (but read on to determine the validity).
>
>I talked to a guy today that says The Keep LP exists and that a few
>years ago he made a CD-R of it. After further questioning, like what did
>this LP look like, he finally admitted to me that someone gave him a
>tape of it and he did not see the actual LP. Now I wonder if this is
>the same music we find on the two bootleg versions? [. . .]
Well, there's one way to find out: if there is stuff on it that
does not appear on the Blue Moon boot, the CD-R boot, and the TDI ltd.
ed. -- *and* is not obviously just another RUBYCON REVISITED hoax --
we might have the genuine article.
>[. . .] Should I go ahead and get it to end speculation? :-)
I *hope* that that's a rhetorical question; no, Vic, give me the
guy's phone number/postal address/e-mail address and *I'll* do the
deed *for* you. ;) Hee hee hee, ho ho, aaaaah-hahahahaha!
(Gee wilikers, but ain't it interesting that this so-called
non-existent LP has been sighted more than any other rare album you
can name? Makes you think there might be something to it, eh? Duh!)
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Really-From: Michael Fox
At 05:48 PM 4/14/98 +0200, you wrote:
>>Really-From: 'Steven Feldman, Splittin' Hairs Agin'
>
>
>
>> Recorded live at the Jodrell Bank Planetarium 7.12.96
>>
>> So, December 1996 is listed on the sampler, while July 12, 1996 is
>>listed on Redshift's second album (ETHER). Has this been discussed
>>before?
Hey Steven! That darned old Dewey Decimal system must REALLY be perplexing,
huh?
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Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59
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Subject: On Likelihood & Belief: The 1984 KEEP Album & UFOs
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Really-From: Steven Feldman
>Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 21:56:05 +0200
>Subject: Re: An Eyewitness to the 1984 THE KEEP Cassette
>From: tadream mailing list
>Really-From: Marcel Engels
>
>Well, they all had it in their hands (LP or cassette) and NOBODY had
>enough money to buy the damn thing???? [. . .]
There is a difference between *nobody* and *nobody on this list*--
but some myopic types and/or egomaniacs don't understand this.
I was a dishwasher when I saw the album. I truly did not have the
money at the time. It was a Wednesday and I got paid on Friday. When
I cashed my check and went back for the record, it was gone. Is this so
hard to believe, fer cripes sake?!? At least one other subscriber to
this list has an almost identical story to tell. I know it's hard for
rich people with computers and a cushy life to empathize with those less
fortunate, but hey, what happened happened. Your not believing it will
not change the facts.
>They all went home to get money and when they got back it was gone.
>In the above text he says he picked it up 100 times over the next
>month...so it was available at least for a month!! Didn't anybody just
>thought: heck, i will buy this cassette?
Apparently not.
>I just refuse to believe that! I mean, how much does a cassette or LP
>cost? As long as I see these stories and no-one has proof, I don't
>believe it was released, sorry.
Considering the ever-mounting bulk of anecdotal evidence related
to this subject, I think you're being a tad dense; I once gave a class
presentation about the time I saw UFOs in New Mexico. Predictably,
there were hecklers in the classroom who said that they didn't believe
in UFOs. That's all fine and dandy, but it didn't address the premise
of what I'd said. I'd said that *whatever it was that I saw* shined a
coherent beam of light down from about the height of one mile down into
a mountain about two miles away -- that said light did not spread out
on its way down to the ground -- and that my only possible conclusion
was that the production of such a light is physically impossible given
our current state of technological development. In this context, the
statement, 'I don't believe in UFOs' is sort of inane. The notion or
premise that an object performed a feat unperformable by any known
device demands that conventional explanations simply do not apply. By
the same token, the fact that THE KEEP is the *only* apocryphal TD
album that people have continually claimed to have seen should tell
you something.
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>Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:46:27 -0500
>Subject: Re: Put This List's Archives on the Web!
>From: tadream mailing list
>Really-From: David Datta
>
>Look at:
>
>http://www.reference.com/cgi-bin/pn/listarch?list=tadream@c...
Wow! What's there is great, but it's only 4/9/1998 to 4/16/1998.
>Old archives are at mirrors.aol.com via FTP, probably under
>/pub/music/lists/tadream
These are not searchable, though, I assume.
If someone could come up with the webspace, would you object to
their linking the www.reference.com search engine to all the back-
archives -- or is that against www.reference.com's rules? (How hard
is it to come up with a search feature for mailing list archives,
anyways, I wonder.)
-- Steven Feldman
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Subject: keep cd
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Really-From: KRAUSENECKS
Hi Gang,
I recently acquired a spare copy of THE KEEP official copy, with the
slipcase on cd. This is the copy which was only sold overseas at the concerts (
and at a few specialty shops). I paid more than your average cd cost for it and
am taking bids on it. Keep in mind while this has been stated as it will be
domestically released, it still HAS NOT. If it does ever see the light of day,
I will be happy , but in the meantime.......please feel free to make an offer.
Highest takes the prize. By the if someone can show me photographic proof of
the so called KEEP lp I will pay $100.00. So there Mr. Feldman!
PLEASE EMAIL ME PRIVATELY OR YOU WILL BECOME THE SCURGE OF THIS LIST!!!!!
Chris
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Subject: The Keep
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Really-From: Glenn Reinicke
Since we're all having so much fun with The Keep soundtrack, does anyone
have a copy of the 1997 Limited Edition CD so I can get a listen? If you
do, please email me off-list. Thanks!
Glenn Reinicke
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> >http://www.reference.com/cgi-bin/pn/listarch?list=tadream@c...
>
> Wow! What's there is great, but it's only 4/9/1998 to 4/16/1998.
Ah, but you can adjust the range of your search farther down the page!
SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator
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Subject: Is Quoting Text via the reference.com tadream archives possible?
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Really-From: Steven Feldman
>Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:03:07 -0700 (PDT)
>Subject: Re: Put Pre-This-Week's Archives on the Web
>From: tadream mailing list
>Really-From: Sean Montgomery
>
>> >http://www.reference.com/cgi-bin/pn/listarch?list=tadream@c...
>>
>> Wow! What's there is great, but it's only 4/9/1998 to 4/16/1998.
>
>Ah, but you can adjust the range of your search farther down the page!
Whoops. You're right. It allows for searching back to Dec. 1997.
Hey, four months is pretty good.
I can't figure out how to quote text in a post, though. Is it
possible on reference.com's system???
If there is a way, I'll post a message to the TDI guestbook, telling
everyone there that they can read and post to the tadream mailing list
right from the web (with or without a hotmail account). Sound good?
-- Steven Feldman
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Subject: RE: RE: Put an end to speculations
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Hi,
it's me again... I see, even after posting the whole article from 'Dream
Collector' #21, questions were left. Here's the answer:
> Really-From: Sean Montgomery
>
> ... did you notice that 'The Keep' isn't one of the 25 listed?...
Of course: The official release of 'The Keep' will be on Virgin, TDI has only
issued the pre-release series of 150 copies which have been sold during the
British tour in autumn. Regarding 'The Keep' on Virgin, no details are known so
far. 'Dream Collector' readers could find this note in issze #20 of January,
21st:
--->
'When 'Dream Collector' inquired for 'The Keep', Virgin could not yet tell
an official date of release.'
<---
And there is *nothing* new to add. 'The Keep' still is not on Virgin's release
schedule for the next weeks / months.
> > - Antique Dreams (rare unreleased material 1970-1982)
> > - Twilight folder (rare unreleased material 1983-1997)
>
> These items particularly intrigue me. Does this mean totally unreleased
> (as in Dream Roots Disk 5) or just *rare* (like Ultima Thule)?
'Unreleased' means 'unreleased'. Some of these tracks may circulate on tapes
already, but they have not yet been released officially so far. 'Rare' means
'rare', so this could also include material which is unavailable today, like
'Ultima Thule'. But this is speculation so far, track listings do not exist yet.
> Really-From: Tdune
>
> Well, some people on this list (including me) do not subscribe to 'Dream
> Collector' so it is news to us!!
It has not been new to the 'Dream Collector' subscribers for two months...
By the way, subscribing is quite simple. Drop me a line privately ;-)
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>Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:05:37
>Subject: Re: The ETHER excerpt on the Champagne Lake Sampler
>From: tadream mailing list
>Really-From: Michael Fox
>
>At 05:48 PM 4/14/98 +0200, you wrote:
>
>>>Really-From: 'Steven Feldman, Splittin' Hairs Agin'
>>
>>
>>> Recorded live at the Jodrell Bank Planetarium 7.12.96
>>>
>>> So, December 1996 is listed on the sampler, while July 12, 1996 is
>>>listed on Redshift's second album (ETHER). Has this been discussed
>>>before?
>
>Hey Steven! That darned old Dewey Decimal system must REALLY be
>perplexing, huh?
Eeep! X-0 You got me by the short and curlies, this time, Michael.
Now let go! ;)
-- Steven Feldman
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> > ... did you notice that 'The Keep' isn't one of the 25 listed?...
>
> Of course: The official release of 'The Keep' will be on Virgin..
D'oh! Okay, that's just a mistake on my part. I went back and read the
article on the TD webpage about The Keep. Sure enough, it says right
there that it's to be a Virgin release. Still, it also says copies would
be made available through the website, and I guess legal wrangling
has made that impossible for the time being.
> > > - Antique Dreams (rare unreleased material 1970-1982)
> > > - Twilight folder (rare unreleased material 1983-1997)
> >
> 'Unreleased' means 'unreleased'. Some of these tracks may circulate on tapes
> already, but they have not yet been released officially so far. 'Rare' means
> 'rare'
I was just thinking out loud when I asked about this. I wasn't sure if
there was to be a comma or an ampersand between the words rare and
unreleased! :-)
Thanks again, Peter!
SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator
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Could someone please explain what TANGENTIZED means?? :-)
Mark
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>Really-From: Steven Feldman
>>Funny thing, I have discovered a source today for the original The Keep
>>music, this is not joke (but read on to determine the validity).
> Well, there's one way to find out: if there is stuff on it that
>does not appear on the Blue Moon boot, the CD-R boot, and the TDI ltd.
>ed. -- *and* is not obviously just another RUBYCON REVISITED hoax --
>we might have the genuine article.
Well guys, just another lame rumour. I did not mean this to be a joke
because Steve's post was just in sync with my information. The guy told me
that the CD has 15 tracks and is about 65-66 minutes long. I said 'this
can't be a tape of the LP - there's too much music' - answer 'maybe some
bonus stuff was added'. So basically this is the source for the Blue Moon
bootleg, based upon the price (which I will keep confindential). Another
Keep mystery disspelled - sorry Steven - if I just had that 5 bucks way back
when... ;-)
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>Could someone please explain what TANGENTIZED means?? :-)
>
>Mark
>
>
Really cool music....ruined...
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I will be in London April 23-27-98...Edinburgh April
28-29-98...Salisbury April 30-98...and Paris May1-5. If anyone would
like me to bring American cds etc, please email me off list to discuss.
Patric Donaghy Printing Impressions
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Could someone please translate the intro to the Poland CD? Is it German or
Polish?
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>
> >My
> >local music store carried the soundtrack on cassette (contrary to what
> >many people say, this was released on cassette) but when I went to
> >purchase it it was gone!
>
> (snip)
>
> >I picked up that cassette about 100 times over the next month,
> >wanting it despeartely but not having the money to buy it. Finally, my
> >father said he'd get it for me, so we went to the store and... yep, you
> >guessed it... it was GONE! Now, many many people have insisted that The
> >Keep was NEVER released. But I held that little cassette in my hot little
> >hands several times over a month.
>
> Well, they all had it in their hands (LP or cassette) and NOBODY had enough
> money to buy the damn thing????
> They all went home to get money and when they got back it was gone.
> In the above text he says he picked it up 100 times over the next month...so
> it was available at least for a month!! Didn't anybody just thought: heck, i
> will buy this cassette?
> I just refuse to believe that! I mean, how much does a cassette or LP cost?
> As long as I see these stories and no-one has proof, I don't believe it was
> released, sorry.
Hell yeah! Finally it is said with precision and truth! There is no
bloody Keep cassette! There is no bloody LP! I know just about every
hardcore soundtrack collector worth knowing and not ONE of them owns
this release, in any form!! Maybe they all got to the store and realized
they had quid instead of dollars so they couldn't buy the damn thing.
They went to the bank to exchange quid for $ or dollars for quid and
when they got back...oh bloody too late!! Marcel's right!! Don't any of
you morons seeing this release carry more than $15 bucks around with
you!! Sheesh!!
Dano ;-)
np: Wetton (Chasing the Deer)
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Just a little correction (very minor, but it may make your day) but you do NOT
have 3 meg of
space at GeoCities...you have 6 meg...they just raised the base amount for all
of the
geocitizens...just thought I'd put a smile on your face. :->
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> Really-From: 'Jens Peschke'
>
> >Really-From: Steven Feldman
> [...]
>
> [The tadream list archives, www access]
>
> > Even better, there is a kick-ass search engine on the list I just
> >mentioned: it can search the entirety of the list's archives by keyword!
> >Now *that* is something we all could benefit from.
>
> Yummi !
>
> Great idea, Steven. Just go for it ! :-D
>
> Iīve already talked with Vic Rek off-list about setting up such a www archive
> just a few days ago.
>
> The most important thing is that we need someone (or a group of people)
> who care about such an archive. I donīt have time left. NO.
> Anyone, anyone, Lawry Simm ?
>
> What I actually did was to reserve a 3 MB *free* web space on
http://www.geocities.com
> and build up a quick and dirty 1st draft with no content so far.
>
> Choose 'File manager' on the geocities web site,
> the membername is 'tadreamlist',
> the password 'rocks'
> to upload or edit files.
>
> tadreamlist rocks, eh ?
>
> The crappy 1st draft is to be found at
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/3748/
>
> The only important thing is to include a geocities link on each HTML page.
> if ASCII files are used (*.txt) thereīs no need for any geocities advert.
>
> So Steven, now itīs your ball... ;-)
> Delete and/or edit the stuff. ;-)
>
> Kind Regards
>
> Jens
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Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.'
> Really-From: 'Dan J. Schulte'
>
>
> Hell yeah! Finally it is said with precision and truth! There is no
> bloody Keep cassette! There is no bloody LP! I know just about every
Then what's that *thing* you were holding for Steve in your apartment, next
to the soundtracks case?
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>
>Hi Gang,
> I recently acquired a spare copy of THE KEEP official copy, with the
slipcase on cd. This is the copy which was only sold overseas at the concerts (
and at a few specialty shops). I paid more than your average cd cost for it and
am taking bids on it. Keep in mind while this has been stated as it will be
domestically released, it still HAS NOT. If it does ever see the light of day,
I will be happy , but in the meantime.......please feel free to make an offer.
Highest takes the prize. By the if someone can show me photographic proof of
the so called KEEP lp I will pay $100.00. So there Mr. Feldman!
>PLEASE EMAIL ME PRIVATELY OR YOU WILL BECOME THE SCURGE OF THIS LIST!!!!!
>Chris
>Bruno@c...
>
I bid $1. Let me know if mine's the highest offer...
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I have been sitting here pretty silently listening to all of this riggomoroar
about The Keep, and my question is, if this cd exists, why won't anyone put out
sound samples on the web for us to listen to? Be it Wavs, mp3's, RealAudio's,
whatever, lets hear it...share a little of the wealth and pleasure of listening
to it with everyone. If you need web space to publish it on, I can provide
that, between my web page, my girlfriends(Jen's) webpage(which will have a
sectiopn about TD very soon) and the space my provider gives me, I am sure that
I can find all the spce you will be needing, just let me know
when it is ready.
The controversy of it's release can be easily solved, if you are willing to do
a little bit of digging. According to the Transfer of Information act of 1972,
passed by the UN, any published matreial made after that date MUST be
registered with the country in which it was published(that is of course if it
is a country in the UN) and that these reccords are to be public. I know here
in the US I can go to any library and look up all of the CD's, books,
magaziens, and pamphlets that were published in the past year. So if you know
what country it was published in, someone in that country just needs to do a
little digging.
That is my 2 cents...can I get some change?
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>Really-From: mlivsey@n... (Mike Livsey)
>
>>PLEASE EMAIL ME PRIVATELY OR YOU WILL BECOME THE SCURGE OF THIS LIST!!!!!
>>Chris
>
>
>I bid $1. Let me know if mine's the highest offer...
I'll meet your $1 and raise you $1.50!!!!!!!
::E::
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It's Polish, but other than a few words of greeting and the obvious
introduction at the end I have no idea what is said (I do Russian, not
Polish).
I am interested also in what is said, though I suspect it it pretty
mundane.......
MPoort
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Really-From: Colin Knowles
> Really-From: Vicky Rudd
>
> I've noticed that everyone here has been a fan of TD for many years and is
> thusly put off by any of the new music. I don't believe the new music is
> any better or worse than the old music, IMVHO, of course. After all, it
> was the new music that attracted me to TD in the first place. And I still
> haven't been exposed to a whole lot of the old music. Yet I still love TD.
> My favorite CD would have to be ToB. And I started with Legend, which
> would be my next favorite. My extremely small (but growing as I have the
> $$$) collection consists of Canyon Dreams, 220 Volt Live, Rockoon, Goblin's
> Club, Turn of the Tides, Private Music, Dream Mixes 2, and the 2 I
> mentioned above. Through a friend of mine, I have been exposed to some of
> the older stuff as well, like Rubycon and Phaedra.
>
> It's all in your perception. And I do realize that perception is 99% of
> reality. True, the new stuff is different, but that's all it
> is...different. Give the new stuff a break... you might find you actually
> enjoy it. I certainly have.
>
> Victoria
> Sunset: That moment in which the luminous aura of the moon
> replaces the last blazing remnants of the sun...
He..He..He..Shame you weren't on the list a couple of months ago......:-))
I actually have the opposite problem...what does everyone see (or hear?) in the
older stuff?
I do like some pieces of old stuff (pre 90's), I love Green Desert (save the
title
track!), but
for me the newer stuff is just sooooo much better. More tuneful, better
structure,
more feeling..
I could go on but not being a music guru I'll leave it there.
IMHO GC is *the* best TD (save DM maybe) ever...
Colin not wanting to re-start the '90's stuff is crap!' thread but fearing it
may
be just too late...
n.p. Rutles--Archaeology.
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Meshy wrote :
>I got out my old WE cd t'nite, and noticed it was dropping out all over the
>place (kinda like pausing it for a half sec. or less and then unpausing it-)
It's a phenomenon called cd-rot. The CD isn't rotting away, it's
corroding.
This is caused by microscopic holes in the plastic covering the silver
layer.
Air can then get in touch with the silver layer, causing it to corrode
away
leaving a small pinhole.
Poor production is most often the cause of the problem.
I have a few CDs with the same problem. LiveMiles and a few other non-TD
CDs.
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feldon@p... wrote :
>Just wanted to wholeheartedly recommend that anyone who doesn't already
>have it, get Tangerine Ambience II.
Can't agree with you more :-)
> #1 it's 100% analog according to the cover.
Not quite 100%. I know for a fact that the CD features Roland JD800,
KorgX2
Yamaha CS1x (possibly digitals too), and samples.
F.ex White Eagle was made almost exclusively on a KorgX2. I know, I was
there !
Don't believe the instruments list in the cover. It only states the
analog machines :-/
Flemming, Denmark.
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: Really-From: Mark Fonda
: Could someone please explain what TANGENTIZED means?? :-)
It refers to the re-working of older material as done in the Tangent's
box set. Some tracks were reproduced with only clean-up and
remastering. Others were messed with, new back tracks, different
speeds, added drums, etc.. The messed with tracks are said to be
tangentized.
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>I just refuse to believe that! I mean, how much does a cassette
or LP cost?
>As long as I see these stories and no-one has proof, I don't
believe it was
>released, sorry.
We're not talking UFO's here, we're talking about an album!
What's so hard to believe? The thing I DON'T believe is that it wasn't
released, TD statements notwithstanding. They've gotten plenty of
information wrong before, either accidentally or intentionally, so I'm
more likely to believe Steven and the Keep Patrol than Ed himself.
Scott
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>Could someone please translate the intro to the Poland CD? Is
it German or
>Polish?
This should be added to the FAQ, no?
Scott
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tadream mailing list wrote:
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> Really-From: Mark Fonda
>
> Could someone please explain what TANGENTIZED means?? :-)
>
> Mark
'Tangentized' is a neologism that we, the people on this list, have
created following the release of the 'Tangent' boxset. TD released
that 5 CD boxset in 1994, featuring some previously unrealeased
tracks as well as some old classics, but those were remixed, with
added sounds and effects on top of the previously released track.
Some people liked it, some people hated it. This technic of making
'new' with 'old' has been dubbed 'tangentizing', and can now be found
on several other CD released after.
I hope this answers your question.
C.B. Vincent Goudreault
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online since early 1993, TD fan since 1977
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At 03:03 AM 4/16/1998 EDT, MPOORT wrote:
>
>It's Polish, but other than a few words of greeting and the obvious
>introduction at the end I have no idea what is said (I do Russian, not
>Polish).
>
>I am interested also in what is said, though I suspect it it pretty
>mundane.......
Vic??
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I see the two yucksters are back..or did they never leave. I tell you what I
will split it with E and Dano each of you send me .50 cents and I'll cut it in
half. HEH HEH!
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Really-From: 'Marek Mastalerz'
The introduction to 'Poland' can be translated this way:
'Good evening. State artistic agency PAGART and State Entertainment
Eterprises IMPART invites You to to a concert of a group, being one of the
creators of the style, called electronic rock. (...) Before You: Chris
Franke, Johannes Schmoelling and Edgar Froese - or Tangerine Dream.'
Of course it's Polish - what else language can it be with a title like
that?!! I indicated that a part of the prerecorded presentation was deleted
(it was rather long. The voice belongs to Jerzy Kordowich, Polish DJ,
presenting in his programs only electronic music (he is active to this day
and very verbose guy). Both of 'agencies', governmentally run (as everything
at that time) are, as far as I know, now defunct.
BTW: I don't want to be offensive, but it's for the asker: German language
is completly different from Polish. They are not even in the same language
group: Polish is Slavic and German is... of course, Germanic. With the ear
like that, how can You listen to music?
It reminds me the joke about the first grade of musical education: it is
when one knows that the music is played.
And some additional remarks about the concert on POLAND:There were two shows
in Warsaw, at 16:00 and 19:00, as far as I remember. There was only one
power outage during the first show, not several, as was mentioned on the
list some time ago. The break happened some 15 minutes into the first set.
The fuses blew, because some cretins did not switched them to stronger ones,
as was specified by the band in the contract. The second set went without
hindrance.
(The power was down for some 25 minutes. After the first set there appeared
Edgar Froese and some Polish guy. He translated that after what happened the
band will take only 10-minute break, although normally it lasts 15 minutes.
After that there was a 20-minute break :-)) During it some young man on the
floor danced rasta; there were those who joked that the band can pack up and
go - they are not needed anymore.)
