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<MESSAGE index="36323">
From: 

'orangefunk_2000' <orangefunk_2000@y...> 
Date:  Sun Sep 22, 2002  3:50
pm
Subject:  Re: Part 2 of Synapse 1978 March / April interview


this sounded like a good post until you mentioned lower and higher 
levels.. (I guess meaning Edgar higher?) I don't split the two 
myslef.. only good music and bad..

And lets face it both have made their fair share of duds..

What I don't really like is this idea of EF and TD thinking they were 
the first to use sequencers (they weren't) and that somehow noone 
else can use them...

I love TD but I've really disliked their interview styles from day 
one..


--- In tadream@y..., 'Administrator' <admin@k...> wrote:
> A glimpse into the mind of Edgar.
> 
> Then again GM has his ideas too. When taken as a whole, it is all 
art. Some
> choose a lower level, others a higher. Who is to say which is right 
or wrong
> or just is?
> 
> dale
> 
>


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<MESSAGE index="36324">
From: 

Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Sun Sep 22, 2002  7:31
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] CAT PEOPLE


Reggie Bannister is going to be on with me and Lou on
the Program. Get with me privately.

Wade
--- Admin <admin@k...> wrote:
> If you need some material for Phantasm, let me know.
> I have a inside lead on
> that movie.
> Dale
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Wade Gordon' <mindvoyager1@y...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 6:08 AM
> Subject: Re: [tadream] CAT PEOPLE
> 
> 
> > Actually, that is the first track from the c.d.
> and
> > the program will feature that disc and 'Midnight
> > Express' all music except the wacked out vocals.
> > This is starting next week and building towards
> > Halloween. I will also play two hours of music
> from
> > Universal Horror movies and the B-movies of the
> 50's
> > and 70's ending with 'Phamtasm.'
> >
> > This all begins next Monday on 'Sound Explorer.'
> >
> >
> > --- Administrator <admin@k...> wrote:
> > > I see you are putting out the fire with
> gasoline?
> > >
> > > dale
> > >
> > > ;-)
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: 'Wade Gordon' <mindvoyager1@y...>
> > > To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 1:15 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [tadream] CAT PEOPLE
> > >
> > >
> > > > If you would like to hear the ost of 'Cat
> People'
> > > it
> > > > will be running this week on 'Sound Explorer>'
> > > >
> > > > Wade
> > > > --- scfeldman@j... wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 18:47:25 +0100
> 'fozziebear'
> > > > > <fozziebear.beehive@b...> writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Is there any connection between MORODER /
> > > > > CATPEOPLE
> > > > > > and David Bowie and Catpeople?
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes. They're the same thing. The
> album
> > > > > version has one
> > > > > more verse than the single version.
> > > > >
> > > > > > David
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> > > > >
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<MESSAGE index="36325">
From: 

'Colin Jouxson' <convention24@y...> 
Date:  Sun Sep 22, 2002  8:03
pm
Subject:  Off Topic - Inferno in UK


I have heard some rumours lately of TD perfoming Inferno in the 
UK,this would be an absolute treat,please come and see us again 
TD,Shepherds Bush 12,05,02 seems a long time ago,Royal Albert Hall 
would be a perfect venue,heres hoping.

Best regards
Colin South Wales UK


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<MESSAGE index="36326">
From: 

'Colin Jouxson' <convention24@y...> 
Date:  Sun Sep 22, 2002  8:07
pm
Subject:  Re: Froese's AGES (was Moroder - Metropolis)


--- In tadream@y..., scfeldman@j... wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 02:49:47 -0400 quarlie@a... writes:
> 
> > Don't forget Edgar's solo track 'Metropolis' (from 'Ages'), which 
> > was exactly that.
> > 
> > BTW, does anyone else think that album deserves more attention 
than 
> > it gets?
> 
> Not me. The final track, 'Pizarro and Atahualpa,' is great, 
and
> 'Ode to Annie A' is good, but the rest is mostly pretty mediocre.
> 
> Steven Feldman
Ages Mediocre,i think not,CLASSIC album with the awesome Tropic of 
Carricorn,Icarus and Metropolis this is a GEM.


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<MESSAGE index="36327">
From: 
Synthhtnys@a... 
Date:  Sun Sep 22, 2002  9:04
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Froese's AGES (was Moroder - Metropolis)


In a message dated 9/22/2002 1:38:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
convention24@y... writes:


> Ages Mediocre,i think not,CLASSIC album with the awesome Tropic of 
> Carricorn,Icarus and Metropolis this is a GEM.
> 

*Mmmm I'm afraid I have to put my vote in for Ages being rather mediocre... I 
think mostly because of the second-rate guitar playing.
Poly


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<MESSAGE index="36328">
From: 

'Glenn Folkvord - Hyperion Media' <glenn@f...> 
Date:  Sun Sep 22, 2002  8:38
pm
Subject:  OT: Jarre tribute album released now


Hey,

I am pleased to finally announce the release of the first completely
fan-made tribute album dedicated to Jean Michel Jarre, 'Jarre Forever'.
Having been in the works for four years, it was finally launched on
September 7th, and is now being sold at www.jarretribute.com

«Jarre Forever» core facts:
2 CDs with 76 and 77 minutes playing time
28 remixes of Jarre's music and one original composition
23 artists from 14 countries
Professionally pressed - not a CDR
Special price - around 30% off compared to normal Norwegian prices
A range of styles from techno, ambient and industrial rock to classical,
space-electronica and Jarre clones

At www.jarretribute.com you will find soundclips of all the songs, artist
information & links, project background and ordering instructions. You can
order online or use the PDF order forms available in English, Spanish,
French and Scandinavian languages.

The artist list is: From Norway: Henrik Huste, Digital Soul, Thomas Enger,
SynthaxError. From Sweden: Rikard Latvala, Björn Fogelberg, Peter
Holgersson, Magnus Malmgren, Master Zap. From Finland: Markku Klami. From
Russia: Min Gys. From Germany: Villa-Project and Steffen Schuhrke. From
France: Julien Alexandre. From Austria: Jupiter 8. From Scotland: Andy
Vask'El. From Canada: Daniel Kuciel. From USA: Craig Padilla. From Japan:
Intelligentsia. From Italy: Andrea Priora. From Hungary: Raven. From
Australia: Bill Canty and Miguel Ettema / Stuart James.

You are invited to visit www.jarretribute.com and learn more about 'Jarre
Forever', a CD completely made by fans of Jean Michel Jarre.

Released by Hyperion Media.

Glenn


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<MESSAGE index="36329">
From: 

'Admin' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Sun Sep 22, 2002  10:35
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] computer crash


It's a killer. I know... I just keep watching the to field when I post or
off list.

dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Nick Adams' <Nicad@n...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 2:02 AM
Subject: Re: [tadream] computer crash


>
> > > hi
> > > due to a computer hard drive failure i have lost all my contacts,
> > > please email me so i can add you to my address book, i can also not
> > > get windows XP to install so any trades for DVDs will be on hold for
> > > a few days.
> >
>
> Shit, that was supposed to be off list.........groan!
>
> Nick
>
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<MESSAGE index="36330">
From: 

'Admin' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Sun Sep 22, 2002  10:36
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Part 2 of Synapse 1978 March / April interview


What about the WHO?

I am just not sure they where the first. You are going to have to do some
research in that one.

dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'orangefunk_2000' <orangefunk_2000@y...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 8:50 AM
Subject: [tadream] Re: Part 2 of Synapse 1978 March / April interview


> this sounded like a good post until you mentioned lower and higher
> levels.. (I guess meaning Edgar higher?) I don't split the two
> myslef.. only good music and bad..
>
> And lets face it both have made their fair share of duds..
>
> What I don't really like is this idea of EF and TD thinking they were
> the first to use sequencers (they weren't) and that somehow noone
> else can use them...
>
> I love TD but I've really disliked their interview styles from day
> one..
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In tadream@y..., 'Administrator' <admin@k...> wrote:
> > A glimpse into the mind of Edgar.
> >
> > Then again GM has his ideas too. When taken as a whole, it is all
> art. Some
> > choose a lower level, others a higher. Who is to say which is right
> or wrong
> > or just is?
> >
> > dale
> >
> >
>
>
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<MESSAGE index="36331">
From: 

'John Marchington' <johnm@p...> 
Date:  Mon Sep 23, 2002  1:52
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Froese's AGES (was Moroder - Metropolis)


I personally don't rate it as highly as 'Macula Transfer'.

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Colin Jouxson' <convention24@y...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 8:07 AM
Subject: [tadream] Re: Froese's AGES (was Moroder - Metropolis)


> --- In tadream@y..., scfeldman@j... wrote:
> > On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 02:49:47 -0400 quarlie@a... writes:
> >
> > > Don't forget Edgar's solo track 'Metropolis' (from 'Ages'), which
> > > was exactly that.
> > >
> > > BTW, does anyone else think that album deserves more attention
> than
> > > it gets?
> >
> > Not me. The final track, 'Pizarro and Atahualpa,' is great,
> and
> > 'Ode to Annie A' is good, but the rest is mostly pretty mediocre.
> >
> > Steven Feldman
> Ages Mediocre,i think not,CLASSIC album with the awesome Tropic of
> Carricorn,Icarus and Metropolis this is a GEM.
>
>
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<MESSAGE index="36332">
From: 

Marko Marin <rubyconist@y...> 
Date:  Mon Sep 23, 2002  9:07
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Off-topic: Tres Lunas


Tres Lunas (or Tr3s Lunas as it is spelled in the
cover) is really Voyager, Tubular Bells 3 and Guitars
mixed together (not that it's a bad thing). Missing is
only the huge finales from Tubular Bells and the
non-digital style of Voyager. There are no Great
Themes that I'm aware but I think this album will grow
on me in time.

01. Misty
Saxophone guitar is here and it sounds... well, like a
sax.

02. No Mans Land
One of the best tracks.

03. Return To The Origin
There is a really cool 'organ'-melody here (propably a
synth), some digital samples, restrained guitar solos
and stuff like that.

04. Landfall
Pretty much same as the previous but no heavy
drumbeats, but a light sequence instead.

05. Viper
Starts with a simple piano-melody and some synths
playing in top of it. Soon the drumbeat starts. New
loops appear, until the beat is gone and the guitar
burst out something so that the drums can start all
over.

06. Turtle Island
Use of acoustic guitar brings some variation into the
album. The synth background does it's thing. The sax
guitar makes the second appearance.

07. To Be Free
The beginning, the rythm background reminds of
something (perhaps it's the tune from the Robin
Williams/Robert De Niro -movie The Awakenings...)
Anyway, the female singer is much better than the
cursed Pepsi who appeared in The Millenium Bell and
the live premiere of TB3. A bit too pop-esque to my
liking.

08. Fire Fly
Flurry and cute sequences builds up the track in a
certain point. Piano makes appearances here and there.

09. Tr3s Lunas
The title track offers some funkier stuff but the
sound is still the same old. Guitars, drums, rythms...

10. Daydream
Has almost a touching melody played with a piano and a
guitar. Calm track.

11. Thou Art In Heaven
Well, this track contains some cheesy samples where
'thou art in heaven' is repeated again and again (with
a strange clicks and clacks from the throath...).
The music itself is similar to the title track.

12. Sirius
Starts with a whirling sound and some muffy drums.
This is one of the best tracks here actually with a
nice laid back guitar and piano.

13. No Mans Land (Reprise)
The same as the previous No Mans Land except there's
no heavy beat around.

14. To Be Free (Radio Edit)
The same as the previous To Be Free except it's a bit
shorter.

Regards,
Marko Marin

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<MESSAGE index="36333">
From: 

Dan Downey <djambient@y...> 
Date:  Mon Sep 23, 2002  1:02
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] computer crash


So we shouldn't all start sending you stuff at that
address?
- D
--- Nick Adams <Nicad@n...> wrote:
> 
> > > hi
> > > due to a computer hard drive failure i have lost
> all my contacts, 
> > > please email me so i can add you to my address
> book, i can also not 
> > > get windows XP to install so any trades for DVDs
> will be on hold for 
> > > a few days.
> > 
> 
> Shit, that was supposed to be off
> list.........groan!
> 
> Nick
> 
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> 
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<MESSAGE index="36334">
From: 

'Nick Adams' <Nicad@n...> 
Date:  Mon Sep 23, 2002  1:29
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] computer crash


From: 'Dan Downey' <djambient@y...>

> So we shouldn't all start sending you stuff at that
> address?
> - D

Send me what you want, i cant guarantee anything in return though :-) A new
wife would go down well actually ;-)

Nick

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<MESSAGE index="36335">
From: 

'braddito' <toby.braddick@u...> 
Date:  Mon Sep 23, 2002  2:49
pm
Subject:  Re: Froese's AGES (was Moroder - Metropolis)


There's some stuff that I enjoy on this set and some that doesn't get 
me interested - in my opinion it could have been a great single album.

Toby

--- In tadream@y..., 'John Marchington' <johnm@p...> wrote:
> I personally don't rate it as highly as 'Macula Transfer'.
> > > Not me. The final track, 'Pizarro and Atahualpa,' is 
great,
> > and
> > > 'Ode to Annie A' is good, but the rest is mostly pretty 
mediocre.
> > >
> > > Steven Feldman
> > Ages Mediocre,i think not,CLASSIC album with the awesome Tropic of
> > Carricorn,Icarus and Metropolis this is a GEM.


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<MESSAGE index="36336">
From: 

'tei waz' <teiwazbarana@h...> 
Date:  Mon Sep 23, 2002  3:29
pm
Subject:  re: building towards Halloween


re: building towards Halloween

Same here--watched the Near Dark DVD over the weekend.

thanks for the heads up on the release....

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<MESSAGE index="36337">
From: 

'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Mon Sep 23, 2002  4:30
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] computer crash


rrrrrr r r r
everybody needs more than one do they?

rrrr makes me wonder... that it does

pass me another one of those ales and me thinks a bit more about more than
one.....

even a replacment would be a something to scratch me nogin about... rrrrr to
much to think...

rrr rrrrrrr rrrr

;--)
me patchs a itchy on this...

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Nick Adams' <Nicad@n...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 6:29 AM
Subject: Re: [tadream] computer crash


> From: 'Dan Downey' <djambient@y...>
>
> > So we shouldn't all start sending you stuff at that
> > address?
> > - D
>
> Send me what you want, i cant guarantee anything in return though :-) A
new
> wife would go down well actually ;-)
>
> Nick
>
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>
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<MESSAGE index="36338">
From: 

<heiko@o...> 
Date:  Mon Sep 23, 2002  6:38
pm
Subject:  signed Cd for sale !!!


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<MESSAGE index="36339">
From: 

Ivan Yerkedoff <tandreamelp@y...> 
Date:  Mon Sep 23, 2002  10:21
pm
Subject:  Near Dark DVD


Hi to all. I just got the Near Dark DVD and after
seeing it I wonder, Where's any extra info in it about
the soundtrack? I was hoping for a little extra music
or an little peek into the making of the music with
Edgar, ( althought the storyboards with the original
soundtrack was nice.) And where was Jenny Wright. It
would have nice to see what's up with her now. ;-) 

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<MESSAGE index="36340">
From: 

Peter Prisekin aka Dusty Chalk <dusty@p...> 
Date:  Mon Sep 23, 2002  11:31
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Near Dark DVD


> And where was Jenny Wright. It
> would have nice to see what's up with her now. ;-) 

Actually, it did say -- she quit the movie industry (hence her lack of
participation in this project). There was a section on each person on
the DVD -- I want to say Bio's, but in hindsight it might have been
'Other Work' or something like that. There was actually several pages
worth of information on each person, and one about JW made her sound
like a bit of a nutter.
-- 
Don't criticize someone until you've walked a mile in their shoes...
..because then you'll be a mile away, and you'll have their shoes.

I remain,
:-Peter aka :-Dusty :-Chalk


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<MESSAGE index="36341">
From: 

Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Mon Sep 23, 2002  11:36
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] re: building towards Halloween


No problem 'Cat People' ost will be on the program by
Thursday if Uncle Sam can deliver it to the uplink by
then. I will also play music from 'Phantasm.' I get
my best ratings during the month of October and I am
slowing inserting Halloween music. If things go as
planned this Friday I will play music from Universal
Horror movies and then make my way throught the
B-movies of the 50's to the heavily syn driven
B-movies of the 80's and 90's.

Wade
--- tei waz <teiwazbarana@h...> wrote:
> 
> re: building towards Halloween
> 
> Same here--watched the Near Dark DVD over the
> weekend.
> 
> thanks for the heads up on the release....
> 
> --T
> 
> 
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<MESSAGE index="36342">
From: 

'fozziebear' <fozziebear.beehive@b...> 
Date:  Mon Sep 23, 2002  5:40
pm
Subject:  test


Test

David


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<MESSAGE index="36343">
From: 

moxica@a... 
Date:  Tue Sep 24, 2002  6:38
pm
Subject:  Sounds of Silence


I just changed my e-mail address (moxica@a...); did 
I manage to kick myself out? Or are things just that 
quiet on the list...

- jim

	
</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36344">
From: 

<jarek@w...> 
Date:  Tue Sep 24, 2002  7:39
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] computer crash


Hi Duncan,

Very sorry hearing this....
Well, my postal address is:

Jaroslaw Wiktorowicz
ul. Lukowska 46/27
04-133 Warsaw
Poland, PL

Please note, that I use new e-mail address.

cheers

Jarek 'Jerry'
mailto:jarek@w...
Visit my websites at:
http://www.tangerinedream.pl/
http://www.klausmusic.pl/
http://www.wiktorowicz.pl/


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Duncan McKee [mailto:tangram@t...]
> Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 11:24 PM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [tadream] computer crash
> 
> 
> hi
> due to a computer hard drive failure i have lost all my contacts, 
> please email me so i can add you to my address book, i can also not 
> get windows XP to install so any trades for DVDs will be on hold for 
> a few days.
> 
> 
> Thanks
> Duncan
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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<MESSAGE index="36345">
From: 

'Michael Jean' <michaeljean@e...> 
Date:  Wed Sep 25, 2002  5:02
pm
Subject:  TD on the ocean


I just returned from a trip to the Outer Banks of North Carolina. 

While riding an automoble ferry back from Ocracoke Island (a hang-out of
Blackbeard the Pirate), my car was positioned right at the front of the
ferry. All I could see over the hood of my car were sea gulls and the
ocean. It almost looked as if I could be piloting the ship with my
sterring wheel. Anyway, I happened to be playing the White Eagle (Perth
from IBOX), during the trip, and the 'screaming eagle' portions were
enhanced by they sounds of sea gulls surrounding the car... I wonder if
they were singing along...ha ha ha... 

The list seems awfully quiet...Is everybody using the TD-site forum
instead???

Regards,


Michael A. Jean
The Brookings Institution
1775 Massachusetts Avenue, N.W.
Washington, DC 20036-2188

TEL: (202)-797-6214
FAX: (202)-797-2479 
EMAIL: mjean@b...
http://www.brookings.edu 


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<MESSAGE index="36346">
From: 

'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Wed Sep 25, 2002  5:13
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] TD on the ocean


Maybe end of summer things... for the slowness but the TD forum is live
I seen some interesting items posted.

Did anyone else here you play White Eagle while on the ferry? What was their
reactions?

dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Michael Jean' <michaeljean@e...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 10:02 AM
Subject: [tadream] TD on the ocean


> I just returned from a trip to the Outer Banks of North Carolina.
>
> While riding an automoble ferry back from Ocracoke Island (a hang-out of
> Blackbeard the Pirate), my car was positioned right at the front of the
> ferry. All I could see over the hood of my car were sea gulls and the
> ocean. It almost looked as if I could be piloting the ship with my
> sterring wheel. Anyway, I happened to be playing the White Eagle (Perth
> from IBOX), during the trip, and the 'screaming eagle' portions were
> enhanced by they sounds of sea gulls surrounding the car... I wonder if
> they were singing along...ha ha ha...
>
> The list seems awfully quiet...Is everybody using the TD-site forum
> instead???
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Michael A. Jean
> The Brookings Institution
> 1775 Massachusetts Avenue, N.W.
> Washington, DC 20036-2188
>
> TEL: (202)-797-6214
> FAX: (202)-797-2479
> EMAIL: mjean@b...
> http://www.brookings.edu
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
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> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


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<MESSAGE index="36347">
From: 

'Yanick Vigneault' <tdream88@h...> 
Date:  Wed Sep 25, 2002  5:21
pm
Subject:  About TD 'News' section


Hello! 

Does anybody have an idea about the 'news' section from de TD site?

'Upcoming: New attractions are on their way! Stay tuned!'

Ciao!


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<MESSAGE index="36348">
From: 

'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Wed Sep 25, 2002  5:31
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] About TD 'News' section


I almost have to make that site a daily visit now.
Remember when one could count on the TD site never changing? Actually use it
to adjust your monitor colors and how fast your connection is etc. (ok so I
am going over the top with that).

dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Yanick Vigneault' <tdream88@h...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 10:21 AM
Subject: [tadream] About TD 'News' section


> Hello!
>
> Does anybody have an idea about the 'news' section from de TD site?
>
> 'Upcoming: New attractions are on their way! Stay tuned!'
>
> Ciao!
>
>
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<MESSAGE index="36349">
From: 

'Yanick Vigneault' <tdream88@h...> 
Date:  Wed Sep 25, 2002  8:11
pm
Subject:  Re: About TD 'News' section


I like your cynicism!!! It's my preferred humour!

Yanick

--- In tadream@y..., 'Administrator' <admin@k...> wrote:
> I almost have to make that site a daily visit now.
> Remember when one could count on the TD site never changing? 
Actually use it
> to adjust your monitor colors and how fast your connection is etc. 
(ok so I
> am going over the top with that).
> 
> dale
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Yanick Vigneault' <tdream88@h...>
> To: <tadream@y...>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 10:21 AM
> Subject: [tadream] About TD 'News' section
> 
> 
> > Hello!
> >
> > Does anybody have an idea about the 'news' section from de TD 
site?
> >
> > 'Upcoming: New attractions are on their way! Stay tuned!'
> >
> > Ciao!
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@y...
> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
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> > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> >
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> > http://www.tadream.net/tree
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to 
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36350">
From: 

Dan Downey <djambient@y...> 
Date:  Wed Sep 25, 2002  9:16
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] TD on the ocean


On some other list, someone is probably recounting a
similar story with Celine Dion's Love Theme from
Titanic. To have light, you must have dark.

--- Michael Jean <michaeljean@e...> wrote:
> I just returned from a trip to the Outer Banks of
> North Carolina. 
> 
> While riding an automoble ferry back from Ocracoke
> Island (a hang-out of
> Blackbeard the Pirate), my car was positioned right
> at the front of the
> ferry. All I could see over the hood of my car were
> sea gulls and the
> ocean. It almost looked as if I could be piloting
> the ship with my
> sterring wheel. Anyway, I happened to be playing the
> White Eagle (Perth
> from IBOX), during the trip, and the 'screaming
> eagle' portions were
> enhanced by they sounds of sea gulls surrounding the
> car... I wonder if
> they were singing along...ha ha ha... 
> 
> The list seems awfully quiet...Is everybody using
> the TD-site forum
> instead???
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Michael A. Jean
> The Brookings Institution
> 1775 Massachusetts Avenue, N.W.
> Washington, DC 20036-2188
> 
> TEL: (202)-797-6214
> FAX: (202)-797-2479 
> EMAIL: mjean@b...
> http://www.brookings.edu 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> 
> 
>
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> 
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> http://www.tadream.net/tree 
> 
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<MESSAGE index="36351">
From: 

'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Wed Sep 25, 2002  9:37
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] TD on the ocean


and in a distant galaxy far far away ....
something might be sequencing the next Tangerine Dream Album....

The Australian Aborigines say the God's are in Dream Time now. I wonder if
it's Dream Time for Tangerine Dream?


dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Dan Downey' <djambient@y...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] TD on the ocean


> On some other list, someone is probably recounting a
> similar story with Celine Dion's Love Theme from
> Titanic. To have light, you must have dark.
>
> --- Michael Jean <michaeljean@e...> wrote:
> > I just returned from a trip to the Outer Banks of
> > North Carolina.
> >
> > While riding an automoble ferry back from Ocracoke
> > Island (a hang-out of
> > Blackbeard the Pirate), my car was positioned right
> > at the front of the
> > ferry. All I could see over the hood of my car were
> > sea gulls and the
> > ocean. It almost looked as if I could be piloting
> > the ship with my
> > sterring wheel. Anyway, I happened to be playing the
> > White Eagle (Perth
> > from IBOX), during the trip, and the 'screaming
> > eagle' portions were
> > enhanced by they sounds of sea gulls surrounding the
> > car... I wonder if
> > they were singing along...ha ha ha...
> >
> > The list seems awfully quiet...Is everybody using
> > the TD-site forum
> > instead???
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> > Michael A. Jean
> > The Brookings Institution
> > 1775 Massachusetts Avenue, N.W.
> > Washington, DC 20036-2188
> >
> > TEL: (202)-797-6214
> > FAX: (202)-797-2479
> > EMAIL: mjean@b...
> > http://www.brookings.edu
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> >
> >
> >
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> > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> >
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> > http://www.tadream.net/tree
> >
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> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
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<MESSAGE index="36352">
From: 

Ken Beal <noir43@d...> 
Date:  Wed Sep 25, 2002  10:16
pm
Subject:  ISO TT#2 Administrator


Looking for the person who is administrating the Tangerine Tree #2.

Please contact me at: noir43@d...

My branch has abandoned me and I am in need of a new branch.

TIA,

Ken


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36353">
From: 

David Butler <daventura98@y...> 
Date:  Wed Sep 25, 2002  10:49
pm
Subject:  Slow list


Hello again...I guess my last reply didn't go over too
well with somebody, but I will keep trying. Anyway...I
was sitting in my car playing Logos today and a very
nice looking girl came up and asked me what it was
that I was playing, I told her. She said, 'Oh really,
my ex boyfriend used to always try to bang me with
their music playing'...Wish me luck, we're going out
on Friday....David

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<MESSAGE index="36354">
From: 

Falcon <falcon@r...> 
Date:  Wed Sep 25, 2002  10:53
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Slow list


At 12:49 AM 9/26/2002, you wrote:
>'Oh really,
>my ex boyfriend used to always try to bang me with
>their music playing'...Wish me luck, we're going out
>on Friday....David

What happened during the part of Diamond Diary, when the sequencer gets 
faster again. . .? ;-)
Anyway, good luck, wish I had someone who loved my ambitions for EM and TD.

Ramon


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36355">
From: 

'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Wed Sep 25, 2002  11:13
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Slow list


well there you go


----- Original Message -----
From: 'David Butler' <daventura98@y...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 3:49 PM
Subject: [tadream] Slow list


> Hello again...I guess my last reply didn't go over too
> well with somebody, but I will keep trying. Anyway...I
> was sitting in my car playing Logos today and a very
> nice looking girl came up and asked me what it was
> that I was playing, I told her. She said, 'Oh really,
> my ex boyfriend used to always try to bang me with
> their music playing'...Wish me luck, we're going out
> on Friday....David
>
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>
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>
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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36356">
From: 

Rainer Rutka <rainer@k...> 
Date:  Thu Sep 26, 2002  10:49
am
Subject:  Ebay warning: Baumann/Koeck LP is _not_ Peter Baumann


Hi!

Just a warning.

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=908003288&rd=1

At Ebay Germany, somebody is selling the Baumann/Koeck LP. He mentions
its a Peter(!) Baumann Solo reocord made by the ex TD-member.
I told him, it`s not Peter Baumann (it was Wolfgang Baumann) but he
doesn`t care about it.

Beware!!! 

Rainer 

See : www.rutka.de/td -> Solo Members -> Peter Baumann -> Baumann/Koeck
error page

Or: http://www.rutka.de/td/bau-koek.html
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www.rutka.de/td
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<MESSAGE index="36357">
From: 

Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Thu Sep 26, 2002  2:13
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] OT: AERO concert radio broadcasted


Dear Glenn,

I am having J. M. Jarre on the radio program and I
unserstand there is another tribute c.d. besides the
hypnotic one. Where can I purchase one?

Wade
--- Glenn Folkvord - Hyperion Media
<glenn@f...> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Wade Gordon' <mindvoyager1@y...>
> 
> 
> > IF anyone has contact info for J. M. Jarre I will
> book
> > him on with Lou and me.
> 
> Your best bet is to contact bignath@i..., his
> chief webmaster. Though
> I believe Jarre will be too busy right now - even
> after the show - to appear
> on that programme.
> 
> Glenn
> 
> 
>
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<MESSAGE index="36358">
From: 

'Glenn Folkvord - Hyperion Media' <glenn@f...> 
Date:  Thu Sep 26, 2002  2:52
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] OT: AERO concert radio broadcasted


Hi Wade,

The new tribute CD is available from www.jarretribute.com 

When are you having JMJ on your program?

Glenn


----- Original Message ----- 
From: 'Wade Gordon' <mindvoyager1@y...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: AERO concert radio broadcasted


> Dear Glenn,
> 
> I am having J. M. Jarre on the radio program and I
> unserstand there is another tribute c.d. besides the
> hypnotic one. Where can I purchase one?
> 
> Wade


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36359">
From: 

thomas m weibrecht <tweibrecht@j...> 
Date:  Thu Sep 26, 2002  4:25
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Digest Number 1511


> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 15:16:50 -0700
> From: Ken Beal <noir43@d...>
> Subject: ISO TT#2 Administrator
> 
> Looking for the person who is administrating the Tangerine Tree #2.
> 
> Please contact me at: noir43@d...
> 
> My branch has abandoned me and I am in need of a new branch.
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Ken

Ditto...

tom w

np: peter gabriel - up

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<MESSAGE index="36360">
From: 

Chris Richards <kohntarkosz@y...> 
Date:  Thu Sep 26, 2002  6:10
pm
Subject:  ftp sites


Anyone know of any good ftp sites to download
live TD or Klaus Schulze? I used to see a few
shows by each on Napster, back in the day, but
wasn ever able to get fast enough connection to
get anything more than a few minutes. 

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<MESSAGE index="36361">
From: 

'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...> 
Date:  Thu Sep 26, 2002  7:02
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Slow list


Ok, we had various activities to do while listening to TD, such as the
bathroom and childbirth, now SEX!!!!

My personal choice would be 'Yellowstone Park' from Le Parc! Now I just
need someone to test it on......
The wife's not keen on TD!
Paulus.d_uk

----- Original Message -----
From: 'David Butler' <daventura98@y...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 11:49 PM
Subject: [tadream] Slow list


> Hello again...I guess my last reply didn't go over too
> well with somebody, but I will keep trying. Anyway...I
> was sitting in my car playing Logos today and a very
> nice looking girl came up and asked me what it was
> that I was playing, I told her. She said, 'Oh really,
> my ex boyfriend used to always try to bang me with
> their music playing'...Wish me luck, we're going out
> on Friday....David
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do you Yahoo!?
> New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo!
> http://sbc.yahoo.com
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
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> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36362">
From: 

'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Thu Sep 26, 2002  7:19
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Slow list


Most likely also a good thing Paul, she doesn't read the list. I can't say
that about my wife however, she does sneak a peek at the list once in a
while. Right now her eye sight isn't all that good so I feel a tad safe
doing the pirate comments.

r r r r r r rrrrrrrr

me thiinksss you might be getting into a weee bit of trouble r rd water with
that testtinggg

;-)

dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Slow list


> Ok, we had various activities to do while listening to TD, such as the
> bathroom and childbirth, now SEX!!!!
>
> My personal choice would be 'Yellowstone Park' from Le Parc! Now I just
> need someone to test it on......
> The wife's not keen on TD!
> Paulus.d_uk
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'David Butler' <daventura98@y...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 11:49 PM
> Subject: [tadream] Slow list
>
>
> > Hello again...I guess my last reply didn't go over too
> > well with somebody, but I will keep trying. Anyway...I
> > was sitting in my car playing Logos today and a very
> > nice looking girl came up and asked me what it was
> > that I was playing, I told her. She said, 'Oh really,
> > my ex boyfriend used to always try to bang me with
> > their music playing'...Wish me luck, we're going out
> > on Friday....David
> >
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<MESSAGE index="36363">
From: 

'Owens, James' <james.owens@m...> 
Date:  Thu Sep 26, 2002  7:24
pm
Subject:  OT: Moog


As my e-mail address indicates, I work for NASA (indirectly). My current
project is finding suitable electro-mechanical actuators to move rocket
engine nozzles during launch. Interestingly enough, one of the major
suppliers of actuators is MOOG!

Seems that before making breakthroughs in Space Music, they were making
breakthroughs in Space Mechanisms (Moog actuators were used on all the
Saturn rockets). If you're interested, this is a list of other rockets
they've supplied parts for:
http://www.moog.com/noq/_general__c538/

James

	
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<MESSAGE index="36364">
From: 

'Owens, James' <james.owens@m...> 
Date:  Thu Sep 26, 2002  7:29
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] OT: Moog


OOPS! I just read the FAQ at the Moog site, and it seems that Robert Moog
(inventer of the famous synthesizer) is the cousin of Bill Moog (founder of
Moog, Inc.). So Moog, Inc. never actually produced Moog synths...
But they are 'related'!


-----Original Message-----
From: Owens, James [mailto:james.owens@m...]
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 2:24 PM
To: 'tadream@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [tadream] OT: Moog


As my e-mail address indicates, I work for NASA (indirectly). My current
project is finding suitable electro-mechanical actuators to move rocket
engine nozzles during launch. Interestingly enough, one of the major
suppliers of actuators is MOOG!

Seems that before making breakthroughs in Space Music, they were making
breakthroughs in Space Mechanisms (Moog actuators were used on all the
Saturn rockets). If you're interested, this is a list of other rockets
they've supplied parts for:
http://www.moog.com/noq/_general__c538/

James

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To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com 
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Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/

Tangerine Tree info at
http://www.tadream.net/tree 

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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36365">
From: 

'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Thu Sep 26, 2002  7:33
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] OT: Moog


cool

Thanks for reminding me.. Did you also do a search on Roland, Korg, and
Yamaha etc? I seem to remember when I was active in bidding contracts for
NASA I used a data base to see who where the contractors already and what
projects. That database might still exist.

Dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Owens, James' <james.owens@m...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 12:24 PM
Subject: [tadream] OT: Moog


> As my e-mail address indicates, I work for NASA (indirectly). My current
> project is finding suitable electro-mechanical actuators to move rocket
> engine nozzles during launch. Interestingly enough, one of the major
> suppliers of actuators is MOOG!
>
> Seems that before making breakthroughs in Space Music, they were making
> breakthroughs in Space Mechanisms (Moog actuators were used on all the
> Saturn rockets). If you're interested, this is a list of other rockets
> they've supplied parts for:
> http://www.moog.com/noq/_general__c538/
>
> James
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36366">
From: 

PENFOLD <penfold@a...> 
Date:  Thu Sep 26, 2002  7:38
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] RE: Other people's reactions to TD


At 02.09.16-16:11, Administrator wrote:
>Well this year perhaps you should try a bit of the Inferno and see if any 
>fires happen?

That will happen whether or not I play Inferno!<g>

With my job being a school bus driver, it looks like going to 
Black Rock with the freaks will be a little out of the question.
My wife and I just bought a house and will be moving in within the 
next couple of weeks.....and on top of all that, she's now three weeks 
pregnant!

So to put it mildly.....I'm all booked up!

Sorry for the delay, but my old 2.0gig HDD started to give up the 
ghost and I had to check it in with my Gurus to xfer the data and install a 
new 20gig HDD!


Pete Isaacson aka °º¤ø,¸DJ DreamHead¸,ø¤º°
mailto:penfold@a...?subject=DJDreamHead
http://www.anet.net/~penfold/)^(djdreamhead.html
Yahoo Chat: penfold235 ····· AIM: PENFOLD235
1984, Saw 'The Keep' LP at Tower Records, actually held it, didn't have the 
$$.....Damn!!!!!
'Absence of the KEEP LP is not evidence of its non-existence.' - Steven 
Feldman

Watch the Coasters Grow! at: http://www.anet.net/~penfold/coastergarden.html


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36367">
From: 

PENFOLD <penfold@a...> 
Date:  Thu Sep 26, 2002  7:46
pm
Subject:  OT: Koyaanisqatsi & Powaqqatsi on DVD


Amazon just sent me my copies of these two films on DVD....they both 
contain the theatrical preview of the Third film Naqoyqatsi: Live As War, 
to be released in theatres in the US on or about 10/17.
Naqoyqatsi really looks like it's gonna blow the others away.

If you happen to reside in the SoCal area, I'm gonna be organising a 
get-together at one of the theatres (it'll probably be in limited release) 
to see this with other interest peoples.....let me know if your interested.

Pete Isaacson aka °º¤ø,¸DJ DreamHead¸,ø¤º°
mailto:penfold@a...?subject=DJDreamHead
http://www.anet.net/~penfold/)^(djdreamhead.html
Yahoo Chat: penfold235 ····· AIM: PENFOLD235
1984, Saw 'The Keep' LP at Tower Records, actually held it, didn't have the 
$$.....Damn!!!!!
'Absence of the KEEP LP is not evidence of its non-existence.' - Steven 
Feldman

Watch the Coasters Grow! at: http://www.anet.net/~penfold/coastergarden.html


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36368">
From: 

'Owens, James' <james.owens@m...> 
Date:  Thu Sep 26, 2002  7:47
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] OT: Moog


I only found Moog because they make actuators. I knew that Bob Moog had
sold his company back in the 70's, so I mistakenly thought this was the same
company. 

As for the database, I'm sure there's one around here somewhere. I've never
seen it though...

James

-----Original Message-----
From: Administrator [mailto:admin@k...]
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 2:34 PM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Moog


cool

Thanks for reminding me.. Did you also do a search on Roland, Korg, and
Yamaha etc? I seem to remember when I was active in bidding contracts for
NASA I used a data base to see who where the contractors already and what
projects. That database might still exist.

Dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Owens, James' <james.owens@m...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 12:24 PM
Subject: [tadream] OT: Moog


> As my e-mail address indicates, I work for NASA (indirectly). My current
> project is finding suitable electro-mechanical actuators to move rocket
> engine nozzles during launch. Interestingly enough, one of the major
> suppliers of actuators is MOOG!
>
> Seems that before making breakthroughs in Space Music, they were making
> breakthroughs in Space Mechanisms (Moog actuators were used on all the
> Saturn rockets). If you're interested, this is a list of other rockets
> they've supplied parts for:
> http://www.moog.com/noq/_general__c538/
>
> James
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


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Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/

Tangerine Tree info at
http://www.tadream.net/tree 

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36369">
From: 

'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Thu Sep 26, 2002  7:54
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] RE: Other people's reactions to TD


I was looking forward to try to find you there. I may not go either. I got
too many loose ends to get a handle on in the next few weeks to months. The
only reason pushing me was I might see some list people there. If I do, I
will drop you a note. Shoot back some pictures and some sound bites.

I do want to ensure I have plenty of off time at my day job for next years
Mohave TD gathering... so that was also another player.
One has to plan and choose. Options are not that many sometimes.

Dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'PENFOLD' <penfold@a...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] RE: Other people's reactions to TD


> At 02.09.16-16:11, Administrator wrote:
> >Well this year perhaps you should try a bit of the Inferno and see if any
> >fires happen?
>
> That will happen whether or not I play Inferno!<g>
>
> With my job being a school bus driver, it looks like going to
> Black Rock with the freaks will be a little out of the question.
> My wife and I just bought a house and will be moving in within
the
> next couple of weeks.....and on top of all that, she's now three weeks
> pregnant!
>
> So to put it mildly.....I'm all booked up!
>
> Sorry for the delay, but my old 2.0gig HDD started to give up the
> ghost and I had to check it in with my Gurus to xfer the data and install
a
> new 20gig HDD!
>
>
> Pete Isaacson aka °º¤ø,¸DJ DreamHead¸,ø¤º°
> mailto:penfold@a...?subject=DJDreamHead
> http://www.anet.net/~penfold/)^(djdreamhead.html
> Yahoo Chat: penfold235 ····· AIM: PENFOLD235
> 1984, Saw 'The Keep' LP at Tower Records, actually held it, didn't have
the
> $$.....Damn!!!!!
> 'Absence of the KEEP LP is not evidence of its non-existence.' - Steven
> Feldman
>
> Watch the Coasters Grow! at:
http://www.anet.net/~penfold/coastergarden.html
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36370">
From: 

'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Thu Sep 26, 2002  7:56
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] OT: Moog


It is usually near the front desk or near the area where contractors meet.
At least out here at Dryden it is.
Heck if it's like everywhere other place, it may be paper only or somewhere
else. GSA is another source to look as well.

