From: quarlie@a... Date: Thu Oct 17, 2002 4:46 am Subject: Re: [tadream] Something New David Butler wrote: >Just found a cool website. I remember someone asking >about the instruments that each person played on each >album, or maybe that was on the official site, can't >remember. Oh well, here it is anyway. > >http://www.artistdirect.com/store/artist/album/full/0,,499911,00.html If I'm not mistaken, all that info is from the All-Music Guide - http://www.allmusic.com/ - which has the advantage of not having pop-up ads. --Daniel NP: Orbital - In Sides From: Morgan Feldon Date: Thu Oct 17, 2002 6:07 am Subject: Rainbow Drive Rainbow Drive will be on Starz/Movieplex - Mystery Channel on Monday night, October 21st. Just thought I'd give a heads up. I'll definitely be TiVoing it. -Morgan From: Heiko Heerssen Date: Thu Oct 17, 2002 6:37 am Subject: Re: [tadream] Tangerine leaves > Heiko, this sounds great. Just don't hit us with too > many at once, eh? My wife is beginning to feel like a > 'TD widow'! Hi Jonathan, don't worry, this year she won't get hit by another tree (or covered with tangerine leaves ;-) Heiko From: 'John Vertical' Date: Thu Oct 17, 2002 10:52 am Subject: Re: [tadream] Tangerine leaves >Well, unlike John Vertical (who never seems to like any of the trees when >they're first suggested, but then gives in and signs up to them anyway > >;-) I am very much a completist and any chance to get these tapes from a >source >closest to the original makes me very happy indeed :-) Hey, I have nothing against the idea of getting more concerts - I just feel that this would leave less time for Heiko to carry on with TT... If he can accomplish both well, that's just great. I'm just concerned whether he is? Would these concerts then be exluded from future TT batches? So we have this 8/10 quality recording already tree'ed, and if a 9/10 quality version pops out of some corner, it will just have to wait in that corner? I hope not.. John Vertical _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free!  Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp From: Marko Marin Date: Thu Oct 17, 2002 11:14 am Subject: Re: [tadream] Tangerine leaves --- Matthew Sawyer wrote: > Well, unlike John Vertical (who never seems to like > any of the trees when > they're first suggested, but then gives in and signs > up to them anyway > ;-) I am very much a completist and any chance to > get these tapes from a source > closest to the original makes me very happy indeed > :-). I agree with you. I am one of those persons who would like the whole concerts, not only one five minute encore from there and one minute introduction there. I want whole concerts or absolutely nothing. Regards, Marko Marin ===== __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com From: Heiko Heerssen Date: Thu Oct 17, 2002 11:34 am Subject: Re: [tadream] Tangerine leaves > Hey, I have nothing against the idea of getting more concerts - I just feel > that this would leave less time for Heiko to carry on with TT... > If he can accomplish both well, that's just great. I'm just concerned > whether he is? I don't put myself under pressure with the Tree(s) anymore. I must admit that this wasn't the case in the very beginning, but nowadays time and pressure should not be an issue. We all have our daily jobs and other things around TD, and it would not be wise idea for me to set some sort of deadline to my 'remastering buddies' for getting their stuff done. The tree is like good wine, it has to ripen to become tasty ;-) > Would these concerts then be exluded from future TT batches? yes. Think of the Tangerine Tree as 'best of the best', and Tangerine Leaves as 'best of the rest'. If you're new to TD and only know (some of) their official releases you can choose TT as a starting point, and when you're already a 'die-hard' you can also go for Tangerine Leaves. > So we have this 8/10 quality recording already tree'ed, and if a 9/10 quality > version > pops out of some corner, it will just have to wait in that corner? I hope > not.. John, I'm just a TD fan and not a businessman!....Just in case a better version appears I'm happy and would think about an alternative :-) Heiko Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36704 Re: Tangerine leaves Marko Marin rubyconist Thu 10/17/2002 2 KB 36706 Re: Tangerine leaves braddito braddito Thu 10/17/2002 2 KB From: 'Steve Yensen' Date: Thu Oct 17, 2002 11:23 am Subject: Re: tadream vs tangerinedream Don't forget there are 4 TD lists on Yahoo: The 4th one is 'artofvision' - Jared White's list - remember him? (I'm sure some of you will remember him slagging off Paul Lawler before he left or was pushed) ... This one is pretty much dead, though. Cheers, Steve From: Marko Marin Date: Thu Oct 17, 2002 11:39 am Subject: Re: [tadream] Tangerine leaves --- Heiko Heerssen wrote: > We all have our daily jobs > and other things around TD, We do?! Well, okay, there's Schulze, Franke, Schmoelling, Williams, Elfman, Zimmer and... and... movies! Yes, movies... and... *cough* Why are you all staring me like that?! Regards, Marko Marin ===== __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com From: 'gkopuy' Date: Thu Oct 17, 2002 12:39 pm Subject: Re: Tangerine leaves Hi Heiko, I think I would participate in the 'lower quality' leave but I really prefer to include these recordings later in the Tangerine Tree project. Personally I don't find it a problem if the Tangerine Tree carries on for serveral years, assuming two trees are released per year. An other idea might be to release these 'lower quality' recordings in MP3 format. So serveral concerts can be put on one CD and it is easier to distribute them via internet. Regards, Roger Schuncken From: 'braddito' Date: Thu Oct 17, 2002 3:53 pm Subject: Re: Tangerine leaves Heiko said ; Think of the Tangerine Tree as 'best of the best', and Tangerine Leaves as 'best of the rest'. Sounds like an excellent way of describing a good idea. I look forward to it. Toby From: Morgan Feldon Date: Thu Oct 17, 2002 4:09 pm Subject: Tangerine Tree-Leaves >I think I would participate in the 'lower quality' leave but I really >prefer to include these recordings later in the Tangerine Tree >project. Personally I don't find it a problem if the Tangerine Tree >carries on for serveral years, assuming two trees are released per >year. The concerts listed for the Tangerine Leaves are not in the crosshairs of the Tangerine Tree project for many years to come. The goal of the Tangerine Tree is to get one excellent recording from each tour from 1980-present, and the best possible recordings from any show prior to 1979, especially tapes which have not generally been available to the public. This is just a guess, but I imagine over the next 2-3 years, the only representation 1980 will get is: The 1980.01.31 Berlin Palast der Republik evening show (better than 'Lifted Curtain') The 1980.10.13 Brussels, Belgium show (excerpted on Nostragram) Those two shows are truly gems and are the best recordings available from 1980. The others listed on the Tangerine Leaves are purely for the diehard collectors. The only significant changes from show-to-show are Edgar's performances on the guitar late in the 2nd set and then as the final encore of each show. You can also hear these (albiet in slightly lower quality) on Froese's Guitar Works project. >An other idea might be to release these 'lower quality' recordings in >MP3 format. So serveral concerts can be put on one CD and it is >easier to distribute them via internet. It's easy enough to trade privately with some of the collectors on the TD list and get these recordings. This is just an effort to get the shows out there. As with the other two trees, these recordings will be made available in SHN format for download. >Regards, >Roger Schuncken Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36708 Re: Tangerine Tree-Leaves Rolf Elfström rcade666 Thu 10/17/2002 2 KB From: Rolf Elfström Date: Thu Oct 17, 2002 4:42 pm Subject: Re: Tangerine Tree-Leaves >As with the other two trees, these recordings will be made available >in SHN format for download. Then I'm game, sign me up! Download don't cost me a thing besides time and I've got lots of that. =) Rolf From: 'Janet Wojtecki' Date: Thu Oct 17, 2002 5:16 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] Tangerine leaves Hello Heiko, Yes! Another good idea. Whilst as a collector, you might think that you have all that's available, it's surprising how much bad quality material is in the collection, particularly with the emergence of the high quality TT's . So yes, a sub level of favourite 75/76 concerts would be of great benefit. Let me know if I can contribute and help. Regards Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: 'Heiko Heerssen' To: Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 1:00 PM Subject: [tadream] Tangerine leaves > Hello Tadreamers, > I would like to announce an idea which may be of interest to those TD > afficionados who can't get enough of unreleased TD concerts: > > another tree (oh no, not again ;-) called 'Tangerine leaves' > > ....that deals with releasing low generation audience recordings which > will not get included in the 'Tangerine Tree' series for various > reasons, like for example concerts from the 70s which have a more or > less mediocre sound quality even though we have a master tape or a copy > thereof (btw, 'mediocre' means that the recording is still listenable, > and please keep in mind that every TD concert up to 1978 was totally > improvised), or master tape recordings from concert tours of the 80s and > 90s where it's enough to use just the two best sources for the > 'Tangerine Tree' series (because each gig within a concert tour had more > or less the same music with just very little improvisation, and for 'TT' > the most important factors are the variety of concerts and the sound > quality) But I still would regard these concerts as interesting, > especially those from the early 80s where there still was room for > improvisation (especially from Johannes Schmoelling) > > Of course all these recordings would get that special 'tree > remastering' which makes them stand above the rest, and this would also > be a good opportunity to create some more of the great artwork covers. > Here are a few concerts which could be a part of 'Tangerine leaves': > > -04 October 1975 Coventry Cathedral 2nd gen. tape > -14 October 1975 Aylesbury Friars Vale Hall 2nd gen. tape > -19 October 1975 Manchester Hardrock 2nd gen. tape > -29 October 1976 Mainz Elzerhof 2nd gen. tape > -09 November 1976 Portsmouth Guild Hall 1st gen. > -14 November 1976 Croydon Fairfield Hall 1st gen. > -25 February 1978 Dsseldorf Philipshalle > -17 March 1978 Brussels Cirque Royal 2nd gen. > -01 November 1980 Dublin National Stadium low gen. > -02 November 1980 Newcastle City Hall 1st gen. > -26 January 1981 Berlin ICC low gen. > -20 October 1981 London hammersmith Odeon 1st gen. > -06 November 1982 London Dominion 3rd gen. (best source) > -19 March 1986 Liverpool Royal Court 2nd gen. > -29 June 1986 Washington Warner 4th gen. > plus some more concerts from the 1988,1990,1992, and 1997 tours. > > Comments please (off-list would also be ok ;-) > > regards > Heiko > > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > From: 'John Vertical' Date: Thu Oct 17, 2002 5:33 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] Tangerine leaves >We all have our daily jobs and other things around TD, >and it would not be wise idea for me to set some sort of deadline to my >'remastering buddies' for getting their stuff done. The tree is like good >wine, >it has to ripen to become tasty ;-) 'Other things'..? Does homework count? > > Would these concerts then be exluded from future TT batches? > >yes. Think of the Tangerine Tree as 'best of the best', and Tangerine >Leaves as >'best of the rest'. > >Heiko Okay Maff, you were right.. ;) I'm subscribing (only for the 70s stuff though)... this after all is an unique opportunity to get unique material with little hassle. John Vertical (am I drawing too much attention to myself?) _________________________________________________________________ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From: 'Paul Dryden' Date: Thu Oct 17, 2002 5:49 pm Subject: TT's Hi guys, I now have TT1 and TT2, with many thanks to Maff. Does anyone know where I can get the track listings for the disks? Paulus.d [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36712 Re: TT's René Brenner fairway_ch Thu 10/17/2002 2 KB From: René Brenner Date: Thu Oct 17, 2002 6:33 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] TT's On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 18:49:37 +0100, Paul Dryden wrote: > Hi guys, > I now have TT1 and TT2, with many thanks to Maff. > Does anyone know where I can get the track listings for the disks? TT1: http://www.tadream.net/tree/content.htm TT2: http://www.tadream.net/tree/downloadcalculator/disks.htm Regards René From: 'Bill Fox' Date: Thu Oct 17, 2002 6:45 pm Subject: Listen to EMUSIC Worldwide! It has been a long time coming but now it has arrived!!!! You can now hear EMUSIC (and all of WDIY's great programming) anywhere you have internet access. All you need to do is visit http://wdiy.org and click on the LISTEN radio button. This dream come true is due, in part, to the members of WDIY. You can become a member of WDIY by calling 610-758-8810. What's that you say? You're outside the 610 area code (or the USA, for that matter)? No problem! You can make a secure on-line pledge at http://wdiy.org by clicking on the PLEDGE radio button. By becoming a member, you ensure that WDIY continues to provide innovative programming like EMUSIC on 88.1 FM in Allentown/Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 92.9 FM on Service Electric Cable, and now worldwide on the internet. Your pledge could very well be used to increase our bandwidth on the internet to ensure that all who want to listen are able to tune in. WDIY and EMUSIC are already known worldwide. Now they can be heard worldwide. Listen to EMUSIC at 11:04 pm (eastern daylight savings time/GMT-5:00). To celebrate the start of WDIY's Fall Membership Drive and the onset of our internet audio feed, EMUSIC will run an extra five hours (for a total of SEVEN HOURS!!), featuring music from the ten CD box set 'Contemporary Works Volume 1' by Klaus Schulze on the Rainhorse/Manikin label. Cheers, Bill =============================================================================== Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic Host of the AM/FM Show on WMUH Allentown 91.7 FM every other Saturday at 6 am. Host of Afterglow on WMUH every Thursday morning from 8:00 to 9:30. http://soundscapes.us/~bill/amfm http://soundscapes.us/~bill/afterglow Radio Station Web Sites: http://wdiy.org http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh Personal site: http://soundscapes.us/~bill To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emusic-wdiy and click on [Join This Group!] SOUNDSCAPES Concert Series: http://soundscapes.us From: 'fozziebear' Date: Thu Oct 17, 2002 7:49 pm Subject: Tangerine leaves I like Heiko's idea of a sub tree. It is a good opportunity for many who don't have CD's of particular concerts already. Personally I like the 78 stuff more than 75 / 76. Would some people prefer that trees are released by particluar year, as far as possible rather than a mixture? I would need to think on it but might skip 75 stuff and wait for 78. If it was later stuff a mixture would be alright. David [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From: 'Administrator' Date: Thu Oct 17, 2002 7:57 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] Tangerine leaves Heiko's time is precious. We all should give him a great thanks for considering doing this. Fact is, all of our time is precious. We only have so much here. I look forward to any opportunity to listen to TD, esp. these early concerts. If something better does come to light at a latter date, then get it. I would just take what I have of the best and redo a CD to include that better item if one did exist. Minor problem. It is more a major problem not hearing any of it. For some reason, this is starting to sound more like stamp collecting than music appreciation. dale ----- Original Message ----- From: 'fozziebear' To: Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 12:49 PM Subject: [tadream] Tangerine leaves > I like Heiko's idea of a sub tree. > It is a good opportunity for many who don't have CD's of particular concerts already. > Personally I like the 78 stuff more than 75 / 76. Would some people prefer that trees are released by particluar year, as far as possible rather than a mixture? I would need to think on it but might skip 75 stuff and wait for 78. > > If it was later stuff a mixture would be alright. > > David > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > From: 'Colin Jouxson' Date: Thu Oct 17, 2002 7:58 pm Subject: Off Topic-Tangerine Dream-The Greatest. Undoubtedly the Greatest of all time,Just been listening to the Incredible Royal Albert Hall 2,4,75 again,there is no doubt in my mind,this is the Greatest of all time,tangerine dream were and still are the Untouchables,come on EF&JF show em you are still QUALITY. TANGERINE DREAM RULES. Best regards Colin J South Wales UK From: Rainer Rutka Date: Thu Oct 17, 2002 9:14 pm Subject: The Tangerine Dream Band 1969 (no joke). UNDERGROUND film pictures and sound-examples online now! Hi! Something new in the 'he was young and needed the money'. I put the first version of some infos about the 'UNDERGROUND' film with Edgar as a main actor onto my page. The film was made 1969 and the film soundtrack was done by (end credits of the film): 'Edgar Froese and The Tangerine Dream Band'. Yes, some TD music from 1969!!! I put two short examples and some infos onto the UNDERGROUND special page. Please read the page carefully before writing an email to me :-) ================================================================ CU soon on this place and have fun! Mit den besten Gruessen, Rainer PS: Edgar - don't kill me! This is a piece of history :-))) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ www.rutka.de/td - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From: Rainer Rutka Date: Fri Oct 18, 2002 10:28 am Subject: Test-ignore Sorry! This is only a test. I do not get any TD-ML postings right now :-( Rainer From: Date: Fri Oct 18, 2002 11:12 am Subject: Klaus Schulze Tapes Hello All, A month or two ago, I sent out a set of Klaus Schulze tapes to someone. Being as over the hill as I am, and as many hours in the day I am pushed to work, I can not remember to whom I sent these tapes if my life depended on it. (Thank God it doesn't) If you received these tapes, please drop me a line? Thanks Neal From: 'tei waz' Date: Fri Oct 18, 2002 12:47 pm Subject: re blues from underground >PS: Edgar - don't kill me! This is a piece of history :-))) from the looks of that promo picture--he very well might! ;) ah yes, some more edgar guitar work sees the light of day. thanks for the excerpts Rainer! --T np Live Phish 15 10.31.96 (Remain In Light) _________________________________________________________________ Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36721 Re: re blues from underground John Vertical omegatransfinito Fri 10/18/2002 2 KB From: 'John Vertical' Date: Fri Oct 18, 2002 3:23 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] re blues from underground >ah yes, some more edgar guitar work sees the light of day. > >thanks for the excerpts Rainer! > >--T This blues guitar stuff sounds remarkably deja vú - it resembles in some aspects some Edgar's live guitar solo from some TT volume, I just can't remember what one... Do they have to be so bloody long? Monolith would be a top 10 unreleased track if the guitarsolo was some 10 minutes shorter... John Vertical (who's getting sidetracked) _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From: 'Owens, James' Date: Fri Oct 18, 2002 4:08 pm Subject: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. (was: [tadream] blues from undergroun d) As I read this, I'm sitting here listening to Edgar's 9 to 10 minute solo in Pergammon part 2. (Granted, this isn't *really* live but it's awesome nevertheless). To me, guitar work like this is what sets TD a step up from JMJ and Vangelis (I'm a big fan of both of them too). It's this combination of incredible guitar and endless sequences that makes this piece so special to me. You have to have major respect for anyone who can solo for 10+ minutes on the same chords and still have your interest by the end! Then that transition from guitar solo to synth lead is so smooth! It pulls my heart-strings everytime I hear it. Even more incredible is the background sequence, which runs almost 20 minutes with no changes - and yet it ties all the transformations from the rest of this piece together into one incredible unified piece, rocketing you along the whole time, leaving you yearning for more at it's end. It is precisely this ability to take a single motiff and squeeze all that excitement and emotion into it that will always keep these TD pieces at the all-time top of the list for music listening. James -----Original Message----- From: John Vertical [mailto:johnvertical@h...] Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 10:23 AM To: tadream@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [tadream] re blues from underground >ah yes, some more edgar guitar work sees the light of day. > >thanks for the excerpts Rainer! > >--T This blues guitar stuff sounds remarkably deja vú - it resembles in some aspects some Edgar's live guitar solo from some TT volume, I just can't remember what one... Do they have to be so bloody long? Monolith would be a top 10 unreleased track if the guitarsolo was some 10 minutes shorter... John Vertical (who's getting sidetracked) _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ----------------------------------------------------_- To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ----------------------------------------------------_- Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ Tangerine Tree info at http://www.tadream.net/tree Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36725 Re: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. (was: [tadream] blues from undergrou Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Fri 10/18/2002 2 KB 36729 Re: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. Kevin Ball kesbol Fri 10/18/2002 3 KB 36732 Re: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. Synthhtnys@a... Fri 10/18/2002 2 KB 36734 Re: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. John Vertical omegatransfinito Sat 10/19/2002 3 KB 36739 Re: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. Paul Dryden paulus_d2002 Sat 10/19/2002 5 KB 36743 Re: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. Jonathan Holt plantpot_73 Sat 10/19/2002 5 KB 36775 Re: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. Armin Theissen armin_theissen Mon 10/21/2002 3 KB From: 'braddito' Date: Fri Oct 18, 2002 4:12 pm Subject: Programme project update So far we have : First UK show 74, UK tours 74, 75, 76, 78, 81, 82. Scans have been offered for UK 86 and 90, plus autographed pages from UK 82 and I'm awaiting a reply on Aussie 82 and US 86. I would really love to get any European tours, North America 77 and UK 80. If you can help with any of these, please contact me directly. Thanks Toby From: Wade Gordon Date: Fri Oct 18, 2002 4:24 pm Subject: Off Topic- UK and European fans please respond. People in Europe and the UK please get with me privately concerning satellite radio. Best wishes, Wade Gordon __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com From: Rainer Rutka Date: Fri Oct 18, 2002 4:44 pm Subject: Re: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. (was: [tadream] blues from undergroun d) > You have to have major respect for anyone who can solo for 10+ > minutes on the same chords and still have your interest by the end! Yes, Neil Young can do this, too :_) Rainer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ www.rutka.de/td - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From: 'fozziebear' Date: Fri Oct 18, 2002 7:08 pm Subject: Programme project Toby, was there a UK 80 programme? Looking through my stuff I can't find one and I probably would have got one if there was one. I just looked through the UK 86 and it had a good quote from John Peel of Sounds 'T.Dream or not T.Dream?- They have made the music the star of the show, not the musicians and not the means of making the music. A new creative energy' If the rest of you haven't looked at an 86 programme you might like the other quotes regarding Thief and one on Poland from a Mark Jenkins of Melody Maker. David [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36731 Re: Programme project Chris Owen ledjarde2000 Fri 10/18/2002 3 KB 36799 Re: Programme project braddito braddito Tue 10/22/2002 2 KB 37546 Re: Programme project mad4rock75 mad4rock75 Mon 12/9/2002 3 KB 36804 Re: Programme project Chris Owen ledjarde2000 Tue 10/22/2002 5 KB 36805 The Tangerine Dream Band 1969 (complete members + foto) Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Tue 10/22/2002 3 KB From: 'fozziebear' Date: Fri Oct 18, 2002 7:12 pm Subject: Re: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. (was: [tadream] blues from underground) James said It is precisely this ability to take a single motiff and squeeze all that excitement and emotion into it that will always keep these TD pieces at the all-time top of the list for music listening Yeah, I agree I think the same can be said about Schulze and his solos David From: 'fozziebear' Date: Fri Oct 18, 2002 7:17 pm Subject: Schulze Talking of Schulze, does anyone have a CDR of Brussels Forest National 1980 or Linz Symphony? Please contact me off list David [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From: 'Kevin Ball' Date: Fri Oct 18, 2002 7:44 pm Subject: RE: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. Pergammon Part Two - Love it. This and Coldwater Canyon are probably my favourite tracks of all time. Both very similar in style. -----Original Message----- From: Owens, James [mailto:james.owens@m...] Sent: 18 October 2002 17:08 To: 'tadream@yahoogroups.com' Subject: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. (was: [tadream] blues from underground) As I read this, I'm sitting here listening to Edgar's 9 to 10 minute solo in Pergammon part 2. (Granted, this isn't *really* live but it's awesome nevertheless). To me, guitar work like this is what sets TD a step up from JMJ and Vangelis (I'm a big fan of both of them too). It's this combination of incredible guitar and endless sequences that makes this piece so special to me. You have to have major respect for anyone who can solo for 10+ minutes on the same chords and still have your interest by the end! Then that transition from guitar solo to synth lead is so smooth! It pulls my heart-strings everytime I hear it. Even more incredible is the background sequence, which runs almost 20 minutes with no changes - and yet it ties all the transformations from the rest of this piece together into one incredible unified piece, rocketing you along the whole time, leaving you yearning for more at it's end. It is precisely this ability to take a single motiff and squeeze all that excitement and emotion into it that will always keep these TD pieces at the all-time top of the list for music listening. James Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36732 Re: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. Synthhtnys@a... Fri 10/18/2002 2 KB 36734 Re: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. John Vertical omegatransfinito Sat 10/19/2002 3 KB 36739 Re: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. Paul Dryden paulus_d2002 Sat 10/19/2002 5 KB 36743 Re: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. Jonathan Holt plantpot_73 Sat 10/19/2002 5 KB 36775 Re: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. Armin Theissen armin_theissen Mon 10/21/2002 3 KB From: 'duncan mckee' Date: Fri Oct 18, 2002 8:51 pm Subject: digital video tree cover hi all there is an error on the cover for volume 6 of the above set(i forgot to change the line up), i have sent out a few sets already with this error, so to save me posting new covers i have uploaded the cover for volume 6 to my website. http://www.members.tripod.com/~duncanmckee/digitalvideo/volume6.jpg Thanks Duncan McKee tangram@t... www.tadream.co.uk www.tangerine-dream.co.uk MSN Messenger dmckee20@h... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From: 'Chris Owen' Date: Sat Oct 19, 2002 5:50 am Subject: Re: [tadream] Programme project David, I can definitely confirm that there was no1980 UK tour progrgamme. I have a press cutting stating that Virgin felt there wasn't enough up-to-date pictures/info to warrant producing an entire programme for the tour. However, what pictures they did have went into the 1970-1980 Boxset booklet instead. - Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: fozziebear To: Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 12:08 PM Subject: [tadream] Programme project > Toby, was there a UK 80 programme? Looking through my stuff I can't find one and I probably would have got one if there was one. > > I just looked through the UK 86 and it had a good quote from John Peel of Sounds 'T.Dream or not T.Dream?- They have made the music the star of the show, not the musicians and not the means of making the music. A new creative energy' > > If the rest of you haven't looked at an 86 programme you might like the other quotes regarding Thief > > and one on Poland from a Mark Jenkins of Melody Maker. > > David > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36799 Re: Programme project braddito braddito Tue 10/22/2002 2 KB 37546 Re: Programme project mad4rock75 mad4rock75 Mon 12/9/2002 3 KB From: Synthhtnys@a... Date: Fri Oct 18, 2002 10:30 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] RE: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. In a message dated 10/18/2002 12:45:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time, KevinBall@T... writes: > Pergammon Part Two - Love it. > > This and Coldwater Canyon are probably my favourite tracks of all time. > > Both very similar in style. > *I would agree that these two were Edgars finest hour on the guitar.... Poly [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From: 'vic rek' Date: Sat Oct 19, 2002 1:00 am Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Paul Lawler Yes, and all of these 'musicians' will be attending the Ricochet Gathering at the Mojave Desert in April of 2003. Details are in the works for the final line-up which will feature a few well known EM bands I must say ... :-) As for Edgar - ya - He will 'be there' too :-) Vic From: 'Kees Aerts / Groove Unlimited' > >From: 'Falcon' > >To: > > > >Yes I am both 'Arcane' and 'Max van richter' as well as myself now and > >again > > > >;) > > > > > > Oh, i see, a split personality. Maybe you're also Edgar Froese. . . you > > > never know ;-)))) > > > > > > Ramon > > > >ahem ! ;) > > yes, it's him. > From: 'John Vertical' Date: Sat Oct 19, 2002 8:19 am Subject: Re: [tadream] RE: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. >From: Synthhtnys@a... > > Pergammon Part Two - Love it. > > > > This and Coldwater Canyon are probably my favourite tracks of all time. > > > > Both very similar in style. > > > >*I would agree that these two were Edgars finest hour on the guitar.... >Poly Coldwater Canyon is simply excellent for the first 3 minutes and the last 6 minutes, but the mid-section lacks energy. (And am I the only one who does believe it's a live track? Is there any proof it isn't?) With Quitzotte pt 2 (fave spelling) and also with Monolith and TT1 pt 2, probably others too, it takes me about 5-7 minutes to get into the solo. I remember nothing from those first solo halves, but the end halves seem to be much more innovative. Of course Ricochet, Cloudburst Flight, Green Desert, Bondy Parade, most of Underwater Sunlight, Cool Breeze of Brighton, and finally Hamlet are great too... John Vertical np: Rubycon pt 1 _________________________________________________________________ Broadband? Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From: Morgan Feldon Date: Sat Oct 19, 2002 8:39 am Subject: Coldwater Canyon >Coldwater Canyon is simply excellent for the first 3 minutes and the last 6 >minutes, but the mid-section lacks energy. (And am I the only one who does >believe it's a live track? Is there any proof it isn't?) > >John Vertical We can't prove it's not live until we have a recording of every 1977 show. Since 1977 shows had an hour or more of improvised music per show, it COULD be one of the following shows for which we do not have a tape: April 1 Chicago, U.S.A. Aragon Ballroom April 6 Philadelphia, U.S.A. Tower Theater April 12 Chicoutimi, Canada Dufour Auditorium April 15 Hamilton, Canada Hamilton Place April 16 Ottawa, Canada Civic Center April 20 Portland, U.S.A. Paramount Theater April 25 San Francisco, U.S.A. Berkeley Community Theater Cherokee Lane and Monolight are slightly re-edited versions of the April 4 Washington, DC U.S.A Lisner Auditorium show Desert Dream is basically a studio remix of the 'Zeus' part of the Oedipus Tyrannus concert, performed on 1974.08.18 and broadcast on the radio on the 22nd and 29th. There are, of course, new bits added including the pleasant 'anthem' around the 12-13 minute mark and added sequences here and there. -Morgan Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36738 Re: Coldwater Canyon John Vertical omegatransfinito Sat 10/19/2002 3 KB 36774 Re: Coldwater Canyon Heiko Heerssen td_freak Mon 10/21/2002 3 KB From: ampmusic Date: Sat Oct 19, 2002 12:09 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] Digest Number 1537 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: fozziebear > To: > Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 12:08 PM > Subject: [tadream] Programme project > > > Toby, was there a UK 80 programme? Looking through my stuff I can't find > one and I probably would have got one if there was one. > > > > I just looked through the UK 86 and it had a good quote from John Peel of > Sounds 'T.Dream or not T.Dream?- They have made the music the star of the > show, not the musicians and not the means of making the music. A new > creative energy' > > > > If the rest of you haven't looked at an 86 programme you might like the > other quotes regarding Thief and one on Poland from a Mark Jenkins of Melody Maker. > > > > David Wot, THIS Mark Jenkins? :-) http://www.markjenkins.net Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36740 Re: Digest Number 1537 fozziebear fozziebearbeehive Sat 10/19/2002 2 KB From: 'John Vertical' Date: Sat Oct 19, 2002 2:25 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] Coldwater Canyon >Cherokee Lane and Monolight are slightly re-edited versions of the >April 4 Washington, DC U.S.A Lisner Auditorium show I agree with Monolight (99% the same) but is 4.4. really the version of Cherokee Lane that resembles the released version the most? Since I only can hear a few similarities (the very beginning, few Mellotron clips). >Desert Dream is basically a studio remix of the 'Zeus' part of the Oedipus >Tyrannus concert, performed on 1974.08.18 and broadcast on the radio on the >22nd and 29th. There are, of course, new bits added including the pleasant >'anthem' around the 12-13 minute mark and added sequences here and there. > >-Morgan Is the small end clip, the one that got used on Stereolight, found from any live show? And same with Ricochet Part 1 too - has any tape got the rest of the piece, besides the robust intro chords from TT vol. 7? John Vertical _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free!  Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp From: 'Paul Dryden' Date: Sat Oct 19, 2002 3:04 pm Subject: Re: Re: [tadream] RE: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. The solo on Elenor Rigby is someone called Mark Hornby, or thats what it says on my Shepherds Bush CD! I got it at the 1996 Shepherds Bush Empire concert Paulus.d_uk ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 12:54 PM Subject: Tr: Re: [tadream] RE: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. Yes, Hamlet is simply brilliant. And So is the solo on the eleanor rigby cover. ----Message réexpédié---- >A: tadream@yahoogroups.com >De: 'John Vertical' >Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 11:19:16 +0300 >Sujet: Re: [tadream] RE: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. > > > > > >>From: Synthhtnys@a... >> > Pergammon Part Two - Love it. >> > >> > This and Coldwater Canyon are probably my favourite tracks of all time. >> > >> > Both very similar in style. >> > >> >>*I would agree that these two were Edgars finest hour on the guitar.... >>Poly > > >Coldwater Canyon is simply excellent for the first 3 minutes and the last 6 >minutes, but the mid-section lacks energy. (And am I the only one who does >believe it's a live track? Is there any proof it isn't?) > >With Quitzotte pt 2 (fave spelling) and also with Monolith and TT1 pt 2, >probably others too, it takes me about 5-7 minutes to get into the solo. I >remember nothing from those first solo halves, but the end halves seem to be >much more innovative. > >Of course Ricochet, Cloudburst Flight, Green Desert, Bondy Parade, most of >Underwater Sunlight, Cool Breeze of Brighton, and finally Hamlet are great >too... > >John Vertical > >np: Rubycon pt 1 > >_________________________________________________________________ >Broadband? Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. >http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > >----------------------------------------------------_- >To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >----------------------------------------------------_- >Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at >http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > >Tangerine Tree info at >http://www.tadream.net/tree > >Your use of Yahoo! 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ID Date Size 36743 Re: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. Jonathan Holt plantpot_73 Sat 10/19/2002 5 KB From: 'fozziebear' Date: Sat Oct 19, 2002 5:46 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] Digest Number 1537 > > > If the rest of you haven't looked at an 86 programme you might like the > > other quotes regarding Thief and one on Poland from a Mark Jenkins of Melody Maker. > > > > > > David > > Wot, THIS Mark Jenkins? :-) > > http://www.markjenkins.net I don't know, that's what I thought someone might be able to answer. The quote from the Mark Jenkins of Melody Maker was 'Live in Poland shows how the most advanced computer music technology in the world can produce accessible, exciting and expressive music.' David From: 'fozziebear' Date: Sat Oct 19, 2002 5:48 pm Subject: Guitar solos I like the guitar work on the Purple Haze track..........in fact the whole track from 220 Volt Live. David [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36749 Re: Guitar solos Paul Dryden paulus_d2002 Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB From: 'Admin' Date: Sat Oct 19, 2002 5:59 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Paul Lawler Be sure to dress up for a bit of the nip in the air in April.... Where? dale ----- Original Message ----- From: 'vic rek' To: Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Paul Lawler > Yes, and all of these 'musicians' will be attending the Ricochet Gathering > at the Mojave Desert in April of 2003. Details are in the works for the > final line-up which will feature a few well known EM bands I must say ... > :-) > > As for Edgar - ya - He will 'be there' too :-) > > Vic > > From: 'Kees Aerts / Groove Unlimited' > > >From: 'Falcon' > > >To: > > > > >Yes I am both 'Arcane' and 'Max van richter' as well as myself now > and > > >again > > > > >;) > > > > > > > > Oh, i see, a split personality. Maybe you're also Edgar Froese. . . > you > > > > never know ;-)))) > > > > > > > > Ramon > > > > > >ahem ! ;) > > > > yes, it's him. > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > From: Jonathan Holt Date: Sat Oct 19, 2002 6:09 pm Subject: Re: Re: [tadream] RE: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. Didn't Mark Hornby play on parts of Tyranny Of Beauty too? --- Paul Dryden wrote: > The solo on Elenor Rigby is someone called Mark > Hornby, or thats what it > says on my Shepherds Bush CD! > I got it at the 1996 Shepherds Bush Empire concert > Paulus.d_uk > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 12:54 PM > Subject: Tr: Re: [tadream] RE: Edgar's guitar solos, > etc. > > > Yes, Hamlet is simply brilliant. And So is the solo > on the eleanor rigby > cover. > > > ----Message réexpédié---- > >A: tadream@yahoogroups.com > >De: 'John Vertical' > >Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 11:19:16 +0300 > >Sujet: Re: [tadream] RE: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > >>From: Synthhtnys@a... > >> > Pergammon Part Two - Love it. > >> > > >> > This and Coldwater Canyon are probably my > favourite tracks of all time. > >> > > >> > Both very similar in style. > >> > > >> > >>*I would agree that these two were Edgars finest > hour on the guitar.... > >>Poly > > > > > >Coldwater Canyon is simply excellent for the first > 3 minutes and the last 6 > >minutes, but the mid-section lacks energy. (And am > I the only one who does > >believe it's a live track? Is there any proof it > isn't?) > > > >With Quitzotte pt 2 (fave spelling) and also with > Monolith and TT1 pt 2, > >probably others too, it takes me about 5-7 minutes > to get into the solo. I > >remember nothing from those first solo halves, but > the end halves seem to > be > >much more innovative. > > > >Of course Ricochet, Cloudburst Flight, Green > Desert, Bondy Parade, most of > >Underwater Sunlight, Cool Breeze of Brighton, and > finally Hamlet are great > >too... > > > >John Vertical > > > >np: Rubycon pt 1 > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Broadband? Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet > Access. > >http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------_- > >To unsubscribe: > mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > >----------------------------------------------------_- > >Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > >http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > > >Tangerine Tree info at > >http://www.tadream.net/tree > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > NetCourrier, votre bureau virtuel sur Internet : > Mail, Agenda, Clubs, > Toolbar... > Web/Wap : www.netcourrier.com > Téléphone/Fax : 08 92 69 00 21 (0,34 ? TTC/min) > Minitel: 3615 NETCOURRIER (0,15 ? TTC/min) > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: > mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! 