A few weeks later Polish TV shown half-hour long film with the part of the
first set from the second concert (up until the end of the first movement of
'Tangent'). So I suppose the full material should be still somewhere in the
vaults.
As for the contents of the show (at least the first one):
- in the second set there was 'Kiev Mission' with vocal part in Polish; as
far as I remember after the second movement of 'Barbakane'
- the set ended with identical finale as 'Pergamon'. This was cut out on the
CD; maybe bearded Eddie did not (then) like to repeat himself?
- after the first show there was only one encore: 'Choronzon'. All the
audience in the rows stood up and banged to the rythm with folding chairs.
The noise was something awesome.
After the second show there were three encores: 'Choronzon', 'Rarebird' and
something else, 'White Eagle' I suppose. For a long time my secret hope was
that with the re-issue of 'Poland' the full version of the show would be
presented. Alas, it was not to be.
I've been there. I remember.
If you look closely to photo 85 in 'The Dream Roots Collection', you will
see a nasty camera snout lurking behind Johannes S. Don't know who compiled
the data to this booklet - did Edward forgot the Warsaw shows were in '83,
not '84? It was 10th of December - so close, but no cigar.
P.S. If somebody could help me obtain 'Three Tier Dreams', 'Three Tier
Dreams Too' and 'Spherical Harmonics One', I would be grateful till the
grave - as the Polish saying go. You may contact me at markmast@k...
Marek the Alienist (Polish, of course - whaddya think?)
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In a message dated 98-04-15 23:39:50 EDT, you write:
<< Don't any of
you morons seeing this release carry more than $15 bucks around with
you!! Sheesh!! >>
or at least beg the store owner to hold it for you?
tom w
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> Really-From: 'Marek Mastalerz'
>
> The introduction to 'Poland' can be translated this way:
> 'Good evening. State artistic agency PAGART and State Entertainment
> Eterprises IMPART invites You to to a concert of a group, being one of the
> creators of the style, called electronic rock. (...) Before You: Chris
> Franke, Johannes Schmoelling and Edgar Froese - or Tangerine Dream.'
Thanks Marek for posting this. I was sitting here (at work) picking my
brain trying to remember the exact words without the CD playing. Sounds
right on! Well, once less task when I get home.
> BTW: I don't want to be offensive, but it's for the asker: German language
> is completly different from Polish. They are not even in the same language
> group: Polish is Slavic and German is... of course, Germanic. With the ear
> like that, how can You listen to music?
> It reminds me the joke about the first grade of musical education: it is
> when one knows that the music is played.
This comment is along the lines of an American freshmen college student
being given a geography exam. Some 40% of the entering college students
could not identify Japan on a world map and some thought that Europe is
a country!
> After that there was a 20-minute break :-)) During it some young man on the
> floor danced rasta; there were those who joked that the band can pack up and
> go - they are not needed anymore.)
Was it the vodka or the music?
> As for the contents of the show (at least the first one):
> - in the second set there was 'Kiev Mission' with vocal part in Polish; as
This I've gotta have! Anyone have this on tape?
> P.S. If somebody could help me obtain 'Three Tier Dreams', 'Three Tier
> Dreams Too' and 'Spherical Harmonics One', I would be grateful till the
> grave - as the Polish saying go. You may contact me at markmast@k...
> Marek the Alienist (Polish, of course - whaddya think?)
Yes Marek, I can help you, and BTW your package was mailed today :-)
Thanks for the great post!
Vic
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At 10:42 AM 4/16/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Really-From: Vic Rek
>
>> Really-From: 'Marek Mastalerz'
>>
>> The introduction to 'Poland' can be translated this way:
>> 'Good evening. State artistic agency PAGART and State Entertainment
>> Eterprises IMPART invites You to to a concert of a group, being one of the
>> creators of the style, called electronic rock. (...) Before You: Chris
>> Franke, Johannes Schmoelling and Edgar Froese - or Tangerine Dream.'
>
>Thanks Marek for posting this. I was sitting here (at work) picking my
>brain trying to remember the exact words without the CD playing. Sounds
>right on! Well, once less task when I get home.
>
I still have some of the intro memorized even though I don't speak or
understand a word of Polish!
Polska adencia testitchna pagaruut.
forgive me!
Morgan
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> Really-From: Colin Knowles
>
> IMHO GC is *the* best TD (save DM maybe) ever...
>
> Colin not wanting to re-start the '90's stuff is crap!' thread but
fearing it may
> be just too late...
Everyone has their favorites...but why would you place GC above Force
Majuere, Tangram, Underwater Sunlight and Poland?
::E::
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>Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...>
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Hahahahaha!!!! One of the coolest jokes I've seen for a while!
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KRAUSENECKS wrote:
> [...] By the if someone can show me photographic proof of the so called
> KEEP lp I will pay $100.00. So there Mr. Feldman!
> PLEASE EMAIL ME PRIVATELY OR YOU WILL BECOME THE SCURGE OF THIS =
> LIST!!!!!
How's this for proof?
http://members.tripod.com/~Beige/keepstrk.gif
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>Really-From: KRAUSENECKS
>
>
>I see the two yucksters are back..or did they never leave. I tell you what
I will split it with E and >Dano each of you send me .50 cents and I'll cut
it in half. HEH HEH!
Sounds like a good deal....but it was Mike and I, haha...unless Dan wants
to contribute, then we can break it into three pieces!
[Now, the dilemma is whether to send this post to the Molasar list or the
Tadream list...hmm....]
::E::
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> How's this for proof?
>
> http://members.tripod.com/~Beige/keepstrk.gif
Not bad...but it looks like a 'text-added-in-Photoshop' job to me!
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> >
> >
> >Hi Gang,
> > I recently acquired a spare copy of THE KEEP official copy, with the
slipcase on cd. This is the copy which was only sold overseas at the concerts (
and at a few specialty shops). I paid more than your average cd cost for it and
am taking bids on it. Keep in mind while this has been stated as it will be
domestically released, it still HAS NOT. If it does ever see the light of day,
I will be happy , but in the meantime.......please feel free to make an offer.
Highest takes the prize. By the
> >PLEASE EMAIL ME PRIVATELY OR YOU WILL BECOME THE SCURGE OF THIS LIST!!!!!
> >Chris
> >Bruno@c...
> >
> I bid $1. Let me know if mine's the highest offer...
> --
> Mike Livsey
I bid $2. Nyah! BTW Mike, will you delete that little quote at the end
of your posts...I'm sick of deleting it anytime I respond to your posts,
hehehe.
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>
> > Really-From: 'Dan J. Schulte'
> >
> >
> > Hell yeah! Finally it is said with precision and truth! There is no
> > bloody Keep cassette! There is no bloody LP! I know just about every
>
> Then what's that *thing* you were holding for Steve in your apartment, next
> to the soundtracks case?
Oh that...hehehe.
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Thank you Lars for a much needed laugh. I'm dreading 'The Keep' thread again.
Thank God for the Polish guy. I've always wondered what that intro was, so the
week wasn't a complete loss....David
N.P. YesYears Disc 3
BTW...Vicky...I'm not sure I would call Billy Sherwood part of the Yes Alumni,
but then again if he played on just one album or during one show....
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Really-From: NAdams43
hi lawry
you could try c&d services on 01382 736702 for the tangerine
ambiance albums,i seem to remember seeing it in one of there catalogues.if
they havent got it in stock they will definately be able to order it for you.i
dont know if you know them but i get most of my music from them they are very
good, if you ever new andy gariboldi from lotus records,he helps to run
it.they havent got an e mail address yet but it is the pipeline so ive been
assured.
regards nick.
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> Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.'
>
>
> Everyone has their favorites...but why would you place GC above Force
> Majuere, Tangram, Underwater Sunlight and Poland?
>
> ::E::
Elias,
it is spelled Majeure
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Hey Dream Surfers,
For those of you who dont have web or ftp access, I saw this advice on the
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> Really-From: DAVENTURA
>
> BTW...Vicky...I'm not sure I would call Billy Sherwood part of the Yes
Alumni,
He is now...it's his second tour and first album as more than a
sideman...Billy's dream come true!
Steve Howe's lookin' pretty scary in his age, so I don't know if the gig's
all that good...reminds me of Dawn of the Dead...
::E::
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Hey Dream Surfers,
For those of you who dont have web or ftp access, I saw this advice on the
goldtri list.
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with
get tadream-digest v16.n001
in the body of the text
I tried going for other volumes (v01, v10) but neither was successful.
Anyone have more details?
Steve
p.s. Sorry about the incomplete message, Cntrl E sends the mail instead of
going to the end of the line. live and learn.
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>
>
>To my employers, if they're eavesdropping on this (I doubt it - they're
>probably still in bed):
>Sorry, but I've installed the NT4 MIDI drivers on my work PC. Work will
never
>be the same again :-))
Those MIDI drivers still depend on the strenth of the soundcard, right? And
if it is a standard 16-bit soundcard, then it has terrible MIDI samples.
May I suggest a software program called WinGroove? It emulates wavetable
synthesis in software and comes with a 512k sample pack. Very good sound
quality.
Morgan
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Subject: Re: The Pink Years CD
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I cannot believe we have the Pink Years CD and Tournado at the local shops
already, but still no Ambient Monkeys or Timesquare. What is the deal???
Morgan
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Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.'
> Really-From: Vincent Goudreault
>
> > Everyone has their favorites...but why would you place GC above Force
> > Majuere, Tangram, Underwater Sunlight and Poland?
>
> Elias,
>
> it is spelled Majeure
[sorry, Vince, typos happen]
::E::
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At 09:43 PM 4/14/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Really-From: 'Dan J. Schulte'
>> Really-From: 'Brian E. Kirby'
>>
>> > On TDI's first promo sheet, the following CDs have been announced:
>> >
>> > Back catalogue
>> > - Optical Race (1988)
>> > - Lily on the beach (1989)
>> > - Dream Mixes Vol. I (2-CD-version by TDI, 1995)
>> > - Melrose (1990)
>> > - Rockoon (1991)
>> > - 220 Volt live (1992)
>> > - Turn of the tides (1993)
>> > - Tyranny of beauty (1994)
>> > - Oasis (1997)
>> > - Tournado - Live in Europe (1997)
>>
>> Alright, I'm opening myself up for some abuse for this (in all
>> probability), but I'm sure as hell hoping that there will be the
>> rumored 'missing tracks' from Melrose that supposedly were cut to get
>> the running time under an hour.
>>
>> -B. Kirby
Didn't this extra material appear on the Private Music of Tangerine Dream?
I have this CD and 3? unreleased tracks are great.
Morgan
feldon@p...
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Was Jerzy Kordowich the same guy who introduced the Warsaw 97 show radio
broadcast?
Scott
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>Really-From: Steve_Whiteley@N... (Steve Whiteley)
>
>Send mail to
>majordomo@c...
>
>with
>get tadream-digest v16.n001
>
>in the body of the text
>
>I tried going for other volumes (v01, v10) but neither was successful.
>Anyone have more details?
Sure. send an
index to *any* majordomo-server and youīll get a
list of all the files you can get by using the 'get ' command
from that majordomo.
In the case of majordomo@c... youīve to send an
index tadream-digest
The result is a list as followed:
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>>>>
That means all digestīs from v15.n279 - v16.n252
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I assume thereīs kinda ring buffer space and as soon as
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PS: the command 'help' helps a lot too ;-)
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> Really-From: feldon@p...
>
>
> I cannot believe we have the Pink Years CD and Tournado at the local
shops
> already, but still no Ambient Monkeys or Timesquare. What is the deal???
It seems like that's how it always works out...we get the *crap* very, very
near to our wallets, and the better stuff always requires a phone call or a
stamp, shipping/postage, etc.
::E::
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>with
>
>get tadream-digest v16.n001
>
>in the body of the text
>
>I tried going for other volumes (v01, v10) but neither was successful.
>Anyone have more details?
Put 'help' in the body instead and the list server will tell you what you
can do. Among other things you can get a list of the files it can give
you. Older archives exist somewhere for ftp,
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On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, tadream mailing list wrote:
> Really-From: mlivsey@n... (Mike Livsey)
>
> >Really-From: Mark Fonda
> >
> >
> >Could someone please explain what TANGENTIZED means?? :-)
> >
> >Mark
> >
> >
> Really cool music....ruined...
> --
> Mike Livsey
In some cases, very much enhanced. I stand firm in my opinion that the
Encore remixes are VASTLY superior to the originals. Just bursting with
colour, life, and energy, like they should have been the first time.
Gabe
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Subject: Fwd: Tasubscribe Undream
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DAVENTURA
Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 4:51
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Subject: Tasubscribe Undream
To: tadream@c...
Thank you Lars for a much needed laugh. I'm dreading 'The Keep' thread again.
Thank God for the Polish guy. I've always wondered what that intro was, so the
week wasn't a complete loss....David
N.P. YesYears Disc 3
BTW...Vicky...I'm not sure I would call Billy Sherwood part of the Yes Alumni,
but then again if he played on just one album or during one show....
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Subject: White Eagle dropout, and other stuff
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Really-From: STEPHEN_OTT@p... ( STEPHEN M OTT)
I don't know who sent in the question regarding their copy of the
White Eagle
cd having some areas where it just drops out, or whatever, but about
8 or 9
years ago I had a conversation with some guy that works for a
company
called' Denon Digital', that supposedly prints the majority of the
cd's in the
U.S. He told me that there are three flavors of cd's...treated, non-
treated,
and gold. He said that gold cd's would last indefinately, that
treated cd's
were good for anywhere between 15 and 25 years, and that non-treated
were
only good for between 10 and 15 years. Anybody with a brain knows
what the
gold cd's look like....the way to determine between treated and non-
treated
is this: on the data surface, near the outer edge, if you can see a
distinct
band that's close to the physical edge of the disk, and separate from
the
data that's written on the disk, then that would be a non-treated
disk, and
good for between 10 to 15 years. The life expectantcy of disks is
determined
by how well the owner takes care of them. They should always be kept
in
the jewel cases when not in the player. They will warp just like
vinyl if you
leave them out. And, it is possible for the coating that's put on
the disks
after the pits are burned into it, to flake off, which is why most
disks these
days are treated after being coated.
Someone else on here was looking for a copy of Luminous Visions...
I happen to have a few copies of the tape & disk set that I'm willing
to
part with for the right trade.
As for all the noise on here about The KEEP....maybe it was released
in
eighty-whenever, maybe not....maybe it was released on cassette,
maybe
not....the point being ?
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Re: Introduction to POLAND
For feldon@p... , Victor Rek and everyone else interested:
In Polish the announcement to this concert is written as follows:
'Dobry wieczór. Polska Agencja Artystyczna PAGART i Panstwowe
Przedsiebiorstwo Imprez Artystycznych IMPART zapraszaja Panstwa na koncert
zespolu, bedacego wspóltwórca gatunku muzyki, okreslanej jako rock
elektroniczny (...) Przed Panstwem Chris Franke, Johannes Schmoelling i
Edgar Froese, czyli Tangerine Dream.'
I do not know how this message will look like on the mailing list without
the Polish letters support software. Sorry for the typos in my first
message. The name of announcer is Kordowicz, not Kordowich and not State...
PASGART, but Polish ... PAGART. I did this message just after wake-up, still
brain-dead (BTW, Victor, Kordowicz is the same guy that cut into 'The Dream
Congress' and Scott Pummer - he did the announcement to radio show).
Marek the Alienist
Favourite ones:
The best studio one: 'Rubycon' and the second: 'Stratosfear'
The best concert one: 'Pergamon' and the second: '220 Volt'
The best soundtrack: 'Thief' (and who knows - maybe 'The Keep'. I do not
know it yet)
The best piece: 'Cloudburst Flight' (way, way too short!)
The best boot: 'Patrolling Space Borders' (much better than 'Encore IMHO)
The biggest flop: 'Zeit'
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Subject: Exit (was RE: POLAND)
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Really-From: PENFOLD
I have the english translation of the lyrics.
I would like to see the transliterated Russian
even in Cyrrilic too would be cool to LPT and hang on the corkboard
Pete
mailto:penfold@a...
'We throw each piece of equipment three times out of the third floor of our
studio complex. If it's still functioning properly, we'll take it on the
road. If not, we send it back to Tokyo!...'
-- Edgar Froese (founder of Tangerine Dream), on the easy way TD decides
on which instruments to take on the road.
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Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 6:59
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Subject: Kiew Mission
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Really-From: szatmari pal
Pete Penfold (I guess that is your last name) posted the lyrics of
Kiew mission on the list a short while ago. Even though the notes
say that it was translated by Irina Lazakova (probably a Russian
woman) I have some things to add (for those who might be
interested):
>Continents:
>Asia, Africa, Europe, Australia, America
>This is the world
The last word here is Earth not world ( which is almost the same)
>Past time
>Present time
>Future time
>Peace, this is peace
Now, the Russian word 'Mir' has two meanings: 'Peace' and 'World'
and I think 'World' is more appropriate here
>To be understood
To understand
To underst... (uncomplete)
>To ask
>To answer
>To talk
>To contemplate
>To guess not knowing
>Transfer
I do not now how 'transfer' got in here. The word is 'Task'
>To associate with friends
>To exchange opinions
>Borderlessness
>Reasonable living
>Talk
>Conversation
'Conversation in the sphere' is the complete line
[...]
>translated from the Russian by Irina Lazakova. excerpt courtesy of
>Alan V Michaels' out-of-print book;
>_The_Dream_Lives_On!:_The_Unofficial_Collector's_Guide_To_The_
>Music_Of
>_Tangerine_Dream_
This track was my very first exposure to TD in 1982 (along with
the 5 others on the album) and it resonated in me. So that is why it
is so special to me.
Paul
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Subject: RE: keep cd
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Nice Try...but I don't think so......
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Really-From: 'Dave Lane'
KRAUSENECKS wrote:
> [...] By the if someone can show me photographic proof of the so called
> KEEP lp I will pay $100.00. So there Mr. Feldman!
> PLEASE EMAIL ME PRIVATELY OR YOU WILL BECOME THE SCURGE OF THIS =
> LIST!!!!!
How's this for proof?
http://members.tripod.com/~Beige/keepstrk.gif
--Dave the 'scurge'
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Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 8:29
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>gold cd's look like....the way to determine between treated and
non-
>treated is this: on the data surface, near the outer edge, if
you can see a
>distinct band that's close to the physical edge of the disk,
and separate from
>the data that's written on the disk, then that would be a
non-treated
OK, let me see if I understand: I'm looking at a CD, at the
underside (Non-printed). At the edge is a band that's absolutely
mirror-like. It's about 2mm wide, then the data surface (less
mirror-like) begins as you go toward the center of the disc. Is it
coated?
Scott
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In a message dated 98-04-16 15:31:15 EDT, you write:
<< The biggest flop: 'Zeit' >>
Hey! I like Zeit. Especially 'Nebulous Dawn'.
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Eman writes
> Steve Howe's lookin' pretty scary in his age....
Yeah, you seen Baumann lately? Steve Howe is still my guitar hero and I
really don't care how he looks. As long as he can still outplay all or most
other guitarists on the planet, I'll keep buying tickets....David
N.P... Steve Howe..Turbulence
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Subject: Re: An Eyewitness to the 1984 THE KEEP Cassette
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Really-From: Michael Fox
At 01:30 PM 4/15/98 EDT, you wrote:
> I just found the following two posts in the guestbook at the TDI
>website. Poor bastard, this Sutekh:
So....when are you two getting married?;-)
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Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 8:48
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Subject: Re: white eagle cd
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Really-From: Antonio Nunes
Meshy wrote:
> I got out my old WE cd t'nite, and noticed it was dropping out all over the
> place (kinda like pausing it for a half sec. or less and then unpausing
> it-)
>
> this is the first disc I've noticed this with. It is the old virgin cd (I
> bought this cd in 89), anyone else notice this with old td cd's?
>
> I know my WE, and logos has pinholes (hold up one of these data side facing
> you
> to a bright light and you'll see what I mean.), so this may be the problem.
> my 'main' cd player is over 10 years old so it may not have good error
> correction either.
I have a copy of the same edition, bought almost 10 years ago, it also
has pinholes and even a few scratches, but it plays perfectly in my 7
years old Marantz CD player. So perhaps the problem is in your CD
player. Try a laser lens cleaning kit.
Antonio
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Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 9:14
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Subject: Re: keep cd
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I don't care at all about the existence or non-existence of The Keep LP,
but aparently Steven is not the only 'believer'. Look at the track
listing of Electronic Orgy disc 2:
12. 1983 - Fisherman's Morning (The Keep, Virgin promo LP)
13. 1983 - Romanian Road (The Keep, Virgin promo LP)
14. 1983 - Sailing Mission (The Keep, Virgin promo LP)
15. 1983 - Gloria (The Keep, Virgin promo LP)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
But Edgar says you can't believe in what is printed on bootlegs...
Antonio
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Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 4:38
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Subject: Went shopping
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Really-From: Michael Fox
Hi Cats and Kitties!
I stopped at a CD store in an outlet mall here this morn and found a few TD
goodies cheap. I picked up 'The Collection' for 7 bucks, 'Book of Dreams'
for 12, and a CD called 'Shepherds Bush' with Elinor Rigby and Thief
Yang... on it (says limited edition #1118 of 2000) for--get this--2
dollars! They also had 'The Analog Space Years' (with poster) for 20
dollars--I passed on that one.
Mike
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Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 8:49
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Subject: ATTN:Dave Datta Re: Incest Website at www.trueincest.com
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Really-From: 'Lawry Simm'
Any way that we can keep shit like this from flooding the list?
Next thing we'll be heading the way of newsgroups like
rec.old-ladies.knitting which get spammed with bollocks
like child porn etc. This shit really pisses me off. How am
I supposed to download my knitting patterns with pictures
of bollocks everywhere?
Sorry... just got a bit fired up
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Subject: RE: Tangerine Ambience II
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Really-From: 'Lawry Simm'
>>>Really-From: 'Lawry Simm'
>>>I've never seen either of the TA CD's over in the UK, but I've been dying
to
>>>buy them. Does anyone know whether they made it here, and if so, where
>>>I can get them from? Failing that, any european suppliers? I'm fed up
>>>being stiffed for import duty from the US for CD's, so I'd rather not
have
>>>to buy them from there.
> Check out: http://mcs.nl/groove/catalog.html
> Kees
Damn... I bought stuff from Groove at Alpha Centauri.... I never saw that
one.
Anyway.. I was all spent up after buying Marcel's CD's anyway. (Amongst
others)
:-)
Lawry
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Loved reading those guestbook entries....
Steven, I'm with you in spirit on your quest. I'll be laughing my
nuts off with you when you do find one with a (C) 1984 on!
Lawry
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>> TDI has only issued the pre-release series of 150 copies
Honestly? Only 150? Damn.... wish I'd bought a few more.
:-(
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> Really-From: DAVENTURA
>
> Eman writes
> > Steve Howe's lookin' pretty scary in his age....
>
> Yeah, you seen Baumann lately? Steve Howe is still my guitar hero and I
^^^^^^^^^^
Hey, man, don't scare me! And you might ruin Dan's aperture, I mean,
appetite...