I am going to send you a note off list in a second.

dale

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Owens, James' <james.owens@m...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 12:47 PM
Subject: RE: [tadream] OT: Moog


> I only found Moog because they make actuators. I knew that Bob Moog had
> sold his company back in the 70's, so I mistakenly thought this was the
same
> company.
>
> As for the database, I'm sure there's one around here somewhere. I've
never
> seen it though...
>
> James
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Administrator [mailto:admin@k...]
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 2:34 PM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Moog
>
>
> cool
>
> Thanks for reminding me.. Did you also do a search on Roland, Korg, and
> Yamaha etc? I seem to remember when I was active in bidding contracts for
> NASA I used a data base to see who where the contractors already and what
> projects. That database might still exist.
>
> Dale
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Owens, James' <james.owens@m...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 12:24 PM
> Subject: [tadream] OT: Moog
>
>
> > As my e-mail address indicates, I work for NASA (indirectly). My
current
> > project is finding suitable electro-mechanical actuators to move rocket
> > engine nozzles during launch. Interestingly enough, one of the major
> > suppliers of actuators is MOOG!
> >
> > Seems that before making breakthroughs in Space Music, they were making
> > breakthroughs in Space Mechanisms (Moog actuators were used on all the
> > Saturn rockets). If you're interested, this is a list of other rockets
> > they've supplied parts for:
> > http://www.moog.com/noq/_general__c538/
> >
> > James
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> >
> > Tangerine Tree info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/tree
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36371">
From: 

'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Thu Sep 26, 2002  9:21
pm
Subject:  EM list


Since I always seem to do a bad cross post.

For those who do not get ElectronicMusic@yahoogroups.com
ElectronicMusic@yahoogroups.com list, Glenn Folkvord - Hyperion Media
<glenn@f...> posted that he has a new show from Norway, Electronic
Shadows to be broadcasted at least once per week on Favorit FM, a radio
station covering central parts of Eastern Norway.

For those who are on this list you can pass on more details if you want. He
did mention TD as part of the list.

Dale


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36372">
From: 

'Frank Arellano' <farellano@c...> 
Date:  Thu Sep 26, 2002  9:49
pm
Subject:  Fw: Ambitions For EM and TD


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Frank Arellano 
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 11:54 AM
Subject: Ambitions For EM and TD


< wish I had someone who loved my ambitions for EM and TD.>

Tell me about it, Ramon ! 8-\ I'll soon to be joining someone else here in
'getting the axe' [Insertion for Frank's usual smirk 8-)], no doubt due in
part to 'my music'. I will do well enough though, because I still have my kids,
my health, my music, my house, my job, etc! I may be better off with just a
girlfriend anyways ...

<< my ex-boyfriend used to always try to bang me while listening to their
music.>> 

In reference to that resignating EX !! I hope that's not indicative of my
future success! 8-) Frank, who still hasn't lost his sense of humor either!

NP Symbian's 'Source Of Secrets'. Very nice melodies that at times remind me
of Vangelis and Frank van Bogaert. Has some wonderful chants that remind me of
the middle eastern mosques.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36373">
From: 

'Bill Fox' <billfox@f...> 
Date:  Thu Sep 26, 2002  9:47
pm
Subject:  EMUSIC Playlist #287


[ Best viewed using a fixed spacing font. ]

EMUSIC is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday
at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton,
PA and Phillipsburg, NJ.

Show #287 September 19, 2002.


RECAP:
On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Rudy Adrian, a New Zealander
who is visiting the US this month and will be playing at The Gathering on the
21st. The Featured CD at midnight was 'Iridescence - Sequencer Sketches Volume
2' on the Groove label.

The Vinyl Starter was from the LP 'Music for Amplified Keyboard Instruments' by
David Borden on the Red Music label.

Rudy Adrian http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic/playlists/2002/focus02.html#sep
The Gathering http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic/events.html


PLAYLIST:

ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label)
======================= ======================== ==============================
11:04 pm
David Borden Esty Point Music for Amplified Keyboard
Instruments (Red Music)
Spacetime Continuum Biscuit Face Double Fine Zone (Astralwerks)
Robert Rich Folded Space Bestiary (Release)
Paul Nagle A Night at the Opera Red Book/Blue Book
(Neu Harmony)
Steve Roach Seeking Dreaming... Now, Then
(Celestial Harmonies)
VA [Victor Cerullo] Jon's Theme World Wide Kind (Groove)
Omnimotion Stay Here Omnimotion (Waveform)
Rudy Adrian Shelter from the Storm The Healing Lake (White Cloud)
Mike Griffin and Source of all Gravity The Most Distant Point Known
Dave Fulton (Hypnos)

12:00 am
Rudy Adrian Rain Shadow Iridescence (Groove)
Rudy Adrian Iridescence Iridescence (Groove)
Rudy Adrian Our Favourite Robot Iridescence (Groove)
Rudy Adrian Song of the North - Iridescence (Groove)
Kinetic Flow Revisited
Rudy Adrian Luchtkastelen (Castles Iridescence (Groove)
in the Air)
Rudy Adrian Reflections on Blue Iridescence (Groove)
Rudy Adrian A Postcard from Karnak Iridescence (Groove)
vidnaObmana and Opening The Oblique Fusion (none)
Joris De Backer
vidnaObmana and Oblique (Beyond the The Oblique Fusion (none)
Joris De Backer Shaman)

1:00 am

* = exerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)


NEXT SHOW:
On the next EMUSIC, I'll conclude the month-long focus on Rudy Adrian to
celebrate this New Zealander's visit to the US. The Featured CD at Midnight
will be 'Kinetic Flow - Sequencer Sketches Volume 2' on the Groove label.

The vinyl show starter will be from the LP 'Mosaique' by Robert Schroder on the
Racket Records label.


Bill
===============================================================================
Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at
11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and
Phillipsburg. http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic
Host of the AM/FM Show on WMUH Allentown 91.7 FM every other Saturday at 6 am.
Host of Afterglow on WMUH every Thursday morning from 8:00 to 9:30.
http://soundscapes.us/~bill/amfm http://soundscapes.us/~bill/afterglow
Radio Station Web Sites: http://wdiy.org http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh
Personal site: http://soundscapes.us/~bill
To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, go to
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emusic-wdiy and click on [Join This Group!]
SOUNDSCAPES Concert Series: http://soundscapes.us


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36374">
From: 

'Robert Asmus' <asmus0324@c...> 
Date:  Thu Sep 26, 2002  10:27
pm
Subject:  Need Help getting a copy of TT1 release


Can anybody help me get a copy of the TT1 set. I can either send you
blank CDR's or can you provide me with a download source for them.
Please email me at asmus0324@c...

Robert Asmus


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36375">
From: 

'Glenn Folkvord - Hyperion Media' <glenn@f...> 
Date:  Thu Sep 26, 2002  11:17
pm
Subject:  Radio show (was: EM list)


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Administrator' <admin@k...>


> Since I always seem to do a bad cross post.
>
> For those who do not get ElectronicMusic@yahoogroups.com
> ElectronicMusic@yahoogroups.com list, Glenn Folkvord - Hyperion Media
> <glenn@f...> posted that he has a new show from Norway, Electronic
> Shadows to be broadcasted at least once per week on Favorit FM, a radio
> station covering central parts of Eastern Norway.
>
> For those who are on this list you can pass on more details if you want.
He
> did mention TD as part of the list.

Or you could ask me directly :-)

I can promise that I will play TD alot on this show. Probably nothing people
here dont know like their own pockets, but at least TD will be played maybe
in every show that I do.

Unfortunately, the show will not be streamed on the net in the near future.

Glenn

http://www.jarretribute.com


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36376">
From: 

'Admin' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Fri Sep 27, 2002  5:54
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Radio show (was: EM list)


What if

You recorded it and sent it to one of us who can then stream it just not
live.

dale
btw, I knew you where on the list, I just wanted to add some useful info
here on a otherwise dead day. I wish I could listen to it live.


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Glenn Folkvord - Hyperion Media' <glenn@f...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 4:17 PM
Subject: [tadream] Radio show (was: EM list)


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Administrator' <admin@k...>
>
>
> > Since I always seem to do a bad cross post.
> >
> > For those who do not get ElectronicMusic@yahoogroups.com
> > ElectronicMusic@yahoogroups.com list, Glenn Folkvord - Hyperion Media
> > <glenn@f...> posted that he has a new show from Norway,
Electronic
> > Shadows to be broadcasted at least once per week on Favorit FM, a radio
> > station covering central parts of Eastern Norway.
> >
> > For those who are on this list you can pass on more details if you want.
> He
> > did mention TD as part of the list.
>
> Or you could ask me directly :-)
>
> I can promise that I will play TD alot on this show. Probably nothing
people
> here dont know like their own pockets, but at least TD will be played
maybe
> in every show that I do.
>
> Unfortunately, the show will not be streamed on the net in the near
future.
>
> Glenn
>
> http://www.jarretribute.com
>
>
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>
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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36377">
From: 

'Glenn Folkvord - Hyperion Media' <glenn@f...> 
Date:  Fri Sep 27, 2002  7:10
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Radio show (was: EM list)


See off-list message

Glenn


----- Original Message ----- 
From: 'Admin' <admin@k...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 7:54 AM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Radio show (was: EM list)


> What if
> 
> You recorded it and sent it to one of us who can then stream it just not
> live.


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36378">
From: 

Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> 
Date:  Fri Sep 27, 2002  12:52
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] OT: Moog


They also once did a 'prayer's clock' - a device which would
remind you (as a good Muslim) when its time to pray towards
Mecca. Including some compass giving you the direction towards
Mecca.

The famous synth shop 'Matten and Wiechers' in Bonn, Germany
(all our fave musician went shopping there, including myself ;-) )
had it!

I wonder, though, whether it was Bob or Bill Moog...

armin


Owens, James wrote:

> As my e-mail address indicates, I work for NASA (indirectly). My current
> project is finding suitable electro-mechanical actuators to move rocket
> engine nozzles during launch. Interestingly enough, one of the major
> suppliers of actuators is MOOG!
> 
> Seems that before making breakthroughs in Space Music, they were making
> breakthroughs in Space Mechanisms (Moog actuators were used on all the
> Saturn rockets). If you're interested, this is a list of other rockets
> they've supplied parts for:
> http://www.moog.com/noq/_general__c538/
> 
> James
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
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> ----------------------------------------------------_-
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> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> 
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> 
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> 
> 
> 


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36379">
From: 

'Bill Fox' <billfox@f...> 
Date:  Fri Sep 27, 2002  2:05
pm
Subject:  EMUSIC Playlist #288


[ Best viewed using a fixed spacing font. ]

EMUSIC is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday
at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton,
PA and Phillipsburg, NJ.

Show #288 September 26, 2002.


RECAP:
On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on Rudy Adrian, a New Zealander
who visited the US this month and played at The Gathering on the 21st. The
Featured CD at midnight was 'Kinetic Flow - Sequencer Sketches Volume 1' on the
Groove label.

The Vinyl Starter was from the LP 'Mosaique' by Robert Schroder on the Racket
Records label.

I played the music of artists who will be performing at the next Gathering,
which will feature Jeff Pearce with Mike Griffin and Dave Fulton.

Rudy Adrian http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic/playlists/2002/focus02.html#sep
The Gathering http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic/events.html


PLAYLIST:

ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label)
======================= ======================== ==============================
11:04 pm
Robert Schroder Utopia Mosaique (Racket Records)
Jeff Pearce Opening Songs for the Gathering (none)
Mike Griffin and Opposite Horizon The Most Distant Point Known
Dave Fulton (Hypnos)
Syn Freefall Soundwave Traveller (Spheric)
Orbital Decay exerpt from the 12-27-01 Lice on EMUSIC (none)
broadcast of EMUSIC
Paul Ellis and Sequencer Fest * Various Cuts (none)
Craig Padilla

12:00 am
Rudy Adrian Coming Home Iridescence (Groove)
Rudy Adrian The Legacy of Luxor Iridescence (Groove)
Rudy Adrian Turquoise Iridescence (Groove)
Rudy Adrian Le Songe du Singe Iridescence (Groove)
Rudy Adrian Happy Memories Iridescence (Groove)
Rudy Adrian Luxor Revisited * Iridescence (Groove)

1:00 am

* = exerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)


NEXT SHOW:
On the next EMUSIC, I'll start a month-long focus on Jeff Pearce who uses the
guitar to create synth-like soundscapes. The Featured CD at Midnight will be
'The Light Beyond' on the Hypnos label.

The vinyl show starter will be from the LP 'White Noise 2' by David Vorhaus on
the Virgin label.

I will play the music of artists who will be performing at the next Gathering,
which will feature Jeff Pearce with Mike Griffin and Dave Fulton.


Bill
===============================================================================
Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at
11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and
Phillipsburg. http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic
Host of the AM/FM Show on WMUH Allentown 91.7 FM every other Saturday at 6 am.
Host of Afterglow on WMUH every Thursday morning from 8:00 to 9:30.
http://soundscapes.us/~bill/amfm http://soundscapes.us/~bill/afterglow
Radio Station Web Sites: http://wdiy.org http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh
Personal site: http://soundscapes.us/~bill
To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, go to
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emusic-wdiy and click on [Join This Group!]
SOUNDSCAPES Concert Series: http://soundscapes.us


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36380">
From: 

'Bill Fox' <billfox@f...> 
Date:  Fri Sep 27, 2002  2:19
pm
Subject:  Re: EMUSIC Playlist #288


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Bill Fox' <billfox@f...>
> [ Best viewed using a fixed spacing font. ]
> Show #288 September 26, 2002.
>
> ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label)
> ======================= ========================
==============================
> Orbital Decay exerpt from the 12-27-01 Lice on EMUSIC (none)
> broadcast of EMUSIC

Er, um... That's LIVE. WDIY is a very clean place and EMUSIC is a clean
show... REALLY! Trust me! They are! We have no lice. HONEST... :-)

Cheers,

Bill


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36381">
From: 

'Bill Fox' <billfox@f...> 
Date:  Fri Sep 27, 2002  2:37
pm
Subject:  EMUSIC Top 20 Monthly Report for September, 2002


WDIY 88.1 FM 'EMUSIC' Top 20 report to
New Age Voice and CD Revolutions for September, 2002.
Shows #285 to #288; 5-September-2002 to 26-September-2002
Reported in non-ranked order.
Compiled by Bill Fox, billfox@f...

CONTACT: billfox@f...
http://wdiyfm.org/programs/emusic


ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL
============================
Bjorn Lynne - Colony - none
Brent A. Reiland and John Lyell - Wormholes - Solarwind
Diatonis - Edge of the Dream - none
James Johnson - The Butterfly Chamber - Hypnos
Mike Griffin and Dave Fulton - The Most Distant Point Known - Hypnos
Navigator - Oceanic Empire - Groove
Omnimotion - Omnimotion - Waveform
Oophoi - Athlit - Hypnos
Paul Ellis - Live at the Alladin - none
Paul Ellis and Craig Padilla - Various Cuts - none
Paul Nagle - Red Book/Blue Book - Neu Harmony
Ricochet Musos - Okefenokee Dreams 2001 - Neu Harmony and Quantum
Robert Rich and Ian Boddy - Outpost - DiN
Rudy Adrian - Concerts in New Zealand - Quantum
Rudy Adrian - Iridescence - Groove
Rudy Adrian - Starfields - Groove
Steve Roach and Jeffery Fayman - Trance Spirits - Projekt
Syn - Soundwave Traveller - Spheric
Various Artists - Voodoo Roux Deux - Waveform
vidnaObmana and Joris De Backer - The Oblique Fusion - none


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36382">
From: 

Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Fri Sep 27, 2002  3:48
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Radio show (was: EM list)


I do not understand the question?
--- Glenn Folkvord - Hyperion Media
<glenn@f...> wrote:
> See off-list message
> 
> Glenn
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: 'Admin' <admin@k...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 7:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [tadream] Radio show (was: EM list)
> 
> 
> > What if
> > 
> > You recorded it and sent it to one of us who can
> then stream it just not
> > live.
> 
> 
> 
>
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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36383">
From: 

'Yannick EDOM' <yannick.edom@s...> 
Date:  Fri Sep 27, 2002  12:03
pm
Subject:  Dreamwatchers' Tales III - News from the Contributors Wanted !


Hi everyone.

The Dreamwatchers' Tales III is still open.

I received some tracks but i'm still waiting for most of the contributors'
work.

Don't forget to send me the track or contact me to confirm (or not) the
contribution.

The closing date is still end of October.

The artworks is now mostly completed.

I currently have tracks for less than one CDR i hope to receive the
contribution this month.

Friendly from France

Yannick Edom
Mirage Créations
Champlain B7 A 101
47 Chemin de Pelleport
31500 TOULOUSE
FRANCE

e-mail : yannick.edom@s...

	
</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36384">
From: 

'Colin Jouxson' <convention24@y...> 
Date:  Fri Sep 27, 2002  6:53
pm
Subject:  Maroubra bay


The Voluptuous romantic tones,the incredible beauty of the Mellotron.
Edgar Froese is GOD.


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36385">
From: 
tadream@yahoogroups.com 
Date:  Sat Sep 28, 2002  7:33
am
Subject:  Poll results for tadream


The following tadream poll is now closed. Here are the 
final results: 


POLL QUESTION: Currently, when you click 'reply' to a 
tadream message, it goes back to the 
general list. Some may prefer that 
message instead be addressed to the 
original sender. Which would you 
prefer? 

CHOICES AND RESULTS
- 'reply to list', 33 votes, 91.67% 
- 'reply to sender', 3 votes, 8.33% 


For more information about this group, please visit 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tadream 

For help with Yahoo! Groups, please visit
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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36386">
From: 

'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...> 
Date:  Sat Sep 28, 2002  10:21
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] OT: Moog


Thats stange..... Dryden's my Family name!!!!!

Are there any Dryden's in Dryden?
Paulus.d_uk

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Administrator' <admin@k...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Moog


> It is usually near the front desk or near the area where contractors meet.
> At least out here at Dryden it is.
> Heck if it's like everywhere other place, it may be paper only or
somewhere
> else. GSA is another source to look as well.
>
> I am going to send you a note off list in a second.
>
> dale
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Owens, James' <james.owens@m...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 12:47 PM
> Subject: RE: [tadream] OT: Moog
>
>
> > I only found Moog because they make actuators. I knew that Bob Moog had
> > sold his company back in the 70's, so I mistakenly thought this was the
> same
> > company.
> >
> > As for the database, I'm sure there's one around here somewhere. I've
> never
> > seen it though...
> >
> > James
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Administrator [mailto:admin@k...]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 2:34 PM
> > To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Moog
> >
> >
> > cool
> >
> > Thanks for reminding me.. Did you also do a search on Roland, Korg, and
> > Yamaha etc? I seem to remember when I was active in bidding contracts
for
> > NASA I used a data base to see who where the contractors already and
what
> > projects. That database might still exist.
> >
> > Dale
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: 'Owens, James' <james.owens@m...>
> > To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 12:24 PM
> > Subject: [tadream] OT: Moog
> >
> >
> > > As my e-mail address indicates, I work for NASA (indirectly). My
> current
> > > project is finding suitable electro-mechanical actuators to move
rocket
> > > engine nozzles during launch. Interestingly enough, one of the major
> > > suppliers of actuators is MOOG!
> > >
> > > Seems that before making breakthroughs in Space Music, they were
making
> > > breakthroughs in Space Mechanisms (Moog actuators were used on all the
> > > Saturn rockets). If you're interested, this is a list of other
rockets
> > > they've supplied parts for:
> > > http://www.moog.com/noq/_general__c538/
> > >
> > > James
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> > > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> > >
> > > Tangerine Tree info at
> > > http://www.tadream.net/tree
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
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> > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> >
> > Tangerine Tree info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/tree
> >
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> >
> >
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> >
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> > http://www.tadream.net/tree
> >
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> >
> >
> >
>
>
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>
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>
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>
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>


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36387">
From: 

'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...> 
Date:  Sat Sep 28, 2002  3:53
pm
Subject:  [Off topic] Mike Oldfield's Songs of distant Earth


Sorry about Off topic conversation but, has anyone out there seen this
M.Oldfield Cd in its full glory?
It should have computer visuals set to the music-right?
Of course you needed a Apple Macintosh to do this!

Is or was there a way to see this on a Windows PC?
or has it been sort of released as a video clip?
Paulus.d_uk


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<MESSAGE index="36388">
From: 

Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Sat Sep 28, 2002  5:34
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] [Off topic] Mike Oldfield's Songs of distant Earth


Yes, I have and boy is it ever tremendous. Do you
also have the c.d. 5?

The disc was heard in its entirety on a previous radio
program of mine called #34;Sound Explorer.#34;
--- Paul Dryden <paulus.d@f...> wrote:
> Sorry about Off topic conversation but, has
anyone
> out there seen this M.Oldfield Cd in its full
glory?
> It should have computer visuals set to the
> music-right?
> Of course you needed a Apple Macintosh to do
this!
> 
> Is or was there a way to see this on a Windows
PC?
> or has it been sort of released as a video clip?
> Paulus.d_uk
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> 
> 
>
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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36389">
From: 

Chris Richards <kohntarkosz@y...> 
Date:  Sat Sep 28, 2002  5:46
pm
Subject:  Re: OT: Moog


Ya know, this talk about the Moog name reminds me
that sometime back, when I used to search for
synths on E-bay, I'd frequently enter a
particular brand name, ie 'Moog, 'ARP, etc.
Invariably when I entered in Moog, I got a lot of
things besides simply synths. There were a lot of
records listed (some of which didn't use
Moogs...I guess some people figured if an ARP
2600 was used extensively on a record, that was
good enough reason to list the name Moog when
listing it on E-bay), along with synths by other
manufacturers (an Oberheim OB-X might have the
names of three other synth manufacturers in the
listing, for some reason). 

You also got a lot of stuff that had nothing to
do with music. I guess there's a company that has
the name Moog in it that makes car parts (maybe
this is the same Moog Inc that supplies NASA
components?) and there's a hockey player named
Andy Moog, so you see a lot of collectibles
related to him. That was before I figured out how
to narrow down my search so I didn't get ten
thousand things unrelated to what I was looking
for. 

=====
May you never thirst!
The Scuba Diver Presently Known As Chris

'What do you get when you give a yo-yo to a flock of flamingos?'-James Earl
Jones

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<MESSAGE index="36390">
From: 

ampmusic <info@a...> 
Date:  Sat Sep 28, 2002  7:48
pm
Subject:  Re: [off topic] Oldfield, [on Topic] TD reviews


>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 16:53:47 +0100
> From: 'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...>
> Subject: [Off topic] Mike Oldfield's Songs of distant Earth
>
> Sorry about Off topic conversation but, has anyone out there seen this
M.Oldfield Cd in its full glory?
> It should have computer visuals set to the music-right?
> Of course you needed a Apple Macintosh to do this!
>
> Is or was there a way to see this on a Windows PC?
> or has it been sort of released as a video clip?
> Paulus.d_uk
>

[off topic] Oldfield
The animations on 'Songs of Distant Earth', created on Silicon Graphics
machines, were Macintosh only.
Some work from that period was transferred to PC though, and all the animation
on the new Mike Oldfield CD
'Tres Lunas' is PC-only. But Mike still uses Macintoshes for music.

For the full story, you can read the only major interview made about the album,
on the EMIX site

http://www.ampmusic.demon.co.uk/emix.html

and this includes quite a few large and never before seen photos.

[on topic] TD reviews

From the same index page, you can find the EMIX CD reviews site, with scores of
electronic music reviews
including many TD albums (there's also an extensive alphabetised Archives
section).

The last quarter's reviews include new releases from the Alfa Centauri show -
the next batch, to be posted
in coming weeks, will includes new releases at last week's E-Live festival.


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36391">
From: 

'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...> 
Date:  Sun Sep 29, 2002  1:46
am
Subject:  Classic Tree relaunched


I haven't had a chance to pick this project back up again over the last few
weeks, but after encouragement from Heiko and Joe I've decided to restart the
Classic Tree. Below is a list of the items that will be on offer, along with
some descriptions where necessary. Please note the number next to each item.


1. Reims Cathedral 13.12.1974 - FM Broadcast 2 discs

2. The Real Sohoman 22.02.1982 - FM 2 discs
The actual concert released on the Sohoman album, minus overdubs and with both
first and second sets. Replaces 'Outback Voices'

3. Strange Attractions 01.03.82 - FM 1 disc
Replaces 'Ratikon'

4. International Congress Center 15.11.82 - Soundboard 2 discs
Same music that appeared on TT#12, but recorded from the soundboard rather than
the audience. Replaces 'Logotypes'

5. Cologne 29.03.86 - FM 1 disc
6. Antarktis 01.08.87 - FM 1 disc
7. 20th Century Serenades 01.08.87 - FM 1 disc


That's ten discs in total. If you wish to participate in the tree, please go to
the database section at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tadream/database , select
'Classic Tree' and enter your details as follows:

Full Name
E-Mail
Location
Branch or Leaf
Number of leaves you will support
Preferred format - Redbook Audio CD's or SHN discs.
and finally, Tree volumes you want. As the tree will consist of common bootlegs
you will be able to nominate which discs you want to receive and avoid discs you
may already have.

Note the numbers next to each item in the list above. If, for example, you
already have Reims and Antarktis, you would enter the volumes you want as: 2, 3,
4, 5, 7

If you only want Cologne 1986, enter: 5

And if you want them all, enter: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7

If you have already e-mailed me about this Tree before, please signup on the
database anyway to make sure you're included.

The deadline for signing up will two weeks from now on Sunday 13th October.
After that I'll sort out the Tree structure.


Maff
_________________________________________________
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<MESSAGE index="36392">
From: 

Falcon <falcon@r...> 
Date:  Sun Sep 29, 2002  3:30
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Classic Tree relaunched


At 03:46 AM 9/29/2002, you wrote:
>I haven't had a chance to pick this project back up again over the last few
>weeks, but after encouragement from Heiko and Joe I've decided to restart the
>Classic Tree. Below is a list of the items that will be on offer, along with
>some descriptions where necessary. Please note the number next to each item.

Are these remastered versions or direct copies from the 'original' cd(r)s ?
Were some of these cdrs (not the cds like Live Improv.) taken from 
mastertapes or mastercopies ?

Ramon


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36393">
From: 

<jarek@w...> 
Date:  Sun Sep 29, 2002  7:04
am
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Classic Tree relaunched


Hi guys,

I've added myself to the database. But I can't modify my own record in the
table as I could in the TT2 table. The same problem occurs in the TT3 table.
Could anyone check this and correct it?

cheers

Jarek 'Jerry'
mailto:jarek@w...
Visit my websites at:
http://www.tangerinedream.pl/
http://www.klausmusic.pl/
http://www.wiktorowicz.pl/


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Sawyer [mailto:matthewsawyer@b...]
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 3:47 AM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [tadream] Classic Tree relaunched
>
>
> I haven't had a chance to pick this project back up again
> over the last few
> weeks, but after encouragement from Heiko and Joe I've
> decided to restart the
> Classic Tree. Below is a list of the items that will be on
> offer, along with
> some descriptions where necessary. Please note the number
> next to each item.
>
>
> 1. Reims Cathedral 13.12.1974 - FM Broadcast 2 discs
>
> 2. The Real Sohoman 22.02.1982 - FM 2 discs
> The actual concert released on the Sohoman album, minus
> overdubs and with both
> first and second sets. Replaces 'Outback Voices'
>
> 3. Strange Attractions 01.03.82 - FM 1 disc
> Replaces 'Ratikon'
>
> 4. International Congress Center 15.11.82 - Soundboard 2 discs
> Same music that appeared on TT#12, but recorded from the
> soundboard rather than
> the audience. Replaces 'Logotypes'
>
> 5. Cologne 29.03.86 - FM 1 disc
> 6. Antarktis 01.08.87 - FM 1 disc
> 7. 20th Century Serenades 01.08.87 - FM 1 disc
>
>
> That's ten discs in total. If you wish to participate in the
> tree, please go to
> the database section at
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tadream/database , select
> 'Classic Tree' and enter your details as follows:
>
> Full Name
> E-Mail
> Location
> Branch or Leaf
> Number of leaves you will support
> Preferred format - Redbook Audio CD's or SHN discs.
> and finally, Tree volumes you want. As the tree will consist
> of common bootlegs
> you will be able to nominate which discs you want to receive
> and avoid discs you
> may already have.
>
> Note the numbers next to each item in the list above. If, for
> example, you
> already have Reims and Antarktis, you would enter the volumes
> you want as: 2, 3,
> 4, 5, 7
>
> If you only want Cologne 1986, enter: 5
>
> And if you want them all, enter: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
>
> If you have already e-mailed me about this Tree before,
> please signup on the
> database anyway to make sure you're included.
>
> The deadline for signing up will two weeks from now on Sunday
> 13th October.
> After that I'll sort out the Tree structure.
>
>
> Maff
> _________________________________________________
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>
>
>
>
>
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> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
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> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36394">
From: 

'Admin' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Sun Sep 29, 2002  8:01
am
Subject:  me


I might miss a few posts in the new few days to week. I am tied up, real
busy with computer orders, music for the Dream Watcher, School and (Sick
Wife things).. of course not in that order. So please, if I missed anything,
mail or other item I should have responded too, send it again if I did not
respond. I just went thru 150 emails on one account for the last 2 days. I
got a few more accounts to look at still.

You might observed that this is rare for me to post such a thing. I am
overwhelmed with stuff right now. I did not want anyone to think I was
putting them off. I just hoped I did not miss anybody's mail in the last few
days.

Dale


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36395">
From: 

'Gary Jenkins' <hyperborea@b...> 
Date:  Sun Sep 29, 2002  8:53
am
Subject:  test


plaese ignore


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36396">
From: 
'Matthew Stringer' <qube@f...> 
Date:  Sun Sep 29, 2002  10:11
am
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Re: [off topic] Oldfield, [on Topic] TD reviews


There is a program to read Mac disks on a PC and enables you to watch
the quicktime files on it.

I can't remember what it's called though.

I'm sure a search on Google will point you in the right direction.

Matt


-----Original Message-----
From: ampmusic [mailto:info@a...] 
Sent: 28 September 2002 20:49
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] Re: [off topic] Oldfield, [on Topic] TD reviews

>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 16:53:47 +0100
> From: 'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...>
> Subject: [Off topic] Mike Oldfield's Songs of distant Earth
>
> Sorry about Off topic conversation but, has anyone out there seen this
M.Oldfield Cd in its full glory?
> It should have computer visuals set to the music-right?
> Of course you needed a Apple Macintosh to do this!
>
> Is or was there a way to see this on a Windows PC?
> or has it been sort of released as a video clip?
> Paulus.d_uk
>

[off topic] Oldfield
The animations on 'Songs of Distant Earth', created on Silicon Graphics
machines, were Macintosh only.
Some work from that period was transferred to PC though, and all the
animation on the new Mike Oldfield CD
'Tres Lunas' is PC-only. But Mike still uses Macintoshes for music.

For the full story, you can read the only major interview made about the
album, on the EMIX site

http://www.ampmusic.demon.co.uk/emix.html

and this includes quite a few large and never before seen photos.

[on topic] TD reviews

From the same index page, you can find the EMIX CD reviews site, with
scores of electronic music reviews
including many TD albums (there's also an extensive alphabetised
Archives section).

The last quarter's reviews include new releases from the Alfa Centauri
show - the next batch, to be posted
in coming weeks, will includes new releases at last week's E-Live
festival.


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36397">
From: 

'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...> 
Date:  Sun Sep 29, 2002  10:41
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: [off topic] Oldfield, [on Topic] TD reviews


Thanks-google search here I come!!!!-Paulus.d_uk
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Matthew Stringer' <qube@f...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 11:11 AM
Subject: RE: [tadream] Re: [off topic] Oldfield, [on Topic] TD reviews


> There is a program to read Mac disks on a PC and enables you to watch
> the quicktime files on it.
>
> I can't remember what it's called though.
>
> I'm sure a search on Google will point you in the right direction.
>
> Matt
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ampmusic [mailto:info@a...]
> Sent: 28 September 2002 20:49
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [tadream] Re: [off topic] Oldfield, [on Topic] TD reviews
>
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 16:53:47 +0100
> > From: 'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...>
> > Subject: [Off topic] Mike Oldfield's Songs of distant Earth
> >
> > Sorry about Off topic conversation but, has anyone out there seen this
> M.Oldfield Cd in its full glory?
> > It should have computer visuals set to the music-right?
> > Of course you needed a Apple Macintosh to do this!
> >
> > Is or was there a way to see this on a Windows PC?
> > or has it been sort of released as a video clip?
> > Paulus.d_uk
> >
>
> [off topic] Oldfield
> The animations on 'Songs of Distant Earth', created on Silicon Graphics
> machines, were Macintosh only.
> Some work from that period was transferred to PC though, and all the
> animation on the new Mike Oldfield CD
> 'Tres Lunas' is PC-only. But Mike still uses Macintoshes for music.
>
> For the full story, you can read the only major interview made about the
> album, on the EMIX site
>
> http://www.ampmusic.demon.co.uk/emix.html
>
> and this includes quite a few large and never before seen photos.
>
> [on topic] TD reviews
>
> From the same index page, you can find the EMIX CD reviews site, with
> scores of electronic music reviews
> including many TD albums (there's also an extensive alphabetised
> Archives section).
>
> The last quarter's reviews include new releases from the Alfa Centauri
> show - the next batch, to be posted
> in coming weeks, will includes new releases at last week's E-Live
> festival.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
>


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36398">
From: 

'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...> 
Date:  Sun Sep 29, 2002  11:51
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Classic Tree relaunched


From: 'Falcon' <falcon@r...>

> Are these remastered versions or direct copies from the 'original' cd(r)s ?


No remastered versions, these are CDR copies of the same discs in circulation
amongst traders at the moment. 


Maff
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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36399">
From: 

René Brenner <rene.brenner@f...> 
Date:  Sun Sep 29, 2002  2:30
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Classic Tree relaunched


Hi Maff

Is there any artwork in progress for these disks?

René

On Sun, Sep 29, 2002 at 12:51:37 +0100, Matthew Sawyer wrote:
> 
> From: 'Falcon' <falcon@r...>
> 
> > Are these remastered versions or direct copies from the 'original' cd(r)s ?
> 
> 
> No remastered versions, these are CDR copies of the same discs in circulation
> amongst traders at the moment. 

	
</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36400">
From: 

'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...> 
Date:  Sun Sep 29, 2002  2:45
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Classic Tree relaunched


From: 'René Brenner' <rene.brenner@f...>


> Is there any artwork in progress for these disks?


There won't be any special artwork produced for this tree. When distribution
starts you'll be able to download most of the original bootleg covers for
printing.


Maff


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36401">
From: 


Morgan Feldon <feldon@f...> 
Date:  Sun Sep 29, 2002  6:00
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Classic Tree relaunched


>Are these remastered versions or direct copies from the 'original' cd(r)s ?
>Were some of these cdrs (not the cds like Live Improv.) taken from
>mastertapes or mastercopies ?
>
>Ramon

They are direct copies from the original CDRs. In my opinion, to remaster 
these tapes would require changing aspects of the music. I prefer to hear 
it 'clean' since the recordings are already incredible. Just my opinion.

>1. Reims Cathedral 13.12.1974 - FM Broadcast 2 discs

It is unlikely that this double CDR, 'Live Improvised' will ever be 
improved upon. It already has an incredible sound quality.

>2. The Real Sohoman 22.02.1982 - FM 2 discs

Although there are dropouts, this is, to my knowledge, the best tape 
available. The sound quality on this is much better than Outback Voices.

>3. Strange Attractions 01.03.82 - FM 1 disc

A nearly spotless FM stereo recording. Although there is a lot of material 
we already have (Mojave Plan, Midnight in Tula, etc.), this is the best 
recording available of my favorite unreleased 1981-1983 gem, 'Thermal 
Inversion'. If you thought Raetikon sounded clear, you haven't heard 
anything yet!

>4. Berlin International Congress Center 15.11.82 - Soundboard 2 discs

Nearly identical, musically, to the Logos show. The official Logos CD 
includes the first 5 1/2 minutes of the first concert set and then jumps 
all the way to 11 minutes into the second concert set with a clever 
crossfade. Here, you get to hear the 35 minutes deleted from the first set.

>5. Cologne 29.03.86 - FM 1 disc

Very good sound quality here as well.

>6. Antarktis 01.08.87 - FM 1 disc
>7. 20th Century Serenades 01.08.87 - FM 1 disc

A spectacular recording of the final Chris Franke TD concert. There are 
rumors that a better recording of this may make itself available on a 
future tree, but for now, I don't see any harm in fans of 1986-87 TD 
wanting a copy of this. Note that many tracks on this were re-recorded in 
the studio a few weeks after the concert to fix bum notes and improve 
others. Having heard some of the audience tape for comparison, I really 
don't have a major malfunction with the changes.

As you can see from all the 'FM' and 'soundboard' indications, none of 
these are audience tapes.

-Morgan


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36402">
From: 


Morgan Feldon <feldon@f...> 
Date:  Sun Sep 29, 2002  6:01
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Classic Tree relaunched


>Hi Maff
>
>Is there any artwork in progress for these disks?
>
>René

Much to the chagrin of TD collectors, I may create new artwork for these 
discs as an optional download. I will leave no ambiguity that these are 
straight copies.

-Morgan


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36403">
From: 

'Robert Wear' <rwwear@b...> 
Date:  Sun Sep 29, 2002  6:44
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Digest Number 1514


The Mike Oldfield video for Songs of Distant Earth along with various other
artists videos used to be included with early Toshiba DVD players. Perhaps
you can locate one of these.

Robt. Wear

Message: 1
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 10:34:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...>
Subject: Re: [Off topic] Mike Oldfield's Songs of distant Earth

Yes, I have and boy is it ever tremendous. Do you
also have the c.d. 5?

The disc was heard in its entirety on a previous radio
program of mine called #34;Sound Explorer.#34;
--- Paul Dryden <paulus.d@f...> wrote:
> Sorry about Off topic conversation but, has
anyone
> out there seen this M.Oldfield Cd in its full
glory?
> It should have computer visuals set to the
> music-right?
> Of course you needed a Apple Macintosh to do
this!
>
> Is or was there a way to see this on a Windows
PC?
> or has it been sort of released as a video clip?
> Paulus.d_uk


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36404">
From: 

'John Marchington' <johnm@p...> 
Date:  Sun Sep 29, 2002  11:01
pm
Subject:  The Soundtracks project


Apologies if there has been previous discussion on this topic, but I've
signed up for the above project and it's been pointed out to me that there
would be copyright on all the official releases like 'Sorcerer',
'Flashpoint' etc , so I'm wondering where this material is coming from? If
its from thus-far unreleased music, are we going to be subjected to sections
of dialogue and other non-musical sounds?


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36405">
From: 

Felna Greymane <greymane@g...> 
Date:  Sun Sep 29, 2002  11:18
pm
Subject:  Classic Tree relaunched


I have a question about this also...

You indicate that #3 & #4 (for example) replace other boots already in
existence. What's the difference (besides the name) between these versions
and the older named fan copies?

Jeff

At 04:56 PM 9/29/2002 -0000, you wrote:
>Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 02:46:39 +0100
> From: 'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...>
>Subject: Classic Tree relaunched
>
>I haven't had a chance to pick this project back up again over the last few
>weeks, but after encouragement from Heiko and Joe I've decided to restart the
>Classic Tree. Below is a list of the items that will be on offer, along with
>some descriptions where necessary. Please note the number next to each item.
>
>
>1. Reims Cathedral 13.12.1974 - FM Broadcast 2 discs
>
>2. The Real Sohoman 22.02.1982 - FM 2 discs
>The actual concert released on the Sohoman album, minus overdubs and with
both
>first and second sets. Replaces 'Outback Voices'
>
>3. Strange Attractions 01.03.82 - FM 1 disc
>Replaces 'Ratikon'
>
>4. International Congress Center 15.11.82 - Soundboard 2 discs
>Same music that appeared on TT#12, but recorded from the soundboard rather
than
>the audience. Replaces 'Logotypes'
>
>5. Cologne 29.03.86 - FM 1 disc
>6. Antarktis 01.08.87 - FM 1 disc
>7. 20th Century Serenades 01.08.87 - FM 1 disc
> ...................ETC


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36406">
From: 

'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...> 
Date:  Sun Sep 29, 2002  11:32
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Classic Tree relaunched


From: 'Felna Greymane' <greymane@g...>

> You indicate that #3 & #4 (for example) replace other boots already in
> existence. What's the difference (besides the name) between these versions
> and the older named fan copies?


The differences would be either a better overall sound quality, or from a lower
gen source tape, or a more complete recording. I'll let Morgan detail the
specifics.


Maff


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36407">
From: 


Morgan Feldon <feldon@f...> 
Date:  Mon Sep 30, 2002  12:45
am
Subject:  Soundtracks


>John Marchington asked:
>
>Apologies if there has been previous discussion on this topic, but I've
>signed up for the above project and it's been pointed out to me that there
>would be copyright on all the official releases like 'Sorcerer',
>'Flashpoint' etc , so I'm wondering where this material is coming from? If
>its from thus-far unreleased music, are we going to be subjected to sections
>of dialogue and other non-musical sounds?

There's a reason it has not been posted on this list. :)

Nearly all of it has dialogue and sound effects. It's basically an upgrade 
in the sound quality of the existing similar project, 'Cinema Lost, Cinema 
Found'.

-Morgan


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36408">
From: 


Morgan Feldon <feldon@f...> 
Date:  Mon Sep 30, 2002  12:50
am
Subject:  Classic Tree relaunched


From: Felna Greymane <greymane@g...>
>Date: Sun Sep 29, 2002 6:18 pm

>You indicate that #3 & #4 (for example) replace other boots already in
>existence. What's the difference (besides the name) between these versions
>and the older named fan copies?
>
>Jeff

Reims Cathedral 13.12.1974 - FM Broadcast 2 discs
aka Live! Improvised! (already perfect)

Outback Voices -> The Real Sohoman
Big sound quality improvement, less dropouts

Raetikon/Fractal Realities -> Strange Attractions
MASSIVE sound quality improvement
if it weren't for Mr. '14 KHz' (Klaus B.), I'd call this studio release 
quality. :) :)

Logotypes -> Berlin ICC 1982
Significant sound quality improvement (less hiss, better dynamic range)

Cologne 29.03.86 - FM 1 disc
aka General Relativity

-Morgan


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<MESSAGE index="36409">
From: 

Falcon <falcon@r...> 
Date:  Mon Sep 30, 2002  5:18
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Classic Tree relaunched


At 02:50 AM 9/30/2002, you wrote:
>Raetikon/Fractal Realities -> Strange Attractions
>MASSIVE sound quality improvement
>if it weren't for Mr. '14 KHz' (Klaus B.), I'd call this studio release
>quality. :) :)

Mr. 14 KHz ?

Do you mean 14 KHz frequency range or 14 KHz sampling rate ? ;-)

Can you explain, please ?

Ramon


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36410">
From: 

'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Mon Sep 30, 2002  8:49
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Classic Tree relaunched


> >2. The Real Sohoman 22.02.1982 - FM 2 discs
>
>Although there are dropouts, this is, to my knowledge, the best tape
>available. The sound quality on this is much better than Outback Voices.
>
> >3. Strange Attractions 01.03.82 - FM 1 disc
>
>A nearly spotless FM stereo recording. Although there is a lot of material
>we already have (Mojave Plan, Midnight in Tula, etc.), this is the best
>recording available of my favorite unreleased 1981-1983 gem, 'Thermal
>Inversion'. If you thought Raetikon sounded clear, you haven't heard
>anything yet!


I apparently already have this best version of Thermal Inversion on a 
sampler I got from Morgan earlier. :) So I'd only need the 1st disk of The 
Real Sohoman (if I enrol this tree). Is this possible?


> >5. Cologne 29.03.86 - FM 1 disc
>
>Very good sound quality here as well.


Which 86 tour it was, that was supposed to be on a future TT - this or the 
other?
I'll wait for a TT version if there's ever going to be one.

John Vertical

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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36411">
From: 
'Brian Stewart' <pogofish@h...> 
Date:  Mon Sep 30, 2002  8:56
am
Subject:  Attn: Craig Cordery


Hi Craig.

I've been trying to get in touch with you about the tadream tree. Your 
Btinternet address bounces back to me. Could you mail me your current addy 
offlist?

Thanks in advance

Brian Stewart


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<MESSAGE index="36412">
From: 

Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> 
Date:  Mon Sep 30, 2002  9:02
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: OT: Moog


yes, in my area there is a laundry service and a
sausage factory both called Moog...

a.

Chris Richards wrote:

> Ya know, this talk about the Moog name reminds me
> that sometime back, when I used to search for
> synths on E-bay, I'd frequently enter a
> particular brand name, ie 'Moog, 'ARP, etc.
> Invariably when I entered in Moog, I got a lot of
> things besides simply synths. There were a lot of
> records listed (some of which didn't use
> Moogs...I guess some people figured if an ARP
> 2600 was used extensively on a record, that was
> good enough reason to list the name Moog when
> listing it on E-bay), along with synths by other
> manufacturers (an Oberheim OB-X might have the
> names of three other synth manufacturers in the
> listing, for some reason). 
> 
> You also got a lot of stuff that had nothing to
> do with music. I guess there's a company that has
> the name Moog in it that makes car parts (maybe
> this is the same Moog Inc that supplies NASA
> components?) and there's a hockey player named
> Andy Moog, so you see a lot of collectibles
> related to him. That was before I figured out how
> to narrow down my search so I didn't get ten
> thousand things unrelated to what I was looking
> for. 
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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36413">
From: 

Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> 
Date:  Mon Sep 30, 2002  9:11
am
Subject:  Classic Tree, TT3...


Hi,

I'm a bit confused now about the trees going on...

- what is the status of the TT3?

- Is the Classic Tree a seperate issue, or are recordings from
the CT to appear in TT3? I'd be *very* interested in some
CDs of the CT, but I want to avoid to get the same recordings
more than once...

maybe I should read the list more thoroughly, but - I have a job
to do which involves already far to much email...


thanks

armin

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<MESSAGE index="36414">
From: 

'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...> 
Date:  Mon Sep 30, 2002  1:08
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Classic Tree, TT3...


From: 'Armin Theissen' <Armin.Theissen@s...>

> - what is the status of the TT3?


In development, and probably won't start distribution until the new year. You
can sign up for TT3 by going to the group database page.


> - Is the Classic Tree a seperate issue, or are recordings from
> the CT to appear in TT3?


CT is very much a seperate project. The purpose is to spread the best quality
common bootlegs that were available before TT was concieved, which many people
here on the group may not be able to acquire copies of themselves. Some of the
bootlegs in CT are of such high quality that better quality copies may not be
possible (Reims 1974, for example). Could any of the CT shows turn up in a
remastered form in TT later? Sure, but with two TT sets on average per year and
none of these discs scheduled for TT3, that may not be for some time, if ever.
So we're giving you the opportunity to get them now.


> I'd be *very* interested in some
> CDs of the CT, but I want to avoid to get the same recordings
> more than once...


Then you're probably only going to be interested in Reims 74, Antarktis and 20th
Century Serenades. I'll see about posting a full track listing for each volume
to let everyone know the content of each disc (unless Morgan beats me to it :-).


Maff


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36415">
From: 

'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...> 
Date:  Mon Sep 30, 2002  1:35
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Classic Tree relaunched


From: 'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...>

> I apparently already have this best version of Thermal Inversion on a
> sampler I got from Morgan earlier. :) So I'd only need the 1st disk of The
> Real Sohoman (if I enrol this tree). Is this possible?


Yes. Sign up on the tree and request just volume 3. Then when you contact your
branch later, make arrangements at that point to just get disc 1.


Maff


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36416">
From: 

Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Mon Sep 30, 2002  1:39
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: [off topic] Oldfield, [on Topic] TD reviews


It is a bit difficult to run the disc, but worth the
effort. Also, I will the animation ran a bit longer. 
If you like the music on the disc you should check out
the c.d. single.

Wade
--- ampmusic <info@a...> wrote:
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 16:53:47 +0100
> > From: 'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...>
> > Subject: [Off topic] Mike Oldfield's Songs of
> distant Earth
> >
> > Sorry about Off topic conversation but, has anyone
> out there seen this M.Oldfield Cd in its full glory?
> > It should have computer visuals set to the
> music-right?
> > Of course you needed a Apple Macintosh to do this!
> >
> > Is or was there a way to see this on a Windows PC?
> > or has it been sort of released as a video clip?
> > Paulus.d_uk
> >
> 
> [off topic] Oldfield
> The animations on 'Songs of Distant Earth', created
> on Silicon Graphics machines, were Macintosh only.
> Some work from that period was transferred to PC
> though, and all the animation on the new Mike
> Oldfield CD
> 'Tres Lunas' is PC-only. But Mike still uses
> Macintoshes for music.
> 
> For the full story, you can read the only major
> interview made about the album, on the EMIX site
> 
> http://www.ampmusic.demon.co.uk/emix.html
> 
> and this includes quite a few large and never before
> seen photos.
> 
> [on topic] TD reviews
> 
> From the same index page, you can find the EMIX CD
> reviews site, with scores of electronic music
> reviews
> including many TD albums (there's also an extensive
> alphabetised Archives section).
> 
> The last quarter's reviews include new releases from
> the Alfa Centauri show - the next batch, to be
> posted
> in coming weeks, will includes new releases at last
> week's E-Live festival.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36417">
From: 

'braddito' <toby.braddick@u...> 
Date:  Mon Sep 30, 2002  2:15
pm
Subject:  Babylon 5 1st series DVD's


If anyone is interested, play.com are selling above region 2 set for 
GBP33.99 at present.

Regards
Toby


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36418">
From: 

Morgan Feldon <feldon@f...> 
Date:  Mon Sep 30, 2002  2:51
pm
Subject:  Classic Tree - Tracklistings


I'm sure I've made mistakes. Discs without track numbers are not indexed 
that way.

----------------------------------
Live! Improvised!
Reims Cathedral 13th December 1974

Set One 46:27
Set Two 36:24

There was no encore for this show. Every purported encore has turned out to 
be an excerpt of one of the main sets or from another show.

----------------------------------
Strange Attractions
Dallas Brooks Hall-Melbourne, Australia 1st March 1982

1. Mojave Plan 24:56
2. Thermal Inversion 13:33
3. Remote Viewing/Force Majeure 5:04
4. Ending 2:34
5. Choronzon 9:51
6. Midnight in Tula 3:58

7. Horns of Doom (1986) bonus 5:49
8. Unicorn Theme (1986) bonus 7:10

----------------------------------
The Real Sohoman
Sydney Regent Theater, Australia 22nd February 1982

Convention of the 24 9:40
White Eagle 4:36
Ayers Majestic 7:14
Logos (3) 5:50
Bondy Parade 13:00

Mojave Plan 25:00
Thermal Inversion 13:10
Remote Viewing/Force Majeure 5:00
Ending 2:40
Choronzon 9:30
Midnight in Tula 3:50

----------------------------------
Berlin ICC 15th November 1982

Logos 4:36
Hijack 2:54
Heritage Survival 5:22
Mirage 2:38
Sign in the Dark 4:41
The Night in Romania 3:54
Dreamscape 6:12
Choronzon 8:16
Tangent 3:51

Mojave Plan (dropouts)
Logos pts 2-9 39:15

----------------------------------
General Relativity
Cologne, Germany 29th March 1986

Intro 3:00
Stratosfear 6:04
Akash Deep 14:05
bridge 3:14
Zen Garden 5:05
Samba Motel/Scuba Scuba 4:45
outro 3:38
Piano Solo 4:35
Dolphin Dance 7:00
Cool Breeze Of Brighton (excerpt) 9:07

----------------------------------
Antarktis
Berlin Platz Der Republik (Republic Square) 1st August 1987

1. Livemiles Part 2 (1) (Caspian Sea) 8:08
2. Dolphin Smile 5:08
3. Civilized Illusions 4:27
4. Betrayal & Diamond Diary 6:28
5. Love On A Real Train 2:42
6. Canyon Voices 8:28
7. Zen Garden 4:48
8. Samba Motel/Scuba Scuba & outro 8:37
9. Piano Solo 7:06
10. Dolphin Dance 9:22

Bristol 6th November 1990
11. Betrayal-Sorcerer 3:27
12. Diamond Diary 3:10
13. Love on a Real Train 2:03

----------------------------------
20th Century Serenades
Berlin Platz Der Republik (Republic Square) 1st August 1987

1. Livemiles Part 2 (2) (Velvet Autumn/Sunnyvale)
2. Smile (instrumental)
3. Ride On The Ray
4. Going West
5. Yellowstone Park

Encores
6. Tyger (instrumental)
7. Tiergarten
8. 21st Century Common Man Part 1
9. A Time For Heroes

-Morgan

P.S. As a personal note, I always play The Real Sohoman set 1 and then 
Strange Attractions set 2 because of the sound quality difference.


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36419">
From: 

Christian Villazón <christian@u...> 
Date:  Mon Sep 30, 2002  6:56
pm
Subject:  TT2


Hello,
I have finally received the TT2 disks. I have only one word: EXCELLENT. I’d
like to thank all the people who make this possible. Specially to Heiko; to
Marko, Maff and Jobim for the great covers, all the people who make
available FTP Servers; and of course to Tangerine Dream and specially to
Edgar Froese for composing so great music and make this dream possible.

Greetings

Christian Villazón


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36420">
From: 

René Brenner <rene.brenner@f...> 
Date:  Mon Sep 30, 2002  9:57
pm
Subject:  Klaus Schulze 2 hours Live @ Radio Eins


Hello folks,

the following news can be found on KS' Rainhorse website:

On 27th of November from 23PM to 01AM you can listen for 2 hours a 
life-stream from Radio Eins. Olaf Zimmerman will interview Klaus Schulze. 
KS Website-Users can before hand mail questions regarding the interview and 
especially for the new release on Rainhorse Records to ozi@o... Olaf 
will try to influence his interview by your questions.

Regards
René


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36421">
From: 

Vincent Goudreault <vgoudreault@v...> 
Date:  Mon Sep 30, 2002  10:37
pm
Subject:  Classic tree


Help! After reading this, I though that I should put myself with #3 as well
(I have Raetikon already) but the system won't let me edit my own record!

Can anyone shed some light on this?


Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 13:00:07 -0500
From: Morgan Feldon <feldon@f...>
Subject: Re: Classic Tree relaunched


>3. Strange Attractions 01.03.82 - FM 1 disc

A nearly spotless FM stereo recording. Although there is a lot of material
we already have (Mojave Plan, Midnight in Tula, etc.), this is the best
recording available of my favorite unreleased 1981-1983 gem, 'Thermal
Inversion'. If you thought Raetikon sounded clear, you haven't heard
anything yet!


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<MESSAGE index="36422">
From: 

'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 1, 2002  12:26
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Classic tree


From: 'Vincent Goudreault' <vgoudreault@v...>

> Help! After reading this, I though that I should put myself with #3 as well
> (I have Raetikon already) but the system won't let me edit my own record!


Try it now.


Maff


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36423">
From: 

'Simon Slator' <simon@s...> 
Date:  Sat Sep 28, 2002  5:42
pm
Subject:  Re: [Off topic] Mike Oldfield's Songs of distant Earth


You can't run the interactivity without a Macintosh, but there is a way to
view all the quicktime videos on a Windows PC, but you need to have Linux
installed aswell! New versions of Linux can mount Macintosh discs (I tried
my TSoDE disc on Mandrake 7.1 and it worked fine) for you to grab the QT
movies.

The full instructions are in the FAQ at http://www.tubular.net

Hope this helps.

Simon.


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36424">
From: 

'tdcrjeff' <jeff.lester@t...> 
Date:  Mon Sep 30, 2002  9:35
pm
Subject:  Re: Classic Tree relaunched


--- In tadream@y..., 'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...> wrote:
> From: 'René Brenner' <rene.brenner@f...>
> 
> > Is there any artwork in progress for these disks?
> 
> There won't be any special artwork produced for this tree. When 
distribution
> starts you'll be able to download most of the original bootleg 
covers for
> printing.

It would be nice if high-res scans of the original artwork are 
included with the SHN files (either downloaded or burned to data 
discs).

-Jeff Lester


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36425">
From: 

Marko Marin <rubyconist@y...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 1, 2002  7:12
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] TT2


--- Christian_Villazón <christian@u...> wrote:
> Hello,
> I have finally received the TT2 disks. I have only
> one word: EXCELLENT. I’d
> like to thank all the people who make this possible.
> Specially to Heiko; to
> Marko, Maff and Jobim for the great covers, all the
> people who make
> available FTP Servers; and of course to Tangerine
> Dream and specially to
> Edgar Froese for composing so great music and make
> this dream possible.

Thanks. Btw, this is a bit... well, I found out why my
covers looked like that. You all know, a bit grainier
and muddier if compared to the work of Gustavo and
Matthew... My Photoshop has a resolution default,
which is only 72!!!! :-/ So, expect better covers next
time!! :-)

Regards,
Marko Marin

=====


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36426">
From: 

'Yensen, Stephen' <Stephen.Yensen@s...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 1, 2002  8:18
am
Subject:  Request for digests


As my hard disk crashed recently, I would like to send a plea to anyone who
has archived their tadream and tangerinedream digests. I know some of you
have done this. Unfortunately I was unable to save them to CD-ROM!

Tadream: What I'm looking for are all the August digests, #1434 to #1477
inclusive, and if you have #1483 that would be nice too.
Tangerinedream: digest nos #651, #652 and #688.

I could build up a mock-digest from the archived messages on Yahoo Groups
but I thought I'd try the easier softer way first ...

I'm sending this to both lists so apologies for the duplicate post (I'm also
on artofvision and goblinsclub but I think I've targeted most of you on
these)

Apologies for the off-topic but I must keep my collection complete!

Cheers,
Steve
in Nottingham, UK
- --
Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got till it's
gone ...


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36427">
From: 

Heiko Heerssen <heiko.heerssen@h...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 1, 2002  8:54
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] OT: Martin on tour


> Hi Folks.
> now for one slightly OT announcement. I will be on tour with my band
> Sepulcrum Mentis in roughly 1 week. So, if you're in the area of one of the
> shows and if you´re into prog-gothic-rock somewhere between Bauhaus, Bowie,
> Pink Floyd, The Mission and Black Sabbath, I´d be happy to see some of you
> around.

Yesterday I listened to Sepulcrum Mentis' latest CD 'Supergothinferno' (Martin
sent me a copy in exchange for the TT2 box set I gave him), and boy was I
surprised by the musical quality and the strength of the compositions (if I can
trust the credits Martin wrote 8 out of the 10 songs himself) . But the biggest
surprise for me were the lead vocals...Martin really is a great and
professional singer! The bands' music is quite unique in a way that I can't
come up with names of bands that I could quote as influences. They band uses a
violin which somehow reminded of the old Amon Düül 2 recordings, but that's
about it. Maybe 'prog-gothic-rock' is indeed the right word for it. Respect!
:-)

Heiko


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36428">
From: 
'Peter Ravn' <pr@r...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 1, 2002  10:08
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] OT: Martin on tour


Hi,

Thank god you're back Heiko

We miss you all - hope the hills in Norway wasn't too high ;-)

Kind Regards,
Peter Ravn

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Heiko Heerssen' <heiko.heerssen@h...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Martin on tour


>
>
> > Hi Folks.
> > now for one slightly OT announcement. I will be on tour with my band
> > Sepulcrum Mentis in roughly 1 week. So, if you're in the area of one of
the
> > shows and if you´re into prog-gothic-rock somewhere between Bauhaus,
Bowie,
> > Pink Floyd, The Mission and Black Sabbath, I´d be happy to see some of
you
> > around.
>
> Yesterday I listened to Sepulcrum Mentis' latest CD 'Supergothinferno'
(Martin
> sent me a copy in exchange for the TT2 box set I gave him), and boy was I
> surprised by the musical quality and the strength of the compositions (if
I can
> trust the credits Martin wrote 8 out of the 10 songs himself) . But the
biggest
> surprise for me were the lead vocals...Martin really is a great and
> professional singer! The bands' music is quite unique in a way that I
can't
> come up with names of bands that I could quote as influences. They band
uses a
> violin which somehow reminded of the old Amon Düül 2 recordings, but
that's
> about it. Maybe 'prog-gothic-rock' is indeed the right word for it.
Respect!
> :-)
>
> Heiko
>
>
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>
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> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36429">
From: 

Heiko Heerssen <heiko.heerssen@h...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 1, 2002  9:24
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] OT: Martin on tour


> hope the hills in Norway wasn't too high ;-)

no, but the rain was too wet! ;-))


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36430">
From: 

'gilleshemery2002' <gilles.hemery@j...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 1, 2002  11:24
am
Subject:  White Eagle Midi File >>>> www.gilleshemery.fr.fm


After many week of works, i terminate the transcription of White Eagle
in midi file. The version of the 1982 album. This file is available
in my web site :

www.gilleshemery.fr.fm

Friendly

Gilles


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36431">
From: 

Ken Beal <noir43@d...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 1, 2002  3:43
pm
Subject:  ISO: Joe Shoults


Sorry for the crosspost and bandwidth, but:

Anybody seen or heard from Joe lately?

Joe if you are out there please email me offlist. I have been trying to get
in contact with you for some time now.

This concerns TT#2.

Thanks,

Ken


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36432">
From: 

'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 1, 2002  4:24
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] OT: Martin on tour


Yes his works are great. He has many samples on his web site. I played a few
for others here and they liked it a lot. As one put it, 'It has a attitude'.

dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Heiko Heerssen' <heiko.heerssen@h...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 1:54 AM
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Martin on tour


>
>
> > Hi Folks.
> > now for one slightly OT announcement. I will be on tour with my band
> > Sepulcrum Mentis in roughly 1 week. So, if you're in the area of one of
the
> > shows and if you´re into prog-gothic-rock somewhere between Bauhaus,
Bowie,
> > Pink Floyd, The Mission and Black Sabbath, I´d be happy to see some of
you
> > around.
>
> Yesterday I listened to Sepulcrum Mentis' latest CD 'Supergothinferno'
(Martin
> sent me a copy in exchange for the TT2 box set I gave him), and boy was I
> surprised by the musical quality and the strength of the compositions (if
I can
> trust the credits Martin wrote 8 out of the 10 songs himself) . But the
biggest
> surprise for me were the lead vocals...Martin really is a great and
> professional singer! The bands' music is quite unique in a way that I
can't
> come up with names of bands that I could quote as influences. They band
uses a
> violin which somehow reminded of the old Amon Düül 2 recordings, but
that's
> about it. Maybe 'prog-gothic-rock' is indeed the right word for it.
Respect!
> :-)
>
> Heiko
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36433">
From: 

'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 1, 2002  4:34
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] White Eagle Midi File >>>> www.gilleshemery.fr.fm


I download some of your mp3 to listen too today, I will send you a note
after...

The scores look great ! Joe should add them to his collection.

dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'gilleshemery2002' <gilles.hemery@j...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 4:24 AM
Subject: [tadream] White Eagle Midi File >>>> www.gilleshemery.fr.fm


> After many week of works, i terminate the transcription of White Eagle
> in midi file. The version of the 1982 album. This file is available
> in my web site :
>
> www.gilleshemery.fr.fm
>
> Friendly
>
> Gilles
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36434">
From: 

Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 1, 2002  10:14
pm
Subject:  What is the track list for T.T.2. ?


I am trying to find the track list for T.T.2.. Could
someone reply to this e-mail with it or if not point
me in the right direction.

Wade

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<MESSAGE index="36435">
From: 

'tei waz' <teiwazbarana@h...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 1, 2002  10:19
pm
Subject:  wouldn't it be great if


wouldn't it be great if those old TD quad recordings were converted to 5.1 
surround or some other modern format????

--T

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From: 

Vincent Goudreault <vgoudreault@v...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 1, 2002  10:45
pm
Subject:  Re: Classic tree


Ayé! Ca marche!

Thanks!


Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 01:26:11 +0100
From: 'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...>
Subject: Re: Classic tree

From: 'Vincent Goudreault' <vgoudreault@v...>

> Help! After reading this, I though that I should put myself with #3 as
well
> (I have Raetikon already) but the system won't let me edit my own record!


Try it now.


Maff


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<MESSAGE index="36437">
From: 


Morgan Feldon <feldon@f...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 1, 2002  11:05
pm
Subject:  What is the track list for T.T.2. ?


>I am trying to find the track list for T.T.2.. Could
>someone reply to this e-mail with it or if not point
>me in the right direction.

>Wade

The tracklist is on the artwork contains this information.
http://www.feldoncentral.com/tdtree/

For even more in-depth concert information from 1980-, check out
John Burek & Mark Schaffer's TD Tour Descriptions
http://www.zebbyworld.demon.co.uk/Frames/Frameset2.html

-Morgan


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<MESSAGE index="36438">
From: 

'Yannick EDOM' <yannick.edom@s...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 2, 2002  7:01
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] wouldn't it be great if


Hi there

>
> wouldn't it be great if those old TD quad recordings were converted to 5.1
> surround or some other modern format????
>
I did encode some TD tracks on DTS format (the same format of the
Darklion/Olyam track in DWT 2)
The result is fabulous. Some parts are clearly in the rear speakers.
But for TD the best way is to remaster their work with the multitrack
original masters.

They already did this with the What a Blast DVD.
The soundtrack is very impressive.


Yannick Edom
Mirage Créations
Champlain B7 A 101
47 Chemin de Pelleport
31500 TOULOUSE
FRANCE

e-mail : yannick.edom@s...


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<MESSAGE index="36439">
From: 

'Duncan McKee' <tangram@t...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 2, 2002  8:47
am
Subject:  concert dvds


hi everyone
as some of you may know i have transfered a number of concert 
footage onto dvd and vcd this year. all that i have done has been 
has been thown away as i am going to re do them all using better 
hardware.
these will be available in the next few weeks

Athens, Greece 30-08-83 B/W
KlangArt 12-06-99 
Coventry Cathedral 75
Most Beautful Rock for Peace 
Valentine Wheels 
Poland 83

the hardware i am using is capable of transfering video to mpeg2 
format without losing any frames or quality.

i can accept either $6 (Note to Martin K. this covers the cost of 
the blanks, cases and postage)or two blank dvds (must be good brands 
as cheap ones only cause coasters)per dvd, what you will get is dvd 
case, covers and postage is included.

i am also searching for the following video tapes of TD
all must be pal and good quality
Goblins Club Live
Brussles 97
an evening in LA (1992)
a good copy of kansas 86 (if there is one)
sir theater 12-07-95
Inferno webcast
SBE 01 Webcast
Germany 90

i will happily trade the dvds i am going to do for the abover videos

if anyone is interested please let me know

Duncan
tangram@t...
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<MESSAGE index="36440">
From: 

'braddito' <toby.braddick@u...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 2, 2002  9:46
am
Subject:  TD tour programme scans wanted


A project is currently going on to try to get scans of TD tour 
programmes and ticket stubs. I'm currently working on the period 1974 
to 1983 and have UK 74, 76, 78, 81 and 82/3 (only 74 and 82/3 scanned 
at present).

If you have any programmes for this era that aren't listed and can 
scan them at 300 dpi (or would be prepared to lend to me to scan) I'm 
offering 2 TD music CDR's or a copy of the 'Programme CDR' per 
programme supplied.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Toby


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<MESSAGE index="36441">
From: 

'braddito' <toby.braddick@u...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 2, 2002  9:52
am
Subject:  Re: concert dvds


Duncan, I'm UK based and I think we have exchanged emails before. Can 
you tell me your cost per DVD in GBP ? Also, will the Coventry show 
have the real music restored, or the Ricochet edit ? Finally, do you 
have approx total timings for each title ?

Cheers
Toby

--- In tadream@y..., 'Duncan McKee' <tangram@t...> wrote:
> these will be available in the next few weeks
> 
> Athens, Greece 30-08-83 B/W
> KlangArt 12-06-99 
> Coventry Cathedral 75
> Most Beautful Rock for Peace 
> Valentine Wheels 
> Poland 83

> i can accept either $6 (Note to Martin K. this covers the cost of 
> the blanks, cases and postage)or two blank dvds (must be good 
brands 
> as cheap ones only cause coasters)per dvd, what you will get is dvd 
> case, covers and postage is included.


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From: 

Marko Marin <rubyconist@y...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 2, 2002  10:38
am
Subject:  [tadream] Zimmer & Franke/Off-topic: Zimmer


Just received by mail two great scores (both from Hans
Zimmer): Backdraft and Crimson Tide. The latter's main
theme is just wonderful and the use of choir brings
extra power for the rythms. Backdraft is calmer and
not so frantic, but still a pleasure!

I heard from a certain person that Chris Franke and
Hans Zimmer are friends. Is this true? That would be
funny as they are compared to each other all the time
(I mean their style mixing synths and orchestra).

Regards,
Marko Marin

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From: 
Synthhtnys@a... 
Date:  Wed Oct 2, 2002  11:21
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Zimmer & Franke/Off-topic: Zimmer


In a message dated 10/2/02 3:39:20 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
rubyconist@y... writes:

<< I heard from a certain person that Chris Franke and
Hans Zimmer are friends. Is this true? That would be
funny as they are compared to each other all the time
(I mean their style mixing synths and orchestra).

Regards,
Marko Marin
>>

*One of the most jaw dropping stories I read (as a synthesist) was that Chris
gave Hans his original Moog system... if that isn't a gesture of friendship 
I don't know what is! ;-)
Poly

	
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<MESSAGE index="36444">
From: 

'orangefunk_2000' <orangefunk_2000@y...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 2, 2002  11:39
am
Subject:  Re: concert dvds


Would like to know this too.

Also is the Poland video the one where they have the cut to a dancer 
every so often? And was this the actual Poland concert or just 
Poland material?

Cheers
orangefunk


--- In tadream@y..., 'braddito' <toby.braddick@u...> wrote:
> Duncan, I'm UK based and I think we have exchanged emails before. 
Can 
> you tell me your cost per DVD in GBP ? Also, will the Coventry show 
> have the real music restored, or the Ricochet edit ? Finally, do 
you 
> have approx total timings for each title ?
> 
> Cheers
> Toby
> 
> --- In tadream@y..., 'Duncan McKee' <tangram@t...> wrote:
> > these will be available in the next few weeks
> > 
> > Athens, Greece 30-08-83 B/W
> > KlangArt 12-06-99 
> > Coventry Cathedral 75
> > Most Beautful Rock for Peace 
> > Valentine Wheels 
> > Poland 83
> 
> > i can accept either $6 (Note to Martin K. this covers the cost of 
> > the blanks, cases and postage)or two blank dvds (must be good 
> brands 
> > as cheap ones only cause coasters)per dvd, what you will get is 
dvd 
> > case, covers and postage is included.


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<MESSAGE index="36445">
From: 


Morgan Feldon <feldon@f...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 2, 2002  5:57
pm
Subject:  Poland 83 video


>Also is the Poland video the one where they have the cut to a dancer
>every so often? And was this the actual Poland concert or just
>Poland material?
>
>Cheers
>orangefunk

Yes and Yes. It's the authentic evening Dec 10th, 1983 show and music. You 
can see Edgar, Chris, and Johannes playing in closeups quite a bit. No 
miming. :)

The sodding dancer and snapshots of mannequins and McDonald's drive me 
batty though. Show the band!!

-Morgan


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From: 
'Piotr \'Millennium\'' <sulas@a...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 2, 2002  6:11
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Poland 83 video


Hi,
Snapshots of mannequins and McDonald' s are not from Poland, restaurant
McDonald' s not existed in Poland in
1983 / 4


Pozdrawiam

Piotr S. 'Millennium'

http://www.astercity.net/~sulas/

>
> Yes and Yes. It's the authentic evening Dec 10th, 1983 show and music. You
> can see Edgar, Chris, and Johannes playing in closeups quite a bit. No
> miming. :)
>
> The sodding dancer and snapshots of mannequins and McDonald's drive me
> batty though. Show the band!!
>
> -Morgan


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<MESSAGE index="36447">
From: 

'tei waz' <teiwazbarana@h...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 2, 2002  6:56
pm
Subject:  re: concert DVDs/TDI shop shipping


>i can accept either $6 (Note to Martin K. this covers the cost of
the blanks, cases and postage)or two blank dvds (must be good brands
as cheap ones only cause coasters)per dvd, what you will get is dvd
case, covers and postage is included.

I dont think this price is unreasonable since just the shipping costs (w/o 
actually paying for product) for 1 CD from the TDI shop are as follows:

$4.50 in germany UPS
$7.20 austria (UPS)/benelux(UPS)/(europe postal mail)
$9.00 rest of world unregistered
$18.00 rest of world registered

--T


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From: 


Morgan Feldon <feldon@f...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 2, 2002  7:30
pm
Subject:  Warsaw 83 Video


Here are some snapshots:

http://www.feldoncentral.com/tddisc/warsaw83/


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From: 
Synthhtnys@a... 
Date:  Wed Oct 2, 2002  7:32
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] re: concert DVDs/TDI shop shipping


In a message dated 10/2/2002 12:17:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
teiwazbarana@h... writes:


> >i can accept either $6 (Note to Martin K. this covers the cost of
> the blanks, cases and postage)or two blank dvds (must be good brands
> as cheap ones only cause coasters)per dvd, what you will get is dvd
> case, covers and postage is included.
> 
> 

*I'm sorry, but I cannot find the original post for the DVD offer could 
someone repost it please as I'm very interested in some of these....
Thanks
Poly


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<MESSAGE index="36450">
From: 
'Roy Teale' <rteale@3...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 2, 2002  8:52
pm
Subject:  [tadream] TT2 signup


Is TT2 still open to sign-up? 
Roy

	
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<MESSAGE index="36451">
From: 

Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 2, 2002  9:22
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: [Off topic] Mike Oldfield's Songs of distant Earth


Thanks for the information. There be great clips on
this disc.

Wade
--- Simon Slator <simon@s...> wrote:
> You can't run the interactivity without a Macintosh,
> but there is a way to
> view all the quicktime videos on a Windows PC, but
> you need to have Linux
> installed aswell! New versions of Linux can mount
> Macintosh discs (I tried
> my TSoDE disc on Mandrake 7.1 and it worked fine)
> for you to grab the QT
> movies.
> 
> The full instructions are in the FAQ at
> http://www.tubular.net
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Simon.
> 
> 
> 
>
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<MESSAGE index="36452">
From: 

'Whiteley, Steve' <steve.whiteley@s...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 2, 2002  11:09
pm
Subject:  RE: include artwork with SHN files


Yes, this is what I've been thinking too. I still don't have all the artwork
for TT1 and TT2.
If we can please include the artwork with all the SHN projects we do, you
know it makes sense.

>Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 21:35:05 -0000
> From: 'tdcrjeff' <jeff.lester@t...>
>Subject: Re: Classic Tree relaunched
>
>>--- In tadream@y..., 'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...> wrote:
>> From: 'René Brenner' <rene.brenner@f...>
>> 
>> Is there any artwork in progress for these disks?
>> 
>> There won't be any special artwork produced for this tree. When 
distribution
>> starts you'll be able to download most of the original bootleg 
covers for
>> printing.

>It would be nice if high-res scans of the original artwork are 
>included with the SHN files (either downloaded or burned to data 
>discs).

>-Jeff Lester

	
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From: 

'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 3, 2002  12:08
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] RE: include artwork with SHN files


From: 'Whiteley, Steve' <steve.whiteley@s...>


> Yes, this is what I've been thinking too. I still don't have all the artwork
> for TT1 and TT2.


They're all available for download on the main TT artwork website at
www.mst3uk.com/tdtree and at the mirror site at www.feldoncentral.com/tdtree


> If we can please include the artwork with all the SHN
> projects we do, you know it makes sense.


I'll see if this can be arranged for TT3, though the artwork is not always ready
when the SHN discs are. As I'm handling the SHN's for Classic Tree I'll be able
to include the artwork on the discs.


Maff
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<MESSAGE index="36454">
From: 

'orangefunk_2000' <orangefunk_2000@y...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 3, 2002  4:29
am
Subject:  Re: Warsaw 83 Video


--- In tadream@y..., Morgan Feldon <feldon@f...> wrote:
> Here are some snapshots:
> 
> http://www.feldoncentral.com/tddisc/warsaw83/

Yeah looks the same..:-)

How do you know its the Poland concert though.. I don't remember 
anything displayed when I ahd the video (my copy was unbelievably 
poor mind you)

Also on the tape I had were the B/W Greek concert and crappy 
interview.. also I had a section where TD played Mojave Plan with an 
orchestra.. seemed like it was New Years Eve 81 or something not sure?

Also when I got the Poland video I was disappointed by the lack of 
any real playing.. when I listened to Poland prior I had visions of 
them all soloing together as there are some wonderful synth solos on 
POland.. but in reality it was just a backing tape and they added 
noises over the top... I did have a nice clip of Johannes doing a 
nice solo on a Jupiter 8 though which I wish they'd had on the 
released recording.

Oh for the days of this style of TD.. wonderful... thing is its still 
pretty modern sounding in a lot of respects... they could do this 
material today with updated sounds modern rhythms and people would 
think it was new.

Peace
Orangefunk


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<MESSAGE index="36455">
From: 

'miles macmillan' <mmacmillan@c...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 3, 2002  5:03
am
Subject:  TT2-Germany 1976


Hi Folks,

Just reading my emails here and listening to the Germany 1976 CD from TT2. The
piano section during the first one-third of track 2 (Mannheim Part Two) sounds
a lot like part of 'Echoes' by Pink Floyd. Anyone else notice this similarity?

Miles MacMillan


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<MESSAGE index="36456">
From: 


Morgan Feldon <feldon@f...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 3, 2002  6:12
am
Subject:  Re: Warsaw 83 video


>Orangefunk posted:
>
>Yeah looks the same..:-)
>
>How do you know its the Poland concert though.. I don't remember
>anything displayed when I ahd the video (my copy was unbelievably
>poor mind you)

Because it can't be anything else.

>Also on the tape I had were the B/W Greek concert and crappy
>interview.. also I had a section where TD played Mojave Plan with an
>orchestra.. seemed like it was New Years Eve 81 or something not sure?

Athens concert was
1983.08.30 Athens Lycabettus Theater

1981 concert with Mojave Plan + Orchestra, plus Kiew Mission with live 
lyrics was:
1981.12.09 Munich Circuskrone

>Also when I got the Poland video I was disappointed by the lack of
>any real playing.. when I listened to Poland prior I had visions of
>them all soloing together as there are some wonderful synth solos on
>POland.. but in reality it was just a backing tape and they added
>noises over the top... I did have a nice clip of Johannes doing a
>nice solo on a Jupiter 8 though which I wish they'd had on the
>released recording.

Are you seeing the same video I'm seeing?

I heard absolutely no backing tape and everything was being played live as 
sequences except tape loops for drums. There are a ton of close-up shots 
where you can see Edgar and Johannes playing the notes you're hearing. 
Except for the stupid ballet dancer and mannequins and storefronts, it's an 
awesome video. It was the last time TD played 100% live.