> really don't care how he looks. As long as he can still outplay all or
most
> other guitarists on the planet, I'll keep buying tickets....David
>
> N.P... Steve Howe..Turbulence
^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is one helluva album...loved it when I got it back in '89...
::E::
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> Steven, I'm with you in spirit on your quest. I'll be laughing my
> nuts off with you when you do find one with a (C) 1984 on!
Yes, but when he does find it, it'll probably have a Flock of Seagulls
record inside. This is X-Files Lesson #1: the truth might be out there,
but you'll never be able to prove it.
SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator
T O P I X / Mad Dog
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Re: Kiew Mission lyrics in Russian
Pete penfold@a... wrote:
'I have the english translation of the lyrics.
I would like to see the transliterated Russian, even in Cyrrilic too would
be cool to LPT and hang on the corkboard.'
Continents:
Asia, Africa, Europe, Australia, America
This is the world
Past time
Present time
Future time
Peace, this is peace
To be understood
To ask
To answer
To talk
To contemplate
To guess not knowing
Transfer
To associate with friends
To exchange opinions
Borderlessness
Reasonable living
Talk
Conversation
So, it's apparently time for the indomitable Slav to strike again.
Without the Cyrrylic support software the server would spill out just
rubbish. So, I will do it roughly according to English transliteration
customs. As You hear on the record, the text should be spoken as softly as
one could - hence so much 'iy' and 'sch'. But here a surprise: I suspect
that the lady singing (does anyone know who that was?) is not native Russian
speaker; her pronounciation is way too rough.
Kyyevskaya Missiya (that would be the title in English)
Kontiyniyenty: Assiya, Afriyka, Yevropa, Avstraliya, Amyerika - eeto
Zyiemliya.
Prashschedschchiya wriyemiya,
nastoiyaschchaiya wriyemiya,
boodooschchaiya wriemya.
Mir - eeto Mir.
Ponimat', doomat', spraschiyvat', atvetchat', gavarit', zadoomyvat'sa
Dadoomyvat'siya niye znaiya.
Piyeredachiya
Abschchatsiya s drooziyami
Pamiyeniyatsiya imiyeniyami
Biyezgraniytschnost'
Sooschchyestvo razoomnoiye
Rasgavoor
Biyesiyeda
Kontiyniyenty: Assiya, Afriyka, Yevropa, Avstraliya, Amyerika - eeto
Zyiemliya.
Single 'Y' (not after 'I') should be read shortly, as in 'rythm'.
'Mir' could be translated as 'peace', but also as 'world'.
Pal Szatmari in his message is wrong in one place. The word translated as
'transfer' is in original version 'pieriedach'a'. The translation is
therefore more or less correct; it may mean even better 'broadcast', as in
'radio broadcast'. Surely not 'task' - 'zadach'a'
One more remark: as the singer was not probably Russian, her words are
sometimes heavily garbled.
Marek the Alienist
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Antonio writes:
> Try a laser lens cleaning kit.
Umm, yeah I didn't want to point out the obvious either. I have a little Sony
bookshelf system. Every 2 years or so, my CD's start skipping or play a few
seconds then go back to the beginning or even part of the last track. I have
to take the back off and clean the laser. I just take a Q-Tip and swish it
around the pickup. Decidedly low-tech, but it works for me. I never went in
for head cleaners or lens cleaners, but I did buy a DiscWasher. Now if I
could only get a working record player. In fact, it started doing it just as
I popped in EO for the first time. Thought I had gotten a bad set. Boy, was
I glad it was just a dirty lens. Just a thought....David
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Subject: More Steve Howe
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Eman writes:
N.P. ..Steve Howe..Turbulence
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
> This is one helluva album...loved it when I got it back in '89...
>
> ::E::
>
That's funny, it was released in '91...Hmm....David
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Subject: Re: POLAND
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At 10:42 AM 4/16/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Yes Marek, I can help you, and BTW your package was mailed today :-)
>Thanks for the great post!
>Vic
Yes, Marek, what Vic said! Thanks for posting the info!
Mike
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Subject: Guestbook Welcome to the Reference.com tadream Archives
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Well, for better or worse, below is what I just posted to the TDI
website's Guestbook:
-- Steven Feldman
+ + + + + + +
From Steven Feldman at Fri, 17/Apr/98 01:15:
GREAT NEWS: THE COMPUTER INTERNET MAILING LIST tadream@c...
--which has been going strong for some eight years now--is now
accessible via the World Wide Web! The day's current messages are
there, as are archives for as long as four months ago. Even if you
don't have e-mail, you can read each and every thing that has been
said there. The URL to go to is
http://www.reference.com/cgi-bin/pn/listarch?list=tadream@c...
Once you've arrived at the reference.com site, there are three main
choices: 'Browse Archives,' 'Login,' and 'Post.' The first of these
takes you immediately to the most recent messages (a/k/a 'posts') that
have been processed into reference.com's system (the time-lag between
their actual posting and their showing up at the reference.com site is
pretty short).
If you want to 'Post' (i.e. send a message) to the mailing list, you
must first 'Login.' By this, I mean you must register with the site
reference.com. This is no big deal, but there is one catch: you must
have an e-mail address.
Don't have an e-mail address? There is a FREE and easy place to get one:
http://www.hotmail.com
will let anyone who fills out their (admittedly lengthy) questionnaire)
have a free e-mail account. These Hotmail accounts have a lot of frills,
too, if you get handy with the system. For example, the system allows
you 'quote text' (reply point-for-point to specific passages of text
from a letter you're replying to) and to save mail messages in various
custom notebooks. A word to the wise, though, so that no one ruins a
good thing: if you get a Hotmail account, DO NOT subscribe to any mailing
lists from your hotmail account unless absolutely necessary since it ties
up resources and might one day become the straw that breaks' Hotmail's
back. INSTEAD: after you've gotten your free Hotmail e-mail account, go
the Reference.com website's Tangerine Dream mailing list page, which is at
http://www.reference.com/cgi-bin/pn/listarch?list=tadream@c...
and 'Login' with Reference.com
After registering with Hotmail, registering with Reference.com is a breeze:
short, simple, and easy. The system will require you to confirm your
registration by receiving and replying to a message via your Hotmail e-mail
account, and you'll be off and running: able to post messages to the
tadream@c...
Internet computer mailing list anytime you want.
A lot of really terrific stuff is posted to the tadream list (and some
not-so-great stuff, too). I'm sure I speak for everyone there when I say,
'Welcome aboard!'
I don't mean to deter anyone from leaving messages in the TDI website's
Guestbook, I just want to alert you to the fact that there is a forum
where knowledgable long-time TD fans share information, discuss various
topics (sometimes at length), compare discographical information, and
so on. I've been a subscriber to the tadream list for over seven years,
and I've loved every minute of it. Don't be shy. Sign up with Hotmail
and Reference.com and you'll be off and running. Once again, the websites are
http://www.hotmail.com
and
http://www.reference.com/cgi-bin/pn/listarch?list=tadream@c...
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Subject: Steve's Salespitch for Hotmail
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OK, I think that will beat Vicky's poem for longest post to the Guestbook. I
have one question though. How would one access anything on the Web without an
ISP, and don't ISP's provide Email? Just wondering....David
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> Really-From: DAVENTURA
>
> N.P. ..Steve Howe..Turbulence
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > This is one helluva album...loved it when I got it back in '89...
> >
> > ::E::
> >
> That's funny, it was released in '91...Hmm....David
OOPS!!!!!!
::E::
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> Really-From: Steven Feldman
>
>
> Well, for better or worse, below is what I just posted to the TDI
> website's Guestbook:
I bet all the digest-subbers love you ;-)
::E::
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In a message dated 98-04-14 09:49:37 EDT, you write:
<< Am I the only person here that _actually prefers_ some of the
Tangents stuff to the original?
Lawry
>>
I like Tangents a lot. I really believe if this music had been put out
singly rather than a price daunting 5CD album, that more new people would be
converted to TD music. This smooths some of the edges nicely, adds some
melody, cuts the time consuming parts down to manageable bits. It took me a
long time to appreciate Phaedra and I am glad I heard later music first like
Exit. Once you become familiar with the music, your curiousity compels you to
buy the originals; then they begin to sound familiar and comfortable even
though different. I absolutely hated Zeit until I heard Book of Dreams which
added a bass (thank you, Daventura) that tied the sounds together better, but
then made me want to re-buy the original. I still don't play Zeit that often,
but at least now I can understand it and how innovative it was. Dell
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At 04:23 PM 4/16/1998 EDT, TangerineC wrote:
>
>
>In a message dated 98-04-16 15:31:15 EDT, you write:
>
><< The biggest flop: 'Zeit' >>
>
>Hey! I like Zeit. Especially 'Nebulous Dawn'.
Would you like to lay down on that couch over here and tell me all about it?
Andrew
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oh sometimes the years all fuse together
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I also like 'ZEIT'
you can't dance to it though...
Take it out on a clear night....crank it up....and watch the stars go by.
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Subject: missing digest #251
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My computer decided to eat digest #251 before I had a chance to read it,
could someone one digest mode be kind enough to mail me a copy?
-Thanks
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Really-From: 'jowers'
I'd sure hate to see you if you really wanted to be offensive.... Oh, by
the way, my ears are fine. (Thanks for asking.:) I deserved that one!!!
Kevin
ps. Still.... Thanks for the translate though!
> BTW: I don't want to be offensive, but it's for the asker: German
language
> is completly different from Polish. They are not even in the same
language
> group: Polish is Slavic and German is... of course, Germanic. With the
ear
> like that, how can You listen to music?
> It reminds me the joke about the first grade of musical education: it is
> when one knows that the music is played.
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Subject: 'At Darwin's Motel'
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Really-From: Aured Azhallein Rancuel
I remembered reading some speculation on the language used
on 'At Darwin's Motel' and thought I'd add some info...
A polish exchange student is staying with my family for the year
and while listening to Goblin's Club he broke out laughing during
At Darwin's Motel, he then asked me if I knew what language it was,
I told him about the speculations, Japenese/nonsense/etc anyhow he
then told me that it sounded polish, here's a >>rough<< translation
'poorness, more I will not have, (repeated) went
I will not have more, poorness, went, went, poorness, I will not have
more' anyhow, he said the pronounciation is a bit weird(plus too much
background music) so he isn't 100% sure, would any Polish list members
like to comment on this? He does say that he's quite sure about
'poorness' and 'went'.
-Scott
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At 12:21 AM 4/17/1998 EDT, SRiser wrote:
>I also like 'ZEIT'
>you can't dance to it though...
>Take it out on a clear night....crank it up....and watch the stars go by.
That's it. I am dragging out 'Zeit' tonight and listen to it again. Maybe
in 15 years (last time I listened to it) my tastes have changed.
But if I end up feeling like killing myself, like last time I heard it, and
do it, it's on y'all's heads.
Andrew
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Subject: Re: Tangentize My Brain =:-@
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Really-From: 'Greg Heil'
> Really-From: Gabe Yedid
>
>
> On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, tadream mailing list wrote:
>
> > Really-From: mlivsey@n... (Mike Livsey)
> >
> > >Really-From: Mark Fonda
> > >
> > >
> > >Could someone please explain what TANGENTIZED means?? :-)
> > >
> > >Mark
> > >
> > >
> > Really cool music....ruined...
> > --
> > Mike Livsey
>
> In some cases, very much enhanced. I stand firm in my opinion that the
> Encore remixes are VASTLY superior to the originals. Just bursting with
> colour, life, and energy, like they should have been the first time.
>
> Gabe
I find that hard to believe about 'Encore'!
Part of the album's greatness stems from it's
innovative and unusual use of analog electronic
instruments. There is no chance that there
would be a remix of 'Coldwater Canyon'.. I'm
not sure that guitar improv could ever be
duplicated!
When was this 'Tangentized' set released?
Greg H.
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Subject: Help!!! Where can I buy import Cd's for my business?No TD
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Hi. Where can I buy import Cd's for my business for the best prices? If anyone
knows,can you supply me with some cd import distributors? Thanks in advance.
Tom TangerineC@a...
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Really-From: Michal Balcerzak
>Was Jerzy Kordowich the same guy who introduced the Warsaw 97 show radio
>broadcast?
>
Yes, he was. But his name is Jerzy Kordowicz.
Michal
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Subject: Re: New vs. Old
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Really-From: Colin Knowles
> Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.'
>
> > Really-From: Colin Knowles
> >
> > IMHO GC is *the* best TD (save DM maybe) ever...
> >
> > Colin not wanting to re-start the '90's stuff is crap!' thread but
> fearing it may
> > be just too late...
>
> Everyone has their favorites...but why would you place GC above Force
> Majuere, Tangram, Underwater Sunlight and Poland?
>
> ::E::
Easy!
More life, ie more energy..ie when you listen to GC you (well OK, I!) want to
get
up and
dance (well, tap a foot maybe!), whereas those you've mentioned (apart from
Tangram which
I haven't heard, and a couple of tracks off FM), good as they are, like US
espec.,
just make me
want to fall asleep!
I'll admit that I use GC, DM and strangely enough LotB, as work music so maybe
that has something to do with it, I'll not sure.
What makes a good album is a strange thing and one little understood (at least
by
me!). Maybe
other people want slow down/go to sleep music. I like (on the whole! I wouldn't
call some of
JMJ's stuff the most scintillating music ever! wide awake and keep you there
music. Whilst there
are occasional tracks from the early albums that fit this view, as far as a
*whole
album* goes non
comes closer than GC, save DM as I've already mentioned.
You did ask!
Colin
n.p. 'The Sentinal' - Pallas
'The children weep, they are a crying,
For their Ma, she is a frying.' --'Ode to a witch' KSC '98
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Subject: Macula Transfer - two versions?
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I just received a catalogue that says there are two new releases of Macula
Transfer; the original album on CD via Mannikin Records (Germany), and also
Virgin have released a version - allegedly remixed and remastered by Tangerine
Dream.
Anyone know what the differences are? Is it worth getting both?
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Subject: Yes
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'Elias Granillo, Jr.' wrote:
>He is now...it's his second tour and first album as more than a
>sideman...Billy's dream come true!
>Steve Howe's lookin' pretty scary in his age, so I don't know if the gig's
>all that good...reminds me of Dawn of the Dead...
>
I saw 'YES' in concert last year on the opening day of their tour.
Admittedly, Steve is looking a little weathered but he has NOT lost the
fire and dexterity of his guitar playing. Believe me, he was awesome that
night. Wakeman was the only thing missing.
>::E::
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>Asia, Africa, Europe, Australia, America
>This is the world
What about Antarctica?
Scott
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Really-From: Peter.Stoeferle@t... (Peter Stoeferle)
Sorry, Mark, and hello Tadreamers,
> Really-From: Mark Fonda
>
> Peter, I subscribe to Dream Collector and I was looking for facts, not
> speculation... although opinions are always welcome here.
I did *not* mention you as the one dealing with speculations about fortchoming
releases. As a 'Dream Collector' subscriber, you have already been up to date
two months before I posted the article about the fortchoming 25 CDs to this
Mailing List.
> You and others provided us with the following facts which were either not
> available for the last issue of DC or were not included for some reason:
>
> > Right now, the Tadream Production office and the studio are in one
> > building in Berlin. With the TDI activities, they need more room for the
> > office, and thus the studio has to move to another place.
O.k., we did not mention the reason (room for office) in 'Dream Collector', but
we mentioned that TD are moving their studio in the 'No US-tour ahead' article
on page 1 of issue #21 of February, 16th.
> > TDI are due to release Schmoellings 'Zoo Of Tranquility'.
Actually, this is not new, even if it may seem so to some people on this List.
Thus I did not mention this in DC #21. We have already printed this news in DC
#16 in March 1997 (!).
> Would TDI (or Dream Collector) prefer that we ask them these questions
> directly, or can we just continue to use this mailing list as a resource for
> getting information and working out things without bugging the artists or
> their office staff? Besides, if TD was not so elusive about their music and
> their music-related news we wouldn't have to be in the dark.
Of course everyone on this List may discuss everything and speculate about
everything. This List has quite another concept than 'Dream Collector' or the
official Home Page have, and the result is that discussions turn into other
directions than they would do in DC or in TD's guestbook. This sometimes
uncovers interesting and humorous aspects, sometimes not. It is up to the
subscribers of this List whether they like the way of these discussions or not.
'Dream Collector' does not want to regulate any of the discussions on this
List, nor do I personally want to do so.
When sending the 'Put an end to TD 'speculations'' mail to this List, I did not
want to stop any discussion or to prevent people from 'using this List as a
resource for getting information.' A lot of *wrong* points have been mentioned
here regarding the forthcoming releases, and the only thing I wanted to do was
to tell some facts that could turn the discussion from speculations into a more
realistic direction.
You can of course always ask questions to 'Dream Collector' directly. (I cannot
speak for TDI here.) Even if we cannot answer all inquiries personally, we will
provide and distribute all news that is worth to be brought to TD collectors'
attention in our newsletter. We have been doing so for almost six years now and
we have not got the impression that our readers have missed any important news
in that time, but we a sure they have got a lot of information that was
unavailable elsewhere.
> I appreciate the facts that were presented... but what do you consider
> serious information?
Serious means reliable. 'Reliable' can be from the band's office, from record
companies or from any person that has information which can be proved.
'Reliable' can also mean from fans and collectors who have good sources.
> I am very interested in who the current band members are
Edgar and Jerome Froese. All other personell that has appeared recently, Emil
Hachfeld and Zlatko Perica during the U.K. tour in autumn, were guests.
> what new releases will be issued this year, etc.
Hopefully a big part of the 25... To deal 'serious': The list of releases has
not yet been released. But we all hope it will be long... ;-)
Regarding releases, someone on this List mentioned that TDI releases such as
'Ambient Monkeys', 'Dream Mixes II - Time Square' already *are* available. This
is true, regarding the sales during the U.K. tour. But the 'Dream Collector'
article mailed to this List referred to the plans for official and *worldwide*
releases, issued and distributed by TDI or by partner companies.
> Just let us have our little discussions and you can stick to 'just the facts'
> in Dream Collector and we'll all be just fine. :-)
This is a good idea for a division of labour... ;-) I hope you enjoy both
variations.
Greetings,
Peter
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Really-From: Vic Rek
> Really-From: 'Marek Mastalerz'
> Re: Kiew Mission lyrics in Russian
Well, I'll be in Kiev (another mission) within 9 days for a little
holiday and I'll stop over in Warsaw for a day (Apr. 29-30). Will anyone
on this list be hanging around Warsaw at this time? Marek?
Anyone looking for some pirate releases from Ukraine? I hear they are
starting to 'crack' down on this now.
Vic
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Subject: Re: Tangentize My Brain =:-@
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On Fri, 17 Apr 1998, tadream mailing list wrote:
> Really-From: 'Greg Heil'
> > Really-From: Gabe Yedid
> >
> > In some cases, very much enhanced. I stand firm in my opinion that the
> > Encore remixes are VASTLY superior to the originals. Just bursting with
> > colour, life, and energy, like they should have been the first time.
> >
> > Gabe
>
> I find that hard to believe about 'Encore'!
> Part of the album's greatness stems from it's
> innovative and unusual use of analog electronic
> instruments. There is no chance that there
> would be a remix of 'Coldwater Canyon'.. I'm
> not sure that guitar improv could ever be
> duplicated!
> When was this 'Tangentized' set released?
Um, in 1994, with the rest of _Tangents_...
Seriously, I have always thought that _Encore_ is one of TD's two most
overrated albums, _Logos_ being the other. I don't particularly care for
'Coldwater Canyon', as I've already said (it annoys me), and that guitar
solo is really a little dated and 'psychedelic' sounding to me.
'Patrolling Space Borders' is a much better, more dynamic example of that
tour.
I prefer the guitar sounds used on _Thief_, and the one Edgar cultivated in
the early-mid '80s. And of course, there's the 220 Volt version of 'Hamlet'
(other live versions I've heard are not as good IMO).
Yeah, I'm really asking for it this week aren't I?
>
> Greg H.
>
Gabe
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Subject: Re: Yes
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Really-From: SRiser3600
Hey it could be worse...
Steve at least looks better that Keith Richards
and is a more inspiring guitar player
just put a bag on your head and listen to the music.
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Subject: Re: Steve Howe
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Really-From: thesmitter@j... (Larry E Smith)
Steve Howe needs to eat some meat. First thing I though of when I saw him
was the end scene of the movie Bettlejuice.
>> Steve Howe's lookin' pretty scary in his age....
>
>Yeah, you seen Baumann lately? Steve Howe is still my guitar hero and
>I
>really don't care how he looks. As long as he can still outplay all or
>most
>other guitarists on the planet, I'll keep buying tickets....David
>
>N.P... Steve Howe..Turbulence
>
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>I also like 'ZEIT'
>you can't dance to it though...
Sure you can dance to it! You just have to dance reeeeeal
slooooooow. :-) Actually, I kinda like it too. It has its place.
Scott
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Really-From: 'Marcel Engels'
>Really-From: Gabe Yedid
>
>Um, in 1994, with the rest of _Tangents_...
>Seriously, I have always thought that _Encore_ is one of TD's two most
>overrated albums, _Logos_ being the other.
And I find those 2 to be their best live-albums. (well ricochet and poland
are
very good too)
>
>I prefer the guitar sounds used on _Thief_, and the one Edgar cultivated in
>the early-mid '80s. And of course, there's the 220 Volt version of
'Hamlet'
>(other live versions I've heard are not as good IMO).
Hamlet is one of the best tracks of 220V! To me, it sounds a bit like old
times,
so thats why I probably like it.
Marcel
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Subject: Free E-mail Services Other Than Hotmail
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Really-From: Steven Feldman
>Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:31:54 EDT
>Subject: Re: Steve's Salespitch for Hotmail
>From: tadream mailing list
>Really-From: DAVENTURA
>
>[. . .] How would one access anything on the Web without an
>ISP, and don't ISP's provide Email? Just wondering....David
What does 'ISP' mean? Is it 'Internet Service Provider' (I don't
remember.) Anyways, ISPs -- or Netscape -- might well provide for the
ability to e-mail, but I'm not so sure that they provide e-mail accounts.
Hotmail is good in that it not only gives you an account from which
you get quote text in mail replies, but f**kloads of storage space where
you can file away all manner of old e-mail messages in different
customized notebooks. Somehow, I don't think an ISP would provide all
of that.
I don't mean to hype Hotmail, it's just that it's the only free
e-mail service on the web that I knew of when I made the post. I just
did a Metacrawler search on 'free e-mail' as a phrase and found a lot
of others, such as Juno, Net@d..., and The Free Site. The latter,
at , has a page called 'General
Purposes Free E-mail Services
that lists about a dozen of them.
Now then, how does one quote text if one reads the archives from
the tadream list from the reference.com site?????
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Subject: 1984 KEEP Witnesses: Stand Up and Be Counted!