-Morgan


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From: 


Morgan Feldon <feldon@f...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 3, 2002  6:13
am
Subject:  Re: Warsaw 83 video


>Orangefunk posted:
>
>Yeah looks the same..:-)
>
>How do you know its the Poland concert though.. I don't remember
>anything displayed when I ahd the video (my copy was unbelievably
>poor mind you)

Just want to add that Edgar is wearing the same exact red shirt and the 
audience shots match perfectly the 1983 Warsaw, Poland photo in the 1986 TD 
North America tour book (if you are looking for evidence).

-Morgan


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<MESSAGE index="36458">
From: 

Marko Marin <rubyconist@y...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 3, 2002  9:42
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Zimmer & Franke


--- Synthhtnys@a... wrote:
> *One of the most jaw dropping stories I read (as a
> synthesist) was that Chris
> gave Hans his original Moog system... if that isn't
> a gesture of friendship 
> I don't know what is! ;-)
> Poly

'Can I see it?'
'Well of course.'
'Oh, it's so big.'
'Naturally.'
'Can I touch it?'
'Go ahead.'
'Wow! It's amazing.'
'Well then, you can have it.'

Okay, I don't want that image in my mind again! ;-)

Regards,
Marko Marin

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From: 

'orangefunk_2000' <orangefunk_2000@y...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 3, 2002  1:58
pm
Subject:  Re: Warsaw 83 video


> 
> Are you seeing the same video I'm seeing?
> 

I think so, but if you're sure they are playing 100% live then I 
really don't know. I remember them playing notes but they were 
pretty simple things and not really the leads I'd expect.

FWIW I'm a musician myself and play jazz piano so I can tell when 
someone is bluffing and pretending to play (The CHris Franke video I 
had on an AMP concert circa early 90s was really obvious miming) but 
then it is a long time ago I saw that video.


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<MESSAGE index="36460">
From: 

Craig Padilla <craigpadilla@u...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 1, 2002  4:05
am
Subject:  New to list, and the Trees


Hello.
I've really joined this list because I, too, really enjoy the music of
Tangerine Dream. (I honestly don't know what the heck took me sooo long to
join!) This band has been a huge influence on my electronic music that I
compose and release through various music labels:
'VOSTOK' - released on the Spotted Peccary Music label, 51 minutes of
long-form ambient music, getting great reviews! (Check out the latest review
at http://synthmusicdirect.com )
http://spottedpeccary.com

'FOLDING SPACE AND MELTING GALAXIES' and 'TEMPORAL SUSPENSION - released on
the Space For Music label, both have been receiving wonderful reviews and
getting much airplay! ('FS&MG' is more influenced by Tangerine Dream with a
hint of Jarre and Schulze.)
http://spaceformusic.com/craigpadilla

I've been listening to Tangerine Dream since I first discovered 'FORCE
MAJEURE' back in 1986! I was hooked on Tangerine Dream BIGTIME once I heard
this album. I didn't realize soooo many bootlegs of Tangerine Dream existed
until I got on the internet a few years ago.

Sometime within the last couple years, a fellow named Tom (?) whose last name
eludes me contacted me regarding a tree for music created by fans of Tangerine
Dream, but I lost contact with him when I lost numerous emails (a long story)
and so I never was able to receive it.

But when I joined this list last week, I've noticed that there are more
'trees' and am only a little confused about how these work. The way I
understand it is that I send some blank CD's to a person with return postage
and they get sent back with music on it. (Is this correct?) It almost sounds
too good to be true...

Therefore, I'd like to join the other fans in participating in this tree
thing, especially if Tangerine Dream doesn't plan on releasing this material
anyway. (I'd feel like a kid in a candy store just hearing all this 'unheard'
music!) If there is more to the trees than I'm reading into, please let me
know.

Anyway, if anybody is interested in hearing my music (and I gladly thank
Tangerine Dream for helping to bring this music to the public in the first
place), please check out my hours of free downloads at:
http://mp3.com/craigpadilla
There are two new live excerpts from my recent improvised performance online
(very 'berlin-school') but there are many more melodious pieces online, too.

And if anybody is interested in checking out the photos (lots of gear shots)
from my recent concerts last month, please check out:
http://www.craigpadilla.com

Thanks for listening to ramble, and for taking the time to listen to my music.
Your support is greatly appreciated. And any advise regarding the trees is
much appreciated, as well.

Yours musically,
Craig
http://mp3.com/craigpadilla
http://craigpadilla.com


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<MESSAGE index="36461">
From: 

'Gibbons, Conrad' <conrad.gibbons@l...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 3, 2002  2:27
pm
Subject:  TD Book Writer gives TD 'Anthology' bad review


Paul Stump writes a scathing review of TD's latest release 'Anthology' in this
month's 'Uncut magazine... so much for loyalty!

I can post all the text if there is sufficient interest...

Also - anyone having difficulty purchasing TDI merchandise from the TDI
web-page? I was unable to complete my transaction as it said I had not entered
certain fields even though I had!

Oh well!!!

Regards,

Conrad Gibbons

	
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<MESSAGE index="36462">
From: 

'Owens, James' <james.owens@m...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 3, 2002  2:28
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Re: Warsaw 83 Video


>How do you know its the Poland concert though.. I don't remember anything
displayed when I ahd the video (my copy was unbelievably poor mind you)

I haven't seen my video in a long time, but I seem to recall a 'station
identification' running on the screen just prior to the concert start. It
clearly showed 'PAGART' which is the same word that the announcer speaks at
the start of the Poland album. (I believe this was something like the Polish
ministry of art or some such).


>Also when I got the Poland video I was disappointed by the lack of any real
playing

As I recall, I nearly wet myself watching the boys play live (in good
quality). I had seen the Ricochet vid prior to this, so I was actually
quite pleased to see them really playing live. 

Remember that by nature a lot of electronic music is 'performed' by some
piece of equipment. The skill lies in timing and 'hearing' how things go
together before they actually go together. A lot of the solos would have
arpeggiators (especially Chris Franke's stuff), delays, and other things
that make them time differently than the actual finger strokes on the keys.
I figure that accounts for a lot of the 'mimed' look.


>I did have a nice clip of Johannes doing a nice solo on a Jupiter 8 though
which I wish they'd had on the 
released recording.

Is that the one from the Munich '81 concert (Mojave Plan with orchestra)?

I seem to remember there being a section where Johannes is kicked back
dragging on a cigarette, then suddenly he realizes his solo's coming up. He
drops the cig. just in time to get his fingers on the keys...

James

	
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<MESSAGE index="36463">
From: 

Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 3, 2002  2:48
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] TD Book Writer gives TD 'Anthology' bad review


Hi,


Gibbons, Conrad wrote:

> Paul Stump writes a scathing review of TD's latest release
> 'Anthology' in this month's 'Uncut magazine... so much for loyalty!
>
> I can post all the text if there is sufficient interest...

sure, always interested.

I didn't liked his book (digial gothic) either. His 'critique'
doesn't have any foundation, its just his opinion... I could
have written this, except that I don't know so many exotic
english adjectives...

a.


>
> Also - anyone having difficulty purchasing TDI merchandise from the
> TDI web-page? I was unable to complete my transaction as it said I
> had not entered certain fields even though I had!
>
> Oh well!!!
>
> Regards,
>
> Conrad Gibbons
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_- To
> unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com 
----------------------------------------------------_-
>

> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


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<MESSAGE index="36464">
From: 

'orangefunk_2000' <orangefunk_2000@y...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 3, 2002  3:00
pm
Subject:  Re: Warsaw 83 Video


No it was a clip of the first track on the Poland CD where it goes 
into the hypnotic end sequence and then fades, perhaps not the Poland 
concert though itslef just the same material.. can't remember exactly.

The track had Johannes playing chromatic lines on a Jupiter 8 and 
then switching to the PPG Wave for big brassy chords.. that section 
certainly was live and a real treat... don't think it was the Poland 
vid though..


> >I did have a nice clip of Johannes doing a nice solo on a Jupiter 
8 though
> which I wish they'd had on the 
> released recording.
> 
> Is that the one from the Munich '81 concert (Mojave Plan with 
orchestra)?
> 
> I seem to remember there being a section where Johannes is kicked 
back
> dragging on a cigarette, then suddenly he realizes his solo's 
coming up. He
> drops the cig. just in time to get his fingers on the keys...
> 
> James


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<MESSAGE index="36465">
From: 

'Michael Jean' <michaeljean@e...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 3, 2002  3:18
pm
Subject:  Inferno sans vocals


I wonder if there is any chance we'll get to hear INFERNO without the vocals...
I would be interested in hearing it that way. In all candor, I've never much
cared for any of Janey Klimek's work... I often wonder how it might have
sounded with a different vocalist, like Caroline LaVelle, Loreena McKennitt, or
even Maggie Reilly.

Regards,


Michael A. Jean
The Brookings Institution
1775 Massachusetts Avenue, N.W.
Washington, DC 20036-2188

TEL: (202)-797-6214
FAX: (202)-797-2479 
EMAIL: mjean@b...
http://www.brookings.edu 


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<MESSAGE index="36466">
From: 

'tei waz' <teiwazbarana@h...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 3, 2002  3:35
pm
Subject:  calling craig padilla


From: Craig Padilla <craigpadilla@u...>

>Sometime within the last couple years, a fellow named Tom (?) whose last 
>name
eludes me contacted me regarding a tree for music created by fans of 
Tangerine
Dream, but I lost contact with him when I lost numerous emails (a long 
story)
and so I never was able to receive it. <

that would be me--contact me off-list. I've got those discs somewhere....

--T


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<MESSAGE index="36467">
From: 

atye@a... 
Date:  Thu Oct 3, 2002  4:23
pm
Subject:  new Tangerine Tree (well, sorta.....)


<A
HREF='http://www.loonyverse.com/shockwave.html'>http://www.loonyverse.com/shockw\
ave.html</A>

look on the right hand menu......

ATYE


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<MESSAGE index="36468">
From: 

'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 3, 2002  6:02
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] TD Book Writer gives TD 'Anthology' bad review


send it off list to me, I would like to see the article.. I am not sure list
would like the post due to the other responses I seen.

dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Gibbons, Conrad' <conrad.gibbons@l...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 7:27 AM
Subject: [tadream] TD Book Writer gives TD 'Anthology' bad review


> Paul Stump writes a scathing review of TD's latest release 'Anthology' in
this month's 'Uncut magazine... so much for loyalty!
>
> I can post all the text if there is sufficient interest...
>
> Also - anyone having difficulty purchasing TDI merchandise from the TDI
web-page? I was unable to complete my transaction as it said I had not
entered certain fields even though I had!
>
> Oh well!!!
>
> Regards,
>
> Conrad Gibbons
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


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<MESSAGE index="36469">
From: 

<jarek@w...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 3, 2002  6:19
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Re: Warsaw 83 Video


PAGART is an abbreviation of Panstwowa AGencja ARTystyczna which means The
National Artistic Agency.

cheers

Jarek 'Jerry'
mailto:jarek@w...
Visit my websites at:
http://www.tangerinedream.pl/
http://www.klausmusic.pl/
http://www.wiktorowicz.pl/


> I haven't seen my video in a long time, but I seem to recall
> a 'station
> identification' running on the screen just prior to the
> concert start. It
> clearly showed 'PAGART' which is the same word that the
> announcer speaks at
> the start of the Poland album. (I believe this was something
> like the Polish
> ministry of art or some such).
>


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36470">
From: 

'goozergrafx' <goozer@a...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 3, 2002  7:51
pm
Subject:  Re: Warsaw 83 video


--- In tadream@y..., 'orangefunk_2000' <orangefunk_2000@y...> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Are you seeing the same video I'm seeing?
> > 
> 
> I think so, but if you're sure they are playing 100% live then I 
> really don't know. I remember them playing notes but they were 
> pretty simple things and not really the leads I'd expect.
> 
> FWIW I'm a musician myself and play jazz piano so I can tell when 
> someone is bluffing and pretending to play (The CHris Franke video I 
> had on an AMP concert circa early 90s was really obvious miming) but 
> then it is a long time ago I saw that video.

Ohhhhh...steady on there, mate. Some here might take offence at your
slight of Mr. Franke! ; )

Not me, though. I made the same observation waaaaaaaaaay back when the
'live vs. memorex' debate began. Some were trying to posit that Chris'
departure led to the need to use more in the way of 'backing tapes',
so I suggested that those who had the London '90 video look and see
just how much 'live' playing he does. In fact, it's his collaborator,
Richard Roth, that does the miming for the leads! 


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<MESSAGE index="36471">
From: 

'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 3, 2002  8:40
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] TD Book Writer gives TD 'Anthology' bad review


From: 'Gibbons, Conrad' <conrad.gibbons@l...>


> Paul Stump writes a scathing review of TD's latest release
> 'Anthology' in this month's 'Uncut magazine... so much for loyalty!
> 
> I can post all the text if there is sufficient interest...


Yes please Conrad.


Maff


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<MESSAGE index="36472">
From: 

atye@a... 
Date:  Thu Oct 3, 2002  9:49
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] TD Book Writer gives TD 'Anthology' bad review


In a message dated 10/3/2002 4:52:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
matthewsawyer@b... writes:

> From: 'Gibbons, Conrad' <conrad.gibbons@l...>
> 
> 
> >Paul Stump writes a scathing review of TD's latest release
> >'Anthology' in this month's 'Uncut magazine... so much for loyalty!
> >
> >I can post all the text if there is sufficient interest...
> 

Am I incorrect, or is this 'Anthology' a Castle release and NOT an official 
TDI release ?? 

ATYE


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<MESSAGE index="36473">
From: 

René Brenner <rene.brenner@f...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 3, 2002  10:15
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] TD Book Writer gives TD 'Anthology' bad review


On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 17:49:22 -0400, atye@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 10/3/2002 4:52:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> matthewsawyer@b... writes:
> 
> > From: 'Gibbons, Conrad' <conrad.gibbons@l...>
> > 
> > 
> > >Paul Stump writes a scathing review of TD's latest release
> > >'Anthology' in this month's 'Uncut magazine... so much for loyalty!
> > >
> > >I can post all the text if there is sufficient interest...
> > 
> 
> Am I incorrect, or is this 'Anthology' a Castle release and NOT an official 
> TDI release ?? 

Yes it's a castle release containing 3 CDs in slim cases.

Rene

	
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<MESSAGE index="36474">
From: 

'Jim Moore' <moxica@a...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 3, 2002  11:50
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] TD Book Writer gives TD 'Anthology' bad review


I don't recall him being such a big fan to begin with -- though he did
like to pour on the big adjectives...

-----Original Message-----
From: Gibbons, Conrad [mailto:conrad.gibbons@l...] 

Paul Stump writes a scathing review of TD's latest release 'Anthology'
in this month's 'Uncut magazine... so much for loyalty!


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36475">
From: 

'Steve Yensen' <Stephen.Yensen@s...> 
Date:  Fri Oct 4, 2002  8:00
am
Subject:  Re: New to list, and the Trees


Welcome Craig. It's about time!

To all tadream members: you must have a listen to this guy's music -
'The Eye Of The Storm' simply rocks!

Cheers,

Steve
in Nottingham UK

--- In tadream@y..., Craig Padilla <craigpadilla@u...> wrote:
> Hello.
> I've really joined this list because I, too, really enjoy the music 
of
> Tangerine Dream. (I honestly don't know what the heck took me sooo 
long to
> join!)


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36476">
From: 

Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> 
Date:  Fri Oct 4, 2002  8:56
am
Subject:  OT: KS CWII


sorry, slightly off topic...

anybody here already hooked on Klaus Schulze's 'Contemporary
Works II'? Listened to 2 out of 5+1 (got the bonus as well ;-) )
CDs and its absolutely stunning...

and very good (technical) article in the booklet reprinted from
the KS Circle (to which, I start to think, I should subscribe... )

cheers

armin

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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36477">
From: 

'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Fri Oct 4, 2002  9:17
am
Subject:  TT issues; Horns of Doom


1) What's this TT3 subscription database? I though that people who listed as 
'permanent' last time don't need to enrol again?

2) Wow, I almost exploded after seeing that 'Ship your boots to Berlin!' ad 
on the TT2 wrapper...
On the other hand, I was surprized to know that disc labels have been made 
for TT1 too. Was this ever announced? I originally thought 'I'll rather keep 
my collection homogenous than print disc labels for all but the first 8 
volumes'.
Oh well, looks like more ink will soon be spent...

3) I've noticed that besides repeating the main theme twice, my Electronic 
Orgy version of Horns of Doom also has this bass theme which is absent from 
TT vol.14 - is this a studio addition or an alternative live version? 
(Morgan, I suppose at least you know? ;)

John Vertical

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<MESSAGE index="36478">
From: 

'Paul Lawler' <lawlermusic@b...> 
Date:  Fri Oct 4, 2002  9:18
am
Subject:  OT New Album


Just a bit of shameless promotion :)
My new album as Max Van Richter (Arcane founder member etc) is out now from
www.synthmusicdirect.com . Its like Arcane but with a twist .

commercial over , back to TD 

Paul


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<MESSAGE index="36479">
From: 

'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...> 
Date:  Fri Oct 4, 2002  10:14
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] TT issues; Horns of Doom


From: 'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...>


> 1) What's this TT3 subscription database? I though that people who listed as
> 'permanent' last time don't need to enrol again?


Presumably they dont. Those who did not sign up as permanent will need to be
able to sign up to each individual tree volume as it comes along. I'm down as
'permanent' but I've signed up again for TT3 just to make sure.


> 2) Wow, I almost exploded after seeing that 'Ship your boots to Berlin!' ad
> on the TT2 wrapper...
> On the other hand, I was surprized to know that disc labels have been made
> for TT1 too. Was this ever announced? I originally thought 'I'll rather keep
> my collection homogenous than print disc labels for all but the first 8
> volumes'.


Yeah, they were announced when I first put them together. All labels, covers and
wrappers can be downloaded from the main site at www.mst3uk.com/tdtree


> Oh well, looks like more ink will soon be spent...


And you'll all need even more ink than that if a little project I have in mind
for TT3 works out... :-)


Maff


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<MESSAGE index="36480">
From: 

Falcon <falcon@r...> 
Date:  Fri Oct 4, 2002  10:34
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] OT New Album


At 11:18 04.10.2002, you wrote:
>Just a bit of shameless promotion :)
>My new album as Max Van Richter (Arcane founder member etc) is out now from
>www.synthmusicdirect.com . Its like Arcane but with a twist .
>
>commercial over , back to TD

Shame on you !!! ;-)

Going to order it now. . .

Ramon


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36481">
From: 

Marko Marin <rubyconist@y...> 
Date:  Fri Oct 4, 2002  11:28
am
Subject:  [tadream] Artwork for the next tree


Could everyone who are providing cover artwork contact
me off-list as I would like to know how many covers do
you want to do, etc. Sorry about this but I don't have
all the adresses yet from the new people.

Regards,
Marko Marin

=====


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<MESSAGE index="36482">
From: 

cosmos1@w... 
Date:  Fri Oct 4, 2002  11:31
am
Subject:  last day !!


here are some related items i don't need anymore.
take a look and see if you can use them.
regards
andre

anthony phillips cd
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=910073490

king crimson video
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frank zappa video
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<MESSAGE index="36483">
From: 

Dan K <dxkim@y...> 
Date:  Fri Sep 27, 2002  10:50
pm
Subject:  Tangerine Tree 2 ftp sites?


Sorry my friends, but I've been out of it for a while.
I'm curious, has anyone put the Tangerine Tree 2 files
on an ftp site as was done on the last Tree? I prefer
the shins but would accept the CD audio version. 

I appreciate it if anyone would reply to me (privately
if you wish) with the ftp site, password, etc. I'm in
a remote area currently so mail is a difficulty. But I
do have a high speed internet connection. Would like
to listen to these now instead of wait until I have a
better mail drop.

Any help is very much appreciated. Thanks!


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<MESSAGE index="36484">
From: 


'Alysoun' <alysoun@c...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 3, 2002  11:46
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] TD Book Writer gives TD 'Anthology' bad review


Paul Stumpp seems to hate everything but King Crimson and Gentle Giant, it
seems.
And he's pompous as well.

Back to lurking,

Allison

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Gibbons, Conrad' <conrad.gibbons@l...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 10:27 AM
Subject: [tadream] TD Book Writer gives TD 'Anthology' bad review


> Paul Stump writes a scathing review of TD's latest release 'Anthology' in
this month's 'Uncut magazine... so much for loyalty!
>
> I can post all the text if there is sufficient interest...
>
> Also - anyone having difficulty purchasing TDI merchandise from the TDI
web-page? I was unable to complete my transaction as it said I had not
entered certain fields even though I had!
>
> Oh well!!!
>
> Regards,
>
> Conrad Gibbons
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From: 

'Fred Yargui' <fredericyargui@w...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 3, 2002  10:49
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Warsaw 83 Video


Thanx a lot, Morgan, for the pics :-)
Cheers,

Fred

----- Original Message ----- 
From: 'Morgan Feldon' <feldon@f...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 9:30 PM
Subject: [tadream] Warsaw 83 Video


> Here are some snapshots:
> 
> http://www.feldoncentral.com/tddisc/warsaw83/
> 
>> 


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<MESSAGE index="36486">
From: 

'fozziebear' <fozziebear.beehive@b...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 3, 2002  8:31
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Inferno sans vocals


Michael Jean said 'I wonder if there is any chance we'll get to hear
INFERNO without the vocals... I would be interested in hearing it that way.
In all candor, I've never much cared for any of Janey Klimek's work... I
often wonder how it might have sounded with a different vocalist, like
Caroline LaVelle, Loreena McKennitt, or even Maggie Reilly.'

Michael I think you are a volume of the Divine Comedy ahead of yourself.
You are listening to Inferno not Purgatory!

David


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<MESSAGE index="36487">
From: 

Jonathan Holt <plantpot_73@y...> 
Date:  Fri Oct 4, 2002  4:03
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] TD Book Writer gives TD 'Anthology' bad review


I'd like to read that review also, please...

--- Matthew Sawyer <matthewsawyer@b...>
wrote:
> From: 'Gibbons, Conrad' <conrad.gibbons@l...>
> 
> 
> > Paul Stump writes a scathing review of TD's latest
> release
> > 'Anthology' in this month's 'Uncut magazine... so
> much for loyalty!
> > 
> > I can post all the text if there is sufficient
> interest...
> 
> 
> Yes please Conrad.
> 
> 
> Maff
> 
> 
> 
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<MESSAGE index="36488">
From: 

'Herbert' <gae@g...> 
Date:  Fri Oct 4, 2002  5:32
pm
Subject:  AW: [tadream] TD Book Writer gives TD 'Anthology' bad review


One more vote asking to send the review :))

> -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Jonathan Holt [mailto:plantpot_73@y...]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 4. Oktober 2002 18:03
> An: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: Re: [tadream] TD Book Writer gives TD 'Anthology' bad review
> 
> 
> I'd like to read that review also, please...
> 
> --- Matthew Sawyer <matthewsawyer@b...>
> wrote:
> > From: 'Gibbons, Conrad' <conrad.gibbons@l...>
> > 
> > 
> > > Paul Stump writes a scathing review of TD's latest
> > release
> > > 'Anthology' in this month's 'Uncut magazine... so
> > much for loyalty!
> > > 
> > > I can post all the text if there is sufficient
> > interest...
> > 
> > 
> > Yes please Conrad.
> > 
> > 
> > Maff
> > 
> > 
> > 
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<MESSAGE index="36489">
From: 

'Conrad Gibbons' <conrad.gibbons@l...> 
Date:  Fri Oct 4, 2002  6:13
pm
Subject:  TD 'Anthology' review by Paul Stump


The following text is from page 120 of the October 2002 edition of 'Uncut'
magazine:

TANGERINE DREAM
Anthology
Castle/Sanctuary (1.5 stars out of 5)

Three CDs from Berlin outfit squaring circle between krautrock, prog and
ambient

There has, over the years, been some insensitive treatment of Tangerine
Dream and their astounding Moog-powered fusion of Germanic avant-garde,
gothic and romantic elements which took rock further towards classical music
than prog ever did. This set starts well enough, effectively summing up the
transformation of the band from Floydian, cellar-based Berlin situationist
noisemakers in 1970 ('Genesis', 'Cold Smoke') through the more systematic
marriage of Stockhausen soundscaping and incense-misted hippie
transcendentalism ('Sunrise In The Third System'). But it omits the
fascinating refinement of that style into the world-conquering electronic
legend of the Seventies, instead leapfrogging ahead to 1983, when the band's
tick-tock sequencer runs and synth washes had lapsed into anaemic and
telegraphed self-parody ('Poland'). This was due to a quite shameless bid
for post-Kraftwerk commercial acceptance. The result, as is heard on the
third disc, is some pf the most pretentious muzak ever committed to disc:
soulless, humourless, worthless.

Paul Stump.


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<MESSAGE index="36490">
From: 

'Gary Jenkins' <hyperborea@b...> 
Date:  Fri Oct 4, 2002  6:59
pm
Subject:  Re: OT New Album


--- In tadream@y..., 'Paul Lawler' <lawlermusic@b...> wrote:
> Just a bit of shameless promotion :)
> My new album as Max Van Richter (Arcane founder member etc) is out 
now from
> www.synthmusicdirect.com . Its like Arcane but with a twist .
> 
> commercial over , back to TD 
> 
> Paul

I have it already another Classic from Paul(Max)very highly 
recommended.

Cheers Gary


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<MESSAGE index="36491">
From: 

'Herbert' <gae@g...> 
Date:  Fri Oct 4, 2002  7:01
pm
Subject:  AW: [tadream] TD 'Anthology' review by Paul Stump


Boah.
This makes me shiver. Without a online dictionary I would have been nearly
lost. :-))
Such a aggregation of pretentious/pompous sentences ;-)

4.0 stars for languge.
0.5 stars for content.

Herbert

> -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Conrad Gibbons [mailto:conrad.gibbons@l...]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 4. Oktober 2002 20:13
> An: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: [tadream] TD 'Anthology' review by Paul Stump
>
>
>
> The following text is from page 120 of the October 2002
> edition of 'Uncut'
> magazine:
>
> TANGERINE DREAM
> Anthology
> Castle/Sanctuary (1.5 stars out of 5)
>
> Three CDs from Berlin outfit squaring circle between
> krautrock, prog and
> ambient
>
> There has, over the years, been some insensitive treatment of
> Tangerine
> Dream and their astounding Moog-powered fusion of Germanic
> avant-garde,
> gothic and romantic elements which took rock further towards
> classical music
> than prog ever did. This set starts well enough, effectively
> summing up the
> transformation of the band from Floydian, cellar-based Berlin
> situationist
> noisemakers in 1970 ('Genesis', 'Cold Smoke') through the
> more systematic
> marriage of Stockhausen soundscaping and incense-misted hippie
> transcendentalism ('Sunrise In The Third System'). But it omits the
> fascinating refinement of that style into the
> world-conquering electronic
> legend of the Seventies, instead leapfrogging ahead to 1983,
> when the band's
> tick-tock sequencer runs and synth washes had lapsed into anaemic and
> telegraphed self-parody ('Poland'). This was due to a quite
> shameless bid
> for post-Kraftwerk commercial acceptance. The result, as is
> heard on the
> third disc, is some pf the most pretentious muzak ever
> committed to disc:
> soulless, humourless, worthless.
>
> Paul Stump.
>
>
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<MESSAGE index="36492">
From: 


Morgan Feldon <feldon@f...> 
Date:  Fri Oct 4, 2002  8:00
pm
Subject:  Paul Stump


>TANGERINE DREAM
>Anthology
>Castle/Sanctuary (1.5 stars out of 5)
>
>Three CDs from Berlin outfit squaring circle between krautrock, prog and
>ambient
>
>Paul Stump.

This fool makes it sound like TD released the album or even had a hand in 
choosing the track sequence. What a joke.

And I have no respect for a man who does not like Poland.

-Morgan


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<MESSAGE index="36493">
From: 

'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Fri Oct 4, 2002  8:30
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Paul Stump


'And I have no respect for a man who does not like Poland.'

A qualified for respect huh? unless you make a exception for me, I got a
show in ....

;-)


Back to the article, I seen worst as well as miss quoted. I wonder who reads
this?
I say it's no harm to TD or anyfan of TD.

dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Morgan Feldon' <feldon@f...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 1:00 PM
Subject: [tadream] Paul Stump


>
> >TANGERINE DREAM
> >Anthology
> >Castle/Sanctuary (1.5 stars out of 5)
> >
> >Three CDs from Berlin outfit squaring circle between krautrock, prog and
> >ambient
> >
> >Paul Stump.
>
> This fool makes it sound like TD released the album or even had a hand in
> choosing the track sequence. What a joke.
>
> And I have no respect for a man who does not like Poland.
>
> -Morgan
>
>
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<MESSAGE index="36494">
From: 
Victor Rek <tangerinedream@a...> 
Date:  Fri Oct 4, 2002  8:21
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Paul Stump


From:	Morgan Feldon [SMTP:feldon@f...]

And I have no respect for a man who does not like Poland.

Me too. Vic


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<MESSAGE index="36495">
From: 

Jonathan Holt <plantpot_73@y...> 
Date:  Fri Oct 4, 2002  9:26
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Paul Stump


--- Morgan Feldon <feldon@f...> wrote:
> 
> >TANGERINE DREAM
> >Anthology
> >Castle/Sanctuary (1.5 stars out of 5)
> >
> >Three CDs from Berlin outfit squaring circle
> between krautrock, prog and
> >ambient
> >
> >Paul Stump.
> 
> This fool makes it sound like TD released the album
> or even had a hand in 
> choosing the track sequence. What a joke.
> 
> And I have no respect for a man who does not like
> Poland.
> 
> -Morgan

I thought it was supposed to be a review, not an
obvious hatchet job. Still, I'm glad this got posted,
just makes me more convinced that it's the rest of the
world that's mad.

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<MESSAGE index="36496">
From: 

'Marcel Engels' <mengels@w...> 
Date:  Fri Oct 4, 2002  10:13
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] TD Book Writer gives TD 'Anthology' bad review


> From: Alysoun [mailto:alysoun@c...] 
> 
> Paul Stumpp seems to hate everything but King Crimson and 
> Gentle Giant, it seems. And he's pompous as well.

Well Gentle Giant is very good though.

Marcel
http://home.wanadoo.nl/mengels
mengels@w...


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36497">
From: 

'Bill Fox' <billfox@f...> 
Date:  Sat Oct 5, 2002  12:25
am
Subject:  EMUSIC Playlist #289


[ Best viewed using a fixed spacing font. ]

EMUSIC is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday
at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton,
PA and Phillipsburg, NJ.

Show #289 October 3, 2002.


RECAP:
On this show, I started a month-long focus on ambient guitarist Jeff Pearce, 
who will play at The Gathering on the 19th. The Featured CD at midnight was
'The Light Beyond' on the Hypnos label.

The Vinyl Starter was from the LP 'White Noise 2' by David Vorhaus on the
Virgin label.

I played the music of artists who will be performing at the next Gathering,
which will feature Jeff Pearce with Mike Griffin and Dave Fulton.

Jeff Pearce http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic/playlists/2002/focus02.html#oct
The Gathering http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic/events.html


PLAYLIST:

ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label)
======================= ======================== ==============================
11:04 pm
David Vorhaus Movement II (part 2) White Noise 2 (Virgin)
vidnaObmana Echoes of Steel: IV An Opera for Four Fusion Works
(Hypnos)
Jeff Greinke Wide View Wide View (Hypnos)
Mike Griffin and Tectonic The Most Distant Point Known
Dave Fulton (Hypnos)
Keith Fullerton Whitman track3a(2waynice) Playthroughs (Kranky)
Mark Jenkins The Ceremony of Sequencer Loops (AMP)
Innocence

12:00 am
Jeff Pearce Migration of Souls The Light Beyond (Hypnos)
Jeff Pearce Across the Infinite Sea The Light Beyond (Hypnos)
Jeff Pearce A Farther Shore The Light Beyond (Hypnos)
Jeff Pearce The Light Beyond The Light Beyond (Hypnos)

1:00 am

* = exerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)


NEXT SHOW:
On the next EMUSIC, I'll continue the month-long focus on Jeff Pearce who uses
the guitar to create synth-like soundscapes. The Featured CD at Midnight will
be 'Vestiges' on the Jeff Pearce Music label.

The vinyl show starter will be from the LP 'TONTO's Expanding Head Band' by
Robert Marouleff and Malcolm Cecil on the Atlantic label.

I will play the music of artists who will be performing at the next Gathering,
which will feature Jeff Pearce with Mike Griffin and Dave Fulton.


Bill
===============================================================================
Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at
11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and
Phillipsburg. http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic
Host of the AM/FM Show on WMUH Allentown 91.7 FM every other Saturday at 6 am.
Host of Afterglow on WMUH every Thursday morning from 8:00 to 9:30.
http://soundscapes.us/~bill/amfm http://soundscapes.us/~bill/afterglow
Radio Station Web Sites: http://wdiy.org http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh
Personal site: http://soundscapes.us/~bill
To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, go to
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emusic-wdiy and click on [Join This Group!]
SOUNDSCAPES Concert Series: http://soundscapes.us


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<MESSAGE index="36498">
From: 

'corporalcripp' <rwoltanski@h...> 
Date:  Fri Oct 4, 2002  7:00
pm
Subject:  New to the list, but a long time TD fan


Hey all, just got in on the group a half an hour ago, but I bought 
my first TD album back in '73.Alpha Centauri on the German OHR 
label.I loved it, my friends thought I had lost it.Ahead of my time, 
apparently.Anyway I want to get in on the TT mailing list-here's my 
info
Robert Woltanski
rwoltanski@h...
Phila., Pa. N.E. USA
LEAF
Redbook
would like only from TT2
VOL. 9,11,13,14


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<MESSAGE index="36499">
From: 

'Alysoun' <alysoun@c...> 
Date:  Fri Oct 4, 2002  11:30
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] TD Book Writer gives TD 'Anthology' bad review


Marcel:

I agree that GG is a wonderful band as well.
But he seems to put down most everything else.

Allison

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Marcel Engels' <mengels@w...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 6:13 PM
Subject: RE: [tadream] TD Book Writer gives TD 'Anthology' bad review


> > From: Alysoun [mailto:alysoun@c...]
> >
> > Paul Stumpp seems to hate everything but King Crimson and
> > Gentle Giant, it seems. And he's pompous as well.
>
> Well Gentle Giant is very good though.
>
> Marcel
> http://home.wanadoo.nl/mengels
> mengels@w...
>
>
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>
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>
>


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<MESSAGE index="36500">
From: 

'Gert Jalass' <gjalass@b...> 
Date:  Sat Oct 5, 2002  7:31
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] concert dvds


Duncan,

pls keep me updated about their availability - I'm HIGHLY interested in
getting them ...

Gert
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Duncan McKee' <tangram@t...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 10:47 AM
Subject: [tadream] concert dvds


> hi everyone
> as some of you may know i have transfered a number of concert
> footage onto dvd and vcd this year. all that i have done has been
> has been thown away as i am going to re do them all using better
> hardware.
> these will be available in the next few weeks
>
> Athens, Greece 30-08-83 B/W
> KlangArt 12-06-99
> Coventry Cathedral 75
> Most Beautful Rock for Peace
> Valentine Wheels
> Poland 83
>
> the hardware i am using is capable of transfering video to mpeg2
> format without losing any frames or quality.
>
> i can accept either $6 (Note to Martin K. this covers the cost of
> the blanks, cases and postage)or two blank dvds (must be good brands
> as cheap ones only cause coasters)per dvd, what you will get is dvd
> case, covers and postage is included.
>
> i am also searching for the following video tapes of TD
> all must be pal and good quality
> Goblins Club Live
> Brussles 97
> an evening in LA (1992)
> a good copy of kansas 86 (if there is one)
> sir theater 12-07-95
> Inferno webcast
> SBE 01 Webcast
> Germany 90
>
> i will happily trade the dvds i am going to do for the abover videos
>
> if anyone is interested please let me know
>
> Duncan
> tangram@t...
> www.tadream.co.uk
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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<MESSAGE index="36501">
From: 

'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Sat Oct 5, 2002  8:38
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Paul Stump


>'And I have no respect for a man who does not like Poland.'
>
>A qualified for respect huh? unless you make a exception for me, I got a
>show in ....
>
>;-)
>
>
>Back to the article, I seen worst as well as miss quoted. I wonder who 
>reads
>this?
>I say it's no harm to TD or anyfan of TD.
>
>dale
>
> > >TANGERINE DREAM
> > >Anthology
> > >Castle/Sanctuary (1.5 stars out of 5)
> > >
> > >Three CDs from Berlin outfit squaring circle between krautrock, prog 
>and
> > >ambient
> > >
> > >Paul Stump.


I don't quite like the review either (too much strict personal opinions & 
too little real reviewing) but if you're saying 'I don't like people who 
don't like TD', that's being elitistic. Frankly, there's nothing that would 
make TD better than other bands in some absolute sense - these are just our 
opinions.

Of course, there are bands like TD which may be more creative, liked, or 
succesful than others; but that's nothing about being better than others.

BTW, Paul Stump happens to be a distant friend of my dad, from the Gentle 
Giant mailing list. I asked him about Paul and he said something about him 
being 'not a very likeable person'...
What sort of a review this was? A customer-sent one or an official one? If 
it's the former type, I wouldn't be worried (and vice versa).

John Vertical

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<MESSAGE index="36502">
From: 

'Daniel Hobrecht' <dhobrecht@a...> 
Date:  Sat Oct 5, 2002  11:01
am
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Digest Number 1520


And I have no respect for a man who does not like
> Poland.
> 
> -Morgan

Agreed!


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36503">
From: 

Jonathan Holt <plantpot_73@y...> 
Date:  Sat Oct 5, 2002  2:18
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] concert dvds


Will these be available in Region 1 format?

--- Gert Jalass <gjalass@b...> wrote:
> Duncan,
> 
> pls keep me updated about their availability - I'm
> HIGHLY interested in
> getting them ...
> 
> Gert
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Duncan McKee' <tangram@t...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 10:47 AM
> Subject: [tadream] concert dvds
> 
> 
> > hi everyone
> > as some of you may know i have transfered a number
> of concert
> > footage onto dvd and vcd this year. all that i
> have done has been
> > has been thown away as i am going to re do them
> all using better
> > hardware.
> > these will be available in the next few weeks
> >
> > Athens, Greece 30-08-83 B/W
> > KlangArt 12-06-99
> > Coventry Cathedral 75
> > Most Beautful Rock for Peace
> > Valentine Wheels
> > Poland 83
> >
> > the hardware i am using is capable of transfering
> video to mpeg2
> > format without losing any frames or quality.
> >
> > i can accept either $6 (Note to Martin K. this
> covers the cost of
> > the blanks, cases and postage)or two blank dvds
> (must be good brands
> > as cheap ones only cause coasters)per dvd, what
> you will get is dvd
> > case, covers and postage is included.
> >
> > i am also searching for the following video tapes
> of TD
> > all must be pal and good quality
> > Goblins Club Live
> > Brussles 97
> > an evening in LA (1992)
> > a good copy of kansas 86 (if there is one)
> > sir theater 12-07-95
> > Inferno webcast
> > SBE 01 Webcast
> > Germany 90
> >
> > i will happily trade the dvds i am going to do for
> the abover videos
> >
> > if anyone is interested please let me know
> >
> > Duncan
> > tangram@t...
> > www.tadream.co.uk
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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> >
>
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> >
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> > http://www.tadream.net/tree
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> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> 
> 
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> 
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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36504">
From: 

Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Sat Oct 5, 2002  5:48
pm
Subject:  Off Topic-'Sound Explorer'


To make it easier for people to find and hear my radio
program 'Sound Explorer' all you have to do is type in
my name 'Wade Gordon' in any search engine.

Also, very, very soon the radio program will be on a
major commercial network available primarily to the
East Coast Corridor and also the West Coast of the
USA.

Wade

__________________________________________________
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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36505">
From: 

'Bill Fox' <billfox@f...> 
Date:  Sat Oct 5, 2002  6:22
pm
Subject:  The AM/FM Show Playlists #8 and #9


[ Best viewed using a fixed spacing font. ]

The Saturday AM/FM Show is hosted every other week by Bill Fox who plays
electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other
genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am on WMUH Allentown on 91.7 FM and
on the internet. Send me comments if you love or hate what I played. I also
host Afterglow every Thursday from 8 am to 9:30 am.


Show #8 September 28, 2002.


RECAP:
I started with spacemusic and moved through some eclectic genres of music,
ending with some progressive rock. Along the way, I played the music of Jeff
Pearce and Mike Griffin & Dave Fulton who will play at the next Gathering on
October 19.


PLAYLIST:


Phase I/Space:

ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label)
======================= ======================== ==============================
Jeff Pearce Lattice of Memory Songs for the Gathering (none)
Mike Griffin and Curved Beyond Zero The Most Distant Point Known
Dave Fulton (Hypnos)
SYN Soundwave Traveller Soundwave Traveller (Spheric)

Phase II/Eclectic:

ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label)
======================= ======================== ==============================
Rasa Sri Rupa Manjari In Concert (Hearts of Space)
VA [Five O'clock Tomorrow Never Knows Come Together (Hot Lips)
Shadow]
George Martin Come Together In My Life (Echo)
Richard Shulman The Dream Camelot Reawakened (Richhart)
Ed Gerhard Because of You, This House of Guitars (Virtue)
Tommy Emmanuel Blue Moon The Very Best Of (Sony)
Billy McLaughlin The Bow and Arrow The Bow and Arrow (Proton
Discs)
Lunasa Eanair Lunasa (Compass)
Lunasa Donogh and Mike The Merry Sisters of Fate
(Green Linnet)

Phase III/Progressive Rock:

ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label)
======================= ======================== ==============================
Echolyn Mei * Mei (Velveteen)

* = exerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)

-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+


Show #9 October 5, 2002.


RECAP:
I started with spacemusic and moved through a number of Beatle covers, ending
with some progressive rock. Along the way, I played the music of Jeff Pearce
and Mike Griffin & Dave Fulton who will play at the next Gathering on October
19.


PLAYLIST:


Phase I/Space:

ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label)
======================= ======================== ==============================
Mike Griffin and Dark Observer The Most Distant Point Known
Dave Fulton (Hypnos)
Jeff Pearce Inner Light Daylight Slowly (Hypnos)
Wavestar Early Voyages Out of Time (Groove)
SYN Sonus (Part 3) Soundwave Traveller (Spheric)

Phase II/Eclectic:

ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label)
======================= ======================== ==============================
Ed Gerhard Junk House of Guitars (Virtue)
George Martin Because In My Life (Echo)
VA [Toxic Audio] All I've Got To Do Come Together (Hot Lips)
VA [Eddie Vedder] You've Got To Hide Your I Am Sam (V2)
Love Away
VA [The Tufts I Am the Walrus Come Together (Hot Lips)
Beelzebubs]
VA [The Bobs] Strawberry Fields Come Together (Hot Lips)
Forever
VA [Heather Nova] We Can Work It Out I Am Sam (V2)
VA [Howie Day] Help! I Am Sam (V2)

Phase III/Progressive Rock:

ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label)
======================= ======================== ==============================
Iluvatar Sojourns A Story Two Days Wide
(Kinesis)
Porcupine Tree The Sound of Muzak In Absentia (Lava)
Mike Oldfield In the Beginning The Songs of Distant Earth
(Reprise)
Spock's Beard South Side of the Sky Snow (InsideOut)
VA [Glass Hammer] Time Marches On Progday Encore 5 (Progday)
Ozone Quartet Thief Fresh Blood (Flat Five)

* = exerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)


Bill
===============================================================================
Host of the AM/FM Show on WMUH Allentown 91.7 FM every other Saturday at 6 am.
Host of Afterglow on WMUH every Thursday morning from 8:00 to 9:30.
http://soundscapes.us/~bill/amfm http://soundscapes.us/~bill/afterglow
Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at
11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and
Phillipsburg. http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic
Radio Station Web Sites: http://wdiy.org http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh
Personal site: http://soundscapes.us/~bill
SOUNDSCAPES Concert Series: http://soundscapes.us


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36506">
From: 

'Admin' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Sat Oct 5, 2002  9:21
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Paul Stump


Small world huh?
reference > BTW, Paul Stump happens to be a distant friend of my dad, from
the Gentle
> Giant mailing list. I asked him about Paul and he said something about him
> being 'not a very likeable person'...
> What sort of a review this was? A customer-sent one or an official one? If
> it's the former type, I wouldn't be worried (and vice versa).
>
> John Vertical


While some of the stuff said might be viewed as being true, after reading
some of the reviews in this area on local shows, TD's review here was on the
nice side. Hollywood here can be tough.
I am not in league with his review however. I think it too lacked objective
judgment.

Dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 1:38 AM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Paul Stump


> >'And I have no respect for a man who does not like Poland.'
> >
> >A qualified for respect huh? unless you make a exception for me, I got a
> >show in ....
> >
> >;-)
> >
> >
> >Back to the article, I seen worst as well as miss quoted. I wonder who
> >reads
> >this?
> >I say it's no harm to TD or anyfan of TD.
> >
> >dale
> >
> > > >TANGERINE DREAM
> > > >Anthology
> > > >Castle/Sanctuary (1.5 stars out of 5)
> > > >
> > > >Three CDs from Berlin outfit squaring circle between krautrock, prog
> >and
> > > >ambient
> > > >
> > > >Paul Stump.
>
>
> I don't quite like the review either (too much strict personal opinions &
> too little real reviewing) but if you're saying 'I don't like people who
> don't like TD', that's being elitistic. Frankly, there's nothing that
would
> make TD better than other bands in some absolute sense - these are just
our
> opinions.
>
> Of course, there are bands like TD which may be more creative, liked, or
> succesful than others; but that's nothing about being better than others.
>
> BTW, Paul Stump happens to be a distant friend of my dad, from the Gentle
> Giant mailing list. I asked him about Paul and he said something about him
> being 'not a very likeable person'...
> What sort of a review this was? A customer-sent one or an official one? If
> it's the former type, I wouldn't be worried (and vice versa).
>
> John Vertical
>
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> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
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> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36507">
From: 

'Admin' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Sat Oct 5, 2002  9:23
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] concert dvds


This is very important to most of us !

Unless you got a multi-regional one / no region.

dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Jonathan Holt' <plantpot_73@y...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: [tadream] concert dvds


> Will these be available in Region 1 format?
>
> --- Gert Jalass <gjalass@b...> wrote:
> > Duncan,
> >
> > pls keep me updated about their availability - I'm
> > HIGHLY interested in
> > getting them ...
> >
> > Gert
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: 'Duncan McKee' <tangram@t...>
> > To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 10:47 AM
> > Subject: [tadream] concert dvds
> >
> >
> > > hi everyone
> > > as some of you may know i have transfered a number
> > of concert
> > > footage onto dvd and vcd this year. all that i
> > have done has been
> > > has been thown away as i am going to re do them
> > all using better
> > > hardware.
> > > these will be available in the next few weeks
> > >
> > > Athens, Greece 30-08-83 B/W
> > > KlangArt 12-06-99
> > > Coventry Cathedral 75
> > > Most Beautful Rock for Peace
> > > Valentine Wheels
> > > Poland 83
> > >
> > > the hardware i am using is capable of transfering
> > video to mpeg2
> > > format without losing any frames or quality.
> > >
> > > i can accept either $6 (Note to Martin K. this
> > covers the cost of
> > > the blanks, cases and postage)or two blank dvds
> > (must be good brands
> > > as cheap ones only cause coasters)per dvd, what
> > you will get is dvd
> > > case, covers and postage is included.
> > >
> > > i am also searching for the following video tapes
> > of TD
> > > all must be pal and good quality
> > > Goblins Club Live
> > > Brussles 97
> > > an evening in LA (1992)
> > > a good copy of kansas 86 (if there is one)
> > > sir theater 12-07-95
> > > Inferno webcast
> > > SBE 01 Webcast
> > > Germany 90
> > >
> > > i will happily trade the dvds i am going to do for
> > the abover videos
> > >
> > > if anyone is interested please let me know
> > >
> > > Duncan
> > > tangram@t...
> > > www.tadream.co.uk
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > > To unsubscribe:
> > mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > >
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> > > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> > >
> > > Tangerine Tree info at
> > > http://www.tadream.net/tree
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > To unsubscribe:
> > mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> >
> > Tangerine Tree info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/tree
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
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>
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>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36508">
From: 

'Admin' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Sat Oct 5, 2002  9:26
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Off Topic-'Sound Explorer'


since me,
west coast,

what stations or groups will carry and better yet, where to get info and
times...?

dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Wade Gordon' <mindvoyager1@y...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 10:48 AM
Subject: [tadream] Off Topic-'Sound Explorer'


> To make it easier for people to find and hear my radio
> program 'Sound Explorer' all you have to do is type in
> my name 'Wade Gordon' in any search engine.
>
> Also, very, very soon the radio program will be on a
> major commercial network available primarily to the
> East Coast Corridor and also the West Coast of the
> USA.
>
> Wade
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do you Yahoo!?
> Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More
> http://faith.yahoo.com
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
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> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36509">
From: 

izyrp@o... 
Date:  Sat Oct 5, 2002  9:48
pm
Subject:  Virus from Glenn Folkvord?


I have received this from:

'''[tadream] Infection Instruments
Date:
Sat, 5 Oct 2002 11:44:20 -0400
From:
'Glenn Folkvord - Hyperion Media' <glenn@yahoogroups.com>

Forwarded:

InfectionMusic Newsletter Number 001/July 2002
----------------------------------------------

Welcome to the first InfectionMusic Newsletter. This newsletter will be
published on the 22nd day of each month. If you do not wish to receive
this
information please send an e-mail to newsletter@i...
with
the
word 'REMOVE' in the subjectP'''

the message also contained 'Patrick Pc terms.doc.pif'
as 'Winamp File'

Is Glenn Folkvord on this list?
If so, his computer might be infected....
siggy


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36510">
From: 

'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...> 
Date:  Sat Oct 5, 2002  10:39
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Virus from Glenn Folkvord?


From: <izyrp@o...>

> Is Glenn Folkvord on this list?
> If so, his computer might be infected....


I've recieved multiple Klez email viruses over the last couple of days from
different people, all of them members of this list. So someone's got it and is
passing it around.


Maff


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36511">
From: 

Miguel Farah <yahoo@l...> 
Date:  Sun Oct 6, 2002  1:22
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Paul Stump


Victor Rek [04/10/2002 17:07] dijo/said:
>From:	Morgan Feldon [SMTP:feldon@f...]
>
>And I have no respect for a man who does not like Poland.
>
>Me too. Vic

Count me in.

It is obvious to me that this was yet another non-Virgin years
compilation, but that's because I *have* all the studio albums and have
seen many similar compilations. A reviewer must state this explicitly
for the benefit of those who don't know TD well.


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36512">
From: 

Gustavo Jobim <gustavojobim@n...> 
Date:  Sun Oct 6, 2002  1:50
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Virus from Glenn Folkvord?


Yes, I, too, received the 'patrick pc' file, but from Steve Zimmerman, with a
message apparently directed to Vic (well it mentions 'vic')...

I just deleted the attachment and the message.

It's never enough to tell people to NOT run any executable attachments (files
with com, bat, pif, exe, vbs, scr extensions), well anyway, you get the point.

Gustavo Jobim
gustavojobim@n...


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36513">
From: 

'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Sun Oct 6, 2002  6:42
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Virus from Glenn Folkvord?


> > Is Glenn Folkvord on this list?
> > If so, his computer might be infected....
>
>
>I've recieved multiple Klez email viruses over the last couple of days from
>different people, all of them members of this list. So someone's got it and 
>is
>passing it around.
>
>
>Maff


'Klez' virus? I though that the latest baddie was called 'Bugbear'. Anyway, 
I've gotten it from ... 3 people so far, one of them being Vic! You could 
perhaps check if F-Secure has some nice patch avaivable?

At least I'll now know who have me on their address books for some reason. 
The first message was from someone I don't really remember ever hearing 
from?

I, however, am 100% sure I'm not spreading it around, since:
1) we have a Mac
2) I keep my address lists separate from my email account.

John Vertical

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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36514">
From: 

Falcon <falcon@r...> 
Date:  Sun Oct 6, 2002  6:55
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Virus from Glenn Folkvord?


At 08:42 06.10.2002, you wrote:
>Klez' virus? I though that the latest baddie was called 'Bugbear'.

Me too ! Also from people not on the list, seems to be a worldwide problem.

Ramon


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36515">
From: 

'Fred Yargui' <fredericyargui@w...> 
Date:  Sun Oct 6, 2002  7:40
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Virus in suspicious attachment


> I just deleted the attachment and the message.
>
> It's never enough to tell people to NOT run any executable attachments
(files with com, bat, pif, exe, vbs, scr extensions), well anyway, you get
the point.
>

Hello, Gustavo and Dreamers,

I would like to add that in case of such an email, SHIFT-DELete the mail
will prevent you from going to the bin and delete it again. (Outlook express
and similar)

Fred


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36516">
From: 

'duncan mckee' <tangram@t...> 
Date:  Sun Oct 6, 2002  8:56
am
Subject:  concert dvds


hi all
to answer a few questions, these dvds are available in NTSC and PAL, to check
your compatibility of playing dvd-r's (not dvd+r's) please check on
www.vcdhelp.com this site tells you everything you need to know about your dvd
player and what it can play.
there is no region code on these dvds so a NTSC copy would even play in the UK,
i hope this clears things up a bit.
BTW they should be ready very soon, i will email again when they are ready
Thanks

Duncan McKee

tangram@t...
www.tadream.co.uk
www.tangerine-dream.co.uk

MSN Messenger dmckee20@h...

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36517">
From: 

'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...> 
Date:  Sun Oct 6, 2002  9:06
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Virus from Glenn Folkvord?


and me too!!!!
It came via a [tangerinedream] list name, Iam don't know what they
are!!!! - PAulus.d_uk

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Falcon' <falcon@r...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Virus from Glenn Folkvord?


> At 08:42 06.10.2002, you wrote:
> >Klez' virus? I though that the latest baddie was called 'Bugbear'.
>
> Me too ! Also from people not on the list, seems to be a worldwide
problem.
>
> Ramon
>
>
>
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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36518">
From: 

'artofvision01' <artofvision01@y...> 
Date:  Sun Oct 6, 2002  10:56
am
Subject:  Re: Paul Stump


> >And I have no respect for a man who does not like Poland.
> >
> >Me too. Vic
> 
> Count me in.
> 

Then you have no respect for 99,9% of the mankind ;-)

Art Of Vision


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36519">
From: 

'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...> 
Date:  Sun Oct 6, 2002  6:43
pm
Subject:  Staatsgrenze West Album


Can anyone enlighten me with the story behind this album?

I know its one of the albums of the 1980 East Berlin Concert, but can anyone
out there translate the cover notes?
Why does it sound different to Pergamon? It does sound totally live and
improvised, including mistakes.
was it on general release, or a East German bootleg?

The cover photo is of brick laying with a trench warfare photo on the back.
Inner labels have no writing, just 3 men .

#Hope someone knows!!!!!
Paulus.d_uk


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<MESSAGE index="36520">
From: 

'C. Chambers' <craig@t...> 
Date:  Sun Oct 6, 2002  6:56
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Virus from Glenn Folkvord?


To all,

I think the BugBear is a variant of the KLEZ, but that is much more devious.

For one, if infected, the virus pulls random email messages from your inbox,
then attachs the virus to the 'legitimate' message. It then grabs random
email addresses out of your inbox, from html pages, from doc files...just
about any 'XXXX@x...' type address it can find on the infected machine.
It then sends out the legitimate message to emails that it mines from the
machine, and also 'spoofs' the address of someone else, that is one of the
addresses it finds.

So chances are, Glenn Folkvord is NOT the virus spreader...he just happens
to be in someone's address list that is infected. How do I know this? I
had Maff and several others graciously email me over the last few days
telling me to check my machine...I did (more than once, with more than one
anti-virus)...and I kept coming up clean. But the virus was spreading to a
common group...at least all the people sending me notice were from this
list.

So I looked at the subject line, and it was a 'real' message I sent out in
May...regarding the first installment of the TD tree. Only problem was the
return email was craig.chambers@i..., which is NOT my email, but is a
legitimate ISP in Brazil. So, I put logic to work and said, okay, who did I
send this email to originally, they must be the infected ones, as they are
the only ones to have that particular email. Anyway, apparently, the source
of 'my' virus was apparently found...but this may be another slew of
messages from either the original infected machine or from some other
source, that is continuing to propagate.

The scary thing is that the hype has the Bugbear sending back user info and
password lists to some email as part of the process...so someone that is
infected may be distributing very sensitive info to some unscrupulous
people.

Be cautious!
Craig

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Vertical [mailto:johnvertical@h...]
> Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 2:43 AM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [tadream] Virus from Glenn Folkvord?
>
>
> > > Is Glenn Folkvord on this list?
> > > If so, his computer might be infected....
> >
> >
> >I've recieved multiple Klez email viruses over the last couple
> of days from
> >different people, all of them members of this list. So someone's
> got it and
> >is
> >passing it around.
> >
> >
> >Maff
>
>
> 'Klez' virus? I though that the latest baddie was called
> 'Bugbear'. Anyway,
> I've gotten it from ... 3 people so far, one of them being Vic! You could
> perhaps check if F-Secure has some nice patch avaivable?
>
> At least I'll now know who have me on their address books for
> some reason.
> The first message was from someone I don't really remember ever hearing
> from?
>
> I, however, am 100% sure I'm not spreading it around, since:
> 1) we have a Mac
> 2) I keep my address lists separate from my email account.
>
> John Vertical
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
> ---
> Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.
> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> Version: 6.0.393 / Virus Database: 223 - Release Date: 9/30/02
>
---
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Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36521">
From: 

David Hughes <dhughes@g...> 
Date:  Sun Oct 6, 2002  7:03
pm
Subject:  Unsub requests


Folks,

Has there been a problem with the recent InfectionInstruments mailout? A virus?

I understand that some part of it was forwarded to this list on October 5th by
Glenn Folkvord and this is causing confusion amongst some members. Apparently,
Glenn may have a virus. I'm missing digest 1520 which was sent on 5th October.

It's causing confusion here because the most recent Newsletter was not sent to
the tadream list. We've received requests to unsubscribe from the list from
people who are not on our list. All of them have originated on the tadream list.

Anyone shed any light on this?

Regards
David

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\
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http://www.infectionmusic.co.uk
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\
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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36522">
From: 

'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...> 
Date:  Sun Oct 6, 2002  7:25
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Staatsgrenze West Album


From: 'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...>

> Why does it sound different to Pergamon?


What you're hearing on SW is part of the FM broadcast of the evening concert. SW
is not an official release and is just one of the many bootlegs of this gig.

Quichotte part 1 is a reperformance of part of the 1980 concert (the first half
of the second set of the evening concert to be precise). This was redone in the
studio to tighten up the music and fix the live mistakes.

Quichotte part 2 appears nowhere on any of the bootlegs of this concert (except
for White Cloths disc 3, which is just a dub of the Pergamon LP), so it is most
likely a studio composition. However, as there is no known tape of the afternoon
concert, this track might have been performed then.

A much better version of the complete evening concert is scheduled for Tangerine
Tree #3.


Maff
_________________________________________________
www.tachyon-tv.co.uk www.tangent.da.ru
www.mst3uk.com


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36523">
From: 


Morgan Feldon <feldon@f...> 
Date:  Sun Oct 6, 2002  7:31
pm
Subject:  Re: Staatsgrenze West


>Can anyone enlighten me with the story behind this album?
>
>I know its one of the albums of the 1980 East Berlin Concert, but can anyone
>out there translate the cover notes?

It was recorded from FM radio.

>Why does it sound different to Pergamon? It does sound totally live and
>improvised, including mistakes.

Because Pergamon is partly re-recorded and remixed from the second set of 
the complete 98 minute concert.

>was it on general release, or a East German bootleg?

It is a bootleg, the first bootleg (but certainly not the last) of this show.

There are many many recordings of this concert in various stages of 
completeness.

The best possible version right now is 'Lifted Curtain' which contains both 
the first set (similar to Tangram), the second set, and the incredible 
unreleased encore.

'White Cloths' is also a very good recording.

Staatsgrenze West is incomplete and is one of the poorer quality recordings 
of this show.

You are encouraged to subscribe to the 'Tangerine Tree' set of concert 
recordings. They are fan recordings that are from tapes which are often not 
generally distributed. They have been remastered and there is very nice 
artwork as well. A remastered version of 'Lifted Curtain' will be appearing 
on the 17th volume of the Tangerine Tree, expected spring 2003.

-Morgan


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36524">
From: 

'fozziebear' <fozziebear.beehive@b...> 
Date:  Sun Oct 6, 2002  8:00
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Virus from Glenn Folkvord?


C. Chambers said > To all,
>
> I think the BugBear is a variant of the KLEZ, but that is much more
devious.
>
> For one, if infected, the virus pulls random email messages from your
inbox,
> then attachs the virus to the 'legitimate' message. It then grabs random
> email addresses out of your inbox, from html pages, from doc files...just
> about any 'XXXX@x...' type address it can find on the infected
machine.
> It then sends out the legitimate message to emails that it mines from the
> machine, and also 'spoofs' the address of someone else, that is one of the
> addresses it finds.
>
> So chances are, Glenn Folkvord is NOT the virus spreader...he just happens
> to be in someone's address list that is infected. How do I know this? I
> had Maff and several others graciously email me over the last few days
> telling me to check my machine...I did (more than once, with more than one
> anti-virus)...and I kept coming up clean. But the virus was spreading to
a
> common group...at least all the people sending me notice were from this
> list.
>
> So I looked at the subject line, and it was a 'real' message I sent out in
> May...regarding the first installment of the TD tree. Only problem was
the
> return email was craig.chambers@i..., which is NOT my email, but is a
> legitimate ISP in Brazil. So, I put logic to work and said, okay, who did
I
> send this email to originally, they must be the infected ones, as they are
> the only ones to have that particular email. Anyway, apparently, the
source
> of 'my' virus was apparently found...but this may be another slew of
> messages from either the original infected machine or from some other
> source, that is continuing to propagate.
>
> The scary thing is that the hype has the Bugbear sending back user info
and
> password lists to some email as part of the process...so someone that is
> infected may be distributing very sensitive info to some unscrupulous
> people.
>
> Be cautious!
> Craig


Craig I received that message from you that you were mentioning and
Zimmerman.. But you, Glen and Zimmerman are not in my address book and
never have been. I deleted them right away becuase they looked suspicious.
Does anyone outthere have any ideas?

David


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36525">
From: 

Gustavo Jobim <gustavojobim@n...> 
Date:  Sun Oct 6, 2002  8:37
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Virus from Glenn Folkvord?


Craig Chambers wrote:
To all,
I think the BugBear is a variant of the KLEZ, but that is much more devious.
(...)
The scary thing is that the hype has the Bugbear sending back user info and
password lists to some email as part of the process...so someone that is
infected may be distributing very sensitive info to some unscrupulous
people.
-------------------------

From Symantec:
'W32.Bugbear@m... is a mass-mailing worm. It can also spread through network
shares. It has keystroke-logging and *backdoor capabilities*. The worm also
attempts to terminate the processes of various antivirus and firewall programs.'

Symantec has a 9-page document about this worm; my computer was actually
infected not through this list, but through another list my mother subscribes.
In fact, Norton Antivirus would close by itself some seconds after being
opening, the keyboard wasn't typing any accents or tilde (instead of writing á,
for example, whenever I pressed the ' key I'd have an instantaneous '').

When I suspected windows's strange behaviour - all that, and also whenever I
tried deleting the worm's registry key it was reconstructed when I booted - I
went to Symantec's site and the Bugbear link was the first thing on the
homepage.

I'd explain this further, but instead I recommend you visit the site and read
all about it. Symantec has made a removal tool but there also instructions for
manual removal. I recommend the tool because it detected and deleted 24
infected files in the Eudora Attach folder; still, after running the tool (it
only ran on safe mode), I checked the registry key and the worm executable;
both were in fact gone.
-------------------------
Be cautious!
Craig
------------------------
yes indeed.

Gustavo Jobim
gustavojobim@n...


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36526">
From: 

'C. Chambers' <craig@t...> 
Date:  Sun Oct 6, 2002  9:09
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Virus from Glenn Folkvord?


> Craig I received that message from you that you were mentioning and
> Zimmerman.. But you, Glen and Zimmerman are not in my address book and
> never have been. I deleted them right away becuase they looked
> suspicious.
> Does anyone outthere have any ideas?
>
> David

The only thing is that we were *both* in someone else's address book...or
some other common file (html 'tree structure'??) on the infected computer.
That is the common element. Like I said, this thing is very devious. It
went to a mutual friend's computer, pulled out my old email, mutilated my
name@i... into something different, said I was the sender, then sent it out
to you and others...really strange stuff.

What will the assholes think up next??

Craig
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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36527">
From: 

'Glenn Folkvord - Hyperion Media' <glenn@f...> 
Date:  Mon Oct 7, 2002  2:48
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Virus from Glenn Folkvord?


Hello,

I am pretty sure the virus didnt come from me. Maybe I am on someone mail
list and the virus auto-forwarded itself.

If the virus was disguised as coming from glenn@yahoogroups.com then at
least I can say I never used that alias :-)

Glenn

http://www.jarretribute.com


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36528">
From: 

Gustavo Jobim <gustavojobim@n...> 
Date:  Mon Oct 7, 2002  4:15
am
Subject:  OT for the Swedish ( translation-Trettioåriga Kriget)


Hello Swedish colleagues,

Well I'm even kind of embarassed to ask this, but I wonder if anyone could do a
huge favour for me.

There's a band from the seventies, Trettioåriga Kriget, prog rock, I like their
first album very much, which is the only one I have so far because it's very
hard to find.

The favour is. Well they have lyrics, the six tracks have lyrics, quite long
lyrics, in Swedish. And I've never managed to find a translation anywhere. So I
wonder if anyone with enough time could do this huge favour for me, to
translate the lyrics to English... one of the tracks for example is called
Fjärilsattityder which means to me the same as Gjörfepstonsserlienbomså. I like
know the band's name means War of the 30 years. or something.

Or maybe I'm way too lucky and someone else know a page with a translation of
the lyrics...

thanks,
GJ
np: Trettioåriga Kriget - Trettioåriga Kriget - Fjärilsattityder

Gustavo Jobim
gustavojobim@n...


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36529">
From: 

Falcon <falcon@r...> 
Date:  Mon Oct 7, 2002  7:19
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Staatsgrenze West


At 21:31 06.10.2002, you wrote:
>The best possible version right now is 'Lifted Curtain' which contains both
>the first set (similar to Tangram), the second set, and the incredible
>unreleased encore.

Erm, Heiko, can you say something about this ? ;-)

Ramon


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36530">
From: 

Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> 
Date:  Mon Oct 7, 2002  9:02
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Paul Stump


You've essentially read his book if you read this review...

armin

Jonathan Holt wrote:

> --- Morgan Feldon <feldon@f...> wrote:
> 
>>>TANGERINE DREAM
>>>Anthology
>>>Castle/Sanctuary (1.5 stars out of 5)
>>>
>>>Three CDs from Berlin outfit squaring circle
>>>
>>between krautrock, prog and
>>
>>>ambient
>>>
>>>Paul Stump.
>>>
>>This fool makes it sound like TD released the album
>>or even had a hand in 
>>choosing the track sequence. What a joke.
>>
>>And I have no respect for a man who does not like
>>Poland.
>>
>>-Morgan
>>
> 
> I thought it was supposed to be a review, not an
> obvious hatchet job. Still, I'm glad this got posted,
> just makes me more convinced that it's the rest of the
> world that's mad.
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________ 
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> 
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> 
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> 
> 
> 


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36531">
From: 

'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Mon Oct 7, 2002  9:03
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Virus


I think I have a nice solution for avoiding this Bugbear virus: if you can 
display the size of your incoming mail, delete ALL messages that are 69k 
big. That's the filesize of Bugbear.

John Vertical

_________________________________________________________________
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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36532">
From: 

Kees Aerts / Groove Unlimited <kees@g...> 
Date:  Mon Oct 7, 2002  10:03
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Virus from Glenn Folkvord?


At 04:48 7-10-02 +0200, you wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I am pretty sure the virus didnt come from me. Maybe I am on someone mail
>list and the virus auto-forwarded itself.
>
>If the virus was disguised as coming from glenn@yahoogroups.com then at
>least I can say I never used that alias :-)

Hello All,

All this has nothing to do with Glenn.
At this moment I get about 20-30 Emails a day with viruses from all kind of 
people.
Even from myself. ;-}


Best regards / Vriendelijke groeten,

Kees

GROOVE Unlimited (Specializing in Electronic Music)
Kees Aerts
PO Box 2171
8203 AD Lelystad
the Netherlands
Tel: +31 (0) 320 219496 ; Fax: +31 (0) 320 218910
http://www.groove.nl


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36533">
From: 

<strat95@b...> 
Date:  Mon Oct 7, 2002  11:17
am
Subject:  Off Topic - Computer help needed


Hello All,

I now have a new computer. 1.80GHrz Pentium 4, 80gig HDD, DSL modem.
The old one was a 133MHrz, 6gig HDD, 56.6K dial-up. So I feel that I am now
caught up to the computer age. Now the problem: 

I have a lot of e-mail saved on the old computer in my Outlook Express e-mail
program as well as a ton of address in the address book. Other than taking each
seperate e-mail, sending it to my Yahoo account and then sending them back to
my Bellsouth.net account so I can save them again, and sitting with a pad of
paper to actually write all the e-maill address, is there anyway to just save
everything in the outlook express e-mail program on a disc or something and
'install' it to the new computer?

Thanks
Neal

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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36534">
From: 

'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...> 
Date:  Mon Oct 7, 2002  11:54
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Off Topic - Computer help needed


From: <strat95@b...>

> is there anyway to just save everything in the outlook express e-mail
> program on a disc or something and 'install' it to the new computer?


Try here:

http://download.com.com/3120-20-0.html?qt=outlook+express+backup&tg=dl-2001


Most of these are demo versions with limitations but you should be able to find
one that will do what you need.


Maff
_________________________________________________
www.tachyon-tv.co.uk www.tangent.da.ru
www.mst3uk.com


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36535">
From: 

Mr Paul Dryden <paulus.d@f...> 
Date:  Mon Oct 7, 2002  12:10
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Off Topic - Computer help needed


> Hello All,
> 
> I now have a new computer. 1.80GHrz Pentium 4, 80gig HDD, DSL modem.
> The old one was a 133MHrz, 6gig HDD, 56.6K dial-up. So I feel that I 
am now caught up to the computer age. Now the problem: 
> 
> I have a lot of e-mail saved on the old computer in my Outlook 
Express e-mail program as well as a ton of address in the address book. 
Other than taking each seperate e-mail, sending it to my Yahoo account 
and then sending them back to my Bellsouth.net account so I can save 
them again, and sitting with a pad of paper to actually write all the e-
maill address, is there anyway to just save everything in the outlook 
express e-mail program on a disc or something and 'install' it to the 
new computer?
> 
> Thanks
> Neal
As far as Iam aware Outlook has its own export system for address book 
and messages.
These are under FILE,EXPORT then pick which you wish to export.

I will have to do this when my new computer arrives!!!

Paulus.d_uk

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com 
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> 
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree 
> 
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/
terms/ 
> 
> 
> 

-- 

	
</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36536">
From: 

Mr Paul Dryden <paulus.d@f...> 
Date:  Mon Oct 7, 2002  12:14
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Staatsgrenze West


Thanks to all with help about this album.
The only reason I asked was I dug it out of my collection for playing 
at work today!
When I said it sounds different, boy does it!
Paulus.d

> >Can anyone enlighten me with the story behind this album?
> >
> >I know its one of the albums of the 1980 East Berlin Concert, but 
can anyone
> >out there translate the cover notes?
> 
> It was recorded from FM radio.
> 
> >Why does it sound different to Pergamon? It does sound totally live 
and
> >improvised, including mistakes.
> 
> Because Pergamon is partly re-recorded and remixed from the second 
set of 
> the complete 98 minute concert.
> 
> >was it on general release, or a East German bootleg?
> 
> It is a bootleg, the first bootleg (but certainly not the last) of 
this show.
> 
> There are many many recordings of this concert in various stages of 
> completeness.
> 
> The best possible version right now is 'Lifted Curtain' which 
contains both 
> the first set (similar to Tangram), the second set, and the 
incredible 
> unreleased encore.
> 
> 'White Cloths' is also a very good recording.
> 
> Staatsgrenze West is incomplete and is one of the poorer quality 
recordings 
> of this show.
> 
> You are encouraged to subscribe to the 'Tangerine Tree' set of 
concert 
> recordings. They are fan recordings that are from tapes which are 
often not 
> generally distributed. They have been remastered and there is very 
nice 
> artwork as well. A remastered version of 'Lifted Curtain' will be 
appearing 
> on the 17th volume of the Tangerine Tree, expected spring 2003.
> 
> -Morgan
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
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> ----------------------------------------------------_-
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> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> 
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree 
> 
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/
terms/ 
> 
> 
> 

-- 

	
</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36537">
From: 

olle.rundgren@s... 
Date:  Mon Oct 7, 2002  3:21
pm
Subject:  Stump


Ok, it's a fan-list but really; what's so awful about that review?

What he is saying is basically that the compilation consists of tracks from
the early, Pink Floyd -inspired years, through the more experimental years,
and then, strangely enough, jumps right to '83. 
Whether You like Poland or not, it is pretty obvious that TD's approach
became way more commercial during the 80's, in hope for ...whatever. And the
quality of 90's TD has been discussed a lot even among the fans of this
list. He is using heavy adjectives at the end but I seem to recall some
pretty tough remarks in this forum as well.

It's beside the point if Mr Stump is likeable or not. His review, last
sentence excluded, is way gentler than many of those music-press reviews
that angered me in the late 70's. 
Still have a few kept with my Vinyls. If there is interest enough I can
always supply the list with one or two.

/Olle

	
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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36538">
From: 

'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Mon Oct 7, 2002  4:20
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Virus from Glenn Folkvord?


Same here, I just nuke them when I see them as I know who is sending me
files in most cases anyway.
I have my virus scanner on all the time too. The bad thing is when you look
into it, the headers, sometimes it isn't the person you think is sending it
to you. They might be on another list. I check all headers closely to make
sure who really sent it to you. Since I do this as part of my Day Job, you
can send me the header info if you need to sort it out. Just past it in a
text email and I will pass who to contact when I get time to look it up.

Dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Virus from Glenn Folkvord?


> From: <izyrp@o...>
>
> > Is Glenn Folkvord on this list?
> > If so, his computer might be infected....
>
>
> I've recieved multiple Klez email viruses over the last couple of days
from
> different people, all of them members of this list. So someone's got it
and is
> passing it around.
>
>
> Maff
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36539">
From: 

'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Mon Oct 7, 2002  4:25
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Paul Stump


sounds harsh...
but maybe your right...

I don't think I cared much about being in with the norm...

dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'artofvision01' <artofvision01@y...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 3:56 AM
Subject: [tadream] Re: Paul Stump


>
> > >And I have no respect for a man who does not like Poland.
> > >
> > >Me too. Vic
> >
> > Count me in.
> >
>
> Then you have no respect for 99,9% of the mankind ;-)
>
> Art Of Vision
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36540">
From: 

'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Mon Oct 7, 2002  4:34
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Virus from Glenn Folkvord?


Craig

> What will the assholes think up next??

For some strange reason, I think the ones who do this, are not on this list.
Call it a hunch if you want...

dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'C. Chambers' <craig@t...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 2:09 PM
Subject: RE: [tadream] Virus from Glenn Folkvord?


> > Craig I received that message from you that you were mentioning and
> > Zimmerman.. But you, Glen and Zimmerman are not in my address book and
> > never have been. I deleted them right away becuase they looked
> > suspicious.
> > Does anyone outthere have any ideas?
> >
> > David
>
> The only thing is that we were *both* in someone else's address book...or
> some other common file (html 'tree structure'??) on the infected computer.
> That is the common element. Like I said, this thing is very devious. It
> went to a mutual friend's computer, pulled out my old email, mutilated my
> name@i... into something different, said I was the sender, then sent it out
> to you and others...really strange stuff.
>
> What will the assholes think up next??
>
> Craig
> ---
> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> Version: 6.0.393 / Virus Database: 223 - Release Date: 9/30/02
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36541">
From: 

'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Mon Oct 7, 2002  4:56
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Virus from Glenn Folkvord?


Well, I do enjoy my outlook express to read the list. I also know pretty
much who is sending anything as I see a paper clip when a attachment is
present.

dale

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Glenn Folkvord - Hyperion Media' <glenn@f...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Virus from Glenn Folkvord?


> Hello,
>
> I am pretty sure the virus didnt come from me. Maybe I am on someone mail
> list and the virus auto-forwarded itself.
>
> If the virus was disguised as coming from glenn@yahoogroups.com then at
> least I can say I never used that alias :-)
>
> Glenn
>
> http://www.jarretribute.com
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36542">
From: 

'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Mon Oct 7, 2002  5:05
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Off Topic - Computer help needed


What I do here at my day job is,
compress the folders first
then take a look at the size of the files for outlook express.
If large (over a floppy, I then export to a .pst file (outlook) then save or
slave the drive, import file and your finished.
You can do just what Paul said too and save each and every folder using
export to another file. I like the address in csv format, which I can then
import into excel to fix or add things too.

I have to do this at least once a week for our users here or when we set up
new systems. I use our network to move the really big ones over (over 1 gig
in size).

I burn a copy of my mail folders for archive as well. (esp TD list, My
college work, business receipts).

Dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Mr Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 5:10 AM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Off Topic - Computer help needed


> > Hello All,
> >
> > I now have a new computer. 1.80GHrz Pentium 4, 80gig HDD, DSL modem.
> > The old one was a 133MHrz, 6gig HDD, 56.6K dial-up. So I feel that I
> am now caught up to the computer age. Now the problem:
> >
> > I have a lot of e-mail saved on the old computer in my Outlook
> Express e-mail program as well as a ton of address in the address book.
> Other than taking each seperate e-mail, sending it to my Yahoo account
> and then sending them back to my Bellsouth.net account so I can save
> them again, and sitting with a pad of paper to actually write all the e-
> maill address, is there anyway to just save everything in the outlook
> express e-mail program on a disc or something and 'install' it to the
> new computer?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Neal
> As far as Iam aware Outlook has its own export system for address book
> and messages.
> These are under FILE,EXPORT then pick which you wish to export.
>
> I will have to do this when my new computer arrives!!!
>
> Paulus.d_uk
>
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> >
> > Tangerine Tree info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/tree
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/
> terms/
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36543">
From: 

Jonathan Holt <plantpot_73@y...> 
Date:  Mon Oct 7, 2002  5:11
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] tree help needed


A long story but...
Is there anyone in Canada (I'm in Ontario) who would
be able to send me Mannheim 1976 Disc 1 from TT2?
I got my Tree from Heiko but his distribution elves
made a boo-boo.
Apparently the cost of sending 1 disk from Germany to
Canada would be horrible (German post being as harsh
as Canadian taxes apparently).

If anyone can help, please contact me at
plantpot_73@y...

Thanks!
Jonathan :-)

______________________________________________________________________ 
Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca

	
</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36544">
From: 

'goozergrafx' <goozer@a...> 
Date:  Mon Oct 7, 2002  5:52
pm
Subject:  Re: Paul Stump


I know I'm not the only one here who has Mr. Stump's tome nor am I the
only one who read it, but...

Why am I the only one who noticed that his view of Poland has changed?
In his book, he lauded it for being much better than the preceeding
studio works White Eagle and Hyperborea. But all things change, right? 

I wouldn't get too worked up over a critic's opinion, gang.