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Really-From: Steven Feldman
As I said fairly recently, it is remarkable that out of all of
TD's unofficial output, only one item has consistently been mentioned
as being seen. Heck, more people claim to have seen the 1984 KEEP LP
than have seen the RISKY BUSINESS AUDIO SOUNDKIT (as well they should,
since only about 50 copies of the soundkit were made and about 300
copies of the KEEP LP slipped out before the factory re-call). Just
to show how many of us here on this list have seen this LP, I suggest
that we 'stand up and be counted,' so to speak. Make the header of
your post 'ENTRY: 1984 KEEP Album Witness Registry'
>Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 20:42:25 -0700
>Subject: Re: An Eyewitness to the 1984 THE KEEP Cassette
>FRom: tadream mailing list
>Really-From: Dan J. Schulte
>[re Marcel Engels's tirade about not believing in the 1984 KEEP album]
>Hell yeah! Finally it is said with precision and truth! There is no
>bloody Keep cassette! There is no bloody LP! I know just about every
>hardcore soundtrack collector worth knowing and not ONE of them owns
>this release, in any form!! [. . .]
Yeah, right, Mr.-I-Can-Get-Any-and-All-Soundtracks-Because-I-Work
for-Supercollector-Which-is-Omnipotent-in-the-Realm-of-All-That-Is-
Soundtrack-Related. How is it, then, that you couldn't obtain the
Japanese KEEP laserdisk whereas at least one person on this list (I
think it was Jeffrey Au-Yeung) said they could get it no sweat? As for
those 'hardcore soundtrack collector[s] worth knowing,' do me a favor:
when I finally get proof of the 1984 KEEP LP, tell them that they can
stuff their little inflated egos where the sun don't shine.
>[. . .] Marcel's right!! Don't any of you morons seeing this release
>carry more than $15 bucks around with you!! Sheesh!!
As an addendum, I just remembered: I routinely did not carry over
$15.00 with me at the time because downtown Providence and the area that
the store I saw the 1984 KEEP LP is sorta skeezy and I didn't want to
be robbed . . . because as a dishwasher, I couldn't afford to be.
I could've bought QUINOA when it came out but didn't have the $.
I could've bought the 1st KLEM CD when it came out but didn't have
the money. What in the hell is so hard-to-understand about that?!?!?!
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Really-From: Gabe Yedid
On Fri, 17 Apr 1998, tadream mailing list wrote:
> Really-From: 'Marcel Engels'
>
>
> >Really-From: Gabe Yedid
> >
> >Um, in 1994, with the rest of _Tangents_...
> >Seriously, I have always thought that _Encore_ is one of TD's two most
> >overrated albums, _Logos_ being the other.
>
> And I find those 2 to be their best live-albums. (well ricochet and poland
> are
> very good too)
As far as the live albums go, I think _Poland_ is pretty much tops in my
books.
> >
> >I prefer the guitar sounds used on _Thief_, and the one Edgar cultivated in
> >the early-mid '80s. And of course, there's the 220 Volt version of
> 'Hamlet'
> >(other live versions I've heard are not as good IMO).
>
> Hamlet is one of the best tracks of 220V! To me, it sounds a bit like old
> times,
> so thats why I probably like it.
Well there you go Marcel, finally something we agree on! ;)
I have heard from a couple of people, though, that the 200V version is a
studio re-make. I have heard the versions from Ventura '92, and London
'96, neither of which are as good as the version on the official
release. The Ventura version in particular is much less cohesive, less
disciplined, and less in time with the synth backing.
> Marcel
Gabe
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Subject: ENTRY: 1984 KEEP Album Witness Registry
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I held a copy of the 1984 KEEP LP in my hands the day it arrived
new in a local record store but couldn't afford to buy it. It sold
before I could return for it, money in hand.
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Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 5:26
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Subject: Re: ATTN:Dave Datta
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Really-From: David Datta
In article <6h5vti$1vv$1@n...> you wrote:
: Really-From: 'Lawry Simm'
: Any way that we can keep shit like this from flooding the list?
I have a very long list of things that get filtered from the list,
As new spams appear, I add them to the filter list. We have actually
been doing quite well on that front.
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Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 5:39
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Subject: RE:
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Really-From: Tom Gerardy
>Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott'
> >Asia, Africa, Europe, Australia, America
> >This is the world
>
> What about Antarctica?
>
> Scott
Obvious, its outta this world!
(Sorry)--tom
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Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 5:29
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Subject: ENTRY: 1984 KEEP Witness Registry
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Really-From: 'Jens Peschke'
>Really-From: Steven Feldman
>Make the header of your post 'ENTRY: 1984 KEEP Album Witness Registry'
Steven, your KEEP postings pissed me off BIGTIMES.
What about setting up your own mailing list ?
The ultimative 'Steven *Da Keep keeps in my brain - PLEASE HELP* Feldman' list
, eh ?
> Yeah, right, Mr.-I-Can-Get-Any-and-All-Soundtracks-Because-I-Work
>for-Supercollector-Which-is-Omnipotent-in-the-Realm-of-All-That-Is-
>Soundtrack-Related....
Cool, Steven. more on these. :-(
However, Iīll unsubscribe for a while.
Bye
Jens
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Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 8:05
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Subject: Re: A few incoherent remarks
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Really-From: 'Marek Mastalerz'
1. Vic Rek wrote that he is interested in taped regordings from Warsaw '83
shows. Well, both shows were recorded. The first tape is of purportedly poor
quality. The second show was recorded adequately enough for Jerzy Kordowicz
to present it in two parts a few weeks after concert. (No, I do not have
those tapes.)
2. I am going abroad for some time, but before that - a parting shot.
My other favourite gropu is Pink Floyd. The affinity of early TD for PF is a
subject flogged to death, so i won'g into anymore. But:
a. Both groups played at least once at tha same place and time: during
Ossiah Festival, 1th July 1971. Recently a Japanese (and vvery rare) bootleg
of that Pink Floyd gig surfaced: 'Cosmic Music'. We Dreamers have from this
festival 'Oszillator Plancet Concert'. I forgot to give it a nomination for
the worst piece: in comparison to it 'Zeit' is exemplary easy listening.
BTW, as for 'Zeit' being dance stuff - maybe for catatonics, huh?
b. One thing irritates me very much. It I something I cannot forgive bearded
Eddie. Listen closely to first three minutes of title track of 'Shy People'
and then to opening of 'Shine On You Crazy Diamond' by PF. Could You comment
on foul suspicions of plagiarism, Mr Froese?
But seriously, for all those wanting to broaden their horizons, listen to
'Ummagumma' - if You do not know it Yet.
So, for now, fellow Dreamers
Marek
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Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 8:09
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Really-From: 'Marek Mastalerz'
Re: A few incoherent remarks
1. Vic Rek wrote that he is interested in taped regordings from Warsaw '83
shows. Well, both shows were recorded. The first tape is of purportedly poor
quality. The second show was recorded adequately enough for Jerzy Kordowicz
to present it in two parts a few weeks after concert. I do not know how he
did it; maybe he just was not concerned with legal niceties. (No, I do not
have those tapes.)
2. I am going tomorrow abroad for some time (be back at the end of the
month), but before that - a parting shot. My other favourite group is Pink
Floyd. The affinity of early TD for PF is a
subject flogged to death, so i won'g into anymore. But:
a. Both groups played at least once at tha same place and time: during
Ossiah Festival, 1th July 1971. Recently a Japanese (and vvery rare) bootleg
of that Pink Floyd gig surfaced: 'Cosmic Music'. We Dreamers have from this
festival 'Oszillator Plancet Concert'. I forgot to give it a nomination for
the worst piece: in comparison to it 'Zeit' is exemplary easy listening.
BTW, as for 'Zeit' being dance stuff - maybe for catatonics and terminally
comatose, huh?
b. One thing irritates me very much. It I something I cannot forgive bearded
Eddie. Listen closely to first three minutes of title track of 'Shy People'
and then to opening of 'Shine On You Crazy Diamond' by PF. Could You comment
on foul suspicions of plagiarism, Mr Froese?
But seriously, for all those wanting to broaden their horizons, listen to
'Ummagumma' - if You do not know it Yet.
So, for now, fellow Dreamers
Marek
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Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 5:39
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Subject: Re: Tangentize My Brain =:-@
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Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.'
> Really-From: 'Greg Heil'
> I find that hard to believe about 'Encore'!
> Part of the album's greatness stems from it's
> innovative and unusual use of analog electronic
> instruments. There is no chance that there
> would be a remix of 'Coldwater Canyon'.. I'm
> not sure that guitar improv could ever be
> duplicated!
> When was this 'Tangentized' set released?
Encore is tangetized from the very beginning. If you hear it carefully
you'll perceive the brighter 'tangentine' layer on top of the not so
bright live stuff.
So since Encore and Ricochet were first than tangents maybe we invented
the wrong neologism. Maybe we shall call this 'Ricocheting' or
'Encoring'.
Regards
--- Francisco
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Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 6:14
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Really-From: TangerineC
The first 3 minutes of Shy people is a direct rip off of PF's song. I did'nt
even know what I was going to hear when I first bought it. Then when I played
it I immediatly said this is Shine On You Crazy Diamond. The shame on you,
Edgar!!!!! Tom
In a message dated 98-04-17 13:59:35 EDT, you write:
<< b. One thing irritates me very much. It I something I cannot forgive
bearded
Eddie. Listen closely to first three minutes of title track of 'Shy People'
and then to opening of 'Shine On You Crazy Diamond' by PF. Could You comment
on foul suspicions of plagiarism, Mr Froese? >>
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Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 6:30
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Subject: Re: Tangentize My Brain =:-@
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Really-From: 'Greg Heil'
> Really-From: Gabe Yedid
>
>
> On Fri, 17 Apr 1998, tadream mailing list wrote:
>
> > Really-From: 'Marcel Engels'
> >
> > And I find those 2 to be their best live-albums. (well ricochet and
poland
> > are
> > very good too)
>
> As far as the live albums go, I think _Poland_ is pretty much tops in my
> books.
>
> > Marcel
>
> Gabe
'Poland' and 'Encore' are my favorite live albums--'Logos'
is a-w-e-s-o-m-e for the first 20 or so minutes then it gets awry
and too bass-y on me and my speakers Cut off 'Dominion'--short,
repeatative, TD tracks were never my fav.
'Poland' is a masterpeice--the first and last tracks are the best
imo. Track seaperation being 1-2-3-4 on the Castle re-release.
'220 Volt'.. well the sax.. ugh.. but my favorite tracks are
'Backstreet Hero' (tops) and 'Hamlet'
Greg H.
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Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 6:38
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Subject: SV: Stuntman
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Really-From: 'Alexander Bjelke'
I saw a stuntman vinyl in a recordshop, and I was wondering if it is worth
picking up?
The midi file was atleast great....
Best regards
Alexander Bjelke
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Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 7:11
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Subject: Tangentization / White Eagle skipping
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Really-From: Michael Kepler
Wow, my first post in over a year... Can't say I've read even half
of any recent digests, but I wanted to chime in breifly on a couple
of things.
1) Tangentization: in addition to overdubs and remixes, this also
includes completely new performances of older compositions.
Several tracks
on the Tangents set were recorded anew from scratch by
Edgar, including Phaedra and the Pergammon piece which
was more of a sequel than a re-recording.
2) White Eagle dropouts/skipping: Yup, I've got the same problem
with my earlier virgin pressing. Just noticed this last
night. Too bad, it has been convenient to keep my old
copies at work and the remasters at home.
Have fun and try to be nice to each-other.
Michael 'Mookie' Kepler
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Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 8:21
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Subject: Another trick
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Really-From: '=?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWWFyZ3Vp?='
Hello TaDreamers!
I can't help telling you my recent find ; but as I like storytelling, I will
tell you the whole thing. A couple of weeks ago, I was chating with a
[feminine] collegue of music, especially of progressive rock. She told me
that her sister was a great fan. Neither her nor her sister knew too much
about TD. So I proposed myself to let them hear a best of TD on tape. And
so, I have to compile (what I think) the best of TD. As the solo projects of
each member and ex-member of TD is (to me) as precious as TD self work, I am
going to include EF's Aqua. I will do this series of 'best of'
chronologically, so as not to forget any (best) track. Now, I am up to 1974
and I thought that pieces of Aqua will be significative but not unlistenable
for a (young)[feminine]{new} TD listener. So I ran my wave editor to make
this super-mega-aqua-mix and I must say I had never noticed that the end of
the album (upland) sounded like a reverse sample. I re-reversed it and could
hear some nice piano notes! For those who can't do the trick, just let me
know : I've got a 160 ko MP3 file (22kHz - mono) to let you hear this. I'll
put in my homepage as soon as ... well you know, a homepage is always 'under
construction'! I can also mail it if not too many ask me. Well, you can say
it is obvious, but I'm happy of it. (It's in my way of life to be happy of
every little thing). BTW, I can say to the newest TD fans that it took me
time to listen and appreciate such albums like ZEIT, Alpha centauri, or
even Aqua and Electonic Meditation. Those albums are not very accessible
(IMHO) - though it depends on your music listening habits - you may dislike
them first, but like them later (so don't sell them / throw away /... ).
Hope this mail didn't bore too many people.
Fred
PS : Don't tell my wife about that.
nwwm (now working without music)
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Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 8:27
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Subject: Re: Miscellaneaous
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Really-From: '=?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWWFyZ3Vp?='
1- unsubscribe tangentized-tadream-material
2- subscribe antique-dreams ; Twilight folder ; (und so weiter)
3- I love 'Zeit' too, and not only to get asleep
4- nitcp (now in the cd player) :
King Crimson (half of it) : space groove / vector patrol (projekt two)
Steve Roach / Roger King : Dust to dust (sounds western)
The nightcrawlers : traveling backwards (clear 75-77 TD inspiration)
Tangerine ambience volume II (no comment, all has been said)
stone age : les chronovoyageurs (CD-extra with pc/mac CDROM track)
http://www.stone-age.net/
RMI : republic (everyone knows RMI)
Jiannis : plugged (sounds like 75-78 TD **including Cyclone** 'cause of
vocoder)
5- I won't go to the music store until some months
6- Greetings to all
Fred
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Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59
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Subject: Transfer of Information Act of 1972
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Really-From: Steven Feldman
>Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:14:19 -0400
>Subject: Re: keep cd
>From: tadream mailing list
>Really-From: OIK
>I have been sitting here pretty silently listening to all of this
>riggomoroar about The Keep [. . .]
>The controversy of it's release can be easily solved, if you are willing
>to do a little bit of digging. According to the Transfer of Information
>act of 1972, passed by the UN, any published material made after that
>date MUST be registered with the country in which it was published (that
>is of course if it is a country in the UN) and that these records are to
>be public. [. . .]
Now, that's interesting.
I wonder, though, at which point publishing information is
submitted: before or after something is actually published.
I did various searches on 'transfer of information act,' including
at the UN's website but came up with nothing. Care
to relay some more information about it?
>[. . .] I know here in the US I can go to any library and look up all
>of the CD's, books, magaziens, and pamphlets that were published in the
>past year. So if you know what country it was published in, someone in
>that country just needs to do a little digging.
Next time I go the Boston Public Library, I'll go to the government
documents depository and see what I can find on the Transfer of
Information Act of 1972, there.
Hey, it's a long shot for finding out if the 1984 KEEP LP was
'published,' but it's worth a shot. :)
-- Steven Feldman
From:
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Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59
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Subject: Feldman Officially Reprimanded by the TD Office
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Really-From: 'Molasar's Vague Ruminations on Existence'
This is from the TDI Guesbook
, April 17, 1998:
|From Tadream Office at Fri, 17/Apr/98 22:35:
|-----------------------------------------------
|It is time again to clarify some major point in this guestbook!!! Some
|people NEVER learn!!!
|TDI Music sold 150 copies of a soundtrack recording called 'The Keep' as
|a limited edition on TD's last U.K. tour in November 1997. The regular
|release will be distributed through Virgin Records and NOT TDI Music!!!
|The master tapes were sent to England in September 97, so if you have any
|complains about the final street release date.......PLEASE SEND YOUR
|COMMENTS TO VIRGIN MUSIC, and not into the guestbook (Mr. Feldman!!!).
|The band performed its contribution for the product and is not
|responsible for politics by Virgin Records.
|Regards, - TD office
Hey, well, it's a reprimand, but it's the first official reply I've
ever received from Upon on High. Makes me feel sort of blessed, if you
know what I mean. X-0
-- Steven Feldman
+ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - +
| 'Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence' -- Albert Einstein |
+ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - +
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Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59
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Subject: AQUA for TD Neophytes?
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Really-From: Steven Feldman
>Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 22:26:41 +0200
>Subject: Re: Another trick of EF
>From: tadream mailing list
>Really-From:
>
>[. . .] I was chating with a [feminine] collegue of music, especially
>of progressive rock. She told me that her sister was a great fan.
>Neither her nor her sister knew too much about TD. So I proposed myself
>to let them hear a best of TD on tape. And so, I have to compile (what I
>think) the best of TD. As the solo projects of each member and ex-member
>of TD is (to me) as precious as TD self work, I am going to include
>EF's Aqua. [. . .]
IMHO, including anything from AQUA is asking for trouble unless
either of these women are into 'dark ambient' or minimalist stuff in the
first place. EPSILON IN MALAYSIAN PALE is a much safer album, but the
(two) tracks are pretty long. How about stuff from STUNTMAN (like 'A
Dali-esque Sleep Fuse') and/or PINNACLES? And there's some great stuff
on KAMIKAZE 1989, too.
I've witnessed a lot of negative reactions to AQUA, and that's why
I thought I should post and tell you that. I love the title track,
myself, but that's me.
-- Steven Feldman
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From:
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Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 7:38
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Subject: ZeitGeist
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Really-From: ami.hassinen@e... (Hassinen Ami)
At 12:21 AM 4/17/1998 EDT, SRiser wrote:
>I also like 'ZEIT'
>you can't dance to it though...
>Take it out on a clear night....crank it up....and watch the stars go by.
>That's it. I am dragging out 'Zeit' tonight and listen to it again. Maybe
>in 15 years (last time I listened to it) my tastes have changed.
>But if I end up feeling like killing myself, like last time I heard it, and
>do it, it's on y'all's heads.
>Andrew
IMHO 'Zeit' is perhaps the TD album that benefited most of the remastering a
couple of years ago (or was it so long ago?). I think it is just another
sign of a good band to be able produce such a variety of material over the
years. Personally, I feel that ZEIT still is one of their most important
works, like it or not... It was unique music in 1972 and it is unique music
in 1998 as well.
If Andrew survives his experiment, perhaps he should try this next:
put the remastered, single CD version of Zeit to your CD player, non-stop
mode and let it play continously for the next 24 hours with a gentle volume...
You may not ever be the same again...certainly I wasnīt!!! :-O
(the perfect antidote is of course to do the same with ToB)
Greetings
Ami
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Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 10:54
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Subject: Re: white eagle cd
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Really-From: AOutland
In a message dated 98-04-15 05:36:57 EDT, you write:TangerineC:
<< I also take very good care of
my Cd's. I get kind of anal when it comes to the care of them. Maybe this is
why none of them have pinholes either. >>
Being now frightened to death of what is going to happen to a
considerable investment, I request knowledge on how to properly take care of
my CD's. I try not to ever touch them with my fingers except on the edges, I
use the liquid cleaner about once a month, I store them in a dark place. What
else can I do? Thanks. Dell
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Really-From: Michael Fox
At 12:09 AM 4/17/98 -0500, Andrew replied:
>>Take it out on a clear night....crank it up....and watch the stars go by.
>
>That's it. I am dragging out 'Zeit' tonight and listen to it again. Maybe
>in 15 years (last time I listened to it) my tastes have changed.
Lessee.....lemme quote a professional I know:
'Would you like to lay down on that couch over here and tell me all about it?'
Yeah...that's the quote.;-)
Mike
>But if I end up feeling like killing myself, like last time I heard it, and
>do it, it's on y'all's heads.
'Dr. Rozsa--step away from the kitchen knives, Sir!'
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Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 11:08
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Subject: Re: Feldman Officially Reprimanded by the TD Office
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Really-From: TWeibre361
In a message dated 98-04-17 17:46:47 EDT, you write:
<< Hey, well, it's a reprimand, but it's the first official reply I've
ever received from Upon on High. Makes me feel sort of blessed, if you
know what I mean. X-0 >>
reprimand?? hehe...i spit on their grave....
tom w
np: DEATH CUBE K = DREAMATORIUM
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Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 11:35
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Really-From: 'Lawry Simm'
I've just sequenced one of my favourite TD tracks ever.
Song of the whale (part 1). If you'd like a copy, you know
the score.
Regards,
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hi there, what kind of stuff do you have?
Michael
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> I have the following disc for sale if anyone is interested.
> Tangerine Dream 70/90 (#60 of 400).
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Subject: Re: 1984 KEEP Witnesses: Stand Up and look like a retard!!
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> >[re Marcel Engels's tirade about not believing in the 1984 KEEP album]
>
> >Hell yeah! Finally it is said with precision and truth! There is no
> >bloody Keep cassette! There is no bloody LP! I know just about every
> >hardcore soundtrack collector worth knowing and not ONE of them owns
> >this release, in any form!! [. . .]
>
> Yeah, right, Mr.-I-Can-Get-Any-and-All-Soundtracks-Because-I-Work
> for-Supercollector-Which-is-Omnipotent-in-the-Realm-of-All-That-Is-
> Soundtrack-Related.
I'm so flattered. Thanks ;-)
How is it, then, that you couldn't obtain the
> Japanese KEEP laserdisk whereas at least one person on this list (I
> think it was Jeffrey Au-Yeung) said they could get it no sweat?
Actually genius...we do have it in our archives. Ever think I might not
care to bother with your requests because of your pathetic ranting?
Didn't think so.
As for
> those 'hardcore soundtrack collector[s] worth knowing,' do me a favor:
> when I finally get proof of the 1984 KEEP LP, tell them that they can
> stuff their little inflated egos where the sun don't shine.
By that time...IF you ever prove it...do you really think anyone would
care any more than they do right now? Face it dude, you're the only one
who really gives a sh%!. I just hope it does exist...because that's the
only thing that will shut you the hell up!
>
> >[. . .] Marcel's right!! Don't any of you morons seeing this release
> >carry more than $15 bucks around with you!! Sheesh!!
>
> As an addendum, I just remembered: I routinely did not carry over
> $15.00 with me at the time because downtown Providence and the area that
> the store I saw the 1984 KEEP LP is sorta skeezy and I didn't want to
> be robbed . . . because as a dishwasher, I couldn't afford to be.
> I could've bought QUINOA when it came out but didn't have the $.
> I could've bought the 1st KLEM CD when it came out but didn't have
> the money. What in the hell is so hard-to-understand about that?!?!?!
What are the other 300 excuses though??
Dano
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Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa'
At 04:25 PM 4/17/1998, Michy wrote:
>Lessee.....lemme quote a professional I know:
>'Would you like to lay down on that couch over here and tell me all about
it?'
>
>Yeah...that's the quote.;-)
I HATE it when I am hoisted by my own petard. ;-)
>>But if I end up feeling like killing myself, like last time I heard it, and
>>do it, it's on y'all's heads.
>
>'Dr. Rozsa--step away from the kitchen knives, Sir!'