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36545">
From: 

'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Mon Oct 7, 2002  9:05
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Paul Stump


Maybe, I speak for myself, we did not care as much about what he had to say?

dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'goozergrafx' <goozer@a...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 10:52 AM
Subject: [tadream] Re: Paul Stump


> I know I'm not the only one here who has Mr. Stump's tome nor am I the
> only one who read it, but...
>
> Why am I the only one who noticed that his view of Poland has changed?
> In his book, he lauded it for being much better than the preceeding
> studio works White Eagle and Hyperborea. But all things change, right?
>
> I wouldn't get too worked up over a critic's opinion, gang.
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36546">
From: 

Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 8, 2002  12:21
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Off Topic-'Sound Explorer'


Right now the program is available in Boston, NYC,
Baltimore, Philly.... It is on rock stations 7-10
Eastern.

Wade
--- Admin <admin@k...> wrote:
> since me,
> west coast,
> 
> what stations or groups will carry and better yet,
> where to get info and
> times...?
> 
> dale
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Wade Gordon' <mindvoyager1@y...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 10:48 AM
> Subject: [tadream] Off Topic-'Sound Explorer'
> 
> 
> > To make it easier for people to find and hear my
> radio
> > program 'Sound Explorer' all you have to do is
> type in
> > my name 'Wade Gordon' in any search engine.
> >
> > Also, very, very soon the radio program will be on
> a
> > major commercial network available primarily to
> the
> > East Coast Corridor and also the West Coast of the
> > USA.
> >
> > Wade
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do you Yahoo!?
> > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More
> > http://faith.yahoo.com
> >
> >
>
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> >
>
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> > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> >
> > Tangerine Tree info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/tree
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
>
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>
----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> 
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree 
> 
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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> 
> 


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36547">
From: 

quarlie@a... 
Date:  Tue Oct 8, 2002  1:22
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Stump


olle.rundgren@s... wrote:

>Ok, it's a fan-list but really; what's so awful about that review?

I think the main problem is that he seems (to me) to be blaming the band for
the compilation's omissions, when of course it's the label's fault, and the
band had little to do with it. This is of course nothing new with Castle
compilations (Dream Roots, Book of Dreams, Best of the Pink/Blue Years...).

--Daniel
NP: Mortiis - The Smell of Rain

	
</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36548">
From: 

'fairway_ch' <rene.brenner@f...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 8, 2002  2:09
am
Subject:  Re: Gola (Zlatko Perica's band)


Hello all,

Here's a reply to an older post (May 2002). Zlatko Perica (1992-1997) 
is performing with the swiss pop music group 'Gölä & Band' nowadays. 
It's a 3 member group consisting of 1 Lead singer (Marco Pfeuti, 
singer in swiss dialect), Zlatko Perica and a keyboardist (Thomas J. 
Gyger). I guess most TD fans are not hardly interested in the 90-ties 
of the band so I won't go into details on this topic. If you have 
further questions email me.

For a short track check: http://www.seven49.net/4-heads/seven49.asp?
CathActiv1=60&CathActiv2=212&CathActiv3=232&Aktion=downloads&IDM=75&ID
B=1&MAE=.mp3

Their website is @ http://www.seven49.net/4-heads/gola/

--- In tadream@y..., 'C. Chambers' <craig.chambers@m...> wrote:
> 
> Fellow dreamers,
> 
> Has anyone got any comments on the new guitar excursions of the Z-
man? I
> found this site which describes (in German?) some activity by the 
guitarist.
> Can someone familiar with them describe the music for me?
> 
> http://www.seven49.net/4-heads/gola/
> 
> Worth checking out?
> 
> Thanks.
> Craig Chambers


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36549">
From: 

Felna Greymane <greymane@g...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 8, 2002  2:19
am
Subject:  TD theme


A friend of mine brought over a tape someone made for him this weekend that
had a mix of several groups including both TD and Jean-Michel Jarre. He
played a portion of a piece that I would have sworn was TD, but turned out
to be Jean-Michel Jarre's Oxygene Pt. IV.

I was pretty sure the main theme that runs through the piece (a 5 note
sequence that goes high, mid, below-mid, mid, low) has been used in some TD
release, but after hunting for about an hour thru my collection, I can't
find it.

Was I nuts or is that theme in something they have done also?


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36550">
From: 

Gustavo Jobim <gustavojobim@n...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 8, 2002  3:03
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] TD theme


>(...) He played a portion of a piece that I would have sworn was TD, but
turned out to be Jean-Michel Jarre's Oxygene Pt. IV.
>Was I nuts or is that theme in something they have done also?

Hmm... I don't know all the TD music, but I believe they've never made anything
with that theme. Actually there's a bit of melody in Underwater Twilight that
really resembles the first part of Jarre's Equinoxe pt. IV's melody...

np: Schulze - Nowhere - Now Here (absolutely classic KS, absurdly great EM)

Gustavo Jobim
gustavojobim@n...


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36551">
From: 

'Glenn Folkvord - Hyperion Media' <glenn@f...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 8, 2002  3:30
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] TD theme


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Felna Greymane' <greymane@g...>


> A friend of mine brought over a tape someone made for him this weekend
that
> had a mix of several groups including both TD and Jean-Michel Jarre. He
> played a portion of a piece that I would have sworn was TD, but turned out
> to be Jean-Michel Jarre's Oxygene Pt. IV.
>
> I was pretty sure the main theme that runs through the piece (a 5 note
> sequence that goes high, mid, below-mid, mid, low) has been used in some
TD
> release, but after hunting for about an hour thru my collection, I can't
> find it.

On Dream Sequence there is a TD song that has a acoustic guitar intro, and
later in the song there is a synth theme played which maybe is remotely
similar to the theme of Oxygene 4.

Glenn

http://www.jarretribute.com


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36552">
From: 
'vic rek' <tangerinedream@a...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 8, 2002  7:40
am
Subject:  3 O'Clock High


Hey All,

I just happened to watch 3 O'Clock High yesterday with my son. I have to say
that it is quite an entertaining movie - somewhat of a 'sleeper'. Anyway -
it get's an 'A' rating from my book. The soundtrack blends in well - but is
not prominent.

As for the virus talk - no one on list spreads viruses intentionally - so
just protect yourself with the latest virus software and stop naming
names... No one on this list is at fault. Vic


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36553">
From: 

'Patrik .' <helikon@h...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 8, 2002  7:51
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] OT for the Swedish ( translation-Trettioåriga Kriget)


Hi Gustavo,

Regarding the Swedish band Thirty Years War, Trettioåriga Kriget.
I could give it a try if you could provide me with the lyrics.
Please contact me offlist.

helikon@h...

/Patrik


_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36554">
From: 

'Dennis Nigbur' <Dennis@m...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 8, 2002  9:58
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] TT2 Complete artwork


Just listening to my copy of the beautiful TT2, I'm trying to download the 
zip file containing all the artwork from the link on the tadream site. But 
I'm being told that the page which the link points at doesn't exist. Are 
there any alternative addresses from which I can download the cover 
art all in one go?

And many thanks to Dean (my branch) and everyone involved in the 
project for putting together such an impressive collection of great live 
music. 

Dennis

	
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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36555">
From: 

'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 8, 2002  10:36
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] TT2 Complete artwork


From: 'Dennis Nigbur' <Dennis@m...>

> But I'm being told that the page which the link points at doesn't exist. Are
> there any alternative addresses from which I can download the cover
> art all in one go?


I must have designed the TT cover site very, very badly. No one seems to be able
to spot the instructions on the page. There are at least two ways to download
the covers from the main site - either in a single zip file (I've just checked
and it's downloading fine here), or you can click the links under the cover
thumbnails to get the individual jpg files. And if either of those fail for some
reason, there is a link to Morgans backup mirror on the page as well.

Maff


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36556">
From: 

'Robert Asmus' <asmus0324@c...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 8, 2002  10:56
am
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Off Topic-'Sound Explorer'


Wade,

What station is your show hosted on in Boston as I live close enough
To get most Boston stations.

Also and word on when Jarre will be on the show?

Robert

-----Original Message-----
From: Wade Gordon [mailto:mindvoyager1@y...] 
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 8:21 PM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] Off Topic-'Sound Explorer'

Right now the program is available in Boston, NYC,
Baltimore, Philly.... It is on rock stations 7-10
Eastern.

Wade
--- Admin <admin@k...> wrote:
> since me,
> west coast,
> 
> what stations or groups will carry and better yet,
> where to get info and
> times...?
> 
> dale
> 
> 
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<MESSAGE index="36557">
From: 

'Dennis Nigbur' <Dennis@m...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 8, 2002  11:07
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] TT2 Complete artwork


You designed the page very well, and I had understood the instructions 
as you have explained them. The trouble is just that when I clicked on 
the link to the zip archive, I am told that the page doesn't exist. Maybe 
it's a problem with my browser. I'll just try again until it works.

Dennis


On 8 Oct 2002 at 11:36, Matthew Sawyer wrote:

> From: 'Dennis Nigbur' <Dennis@m...>
> 
> > But I'm being told that the page which the link points at doesn't
> > exist. Are there any alternative addresses from which I can download
> > the cover art all in one go?
> 
> 
> 
> I must have designed the TT cover site very, very badly. No one seems
> to be able to spot the instructions on the page. There are at least
> two ways to download the covers from the main site - either in a
> single zip file (I've just checked and it's downloading fine here), or
> you can click the links under the cover thumbnails to get the
> individual jpg files. And if either of those fail for some reason,
> there is a link to Morgans backup mirror on the page as well.
> 
> Maff
> 
> 
> 
> 
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<MESSAGE index="36558">
From: 

'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 8, 2002  11:11
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] TT2 Complete artwork


From: 'Dennis Nigbur' <Dennis@m...>

> the link to the zip archive, I am told that the page doesn't exist. Maybe
> it's a problem with my browser. I'll just try again until it works.


How about the individual links under the thumbnails or the link to Morgans
mirror site? Do either of those work for you?


Maff


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<MESSAGE index="36559">
From: 

'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 8, 2002  1:43
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] TD vs. Jarre


> >(...) He played a portion of a piece that I would have sworn was TD, but 
>turned out to be Jean-Michel Jarre's Oxygene Pt. IV.
> >Was I nuts or is that theme in something they have done also?
>
>Hmm... I don't know all the TD music, but I believe they've never made 
>anything with that theme. Actually there's a bit of melody in Underwater 
>Twilight that really resembles the first part of Jarre's Equinoxe pt. IV's 
>melody...


I don't know any direct theme copying, but I think that the 2nd sections of 
Mojave Plan and Livemiles pt. 1 [both approx. 11'-15'] have some strange 
resemblance with the 2nd half of Calypso Part 2... Then, Unicorn Theme is 
sort of similar with Chronologie pt. 1; and the last third of 'Digital 
Times' from TT vol. 10 is rather Jarresque, too.

John Vertical

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<MESSAGE index="36560">
From: 

'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 8, 2002  1:47
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Stump


> >Ok, it's a fan-list but really; what's so awful about that review?
>
>I think the main problem is that he seems (to me) to be blaming the band 
>for the compilation's omissions, when of course it's the label's fault, and 
>the band had little to do with it. This is of course nothing new with 
>Castle compilations (Dream Roots, Book of Dreams, Best of the Pink/Blue 
>Years...).


Are you sure that Dream Roots belongs to that list? I'm sure Edgar 
wouldn't've done such a reworking task if the idea was Castle's and against 
his intentions.
Or perhaps they were blackmailing him with giving the overdubbing job to 
someone else? :P

John Vertical

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<MESSAGE index="36561">
From: 

'Dennis Nigbur' <Dennis@m...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 8, 2002  2:33
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] TT2 Complete artwork


On 8 Oct 2002 at 12:11, Matthew Sawyer wrote:

> How about the individual links under the thumbnails or the link to
> Morgans mirror site? Do either of those work for you?

I seem to be successful with the individual packages on Morgan's site. 
Why the large archive doesn't seem to work is beyond me. But it's fine 
now, anyway. Thanks!

Dennis

	
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<MESSAGE index="36562">
From: 

moxica@a... 
Date:  Tue Oct 8, 2002  4:45
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] 3 O'Clock High


It's a fun movie that takes itself seriously enough to 
make you care about what happens to the characters. It 
also doesn't take the 'can't we all just get along?' 
approach of a lot of movies of the era. Extra points 
for the homage to _High Noon_ with the recurrent shots 
of the clock ticking ever closer to 3:00.

I'm confused with the soundtrack, though: there are 
songs which are credited to Levay, but they showed up 
later in some TD comps -- can't remember the names at 
the moment.
> I just happened to watch 3 O'Clock High yesterday with my son. I have to say
> that it is quite an entertaining movie - somewhat of a 'sleeper'. Anyway -
> it get's an 'A' rating from my book. The soundtrack blends in well - but is
> not prominent.

	
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<MESSAGE index="36563">
From: 

quarlie@a... 
Date:  Wed Oct 9, 2002  6:03
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Stump


'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> wrote:

>Are you sure that Dream Roots belongs to that list? I'm sure Edgar 
>wouldn't've done such a reworking task if the idea was Castle's and against 
>his intentions.

Yes, that's right; I didn't mean to suggest that all those compilations were
released without the band's involvement. I was just noting that (for obvious
reasons) none of the various Castle releases feature material between the two
periods that Castle owns. Therefore a TD discographer such as Stump should
reasonably have been aware of the situation, and shouldn't have blamed the band
for absences based on ownership rights rather than intentional track selection.

--Daniel
NP: Clear Vision - Deception

	
</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36564">
From: 

'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 9, 2002  8:58
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Stump


> >Are you sure that Dream Roots belongs to that list? I'm sure Edgar
> >wouldn't've done such a reworking task if the idea was Castle's and 
>against
> >his intentions.
>
>Yes, that's right; I didn't mean to suggest that all those compilations 
>were released without the band's involvement. I was just noting that (for 
>obvious reasons) none of the various Castle releases feature material 
>between the two periods that Castle owns. Therefore a TD discographer such 
>as Stump should reasonably have been aware of the situation, and shouldn't 
>have blamed the band for absences based on ownership rights rather than 
>intentional track selection.
>
>--Daniel


Another point... I wonder what does Castle have against putting bits of 
Pergamon or rare singles (eg Ultima Thule, Dolphin Smile) on those 
never-ending compilations...

My Pergamon is from Castle, but I'm not sure about those singles though.

John Vertical

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<MESSAGE index="36565">
From: 

moxica@a... 
Date:  Wed Oct 9, 2002  6:13
pm
Subject:  Thief


While we're on the topic of movies; I watched the Thief 
DVD with the director's (and actor's) commentary last 
night. Like Near Dark, there's a small mention of the 
soundtrack: how Mann wanted something bluesy for the 
Beach Theme and how it gave Caan a 'headache'. Also a 
lot of good technical explanation for a lot of the 
equipment the characters were using. I had forgotten 
how good the writing was for this film...

- jim

	
</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36566">
From: 

'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 9, 2002  7:14
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Thief


Yea I always thought it a decent movie. I love the Diamond Diary theme...
of course I said that a million times now.
I will have to look for this DVD to add to my collection.
I keep hoping that the 'The KEEP' will also make it.

This theme (overall movie) seems to show up for many more afterwards. I
thought it was pretty original when it first came out.

Dale


----- Original Message -----
From: <moxica@a...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 11:13 AM
Subject: [tadream] Thief


> While we're on the topic of movies; I watched the Thief
> DVD with the director's (and actor's) commentary last
> night. Like Near Dark, there's a small mention of the
> soundtrack: how Mann wanted something bluesy for the
> Beach Theme and how it gave Caan a 'headache'. Also a
> lot of good technical explanation for a lot of the
> equipment the characters were using. I had forgotten
> how good the writing was for this film...
>
> - jim
>
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<MESSAGE index="36567">
From: 

Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 9, 2002  9:30
pm
Subject:  Off Topic 'Manhunter' ost


Does anyone out there know if 'Manhunter' is coming
out on c.d. Not the dvd, but the cd ost. Contact me
privately if necessary.

Wade

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<MESSAGE index="36568">
From: 

David Butler <daventura98@y...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 9, 2002  10:22
pm
Subject:  Reviews


Concerning the Paul Stump thread...You know if I cared
what other people thought, I would have killed myself
a long time ago. Howard Stern had a way of explaining
things to his detractors that I really liked...'If you
don't like my program...change the fucking station'.
Makes sense to me. I agree that Poland is one of TD's
best also. Could I ask a question though? Who is Bill
Fox and why must he post these dreadful long lists of
all those radio programs?
Maybe I'm confused...I thought this was the Tangerine
Dream list. He may play some good EM but I rarely ever
see any TD. Just wondering....David

NP...Yes...Yessongs (Oh no...not TD...sorry)

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<MESSAGE index="36569">
From: 
Synthhtnys@a... 
Date:  Wed Oct 9, 2002  10:42
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Reviews


In a message dated 10/9/2002 3:23:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
daventura98@y... writes:


> Who is Bill
> Fox and why must he post these dreadful long lists of
> all those radio programs?
> Maybe I'm confused...I thought this was the Tangerine
> Dream list. He may play some good EM but I rarely ever
> see any TD. Just wondering....David
> 

*Bill Fox is a respected DJ from Allentown who airs a show of EM. 
There are many who come here asking who other artists are currently 
working in this style.. Bill's lists are a resource for these people to find 
out.
I find it odd that you question what he's doing here in the same post where 
you'd 
quote Howard Stern in a fit of independence: 
'If you don't like my program...change the fucking station'.
Kind of answers your own question doesn't it?
Insert usual comments about the delete key here.
Poly


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<MESSAGE index="36570">
From: 


Morgan Feldon <feldon@f...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 9, 2002  11:03
pm
Subject:  Bill Fox's setlists


>*Bill Fox is a respected DJ from Allentown who airs a show of EM.
>There are many who come here asking who other artists are currently
>working in this style.. Bill's lists are a resource for these people to find
>out.
>I find it odd that you question what he's doing here in the same post where
>you'd
>quote Howard Stern in a fit of independence:
>'If you don't like my program...change the fucking station'.
>Kind of answers your own question doesn't it?
>Insert usual comments about the delete key here.
>Poly

I have to agree with the sentiment that we are getting these weekly 
postings for something we can't even listen to.

If there was a webcast, it would be different, but I get a copy of these 
playlists what seems like 4 times a week between the tadream and 
tangerinedream lists.

If WDIY had a $700 computer with a sound card and a fast internet 
connection, they could get a webcast going in 15 minutes with Shoutcast or 
OGG Streaming.

Bill, is it the internet connection that's holding up the (web)show?

-Morgan


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<MESSAGE index="36571">
From: 

'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 9, 2002  11:11
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Bill Fox's setlists


He hits a few other lists too....

$700? under $700 will do it, just ask me for one...

Morgan your choice of software will do the job nicely...

Then we can hear the show and enjoy the posts.

dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Morgan Feldon' <feldon@f...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 4:03 PM
Subject: [tadream] Bill Fox's setlists


>
> >*Bill Fox is a respected DJ from Allentown who airs a show of EM.
> >There are many who come here asking who other artists are currently
> >working in this style.. Bill's lists are a resource for these people to
find
> >out.
> >I find it odd that you question what he's doing here in the same post
where
> >you'd
> >quote Howard Stern in a fit of independence:
> >'If you don't like my program...change the fucking station'.
> >Kind of answers your own question doesn't it?
> >Insert usual comments about the delete key here.
> >Poly
>
> I have to agree with the sentiment that we are getting these weekly
> postings for something we can't even listen to.
>
> If there was a webcast, it would be different, but I get a copy of these
> playlists what seems like 4 times a week between the tadream and
> tangerinedream lists.
>
> If WDIY had a $700 computer with a sound card and a fast internet
> connection, they could get a webcast going in 15 minutes with Shoutcast or
> OGG Streaming.
>
> Bill, is it the internet connection that's holding up the (web)show?
>
> -Morgan
>
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<MESSAGE index="36572">
From: 

David Butler <daventura98@y...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 9, 2002  11:30
pm
Subject:  Another Query


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<MESSAGE index="36573">
From: 

David Butler <daventura98@y...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 9, 2002  11:34
pm
Subject:  Another Question


Maybe this has already been covered, but I was
wondering why the NEW website is a dot org entity.
Doesn't a dot org denote a nonprofit being? Is TD no
longer interested in making a profit? Can I just make
a yearly contribution and then get all year free?
Don't mind me...I have way too much time on my hands....David

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<MESSAGE index="36574">
From: 

Chris Richards <kohntarkosz@y...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 10, 2002  1:16
am
Subject:  Re: 3:00 High


3:00 High is a really entertaining watch, lots of
great lines ('That's why they call it
Continuation, so you can graduate while
continuing to murder people'), great camerawork,
and just really well constructed in terms of the
plot, pacing, and so forth. 

I love the scene where he tries to get sent to
detention in English class, and succeeds only in
turning on the English teacher. 

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<MESSAGE index="36575">
From: 

<kayleighsdaddy@i...> 
Date:  Fri Oct 11, 2002  1:33
am
Subject:  Tom Richmond Please e-mail me


hey folks, sorry for the off topic, but can Tom Richmond please e-mail me here?
I've changed my e-mail addy to my new domain, and need to get in touch with him.

thanks.

dan


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<MESSAGE index="36576">
From: 

Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 10, 2002  8:54
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Thief


moxica@a... wrote:

> While we're on the topic of movies; I watched the Thief 
> DVD with the director's (and actor's) commentary last 
> night. Like Near Dark, there's a small mention of the 
> soundtrack: how Mann wanted something bluesy for the 
> Beach Theme and how it gave Caan a 'headache'. Also a 


what do you mean? Was he happy with TD's Beach Theme or
the opposite?

armin


> lot of good technical explanation for a lot of the 
> equipment the characters were using. I had forgotten 
> how good the writing was for this film...
> 
> - jim
> 
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<MESSAGE index="36577">
From: 

Marko Marin <rubyconist@y...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 10, 2002  9:25
am
Subject:  [tadream] Re: Thief


--- Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> wrote:
> what do you mean? Was he happy with TD's Beach Theme
> or
> the opposite?
> 
> armin

Propably the opposite. What else can 'headache' mean?!
I have said this many times before and you can burn me
as a heretic but I do not like Beach Theme/Beach
Scene. It's too sweet and romantic. Not for my taste.

Regards,
Marko Marin

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<MESSAGE index="36578">
From: 

<jarek@w...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 10, 2002  9:37
am
Subject:  The Lou Gentile Show


Hi guys!

I've made the complete 'The Lou Gentile Show' recording, which is an
interview with Edgar Froese, available to all of you. You can download it as
a RealMedia file from here:
http://www.tangerinedream.pl/multimedia/Lou_Gentile.rm. The file is of ca.
31 MB.

cheers ;-)

Jarek 'Jerry'
mailto:jarek@w...
Visit my websites at:
http://www.tangerinedream.pl/
http://www.klausmusic.pl/
http://www.wiktorowicz.pl/


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<MESSAGE index="36579">
From: 

Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 10, 2002  11:16
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Thief


Marko Marin wrote:

> --- Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> wrote:
> 
>>what do you mean? Was he happy with TD's Beach Theme
>>or
>>the opposite?
>>
>>armin
>>
> 
> Propably the opposite. What else can 'headache' mean?!


I thought it could mean that Michal Mann was desperate
to find the tune he wanted - thus 'headache' - until
TD came with Beach Theme (BT) which made him finally happy...

I've seen the movie once on tele and found BT absolutely
cheesy and misplaced in the film. However, as a last tune in the
first set of the 97 tour, so just before the break, it
fitted very nice.

Otherwise, I remember that 'Thief' was the first TD album
I bought as a new release - I encountered TD after Tangram
was out, got into all their 70s stuff, and had many expectations
for what comes next. When I then heard BT (after
devouring Tangram, Fource Majeure, Encore etc on so many
evenings), I was majorly disappointed....

cheers

armin


> I have said this many times before and you can burn me
> as a heretic but I do not like Beach Theme/Beach
> Scene. It's too sweet and romantic. Not for my taste.
> 
> Regards,
> Marko Marin
> 
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> 
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<MESSAGE index="36580">
From: 

Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 10, 2002  11:22
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Thief


Armin Theissen wrote:


> Otherwise, I remember that 'Thief' was the first TD album
> I bought as a new release - I encountered TD after Tangram
> was out, got into all their 70s stuff, and had many expectations
> for what comes next. When I then heard BT (after
> devouring Tangram, Fource Majeure, Encore etc on so many
> evenings), I was majorly disappointed....

ah, need to add though that this had also another reason than
finding the track bad - in fact I think its ok.

At that time I was 14/15 years old, and especially around that
time everybody was too happy to show off with bands nobody else
knew. I mean, all your mates at school are into AC/DC, Pink Floyd,
or 70s pop music (well, I still liked Status Quo... ;-)), and than
you come with something sooo weired and - geez - you thought you're
special ;-) A tune like BT made you think something like 'oh no, this
goes back to mainstream, I won't stick out with that anymore in front
of my classmates!'.

...then came NDW (in Germany) but still you had 'Der Plan'
and rubbed into everybody's face that 'Ideal' was produced by
Klaus Schulze... ;-) ;-)

armin

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<MESSAGE index="36581">
From: 

<strat95@b...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 10, 2002  11:35
am
Subject:  Thief on DVD


Is there a super fancy directors cut of Thief on DVD??

I have tried to order this movie on DVD and have found at least three
different versions at one stores listings. I thought I would order the most
expensive on the premise that you get what you pay for.

Any help or suggestions?

Neal


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<MESSAGE index="36582">
From: 
'Peter Ravn' <pr@r...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 10, 2002  11:57
am
Subject:  Tattoo


Hi check

http://members.chello.nl/r.reeker/td tattoo.jpg - linked from
http://members.chello.nl/r.reeker/

A real fan....

Saw his entry in the TD guestbook....

Regards,
Peter


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<MESSAGE index="36583">
From: 
Scribe1964@a... 
Date:  Thu Oct 10, 2002  11:58
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Thief on DVD


The only version of Thief that I've seen on DVD is the 'directors cut' that 
came out on VHS and laserdisc a few years ago. It has a total of one new 
scene and there are many other scenes that have been altered slightly (like 
slow motion that has been digitally sped up). The DVD honestly doesn't look 
very good, and has no extras at all (besides the director commentary). BTW, 
I thought the commentary on Thief was among the worst I have heard. It's 
just another lousy MGM DVD release. Just my opinion.

--Ric

	
</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36584">
From: 

'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 10, 2002  11:59
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Thief


>At that time I was 14/15 years old, and especially around that
>time everybody was too happy to show off with bands nobody else
>knew. I mean, all your mates at school are into AC/DC, Pink Floyd,
>or 70s pop music (well, I still liked Status Quo... ;-)), and than
>you come with something sooo weired and - geez - you thought you're
>special ;-) A tune like BT made you think something like 'oh no, this
>goes back to mainstream, I won't stick out with that anymore in front
>of my classmates!'.


I know one person in our school that listens to Jarre but (unsurprizingly) 
no-one else who'd have ever heard about TD..


>...then came NDW (in Germany) but still you had 'Der Plan'
>and rubbed into everybody's face that 'Ideal' was produced by
>Klaus Schulze... ;-) ;-)
>
>armin


...NDW...? Some KS album perhaps?

John Vertical

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<MESSAGE index="36585">
From: 

'Marcel Engels' <mengels@w...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 10, 2002  12:00
pm
Subject:  news


Hi all,

I know, this is a shameless plug but I thought I
gave you an update.
I've just updated my site with new pictures of the
various concerts (more will come) and 6 new sound
samples of Atmospheric Conditions.
I just about have time to update it because tomorrow
I will be in the hospital with Patricia to get the
baby delivered.

Take care.
Marcel
http://home.wanadoo.nl/mengels
mengels@w...


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<MESSAGE index="36586">
From: 

Falcon <falcon@r...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 10, 2002  12:34
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Thief


At 01:59 PM 10/10/2002, you wrote:
>...NDW...? Some KS album perhaps?

no, 'neue deutsche Welle', means 'new german wave'. Something like 
nintenine red ballon by Nena in the early eighties, real scrap. ;-)

Ramon


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36587">
From: 

TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak <martin@t...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 10, 2002  1:14
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] news


>
>I will be in the hospital with Patricia to get the
>baby delivered.
>
>Take care.
>Marcel
>http://home.wanadoo.nl/mengels
>mengels@w...

Your baby? Congratulations, Marcel!


Best regards,

Martin Kasprzak
TDI- Music- Support.
Tel:-49-30-23620995
Fax:-49-30-23620996

Visit our Website at:

http://www.tangerinedream.org


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36588">
From: 

Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 10, 2002  1:42
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Thief


John Vertical wrote:


> 
> ...NDW...? Some KS album perhaps?
> 

NDW = Neue Deutsche Welle = New German Wave, an early 80s
pop music phenomenon. Suddenly there was pop music with
german lyrics and *not* 'Schlager' songs... It had some
interesting avantgardish bands like 'Der Plan', 'Palais
Schaumburg', 'Deutsch Amerikanische Freundschaft' or
'Aktiengesellschaft' (ups, that was the band I was in...) and also
included such popular bands like 'Nena' (now I guess you
know that one). One big hit was the first album of a rock/pop
band called 'Ideal' which was released on Klaus Schulze's own
label 'IC' at that time. I think it helped Klaus to some
considerable amount of wealth.

Soon everything german was labelled NDW, including Kraftwerk,
and NDW lost its identity, and due to all that massive industry
interference (all crap was sold in the hope to have a hit) the
whole movement vanished within a very few years.

Sad story.


armin

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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36589">
From: 

Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 10, 2002  1:46
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Thief


Falcon wrote:

> At 01:59 PM 10/10/2002, you wrote:
> 
>>...NDW...? Some KS album perhaps?
>>
> 
> no, 'neue deutsche Welle', means 'new german wave'. Something like 
> nintenine red ballon by Nena in the early eighties, real scrap. ;-)

^^^^^^^^

au contraire! As a pop song the 99 red balloons were far superiour
to many others today, and NDW was not only that! see my recent mail.

a.


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> 
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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36590">
From: 

Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 10, 2002  1:48
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] news


Marcel Engels wrote:


> I just about have time to update it because tomorrow
> I will be in the hospital with Patricia to get the
> baby delivered.


congratulations! Tell me how it was, its my turn in
about 2.5 months...

so if its a boy, will it be Edgar, Chris, Peter, Johannes, ....

(just kidding)


> 
> Take care.
> Marcel
> http://home.wanadoo.nl/mengels
> mengels@w...
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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36591">
From: 

'goozergrafx' <goozer@a...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 10, 2002  1:48
pm
Subject:  Re: Thief


Actually, Mann & Caan (hmmmmm...there's a band name) were discussing
in passing the sdtk. Mr. Mann was commenting that he had envisioned
something with a bluesy feeling for the beach scene-whether he liked
what TD provided or not isn't specifically answered. Mr. Caan was the
one who said that *it* (i.e. the whole score) gave him a headache. So
we can rightly infer that he didn't like the score.

--- In tadream@y..., Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> wrote:
> 
> 
> Marko Marin wrote:
> 
> > --- Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> wrote:
> > 
> >>what do you mean? Was he happy with TD's Beach Theme
> >>or
> >>the opposite?
> >>
> >>armin
> >>
> > 
> > Propably the opposite. What else can 'headache' mean?!
> 
> 
> I thought it could mean that Michal Mann was desperate
> to find the tune he wanted - thus 'headache' - until
> TD came with Beach Theme (BT) which made him finally happy...
> 
> I've seen the movie once on tele and found BT absolutely
> cheesy and misplaced in the film. However, as a last tune in the
> first set of the 97 tour, so just before the break, it
> fitted very nice.
> 
> Otherwise, I remember that 'Thief' was the first TD album
> I bought as a new release - I encountered TD after Tangram
> was out, got into all their 70s stuff, and had many expectations
> for what comes next. When I then heard BT (after
> devouring Tangram, Fource Majeure, Encore etc on so many
> evenings), I was majorly disappointed....
> 
> cheers
> 
> armin
> 
> 
> > I have said this many times before and you can burn me
> > as a heretic but I do not like Beach Theme/Beach
> > Scene. It's too sweet and romantic. Not for my taste.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Marko Marin


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36592">
From: 

'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 10, 2002  3:49
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Thief


>Actually, Mann & Caan (hmmmmm...there's a band name) were discussing
>in passing the sdtk. Mr. Mann was commenting that he had envisioned
>something with a bluesy feeling for the beach scene-whether he liked
>what TD provided or not isn't specifically answered. Mr. Caan was the
>one who said that *it* (i.e. the whole score) gave him a headache. So
>we can rightly infer that he didn't like the score.


And, can anyone really claim that Beach Theme would be bluesy? I, for one, 
don't. More like laxly lying & sunbathing on that beach, than that something 
which is supposed to make the scene bluesy...


>NDW = Neue Deutsche Welle = New German Wave
---
>and also
>included such popular bands like 'Nena' (now I guess you
>know that one).


In fact I don't. Might be because I was born in '85. But I don't care, don't 
please start lecturing about them...

John Vertical

np: Waterborne

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<MESSAGE index="36593">
From: 

moxica@a... 
Date:  Thu Oct 10, 2002  2:46
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Thief


Yes, I meant to clarify that point. Caan makes the 
comment to Mann during the opening credits: 'You and 
your Tangerine Dream!'

I would think that Mann liked it, as he picked them to 
do his next film. And Heat followed a very similar 
trend, though with a multitude of artists (and 
introduced me to Michael Brook -- 'Ultramarine' rocks!).

- jim

> Actually, Mann & Caan (hmmmmm...there's a band name) were discussing
> in passing the sdtk. Mr. Mann was commenting that he had envisioned
> something with a bluesy feeling for the beach scene-whether he liked
> what TD provided or not isn't specifically answered. Mr. Caan was the
> one who said that *it* (i.e. the whole score) gave him a headache. So
> we can rightly infer that he didn't like the score.

	
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<MESSAGE index="36594">
From: 

Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 10, 2002  3:15
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] The Lou Gentile Show


Please do not talk about violating someone's
copywright like this. If you must do so do it
privately.

Wade Gordon
--- jarek@w... wrote:
> Hi guys!
> 
> I've made the complete 'The Lou Gentile Show'
> recording, which is an
> interview with Edgar Froese, available to all of
> you. You can download it as
> a RealMedia file from here:
>
http://www.tangerinedream.pl/multimedia/Lou_Gentile.rm.
> The file is of ca.
> 31 MB.
> 
> cheers ;-)
> 
> Jarek 'Jerry'
> mailto:jarek@w...
> Visit my websites at:
> http://www.tangerinedream.pl/
> http://www.klausmusic.pl/
> http://www.wiktorowicz.pl/
> 
> 
> 
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<MESSAGE index="36595">
From: 

<jarek@w...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 10, 2002  4:20
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] The Lou Gentile Show


Ok.

Jarek 'Jerry'
mailto:jarek@w...
Visit my websites at:
http://www.tangerinedream.pl/
http://www.klausmusic.pl/
http://www.wiktorowicz.pl/


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wade Gordon [mailto:mindvoyager1@y...]
> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 5:15 PM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [tadream] The Lou Gentile Show
> 
> 
> Please do not talk about violating someone's
> copywright like this. If you must do so do it
> privately.
> 
> Wade Gordon
> --- jarek@w... wrote:
> > Hi guys!
> > 
> > I've made the complete 'The Lou Gentile Show'
> > recording, which is an
> > interview with Edgar Froese, available to all of
> > you. You can download it as
> > a RealMedia file from here:
> >
> http://www.tangerinedream.pl/multimedia/Lou_Gentile.rm.
> > The file is of ca.
> > 31 MB.
> > 
> > cheers ;-)
> > 
> > Jarek 'Jerry'
> > mailto:jarek@w...
> > Visit my websites at:
> > http://www.tangerinedream.pl/
> > http://www.klausmusic.pl/
> > http://www.wiktorowicz.pl/
> > 
> > 
> > 
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<MESSAGE index="36596">
From: 

'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 10, 2002  4:28
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] The Lou Gentile Show


Wade
just for archive only....
I will not sell or make anything off of anything like this...

We all like TD, that is why we are here. There are some who could not listen
to it. Perhaps if Lou Gentile would offer them on the site for sale this
would never happen. I buy it right away...

Dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Wade Gordon' <mindvoyager1@y...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: [tadream] The Lou Gentile Show


> Please do not talk about violating someone's
> copywright like this. If you must do so do it
> privately.
>
> Wade Gordon
> --- jarek@w... wrote:
> > Hi guys!
> >
> > I've made the complete 'The Lou Gentile Show'
> > recording, which is an
> > interview with Edgar Froese, available to all of
> > you. You can download it as
> > a RealMedia file from here:
> >
> http://www.tangerinedream.pl/multimedia/Lou_Gentile.rm.
> > The file is of ca.
> > 31 MB.
> >
> > cheers ;-)
> >
> > Jarek 'Jerry'
> > mailto:jarek@w...
> > Visit my websites at:
> > http://www.tangerinedream.pl/
> > http://www.klausmusic.pl/
> > http://www.wiktorowicz.pl/
> >
> >
> >
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<MESSAGE index="36597">
From: 

'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 10, 2002  4:18
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] The Lou Gentile Show


Cool

I also have it if anyone cares for CD distribution.

MP3's or audio...

Uncut... I wanted a full reference...

dale

----- Original Message -----
From: <jarek@w...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 2:37 AM
Subject: [tadream] The Lou Gentile Show


> Hi guys!
>
> I've made the complete 'The Lou Gentile Show' recording, which is an
> interview with Edgar Froese, available to all of you. You can download it
as
> a RealMedia file from here:
> http://www.tangerinedream.pl/multimedia/Lou_Gentile.rm. The file is of ca.
> 31 MB.
>
> cheers ;-)
>
> Jarek 'Jerry'
> mailto:jarek@w...
> Visit my websites at:
> http://www.tangerinedream.pl/
> http://www.klausmusic.pl/
> http://www.wiktorowicz.pl/
>
>
>
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>
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<MESSAGE index="36598">
From: 

'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 10, 2002  6:59
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Thief


Its been years since this was shown on UK television, and its about time...
I too like the Diamond diary/scrap yard theme-its very much like Silver
scale....
Paulus.d

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Administrator' <admin@k...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Thief


> Yea I always thought it a decent movie. I love the Diamond Diary theme...
> of course I said that a million times now.
> I will have to look for this DVD to add to my collection.
> I keep hoping that the 'The KEEP' will also make it.
>
> This theme (overall movie) seems to show up for many more afterwards. I
> thought it was pretty original when it first came out.
>
> Dale
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <moxica@a...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 11:13 AM
> Subject: [tadream] Thief
>
>
> > While we're on the topic of movies; I watched the Thief
> > DVD with the director's (and actor's) commentary last
> > night. Like Near Dark, there's a small mention of the
> > soundtrack: how Mann wanted something bluesy for the
> > Beach Theme and how it gave Caan a 'headache'. Also a
> > lot of good technical explanation for a lot of the
> > equipment the characters were using. I had forgotten
> > how good the writing was for this film...
> >
> > - jim
> >
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<MESSAGE index="36599">
From: 

'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 10, 2002  7:09
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] news


I hope you remembered to play TD during the birth!
Congrats by the way to Marcel and yourself!
Paulus.d_uk

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Armin Theissen' <Armin.Theissen@s...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] news


>
>
> Marcel Engels wrote:
>
>
> > I just about have time to update it because tomorrow
> > I will be in the hospital with Patricia to get the
> > baby delivered.
>
>
> congratulations! Tell me how it was, its my turn in
> about 2.5 months...
>
> so if its a boy, will it be Edgar, Chris, Peter, Johannes, ....
>
> (just kidding)
>
>
> >
> > Take care.
> > Marcel
> > http://home.wanadoo.nl/mengels
> > mengels@w...
> >
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<MESSAGE index="36600">
From: 

'Scott' <splumer@w...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 10, 2002  8:13
pm
Subject:  Re: Thief


The commentary track to the DVD must be different from the laser disc,
because my friend has the laser disc and Mann goes on at length about TD and
how important music is to him personally and in his films.