>
It warms my heart to know that if I follow Ami's advice, but the experiment
fails, I am in good hands. All ER physicians, please watch for the blood
trickling from under the attachments to your email.
Andrew
P.S. I just yelled at my son and asked him to quit torturing the cat. You
should have seen the espression on his face....'b-b-b-b-but, Daddy, it's
not the cat, it's the music you are listening to.' Fine ears, that boy has,
just like his daddy.
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Date: Sat Apr 18, 1998 3:00
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Subject: Re: ZeitGeist
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At 10:38 PM 4/17/1998 +0300, Ami wrote:
>IMHO 'Zeit' is perhaps the TD album that benefited most of the remastering a
>couple of years ago (or was it so long ago?). I think it is just another
>sign of a good band to be able produce such a variety of material over the
>years. Personally, I feel that ZEIT still is one of their most important
>works, like it or not... It was unique music in 1972 and it is unique music
>in 1998 as well.
Hei, Ami
Please don't misunderstand. I joke a lot. So my previous comments were
strictly for fun. But...
I do realize that 'Zeit' was a true milestone in TD evolution and,
directly, in the EMusic genre.
Personally, I prefer not call ANY music good or bad, but rather refer to it
as something that I like or not. 'Zeit' did not come to my ears in a
chronological sequence, but rather after I had listened (in that order) to;
Phaedra, Rubycon, Ricochet, Stratosfear, Encore, and Force Majeure. So, I
guess, there was a kind of audio-expectancy in my mind. Apparently, I never
recovered from the shock. :-) Similarly, though, I skipped the years (too
busy with career) between 'Poland' and '220 Volts Live' and when I heard
'220' I heard myself muttering 'what happened to my beautiful music?'
I worked my way backwards and I am at peace with much of TD's music, but
certain pieces have never quite felt right, even, though, I am aware of
their historical importance.
BTW, just for the record, I can't stand most of Klaus Schulze's stuff.
Even, if I do recognize his genius. I went through his Historical and
Silver Editions. Once. I am delighted that I did it. But, in all
probability, I will NEVER play them again.
De gustibus non disputandum est.
Best,
Andrew
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Anyone know what Tarzan, lost city of blah blah sounds like? Caught
Franke's name on the trailer & was curious if anyone had already heard
it. It'll probably be on Sonic Images and is probably another Babylon 5
score soundalike...woo hoo!
Dano
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Really-From: 'jowers'
Thanks to Lawry for doing it again!
This is a GREAT file!
> I've just sequenced one of my favourite TD tracks ever.
> Song of the whale (part 1). If you'd like a copy, you know
> the score.
>
> Regards,
> Lawry Simm
> lawrysimm@u...
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: white eagle cd
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Really-From: Michael Fox
At 06:54 PM 4/17/98 EDT, you wrote:
>
> Being now frightened to death of what is going to happen to a
>considerable investment, I request knowledge on how to properly take care of
>my CD's.
Hey Dell!
Give them love, devotion. They will be the next generation of out-of-print
CD's
Get 'em while U can!
Mike
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At 10:38 PM 4/17/98 +0300, Ami wrote:
>IMHO 'Zeit' is perhaps the TD album that benefited most of the remastering a
>couple of years ago (or was it so long ago?).
Ages..no not so long ago. The bass is an easy way for non-TD'ers to get
involved.
I think it is just another
>sign of a good band to be able produce such a variety of material over the
>years. Personally, I feel that ZEIT still is one of their most important
>works, like it or not... It was unique music in 1972 and it is unique music
>in 1998 as well.]
Agreed!
>
>If Andrew survives his experiment, perhaps he should try this next:
>
>put the remastered, single CD version of Zeit to your CD player, non-stop
>mode and let it play continously for the next 24 hours with a gentle
volume...
'Andrew.......you know this voice. It is Mr. Mxzyrptlkx. (sorry, It's hard
to type with four fingers)
DON'T! You will become a Postal Worker! And then.........?????????
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> Anyone know what Tarzan, lost city of blah blah sounds like? Caught
> Franke's name on the trailer & was curious if anyone had already heard
> it. It'll probably be on Sonic Images and is probably another Babylon 5
> score soundalike...woo hoo!
>
> Dano
Oh, man, you gotta be kiddin' me...Tarzan? Why? He can't forgive himself
for not scoring George of the Jungle?
::E::
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At 10:30 PM 4/17/1998, Mike wrote:
>
>'Andrew.......you know this voice. It is Mr. Mxzyrptlkx. (sorry, It's hard
>to type with four fingers)
>
>DON'T! You will become a Postal Worker! And then.........?????????
>
Ta-ta-ta-ta....or much needed drums on Zeit. Either.
:-)
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Date: Sat Apr 18, 1998 9:01
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Subject: Help!!! Where can I buy import Cd's for my business?No TD
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> Really-From: TangerineC
>
> Hi. Where can I buy import Cd's for my business for the best prices? If anyone
> knows,can you supply me with some cd import distributors? Thanks in advance.
> Tom TangerineC@a...
Check out 'Shopping for e-music, from a North Americans perspective' by
Andrew J. Rózsa at:
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/6639/p_shopping.html
Prepare to be poor........ 8-)
Mark
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Subject: 1984 KEEP Witnesses: Stand Up and Be Counted!
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Steven Feldman wrote:
> to show how many of us here on this list have seen this LP, I suggest
> that we 'stand up and be counted,' so to speak. Make the header of
> your post 'ENTRY: 1984 KEEP Album Witness Registry'
NO, LET'S NOT... AND SAY WE DID!!
I usually just ignore these things, but I'm pissed off too that you KEEP
wasting valuable bandwidth with this dribble about the Keep. Who gives
a s**t about that... give us a break and go make your own list somewhere...
don't waste our time anymore!!
Mark
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Subject: Aqua etc.
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> IMHO, including anything from AQUA is asking for trouble unless
>either of these women are into 'dark ambient' or minimalist stuff in the
>first place. EPSILON IN MALAYSIAN PALE is a much safer album, but the
>(two) tracks are pretty long. How about stuff from STUNTMAN (like 'A
>Dali-esque Sleep Fuse') and/or PINNACLES? And there's some great stuff
>on KAMIKAZE 1989, too.
> I've witnessed a lot of negative reactions to AQUA, and that's why
>I thought I should post and tell you that. I love the title track,
>myself, but that's me.
I agree with you, but she told me she wanted to know everything about TD and
chronologically (as say JMJ). I told her TD still existed (Matjora too) and
she was surprised. I told her the TD debut was electro acoustic and very
different of the nowadays rock TD but she said 'never mind'!
Incredible, no?
BTW, apologizes to the list members who : (1) received the mail titled
'trick' twice, because one of it is a beta version of the second, and (2)
received the one titled 'Miscellaneous' after the two previously mentionned.
In fact it has been written yesterday and should have been sent before, but
I don't know what my internet mail software did. Maybe, _he_ swallowed some
bytes the wrong way.
BTWBTW, it also happens that I received *answers* [of persons of the list]
to others [persons of the list] before the *question*!
Incredible, no?
Cheers,
Fred
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Subject: RE: Free E-mail Services Other Than Hotmail
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Really-From: 'Lawry Simm'
I use netaddress.com which is better than hotmail (I have
a hotmail account too) as I can hook my Outlook Express
into netaddress's POP3 and SMTP servers, meaning I
don't have to read/submit mail through the web, which
is a very important consideration for saving money.
Unless someone tells me I can hook up to hotmail's POP
server for free? (I'm pretty sure they charge for that facility).
Lawry
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Date: Sat Apr 18, 1998 11:31
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Subject: Thank you, Lawry
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Listening to Lawry's midi-files whilst opening tadream mailing list mail is
a little pleasure and a little treasure (as say Depeche Mode)
Thanks again for letting us share this. Both the choice of the instruments
and the arrangement are GREAT!
It's time for my little baby to take a rest - I wonder whether the song
isn't a lullaby for him!
Fred
np : song of the whale, part I, through the midi.
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Subject: Re: 1984 KEEP Witnesses: Stand Up and Be Counted!
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>
> Steven Feldman wrote:
> > to show how many of us here on this list have seen this LP, I suggest
> > that we 'stand up and be counted,' so to speak. Make the header of
> > your post 'ENTRY: 1984 KEEP Album Witness Registry'
>
> NO, LET'S NOT... AND SAY WE DID!!
> I usually just ignore these things, but I'm pissed off too that you KEEP
> wasting valuable bandwidth with this dribble about the Keep. Who gives
> a s**t about that... give us a break and go make your own list somewhere...
> don't waste our time anymore!!
>
> Mark
Showweee...Mark pulls up in his Testarosa wearing his mean blue & white
pastels...he means business. I'd listen Stevo...Mark knows what he's
talkin about...& so do I. Shut the hell up about the Keep already!
Dano-out!
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Really-From: PENFOLD
I swear I saw the LP at my local Tower Records. Didn't have the cash @ the
time. Came back when I did.....gone!
Pete
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http://www.artnet.net/~penfold/dev/null
'We throw each piece of equipment three times out of the third floor of our
studio complex. If it's still functioning properly, we'll take it on the
road. If not, we send it back to Tokyo!...'
-- Edgar Froese (founder of Tangerine Dream), on the easy way TD decides
on which instruments to take on the road.
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Date: Sat Apr 18, 1998 6:06
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Subject: Poland
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Really-From: 'jowers'
I have a copy of the Poland Double Vinyl Picture Disk for sale/trade.
Anyone interested, please contact me off-list.
Kevin
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I have a copy of the Poland Double Vinyl Picture Disk for sale/trade.
Anyone interested, please contact me off-list.
Kevin
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At 09:23 PM 4/17/98 -0500, the Zeitmeister wrote:
>I HATE it when I am hoisted by my own petard. ;-)
OB for Dano/Eli: heh heh....he said petard...heh heh....
>
>It warms my heart to know that if I follow Ami's advice, but the experiment
>fails, I am in good hands. All ER physicians, please watch for the blood
>trickling from under the attachments to your email.
mmmm....no blood so far, maybe he choked on the disk.
>
>P.S. I just yelled at my son and asked him to quit torturing the cat. You
>should have seen the espression on his face....'b-b-b-b-but, Daddy, it's
>not the cat, it's the music you are listening to.' Fine ears, that boy has,
>just like his daddy.
I was listening to the original and the version on Book of Dreams---one of
the cats had been on the couch beside me until I fired up the original
Zeit. She immediately went to the door to go outside and kill something.
Mike
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At 01:48 AM 4/18/98 -0500, Dr. Roszeit wrote:
>Ta-ta-ta-ta....or much needed drums on Zeit. Either.
Hey--ya know what's cool? Put on Zeit and then make a little loop via the
CD player....then after about six or seven hours, let it play the rest of
the disk.
hehehehahahrrhahrahrhahar!!!!!! aheheh........un......why are all my plants
dead?
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Subject: Re: 1984 KEEP Witnesses: Stand Up and Be Counted!
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>Really-From: PENFOLD
>
> I swear I saw the LP at my local Tower Records. Didn't have the cash @ the
>time. Came back when I did.....gone!
Ah, you see Steve. Another one! :-)
We all saw the LP or cassette, but no-one bothered to buy it.
Marcel
Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels
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Subject: Send All 1984 KEEP Album Info to Steve Feldman from Now On
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>Date: Apr 1998 06:07:19 -0300
>Subject: Re: 1984 KEEP Witnesses: Stand Up and Be Counted!
>From: tadream mailing list
>Really-From: Mark Fonda
>
>Steven Feldman wrote:
>> to show how many of us here on this list have seen this LP, I suggest
>> that we 'stand up and be counted,' so to speak. Make the header of
>> your post 'ENTRY: 1984 KEEP Album Witness Registry'
>
>NO, LET'S NOT... AND SAY WE DID!! ... give us a break and go make your
>own list somewhere. ... don't waste our time anymore!!
Okay. I'll stifle most of my KEEP-related TD musings from now on
and not post them to this list anymore. (Those who want to pursue this
elusive album, e-mail me privately and I'll set up my own little info
forwarding service. It won't be a listserv or a majordomo, but it will
go out to those who sign up as being interesting in receiving mailings.)
Thank you for giving me a great idea, too:
From now on, if anyone on this list gains any information regarding
sighting or obtaining or otherwise procuring a copy of the 1984 KEEP LP
or cassette (or 8-track?), DO NOT post it to the tadream mailing list at
tadream@c..., but to Steven Feldman at ar402004@b...
or steven_feldman@h...
Likewise, if anyone on this list gains any information regarding the
procurement of an audio copy of the 1984 KEEP album and/or photocopies
(or photographs) of the media itself (the record label on the vinyl
itself or the shell housing the cassette tape itself) and/or the front
and back covers of its covering (album sleeve or cassette insert card),
DO NOT post it to the tadream mailing list at tadream@c..., but to
Steven Feldman at ar402004@b... or steven_feldman@h...
Finally, if anyone here finds any *part* of a 1984 KEEP album, such
as the record without the cover, or the cassette without the insert card,
or the front cover of the record and nothing else, or the back cover of
the record and nothing else, or the record cracked in half held together
by a shred of paper from the record label, buy it and/or save it, but
whatever you do, don't throw it out. Such an unplayable but tangible
item would be tantamount to TD's Holy Grail.
Is everyone happy now?
Now, it will just be the few others who care and myself who will
ooh and ah as each and every (so far) false hope rears its head. E-mail
me if you wish to be among those I share my findings with via personal,
non-tadream mailing list e-mailings.
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Subject: Another trick of EF
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Hello TaDreamers!
I can't help telling you my recent find ; but as I like storytelling, I will
tell you the whole thing. A couple of weeks ago, I was chating with a
[feminine] collegue of music, especially of progressive rock. She told me
that her sister was a great fan. Neither her nor her sister knew too much
about TD. So I proposed myself to let them hear a best of TD on tape. And
so, I have to compile (what I think) the best of TD. As the solo projects of
each member and ex-member of TD is (to me) as precious as TD self work, I am
going to include EF's Aqua. I will do this series of 'best of'
chronologically, so as not to forget any (best) track. Now, I am up to 1974
and I thought that pieces of Aqua will be significative but not unlistenable
for a (young)[feminine]{new} TD listener. So I ran my wave editor to make
this super-mega-aqua-mix and I must say I had never noticed that the end of
the album (upland) sounded like a reverse sample. I re-reversed it and could
hear some nice piano notes! For those who can't do the trick, just let me
know : I've got a 160 ko MP3 file (22kHz - mono) to let you hear this. I'll
put in my homepage as soon as ... well you know, a homepage is always 'under
construction'! I can also mail it if not too many ask me. Well, you can say
it is obvious, but I'm happy of it. (It's in my way of life to be happy of
every little thing). BTW1, I can say to the newest TD fans that it took me
time to listen and appreciate such albums like ZEIT, Alpha centauri, or
even Aqua and Electonic Meditation. Those albums are not very accessible
(IMHO) - though it depends on your music listening habits - you may dislike
them first, but like them later (so don't sell them / throw away /... ).
BTW2, when my future homepage is ready, you will also find the tracklist and
covers of private compilations.
Hope this mail didn't bore too many people.
Fred
PS : Don't tell my wife about that.
nwwm (now working without music)
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Subject: Re: Favorite Live Albums
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I don't think there is a single live album of TD that I don't like (Except
Tournado):
Live! Improvised!* (Second set) Rheims Cathedral Mar 1975
Encore 1977
Pergamon Encore* Jan 31 1980
'Dreamtime'* Newcastle, England 1981
Logos 1982 + Logotypes* material
Poland 1983
Livemiles 1986
220 Volt 1992
Morgan
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>Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 14:56:44 -0500
>Subject: Re: Favorite Live Albums
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>Really-From: feldon@p...
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>I don't think there is a single live album of TD that I don't like
>(Except Tournado):
>
>Live! Improvised!* (Second set) Rheims Cathedral Mar 1975
>Pergamon Encore* Jan 31 1980
>'Dreamtime'* Newcastle, England 1981
>Logotypes* material
These're boots so they don't really count, as far as I'm concerned.
Granted, there are lotsa nice shows available (widely or not) on tape,
CD boot, and CD-R boot, but the vast majority of us here don't have a
heck of a lot of that stuff. I mean, it's hard enough to keep up with
TD's *official* output!
>Encore 1977, Logos 1982, Poland 1983, 220 Volt 1992
Yep. These are all good, yet I find POLAND the least satisfying of
the lot. After I play it all the way through, my reaction is always,
well, that's done, what next? rather than wowee but that was cool--what
can I follow up on *that* with? I find it to be the coldest of all of
the live TD I've heard--almost Kraftwerkian! In fact, I regularly
suggest POLAND, THE PARK IS MINE and MIRACLE MILE to techno fans who
think that TD is a washed-up New Age band--because of those albums'
cold, hard aspects.
>Livemiles 1986
In my opinion, 1988 marked TD's first out-and-out forays into New
Age, (OPTICAL RACE was released the very same year) and LIVEMILES
suffers greatly as a result. I think it's not just their worst live
album (even worse than TOURNADO, which is only bad in that it repeats
what is on studio albums too closely), but one of their worst albums,
period.
By the way, what happened to . . .
THREE PHASE 1992 (on videotape and laserdisk, but not on CD or cassette)
THREE PHASE is as much a live album as 220 VOLT LIVE, isn't it?
Granted, it suffers much of the drawbacks of TOURNADO since it consists
solely of covers of studio tracks, but . . . the versions of 'Phaedra'
and 'Logos' there are more similar to those on TANGENTS, and . . . the
version of 'Love on a Real Train' is unique in comparison to the two
versions (the one that is on ELECTRONIC ORGY and the one that is on the
regularly available soundtrack) that appeared on the original soundtrack.
-- Steven Feldman
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Subject: A Chance Meeting With A True TD-Head
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Really-From: Boneheads1
Hi all,
I just had to share this story with you.
I have started patronizing a small local music store that specializes in
imported music. One of the guys that workes at the store (or maybe he's the
owner, I don't really know) noticed that I was a fan of Tangerine Dream. So
he tells me that he recently was curious if he could make himself sick of
listening to Electronic Meditation. He put the CD on and listened to it over
and over every day for a week (at home, not in the shop). As a result of this
experiment, he concluded that he just couldn't get sick of it.
You gotta love a guy like that.
Best regards to all,
Tim Scallon
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>
>Hey--ya know what's cool? Put on Zeit and then make a little loop via the
>CD player....then after about six or seven hours, let it play the rest of
>the disk.
>hehehehahahrrhahrahrhahar!!!!!! aheheh........un......why are all my plants
>dead?
NO! You didn't!? You didn't play Zeit to your plants, did you? Just wait
until I tell the PETP!
Dr. Pacheco
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At 11:41 AM 4/18/1998, Mikey ('he'll eat anything') wrote:
>I was listening to the original and the version on Book of Dreams---one of
>the cats had been on the couch beside me until I fired up the original
>Zeit. She immediately went to the door to go outside and kill something.
How misguided can I be? I mistook the feeling I get when I listen to 'Zeit'
to wanting to kill myself. I think your cat's is infinitely more in tune
with his/her feelings than I am: it's 'kill someone'...preferably someone
else. Ahh.. now I get it.
Dr. Meow
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Subject: True TD-Head or Fan Only of Their 1st Album?
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>Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 16:45:34 EDT
>Subject: Re: A Chance Meeting With A True TD-Head
>From: tadream mailing list
>Really-From: Boneheads1
>
>I have started patronizing a small local music store that specializes in
>imported music. One of the guys that works at the store [. . .] noticed
>that I was a fan of Tangerine Dream. So he tells me that he recently
>was curious if he could make himself sick of listening to Electronic
>Meditation. He put the CD on and listened to it over and over every day
>for a week (at home, not in the shop). As a result of this experiment,
>he concluded that he just couldn't get sick of it.
The big question is, what kind of music does he tend to like most,
and how many (and which) TD albums does he have or heard? My guess is
that he likes stuff like Einsturzende Neubaten, Nitzer Ebb, Laibach, and
Sonic Youth, and only has TD's ELECTRONIC MEDITATION, ALPHA CENTAURI,
and ATEM. (In *that* case, he would consider ZEIT to be like an Eno
album, hee hee.)
I've encountered several people who ordinarily dislike TD yet
warm to ELECTRONIC MEDITATION quite readily.
>You gotta love a guy like that.
I suppose. Maybe he's like the lead character in SLING BLADE. ;)
-- Steven Feldman
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Really-From: goozer@a... (Hermes Guzman)
You know, I've never noticed my cat react in any way whenever I play any
music, let alone _Zeit_ (my ex-wife, coincidentally named Cat, often
reacted badly to a lot of music I played, especially early TD!) In fact, I
just barely notice that 72 mins. of my life have slipped away when I play
it! ;) Well since she's in here with me curled up on my lap, I think I'll
give it a try. Here we g...
Ow.
Meow. Meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow. Meow meow meow meow
meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow
meow meow meow meow. Purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
goozer
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Date: Sat Apr 18, 1998 9:42
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Subject: Message from the Church Of Molassar's Wadded Panties...
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Really-From: 'Craig Shipley'
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Good evening, Brothers and Sisters!!!
This discussion (rant, blathering, brouhaha, fartin' in a hurricane, you
choose) has led me to do some deep (yeah, right!) thinking. It seems to me
that the existence of The LP & Cassette can only be proved by the poor (Case
in point; NONE of the witnesses to The Release had enough money at the time
of The Encounter to purchase Either One. It is True, then, that The Release
can only be approached by the poor. This explains why I, being a rabid TD
fan that was in numerous record stores both in suburban DC, Baltimore MD and
Sacramento CA (home to Tower Record, BTW) during The Time of The Release,
never caught a glimpse of The Release, because I had the money to buy It
(shock and horror!!)!! I was Not Worthy of gazing upon The Release!! Think,
brothers and sisters, NOT ONE of the thousands of TD fans that had money at
the time, ever spotted The Release, because they had MONEY (gasp!!) in their
pocket or a credit card in their wallet!! (Why it never occurred to The
Witnesses to ask the stores to hold The Release until they had the money is
still a mystery. Perhaps it had something to do with the mystical emanations
wafting up from The Release? Perhaps they didn't think, having been in The
Presence of The Release and were in a state of euphoria? There are other
theories, but let us leave it a Mystery...)
And let us now consider the Story of The Cassette. While I do not wish to
cast Doubts or Aspersions on The Witness to the existence their experience
of The Cassette, I find a fundamental flaw in the Story. The Legend tells us
that the Power Of Darkness called for all of The Releases to be returned to
it for disposal almost as soon as The Release was in the stores. How is it,
then, that this Cassette was in the store for approximately a month? Could
it be that The Release was able to hide Itself from the Power Of Darkness
for a month, before being recalled? Or did it transform itself into another
release, say, something like 'B.J. Thomas's Greatest Hits', to prevent the
recall? Yet another Mystery...
I also think that possession of The Release is a death sentence. To purchase
It is to sign your death certificate. How else can we explain the fact that
we have never heard from one living soul who owns The Release? Simple, they
are all DEAD!! Doomed to death by ownership!! To gaze upon The Release
merely possesses you, but the actual act of ownership KILLS you dead!! Why
else, when we hear of tales of people purchasing The Release, that we never
hear anymore about it? Would you not declare ownership of this wonderful
Item at the top of your lungs? Knowing the value of this Release, would you
not set about making a CD Boot or offering cassette dubs to offset the Cost?
(Blasphemy!!) Would you not offer it For Sale (Blasphemy again!!) on the
Internet or in Goldmine? Why the Great Silence of the owners? I suspect
that, upon taking ownership of The LP or The Cassette and slipping it into
the doomed one's collection, some great evil befalls them. Heart attack,
alien abduction, a midnight visit from the 'Gubb-mint' who knows what;
chilling thought, isn't it?? To finally posses The Release and having your
earthly days come to a close so soon. Well, at least you MAY have had the
chance to actually hear It before you shuffle off this mortal coil... Is
your life worth it???
Now, as Sister Edwina Frost sets up a little sequence on the keyboard, I ask
you all to dig deep as the collection plate goes around. The Church is in
need of a new CD player for the rectory and we need a few new CD's from
Brother Shreeve and others. Brother Yens will be passing out Happie Pilz on
the way out, so please be generous! I thank you...
0;-) (or, more realistically >;-> )
(For those of you that took offense with this, lighten up!! Y'all are too
danged serious for your own good. Go for a walk or somethin'...)
NP: TD The Keep (Blue Moon Boot)
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Subject: Wanted: TICKLISH GUYS
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Are you a guy between the ages of 18-23 who is
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Or, perhaps, a new Windows 95 Pentium II 300-400 mhz. PC?
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If you are interested in this UNIQUE (and hopefully FUN) way of
making $$$$, please e-mail me. I need you to provide me with
a general picture (.gifs, .jpgs, .bmps, and pictures found on
webpage URLS are fine...and I have a mailing address to 'snailmail'
regular photos, also) before I can make you a concrete cash offer.
Average fees paid:
$125 for a 30 minute video
$250 for a 60 minute video
Money offered is determined by your looks, ticklishness, and who
will be tickling you.
A limited number of MICRON Pentium II Pro 266 and 300
pc systems are available for guys or groups of guys (e.g college
frathouses, etc) that make multiple videos for me!!!
Asian, Black and Hispanic guys are ESPECIALLY welcomed and wanted!!!
I have numerous online references that are available for contact to
assure you of my honesty, legitimacy, and SERIOUSNESS about all of
this.
PLEASE NOTE: This is not a TICKLING SERVICES AVAILABLE
POSTING. I have a boyfriend, full cadre of friends, and plenty of
guys to tickle already. I AM NOT LOOKING TO MEET OR TICKLE ANY
GUYS ENCOUNTERED FROM CYBERSPACE!!!! I also do not provide
videotaping equipment, facilities, or girls to tickle you. All
aspects of video production are your responsibility!!!!!
Thanks!!! I hope to hear from you!!!
Contact me by:
EMail: TicklishCollegeGuys@Y...
ICQ: 4703485
ICQ Internet Pager (email): 4703485@p...
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Really-From: 'John M. Poer'
At 05:42 PM 4/18/1998 -0400, you wrote:
>Really-From: 'Craig Shipley'
>
>
><'churchy'>>
>
>Good evening, Brothers and Sisters!!!
>
>This discussion (rant, blathering, brouhaha, fartin' in a hurricane, you
>choose) has led me to do some deep (yeah, right!) thinking. It seems to me
>that the existence of The LP & Cassette can only be proved by the poor (Case
>in point; NONE of the witnesses to The Release had enough money at the time
>of The Encounter to purchase Either One. It is True, then, that The Release
>can only be approached by the poor. This explains why I, being a rabid TD
>fan that was in numerous record stores both in suburban DC, Baltimore MD and
>Sacramento CA (home to Tower Record, BTW) during The Time of The Release,
>never caught a glimpse of The Release, because I had the money to buy It
>(shock and horror!!)!!
----major snip--------------
I think I'm inclined to agree with Craig.
At the time of 'The Release', I was WORKING at Paramount Pictures...and
knew Mr. Mann, as well as a number of other folks related to the film.
I also had a friend/vendor at a store in LA called 'Blue Meanie' who was a
TD fan as well as a major trader. He regularly got me copies of everything
he ever found (Staatgrenezie, Fassbinder, etc.) He always knew about the
stuff long before anyone else I knew and also knew that ANYTHING he found
that was related was an instant sale with no quibble about the price. If he
had found it...at any price....he would have offered it to me....or BRAGGED
that he had it if he only had one (trust me he DID THAT sometimes).
Last, but not least, I practically lived in record stores from Long Beach
to Pasadena (Poo-Bah's especially) and they also knew what kinds of stuff I
bought....saved stuff for me and so on. (All this while I was young and
rich...but that's another story).
All this combined with the fact that my closest friend is also a TD fan and
made me look like a piker when it came to finding and buying
records......he never found it either.
NONE of this proves it never existed....just that I never saw it and a lot
of people who would have been glad to sell it to me never offered it to me.
As David says, 'It's just my opinion.......'
jp
'I may be old, but I know what I like!'
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Really-From: '=?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWWFyZ3Vp?='
Are cats welcome to your video ?
My neighbor's cat (which often squat at my house) is very ticklish when ZEIT
is playing.
Well, are we, TD fans, sufficiently ticklish to get bored and angry at those
non-TD topic intrusions? It's getting worse and worse... can anybody put
this mailing list in 'red-list' by the telecom?
Cheers,
Fred
np : TIEZ (ie ZEIT played reversely)
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I LOVED IT! I WAS IN STITCHES!!!
Gabe
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Really-From: Gabe Yedid
she must have known this list would make good hunting ground...
but how many of us here match her preferred phenotype?
are male TD fans athletic in general?
not I...
Gabe
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Really-From: 'Greg Heil'
> Really-From: Terri
>
>
> Are you a guy between the ages of 18-23 who is
> HOT, TICKLISH, and IN NEED OF SOME U.S. CASH?
> Or, perhaps, a new Windows 95 Pentium II 300-400 mhz. PC?
> If so, read on...I'm very serious about what you'll discover...
Yah
My interest is in TICKLING.
Don't tickle me, I become an enraged maniac.. willing to kill
anything that tickles..
>
> I am actively looking for guys to make videos that I can add to
> my collection. Guys that interest me are YOUNG (basically,
> my age...18-23), HOT (swimmer/soccer/runnerbuilt....on the
> thin side...not too 'big-n-buff'....with absolutely no bodyfat
> whatsoever),
Oh Pizzzzzzz... No Bodyfat eh?
That equates to less than 1 percent of the world, I think.
(try Ethiopia, really!)
> I just want to see guys tied up and mercilessly,
> relentlessly TICKLED.
You mean.. legalized torture?
> Average fees paid:
> $125 for a 30 minute video
> $250 for a 60 minute video
Let's turn G's Pad into a regular video spitter outter!
> Money offered is determined by your looks, ticklishness, and who
> will be tickling you.
Can I tickle myself..?? WHAT? That dosn't count?
I also do not provide
Oh well.. there goes that idea :o)
Greg H.
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Hello TaDreamers!
Compare the very beginning of 'Drunken Mozart in The Desert' (Stuntman, EF)
and 'The Hall Of Mirrors' (Trans-Europ-Express, Kraftwerk). May be you'll be
surprised!
Fred
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In a message dated 98-04-18 22:42:44 EDT, you write:
<< N.P.: F.S.O.L 'Accelerator' Anyone fans of this album?
it's my first F.S.O.L. experience and I don't know what to think
yet... >>
let the music think for you...good album, not their best imo...
tom w
np: fsol - dead cities
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Hello, TaDreamers
>N.P.: F.S.O.L 'Accelerator' Anyone fans of this album?
>it's my first F.S.O.L. experience and I don't know what to think
>yet...
Yes, I'm a fan of FSOL.
I have the following items:
* Ambient - volume 1, 2 & 3 - a brief history of music (virgin compilation)
featuring amorphous androgynous (the group that lead to FSOL - as The Ones
were to TD) 3 tracks of them 'mountain goat', 'in mind', ' a study of six
guitars' and 'cascade parts 2 & 3' under the name of FSOL.
* Accelerator - 1 CD and 2 maxi CD
* Lifeforms - 1 CD and 1 maxi CD
* ISDN - 1 CD and 1 maxi CD
* Dead Cities - 1 CD and 2 maxi CD
By decreasing order of fav : Lifeforms, ISDN, Accelerator, Dead Cities.
BTW, I inform you that my new homepage features (among other things)
* The precise track list of Ambient Monkeys
* Aqua ending excerpt in forward and reverse format (mp3 file)
This page is under construction (!) and will receive more stuff later. To
get the URL, please e-mail me off-list, as I want to keep it private.
Obviously, your comments are welcome and will certainly help.
Cheers,
Fred
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I'm a ticklish guy, but I'm likely to punch and try to maim anyone who tries it!
John Majka
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Really-From: 'Greg Heil'
> Oh Pizzzzzzz... No Bodyfat eh?
> That equates to less than 1 percent of the world, I think.
> (try Ethiopia, really!)
>
Not really. unhappily, non fatty people are majority in this world
Ethiopia isn't an exception on earth, shy might try as well India, South
Africa, Somalia, Kenya, Brazil, Bolivia, Peru, Venezuela, Colombia, El
Salvador, Panama, Costa Rica, Albania, Eastern Europe in general...Even in
USA and European Union ( including Spain) there are more poverty than you
might think.
Statistics say wealthy people on earth is less than 30% of the total.
But you're right, less than 1% would be willing to spend it's time allowing
to be tickled.
--- Francisco
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Really-From: DAVENTURA
Just thought I would post this to the list. I have been selected to audition
for an exciting new game show for VH1 called Rock & Roll Jeopardy. The
audition is next Saturday, 4/25. Or if you're British 25/4. If I am selected
to be on the show, you can bet that I will somehow work TD into my 'let's meet
the contestants' part. Just thought you'd like to know....David
N.P... Supertramp...Breakfast in America...specifically 'Gone Hollywood'
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Really-From: OIK
I have never noticed any reaction from any of my animals to any music I have
ever
played, but I know if I play country & western, my girlfriend's mom would
spontainiously begin vomiting...does that count??
Mike Daly
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> Really-From: goozer@a... (Hermes Guzman)
>
> You know, I've never noticed my cat react in any way whenever I play any
> music, let alone _Zeit_ (my ex-wife, coincidentally named Cat, often
> reacted badly to a lot of music I played, especially early TD!) In fact, I
> just barely notice that 72 mins. of my life have slipped away when I play
> it! ;) Well since she's in here with me curled up on my lap, I think I'll
> give it a try. Here we g...
>
> Ow.
>
> Meow. Meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow. Meow meow meow meow
> meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow
> meow meow meow meow. Purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
>
> goozer
>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 'Those who believe the world is made up of shades of grey have been staring
> at the line between black & white for
> so long that their vision has blurred.'
> ---------------------------------------------------
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visit my home page at http://oik.home.ml.org
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last but not least, Have a Nice Day :o)
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> Really-From: Terri
>
> Are you a guy between the ages of 18-23 who is
> HOT, TICKLISH, and IN NEED OF SOME U.S. CASH?
> Or, perhaps, a new Windows 95 Pentium II 300-400 mhz. PC?
> If so, read on...I'm very serious about what you'll discover...
>
> My name is Terri. I am a female college student in the
> Boston, Massachusetts area that is a total TICKLING FREAK.
> As a hobby...one that costs me ALOT of money...I maintain an
> personal collection of amateur videos featuring guys being
> tickled (usually for 30 or 60 minutes) by a girlfriend, good girl
> friend, girl friends, or even guy friends. I am not a business,
> video trader, or porn solicitor. My interest is in TICKLING.
>
> I am actively looking for guys to make videos that I can add to
> my collection. Guys that interest me are YOUNG (basically,
> my age...18-23), HOT (swimmer/soccer/runnerbuilt....on the
> thin side...not too 'big-n-buff'....with absolutely no bodyfat
> whatsoever), and TICKLISH! No sex or nudity are wanted in
> my videos. I just want to see guys tied up and mercilessly,
> relentlessly TICKLED.
>
> If you are interested in this UNIQUE (and hopefully FUN) way of
> making $$$$, please e-mail me. I need you to provide me with
> a general picture (.gifs, .jpgs, .bmps, and pictures found on
> webpage URLS are fine...and I have a mailing address to 'snailmail'
> regular photos, also) before I can make you a concrete cash offer.
>
> Average fees paid:
> $125 for a 30 minute video
> $250 for a 60 minute video
>
> Money offered is determined by your looks, ticklishness, and who
> will be tickling you.
>
> A limited number of MICRON Pentium II Pro 266 and 300
> pc systems are available for guys or groups of guys (e.g college
> frathouses, etc) that make multiple videos for me!!!
>
> Asian, Black and Hispanic guys are ESPECIALLY welcomed and wanted!!!
>
> I have numerous online references that are available for contact to
> assure you of my honesty, legitimacy, and SERIOUSNESS about all of
> this.
>
> PLEASE NOTE: This is not a TICKLING SERVICES AVAILABLE
> POSTING. I have a boyfriend, full cadre of friends, and plenty of
> guys to tickle already. I AM NOT LOOKING TO MEET OR TICKLE ANY
> GUYS ENCOUNTERED FROM CYBERSPACE!!!! I also do not provide
> videotaping equipment, facilities, or girls to tickle you. All
> aspects of video production are your responsibility!!!!!
>
> Thanks!!! I hope to hear from you!!!
YEEEHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! You could tickle my ass...but I'm afraid
I'm over the age limit...oh boo hoo. Seriously...how does this stuff get
through? Hey Dave...get outta that pub & screen these babies out!
Hhehehehehe.
Dano-out!
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John writes:
> As David says, 'It's just my opinion.......'
Actually the correct quote is, 'Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be
wrong.'
Just thought I would clarify this....David
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Really-From: ami.hassinen@e... (Hassinen Ami)
Kazoong!
As far as 'Lifeforms' and 'Accelerator' are concerned, theyīre good, but
basically rather techno-orientated stuff (by the way, thereīs nothing wrong
with that, IMO). But an average TD-head would probably enjoy more of their
works 'ISDN' and 'BBC Radiolive'. Theyīre looser, more ambient
music...perhaps these guys are the most imaginative sample users of the 90īs.
Their later 'Dead Cities' is much more aggressive material (great O.
Tentacles samples there, anyway). If you wear only black clothes, dislike
sunlight and are into urban Angst, perhaps this could be your ultimate
ambient album ;->
By the way, talking about those drums on Zeit... isnīt there a pic of Franke
and Baumann with a drum kit in the Tangents booklet? If I remember
correctly, it was captioned to originate from the Zeit-sessions... Well,
more likely itīs from Atem sessions. Or has any of you any information that
they originally intended to use drums on Zeit? I donīt hear any...
Space is deep,
Ami
http://www.nettilinja.fi/~ahassine
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> Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.'
>
>
> > Really-From: 'Greg Heil'
> >
> > N.P.: F.S.O.L 'Accelerator' Anyone fans of this album?
> > it's my first F.S.O.L. experience and I don't know what to think
> > yet...
>
> I have *Lifeforms,* which is great...hey, Greg, whaddya think you're
trying
> to start? Take it to the GoldTri list, pal!!! Hahaha!!! (and I'll see you
> there!!!!)
>
> ::E::
Yah..
sorrie E-Man, I know how quickly offended ya get!!
heehee
Unfortunately.. I've been waiting for all those great
new TD releases to make it here.. well.. I'd buy
'Ambient Monkeys' if it was there..
But alas.. it isn't, and with finals coming up..
I needed some thumping (not Tubhumping) music..
TD Content.. Yay! :
Raise your hand everyone if you agree that 'Le Parc'
was written by a Skhitzophonic.. as I still can't find any
direction in it.. at least 'Optical Race' used the same
instruments (ya know.. presets) Oh well.. it will
definately be my major proof that all of the Earth's
parks are very different..
Greg H.
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> Really-From: 'Greg Heil'
>
> N.P.: F.S.O.L 'Accelerator' Anyone fans of this album?
> it's my first F.S.O.L. experience and I don't know what to think
> yet...
I have *Lifeforms,* which is great...hey, Greg, whaddya think you're trying
to start? Take it to the GoldTri list, pal!!! Hahaha!!! (and I'll see you
there!!!!)
::E::
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Date: Sun Apr 19, 1998 2:57
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Really-From: Vic Rek
Well I spent almost 7 hours today listening to stuff that would make your
neighbor call Dr. Andrew, but not I. I love this stuff. Too difficult for
most, but beautiful to me. I can totally relate to this type of
experimental music. This has never been repeated and probably never will
be. Between totally drifting away to past memories and lands, I was trying
to figure out what went through Edgar's brain when he played this stuff. He
must be a genius, just like Klaus Schulze.
I've been listening to 7 pre-release CD-Rs of The Virtual Files - a living
TD library of live and obscure recordings. Here is a quick rundown of the
releases I know of: {}'s mean comments/opinions/questions not fully resolved
on these releases.
Virtual Files:
71-01 contains:
1. 71 Berlin (FM) interview & Ultima Thule outtake {1970}
2. 71 Berlin (FM) Ard-Jugendmagazin Ultima Thule outtake
3. 71.06.19 Frankfurt University (FM)
4. 71.06.26-
71.07.05 Ossiach, Austria (Welt Musik Festival), Oszillator Planet Conzert
72-01 contains:
1. 72.04.25 Gerandeaus bis zum Morgen, OST (TV), {1971}
2. 72 Berlin (RIAS-FM) 'Klangcollege' {72.04.26}
3. 72/{73} Unknown location {72.06.22}
72-02 contains:
1. 72.11.25 Cologne (WDR-FM) 'Nachtmusik in WDR'
73-01 contains:
1. 73.05.25 Ponts de Ce, France Open Air Festival (2 CD-Rs)
73-02 contains:
1. 73.08.21 Eine fur alle Mal OST
Bonus
2. 76 Tatort 'Kassenstruz' OST with TD 1974-1975 music
3. 79 {78} Fracture OST with TD and Froese 1974-1975 music
73-03 contains:
1. 73.11.29 Berlin (RIAS-FM) 'Deutsch Rock - Music Portraits von der
Inlandscene'
If you're into this music, then I hope you find these. I will be on/off this
list for the next few weeks, so those that have e-mailed me, please be
patient for replies.
Hope this helps,
Vic
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> Really-From: '=?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWWFyZ3Vp?='
>
>
> Hello TaDreamers!
>
> Compare the very beginning of 'Drunken Mozart in The Desert' (Stuntman,
EF)
> and 'The Hall Of Mirrors' (Trans-Europ-Express, Kraftwerk). May be you'll
be
^^^^^ ^^^^^ ^^^^^
__ IIIIIIII_ _ IIIIIIII__IIIIIII___
My Fav KW song! I'd love to hear 'Druken Mozart in The Desert'!
Is 'Ages' on re-release?
^^^^^^^
IIIIIIII
<<>>
> surprised!
>
> Fred
Greg H.
N.P.: F.S.O.L 'Accelerator' Anyone fans of this album?
it's my first F.S.O.L. experience and I don't know what to think
yet...
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Subject: Chat with Tangerine Dream!
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Hi
I found this at the official TD page
> Chat with Tangerine Dream!
>
> Wednesday April 22 at 8pm (Eastern US time) the Sci-Fi Channel's website,
> The Dominion, is hosting an on-line 'rave' chat event, featuring Tangerine
> Dream. Edgar & Jerome Froese will be online, along with Odyssey's Producer,
> Steven Churchill. They will be answering questions and chatting about the
> music for the new video 'LUMINOUS VISIONS'. Go to the dedicated 'rave' page:
> http://www.scifi.com/rave/ for more information, and to
> http://www.scifi.com/chat/ for the chat.
>
> Talk with you soon!
Nothing need to be added.
Francisco
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Subject: IMAGES FROM ELECTRONIC ORGY
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Hi
I've scanned the complete Electronic Orgy images ( including CD rings) using
300ppp (and 400ppp for the cover and back-cover) resolution and then
compressed in jpeg format.
For those who want to have them go to:
http://www.ctv.es/USERS/fsalgado/orgy.zip
Hola
La colección completa de imágenes de ELECTRONIC ORGY ( incluidos los discos
de los CD) están a vuestra disposición en la dirección arriba indicada.
Saludos
Francisco
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>
> Just thought I would post this to the list. I have been selected to audition
> for an exciting new game show for VH1 called Rock & Roll Jeopardy. The
> audition is next Saturday, 4/25. Or if you're British 25/4. If I am selected
> to be on the show, you can bet that I will somehow work TD into my 'let's meet
> the contestants' part. Just thought you'd like to know....David
>
> N.P... Supertramp...Breakfast in America...specifically 'Gone Hollywood'
What if you get asked the question or actually...what if you get the
answer:
'Roseanne' ...and what will you answer with?? ;-)
Dano
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> Didn't this extra material appear on the Private Music of Tangerine Dream?
> I have this CD and 3? unreleased tracks are great.
Not to my knowledge, no. The two tracks are credited to Edgar and
Jerome, and don't sound particularly Melrose-ish..to me, anyway.
-B. Kirby
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I heard that 'Oasis' the video or music,
took 8 years to complete--does this mean
that some of the music on 'Oasis' could
be that old? If so, there's a possible
correlation with 'Melrose' or 'Rockoon.'
Since 'Oasis' is my favorite albumk since
'Poland', and that I live in the very area the
music is influenced from, I hope this album
is just one in many of more electronic,
intellegent compositions.
Greg H.
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On Sun, 19 Apr 1998, tadream mailing list wrote:
> Really-From: 'Greg Heil'
>
> I heard that 'Oasis' the video or music,
> took 8 years to complete--does this mean
> that some of the music on 'Oasis' could
> be that old? If so, there's a possible
> correlation with 'Melrose' or 'Rockoon.'
Well...'Waterborne' did serve as the opener on the 1992 tour, so at least
it is that old. Pieces like 'Zion' and 'Reflections' do have more in
common with the early '90s stuff than with _Goblins Club_. Then again,
we also have 'Summer Storm', which is more in line with ToB/Dream Mixes.
Gabe
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>>Really-From: Boneheads1
>>
>>I have started patronizing a small local music store that specializes in
>>imported music. One of the guys that works at the store [. . .] noticed
>>that I was a fan of Tangerine Dream. So he tells me that he recently
>>was curious if he could make himself sick of listening to Electronic
>>Meditation. He put the CD on and listened to it over and over every day
>>for a week (at home, not in the shop). As a result of this experiment,
>>he concluded that he just couldn't get sick of it.
> The big question is, what kind of music does he tend to like most,
>and how many (and which) TD albums does he have or heard? My guess is
>that he likes stuff like Einsturzende Neubaten, Nitzer Ebb, Laibach, and
>Sonic Youth, and only has TD's ELECTRONIC MEDITATION, ALPHA CENTAURI,
>and ATEM. (In *that* case, he would consider ZEIT to be like an Eno
>album, hee hee.)