Scott


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<MESSAGE index="36601">
From: 

Deb H-J <dhj4@y...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 10, 2002  8:18
pm
Subject:  Bill Fox's Set Lists


Morgan, et. al.:

<< I have to agree with the sentiment that we are
getting these weekly postings for something we can't
even listen to. >>

Personally, I like getting Bill's lists because it
gives me a good idea of what's out there, and as a
collector of em music, its a good exposure to artists
I'd not heard of before (like Rudy Adrian). No...I
can't get the show...but its not that difficult to
download an mp3 or two featuring an artist he is
giving exposure to. 

He does feature TD, more often than not, and many of
the artists he feature are their 'inspirees.' 

Bill does look a bit like Gary Sinise, the actor who
played in the tv dramatization of 'The Stand.' He also
plays a mean guitar, as we heard on the new Oke
preview.

Adios,

Deb H-J
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<MESSAGE index="36602">
From: 

'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 10, 2002  7:06
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Thief


The interview I remember from Chris Franke was that the Thief soundtrack was
trying to create a drilling into your head with the music-seems they got it
right then........
Paulus.d
----- Original Message -----
From: 'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Thief


> >Actually, Mann & Caan (hmmmmm...there's a band name) were discussing
> >in passing the sdtk. Mr. Mann was commenting that he had envisioned
> >something with a bluesy feeling for the beach scene-whether he liked
> >what TD provided or not isn't specifically answered. Mr. Caan was the
> >one who said that *it* (i.e. the whole score) gave him a headache. So
> >we can rightly infer that he didn't like the score.
>
>
> And, can anyone really claim that Beach Theme would be bluesy? I, for one,
> don't. More like laxly lying & sunbathing on that beach, than that
something
> which is supposed to make the scene bluesy...
>
>
> >NDW = Neue Deutsche Welle = New German Wave
> ---
> >and also
> >included such popular bands like 'Nena' (now I guess you
> >know that one).
>
>
> In fact I don't. Might be because I was born in '85. But I don't care,
don't
> please start lecturing about them...
>
> John Vertical
>
> np: Waterborne
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<MESSAGE index="36603">
From: 

Falcon <falcon@r...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 10, 2002  8:17
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] news


At 09:09 PM 10/10/2002, you wrote:
>I hope you remembered to play TD during the birth!
>Congrats by the way to Marcel and yourself!

Congratz from me, too. =)
I'd recommended Tangram Set 2 :-)

Ramon


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<MESSAGE index="36604">
From: 

Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 10, 2002  9:11
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] The Lou Gentile Show


Dale,

I appriciate your disgression in this regard. Lou
does have the original master and so do I. People
simply need to be discreet and we will accomodate
people. Lets just keep this private.

Wade
--- Administrator <admin@k...> wrote:
> Wade
> just for archive only....
> I will not sell or make anything off of anything
> like this...
> 
> We all like TD, that is why we are here. There are
> some who could not listen
> to it. Perhaps if Lou Gentile would offer them on
> the site for sale this
> would never happen. I buy it right away...
> 
> Dale
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Wade Gordon' <mindvoyager1@y...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 8:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [tadream] The Lou Gentile Show
> 
> 
> > Please do not talk about violating someone's
> > copywright like this. If you must do so do it
> > privately.
> >
> > Wade Gordon
> > --- jarek@w... wrote:
> > > Hi guys!
> > >
> > > I've made the complete 'The Lou Gentile Show'
> > > recording, which is an
> > > interview with Edgar Froese, available to all of
> > > you. You can download it as
> > > a RealMedia file from here:
> > >
> >
>
http://www.tangerinedream.pl/multimedia/Lou_Gentile.rm.
> > > The file is of ca.
> > > 31 MB.
> > >
> > > cheers ;-)
> > >
> > > Jarek 'Jerry'
> > > mailto:jarek@w...
> > > Visit my websites at:
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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<MESSAGE index="36605">
From: 

'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 10, 2002  9:11
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Bill Fox's Set Lists


true

I just wish we could enjoy it a bit. Reading is one thing, hearing is
another.

dale

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Deb H-J' <dhj4@y...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 1:18 PM
Subject: [tadream] Bill Fox's Set Lists


> Morgan, et. al.:
>
> << I have to agree with the sentiment that we are
> getting these weekly postings for something we can't
> even listen to. >>
>
> Personally, I like getting Bill's lists because it
> gives me a good idea of what's out there, and as a
> collector of em music, its a good exposure to artists
> I'd not heard of before (like Rudy Adrian). No...I
> can't get the show...but its not that difficult to
> download an mp3 or two featuring an artist he is
> giving exposure to.
>
> He does feature TD, more often than not, and many of
> the artists he feature are their 'inspirees.'
>
> Bill does look a bit like Gary Sinise, the actor who
> played in the tv dramatization of 'The Stand.' He also
> plays a mean guitar, as we heard on the new Oke
> preview.
>
> Adios,
>
> Deb H-J
> dhj4@y...
>
> np - Erik Wollo bee-yoo-tiful guitar music
>
>
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>
>
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<MESSAGE index="36606">
From: 
Synthhtnys@a... 
Date:  Thu Oct 10, 2002  9:22
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Bill Fox's Set Lists


In a message dated 10/10/2002 2:14:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
admin@k... writes:


> true
> 
> I just wish we could enjoy it a bit. Reading is one thing, hearing is
> another.
> 
> dale
> 

*Yeah, it would be nice if it could be streamed... There are however a couple 
of other programs doing just that you might want to check out.
www.starsend.org
www.echoes.org
Poly


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<MESSAGE index="36607">
From: 

Dan Downey <djambient@y...> 
Date:  Thu Oct 10, 2002  8:53
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Thief


A few months ago this played on local TV in the Boston
area and I was pleasently surprised that, instead of a
synopsis of the movie, the only comment was 'Music by
Tangerine Dream'

--- Paul Dryden <paulus.d@f...> wrote:
> Its been years since this was shown on UK
> television, and its about time...
> I too like the Diamond diary/scrap yard theme-its
> very much like Silver
> scale....
> Paulus.d
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Administrator' <admin@k...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [tadream] Thief
> 
> 
> > Yea I always thought it a decent movie. I love the
> Diamond Diary theme...
> > of course I said that a million times now.
> > I will have to look for this DVD to add to my
> collection.
> > I keep hoping that the 'The KEEP' will also make
> it.
> >
> > This theme (overall movie) seems to show up for
> many more afterwards. I
> > thought it was pretty original when it first came
> out.
> >
> > Dale
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <moxica@a...>
> > To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 11:13 AM
> > Subject: [tadream] Thief
> >
> >
> > > While we're on the topic of movies; I watched
> the Thief
> > > DVD with the director's (and actor's) commentary
> last
> > > night. Like Near Dark, there's a small mention
> of the
> > > soundtrack: how Mann wanted something bluesy for
> the
> > > Beach Theme and how it gave Caan a 'headache'. 
> Also a
> > > lot of good technical explanation for a lot of
> the
> > > equipment the characters were using. I had
> forgotten
> > > how good the writing was for this film...
> > >
> > > - jim
> > >
> > >
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<MESSAGE index="36608">
From: 

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Date:  Fri Oct 11, 2002  5:56
am
Subject:  ignore


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<MESSAGE index="36609">
From: 

quarlie@a... 
Date:  Fri Oct 11, 2002  6:51
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Bill Fox's Set Lists


My only objection to Bill posting his playlists is that he crossposts them all
to tangerinedream. Is that necessary? Honestly, how many people are on
tangerinedream who aren't on tadream?

--Daniel
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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36610">
From: 

Marko Marin <rubyconist@y...> 
Date:  Fri Oct 11, 2002  9:22
am
Subject:  [tadream] Albums for trade


If you're interested, contact me soon (before tomorrow
that is) off-list!!

TD - Le Parc (vinyl)
Mike Oldfield - Ommadawn (vinyl re-release from '80s)
Jerry Goldsmith - Total Recall Deluxe

Regards,
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<MESSAGE index="36611">
From: 

Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> 
Date:  Fri Oct 11, 2002  1:43
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Thief


goozergrafx wrote:

> Actually, Mann & Caan (hmmmmm...there's a band name) were discussing
> in passing the sdtk. Mr. Mann was commenting that he had envisioned
> something with a bluesy feeling for the beach scene-whether he liked
> what TD provided or not isn't specifically answered. Mr. Caan was the
> one who said that *it* (i.e. the whole score) gave him a headache. So
> we can rightly infer that he didn't like the score.


but still hired TD again for The Keep ???

a.


> 
> --- In tadream@y..., Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> wrote:
> 
>>
>>Marko Marin wrote:
>>
>>
>>>--- Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>what do you mean? Was he happy with TD's Beach Theme
>>>>or
>>>>the opposite?
>>>>
>>>>armin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Propably the opposite. What else can 'headache' mean?!
>>>
>>
>>I thought it could mean that Michal Mann was desperate
>>to find the tune he wanted - thus 'headache' - until
>>TD came with Beach Theme (BT) which made him finally happy...
>>
>>I've seen the movie once on tele and found BT absolutely
>>cheesy and misplaced in the film. However, as a last tune in the
>>first set of the 97 tour, so just before the break, it
>>fitted very nice.
>>
>>Otherwise, I remember that 'Thief' was the first TD album
>>I bought as a new release - I encountered TD after Tangram
>>was out, got into all their 70s stuff, and had many expectations
>>for what comes next. When I then heard BT (after
>>devouring Tangram, Fource Majeure, Encore etc on so many
>>evenings), I was majorly disappointed....
>>
>>cheers
>>
>>armin
>>
>>
>>
>>>I have said this many times before and you can burn me
>>>as a heretic but I do not like Beach Theme/Beach
>>>Scene. It's too sweet and romantic. Not for my taste.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Marko Marin
>>>
> 
> 
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<MESSAGE index="36612">
From: 

Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> 
Date:  Fri Oct 11, 2002  1:45
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] The Lou Gentile Show


erm, an mp3 file would be cool, yes.... ;-)

a.

Administrator wrote:

> Cool
> 
> I also have it if anyone cares for CD distribution.
> 
> MP3's or audio...
> 
> Uncut... I wanted a full reference...
> 
> dale
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <jarek@w...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 2:37 AM
> Subject: [tadream] The Lou Gentile Show
> 
> 
> 
>>Hi guys!
>>
>>I've made the complete 'The Lou Gentile Show' recording, which is an
>>interview with Edgar Froese, available to all of you. You can download it
>>
> as
> 
>>a RealMedia file from here:
>>http://www.tangerinedream.pl/multimedia/Lou_Gentile.rm. The file is of ca.
>>31 MB.
>>
>>cheers ;-)
>>
>>Jarek 'Jerry'
>>mailto:jarek@w...
>>Visit my websites at:
>>http://www.tangerinedream.pl/
>>http://www.klausmusic.pl/
>>http://www.wiktorowicz.pl/
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>>
> 
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<MESSAGE index="36613">
From: 

'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Fri Oct 11, 2002  3:19
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Bill Fox's Set Lists


Maybe Joe can answer that. I fully understand as I get his stuff on just
about each list I am also on. I just been sorting them and deleting them out
before I archive. If he was the only one I had to do this, I might be more
upset if at all. He isn't. So I just use my delete key and move on.


dale


----- Original Message -----
From: <quarlie@a...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 11:51 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Bill Fox's Set Lists


> My only objection to Bill posting his playlists is that he crossposts them
all to tangerinedream. Is that necessary? Honestly, how many people are on
tangerinedream who aren't on tadream?
>
> --Daniel
> NP: Jurassic 5 - Power in Numbers
>
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> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36614">
From: 

'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...> 
Date:  Fri Oct 11, 2002  5:19
pm
Subject:  Last call for Classic Tree signup


Just a reminder that the signup deadline for the Classic Tree is this Sunday. If
you haven't signed up yet and want to participate, please go to the Classic Tree
database at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tadream/database and enter your
information. My original message with the Tree details is here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tadream/message/36391

Next week I'll be sorting out the tree structure, and then I'll distribute
copies the discs to all the people assigned to the first level of the tree.


Maff
_________________________________________________
www.tachyon-tv.co.uk www.tangent.da.ru
www.mst3uk.com


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36615">
From: 

'goozergrafx' <goozer@a...> 
Date:  Fri Oct 11, 2002  7:55
pm
Subject:  Re: Thief


Hey Armin-

You're confusing the actor James Caan with the director Michael Mann. 

Cheers,
goozer

> 
> but still hired TD again for The Keep ???
> 
> a.


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36616">
From: 

Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Fri Oct 11, 2002  9:11
pm
Subject:  Off Topic-The New NAV Magazine


Hey gang,

Go to The New Age Voice website and check out the
article on ambient music. It is mind blowing.

Wade

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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36617">
From: 

Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Fri Oct 11, 2002  9:17
pm
Subject:  Off Topic- 'Sound Explorer'


I have just planned out a program to discuss the NAV
Ambient article. Let me know your thoughts on the
matter.

Wade

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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36618">
From: 

'Marcel Engels' <mengels@w...> 
Date:  Fri Oct 11, 2002  9:32
pm
Subject:  RE: [beyond_em] Re: news


Hi,

just a quick update as I'm (Patricia even more)
exhausted right now.
Patricia gave birth to our son, Luka and both are
doing great!
It's been a very long day, but at the end everything
went very quick and also very good.
I can't describe the feeling I/we have right now.
About epidural (Grant asked): in Holland it is
quite rare that you're given epidural for pain
relief...I guess it's the old fashion way over here. :-)

Thanks for all the replies/mail and as soon as
I'm back on earth I will answer them.

Take care.
Marcel
http://home.wanadoo.nl/mengels
mengels@w...
proud owner of not only synths but a son as well!


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36619">
From: 

David Butler <daventura98@y...> 
Date:  Fri Oct 11, 2002  10:07
pm
Subject:  Bill and the tattoo


Now I really wish I hadn't said anything about Bill's
playlist...oh well. About the tattoo...very cool. I'm
sure you'll get the same comments that I get when I
wear the hat with the same logo...'What exactly is
that, anyway'? On the other topic I got no
replies...tangerinedream.ORG? Just wondering....David

NP...Alan Parsons Project...Pyramid (cool TDish tune
called Hyper-Gamma Spaces)

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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36620">
From: 

'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Fri Oct 11, 2002  10:27
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Bill and the tattoo


Now you done it...

You crossed AP with TD...
I have to disagree with you on saying AP has TD'ish tunes. Totally
different... in my books...
I also have every single AP vinyl released and CD, and yes several
cassetes...

;-)

dale

----- Original Message -----
From: 'David Butler' <daventura98@y...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 3:07 PM
Subject: [tadream] Bill and the tattoo
>
> NP...Alan Parsons Project...Pyramid (cool TDish tune
> called Hyper-Gamma Spaces)


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36621">
From: 

David Butler <daventura98@y...> 
Date:  Fri Oct 11, 2002  10:54
pm
Subject:  Tree huggin


OK, here I am again. Will someone please burn me some
copies of TT1 and 2. I can send CASH, that you can buy
your own blanks with. I would appreciate any
help...thanks. I know it sounds like I'm begging but
I'm dying for a good TD fix since all mine was lost in
Reno a few years back....Daventura

It's funny ya know...I no longer live in Ventura but I
still go by Daventura...hmmm...when I was in
Reno...Davereno...but now I live in a town called
Ukiah...any suggestions?

__________________________________________________
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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36622">
From: 

Rolf Elfström <rcade@r...> 
Date:  Fri Oct 11, 2002  11:55
pm
Subject:  Re: OT for the Swedish ( translation-Trettioåriga Kriget)


>There's a band from the seventies, Trettioåriga Kriget, prog rock, I like 
>their first album very much, which is the only one I have so far because 
>it's very hard to find.

Hard to find???

Not at all, their first album 'Trettioåriga Kriget' (1974) and
second album 'Krigssång' (1975) are both available on CD from

http://www.skivhugget.com/

(Just put 'trettio' in the searchfield)

At least 'Krigssång' has bonus tracks added.
Don't know about the first one.

€18.78 / each, they ship all over the world.
Delivery in 1-3 weeks...

BTW: 'fjärilsattityder' means 'Butterfly attitudes'

Rolf

PS. If you still need help with the lyrics, contact me offlist.

Trivia: 'The Thirty Years War' was a religious war fought
in Germany and central Europe between 1618-1648. Sweden engaged
in the war and battled Poland (Hey!! TD reference!) and others.
We lost our king Gustaf II Adolf in the battle of Lützen...
More info:
http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/riley/787/30/index.html


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36623">
From: 

'Adele Outland' <outlanda60@h...> 
Date:  Sat Oct 12, 2002  12:56
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Bill Fox's Set Lists


I'm such a TD freak that I listen to almost nothing else. I have to be 
forced to try anyone new. Bill has forced me to do that because of winning a 
couple of albums at Oke that he contributed to the game box. I now find that 
I really like Nightcrawlers and Orbital Decay. These are both albums that he 
recorded from live interviews on his show I believe. Anyway, his aim is 
furthering all forms of electronic music to keep the genre alive. His set 
lists are there to stimulate that interest hopefully. 8-Dell

All IMO of course.
NP: Fassbinder ( I stray only so far)
And, yeah, Bill's yellow guitar is one of my favorite memories.


As time slips into memory, memory fades into dreams.


>From: Deb H-J <dhj4@y...>
>Reply-To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
>To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [tadream] Bill Fox's Set Lists
>Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 13:18:24 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Morgan, et. al.:
>
><< I have to agree with the sentiment that we are
>getting these weekly postings for something we can't
>even listen to. >>
>
>Personally, I like getting Bill's lists because it
>gives me a good idea of what's out there, and as a
>collector of em music, its a good exposure to artists
>I'd not heard of before (like Rudy Adrian). No...I
>can't get the show...but its not that difficult to
>download an mp3 or two featuring an artist he is
>giving exposure to.
>
>He does feature TD, more often than not, and many of
>the artists he feature are their 'inspirees.'
>
>Bill does look a bit like Gary Sinise, the actor who
>played in the tv dramatization of 'The Stand.' He also
>plays a mean guitar, as we heard on the new Oke
>preview.
>
>Adios,
>
>Deb H-J
>dhj4@y...
>
>np - Erik Wollo bee-yoo-tiful guitar music


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36624">
From: 

'Jim Moore' <moxica@a...> 
Date:  Sat Oct 12, 2002  12:59
am
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Tree huggin


From: David Butler [mailto:daventura98@y...] 
>It's funny ya know...I no longer live in Ventura but I
still go by Daventura...hmmm...when I was in Reno...Davereno...but now I
live in a town called Ukiah...any suggestions?

Cool -- that's 'Haiku' spelled backwards...

- jimbo


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36625">
From: 

'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Sat Oct 12, 2002  7:07
am
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Tree huggin


> >It's funny ya know...I no longer live in Ventura but I
>still go by Daventura...hmmm...when I was in Reno...Davereno...but now I
>live in a town called Ukiah...any suggestions?
>
>Cool -- that's 'Haiku' spelled backwards...
>
>- jimbo


Bukiahtler?
Would probably resemble 'Buck Hitler' too much...

John Vertical

_________________________________________________________________
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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36626">
From: 

'Paul Lawler' <lawlermusic@b...> 
Date:  Sat Oct 12, 2002  10:36
am
Subject:  OT message order


I`m getting messages in the wrong order throughout the day ??? is anybody
else having this .Sometimes I post a message and it never makes to the lists
but the replies to my message do ?
Bloody computers !

Paul


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36627">
From: 

Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Sat Oct 12, 2002  1:58
pm
Subject:  Off Topic-Sound Explorer


After discussions with Peter Manzi Managing Editor of
NAV Magazine. I am proud to announce an upcoming
program special. On 'Sound Explorer' I will play the
music in the NAV article and I on the Lou Gentile Show
I will cohost with Lou and we will have on the program
Live the artists mentioned in the article. We will go
down the list and talk to the majority of artists
mentioned in the article. See site for more details.

Wade

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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36628">
From: 

'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...> 
Date:  Sat Oct 12, 2002  2:17
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] OT message order


MY message order comes through wrong too!!!
I thought I had some kinda weird sort applied in outlook express!
PAulus.d_uk

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Paul Lawler' <lawlermusic@b...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 11:36 AM
Subject: [tadream] OT message order


> I`m getting messages in the wrong order throughout the day ??? is anybody
> else having this .Sometimes I post a message and it never makes to the
lists
> but the replies to my message do ?
> Bloody computers !
>
> Paul
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36629">
From: 
'vic rek' <tangerinedream@a...> 
Date:  Sat Oct 12, 2002  8:33
pm
Subject:  NICO vs. Trance Groove


I just pick up an obscure CD from Japan. It is a mini CD with 3 tracks
(diff. mixes) titled 'NICO vs. Trance Groove'. The tracks were written by
Lutz Ulbrich (Agitation Free) and produced by Chris Franke, 1980.. You may
want to check out www.luul.de if you can get a copy. The CD is actually from
Germany, but the one I have has a Japanese OBI (wrapper/bun) around it.

Vic


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36630">
From: 

'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Sat Oct 12, 2002  6:20
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] OT message order


>MY message order comes through wrong too!!!
>I thought I had some kinda weird sort applied in outlook express!
>PAulus.d_uk
>
> > I`m getting messages in the wrong order throughout the day ??? is 
>anybody
> > else having this .Sometimes I post a message and it never makes to the
>lists
> > but the replies to my message do ?
> > Bloody computers !
> >
> > Paul


Me three! The occasional bloody long delays I'd understand, but this 
mishmeshing sometimes makes following a thread really confusing.

John Vertical

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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36631">
From: 

'Admin' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Sat Oct 12, 2002  8:46
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] OT message order


Just yahoo....
Not you.. and yes I can speak for myself, I get this allot... Sometimes it
isn't noticeable. It always happens when I am sticking my foot in my mouth.
I have this list to prove it if wish to look into it a bit more.

There is a cycle. I say for about 1 month, it worked fine, then the last
week, it's been slow to post, slow to show and out of order.

dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Paul Lawler' <lawlermusic@b...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 3:36 AM
Subject: [tadream] OT message order


> I`m getting messages in the wrong order throughout the day ??? is anybody
> else having this .Sometimes I post a message and it never makes to the
lists
> but the replies to my message do ?
> Bloody computers !
>
> Paul
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36632">
From: 

'Joe Shoults' <joe@t...> 
Date:  Sun Oct 13, 2002  3:16
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] OT message order


sorry, there is no setting I can adjust to change any of this. this is a
mail server issue at yahoo.

But it is very weird for Paul's messages to skip himself. This is a feature
of some old style mailing lists, but not an option in yahoo.

-joe

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Vertical [mailto:johnvertical@h...]
> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 2:20 PM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [tadream] OT message order
>
>
> >MY message order comes through wrong too!!!
> >I thought I had some kinda weird sort applied in outlook express!
> >PAulus.d_uk
> >
> > > I`m getting messages in the wrong order throughout the day ??? is
> >anybody
> > > else having this .Sometimes I post a message and it never makes to the
> >lists
> > > but the replies to my message do ?
> > > Bloody computers !
> > >
> > > Paul
>
>
> Me three! The occasional bloody long delays I'd understand, but this
> mishmeshing sometimes makes following a thread really confusing.
>
> John Vertical
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
> http://www.hotmail.com
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36633">
From: 

'syngate' <mail@s...> 
Date:  Sat Oct 12, 2002  3:54
pm
Subject:  SynGate News 10/2002: new Frank Klare CD


Dear friends of synthesizer based music,

www.syngate.net presents the great comeback of Frank Klare: Berlin 
Sequences

Frank Klare played the old Berlin School style of electronic music 
since 1981 solo and w/SYNCO (84-93).

plus:

CD: Lazarus Heart - Open The Sky
CD: White Noise V 'Sound Mind'
CD: Music For The 3rd Millenium Vol.2 
CD: Harald Grosskopf - Digital Nomad
CD: N-Tribe - Yellow Marker
mp3 artist: David Parry
mp3 artist: Elektro 80
CD: Kayanis - Synesthesis
CD: Frank Van Bogaert - Human
CD: Baltes / Grosskopf / Heilhecker - 4 x 3
CD: Corciolli - All That Binds Us 
Ashra Special v7.8: Die Mulde 
CD: Kubusschnitt - Singularity
CD: Syndromeda - In Touch With The Stars
CD: The Glimmer Room - Tomorrow's Tuesday
CD: Otarion - Creator
CD: Air Sculpture - Impossible Geometries
Artist/CDs: Artur Lason
CD: Syn - Soundwave Traveller
CD: V.A. - Mystic Spirits Vol.6
Artist/CDs: Mike Andrews
Artist/CDs: Navigator 

With kind regards

Lothar

P.S.: Please forward this mail to all your music related friends. 
Thanks to all artists and labels for helping SynGate growing to the 
actual shape :-)


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36634">
From: 

'Tom Overstreet' <otomsgarden@m...> 
Date:  Sun Oct 13, 2002  9:38
am
Subject:  Hi I'm new here and


I discovered you guys via prog_cdr when I picked up TT2 (super great stuff ) 
so now I'm here and have signed up for two other trees. I've been trading prog 
stuff for about a year but just got into TD. Hope to have dealings with all of
you 
soon.

Thom


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36635">
From: 

'Martin Mckee' <atroller@b...> 
Date:  Sun Oct 13, 2002  1:08
pm
Subject:  TT3


Hi,

Just wondering if The TT3 signup is initiated
through email, or if I add my name directly
onto the TT3 database?

Thief: Mann comments at about 1/2 way through
the DVD about a particular stretch where cann
and belushi are initially doing a robbery -
then are seen on a beach. During this stretch
The Music by TD moves from Dr Destructo-ish[i think!]
to the familiar beach theme. His comments
seem to suggest that he is quite fond of the
sequence..and Edgar Froese.. 

Oh well, maybe if there is a Keep DVD
he'll do a commentary..;-] 

Atroller


[moderator's note: we added you to the TT3 database, but you need to go in also
and complete _all_ the following 'user-defined' fields:

Full Name: 
E-mail: 
Location: 
Branch or Leaf: 
# of leaves you'll support: 
Format - Redbook or SHN: 
Notes: 
]


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36636">
From: 

'Marcel Engels' <mengels@w...> 
Date:  Sun Oct 13, 2002  5:17
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] OT message order


> From: Joe Shoults [mailto:joe@t...] 
> 
> sorry, there is no setting I can adjust to change any of 
> this. this is a mail server issue at yahoo.
> 
> But it is very weird for Paul's messages to skip himself. 
> This is a feature of some old style mailing lists, but not an 
> option in yahoo.
> 
> -joe

I had a lot of troubles with Yahoo about 2 or 3 weeks
ago. Messages not coming thru or not receiving my own
message but instead receiving a reply/answer on that
message. Very weird.

Marcel
http://home.wanadoo.nl/mengels
mengels@w...


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36637">
From: 

'humboldtmjwcool' <fastcorvetteman9@h...> 
Date:  Fri Oct 11, 2002  7:28
pm
Subject:  Thief Sndtrk.


Speaking of this one,

Is there a show with this on it ?? I have been keeping my eyes 
open for it but with no luck.
good book,good movie, Great Soundtrack !!!

Thanks for the help,

Oh by the way I am new here ,as of yesterday,and would like to 
just say hi and thanks !

Mike W.


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36638">
From: 

<heiko@o...> 
Date:  Sun Oct 13, 2002  6:24
pm
Subject:  opticaldream.de update !!!


Hello all,

I have updated my Tangerine Dream Fan-Homepage: http://www.opticaldream.de

I add many items, also I updated my tradelist.

Regards
heiko - Mr. Optical
www.tribute-to-ashra.de
www.opticaldream.de

FREE ASHRA NEWSLETTER subcribe here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ashranewsletter
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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36639">
From: 

'Admin' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Sun Oct 13, 2002  7:24
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] OT message order


I don't think you have any control on this issue. it's a Yahoo thing.
happen before, will happen again. Bugs me as I will read the first thing
that pops up on my mail as time is short. Read a few later.. the answer is
there already.. moral... wait till you have the time to look at it all...
someday perhaps...

dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Joe Shoults' <joe@t...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 8:16 AM
Subject: RE: [tadream] OT message order


> sorry, there is no setting I can adjust to change any of this. this is a
> mail server issue at yahoo.
>
> But it is very weird for Paul's messages to skip himself. This is a
feature
> of some old style mailing lists, but not an option in yahoo.
>
> -joe
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Vertical [mailto:johnvertical@h...]
> > Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 2:20 PM
> > To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [tadream] OT message order
> >
> >
> > >MY message order comes through wrong too!!!
> > >I thought I had some kinda weird sort applied in outlook express!
> > >PAulus.d_uk
> > >
> > > > I`m getting messages in the wrong order throughout the day ??? is
> > >anybody
> > > > else having this .Sometimes I post a message and it never makes to
the
> > >lists
> > > > but the replies to my message do ?
> > > > Bloody computers !
> > > >
> > > > Paul
> >
> >
> > Me three! The occasional bloody long delays I'd understand, but this
> > mishmeshing sometimes makes following a thread really confusing.
> >
> > John Vertical
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
> > http://www.hotmail.com
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> >
> > Tangerine Tree info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/tree
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36640">
From: 

Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> 
Date:  Mon Oct 14, 2002  9:20
am
Subject:  OT: Paul Lawler


Hi,

sorry for that slightly OT mail. I happened to watch a
documentary on ancient Egypt on the BBC last week, and
noticed that the music was credited to a certain
Paul Lawler. Paul Lawler on that list: is that you?

armin

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<MESSAGE index="36641">
From: 

'Paul Lawler' <lawlermusic@b...> 
Date:  Mon Oct 14, 2002  10:52
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] OT: Paul Lawler


Hi

Yes it was me .Never really liked that series though .

Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Armin Theissen' <Armin.Theissen@s...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:20 AM
Subject: [tadream] OT: Paul Lawler


> Hi,
>
> sorry for that slightly OT mail. I happened to watch a
> documentary on ancient Egypt on the BBC last week, and
> noticed that the music was credited to a certain
> Paul Lawler. Paul Lawler on that list: is that you?
>
> armin
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Armin dot Theissen at sun dot com phone x19080
> SUN Microsystems Ireland
>
> 'To you I'm an atheist; to God, I'm the Loyal Opposition.'
> - Woody Allen
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
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> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
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> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36642">
From: 

'duncan mckee' <tangram@t...> 
Date:  Mon Oct 14, 2002  11:20
am
Subject:  concert dvds


hi all
i have finished encoding the concert footage onto dvd
details and cover samples can be found here
http://www.members.tripod.com/~duncanmckee/digitalvideo/dvt.htm
for those that missed the first post, these dvds are available in NTSC and PAL
versions and the cost is $6 each (to cover postage, price of DVD-Rs and cases)
or a trade for two blank DVD-R's per each concert.

anyone interested please email me

Thanks

Duncan McKee

tangram@t...
www.tadream.co.uk
www.tangerine-dream.co.uk

MSN Messenger dmckee20@h...

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<MESSAGE index="36643">
From: 

Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> 
Date:  Mon Oct 14, 2002  11:21
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] OT: Paul Lawler


ah, cool! we (me and my wife) just happened to see the last
5 minutes or so of it, until I jumped 'hey, this guy is from
the TD list...' ;-)

cheers

armin

Paul Lawler wrote:

> Hi
> 
> Yes it was me .Never really liked that series though .
> 
> Paul
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Armin Theissen' <Armin.Theissen@s...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:20 AM
> Subject: [tadream] OT: Paul Lawler
> 
> 
> 
>>Hi,
>>
>>sorry for that slightly OT mail. I happened to watch a
>>documentary on ancient Egypt on the BBC last week, and
>>noticed that the music was credited to a certain
>>Paul Lawler. Paul Lawler on that list: is that you?
>>
>>armin
>>
>>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>>Armin dot Theissen at sun dot com phone x19080
>>SUN Microsystems Ireland
>>
>>'To you I'm an atheist; to God, I'm the Loyal Opposition.'
>> - Woody Allen
>>
>>
>>
>>----------------------------------------------------_-
>>To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>>----------------------------------------------------_-
>>Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
>>http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>>
>>Tangerine Tree info at
>>http://www.tadream.net/tree
>>
>>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
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> 
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> http://www.tadream.net/tree 
> 
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> 
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> 


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<MESSAGE index="36644">
From: 

Falcon <falcon@r...> 
Date:  Mon Oct 14, 2002  12:45
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] OT: Paul Lawler


At 01:21 PM 10/14/2002, you wrote:
>ah, cool! we (me and my wife) just happened to see the last
>5 minutes or so of it, until I jumped 'hey, this guy is from
>the TD list...' ;-)

He is also the 'Arcane' guy, right ?

Ramon


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<MESSAGE index="36645">
From: 

Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> 
Date:  Mon Oct 14, 2002  12:51
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] OT: Paul Lawler


gosh... I think I need to explore our group in terms of
member profiles... or don't we have any?

armin

Falcon wrote:

> At 01:21 PM 10/14/2002, you wrote:
> 
>>ah, cool! we (me and my wife) just happened to see the last
>>5 minutes or so of it, until I jumped 'hey, this guy is from
>>the TD list...' ;-)
>>
> 
> He is also the 'Arcane' guy, right ?
> 
> Ramon
> 
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com 
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> 
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree 
> 
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 
> 
> 
> 


-- 

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<MESSAGE index="36646">
From: 

jerome <ssaalyersjj@y...> 
Date:  Mon Oct 14, 2002  1:04
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] OT: Paul Lawler


since this seems to be the paul lawler 15 minutes in the TD spotlight:

the new album from max van richter (ex-arcane dude) is absoultely hands down
(or up) one of the best emusic albums to come out in years, ho-boy... if you
don't know arcane yet, pick up alterstill from www.synthdirect.com and while
you are at it, treat yourself to the thrill of hearing great emusic again, the
way you used to feel with those first TD albums you bought, whatever they may
be, and pick up resurrection from max van richter... you won't be
disappointed...

time's up... back to DM3... :p

--- Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> wrote:
> 
> gosh... I think I need to explore our group in terms of
> member profiles... or don't we have any?

a sampling can be found on www.tadream.net under the musos link, though i'm not
sure the last time it was updated...

jerome


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From: 


Morgan Feldon <feldon@f...> 
Date:  Mon Oct 14, 2002  1:25
pm
Subject:  


>gosh... I think I need to explore our group in terms of
>member profiles... or don't we have any?
>
>armin

Member profiles are something we'd have on a forum. Yahoo doesn't support them.

-Morgan


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From: 

'Paul Lawler' <lawlermusic@b...> 
Date:  Mon Oct 14, 2002  2:42
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] OT: Paul Lawler


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Falcon' <falcon@r...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Paul Lawler


> At 01:21 PM 10/14/2002, you wrote:
> >ah, cool! we (me and my wife) just happened to see the last
> >5 minutes or so of it, until I jumped 'hey, this guy is from
> >the TD list...' ;-)
>
> He is also the 'Arcane' guy, right ?
>
> Ramon

Yes I am both 'Arcane' and 'Max van richter' as well as myself now and again
;)

Paul


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<MESSAGE index="36649">
From: 

Falcon <falcon@r...> 
Date:  Mon Oct 14, 2002  3:51
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] OT: Paul Lawler


At 04:42 PM 10/14/2002, you wrote:
>Yes I am both 'Arcane' and 'Max van richter' as well as myself now and again
>;)

Oh, i see, a split personality. Maybe you're also Edgar Froese. . . you 
never know ;-))))

Ramon


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<MESSAGE index="36650">
From: 

'Paul Lawler' <lawlermusic@b...> 
Date:  Mon Oct 14, 2002  4:03
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] OT: Paul Lawler


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Falcon' <falcon@r...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Paul Lawler


> At 04:42 PM 10/14/2002, you wrote:
> >Yes I am both 'Arcane' and 'Max van richter' as well as myself now and
again
> >;)
>
> Oh, i see, a split personality. Maybe you're also Edgar Froese. . . you
> never know ;-))))
>
> Ramon

ahem ! ;)


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<MESSAGE index="36651">
From: 

Kees Aerts / Groove Unlimited <kees@g...> 
Date:  Mon Oct 14, 2002  4:07
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] OT: Paul Lawler


At 17:03 14-10-02 +0100, you wrote:

>----- Original Message -----
>From: 'Falcon' <falcon@r...>
>To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:51 PM
>Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Paul Lawler
>
>
> > At 04:42 PM 10/14/2002, you wrote:
> > >Yes I am both 'Arcane' and 'Max van richter' as well as myself now and
>again
> > >;)
> >
> > Oh, i see, a split personality. Maybe you're also Edgar Froese. . . you
> > never know ;-))))
> >
> > Ramon
>
>ahem ! ;)

yes, it's him.


Best regards / Vriendelijke groeten,

Kees

GROOVE Unlimited (Specializing in Electronic Music)
Kees Aerts
PO Box 2171
8203 AD Lelystad
the Netherlands
Tel: +31 (0) 320 219496 ; Fax: +31 (0) 320 218910
http://www.groove.nl


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<MESSAGE index="36652">
From: 

'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Mon Oct 14, 2002  4:08
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] OT: Paul Lawler


why only 15 minutes...?

He has excellent material. I enjoyed his music.

dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'jerome' <ssaalyersjj@y...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 6:04 AM
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Paul Lawler


> since this seems to be the paul lawler 15 minutes in the TD spotlight:
>
> the new album from max van richter (ex-arcane dude) is absoultely hands
down
> (or up) one of the best emusic albums to come out in years, ho-boy... if
you
> don't know arcane yet, pick up alterstill from www.synthdirect.com and
while
> you are at it, treat yourself to the thrill of hearing great emusic again,
the
> way you used to feel with those first TD albums you bought, whatever they
may
> be, and pick up resurrection from max van richter... you won't be
> disappointed...
>
> time's up... back to DM3... :p
>
> --- Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> wrote:
> >
> > gosh... I think I need to explore our group in terms of
> > member profiles... or don't we have any?
>
> a sampling can be found on www.tadream.net under the musos link, though
i'm not
> sure the last time it was updated...
>
> jerome
>
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do you Yahoo!?
> Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More
> http://faith.yahoo.com
>
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> ----------------------------------------------------_-
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>
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> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


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<MESSAGE index="36653">
From: 

'PERGAMON' <pergamon@g...> 
Date:  Mon Oct 14, 2002  4:14
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] OT: Paul Lawler


Hey.....who is this Paul Lawler, everyone is talking about.........

.....hehe....=O)

	
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<MESSAGE index="36654">
From: 

'PERGAMON' <pergamon@g...> 
Date:  Mon Oct 14, 2002  4:16
pm
Subject:  Yannick Edom


Hi Yannick

Could you please send me your adress, so that I can mail the tracks for
DT3............I seem to have lost the adress.....sorry.......

Thanks
Jan

	
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<MESSAGE index="36655">
From: 

'Bill Fox' <billfox@f...> 
Date:  Mon Oct 14, 2002  5:47
pm
Subject:  EMUSIC Playlist #290


[ Best viewed using a fixed spacing font. ]

EMUSIC is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday
at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton,
PA and Phillipsburg, NJ.

Show #290 October 10, 2002.


RECAP:
On this show, I continued the month-long focus on ambient guitarist Jeff
Pearce, who will play at The Gathering on the 19th. The Featured CD at
midnight was 'Vestiges' on the Jeff Pearce Music label.

The Vinyl Starter was from the LP 'TONTO's Expanding Head Band' by Robert
Margouleff and Malcolm Cecil on the Atlantic label.


PLAYLIST:

ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label)
======================= ======================== ==============================
11:04 pm
Robert Margouleff and Cybernaut TONTO's Expanding Head Band
Malcolm Cecil (Atlantic)
VA [Steve Roach] 1992 Sequences No. 27 (Sequences)
Darshan Ambient The Night Watchman Selected Works Vol 3 (mp3.com)
Cytrus Resonance Damage (mp3.com)
Cytrus Dreamscene Damage (mp3.com)
Cyber Zen Sound Engine Called from Light Auslander (N-Light-N)
VA [Paul Ellis] Slowly Boating Wings Sequences No. 27 (Sequences)
Stars of the Lid Atomium part one Avec Laudenum (Kranky)
Stars of the Lid Atomium part two Avec Laudenum (Kranky)

12:00 am
Jeff Pearce Lost Summer Vestiges (Jeff Pearce Music)
Jeff Pearce The Outer Circle Vestiges (Jeff Pearce Music)
Jeff Pearce With the Morning Light Vestiges (Jeff Pearce Music)
Jeff Pearce North Refugee Vestiges (Jeff Pearce Music)
Jeff Pearce Vestiges Vestiges (Jeff Pearce Music)
Jeff Pearce North Nightfall Vestiges (Jeff Pearce Music)

1:00 am

* = exerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)


NEXT SHOW:
On the next EMUSIC, I'll continue the month-long focus on Jeff Pearce who uses
the guitar to create synth-like soundscapes. The Featured CD at Midnight will
be 'To the Shores of Heaven' on the Hypnos label.