> I've encountered several people who ordinarily dislike TD yet
>warm to ELECTRONIC MEDITATION quite readily.
I find that interesting, because I've never met someone who was really into
Electronic Meditation before (which I suppose is why I wrote the note in the
first place). It makes me glad to get input from someone who is able to
discern value in a piece of art beyond what my own perceptions have been.
Electronic Meditation is not what I'd consider an 'easy' album to listen to,
and the thought of listening to it over and over was at first a bit
disconcerting. However, given that thought to contend with, I was able to go
home and listen with 'new ears'.
>>You gotta love a guy like that.
> I suppose. Maybe he's like the lead character in SLING BLADE. ;)
I'm sure there are a lot of 'maybes' that one could apply. I prefer to accept
the interpretation that he has a very subtle appreciation for fine music.
> -- Steven Feldman
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Subject: Second Chance
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Howdy All...
Have some goodies to sell...giving this list first crack at 'em.
Steve Roach....Stornwarning- Excerpts.....$7.00
Tangerine Dream....Turn of the Tides- CDS.....$5.00
Tangerine Dream....Phaedra (CDV2010).....$7.00
Tangerine Dream....Catch Me If You Can (Still sealed)...$9.00
You pay postage.
Contact me off list if interested.
Ken
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Maybe it takes all kinds, but Ambient Monkeys is one of my favorite albums
these days. It has that unaffected attitude that is classic Tangerine Dream.
Motorcycles, rain, ocean waves, trains, classical overtures and pulsing
electronics are all brought into harmony. All are balanced. Sometimes
fierce, sometimes quiet, the jungle changes mood with the music.
Id love to play this very loudly in a train station, or a shopping mall, or a
business office. Like Tangerine Dreams best music, it conveys its own
awareness, vibrant and alive. I cant say I always understand it, but it
makes me tremendously curious. Natural sound affects mixed with music always
add a dimension of chaos and infinity. This album seems like a mix of that
chaos and sublime composition. It feels very ahead of its time. Sort of like
it Picks up from where nature music leaves off.
One of the tracks: The seventh propeller of silence is actually Astral
Voyager from Green Desert with some additions, but Ill bet somebody
already mentioned that. I dont recognize the rest of the tracks.
I am happy to see Tangerine Dream branching into yet another new dimension. I
for one do not resist the change.
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Having just heard the news that Linda had died, I felt compelled to post
something to the list. I feel for Paul and his family. It is a great
loss....David
N.P...Paul McCartney...All the Best
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> Really-From: OIK
>
> I have never noticed any reaction from any of my animals to any music I have
ever
> played, but I know if I play country & western, my girlfriend's mom would
> spontainiously begin vomiting...does that count??
>
> Mike Daly
>
I found birds (feathered type!) are best for getting a reaction. My parents
have some
pet
budgies and canaries, so whenever I go home I play them some music. TD normally
or
some
Mike Oldfield.
Can usually get the canary to join in at some point..thought don't know if this
is
good or bad..
it's an excuse to turn the volume up though..
Colin
n.p. 'Incantations' -- Mike Oldfield
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Hey!
I'm in Toronto for a week and was wondering if there was a good
place in town to find some rare prog/e-music CD's...
Thanks for any help anyone can give me!
- jim
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Subject: KEEP THE KEEP
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Don't let the bastards get you down, Steven.
--Dave
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> I'm in Toronto for a week and was wondering if there was a good
> place in town to find some rare prog/e-music CD's...
One place you'll want to check out is Seekers Books. Yeah, it's a
bookstore on the outside, but they have a good selection of imported and
hard-to-find electonic and esoteric music. They're at Bloor and
Brunswick. The music is on the lower level.
Other places you can try: Black Planet, on Queen Street at Augusta.
They're expensive, but you can occasionally snag something interesting.
Into vinyl? Try 'Just for the Record', on Yonge just south of Gerrard.
Or Pete's Vinyl Museum, on Bloor west of Bathurst.
Other than that, don't be afraid of the two big chain stores on Yonge
Street: HMV and Sam's. You won't find out-of-print items, of course...but
you will find stuff like 'Catch Me if You Can', 'Ages' and the Australian
'Goblin's Club'.
Happy shopping!
SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator
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Date: 04/20/1998 11:20 am (Monday)
From: Kevin EARLEY
To: ccMail:'tadream@c... at INTERNET'
Subject: Goodbye Keep
Steven,
I would like to thank you for removing your interest (and enthusiasm) for
The Keep from this list. This topic frequently causes feelings to run
high, and I think the list will benefit from its absence.
I am saddened, however, because personally, I found this ongoing
soap-opera to be quite
amusing, and entertaining.
For the record, I see no reason not to believe that The Keep Soundtrack
did surface at some point in the past, so count me as a believer. I doubt
that any copies will ever turn up again, however.
Kevin Earley
kearley@r...
PS. I though that the 8-track cover was quite clever, and I was expecting
(and looking forward to) more fallout from it.
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Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott'
Steven, you're vindicated. You owe me. :-)
Courtesy of the US Copyright Office of the Library of Congress, I was
able to find the following entry:
PA-249-378 (COHM) ITEM 3 OF 24 IN SET 2
TITL: The Keep / music by Tangerine Dream.
IMPR: [s.l. : s.n., 19--]
PHYS: 1 v.
NOTE: Score from the film.
CLNA: Famous Music Corporation
DCRE: 1983 DPUB: 10Dec83 DREG: 24Jun85
APAU: music & arrangements: aParamount Overseas Productions, Inc.,
employer
for hire of aEdgar Froese, aChris Franke & aJohannes Schmolling
p.k.a. Tangerine Dream.
LINM: NM: new arr. to 2 preexisting songs & additional music &
arrangements.
ECIF: 3/M
Now, this is not bibliographic information like what you'd find in a
library catalog, it's the copyright information. 'Famous Music Corp.' is
probably the company that the film's producer set up to publish the
music. You'll notice the 'DPUB' (Date of Publication) is 10 December,
1983. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!!!
Scott
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In a message dated 98-04-20 12:46:18 EDT, you write:
<< Courtesy of the US Copyright Office of the Library of Congress, I was
able to find the following entry: >>
amazing that no one did this sooner...good move...
tom w
np: further east-westercisms
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>Really-From: Sean Montgomery
>One place you'll want to check out is Seekers Books. Yeah, it's a
{etc.}
Thanks Sean! Hopefully, my client will let me wonder around for an
afternoon sometime before I have to go...
- jim
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>Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott'
>Courtesy of the US Copyright Office of the Library of Congress, I was
>able to find the following entry:
>TITL: The Keep / music by Tangerine Dream.
Isn't this just the copyright to the film score (and not the released
album)? I thought all film scores had to be copyrighted whether or
not they were released in any format... (i.e. VISIONQUEST, FORBIDDEN,
etc.)
- jim
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On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, tadream mailing list wrote:
> Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott'
>
>
> Steven, you're vindicated. You owe me. :-)
and we all know how nasty debts between librarians can be. ;)
> Courtesy of the US Copyright Office of the Library of Congress, I was
> able to find the following entry:
>
> PA-249-378 (COHM) ITEM 3 OF 24 IN SET 2
> TITL: The Keep / music by Tangerine Dream.
> IMPR: [s.l. : s.n., 19--]
> PHYS: 1 v.
> NOTE: Score from the film.
> CLNA: Famous Music Corporation
> DCRE: 1983 DPUB: 10Dec83 DREG: 24Jun85
> APAU: music & arrangements: aParamount Overseas Productions, Inc.,
> employer
> for hire of aEdgar Froese, aChris Franke & aJohannes Schmolling
> p.k.a. Tangerine Dream.
> LINM: NM: new arr. to 2 preexisting songs & additional music &
> arrangements.
> ECIF: 3/M
Does the Library of Congress have a copy in their collection, then?
> Scott
Gabe
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>Isn't this just the copyright to the film score (and not the
released
>album)? I thought all film scores had to be copyrighted
whether or
>not they were released in any format... (i.e. VISIONQUEST,
FORBIDDEN,
>etc.)
Good question. The database from which I got this lists music
recordings (among other things). Sheet music is listed in another
database.
Scott
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Subject: Excuse me, do I have egg on my face?
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> > Courtesy of the US Copyright Office of the Library of Congress, I
> was
> > able to find the following entry:
>
> >
> > PA-249-378 (COHM) ITEM 3 OF 24 IN SET 2
> > TITL: The Keep / music by Tangerine Dream.
> > IMPR: [s.l. : s.n., 19--]
> > PHYS: 1 v.
> > NOTE: Score from the film.
> > CLNA: Famous Music Corporation
> > DCRE: 1983 DPUB: 10Dec83 DREG: 24Jun85
> > APAU: music & arrangements: aParamount Overseas Productions, Inc.,
> > employer
> > for hire of aEdgar Froese, aChris Franke & aJohannes
> Schmolling
> > p.k.a. Tangerine Dream.
> > LINM: NM: new arr. to 2 preexisting songs & additional music &
> > arrangements.
> > ECIF: 3/M
>
>Does the Library of Congress have a copy in their collection,
then?
Actually, the more I look at it, I think that may be the score,
not the ST. I compared it to the Miracle Mile ST, and the records are
not at all similar. Oh well, false alarm.
Scott
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> Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott'
> TITL: The Keep / music by Tangerine Dream.
> CLNA: Famous Music Corporation
> DCRE: 1983 DPUB: 10Dec83 DREG: 24Jun85
[...]
> Now, this is not bibliographic information like what you'd find in a
> library catalog, it's the copyright information. 'Famous Music Corp.' is
> probably the company that the film's producer set up to publish the
> music.
Famous Music Corp. is the company the owns the rights to the music. But
don't bother calling them, I already did. I'll let you know if I find
something out... Maybe I should ask them 'how much'?
Vic
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Would that be deviled eggs too, Scott? ;)
(it continues to bedevil us all...)
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At 03:59 PM 4/18/98 -0500, Dr. Meow wrote:
>How misguided can I be? I mistook the feeling I get when I listen to 'Zeit'
>to wanting to kill myself. I think your cat's is infinitely more in tune
>with his/her feelings than I am: it's 'kill someone'...preferably someone
>else. Ahh.. now I get it.
Well, it works for her. Personally I hate all those feathers in my mouth.
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>Really-From: 'Jim Moore'
>
>
>Hey!
>
>I'm in Toronto for a week and was wondering if there was a good
>place in town to find some rare prog/e-music CD's...
>
>Thanks for any help anyone can give me!
>
>- jim
Try Ed's Record World on Yonge St. just north of Eglinton Ave. They usually
have some TD boots and other electronic stuff.
Happy hunting !
Steve
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At 03:54 PM 4/18/98 -0500, you wrote:
>NO! You didn't!? You didn't play Zeit to your plants, did you? Just wait
>until I tell the PETP!
Well, in an effort at resusitation, I put a Yanni on infinite repeat and
left the house for the day. When I got back, the cats had changed all the
locks and refused to let me in. Lesson learned.
Michy
ps--I found the disk in the bottom of the catbox. I left it there.
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At 05:42 PM 4/18/98 -0400, you wrote:
There are other
>theories, but let us leave it a Mystery...)
Hey Ship, I think you're on to something here! I had to throw my copy of
The Release away after I noticed the albums around it were warping and had
a lot of rot on them. It imediately cleared up all the problems.
So there----get The Release and die young!!!
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It's great to see some discussion of this new work from The Tangs, but
where in hell (or anywhere else for that matter) can I get my mitts on a
copy of it????? All attempts to buy this album have failed, much to my
misery and discontent...
Anyone know, or do you have to belong to some secret underground sect to
even sniff the cover?
Cheers folks
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Maybe it takes all kinds, but Ambient Monkeys is one of my favorite
albums
these days. It has that unaffected attitude that is classic Tangerine
Dream.
Motorcycles, rain, ocean waves, trains, classical overtures and pulsing
electronics are all brought into harmony. All are balanced. Sometimes
fierce, sometimes quiet, the jungle changes mood with the music.
Id love to play this very loudly in a train station, or a shopping mall,
or a
business office. Like Tangerine Dreams best music, it conveys its own
awareness, vibrant and alive. I cant say I always understand it, but it
makes me tremendously curious. Natural sound affects mixed with music
always
add a dimension of chaos and infinity. This album seems like a mix of that
chaos and sublime composition. It feels very ahead of its time. Sort of
like
it Picks up from where nature music leaves off.
One of the tracks: The seventh propeller of silence is actually Astral
Voyager from Green Desert with some additions, but Ill bet somebody
already mentioned that. I dont recognize the rest of the tracks.
I am happy to see Tangerine Dream branching into yet another new dimension.
I
for one do not resist the change.
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Perhaps I'll play this at Burning Man and see what happens.
BTW: There's usually some great ambient stuff being broadcast or
played/performed aloud at one time or another at this festival.
Pete
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'We throw each piece of equipment three times out of the third floor of our
studio complex. If it's still functioning properly, we'll take it on the
road. If not, we send it back to Tokyo!...'
-- Edgar Froese (founder of Tangerine Dream), on the easy way TD decides
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In a message dated 98-04-20 07:17:15 EDT, you write:
<<
I'm in Toronto for a week and was wondering if there was a good
place in town to find some rare prog/e-music CD's...
>>
I'm jealous - - one of my favourite cities!! Of course the times
I've been there I was unable to find anything better than I have here in
Chicago. In fact not as good, but then I'm hardly in 'the know'.
Phil Naunton
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DId the typeface in the TD guestbook change to a smaller font, or are my
eyes going bad on me?
Mj
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Scott's research today prompted me to finally do my own research. I talked
to the right people due to Scott's clue of who owns the music, meaning
Famous Music Corp.
I found them on The Web and called Famous Music Corp. (in New York City) and
spoke to the head guy there and he said that they definitely own the rights
to the soundtrack. I asked him the famous question 'Was The Keep ever
released on vinyl or any other format?'. He told me to contact this person
in California that works at Paramount. I called and left a detailed message
explaining the situation and the guy called me back.
The conversation went something like this. He told me that indeed Famous
Music Corp. owns the rights and they are not for sale. Second, he told me
that The Keep soundtrack was NEVER released in any format. He did say that
the soundtrack was partially completed, but never completed for release. He
also went on to say that Paramount would definitely have a copy if ever one
existed. OK, so I took this all in and asked the nagging question again to
this effect 'Would it be slightly possible that if it was released (then
recalled) that it would be kept a secret for any reason(s)?' He seemed to
get a little annoyed (I think) and said again that no soundtrack was ever
completed for public release. He suggested that maybe there was a
bootleg/pirate out. He did not deny that The Keep soundtrack was being
made, but said that the project was scrapped midway.
Looking at this, I can only conclude (as I have in the past), this
soundtrack DOES NOT exist. So let's all put this issue to rest. No more
speculation please. Yes there will be those that won't believe this, but
don't tell me it exists until YOU can produce a copy of it (I just don't
care about this anymore). So yes, three TD fans CAN BE WRONG about The Keep
being released in 1984. Now go to sleep and get some rest.
Vic
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In a message dated 98-04-20 17:49:45 EDT, you write:
<< It's great to see some discussion of this new work from The Tangs, but
where in hell (or anywhere else for that matter) can I get my mitts on a
copy of it????? All attempts to buy this album have failed, much to my
misery and discontent...
Anyone know, or do you have to belong to some secret underground sect to
even sniff the cover?
Cheers folks
Nigel Merrick >>
I've been off-list for a while, but I thought I would return for a
bit of a update. I find it hard to believe that this 'Ambient Monkeys' disc is
so hard to find. Mine came from a relatively commonplace outlet - - Barnes and
Noble Books - - and they had quite a number of them at the time - - of course
that was several months ago, now. I went back there recently to see if they
had any of the more recent Klaus Schulze releases (no such luck!) and there
were nought but a few derelict TD recordings in the bin. Dusty ones at that.
Looks like Nigel is from my homeland, rather than where I live now,
in the USofA, so maybe there is reason for concern in the Common Market.
Phil Naunton
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> >Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott'
> >Courtesy of the US Copyright Office of the Library of Congress, I was
> >able to find the following entry:
> >TITL: The Keep / music by Tangerine Dream.
>
> Isn't this just the copyright to the film score (and not the released
> album)? I thought all film scores had to be copyrighted whether or
> not they were released in any format... (i.e. VISIONQUEST, FORBIDDEN,
> etc.)
>
> - jim
Quite so, Mr. Jimbo. Oh well Stevo...almost hehe.
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At 11:06 PM 4/20/1998 EDT, you wrote:
>Really-From: PNaunton
>
>
>In a message dated 98-04-20 17:49:45 EDT, you write:
>
> Anyone know, or do you have to belong to some secret underground sect to
> even sniff the cover?
>
>
> Nigel Merrick >>
>
Nigel, you might be able to do business with Dave Minton at Minnette Music
(800-238-2737). He DID have some, but that has been a while. Can't hurt to
call.
jp
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Nigel, oops, sorry, forgot you are not in the US. Minton's other number,
accessible from out of the country is 505-882-4830.
jp
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> Nigel, you might be able to do business with Dave Minton at Minnette
Music
> (800-238-2737). He DID have some, but that has been a while. Can't hurt
to
> call.
Is Minnette Music still active? Quite some time ago, I left several
messages on his voice mail, inquiring about releases (I did buy from him
previous to that). I never got a response, and this was MONTHS ago. How can
he expect to sell when he doesn't reply? No call, no cashola...
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At 10:29 PM 4/20/1998 -0700, you wrote:
>Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.'
>
>
>> Really-From: 'John M. Poer'
>> >
>> Nigel, you might be able to do business with Dave Minton at Minnette
>Music
>> (800-238-2737). He DID have some, but that has been a while. Can't hurt
>to
>> call.
>
>Is Minnette Music still active? Quite some time ago, I left several
>messages on his voice mail, inquiring about releases (I did buy from him
>previous to that). I never got a response, and this was MONTHS ago. How can
>he expect to sell when he doesn't reply? No call, no cashola...
>
>E-Man
You may be right, it's been a while since I heard from him. It was always
hard to communicate with him, but it was possible if you were persistent,
and he did get stuff that was hard to find.
He may be gone. Too bad.
jp
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Eli,
Try calling him at home at 1-505-882-4830. I am in regular contact with
Dave. In fact he just e-mailed me last week from his new job. Minette Music
is Alive and well.
THE HIGHLANDER
>Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.'
>
>
>> Really-From: 'John M. Poer'
>> >
>> Nigel, you might be able to do business with Dave Minton at Minnette
>Music
>> (800-238-2737). He DID have some, but that has been a while. Can't hurt
>to
>> call.
>
>Is Minnette Music still active? Quite some time ago, I left several
>messages on his voice mail, inquiring about releases (I did buy from him
>previous to that). I never got a response, and this was MONTHS ago. How can
>he expect to sell when he doesn't reply? No call, no cashola...
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>E-Man
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>
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Subject: Re: Macula Transfer - two versions?
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At 18:21 15-04-98 +0000, you wrote:
>Really-From: phil@h... (Philip Meyer)
>
>
>I just received a catalogue that says there are two new releases of Macula
>Transfer; the original album on CD via Mannikin Records (Germany), and also
>Virgin have released a version - allegedly remixed and remastered by
Tangerine
>Dream.
>
>Anyone know what the differences are? Is it worth getting both?
There has been talk of both. The Manikin version with all normal LP music
and a Virgin release, remixed, remastered, SBM or tangetized of that I'm
not sure. As you probably know the Manikin version is available and at this
moment there's no news about the Virgin version. It's possible that they
posponed it as it seems rather useless to release their version so shortly
after
Manikin.
Kees
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>It's great to see some discussion of this new work from The
Tangs, but
>where in hell (or anywhere else for that matter) can I get my
mitts on a
>copy of it????? All attempts to buy this album have failed,
much to my
>misery and discontent...
>Anyone know, or do you have to belong to some secret
underground sect to
>even sniff the cover?
I got mine from either CDNow or RPM. RPM, I think. They're at
http://www.rpmrecords.com.
Scott
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>care about this anymore). So yes, three TD fans CAN BE WRONG
about The Keep
>being released in 1984. Now go to sleep and get some rest.
Thanks, Vic, for the bad news. At least it puts the issue to
rest. But what did those people see? Were there bootlegs of the
soundtrack released that early?
Scott
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> Really-From: Robert Grabowsky
>
> Eli,
> Try calling him at home at 1-505-882-4830. I am in regular contact
with
> Dave. In fact he just e-mailed me last week from his new job. Minette
Music
> is Alive and well.
> THE HIGHLANDER
Thanks, Bob! I'll give Dave a ring and see if he's gettin' jiggy wit it!
;-)
You know, I never thanked you for that disc you sent me...but I am, now:
THANKS!!!
::E::
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Subject: td online april 22nd!!!!
Thought I might pass this along. Came from a friend in Colorado!
*******************************************************************
>>****************************************************
>>ONLINE 'RAVE' PARTY AND CHAT WITH TANGERINE DREAM
>>Wednesday, April 22 @ 8pm ET/5pm PT/1am UK time
>>****************************************************
>>
>>Log on for The Dominion's first online 'rave' party. Chat with other
>>sci-fi fans via our java applet while grooving to streaming videos
>>from Luminous Visions, a collection of cutting-edge animation by
>>Japanese video artist Yoichiro Kawaguchi scored with the music of
>>Tangerine Dream. Edgar & Jerome Froese of Tangerine Dream will be online
>>to discuss their latest projects as well as their 30+ years of music.
>>
>>For more information and a chance to win a Sony DVD player,
>>visit:
>>
>> http://www.scifi.com/rave/
>>
>>For more information about 'Luminous Visions' or other 'Mind's Eye'
>>video releases, visit:
>>
>> http://www.sonymusic.com/smv/mindseyepresents/
>>
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Subject: Re: Minette
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I have ordered stuff within the last month... I didn't know he had Ambient
Moneys and Timesquare. I got mine through rpmrecords (though they later
surfaced in a local shop)...
MJ
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Sorry fot the delayed response, but when is this movie coming out?
I would suspect the music to be more like TRANSFORMATION or CELESTINE than
B5!
MJ
NP: Haslinger: World Without Rules
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> Eli,
> Try calling him at home at 1-505-882-4830. I am in regular contact with
> Dave. In fact he just e-mailed me last week from his new job. Minette Music
> is Alive and well.
> THE HIGHLANDER
Well...maybe alive...I don't know about well. It's too hard to contact
Dave anymore. That and he's a tad flaky when it comes to trades &
getting packages out to you on time. Well, good luck to all who try.
Dano
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Subject: RE: Ambient Monkeys
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> I got mine from either CDNow or RPM. RPM, I think. They're at
> http://www.rpmrecords.com.
I checked the RPM catalogue last night, and Ambient Monkeys wasn't listed
anymore. They might be sold out...but it never hurts to ask.
SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator
T O P I X / Mad Dog
http://www.topix.com/~sean
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Subject: Re: The Keep: The Facts (so we can all rest)
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At 10:22 PM 4/20/98 -0400, 'Vic Tracey' wrote:
>Scott's research today prompted me to finally do my own research.
Thank you for your diligent detective work, Vic! I'm sure someone will
diagree with your findings, but, for one, am with you on this.
Mike
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Subject: Interesting Items on RPM
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Really-From: 'John M. Poer'
I just took a look at RPM's site and found, not EO, but some other
interesting entries:
Tangerine Dream- (Baumann,Peter- Phase by Phase)..........$14.99
Tangerine Dream- (Jolliffe, Steve- Temmenu)..........$19.99
Tangerine Dream- Underwater Moonlight..........$16.99
Now, I know I'm never the first to find out about anything, but I've NEVER
heard of these titles.
'Phase by Phase'???
'Underwater MOONLIGHT' ???
and the Joliffe entry is totally unknown to me.
Are these typos, or are these real....ahh...NEW.....items, or have I just
been staggering around in the dark again.
I'll take the flames if these have all been discussed to death already, but
I'd sure like to know if they are something I should have already known about.
Thanks.
jp
'I may be old, but I know what I like!'
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Subject: PooBahs Records and Electronic Orgy
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Hi again,
Just in case, I called PooBahs in Pasadena, and they said they had carried
EO but didn't have it now.
They tried to call their distributor while I was on the phone with them but
couldn't get an answer to whether or not they could get more. They promised
to call me back. Past history would indicate that they will.
If you don't already know, these guys are a very good source of unusual stuff.
They have all the various modes of communication:
phone: 626-449-3359
e-mail: poobah@c...
web page: http://commline.com/poobah/
fax: (626)449-7726
They do special order, mail order, etc. They've been in business in
Pasadena for 20 years and they are dependable and honest.
I'll let you know if they say they can get more 'Electronic Orgy'.
Hope this helps someone.
jp
'I may be old, but I know what I like!'
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Subject: PooBahs Records and Ambient Monkeys
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At 11:47 AM 4/21/1998 -0700, I wrote:
>
>
>Hi again,
>
>Just in case, I called PooBahs in Pasadena, and they said they had carried
>EO but didn't have it now.
>
>They tried to call their distributor while I was on the phone with them but
>couldn't get an answer to whether or not they could get more. They promised
>to call me back. Past history would indicate that they will.
>
>If you don't already know, these guys are a very good source of unusual
stuff.
>
>They have all the various modes of communication:
>
>phone: 626-449-3359
>e-mail: poobah@c...
>web page: http://commline.com/poobah/
>fax: (626)449-7726
>
>They do special order, mail order, etc. They've been in business in
>Pasadena for 20 years and they are dependable and honest.
>
>I'll let you know if they say they can get more 'Electronic Orgy'.
>
>Hope this helps someone.
>
>
I just realized that the original 'search' was for 'Ambient Monkeys' and
not EO....so I called Poobahs back. They're going to check on that one too.
They said it would take longer to get because it's an import but that it
was probably still obtainable.
Give 'em a call or an e-mail.
jp
'I may be old, but I know what I like!'
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Date: Tue Apr 21, 1998 8:14
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Subject: Synergy releases
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Really-From: Snowdog747
Though not direct TD content, I am sure many may be interested. I was able to
purchase two of the re-released Synergy cd's, 'Cords' and 'Electronic
Realizations for Rock Orchestra'. They were actually at a Best Buy here in
Indianapolis. I have listened to 'Cords' and it is excellent(had it on LP but
can't find it, its been years since I had heard it). Both have interesting
liner notes on the recordings. The 'Electronic Realizations..' cd was mixed
using QS4 quad and the liner notes state that the quad will decode with
varying degrees of success on home-theater systems. I will have to try it out
when I get home. The 'Sequencer' release was also listed as available but not
on hand. I have always enjoyed the LP version of 'Games' and 'Metropolitan
Suite' is one of my favorite non-TD releases.
Well, back to lurking in the shadows.
Ben
NP: Synergy 'Electronic Realizations on my small office stereo not bad.....
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Subject: For The TD Completist
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Really-From: Sean Montgomery
For those of you who must have *everything* TD, the track 'Touchwood'
appears on a New Age compilation from Rhino Records, called 'New
Visions: Celestial Voyagers'. TD shares the disc with Brian Eno, Mike
Oldfield, Michael Stearns, Clannad, Patrick O'Hearn, Vangelis and others.
It should be out now. So break out those healing crystals, and find your
inner child.
SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator
T O P I X / Mad Dog
http://www.topix.com/~sean
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Subject: Bootlegs
I'm looking for sources of TD bootlegs. Pls e-mail me privately if you
can help.
Thanks
Steve Jenkins
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Date: Tue Apr 21, 1998 8:44
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Subject: Mail Delivery Problem
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Sorry tadream@c... Your mail to PNaunton could not be delivered because
PNaunton is not accepting mail with attachments
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also looking for dream boots
sriser3600@a...
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Subject: td ONLINE
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Really-From: KRAUSENECKS
Hi ,
Is there anyone here who can save a transription of the conversation on the
Sci Fi Dominion site. I will be out of town- :( , and want to see what was
discussed. Perhaps someone with more computer etiquette could make a copy and
the rest of us could read it later? Please let me know .
Thanks-Viva Gordita!
Chris
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I believe he means 'cookies', Snacks......rare imports-he SURELY can't be
speaking of ILLEGAL recording's...could he fella's?????
Chris
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Subject: Re: SV: Stuntman
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In a message dated 98-04-17 15:06:45 EDT, you write:
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I saw a stuntman vinyl in a recordshop, and I was wondering if it is worth
picking up? >>
Get it if for no other reason than the photography on the cover; but the
music is pretty good too. Dell
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Subject: Re STUNTMAN
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>Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 21:11:41 EDT
>Subject: Re: SV: Stuntman
>From: tadream mailing list
>Really-From: AOutland
>
> Really-From: 'Alexander Bjelke'
>
>>I saw a stuntman vinyl in a recordshop, and I was wondering if it is
>>worth picking up?
>
> Get it if for no other reason than the photography on the cover;
>but the music is pretty good too. Dell
I'd say that it's his second best album (the first being EPSILON
IN MALAYSIAN PALE).
Also, if you get a first pressing of this LP, the liner is a thick
carboard sleeve with about 40 small color photographs of Edgar on each
side (that makes a total of about 80 pics!).
-- Steven Feldman
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Subject: Request for Cyberchat Netiquette Primer
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Really-From: Steven Feldman
For this cyberchat with TD slated for 8pm tomorrow night at the
Sci-fi Network's website , what is the
netiquette/procedure re waiting one's turn to speak? I tried a chat
for the very first time yesterday for practice (at the scifi.com site)
and it occurred to me that this cyberchat could well turn out to be a
cacophonous event -- with all manner of threads/conversations being
carried on simultaneously.
Will this event have a moderator? How do cyberchats with rock
groups and their fans go, generally?
There are six questions I'd like to ask Eddy 'n' Jerry:
o If and when Edgar actually quits the band in the year 2000, who is/
are most likely to be Jerome's choice(s) for replacement(s) -- in
the short-term and/or the long-term?
o Supposedly, there were about 60 hours (!) of music composed for the
STREETHAWK TV show. What are the chances of a 2-CD set of the
highlights from these sessions?
o What are the chances of TDI re-releasing THE MAN INSIDE soundtrack
-- which was only briefly released in 1990 by EMI in France?
o What is meant by the TDI re-release of QUINOA being 'album-length'?
o Did Chris Franke participate in the preparation of any of the songs
for the DREAM ROOTS compilation album?
o Was it Edgar or Johannes Schmoelling who played the piano solo on
the PERGAMON excerpt that is on the TANGENTS compilation?
+ What color is Molasar's underpants? (Heh, just checking to see if
you're awake.)
-- Steven Feldman
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Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59
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Subject: The Keep: The Facts (Nice Try--Not!)
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>Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 22:22:21 -0400 (EDT)
>Subject: Re: The Keep: The Facts (so we can all rest)
>From: tadream mailing list
>Really-From: Vic Rek
>
>I [. . .] called Famous Music Corp. (in New York City) and spoke to the
>head guy there [. . .]
Was he working for the company in 1983-1984. Thought not. ;) :(
>Looking at this, I can only conclude (as I have in the past), this
>soundtrack DOES NOT exist. So let's all put this issue to rest. No more
>speculation please. [. . .]
Bad word choice ('speculation'). I am not speculating when I go on
a rant about having seen a copy of THE KEEP soundtrack in 1984. It is a
fact. If you have a problem believing that, it's your problem. Don't
go jumping to conclusions just because the head of a company tells you
something. Maybe he -- like Edgar -- is just giving you the party-line
spiel.
I really didn't want to say anything re this stuff on the list,
but the stridency of your claim of what is and is not factual in the
context of my 'quest' made me get up on my hind legs again. Sorry.
-- Steven Feldman
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Subject: Re: The Keep (Not Really)
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On Wed, 22 Apr 1998 01:36:04 EDT, you wrote:
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>
>Although this thread has been beaten to death, I must add something. Back in
>1977, I saw a motion picture called 'Star Wars' that changed my life forever.
>I started collecting everything I could get my hands on. Months before
>'Return of the Jedi' was released, I was lucky enough to come across a
>'Revenge of the Jedi' one sheet, which was the original title. I have spoken
>with many 'Star Wars' fans who don't believe I have this poster, but it is
>hanging right in front of me as I type. In fact, I've been offered $1200 for
>it. My original 12 inch Darth Vader, mint in box, is worth an estimated $500.
>I think I paid 15 bucks for it. As far as 'The Keep' is concerned, I can't
>comment. But when Steven finally finds it, I believe it will be his Lost Ark.
>Remember what happened to that? Thank you for listening, I now return you to
>your regularly scheduled rants....David
As a kid, I had an original Dalek, but I threw it out 'cause I was
bored playing with it (they're now worth a grand or so). I also had an
original 'yellow submarine' but it got thrown out as well (they're
worth a few hundred these days).
I think I owned a copy of the Keep a decade ago, but threw it out
because it was scratched.
----
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Really-From: DAVENTURA
Although this thread has been beaten to death, I must add something. Back in
1977, I saw a motion picture called 'Star Wars' that changed my life forever.
I started collecting everything I could get my hands on. Months before
'Return of the Jedi' was released, I was lucky enough to come across a
'Revenge of the Jedi' one sheet, which was the original title. I have spoken
with many 'Star Wars' fans who don't believe I have this poster, but it is
hanging right in front of me as I type. In fact, I've been offered $1200 for
it. My original 12 inch Darth Vader, mint in box, is worth an estimated $500.
I think I paid 15 bucks for it. As far as 'The Keep' is concerned, I can't
comment. But when Steven finally finds it, I believe it will be his Lost Ark.
Remember what happened to that? Thank you for listening, I now return you to
your regularly scheduled rants....David
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On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, tadream mailing list wrote:
> Really-From: Michael A Jean
> I have ordered stuff within the last month... I didn't know he had Ambient
> Moneys and Timesquare. I got mine through rpmrecords (though they later
> surfaced in a local shop)...
> MJ
You lucky guy ! I ordered TS and AM in december last year by RPM records
and I didn't get anything until today ! Maybe these people can't deliver
outside the US ! ;-(
Rainer Rutka
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Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.'
> Really-From: Steven Feldman
>
> There are six questions I'd like to ask Eddy 'n' Jerry:
Got answers to two of 'em for ya:
> o Did Chris Franke participate in the preparation of any of the songs
> for the DREAM ROOTS compilation album?
Affirmative :-)
> o Was it Edgar or Johannes Schmoelling who played the piano solo on
> the PERGAMON excerpt that is on the TANGENTS compilation?
Ed. It's a re-recording. I think Johannes performed the original.
E-Man
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>Really-From: mlivsey@i... (Michael Livsey)
>
>
>I think I owned a copy of the Keep a decade ago, but threw it out
>because it was scratched.
Is that what hit me on the head while I was taking out the trash? Damn...
::E::
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Really-From: Craig Cordrey 01383 821921
>Really-From: 'John M. Poer'
>
>Tangerine Dream- (Baumann,Peter- Phase by Phase)..........$14.99
A Virgin vault copilation release, including tracks from Pete's solo albums.
BTW, it's rare to see the UK get the better of the pricing deal - it only costs
Ģ6-99 over here, so $15 is pretty steep. Import, I assume.
>Tangerine Dream- (Jolliffe, Steve- Temmenu)..........$19.99
This is a re-release of another Jolliffe album (Voices, is that right?), which
has been segued into a single piece. If you want it, I'll sell you mine.
>Tangerine Dream- Underwater Moonlight..........$16.99
Pass.
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Subject: D: The Keep(?)
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Really-From: PENFOLD
I say. If and when this puppy *ever* gets released
I had this thought:
Will the discussion of the release go away. What will Steve do?
(I can't keep up w/ Dano & co, but I can still try.....)
Pete
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'We throw each piece of equipment three times out of the third floor of our
studio complex. If it's still functioning properly, we'll take it on the
road. If not, we send it back to Tokyo!...'
-- Edgar Froese (founder of Tangerine Dream), on the easy way TD decides
on which instruments to take on the road.
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Subject: Full Length Quinoa
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Really-From: Michael A Jean
Hermes mentioned previously that the original info for the fanclub release
in 92 said that the disc could contain more than 40 minutes of
music...When it came out it only had 28 minutes... It is pointless to
speculate what it might contain, but Hermes suggested it MIGHT be the
Easter Island track...
MJ
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Really-From: 'Dan J. Schulte'
> Really-From: Vic Rek
>
> >Really-From: Steven Feldman
> >>Really-From: Vic Rek
>
> [...]
> > Bad word choice ('speculation'). I am not speculating when I go on
> >a rant about having seen a copy of THE KEEP soundtrack in 1984. It is a
> >fact. If you have a problem believing that, it's your problem. Don't
> >go jumping to conclusions just because the head of a company tells you
> >something. Maybe he -- like Edgar -- is just giving you the party-line
> >spiel.
>
> I think that the man I spoke with was with Famous Music before you wore
> diapers. I will not mention names. Secondly, everyone called ME back and
> discussed the issue, so there was an open discussion (this can happen, even
> in the case of The Keep). Haven't you done this simple research which took
> only half a day to complete? I know why you didn't do this simple inquiry,
> because YOU don't want to know the facts and you think this damn album is
> some kind of music business cult conspiracy. Maybe you and your 2 other TD
> affidavits saw a cardboard promo sheet for the upcoming release (in cassete
> maybe too)? Haven't you seen these things? But if the LP wasn't released,
> then the cardboard displays went away and so did The Keep. Maybe that's why
> nobody could buy it, because it was just a piece of cardboard (at best).
> Chill Steven, you have better news to contribute I'm sure. I no longer need
> to hear about this quest of yours, sorry. Show us the album, or just be
> mute. If you're pissed, so be it!
>
> Your friend,
> Vic
Okay, being one of the very few (perhaps the only one here) who deals
exclusively with soundtracks/OST producers/hardcore OST collectors/OST
music labels including Varese, Silva Screen, Sony, etc, etc I think my
point is valid here. (OST means original soundtrack BTW). I'm not
bragging about being in this business like Stevie wants you to think.
I'm only saying that I know people who have been collecting soundtracks
before Stevo was even a sperm in his dad's...er...you know. I know
several experts who know about ALL OST's released, bootlegged, promos,
etc, etc. NONE have ever seen a Keep LP...because it does not exist. I
know several producers as well who have vehemently denied the production
of such an LP. Now, I also have heard, courtesy of certain producers,
hundreds of unreleased film scores.....and if the Keep existed it would
have escaped into the public's grasp some way or another. I find it
impossible to believe that you know more about what was released and
what wasn't soundtrack wise over what these respected producers know.
Let it go dude....just let it go. Sleep!!! You're wrong! Accept it! If I
say any more I'll just end up hurting your feelings...so that's it..I'm
done on this subject...
Dano-out!
Dano
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Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott'
>Oh yeah? Like, you try to imply that perhaps we drive too slow
or
>something? Perhaps you should try to keep up with me in my
1997
>Mustang GT while I play TD's Dolphin Dance on my cassette
player?
>(With a still undisclosed number of police officers in pursuit
>trying to stop me... ;-) Try THAT in one of L.A.'s congested
>highway at rush hour!!!
Apparently you don't live in Toronto.
Scott
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Subject: Re: The Keep (Not Really)
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Really-From: 'Dan J. Schulte'
> >Although this thread has been beaten to death, I must add something. Back in
> >1977, I saw a motion picture called 'Star Wars' that changed my life forever.
> >I started collecting everything I could get my hands on. Months before
> >'Return of the Jedi' was released, I was lucky enough to come across a
> >'Revenge of the Jedi' one sheet, which was the original title. I have spoken
> >with many 'Star Wars' fans who don't believe I have this poster, but it is
> >hanging right in front of me as I type.
This is odd considering the 'Revenge' poster is fairly common (worth
only about $200...in fact..sold one a few months ago). There are
pictures of this poster in every Star Wars collectable book. You must
have some fairly geeky friends if they don't believe you have it, cuz
it's easy to prove that it exists. As for The Keep..I have yet to see
one single picture....funny how all other TD fans are the same
way...except for the tards who have claimed to have seen it.
In fact, I've been offered $1200 for
> >it. My original 12 inch Darth Vader, mint in box, is worth an estimated
$500.
> >I think I paid 15 bucks for it. As far as 'The Keep' is concerned, I can't
> >comment. But when Steven finally finds it, I believe it will be his Lost
Ark.
You mean pacifier, don't you?
Dano
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I just ordered a copy from Eurock. http://www.eurock.com
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> I HEARD SOME TIME BACK ABOUT MACULA TRANSFER BEING RELEASED ON CD
> HAS THIS HAPPENED YET ////?????
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Date: Wed Apr 22, 1998 4:42
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Subject: Fwd: Annc: Film Music Network May 4 Event Info (LA)
FYI
From:
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Subject: Annc: Film Music Network May 4 Event Info (LA)
To: FILMUS-L@L...
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The focus of our next event on Monday, May 4, 1998 is MUSIC FOR
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>
> tadream mailing list wrote:
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> >
> >
> > Chris-the pissed off Carpet man with no money who has to miss the TD
> > conference on the Dominion cuz he has to go to a Goddamn carpet
> > meeting in Friggin canada and could give a shit less- Chouinard
>
> Some of us, living in this country, may take offence to our place of
> birth being referred as 'Friggin', capital 'F' or not...
> After all *we* did NOT invent C&W 'music'... and I bet there are
> proportionally more TD fans in out population than in the US of A.
>
> ;-)
>
> C.B. Vincent Goudreault
I think he's just reffering to the distance factor being a pain in the
ass....it was hardly a territory slam...especially relating to the
people there. It's not like he said that Canadians drive too slow or
anything. ;-)
Dano, eh.
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I HEARD SOME TIME BACK ABOUT MACULA TRANSFER BEING RELEASED ON CD
HAS THIS HAPPENED YET ////?????
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tadream mailing list wrote:
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> Really-From: 'Dan J. Schulte'
>
> tadream mailing list wrote:
> >
> > Really-From: Vincent Goudreault
> >
> > tadream mailing list wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Chris-the pissed off Carpet man with no money who has to miss the TD
> > > conference on the Dominion cuz he has to go to a Goddamn carpet
> > > meeting in Friggin canada and could give a shit less- Chouinard
> >
> > Some of us, living in this country, may take offence to our place of
> > birth being referred as 'Friggin', capital 'F' or not...
> > After all *we* did NOT invent C&W 'music'... and I bet there are
> > proportionally more TD fans in out population than in the US of A.
> >
> > ;-)
> >
> > C.B. Vincent Goudreault
>
> I think he's just reffering to the distance factor being a pain in the
> ass....it was hardly a territory slam...especially relating to the
> people there. It's not like he said that Canadians drive too slow or
> anything. ;-)
>
> Dano, eh.
*joke mode ON*
Oh yeah? Like, you try to imply that perhaps we drive too slow or
something? Perhaps you should try to keep up with me in my 1997
Mustang GT while I play TD's Dolphin Dance on my cassette player?
(With a still undisclosed number of police officers in pursuit
trying to stop me... ;-) Try THAT in one of L.A.'s congested
highway at rush hour!!!
*joke mode off*
(whisper: Dan, I hope you noticed the smily after my original post,
yes? Actually, what really offended me was the Chris didn't
write Canada with the capital 'C'... NOT. Now, joke mode REALLY
off...)
;-)
C hey B hey Vincent hey Goudreault, hey
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Subject: The Keep (YES, Really)
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Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.'
I Have another thing to comment here.
I don't understand why some people here try to ban a perfectly on topic
theme.
Maybe it was discussed to death, but
the Keep stuff isn't breaking any thought line at all.
messages on this list because the subject line doesn't
touch my curiosity or I have enough of it.
let's be a little democratic and tolerant. I love this list even if it really
interest me no more than 10% of the normal traffic.
--- Francisco
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Date: Wed Apr 22, 1998 7:11
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Subject: [Fwd: THE KEEP ( YES, Really)]
From:
'Francisco Salgado C.'
Date: Wed Apr 22, 1998 6:45
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Subject: THE KEEP ( YES, Really)
To: tadream mailing list
Message posted again. The former was cut by the virtual dimension.
I Have another thing to comment here.
I don't understand why some people here try to ban a perfectly on topic
theme.
Maybe it was discussed to death, but
the Keep stuff isn't breaking any thought line at all.
messages on this list because the subject line doesn't
touch my curiosity or I have enough of it.
let's be a little democratic and tolerant. I love this list even if it really
interest me no more than 10% of the normal traffic.
--- Francisco
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Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.'
Message posted again. The former was cut by the virtual dimension.
I Have another thing to comment here.
I don't understand why some people here try to ban a perfectly on topic
theme.
Maybe it was discussed to death, but
the Keep stuff isn't breaking any thought line at all.
messages on this list because the subject line doesn't
touch my curiosity or I have enough of it.
let's be a little democratic and tolerant. I love this list even if it really
interest me no more than 10% of the normal traffic.
--- Francisco
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Date: Wed Apr 22, 1998 11:53
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Subject: cyberchat
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Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...>
can anyone record this cyber chat to cdr or cassette? is this possible?
if someone can get a tape or cdr, please let me know and we can work a
trade.
thanks
lars
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tadream mailing list wrote:
>
>
>
> Chris-the pissed off Carpet man with no money who has to miss the TD
> conference on the Dominion cuz he has to go to a Goddamn carpet
> meeting in Friggin canada and could give a shit less- Chouinard
Some of us, living in this country, may take offence to our place of
birth being referred as 'Friggin', capital 'F' or not...
After all *we* did NOT invent C&W 'music'... and I bet there are
proportionally more TD fans in out population than in the US of A.
;-)
C.B. Vincent Goudreault
autonomously breathing since 11:50 AM EST February 17 1957
online since early 1993, TD fan since 1977
first exposure: Stratosfear, fave albums: Rubycon/Ricochet