The vinyl show starter again will be from the LP 'TONTO's Expanding Head Band'
by Robert Marouleff and Malcolm Cecil on the Atlantic label.

I will play the music of artists who will be performing at the next Gathering,
which will feature Jeff Pearce with Mike Griffin and Dave Fulton. Plus, as a
membership drive special, EMUSIC will go all night long, featuring the 10 CD
box set Contemporary Works Volume 1 by Klaus Schulze.

Bill
===============================================================================
Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at
11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and
Phillipsburg. http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic
Host of the AM/FM Show on WMUH Allentown 91.7 FM every other Saturday at 6 am.
Host of Afterglow on WMUH every Thursday morning from 8:00 to 9:30.
http://soundscapes.us/~bill/amfm http://soundscapes.us/~bill/afterglow
Radio Station Web Sites: http://wdiy.org http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh
Personal site: http://soundscapes.us/~bill
To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, go to
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emusic-wdiy and click on [Join This Group!]
SOUNDSCAPES Concert Series: http://soundscapes.us


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<MESSAGE index="36656">
From: 

'tdcrjeff' <jeff.lester@t...> 
Date:  Mon Oct 14, 2002  10:01
pm
Subject:  


--- In tadream@y..., Morgan Feldon <feldon@f...> wrote:
> 
> >gosh... I think I need to explore our group in terms of
> >member profiles... or don't we have any?
> >
> >armin
> 
> Member profiles are something we'd have on a forum. Yahoo doesn't 
support them.
> 
> -Morgan

'Yahoo ID' I guess is the correct terminology, rather than 'username' 
(from my preceding post).

-Jeff Lester


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36657">
From: 

'tdcrjeff' <jeff.lester@t...> 
Date:  Mon Oct 14, 2002  9:59
pm
Subject:  


--- In tadream@y..., Morgan Feldon <feldon@f...> wrote:
> 
> >gosh... I think I need to explore our group in terms of
> >member profiles... or don't we have any?
> >
> >armin
> 
> Member profiles are something we'd have on a forum. Yahoo doesn't 
support them.
> 
> -Morgan

Sure it does. If you're on the Yahoo Groups webpage and you click on 
someone's username (rather than their name), it comes up with a 
profile page. Very few (if any) people have anything filled out.

-Jeff Lester


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36658">
From: 

kostas karlis <k_koulos@p...> 
Date:  Mon Oct 14, 2002  11:41
am
Subject:  TT2 + [interview]


ok sorry for this but i have changed pc and i ve kind of lost my old e-mails

so the one out there being my branch in TT2 contact me cause i have not receive
the disks yet.

sorry once again 
adioz

kostas from greece 

[p.s. i ;ve found a one page interview with Froese in a greek newspaper back in
22 june 1997. i don't know if its real or if the translation is acurate from
what edgar says but i 'll post it on this list later this week if it cares
anyone. [ i 'll try to make a scan too but no promises ] 


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="36659">
From: 
Synthhtnys@a... 
Date:  Mon Oct 14, 2002  11:41
pm
Subject:  Departure from the Northern Wasteland


Steve Roach is now offering one of the absolute gems of classic Berlin School
at his website: Michael Hoenig - Departure from the Northern Wasteland
for only $12 US ! www.steveroach.com
I highly recommend this to all fans of the sequencer school who may have 
missed it.... Review below:
Peace
Poly

Departure From the Northern Wasteland
<A HREF='http://steveroach.com/Music/discography.php?artistID=65&sort='>Michael
Hoenig</A> <A
HREF='http://steveroach.com/Music/discography.php?query=year&value=1978&sort='>1\
978</A>: 

An historic look back at a pinnacle release for the 70's German Electronic 
Music scene that still holds the magic. Michael Hoenig worked briefly with 
Tangerine Dream and Klaus Schulze, but this monumental solo recording 
released in 1978 is one of the true electronic classics to emerge from the 
so-called Berlin School of that time. This release presents a twist on the 
sequencer-dominated sound of that time. Short, melodic analog sequencer 
patterns are woven into a polyrythmic array that shift and phase constantly 
creating a meditative study of tonal and rhythmic motion. Warm harmonic 
analog synth and guitar textures and melodies support the movement of the 
pieces creating a pastoral undertone. Hoeing's influences of Philip Glass, 
Terry Riley and especially Steve Reich are part of what takes the era's 
standard approach to sequencer-based music into a place that is still 
unmatched in its minimal elegance. As vital-sounding today as it was upon its 
release, this one is among Steve's top all-time favorite 'roots' CD's. The 
21-minute title track is simply epic. 


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<MESSAGE index="36660">
From: 

'goozergrafx' <goozer@a...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 15, 2002  12:14
am
Subject:  Re: Departure from the Northern Wasteland


--- In tadream@y..., Synthhtnys@a... wrote:
*snip* 
> An historic look back at a pinnacle release for the 70's German 
> Electronic Music scene that still holds the magic. Michael Hoenig 
> worked briefly with Tangerine Dream and Klaus Schulze, but this 
> monumental solo recording released in 1978 is one of the true 
> electronic classics to emerge from the so-called Berlin School of 
> that time. This release presents a twist on the sequencer-dominated 
> sound of that time. 

Yeah, the twist was he used some of the themes first explored during
the R.A.H. concert from April '75. Those of you with any of the myriad
boots of this show will be able to confirm this. That said, it *is* a
very good album, just not as 'groundbreaking' or 'unique' as some like
to say.

Cheers,
goozer


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<MESSAGE index="36661">
From: 
Synthhtnys@a... 
Date:  Tue Oct 15, 2002  12:43
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Departure from the Northern Wasteland


In a message dated 10/14/2002 5:15:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
goozer@a... writes:


> Yeah, the twist was he used some of the themes first explored during
> the R.A.H. concert from April '75. Those of you with any of the myriad
> boots of this show will be able to confirm this. That said, it *is* a
> very good album, just not as 'groundbreaking' or 'unique' as some like
> to say.
> 
> Cheers,
> goozer
> 

*I'm sure he developed the themes for a while as there is such a solid 
compositional feel to it... I have a boot from '77 where it is very close 
indeed... I'm not sure that this approach is necessarily a liability. It may 
seem that way in a genre where improvisation is the sacred cow... but there's 
something to be said for development & composition too.. and I think it shows 
here as this album withstands the tests of time and still sounds vital. As 
for 'Groundbreaking' well no, but that's not the single 
criteria for what is good in music. It IS groundbreaking in the sense that he 
was furthering the vocabulary by emphasizing polyrhythms where most Berlin 
School stayed strictly within 4/4 time.

Poly


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From: 

'tangram80' <coldwatercanyon@s...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 15, 2002  2:37
am
Subject:  test - please ignore


test


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<MESSAGE index="36663">
From: 

'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 15, 2002  7:37
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Departure from the Northern Wasteland


> > Yeah, the twist was he used some of the themes first explored during
> > the R.A.H. concert from April '75. Those of you with any of the myriad
> > boots of this show will be able to confirm this. That said, it *is* a
> > very good album, just not as 'groundbreaking' or 'unique' as some like
> > to say.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > goozer
> >
>
>*I'm sure he developed the themes for a while as there is such a solid
>compositional feel to it... I have a boot from '77 where it is very close
>indeed...


Yes, the title track resembles RAH a great deal, but I don't hear any direct 
similarities.
Are you referring to a TD boot or a Hoenig boot, Poly?


>As
>for 'Groundbreaking' well no, but that's not the single
>criteria for what is good in music


I agree. The first successful attempt doesn't have to be the best. IMHO the 
title track from Departure easily tops RAH, which is understandable since 
it's hard to expect live improvisations to be of same quality as studio 
material...
That said, I think that this track tops even Rubycon Part 2, probably even 
Part 1! It's just that great. Directly into my brainwaves... This would be 
one defintie choice if I some day had to introduce someone to the Berlin 
School style

The rest of the album is not _that_ great though. Hanging Garden Transfer 
gets boring soon and Voices Of Where is not the best experimentalistic track 
I've heard. Sun and Moon is OK but short.

John Vertical

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From: 

'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 15, 2002  7:47
am
Subject:  Oh, those bells...


I juts go weak at knees whenever I hear some TD piece which employs some 
bell theme... just the last night I played Livemiles Part 2 as a lullaby, 
and those glittering voices at the end 3rd are just perfect shiverers...

Same with all the other bell/glitter thingys I know. These save Calymba Caly 
or Cool at Heart from being boring and turn these into good tracks; the 
midsection TT1 part 1 and the first section of Tangram Set 1 are then on the 
same ballpark of grandness as the aforementioned Livemiles bit... <sigh> :)

John Vertical

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From: 

quarlie@a... 
Date:  Tue Oct 15, 2002  8:03
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Oh, those bells...


'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> wrote:

>I juts go weak at knees whenever I hear some TD piece which employs some 
>bell theme... just the last night I played Livemiles Part 2 as a lullaby, 
>and those glittering voices at the end 3rd are just perfect shiverers...
>
>Same with all the other bell/glitter thingys I know. These save Calymba Caly 
>or Cool at Heart from being boring and turn these into good tracks; the 
>midsection TT1 part 1 and the first section of Tangram Set 1 are then on the 
>same ballpark of grandness as the aforementioned Livemiles bit... <sigh> :)

How about the bells in the beginning of Rubycon part 1?

--Daniel
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<MESSAGE index="36666">
From: 

'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 15, 2002  9:04
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Oh, those bells...


>How about the bells in the beginning of Rubycon part 1?
>
>--Daniel


The feeling is more about _bright_ bell sounds, not dark ones.

Oh, and I forgot to mention the bells in Valley of the Sun!

John Vertical

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<MESSAGE index="36667">
From: 

'Marcel Engels' <mengels@w...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 15, 2002  10:23
am
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Re: Departure from the Northern Wasteland


> From: John Vertical [mailto:johnvertical@h...] 
> 
> The rest of the album is not _that_ great though. Hanging 
> Garden Transfer 
> gets boring soon and Voices Of Where is not the best 
> experimentalistic track 
> I've heard. Sun and Moon is OK but short.

Can you imagine that I only heard this album about 1 or
2 years ago.
It's a good album but imo not THE berlin school album.
Personally I like the 2nd track 'Hanging Garden Transfer'
best. It reminds me a bit of Peter Baumanns work which
I find just as good as Departure and even in some parts
better. In fact I personally think Peter contributed
big time in the 70s TD.

Marcel
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<MESSAGE index="36668">
From: 
Synthhtnys@a... 
Date:  Tue Oct 15, 2002  10:43
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Departure from the Northern Wasteland


In a message dated 10/15/02 3:23:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
mengels@w... writes:

<< Can you imagine that I only heard this album about 1 or
2 years ago.
It's a good album but imo not THE berlin school album.

* ? Is there such a thing ? I don't think there is one single album that 
could be called THE Berlin School album, however I think it obvious that 
Departure is ONE OF the 
great Berlin School albums.

Personally I like the 2nd track 'Hanging Garden Transfer'
best. It reminds me a bit of Peter Baumanns work which
I find just as good as Departure and even in some parts
better. In fact I personally think Peter contributed
big time in the 70s TD.

*Undoubtedly.

Poly

	
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From: 

'braddito' <toby.braddick@u...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 15, 2002  11:09
am
Subject:  Re: Departure from the Northern Wasteland


Try the TD Australia 75 shows with Hoenig - there are definite 
similarities on sounds in certain places, particularly Adelaide if I 
remember correctly.

Toby

> Yes, the title track resembles RAH a great deal, but I don't hear 
any direct 
> similarities.
> Are you referring to a TD boot or a Hoenig boot, Poly?


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<MESSAGE index="36670">
From: 
Synthhtnys@a... 
Date:  Tue Oct 15, 2002  12:10
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Departure from the Northern Wasteland


In a message dated 10/15/02 4:10:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
toby.braddick@u... writes:

<< > Are you referring to a TD boot or a Hoenig boot, Poly?
>>

*I was referring to the Hoenig boot 'RIAS '77' Where he is performing 
Departure live
Poly

	
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<MESSAGE index="36671">
From: 

'tei waz' <teiwazbarana@h...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 15, 2002  4:05
pm
Subject:  Re: Departure from the Northern Wasteland


>Departure from the Northern Wasteland


this thing get remastered, yet?

--t


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<MESSAGE index="36672">
From: 

'fozziebear' <fozziebear.beehive@b...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 15, 2002  5:40
pm
Subject:  Departure


Poly said 'An historic look back at a pinnacle release for the 70's German
Electronic Music scene that still holds the magic. Michael Hoenig worked
briefly with Tangerine Dream and Klaus Schulze'

May be I was asleep in class or something.... remind me what was the work with
Klaus Schulze?

I bought Departure many years ago. This is a good excuse to play it again. I
like the Balloon cover. May be we could persuade Mr Hoenig to play it live at
the Balloon festval they hold here each August, especially at the Balloon glow
at night when balloons are lit up in synchronisation with live music and
fireworks. Jarre music received that treatment in recent years.

David


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<MESSAGE index="36673">
From: 

David Butler <daventura98@y...> 
Date:  Tue Oct 15, 2002  7:10
pm
Subject:  Lawler and friends


I wonder if he's also Jerry Lawler, the wrestler? OK,
lots of catching up to do. Congratulations to
Marcel...I have only one question...Will Luka live on
the second floor? Please someone get it. Alright, so
I'm at my local little thrift store on Friday and pick
up an old Patrick O'Hearn cassete that I didn't have.
So I'm reading the liner notes...produced by Peter
Baumann, recorded by O'Hearn and Baumann, on the
Private Label...hmmm...do you think? Between Two
Worlds is the title, from '87. I can't recommend it
though. Maybe after I listen to it 7 or 8 hundred more
times....David

NP...Asia...Asia (if only Edgar could play guitar like
Steve Howe...man o man)

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<MESSAGE index="36674">
From: 
Synthhtnys@a... 
Date:  Wed Oct 16, 2002  12:15
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Departure


In a message dated 10/15/2002 10:46:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
fozziebear.beehive@b... writes:


> Poly said 'An historic look back at a pinnacle release for the 70's German 
> Electronic Music scene that still holds the magic. Michael Hoenig worked 
> briefly with Tangerine Dream and Klaus Schulze'


*Actually that was Steve's review... BUT I am aware of a very brief tour they 
did together... sometime mid '70's... don't have the date w/me though....
Poly


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<MESSAGE index="36675">
From: 

'Bill Fox' <billfox@f...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 16, 2002  3:58
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Off Topic-'Sound Explorer'


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Wade Gordon' <mindvoyager1@y...>
Subject: Re: [tadream] Off Topic-'Sound Explorer'
> Right now the program is available in Boston, NYC,
> Baltimore, Philly.... It is on rock stations 7-10
> Eastern.

Hi Wade,

I might be able to receive the Philly station since I can get a few this far
north... if you could tell me the call letters and frequency.

Thank,

Bill


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<MESSAGE index="36676">
From: 

'Bill Fox' <billfox@f...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 16, 2002  4:09
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Bill Fox's setlists


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Morgan Feldon' <feldon@f...>
Subject: [tadream] Bill Fox's setlists
> >*Bill Fox is a respected DJ from Allentown who airs a show of EM.
> >There are many who come here asking who other artists are currently
> >working in this style.. Bill's lists are a resource for these people to find
> >out.
> >Poly

Thanks, Paul. I missed the complaint. (I delete a lot of stuff very quickly
sometimes - especially when I'm so behind with reading mail!)

> I have to agree with the sentiment that we are getting these weekly
> postings for something we can't even listen to.

Oh no, Morgan, my old Okefenokee roommate!

> If there was a webcast, it would be different, but I get a copy of these
> playlists what seems like 4 times a week between the tadream and
> tangerinedream lists.

It only seems that way. There is only one per show, although is one is late and
the next one is on time, there could be as little as one day between consecutive
playlists.

> If WDIY had a $700 computer with a sound card and a fast internet
> connection, they could get a webcast going in 15 minutes with Shoutcast or
> OGG Streaming.

WDIY is a poor, public supported community radio station. They need money and
expertise to do anything. By the way, the fall membership drive starts on
Thursday. You can make a secure on-line pledge at http://wdiy.org at any time.

> Bill, is it the internet connection that's holding up the (web)show?

WDIY has been working on this for well over a year. An exciting announcement is
imminent... ;-)

Cheers,

Bill
===============================================================================
Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at
11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and
Phillipsburg. http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic
Host of the AM/FM Show on WMUH Allentown 91.7 FM every other Saturday at 6 am.
Host of Afterglow on WMUH every Thursday morning from 8:00 to 9:30.
http://soundscapes.us/~bill/amfm http://soundscapes.us/~bill/afterglow
Radio Station Web Sites: http://wdiy.org http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh
Personal site: http://soundscapes.us/~bill
To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, go to
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emusic-wdiy and click on [Join This Group!]
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From: 

'Bill Fox' <billfox@f...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 16, 2002  4:25
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Bill Fox's Set Lists


Dear Deb,

You're my new best friend!!!! (Poly's right there with you, too!) You
obviously understand why I post playlists. Anything that I can do to expose EM
artists to EM listeners is a good thing, to my way of thinking. That's also why
I have two radio shows for presenting EM and produce the Soundscapes Concert
Series. Playlists also encourage artists to create music and to come out of the
bedroom studio. Many new artists tell me that they never knew that there were
any outlets for their type of music. Then I point them to tadream, beyond_em,
Star's End, Jim Brenholts, etc.

Love,

Bill

P.S. I'm constantly surprised by how many people don't get it. I am also
mystified by the people who receive my playlists via a maillist (yahoogroup or
other) who ask me to take them off of distribution. Like they can't see the
[listname] in the Subject: line.

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Deb H-J' <dhj4@y...>
> Personally, I like getting Bill's lists because it
> gives me a good idea of what's out there, and as a
> collector of em music, its a good exposure to artists
> I'd not heard of before (like Rudy Adrian). No...I
> can't get the show...but its not that difficult to
> download an mp3 or two featuring an artist he is
> giving exposure to.
> He does feature TD, more often than not, and many of
> the artists he feature are their 'inspirees.'
> Bill does look a bit like Gary Sinise, the actor who
> played in the tv dramatization of 'The Stand.' He also
> plays a mean guitar, as we heard on the new Oke
> preview.


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<MESSAGE index="36678">
From: 

'Bill Fox' <billfox@f...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 16, 2002  4:33
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Bill Fox's Set Lists


----- Original Message -----
From: <Synthhtnys@a...>

> In a message dated 10/10/2002 2:14:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> admin@k... writes:
> > I just wish we could enjoy it a bit. Reading is one thing, hearing is
> > another.
> > dale
>
> *Yeah, it would be nice if it could be streamed... There are however a couple
> of other programs doing just that you might want to check out.
> www.starsend.org
> www.echoes.org
> Poly

Both great choices. Plus there is WMUH which hosts Beyond the Barriers each
Saturday from 2 am to 6 am. It is followed by The AM/FM Show from 6 am to 8 am.
When I host the AM/FM Show, I feature EM in the first part of the show. There
are other shows on WMUH that feature EM. Try Sunday at 4 or 6 or 8 pm. (I'm
not sure of the exact times.) Please visit my radio show web sites for details
about my various programs.

Cheers,

Bill
===============================================================================
Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at
11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and
Phillipsburg. http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic
Host of the AM/FM Show on WMUH Allentown 91.7 FM every other Saturday at 6 am.
Host of Afterglow on WMUH every Thursday morning from 8:00 to 9:30.
http://soundscapes.us/~bill/amfm http://soundscapes.us/~bill/afterglow
Radio Station Web Sites: http://wdiy.org http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh
Personal site: http://soundscapes.us/~bill
To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, go to
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emusic-wdiy and click on [Join This Group!]
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From: 

'Bill Fox' <billfox@f...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 16, 2002  4:40
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Bill Fox's Set Lists


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Adele Outland' <outlanda60@h...>
> I'm such a TD freak that I listen to almost nothing else. I have to be
> forced to try anyone new. Bill has forced me to do that because of winning a
> couple of albums at Oke that he contributed to the game box. I now find that
> I really like Nightcrawlers and Orbital Decay. These are both albums that he
> recorded from live interviews on his show I believe. Anyway, his aim is
> furthering all forms of electronic music to keep the genre alive. His set
> lists are there to stimulate that interest hopefully. 8-Dell
> All IMO of course.
> NP: Fassbinder ( I stray only so far)
> And, yeah, Bill's yellow guitar is one of my favorite memories.

Hi Dell,

You can join Deb and Paul in the group hug I'm saving for y'all !! Orbital
Decay played on EMUSIC and at Soundscapes. Which event is documented by the CD
you have? The Nightcrawlers two CD set was released by the Manikin label out of
Germany. I don't recall putting that one in the grab bag. Did I? Or are you
thinking of The Ministry of Inside Things? They, too, did EMUSIC twice and
Soundscapes once.

Cheers,

Bill


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From: 

'Bill Fox' <billfox@f...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 16, 2002  4:46
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Bill Fox's Set Lists


----- Original Message -----
From: <quarlie@a...>
> My only objection to Bill posting his playlists is that he crossposts them all
to tangerinedream. Is that necessary? Honestly, how many people are on
tangerinedream who aren't on tadream?
> --Daniel

If there is only one person on tangerinedream who isn't already a member here on
tadream, then I feel it's worth it to post playlists on both lists. If that
last person would join tadream, then tangerinedream could be shut down and I
wouldn't have to post there anymore. ;-)

Cheers,

Bill


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From: 

quarlie@a... 
Date:  Wed Oct 16, 2002  6:05
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Bill Fox's Set Lists


'Bill Fox' <billfox@f...> wrote:

>If there is only one person on tangerinedream who isn't already a member here
on
>tadream, then I feel it's worth it to post playlists on both lists.  If that
>last person would join tadream, then tangerinedream could be shut down and I
>wouldn't have to post there anymore.  ;-)

I thought the purpose of tangerinedream was to have a parallel list for topics
not permitted on tadream. Although considering the tree projects that have
taken place lately on tadream, maybe tangerinedream has outlived its purpose?
What's the official stance these days?

--Daniel
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<MESSAGE index="36682">
From: 

Marko Marin <rubyconist@y...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 16, 2002  9:02
am
Subject:  [tadream] Transsiberia


Here's my short review of all the tracks. It seems
that the drums are trying to simulate the
feeling/sound when you're travelling in a train
(chunk... chunk... chunk...) and the overall sound of
the music is very cold. I suppose that's the idea.
After all this is a documentary about Russian
railways...

Yaroslaw Station (04:52)
Wonderful!! Simple, yes, but full of energy. 9/10

Smoky Karlow (09:25)
Slower, but it has some nice qualities. I have to
admit that I was a bit disappointed when I first heard
this track. Nine minutes is much too long. 6/10

Siberian Nights (04:01)
This is better, only because it's shorter. This is
very jarring track mostly because the rythm is almost
the same quality as Smoky Karlow... 7/10

Jenissei River (04:44)
Very smooth and relaxing track. Listen this very
carefully with a tought, as it might easily flow from
the beginning to the end without much notice and then
the word you're looking for is 'bland.' Of course it's
not that bad in reality. It has some nice melodies,
but those synth pads could be better... 8/10

Baikal Sunset (04:42)
Another rythmic track. Very repetive. 6/10

Samowar Juri (04:40)
Very nice beginning. The melodies are the main thing
and the flowing rythm is kept in the background for a
change! 9/10

Ulan-Ude (04:35)
A replicant from Jenissei River, but something has
gone wrong. It has almost nothing to captivate my
attention. Or perhaps there is. Is there? 6/10

Chingan Nights (06:55)
Better. Much. But not as thrilling as Jenissei River.
7/10

Russian Soul (04:13)
Okay, this could be one of the greatest mellotron
tracks ever or otherwise a great track, but that
flanging choir just isn't my thing. It sound a little
bit irritating. 7/10

The Golden Horn (05:18)
Simple beat starts and it never changes. 5/10

My overall rating: 7/10

Regards,
Marko Marin

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From: 

Heiko Heerssen <heiko.heerssen@h...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 16, 2002  9:20
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Transsiberia


> Here's my short review of all the tracks. It seems
> that the drums are trying to simulate the
> feeling/sound when you're travelling in a train
> (chunk... chunk... chunk...) and the overall sound of
> the music is very cold. I suppose that's the idea.
> After all this is a documentary about Russian
> railways...

For me it was a CD which slowly growed on me. When I heard 'Transsiberia'
the first time I was a bit disappointed, it sounded all the same to me and I
couldn't remember a single track. But the more I listened to it I liked it.
But still I think that some CDs from that era are a tad better, especially
'Dream mixes 2', or 'Mars Polaris'.

Heiko


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<MESSAGE index="36684">
From: 

Heiko Heerssen <heiko.heerssen@h...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 16, 2002  12:00
pm
Subject:  Tangerine leaves


Hello Tadreamers,
I would like to announce an idea which may be of interest to those TD
afficionados who can't get enough of unreleased TD concerts:

another tree (oh no, not again ;-) called 'Tangerine leaves'

....that deals with releasing low generation audience recordings which
will not get included in the 'Tangerine Tree' series for various
reasons, like for example concerts from the 70s which have a more or
less mediocre sound quality even though we have a master tape or a copy
thereof (btw, 'mediocre' means that the recording is still listenable,
and please keep in mind that every TD concert up to 1978 was totally
improvised), or master tape recordings from concert tours of the 80s and
90s where it's enough to use just the two best sources for the
'Tangerine Tree' series (because each gig within a concert tour had more
or less the same music with just very little improvisation, and for 'TT'
the most important factors are the variety of concerts and the sound
quality) But I still would regard these concerts as interesting,
especially those from the early 80s where there still was room for
improvisation (especially from Johannes Schmoelling)

Of course all these recordings would get that special 'tree
remastering' which makes them stand above the rest, and this would also
be a good opportunity to create some more of the great artwork covers.
Here are a few concerts which could be a part of 'Tangerine leaves':

-04 October 1975 Coventry Cathedral 2nd gen. tape
-14 October 1975 Aylesbury Friars Vale Hall 2nd gen. tape
-19 October 1975 Manchester Hardrock 2nd gen. tape
-29 October 1976 Mainz Elzerhof 2nd gen. tape
-09 November 1976 Portsmouth Guild Hall 1st gen.
-14 November 1976 Croydon Fairfield Hall 1st gen.
-25 February 1978 Düsseldorf Philipshalle
-17 March 1978 Brussels Cirque Royal 2nd gen.
-01 November 1980 Dublin National Stadium low gen.
-02 November 1980 Newcastle City Hall 1st gen.
-26 January 1981 Berlin ICC low gen.
-20 October 1981 London hammersmith Odeon 1st gen.
-06 November 1982 London Dominion 3rd gen. (best source)
-19 March 1986 Liverpool Royal Court 2nd gen.
-29 June 1986 Washington Warner 4th gen.
plus some more concerts from the 1988,1990,1992, and 1997 tours.

Comments please (off-list would also be ok ;-)

regards
Heiko


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<MESSAGE index="36685">
From: 

'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 16, 2002  1:25
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Tangerine leaves


>another tree (oh no, not again ;-) called 'Tangerine leaves'
>
>....that deals with releasing low generation audience recordings which
>will not get included in the 'Tangerine Tree' series for various
>reasons, like for example concerts from the 70s which have a more or
>less mediocre sound quality even though we have a master tape or a copy


Sounds generally interesting, but how can you know that there will not be a 
better versions? Most of those seem to be some 2nd-4th generation so I 
suppose that the master could still be a little better?


>or master tape recordings from concert tours of the 80s and
>90s where it's enough to use just the two best sources for the
>'Tangerine Tree' series


Hmm. I guess this is a 'completionist' choice; if I already have the best 
possible version of eg. Thermal Inversion I'm not that keen on getting 
various only slightly different versions.

---

I have a general feeling that this would sort of overlap the Tangerine 
Tree...
1) I think that in the case of the latter concerts, a simple collection CD 
with those better alternative versions than what's released (officially or 
earlier on TT) or odd encores (one-off under one tour, etc) would be enough. 
Guess that there isn't that many persons who would *really* want every 
different version of, say, the 88 tour?

2) It sounds like that the coordinators, remasterers & illustrators would be 
the same people who are running TT, so time is a problem. If TT3 isn't 
going to be ready for some more months, where would you get time for this 
project?

3) What's wrong anyway with sticking with the TT and putting these 
'2nd-class' concerts at some latter bunches? People want the better concerts 
first of course. If TT's are already going out ASAP, then treeing meeker 
material would slow down the treeing of better material.

John Vertical

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<MESSAGE index="36686">
From: 

Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 16, 2002  1:27
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Off Topic-'Sound Explorer'


Every week day a differnt commerical radio station
seems to grab my feed. Whether this is due to someone
industrious board operation or youthful rebelllion or
computer error is beyond me. It could just simply
people tired of what they are hearing on the radio and
have good taste. I just know that different radio
stations run it and people e-mail me. I do have radio
stations signed up. And more every day. Staty tuned.
The program is kicking butt and taking names.--- Bill
Fox <billfox@f...> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Wade Gordon' <mindvoyager1@y...>
> Subject: Re: [tadream] Off Topic-'Sound Explorer'
> > Right now the program is available in Boston, NYC,
> > Baltimore, Philly.... It is on rock stations 7-10
> > Eastern.
> 
> Hi Wade,
> 
> I might be able to receive the Philly station since
> I can get a few this far
> north... if you could tell me the call letters and
> frequency.
> 
> Thank,
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
>
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<MESSAGE index="36687">
From: 

'Glenn Folkvord - Hyperion Media' <glenn@f...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 16, 2002  1:44
pm
Subject:  TD on the radio


Hey,

In my nonstop efforts to promote electronic music, I have started a new EM
radio programme, Electronic Shadows, which I am hosting in Eastern Norway on
Favorit FM on Saturdays. I just finished editing the next show, and as you
can see, Tangerine Dream has been featured already even though this is only
the second program, and will of course be a regular artist in the programme
in the future.

I thought, even though for now the programme cant be heard outside Norway,
if anyone wants to be kept informed about the playlists they can join the ES
mailing list by sending a blank email to:

electronicshadows-news-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

If nothing else, reading the playlists could inspire you to check out
artists in similar style to the artist(s) you already like. Electronic
Shadows is a radio programme for 'space-electronica' (or classic EM, as some
calls it) and related styles.

Playlist 19 October 2002

Enigma: Push the limits
Space: The universe overside (95 remix)
Jean Michel Jarre: Oxygene 7
Vangelis: Metallic Rain
Kraftwerk: The Man Machine
Tangerine Dream: Song of the whale part 1
Stone Age: Yesterday's Child
Frank van Bogaert: Churches
Kitaro: Clouds in the sky
Lambert: Light sky

Playlist 12 October 2002 (premiere show)

Jean Michel Jarre: Oxygene 4 (2002 version from AERO)
Rikard Latvala: Universe part 1
Jan Hammer: Crocket's theme
Steve Roach / Vir Unis: Neurotronic
Craig Padilla: Vast Emotions
Victor Cerullo: Castalia
Arcane: Dystopian fictions
Kraftwerk: The Robots

Even with the technical limitations the radio station has right now, I hope
to find a solution to put the programme online later.

Glenn

http://www.jarretribute.com


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<MESSAGE index="36688">
From: 

'Admin' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 16, 2002  2:29
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Bill Fox's Set Lists


I hang only to this list. I considered joining the other but I did not see
any topics that I have not seen here, on or off list.

I like the idea of diversity, so if dropping the other list hurts this, no I
don't think it has out lived it's use yet.

I would like to see a list devoted to equipment heads along with a
discussion of the techniques to use the stuff to perform TD and beyond.

dale


----- Original Message -----
From: <quarlie@a...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 11:05 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Bill Fox's Set Lists


> 'Bill Fox' <billfox@f...> wrote:
>
> >If there is only one person on tangerinedream who isn't already a member
here on
> >tadream, then I feel it's worth it to post playlists on both lists. If
that
> >last person would join tadream, then tangerinedream could be shut down
and I
> >wouldn't have to post there anymore. ;-)
>
> I thought the purpose of tangerinedream was to have a parallel list for
topics not permitted on tadream. Although considering the tree projects that
have taken place lately on tadream, maybe tangerinedream has outlived its
purpose? What's the official stance these days?
>
> --Daniel
> NP: Gamma Ray - No World Order
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
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>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


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<MESSAGE index="36689">
From: 

Paul Fellows <pfellows@c...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 16, 2002  5:17
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] tadream vs tangerinedream


Hi all

The real question is, is TDI subscribed to tangerinedream as well? Because
if they are, there doesn't seem to be much point in having two lists because
if we discuss boots they'll know about it anyway. There have been several
trees recently and let's be honest they've all been either discussed or
mentioned on tadream, even when some people would have preferred otherwise.

Not to mention that messages are often duplicated to both lists so we get
the same message twice which is a waste of time and money (at least for the
rest of the world outside the USA).

As for Goblin's Club, well...there are so few who use it these days it would
make sense to have a limited distribution list, we all know each other
anyway :-)

I vote for just one list, i.e. tadream.

It would be nice to get TDI's reactions to all this, Martin?

Paul

on 16/10/02 6:46, Bill Fox at billfox@f... wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <quarlie@a...>
>> My only objection to Bill posting his playlists is that he crossposts them
>> all
> to tangerinedream. Is that necessary? Honestly, how many people are on
> tangerinedream who aren't on tadream?
>> --Daniel
> 
> If there is only one person on tangerinedream who isn't already a member here
> on
> tadream, then I feel it's worth it to post playlists on both lists. If that
> last person would join tadream, then tangerinedream could be shut down and I
> wouldn't have to post there anymore. ;-)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Bill
> 


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From: 

'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 16, 2002  5:22
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Lawler and friends


does she live upstairs from you?
I guess you may have seen her before
Paulus.d_uk
----- Original Message -----
From: 'David Butler' <daventura98@y...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 8:10 PM
Subject: [tadream] Lawler and friends


> I wonder if he's also Jerry Lawler, the wrestler? OK,
> lots of catching up to do. Congratulations to
> Marcel...I have only one question...Will Luka live on
> the second floor? Please someone get it. Alright, so
> I'm at my local little thrift store on Friday and pick
> up an old Patrick O'Hearn cassete that I didn't have.
> So I'm reading the liner notes...produced by Peter
> Baumann, recorded by O'Hearn and Baumann, on the
> Private Label...hmmm...do you think? Between Two
> Worlds is the title, from '87. I can't recommend it
> though. Maybe after I listen to it 7 or 8 hundred more
> times....David
>
> NP...Asia...Asia (if only Edgar could play guitar like
> Steve Howe...man o man)
>
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<MESSAGE index="36691">
From: 

'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 16, 2002  6:11
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Tangerine leaves


From: 'Heiko Heerssen' <heiko.heerssen@h...>

> I would like to announce an idea which may be of interest to those TD
> afficionados who can't get enough of unreleased TD concerts:
>
> another tree (oh no, not again ;-) called 'Tangerine leaves'


Well, unlike John Vertical (who never seems to like any of the trees when
they're first suggested, but then gives in and signs up to them anyway <wink>
;-) I am very much a completist and any chance to get these tapes from a source
closest to the original makes me very happy indeed :-).

Of course all the pre-1980s concerts are improvised and unique, but I find there
is still enough improvisation in many of the post-1980's concerts to make each
one interesting.

Many thanks to Heiko for his efforts to spread this material around. Count me
in.


Maff
_________________________________________________
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www.mst3uk.com


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<MESSAGE index="36692">
From: 

Christian Villazón <christian@u...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 16, 2002  9:12
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Tangerine leaves


Hello,
First, many thanks to Heiko for this idea to spread this material.
It is a great idea and I would like to participate.

Christian

P.D. Like TT1 and TT2, if the 'Tangerine Leaves' will be carried out
I 'd like to participate in DOWN mode please
because in my country is imposible to participate using mail. Thanks


-----Original Message-----
From: Heiko Heerssen [mailto:heiko.heerssen@h...]
Sent: Miércoles, 16 de Octubre de 2002 08:00 a.m.
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] Tangerine leaves


Hello Tadreamers,
I would like to announce an idea which may be of interest to those TD
afficionados who can't get enough of unreleased TD concerts:

another tree (oh no, not again ;-) called 'Tangerine leaves'

....that deals with releasing low generation audience recordings which
will not get included in the 'Tangerine Tree' series for various
reasons, like for example concerts from the 70s which have a more or
less mediocre sound quality even though we have a master tape or a copy
thereof (btw, 'mediocre' means that the recording is still listenable,
and please keep in mind that every TD concert up to 1978 was totally
improvised), or master tape recordings from concert tours of the 80s and
90s where it's enough to use just the two best sources for the
'Tangerine Tree' series (because each gig within a concert tour had more
or less the same music with just very little improvisation, and for 'TT'
the most important factors are the variety of concerts and the sound
quality) But I still would regard these concerts as interesting,
especially those from the early 80s where there still was room for
improvisation (especially from Johannes Schmoelling)

Of course all these recordings would get that special 'tree
remastering' which makes them stand above the rest, and this would also
be a good opportunity to create some more of the great artwork covers.
Here are a few concerts which could be a part of 'Tangerine leaves':

-04 October 1975 Coventry Cathedral 2nd gen. tape
-14 October 1975 Aylesbury Friars Vale Hall 2nd gen. tape
-19 October 1975 Manchester Hardrock 2nd gen. tape
-29 October 1976 Mainz Elzerhof 2nd gen. tape
-09 November 1976 Portsmouth Guild Hall 1st gen.
-14 November 1976 Croydon Fairfield Hall 1st gen.
-25 February 1978 Düsseldorf Philipshalle
-17 March 1978 Brussels Cirque Royal 2nd gen.
-01 November 1980 Dublin National Stadium low gen.
-02 November 1980 Newcastle City Hall 1st gen.
-26 January 1981 Berlin ICC low gen.
-20 October 1981 London hammersmith Odeon 1st gen.
-06 November 1982 London Dominion 3rd gen. (best source)
-19 March 1986 Liverpool Royal Court 2nd gen.
-29 June 1986 Washington Warner 4th gen.
plus some more concerts from the 1988,1990,1992, and 1997 tours.

Comments please (off-list would also be ok ;-)

regards
Heiko


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<MESSAGE index="36693">
From: 

PENFOLD <penfold@a...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 16, 2002  7:26
pm
Subject:  RFC: re-hosting the mailing list (was Re: [tadream] tadream vs tangerinedream)


At 02.10.16-19:17, Paul Fellows wrote:
>I vote for just one list, i.e. tadream.

For no reason whatsoever, Yahoo unsubbed me saying my emails were 
bouncing.

This seems to happen a few times each year, which is more than 
enough for me.

I'm gonna be chatting with a friend who just started a hosting 
business to set up the hosting of my domain penfold.net
Would you listizens like me to talk to him about setting up the 
list through his server?
I also have a friend in the Bayeria who runs his own domain and 
has a few mailing lists running.


Pete Isaacson aka °º¤ø,¸DJ DreamHead¸,ø¤º°
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<MESSAGE index="36694">
From: 

David Butler <daventura98@y...> 
Date:  Wed Oct 16, 2002  9:34
pm
Subject:  Something New


Just found a cool website. I remember someone asking
about the instruments that each person played on each
album, or maybe that was on the official site, can't
remember. Oh well, here it is anyway.

http://www.artistdirect.com/store/artist/album/full/0,,499911,00.html

NP...Yes...Big Generator (only because I don't have
any TD anymore)

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