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From: Admin > Be sure to dress up for a bit of the nip in the air in April.... > Where? > Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Paul Lawler > > Yes, and all of these 'musicians' will be attending the Ricochet Gathering > > at the Mojave Desert in April of 2003. Details are in the works for the > > final line-up which will feature a few well known EM bands I must say ... > > :-) > > > > As for Edgar - ya - He will 'be there' too :-) > > > > Vic From: Chris Richards Date: Sat Oct 19, 2002 7:52 pm Subject: Re: solos <<> You have to have major respect for anyone who can solo for 10+ > minutes on the same chords and still have your interest by the end! Yes, Neil Young can do this, too :_) >> There are plenty of musicians who've done that. Listen to any of the live recordings of John Coltrane, where he'd stretch songs out to ten or more minutes. During the last year or two of his life, he was stretching songs out to upwards of an hour. ===== May you never thirst! The Scuba Diver Presently Known As Chris 'What do you get when you give a yo-yo to a flock of flamingos?'-James Earl Jones __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36746 Re: solos - Coltrane (off-topic) Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Sat 10/19/2002 3 KB 36747 Re: solos - Coltrane (off-topic) Admin dale1kay Sat 10/19/2002 4 KB 36751 Re: solos - Coltrane (off-topic) orangefunk_2000 orangefunk_2000 Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB From: Rainer Rutka Date: Sat Oct 19, 2002 10:15 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: solos - Coltrane (off-topic) On Sat, 19 Oct 2002, Chris Richards wrote: > There are plenty of musicians who've done that. > Listen to any of the live recordings of John > Coltrane, where he'd stretch songs out to ten or > more minutes. During the last year or two of his > life, he was stretching songs out to upwards of > an hour. Well, I don't agree because of John Coltrane. Yes - he'd stretch songs out to 20+ minutes and more (e.G. 'Summertime'). BUT(!) after 1 or 2 minutes you can't descem what song he is playing at the moment. In the beginning you hear the original tunes, than 20 minutes of free interpretation and comming back in the end for 1 minute of memonzation what he was playing at the beginning. He is / was a genious but .... :-( (sorry this is off-topic!) :_( Rainer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ www.rutka.de/td - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36747 Re: solos - Coltrane (off-topic) Admin dale1kay Sat 10/19/2002 4 KB 36751 Re: solos - Coltrane (off-topic) orangefunk_2000 orangefunk_2000 Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB From: 'Admin' Date: Sat Oct 19, 2002 10:38 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: solos - Coltrane (off-topic) BUT(!) after > 1 or 2 minutes you can't descem what song he is playing at the moment. > In the beginning you hear the original tunes, than 20 minutes of > free interpretation and comming back in the end for 1 minute of > memonzation what he was playing at the beginning. He is / was > a genious but .... :-( > Being able to know what tune you are soloing is a talent. Soloing is great but like you pointed out, if you forget the melody or the tune while listening to the solo, then have it swing back on you in the end does leave something desirable. While others might find this great, in the example of guitar players and their followers, others find this more of a distraction. Using classical roots, much like Edgar does on occasion, has show a excellent example of taking a minimalist view in this fine art. However, there are occasions when even the 'Great Edgar' has embellish the art of soling to a extreme. Much to my dismay. Not that I do not enjoy finding out that someone here on the list listens to John Coltrane or even Jazz.... (pleasant surprise) I find myself reinvestigating this lost art of soloing. (I won't even tell you how I hate setting up the equipment for my wife's band when she has a few guitar players who use the same solo no matter what song is being performed).(Just to be a thorn, I did offer once to record the solo and give them a rest thereafter when it was needed since it was going to be the same everytime in every song, I could just push play and they can practice those great air guitar moves). dale ----- Original Message ----- From: 'Rainer Rutka' To: Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: solos - Coltrane (off-topic) Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36751 Re: solos - Coltrane (off-topic) orangefunk_2000 orangefunk_2000 Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB From: 'Matthew Sawyer' Date: Sat Oct 19, 2002 11:53 pm Subject: Classic Tree Update Time for an update on the progress of the Classic Tree project. I've finished the tree structure today and if you head over to the database page you'll find your branch assignments. (Those of you having problems viewing the database may want to try logging into Yahoo groups first). You can also see your branch and tree level on this page: www.matthewsawyer.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/bin/CTlevels.htm Please check your entry in the database to make sure everything is correct. I've tried to keep everyone's supplier as local as possible. If you have a problem with your branch assignment, contact me off-list and I'll try to make alternative arrangements for you. I've locked the database for the time being. If you need to amend your information, contact me off-list. You'll be able to update your entry to 'received' after the discs start being sent out. I'll be seeding the tree with about 150 discs to get things moving as fast as possible, and distribution should start in about two weeks. I'll be contacting everyone on Level 1 of the tree during the next fortnight. Feel free to contact your supplier now to start making arrangements amongst yourselves. 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ID Date Size 36750 Re: Classic Tree Update Steve Baker theancientritual Sun 10/20/2002 2 KB 36766 Re: Classic Tree Update Matthew Sawyer matthewsawyer Sun 10/20/2002 2 KB 37134 Classic Tree Update Matthew Sawyer matthewsawyer Sun 11/17/2002 3 KB 37144 Re: Classic Tree Update Fred Yargui fredyargui Mon 11/18/2002 3 KB 37149 Re: Classic Tree Update Matthew Sawyer matthewsawyer Mon 11/18/2002 2 KB 37150 Re: Classic Tree Update Fred Yargui fredyargui Mon 11/18/2002 2 KB From: 'Paul Dryden' Date: Sun Oct 20, 2002 9:17 am Subject: Re: [tadream] Guitar solos Zlatico Perica played on that CD and Turn of the Tides/Rockoon Paulus.d ----- Original Message ----- From: 'fozziebear' To: Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 6:48 PM Subject: [tadream] Guitar solos > I like the guitar work on the Purple Haze track..........in fact the whole track from 220 Volt Live. > > David > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > From: 'Steve Baker' Date: Sun Oct 20, 2002 12:06 pm Subject: Re: Classic Tree Update How many shn discs will be required if all seven shows are being traded? Thanks, Steve From: 'orangefunk_2000' Date: Sun Oct 20, 2002 12:14 pm Subject: Re: solos - Coltrane (off-topic) --- In tadream@y..., 'Admin' wrote: > BUT(!) after > > 1 or 2 minutes you can't descem what song he is playing at the moment. > > In the beginning you hear the original tunes, than 20 minutes of > > free interpretation and comming back in the end for 1 minute of > > memonzation what he was playing at the beginning. He is / was > > a genious but .... :-( > > I love TD (mostly 70s stuff) but c'mon I don't see how anyone can compare their improv to jazz improv. If what you are saying is that the listener should be able to discern what song is being played by just going to any point of the recording then I don't think this is really true at all. If there are any modern jazz musicians on this list hopefully they will concur that TDs music is inherently very simple, some nice slow chords (mostly minor 7) mostly in the same key, pentatonic solo over the top.. if you can point out anything that doesn't follow this and includes chord changes on every bar, big leaps in scales a'la Giant Steps in TDs repertoire then please point this out.. Don't get me wrong I'm kinda glad TDs music is simple. In fact the best music I've heard from them often just consists of one chord! ;- ) Come to think about it theres a lot of jazz (especially 70s) thats like that too.. IMHO the best improv work for me in tDs repertoire was on the Cyclone LP.. by Steve Joliffe!! Some lovely woodwind runs on that recording I can tell you.. Peace Orangefunk On another 'jazz' note does anyone think TDs output of the late 80s/early 90s was a bit smooth jazz (Lily on the Beach)?? From: 'Bill Fox' Date: Sun Oct 20, 2002 1:55 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] Bill Fox's Set Lists ----- Original Message ----- From: 'Admin' > I would like to see a list devoted to equipment heads along with a > discussion of the techniques to use the stuff to perform TD and beyond. > dale For gear talk, try gearhead. For techniques, try EM_Masterclass. Both are hosted at Yahoogroups. Cheers, Bill =============================================================================== Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic All times are GMT-5:00 To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emusic-wdiy and click on [Join This Group!] Host of the AM/FM Show on WMUH Allentown 91.7 FM every other Saturday at 6 am. Host of Afterglow on WMUH every Thursday morning from 8:00 to 9:30. http://soundscapes.us/~bill/amfm http://soundscapes.us/~bill/afterglow Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN Listen on-line to WMUH at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click REAL AUDIO Personal site: http://soundscapes.us/~bill All times are GMT-5:00 SOUNDSCAPES Concert Series: http://soundscapes.us From: 'corporalcripp' Date: Sun Oct 20, 2002 3:08 pm Subject: TT3 ?? What shows will be on TT3?-Bob Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36754 Re: TT3 ?? Matthew Sawyer matthewsawyer Sun 10/20/2002 2 KB 36755 TD 1969: Full length (!) End-Theme online ! Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Sun 10/20/2002 2 KB 36756 Re: TD 1969: Full length (!) End-Theme online ! Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36757 Re: TD 1969: Full length (!) End-Theme online ! Vince LeGrand legravin Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36760 Re: TD 1969: Full length (!) End-Theme online ! Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36762 TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Sun 10/20/2002 2 KB 36764 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Fred Yargui fredyargui Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36765 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36767 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Dave Brewer deibu1972 Sun 10/20/2002 2 KB From: 'Matthew Sawyer' Date: Sun Oct 20, 2002 4:22 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] TT3 ?? From: 'corporalcripp' > What shows will be on TT3?-Bob Confirmed concerts are Berlin PDR 1980, Shepherds Bush 2001, Detroit 1992 and Laguna Hills 1986. Hopefully some 1976 concerts will also be included. TT3 is due sometime after the new year. Maff _________________________________________________ www.tachyon-tv.co.uk www.tangent.da.ru www.mst3uk.com From: Rainer Rutka Date: Sun Oct 20, 2002 5:23 pm Subject: TD 1969: Full length (!) End-Theme online ! Hi! Because of public demand, I put the full version (!) of the 1969 TD track 'End Theme from 'Underground'' onto my site. Don`t foreget to register for the 'Auf Scheisser schiesst man nicht/ Underground' Video-/Music-CD before it`s too late. :-) Rainer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ www.rutka.de/td - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36756 Re: TD 1969: Full length (!) End-Theme online ! Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36757 Re: TD 1969: Full length (!) End-Theme online ! Vince LeGrand legravin Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36760 Re: TD 1969: Full length (!) End-Theme online ! Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36762 TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Sun 10/20/2002 2 KB 36764 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Fred Yargui fredyargui Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36765 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36767 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Dave Brewer deibu1972 Sun 10/20/2002 2 KB 36768 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36769 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Dave Brewer deibu1972 Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB From: Rainer Rutka Date: Sun Oct 20, 2002 5:33 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] TD 1969: Full length (!) End-Theme online ! On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Rainer Rutka wrote: > Because of public demand, I put the full version (!) of the > 1969 TD track 'End Theme from 'Underground'' onto my site. > Don`t foreget to register for the 'Auf Scheisser schiesst man nicht/ > Underground' Video-/Music-CD before it`s too late. BTW: Who is playing the violin? Who knows the members of the band? Is it Klaus Schulze on drums? :-) Rainer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ www.rutka.de/td - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From: Vince LeGrand Date: Sun Oct 20, 2002 6:03 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] TD 1969: Full length (!) End-Theme online ! Rainer, The link to the full version doesn't seem to be working. ----- Original Message ----- From: 'Rainer Rutka' To: Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [tadream] TD 1969: Full length (!) End-Theme online ! > On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Rainer Rutka wrote: > > > Because of public demand, I put the full version (!) of the > > 1969 TD track 'End Theme from 'Underground'' onto my site. > > Don`t foreget to register for the 'Auf Scheisser schiesst man nicht/ > > Underground' Video-/Music-CD before it`s too late. > > BTW: Who is playing the violin? > Who knows the members of the band? Is it Klaus Schulze on drums? > > :-) > Rainer > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > www.rutka.de/td > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36760 Re: TD 1969: Full length (!) End-Theme online ! Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36762 TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Sun 10/20/2002 2 KB 36764 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Fred Yargui fredyargui Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36765 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36767 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Dave Brewer deibu1972 Sun 10/20/2002 2 KB 36768 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36769 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Dave Brewer deibu1972 Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36777 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Antonio Nunes ajogon Mon 10/21/2002 2 KB 36773 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Vince LeGrand legravin Mon 10/21/2002 3 KB From: 'Fred Yargui' Date: Sun Oct 20, 2002 6:18 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] TD 1969: Full length (!) End-Theme online ! UNDERGROUND Hello again, Rainer ! Thanx for the explanations. I think I will reserve one set. I can send you my CDR-list if you want. I can send you paypal or cash otherwise. The link to the full version is still ill :-> And I prefer this music to the original electronic meditation :-) Cheers, Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: 'Rainer Rutka' To: Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 7:23 PM Subject: [tadream] TD 1969: Full length (!) End-Theme online ! > > Hi! > > Because of public demand, I put the full version (!) of the > 1969 TD track 'End Theme from 'Underground'' onto my site. > Don`t foreget to register for the 'Auf Scheisser schiesst man nicht/ > Underground' Video-/Music-CD before it`s too late. > > :-) > > Rainer > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > www.rutka.de/td > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36761 Re: TD 1969: Full length (!) End-Theme online ! UNDERGROUND Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 37308 Re: TD 1969: Full length (!) End-Theme online ! UNDERGROUND Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Mon 11/25/2002 3 KB From: 'Fred Yargui' Date: Sun Oct 20, 2002 6:19 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] TD 1969: Full length (!) End-Theme online ! oops, this was meant to go private. My apologies to all... Fred From: Rainer Rutka Date: Sun Oct 20, 2002 6:48 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] TD 1969: Full length (!) End-Theme online ! On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Vince LeGrand wrote: > Rainer, > The link to the full version doesn't seem to be working. Oh! OK, I will test ist and repair :-) Thanks for the message ! Rainer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Rainer Rutka E -Mail : rainer@k... 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End-Theme online!-WORKING- Antonio Nunes ajogon Mon 10/21/2002 2 KB 36773 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Vince LeGrand legravin Mon 10/21/2002 3 KB From: Rainer Rutka Date: Sun Oct 20, 2002 6:48 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] TD 1969: Full length (!) End-Theme online ! UNDERGROUND On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Fred Yargui wrote: > Hello again, Rainer ! > Thanx for the explanations. > I think I will reserve one set. I can send you my CDR-list if you want. > I can send you paypal or cash otherwise. OK, you are on the lsit. Details later. > The link to the full version is still ill :-> I will test it soon! > And I prefer this music to the original electronic meditation :-) Me 2! Rainer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ www.rutka.de/td - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From: Rainer Rutka Date: Sun Oct 20, 2002 6:58 pm Subject: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Rainer Rutka wrote: > On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Vince LeGrand wrote: > > Rainer, > > The link to the full version doesn't seem to be working. > Oh! > OK, I will test ist and repair :-) OK, I put the file (2,5 MB) onto my 2nd server. It's running now (hopefully). Test it! :-) Rainer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ www.rutka.de/td - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36764 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Fred Yargui fredyargui Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36765 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36767 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Dave Brewer deibu1972 Sun 10/20/2002 2 KB 36768 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36769 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Dave Brewer deibu1972 Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36777 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Antonio Nunes ajogon Mon 10/21/2002 2 KB 36773 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Vince LeGrand legravin Mon 10/21/2002 3 KB From: thomas.soucheleau@n... Date: Mon Oct 21, 2002 12:03 am Subject: Tr: Re: Re: [tadream] RE: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. I have the piece on the dream encores CD so I don't have those credits. But the guitar part definitely sounds like edgar's touch. thomas. ----Message réexpédié---- >A: >De: 'Paul Dryden' >Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 16:04:30 +0100 >Sujet: Re: Re: [tadream] RE: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. > >The solo on Elenor Rigby is someone called Mark Hornby, or thats what it >says on my Shepherds Bush CD! >I got it at the 1996 Shepherds Bush Empire concert >Paulus.d_uk > >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 12:54 PM >Subject: Tr: Re: [tadream] RE: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. > > >Yes, Hamlet is simply brilliant. And So is the solo on the eleanor rigby >cover. > > >----Message réexpédié---- >>A: tadream@yahoogroups.com >>De: 'John Vertical' >>Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 11:19:16 +0300 >>Sujet: Re: [tadream] RE: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. >> >> >> >> >> >>>From: Synthhtnys@a... >>> > Pergammon Part Two - Love it. >>> > >>> > This and Coldwater Canyon are probably my favourite tracks of all time. >>> > >>> > Both very similar in style. >>> > >>> >>>*I would agree that these two were Edgars finest hour on the guitar.... >>>Poly >> >> >>Coldwater Canyon is simply excellent for the first 3 minutes and the last 6 >>minutes, but the mid-section lacks energy. (And am I the only one who does >>believe it's a live track? Is there any proof it isn't?) >> >>With Quitzotte pt 2 (fave spelling) and also with Monolith and TT1 pt 2, >>probably others too, it takes me about 5-7 minutes to get into the solo. I >>remember nothing from those first solo halves, but the end halves seem to >be >>much more innovative. >> >>Of course Ricochet, Cloudburst Flight, Green Desert, Bondy Parade, most of >>Underwater Sunlight, Cool Breeze of Brighton, and finally Hamlet are great >>too... >> >>John Vertical >> >>np: Rubycon pt 1 >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Broadband? Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. >>http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp >> >> >>----------------------------------------------------_- >>To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >>----------------------------------------------------_- >>Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at >>http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ >> >>Tangerine Tree info at >>http://www.tadream.net/tree >> >>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >> >> >> > >------------------------------------------------------------- >NetCourrier, votre bureau virtuel sur Internet : Mail, Agenda, Clubs, >Toolbar... >Web/Wap : www.netcourrier.com >Téléphone/Fax : 08 92 69 00 21 (0,34 ? TTC/min) >Minitel: 3615 NETCOURRIER (0,15 ? TTC/min) > > >----------------------------------------------------_- >To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >----------------------------------------------------_- >Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at >http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > >Tangerine Tree info at >http://www.tadream.net/tree > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------_- >To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >----------------------------------------------------_- >Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at >http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > >Tangerine Tree info at >http://www.tadream.net/tree > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- NetCourrier, votre bureau virtuel sur Internet : Mail, Agenda, Clubs, Toolbar... Web/Wap : www.netcourrier.com Téléphone/Fax : 08 92 69 00 21 (0,34 € TTC/min) Minitel: 3615 NETCOURRIER (0,15 € TTC/min) From: ampmusic Date: Sat Oct 19, 2002 12:09 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] Digest Number 1537 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: fozziebear > To: > Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 12:08 PM > Subject: [tadream] Programme project > > > Toby, was there a UK 80 programme? Looking through my stuff I can't find > one and I probably would have got one if there was one. > > > > I just looked through the UK 86 and it had a good quote from John Peel of > Sounds 'T.Dream or not T.Dream?- They have made the music the star of the > show, not the musicians and not the means of making the music. A new > creative energy' > > > > If the rest of you haven't looked at an 86 programme you might like the > other quotes regarding Thief and one on Poland from a Mark Jenkins of Melody Maker. > > > > David Wot, THIS Mark Jenkins? :-) http://www.markjenkins.net Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36740 Re: Digest Number 1537 fozziebear fozziebearbeehive Sat 10/19/2002 2 KB From: 'John Vertical' Date: Sat Oct 19, 2002 2:25 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] Coldwater Canyon >Cherokee Lane and Monolight are slightly re-edited versions of the >April 4 Washington, DC U.S.A Lisner Auditorium show I agree with Monolight (99% the same) but is 4.4. really the version of Cherokee Lane that resembles the released version the most? Since I only can hear a few similarities (the very beginning, few Mellotron clips). >Desert Dream is basically a studio remix of the 'Zeus' part of the Oedipus >Tyrannus concert, performed on 1974.08.18 and broadcast on the radio on the >22nd and 29th. There are, of course, new bits added including the pleasant >'anthem' around the 12-13 minute mark and added sequences here and there. > >-Morgan Is the small end clip, the one that got used on Stereolight, found from any live show? And same with Ricochet Part 1 too - has any tape got the rest of the piece, besides the robust intro chords from TT vol. 7? John Vertical _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free!  Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp From: 'Paul Dryden' Date: Sat Oct 19, 2002 3:04 pm Subject: Re: Re: [tadream] RE: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. The solo on Elenor Rigby is someone called Mark Hornby, or thats what it says on my Shepherds Bush CD! I got it at the 1996 Shepherds Bush Empire concert Paulus.d_uk ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 12:54 PM Subject: Tr: Re: [tadream] RE: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. Yes, Hamlet is simply brilliant. And So is the solo on the eleanor rigby cover. ----Message réexpédié---- >A: tadream@yahoogroups.com >De: 'John Vertical' >Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 11:19:16 +0300 >Sujet: Re: [tadream] RE: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. > > > > > >>From: Synthhtnys@a... >> > Pergammon Part Two - Love it. >> > >> > This and Coldwater Canyon are probably my favourite tracks of all time. >> > >> > Both very similar in style. >> > >> >>*I would agree that these two were Edgars finest hour on the guitar.... >>Poly > > >Coldwater Canyon is simply excellent for the first 3 minutes and the last 6 >minutes, but the mid-section lacks energy. (And am I the only one who does >believe it's a live track? Is there any proof it isn't?) > >With Quitzotte pt 2 (fave spelling) and also with Monolith and TT1 pt 2, >probably others too, it takes me about 5-7 minutes to get into the solo. I >remember nothing from those first solo halves, but the end halves seem to be >much more innovative. > >Of course Ricochet, Cloudburst Flight, Green Desert, Bondy Parade, most of >Underwater Sunlight, Cool Breeze of Brighton, and finally Hamlet are great >too... > >John Vertical > >np: Rubycon pt 1 > >_________________________________________________________________ >Broadband? Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. >http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > >----------------------------------------------------_- >To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >----------------------------------------------------_- >Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at >http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > >Tangerine Tree info at >http://www.tadream.net/tree > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- NetCourrier, votre bureau virtuel sur Internet : Mail, Agenda, Clubs, Toolbar... Web/Wap : www.netcourrier.com Téléphone/Fax : 08 92 69 00 21 (0,34 ? TTC/min) Minitel: 3615 NETCOURRIER (0,15 ? TTC/min) ----------------------------------------------------_- To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ----------------------------------------------------_- Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ Tangerine Tree info at http://www.tadream.net/tree Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36743 Re: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. Jonathan Holt plantpot_73 Sat 10/19/2002 5 KB From: 'fozziebear' Date: Sat Oct 19, 2002 5:46 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] Digest Number 1537 > > > If the rest of you haven't looked at an 86 programme you might like the > > other quotes regarding Thief and one on Poland from a Mark Jenkins of Melody Maker. > > > > > > David > > Wot, THIS Mark Jenkins? :-) > > http://www.markjenkins.net I don't know, that's what I thought someone might be able to answer. The quote from the Mark Jenkins of Melody Maker was 'Live in Poland shows how the most advanced computer music technology in the world can produce accessible, exciting and expressive music.' David From: 'fozziebear' Date: Sat Oct 19, 2002 5:48 pm Subject: Guitar solos I like the guitar work on the Purple Haze track..........in fact the whole track from 220 Volt Live. David [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36749 Re: Guitar solos Paul Dryden paulus_d2002 Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB From: 'Admin' Date: Sat Oct 19, 2002 5:59 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Paul Lawler Be sure to dress up for a bit of the nip in the air in April.... Where? dale ----- Original Message ----- From: 'vic rek' To: Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Paul Lawler > Yes, and all of these 'musicians' will be attending the Ricochet Gathering > at the Mojave Desert in April of 2003. Details are in the works for the > final line-up which will feature a few well known EM bands I must say ... > :-) > > As for Edgar - ya - He will 'be there' too :-) > > Vic > > From: 'Kees Aerts / Groove Unlimited' > > >From: 'Falcon' > > >To: > > > > >Yes I am both 'Arcane' and 'Max van richter' as well as myself now > and > > >again > > > > >;) > > > > > > > > Oh, i see, a split personality. Maybe you're also Edgar Froese. . . > you > > > > never know ;-)))) > > > > > > > > Ramon > > > > > >ahem ! ;) > > > > yes, it's him. > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > From: Jonathan Holt Date: Sat Oct 19, 2002 6:09 pm Subject: Re: Re: [tadream] RE: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. Didn't Mark Hornby play on parts of Tyranny Of Beauty too? --- Paul Dryden wrote: > The solo on Elenor Rigby is someone called Mark > Hornby, or thats what it > says on my Shepherds Bush CD! > I got it at the 1996 Shepherds Bush Empire concert > Paulus.d_uk > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 12:54 PM > Subject: Tr: Re: [tadream] RE: Edgar's guitar solos, > etc. > > > Yes, Hamlet is simply brilliant. And So is the solo > on the eleanor rigby > cover. > > > ----Message réexpédié---- > >A: tadream@yahoogroups.com > >De: 'John Vertical' > >Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 11:19:16 +0300 > >Sujet: Re: [tadream] RE: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > >>From: Synthhtnys@a... > >> > Pergammon Part Two - Love it. > >> > > >> > This and Coldwater Canyon are probably my > favourite tracks of all time. > >> > > >> > Both very similar in style. > >> > > >> > >>*I would agree that these two were Edgars finest > hour on the guitar.... > >>Poly > > > > > >Coldwater Canyon is simply excellent for the first > 3 minutes and the last 6 > >minutes, but the mid-section lacks energy. (And am > I the only one who does > >believe it's a live track? Is there any proof it > isn't?) > > > >With Quitzotte pt 2 (fave spelling) and also with > Monolith and TT1 pt 2, > >probably others too, it takes me about 5-7 minutes > to get into the solo. I > >remember nothing from those first solo halves, but > the end halves seem to > be > >much more innovative. > > > >Of course Ricochet, Cloudburst Flight, Green > Desert, Bondy Parade, most of > >Underwater Sunlight, Cool Breeze of Brighton, and > finally Hamlet are great > >too... > > > >John Vertical > > > >np: Rubycon pt 1 > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Broadband? Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet > Access. > >http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------_- > >To unsubscribe: > mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > >----------------------------------------------------_- > >Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > >http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > > >Tangerine Tree info at > >http://www.tadream.net/tree > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > NetCourrier, votre bureau virtuel sur Internet : > Mail, Agenda, Clubs, > Toolbar... > Web/Wap : www.netcourrier.com > Téléphone/Fax : 08 92 69 00 21 (0,34 ? TTC/min) > Minitel: 3615 NETCOURRIER (0,15 ? TTC/min) > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: > mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: > mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca From: 'vic rek' Date: Sat Oct 19, 2002 9:59 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Paul Lawler About 22 miles west of Searchlight Nevada... ;-) Yes, must bring a sweater for the evenings... From: Admin > Be sure to dress up for a bit of the nip in the air in April.... > Where? > Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Paul Lawler > > Yes, and all of these 'musicians' will be attending the Ricochet Gathering > > at the Mojave Desert in April of 2003. Details are in the works for the > > final line-up which will feature a few well known EM bands I must say ... > > :-) > > > > As for Edgar - ya - He will 'be there' too :-) > > > > Vic From: Chris Richards Date: Sat Oct 19, 2002 7:52 pm Subject: Re: solos <<> You have to have major respect for anyone who can solo for 10+ > minutes on the same chords and still have your interest by the end! Yes, Neil Young can do this, too :_) >> There are plenty of musicians who've done that. Listen to any of the live recordings of John Coltrane, where he'd stretch songs out to ten or more minutes. During the last year or two of his life, he was stretching songs out to upwards of an hour. ===== May you never thirst! The Scuba Diver Presently Known As Chris 'What do you get when you give a yo-yo to a flock of flamingos?'-James Earl Jones __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36746 Re: solos - Coltrane (off-topic) Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Sat 10/19/2002 3 KB 36747 Re: solos - Coltrane (off-topic) Admin dale1kay Sat 10/19/2002 4 KB 36751 Re: solos - Coltrane (off-topic) orangefunk_2000 orangefunk_2000 Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB From: Rainer Rutka Date: Sat Oct 19, 2002 10:15 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: solos - Coltrane (off-topic) On Sat, 19 Oct 2002, Chris Richards wrote: > There are plenty of musicians who've done that. > Listen to any of the live recordings of John > Coltrane, where he'd stretch songs out to ten or > more minutes. During the last year or two of his > life, he was stretching songs out to upwards of > an hour. Well, I don't agree because of John Coltrane. Yes - he'd stretch songs out to 20+ minutes and more (e.G. 'Summertime'). BUT(!) after 1 or 2 minutes you can't descem what song he is playing at the moment. In the beginning you hear the original tunes, than 20 minutes of free interpretation and comming back in the end for 1 minute of memonzation what he was playing at the beginning. He is / was a genious but .... :-( (sorry this is off-topic!) :_( Rainer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ www.rutka.de/td - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36747 Re: solos - Coltrane (off-topic) Admin dale1kay Sat 10/19/2002 4 KB 36751 Re: solos - Coltrane (off-topic) orangefunk_2000 orangefunk_2000 Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB From: 'Admin' Date: Sat Oct 19, 2002 10:38 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: solos - Coltrane (off-topic) BUT(!) after > 1 or 2 minutes you can't descem what song he is playing at the moment. > In the beginning you hear the original tunes, than 20 minutes of > free interpretation and comming back in the end for 1 minute of > memonzation what he was playing at the beginning. He is / was > a genious but .... :-( > Being able to know what tune you are soloing is a talent. Soloing is great but like you pointed out, if you forget the melody or the tune while listening to the solo, then have it swing back on you in the end does leave something desirable. While others might find this great, in the example of guitar players and their followers, others find this more of a distraction. Using classical roots, much like Edgar does on occasion, has show a excellent example of taking a minimalist view in this fine art. However, there are occasions when even the 'Great Edgar' has embellish the art of soling to a extreme. Much to my dismay. Not that I do not enjoy finding out that someone here on the list listens to John Coltrane or even Jazz.... (pleasant surprise) I find myself reinvestigating this lost art of soloing. (I won't even tell you how I hate setting up the equipment for my wife's band when she has a few guitar players who use the same solo no matter what song is being performed).(Just to be a thorn, I did offer once to record the solo and give them a rest thereafter when it was needed since it was going to be the same everytime in every song, I could just push play and they can practice those great air guitar moves). dale ----- Original Message ----- From: 'Rainer Rutka' To: Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: solos - Coltrane (off-topic) Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36751 Re: solos - Coltrane (off-topic) orangefunk_2000 orangefunk_2000 Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB From: 'Matthew Sawyer' Date: Sat Oct 19, 2002 11:53 pm Subject: Classic Tree Update Time for an update on the progress of the Classic Tree project. I've finished the tree structure today and if you head over to the database page you'll find your branch assignments. (Those of you having problems viewing the database may want to try logging into Yahoo groups first). You can also see your branch and tree level on this page: www.matthewsawyer.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/bin/CTlevels.htm Please check your entry in the database to make sure everything is correct. I've tried to keep everyone's supplier as local as possible. If you have a problem with your branch assignment, contact me off-list and I'll try to make alternative arrangements for you. I've locked the database for the time being. If you need to amend your information, contact me off-list. You'll be able to update your entry to 'received' after the discs start being sent out. I'll be seeding the tree with about 150 discs to get things moving as fast as possible, and distribution should start in about two weeks. I'll be contacting everyone on Level 1 of the tree during the next fortnight. Feel free to contact your supplier now to start making arrangements amongst yourselves. 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ID Date Size 36750 Re: Classic Tree Update Steve Baker theancientritual Sun 10/20/2002 2 KB 36766 Re: Classic Tree Update Matthew Sawyer matthewsawyer Sun 10/20/2002 2 KB 37134 Classic Tree Update Matthew Sawyer matthewsawyer Sun 11/17/2002 3 KB 37144 Re: Classic Tree Update Fred Yargui fredyargui Mon 11/18/2002 3 KB 37149 Re: Classic Tree Update Matthew Sawyer matthewsawyer Mon 11/18/2002 2 KB 37150 Re: Classic Tree Update Fred Yargui fredyargui Mon 11/18/2002 2 KB From: 'Paul Dryden' Date: Sun Oct 20, 2002 9:17 am Subject: Re: [tadream] Guitar solos Zlatico Perica played on that CD and Turn of the Tides/Rockoon Paulus.d ----- Original Message ----- From: 'fozziebear' To: Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 6:48 PM Subject: [tadream] Guitar solos > I like the guitar work on the Purple Haze track..........in fact the whole track from 220 Volt Live. > > David > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > From: 'Steve Baker' Date: Sun Oct 20, 2002 12:06 pm Subject: Re: Classic Tree Update How many shn discs will be required if all seven shows are being traded? Thanks, Steve From: 'orangefunk_2000' Date: Sun Oct 20, 2002 12:14 pm Subject: Re: solos - Coltrane (off-topic) --- In tadream@y..., 'Admin' wrote: > BUT(!) after > > 1 or 2 minutes you can't descem what song he is playing at the moment. > > In the beginning you hear the original tunes, than 20 minutes of > > free interpretation and comming back in the end for 1 minute of > > memonzation what he was playing at the beginning. He is / was > > a genious but .... :-( > > I love TD (mostly 70s stuff) but c'mon I don't see how anyone can compare their improv to jazz improv. If what you are saying is that the listener should be able to discern what song is being played by just going to any point of the recording then I don't think this is really true at all. If there are any modern jazz musicians on this list hopefully they will concur that TDs music is inherently very simple, some nice slow chords (mostly minor 7) mostly in the same key, pentatonic solo over the top.. if you can point out anything that doesn't follow this and includes chord changes on every bar, big leaps in scales a'la Giant Steps in TDs repertoire then please point this out.. Don't get me wrong I'm kinda glad TDs music is simple. In fact the best music I've heard from them often just consists of one chord! ;- ) Come to think about it theres a lot of jazz (especially 70s) thats like that too.. IMHO the best improv work for me in tDs repertoire was on the Cyclone LP.. by Steve Joliffe!! Some lovely woodwind runs on that recording I can tell you.. Peace Orangefunk On another 'jazz' note does anyone think TDs output of the late 80s/early 90s was a bit smooth jazz (Lily on the Beach)?? From: 'Bill Fox' Date: Sun Oct 20, 2002 1:55 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] Bill Fox's Set Lists ----- Original Message ----- From: 'Admin' > I would like to see a list devoted to equipment heads along with a > discussion of the techniques to use the stuff to perform TD and beyond. > dale For gear talk, try gearhead. For techniques, try EM_Masterclass. Both are hosted at Yahoogroups. Cheers, Bill =============================================================================== Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic All times are GMT-5:00 To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emusic-wdiy and click on [Join This Group!] Host of the AM/FM Show on WMUH Allentown 91.7 FM every other Saturday at 6 am. Host of Afterglow on WMUH every Thursday morning from 8:00 to 9:30. http://soundscapes.us/~bill/amfm http://soundscapes.us/~bill/afterglow Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN Listen on-line to WMUH at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click REAL AUDIO Personal site: http://soundscapes.us/~bill All times are GMT-5:00 SOUNDSCAPES Concert Series: http://soundscapes.us From: 'corporalcripp' Date: Sun Oct 20, 2002 3:08 pm Subject: TT3 ?? What shows will be on TT3?-Bob Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36754 Re: TT3 ?? Matthew Sawyer matthewsawyer Sun 10/20/2002 2 KB 36755 TD 1969: Full length (!) End-Theme online ! Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Sun 10/20/2002 2 KB 36756 Re: TD 1969: Full length (!) End-Theme online ! Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36757 Re: TD 1969: Full length (!) End-Theme online ! Vince LeGrand legravin Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36760 Re: TD 1969: Full length (!) End-Theme online ! Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36762 TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Sun 10/20/2002 2 KB 36764 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Fred Yargui fredyargui Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36765 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36767 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Dave Brewer deibu1972 Sun 10/20/2002 2 KB From: 'Matthew Sawyer' Date: Sun Oct 20, 2002 4:22 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] TT3 ?? From: 'corporalcripp' > What shows will be on TT3?-Bob Confirmed concerts are Berlin PDR 1980, Shepherds Bush 2001, Detroit 1992 and Laguna Hills 1986. Hopefully some 1976 concerts will also be included. TT3 is due sometime after the new year. Maff _________________________________________________ www.tachyon-tv.co.uk www.tangent.da.ru www.mst3uk.com From: Rainer Rutka Date: Sun Oct 20, 2002 5:23 pm Subject: TD 1969: Full length (!) End-Theme online ! Hi! Because of public demand, I put the full version (!) of the 1969 TD track 'End Theme from 'Underground'' onto my site. Don`t foreget to register for the 'Auf Scheisser schiesst man nicht/ Underground' Video-/Music-CD before it`s too late. :-) Rainer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ www.rutka.de/td - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36756 Re: TD 1969: Full length (!) End-Theme online ! Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36757 Re: TD 1969: Full length (!) End-Theme online ! Vince LeGrand legravin Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36760 Re: TD 1969: Full length (!) End-Theme online ! Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36762 TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Sun 10/20/2002 2 KB 36764 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Fred Yargui fredyargui Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36765 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36767 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Dave Brewer deibu1972 Sun 10/20/2002 2 KB 36768 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36769 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Dave Brewer deibu1972 Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB From: Rainer Rutka Date: Sun Oct 20, 2002 5:33 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] TD 1969: Full length (!) End-Theme online ! On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Rainer Rutka wrote: > Because of public demand, I put the full version (!) of the > 1969 TD track 'End Theme from 'Underground'' onto my site. > Don`t foreget to register for the 'Auf Scheisser schiesst man nicht/ > Underground' Video-/Music-CD before it`s too late. BTW: Who is playing the violin? Who knows the members of the band? Is it Klaus Schulze on drums? :-) Rainer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ www.rutka.de/td - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From: Vince LeGrand Date: Sun Oct 20, 2002 6:03 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] TD 1969: Full length (!) End-Theme online ! Rainer, The link to the full version doesn't seem to be working. ----- Original Message ----- From: 'Rainer Rutka' To: Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [tadream] TD 1969: Full length (!) End-Theme online ! > On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Rainer Rutka wrote: > > > Because of public demand, I put the full version (!) of the > > 1969 TD track 'End Theme from 'Underground'' onto my site. > > Don`t foreget to register for the 'Auf Scheisser schiesst man nicht/ > > Underground' Video-/Music-CD before it`s too late. > > BTW: Who is playing the violin? > Who knows the members of the band? Is it Klaus Schulze on drums? > > :-) > Rainer > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > www.rutka.de/td > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36760 Re: TD 1969: Full length (!) End-Theme online ! Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36762 TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Sun 10/20/2002 2 KB 36764 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Fred Yargui fredyargui Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36765 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36767 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Dave Brewer deibu1972 Sun 10/20/2002 2 KB 36768 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36769 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Dave Brewer deibu1972 Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36777 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Antonio Nunes ajogon Mon 10/21/2002 2 KB 36773 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Vince LeGrand legravin Mon 10/21/2002 3 KB From: 'Fred Yargui' Date: Sun Oct 20, 2002 6:18 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] TD 1969: Full length (!) End-Theme online ! UNDERGROUND Hello again, Rainer ! Thanx for the explanations. I think I will reserve one set. I can send you my CDR-list if you want. I can send you paypal or cash otherwise. The link to the full version is still ill :-> And I prefer this music to the original electronic meditation :-) Cheers, Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: 'Rainer Rutka' To: Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 7:23 PM Subject: [tadream] TD 1969: Full length (!) End-Theme online ! > > Hi! > > Because of public demand, I put the full version (!) of the > 1969 TD track 'End Theme from 'Underground'' onto my site. > Don`t foreget to register for the 'Auf Scheisser schiesst man nicht/ > Underground' Video-/Music-CD before it`s too late. > > :-) > > Rainer > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > www.rutka.de/td > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36761 Re: TD 1969: Full length (!) End-Theme online ! UNDERGROUND Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 37308 Re: TD 1969: Full length (!) End-Theme online ! UNDERGROUND Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Mon 11/25/2002 3 KB From: 'Fred Yargui' Date: Sun Oct 20, 2002 6:19 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] TD 1969: Full length (!) End-Theme online ! oops, this was meant to go private. My apologies to all... Fred From: Rainer Rutka Date: Sun Oct 20, 2002 6:48 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] TD 1969: Full length (!) End-Theme online ! On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Vince LeGrand wrote: > Rainer, > The link to the full version doesn't seem to be working. Oh! OK, I will test ist and repair :-) Thanks for the message ! Rainer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Rainer Rutka E -Mail : rainer@k... 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End-Theme online!-WORKING- Antonio Nunes ajogon Mon 10/21/2002 2 KB 36773 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Vince LeGrand legravin Mon 10/21/2002 3 KB From: Rainer Rutka Date: Sun Oct 20, 2002 6:48 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] TD 1969: Full length (!) End-Theme online ! UNDERGROUND On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Fred Yargui wrote: > Hello again, Rainer ! > Thanx for the explanations. > I think I will reserve one set. I can send you my CDR-list if you want. > I can send you paypal or cash otherwise. OK, you are on the lsit. Details later. > The link to the full version is still ill :-> I will test it soon! > And I prefer this music to the original electronic meditation :-) Me 2! Rainer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ www.rutka.de/td - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From: Rainer Rutka Date: Sun Oct 20, 2002 6:58 pm Subject: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Rainer Rutka wrote: > On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Vince LeGrand wrote: > > Rainer, > > The link to the full version doesn't seem to be working. > Oh! > OK, I will test ist and repair :-) OK, I put the file (2,5 MB) onto my 2nd server. It's running now (hopefully). Test it! :-) Rainer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ www.rutka.de/td - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36764 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Fred Yargui fredyargui Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36765 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36767 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Dave Brewer deibu1972 Sun 10/20/2002 2 KB 36768 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36769 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Dave Brewer deibu1972 Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB 36777 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Antonio Nunes ajogon Mon 10/21/2002 2 KB 36773 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Vince LeGrand legravin Mon 10/21/2002 3 KB From: thomas.soucheleau@n... Date: Mon Oct 21, 2002 12:03 am Subject: Tr: Re: Re: [tadream] RE: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. I have the piece on the dream encores CD so I don't have those credits. But the guitar part definitely sounds like edgar's touch. thomas. ----Message réexpédié---- >A: >De: 'Paul Dryden' >Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 16:04:30 +0100 >Sujet: Re: Re: [tadream] RE: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. > >The solo on Elenor Rigby is someone called Mark Hornby, or thats what it >says on my Shepherds Bush CD! >I got it at the 1996 Shepherds Bush Empire concert >Paulus.d_uk > >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 12:54 PM >Subject: Tr: Re: [tadream] RE: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. > > >Yes, Hamlet is simply brilliant. And So is the solo on the eleanor rigby >cover. > > >----Message réexpédié---- >>A: tadream@yahoogroups.com >>De: 'John Vertical' >>Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 11:19:16 +0300 >>Sujet: Re: [tadream] RE: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. >> >> >> >> >> >>>From: Synthhtnys@a... >>> > Pergammon Part Two - Love it. >>> > >>> > This and Coldwater Canyon are probably my favourite tracks of all time. >>> > >>> > Both very similar in style. >>> > >>> >>>*I would agree that these two were Edgars finest hour on the guitar.... >>>Poly >> >> >>Coldwater Canyon is simply excellent for the first 3 minutes and the last 6 >>minutes, but the mid-section lacks energy. (And am I the only one who does >>believe it's a live track? Is there any proof it isn't?) >> >>With Quitzotte pt 2 (fave spelling) and also with Monolith and TT1 pt 2, >>probably others too, it takes me about 5-7 minutes to get into the solo. I >>remember nothing from those first solo halves, but the end halves seem to >be >>much more innovative. >> >>Of course Ricochet, Cloudburst Flight, Green Desert, Bondy Parade, most of >>Underwater Sunlight, Cool Breeze of Brighton, and finally Hamlet are great >>too... >> >>John Vertical >> >>np: Rubycon pt 1 >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Broadband? Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. >>http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp >> >> >>----------------------------------------------------_- >>To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >>----------------------------------------------------_- >>Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at >>http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ >> >>Tangerine Tree info at >>http://www.tadream.net/tree >> >>Your use of Yahoo! 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Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------_- >To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >----------------------------------------------------_- >Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at >http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > >Tangerine Tree info at >http://www.tadream.net/tree > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- NetCourrier, votre bureau virtuel sur Internet : Mail, Agenda, Clubs, Toolbar... Web/Wap : www.netcourrier.com Téléphone/Fax : 08 92 69 00 21 (0,34 € TTC/min) Minitel: 3615 NETCOURRIER (0,15 € TTC/min) From: 'Fred Yargui' Date: Sun Oct 20, 2002 7:04 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Ok, it works ;o) ========================== Yes, this is Edgar (on the left side!) And who is on the right side ;o))) ? ============================= Best Regards, Fred np : Tangerine_Dream_Band-End_Titles_from_Underground_full ----- Original Message ----- From: 'Rainer Rutka' To: Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 8:58 PM Subject: [tadream] TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- > On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Rainer Rutka wrote: > > > On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Vince LeGrand wrote: > > > Rainer, > > > The link to the full version doesn't seem to be working. > > Oh! > > OK, I will test ist and repair :-) > > OK, I put the file (2,5 MB) onto my 2nd server. > It's running now (hopefully). Test it! > > :-) > > Rainer > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > www.rutka.de/td > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36765 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB From: Rainer Rutka Date: Sun Oct 20, 2002 7:09 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Fred Yargui wrote: > Ok, it works ;o) > ========================== > Yes, this is Edgar (on the left side!) > And who is on the right side ;o))) ? > ============================= Good question :-) As soon as I know more, it on the page. A good friend of mine, is very well into old 60ies films. He is assembling some info-material (he just found some!) about this piece of history. And again: Who are the members of the band? Is somebody out, who knows more? > np : Tangerine_Dream_Band-End_Titles_from_Underground_full dumm dum dumm dumm dum dum dum dummdumm dum dum dum tab tab da da ... :-))) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ www.rutka.de/td - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From: 'Matthew Sawyer' Date: Sun Oct 20, 2002 7:10 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Classic Tree Update From: 'Steve Baker' > How many shn discs will be required if all seven shows are being > traded? The SHN discs are still being prepared so I can't say for definate. Probably 6 or 7. Maff From: 'Dave Brewer' Date: Sun Oct 20, 2002 7:30 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Rainer asked: >And again: Who are the members of the band? >Is somebody out, who knows more? I could be totally off on this, but I thought I read somewhere that the very first incarnation of TD had some of the members from The Ones in it still. That could explain the violin and the bluesy sound of this tune. Heh, if this is the case, maybe they should have called themselved 'The New Ones'. :-) Thank you for sharing this bit of TD history, Rainer! Dave B. (back to lurking...) Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36768 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Sun 10/20/2002 3 KB From: Rainer Rutka Date: Sun Oct 20, 2002 7:33 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Dave Brewer wrote: > >And again: Who are the members of the band? > >Is somebody out, who knows more? > I could be totally off on this, but I thought I read somewhere that the very > first incarnation of TD had some of the members from The Ones in it still. > That could explain the violin and the bluesy sound of this tune. Heh, if > this is the case, maybe they should have called themselved 'The New Ones'. > :-) Sounds locial! And the name of the band was : THE Tangerine Dream BAND (this is written on the end-credits of the film). So we have: The Ones The Tangerine Dream Band Tangerine Dream Not too much names in nearly 33 years :-) So you think, it's not Klaus Schulze on drums? Or Conny Schitzler on violin? Rainer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ www.rutka.de/td - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From: 'Dave Brewer' Date: Sun Oct 20, 2002 8:14 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Rainer Said: >So we have: > >The Ones >The Tangerine Dream Band >Tangerine Dream > >Not too much names in nearly 33 years :-) >So you think, it's not Klaus Schulze on drums? Or Conny Schitzler on >violin? Heh, they haven't changed their name as many times as Spinal Tap did, eh? :-) Is there an exact release date on Underground? Klaus and Conny joined Edgar in the later part of 1969, I think. I'm going out on a limb, with very little info other than what I'm hearing on these tunes from Underground and the Ones single, and say that it is practically The Ones, but without Charly Prince since there isn't any real vocal performance. This is just pure speculation of course. For everyone that's listened to this end title music... Have you noticed that the bass line is quite similar to the bass line in the early part of Ricochet Part 1, only sped up with an additional note added and adding chord changes? I suppose it's not that special of a bass line, but it was something that came to my mind as I was listening... Dave B. (haven't posted twice in one day for a long time...) Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36777 Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Antonio Nunes ajogon Mon 10/21/2002 2 KB From: 'Paul Lawler' Date: Sun Oct 20, 2002 8:57 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Paul Lawler Is it really cold in Nevada during April because it was bloody hot in early May ? Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: 'vic rek' To: Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Paul Lawler > About 22 miles west of Searchlight Nevada... ;-) > Yes, must bring a sweater for the evenings... > > From: Admin > > > > Be sure to dress up for a bit of the nip in the air in April.... > > Where? > > > Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Paul Lawler > > > > Yes, and all of these 'musicians' will be attending the Ricochet > Gathering > > > at the Mojave Desert in April of 2003. Details are in the works for the > > > final line-up which will feature a few well known EM bands I must say > ... > > > :-) > > > > > > As for Edgar - ya - He will 'be there' too :-) > > > > > > Vic > > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > From: Date: Sun Oct 20, 2002 11:28 pm Subject: Various Records Was wasting some time in my local records store and came across something curious. I did not know that the original vinyl release for Cyclone was a foldout gatefold cover. Anyway, these are the records I found: Cyclone - V2097 Force Majeure - OVED 111 Tangram - vi2147 EF Solo 1974 - 1979 - V2197 Is there anyone out there that might find these interesting? Should I offer them here first, or just go to Ebay? Anyone knows what they are worth, if anything? Thanks Neal [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From: 'Admin' Date: Sun Oct 20, 2002 11:56 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Paul Lawler Temperature extremes in the desert are not uncommon. Yes it gets cool, down right cold in April. I am going to make a assumption that a map will follow to where? I don't like wondering in or near Death Valley much. Just about everyone out there uses my ISP system to get on the Internet so it not that unfamiliar to me, the area that is. Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: 'Paul Lawler' To: Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Paul Lawler > Is it really cold in Nevada during April because it was bloody hot in early > May ? > > > Paul > ----- Original Message ----- > From: 'vic rek' > To: > Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 10:59 PM > Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Paul Lawler > > > > About 22 miles west of Searchlight Nevada... ;-) > > Yes, must bring a sweater for the evenings... > > > > From: Admin > > > > > > > Be sure to dress up for a bit of the nip in the air in April.... > > > Where? > > > > > Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Paul Lawler > > > > > > Yes, and all of these 'musicians' will be attending the Ricochet > > Gathering > > > > at the Mojave Desert in April of 2003. Details are in the works for > the > > > > final line-up which will feature a few well known EM bands I must say > > ... > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > As for Edgar - ya - He will 'be there' too :-) > > > > > > > > Vic > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > > > Tangerine Tree info at > > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > From: Vince LeGrand Date: Mon Oct 21, 2002 12:28 am Subject: Re: [tadream] TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- Thanks, Rainer. The link is working fine now. ----- Original Message ----- From: 'Rainer Rutka' To: Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 2:58 PM Subject: [tadream] TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- > On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Rainer Rutka wrote: > > > On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Vince LeGrand wrote: > > > Rainer, > > > The link to the full version doesn't seem to be working. > > Oh! > > OK, I will test ist and repair :-) > > OK, I put the file (2,5 MB) onto my 2nd server. > It's running now (hopefully). Test it! > > :-) > > Rainer > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > www.rutka.de/td > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > From: Heiko Heerssen Date: Mon Oct 21, 2002 6:28 am Subject: Re: [tadream] Coldwater Canyon > > And same with Ricochet Part 1 too - has any tape got the rest of the piece, > besides the robust intro chords from TT vol. 7? well Edgar might have it ;-) As far as I know the music for 'Richochet Part 1' originates from their French tour (September 1975), of which only one fantape exists (Reims September 23rd) But the music on this tape has nothing to do with Ricochet Part 1. Heiko From: Armin Theissen Date: Mon Oct 21, 2002 9:28 am Subject: Re: [tadream] RE: Edgar's guitar solos, etc. ...apart from 'Thru Metamorphic Rocks'... ;-) ;-) armin Synthhtnys@a... wrote: > In a message dated 10/18/2002 12:45:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > KevinBall@T... writes: > > > >>Pergammon Part Two - Love it. >> >>This and Coldwater Canyon are probably my favourite tracks of all time. >> >>Both very similar in style. >> >> > > *I would agree that these two were Edgars finest hour on the guitar.... > Poly > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Armin dot Theissen at sun dot com phone x19080 SUN Microsystems Ireland 'To you I'm an atheist; to God, I'm the Loyal Opposition.' - Woody Allen From: 'Peter Ravn' Date: Mon Oct 21, 2002 10:38 am Subject: Klaus Krieger Hi, I got Dive Bombers with Frieder Butzmann today (bought at http://www.skivhugget.com/ but now outsold!). To my surprise I see that Klaus Krieger co-compose the track 'Neo Loc (Little Eva)' and play on that track and on the 2 tracks 'Das Ras des Klangs' & 'Der Panische Hund' . The CD is made in 1990/91 and the music is ....ahhh very experimental and not easy to listen to...but it is made very professional because Frieder is a sound magician.... I have 2 Frieder Butzmann albums so I did of course know that :-). More info on him at http://www.friederbutzmann.de - the soundbites is not there bcause of a hacker attack :-( Best regards, Peter Ravn Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36779 Re: Klaus Krieger vic rek Mon 10/21/2002 3 KB 36780 Re: Klaus Krieger Peter Ravn Mon 10/21/2002 4 KB From: 'Antonio Nunes' Date: Mon Oct 21, 2002 10:48 am Subject: Re: TD 1969: Full length(!) End-Theme online!-WORKING- --- In tadream@y..., 'Dave Brewer' wrote: > For everyone that's listened to this end title music... Have you noticed > that the bass line is quite similar to the bass line in the early part of > Ricochet Part 1, only sped up with an additional note added and adding chord > changes? Yes, I've noticed that too. BTW, thanks to Rainer for sharing this piece of TD History. Antonio From: 'vic rek' Date: Mon Oct 21, 2002 3:38 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] TD 1969: Checkpoint Charley Edgar was also in the film 'Checkpoint Charley', but I do not think there was any TD music in it. It would be interesting to add this to the 'Underground 1969' release. Does anyone have this video cassette? Also, if anyone has the Linda Blair 'Red Heat' lasersdisc available, please contact me off list. Thanks! Vic ----- Original Message ----- From: Rainer Rutka To: Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 10:23 AM Subject: [tadream] TD 1969: Full length (!) End-Theme online ! > > Hi! > > Because of public demand, I put the full version (!) of the > 1969 TD track 'End Theme from 'Underground'' onto my site. > Don`t foreget to register for the 'Auf Scheisser schiesst man nicht/ > Underground' Video-/Music-CD before it`s too late. > > :-) > > Rainer > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > www.rutka.de/td > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36781 Re: TD 1969: Checkpoint Charley Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Mon 10/21/2002 3 KB 36783 another film (1968) with music by Edgar! Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Mon 10/21/2002 3 KB 36784 Re: another film (1968) with music by Edgar! John Vertical omegatransfinito Mon 10/21/2002 2 KB 36789 Re: another film (1968) with music by Edgar! scfeldman@j... losmara Mon 10/21/2002 2 KB 36795 Re: another film (1968) with music by Edgar! Michael A Jean mikejeanwork Mon 10/21/2002 3 KB 36794 Calling Graham McConkey Paul Fellows paulfellowstd Mon 10/21/2002 2 KB 36797 Re: another film (1968) with music by Edgar! Heiko Heerssen td_freak Tue 10/22/2002 3 KB 36798 Re: another film (1968) with music by Edgar! andrzejos2000 andrzejos2000 Tue 10/22/2002 4 KB 36800 Re: another film (1968) with music by Edgar! andrzejos2000 andrzejos2000 Tue 10/22/2002 2 KB From: 'vic rek' Date: Mon Oct 21, 2002 3:39 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] Klaus Krieger Hi Peter, Thanks for the information. I always appreciate information on obscure TD related music. Now I have to find a copy of this :-) Vic ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Ravn To: Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 3:38 AM Subject: [tadream] Klaus Krieger > Hi, > > I got Dive Bombers with Frieder Butzmann today (bought at > http://www.skivhugget.com/ but now outsold!). > > To my surprise I see that Klaus Krieger co-compose the track 'Neo Loc > (Little Eva)' and play on that track and on the 2 tracks 'Das Ras des > Klangs' & 'Der Panische Hund' . > > The CD is made in 1990/91 and the music is ....ahhh very experimental and > not easy to listen to...but it is made very professional because Frieder is > a sound magician.... > > I have 2 Frieder Butzmann albums so I did of course know that :-). > > More info on him at http://www.friederbutzmann.de - the soundbites is not > there bcause of a hacker attack :-( > > Best regards, > Peter Ravn > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > From: 'Peter Ravn' Date: Mon Oct 21, 2002 1:42 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] Klaus Krieger Ok, Vic :-) and others... - look here http://www.soundcity2000.com/cd_az/cd01/T0138.HTML Good luck hunting! Regards, Peter Ravn ----- Original Message ----- From: 'vic rek' To: Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [tadream] Klaus Krieger > Hi Peter, > Thanks for the information. I always appreciate information on obscure TD > related music. > Now I have to find a copy of this :-) > Vic > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Peter Ravn > To: > Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 3:38 AM > Subject: [tadream] Klaus Krieger > > > > Hi, > > > > I got Dive Bombers with Frieder Butzmann today (bought at > > http://www.skivhugget.com/ but now outsold!). > > > > To my surprise I see that Klaus Krieger co-compose the track 'Neo Loc > > (Little Eva)' and play on that track and on the 2 tracks 'Das Ras des > > Klangs' & 'Der Panische Hund' . > > > > The CD is made in 1990/91 and the music is ....ahhh very experimental and > > not easy to listen to...but it is made very professional because Frieder > is > > a sound magician.... > > > > I have 2 Frieder Butzmann albums so I did of course know that :-). > > > > More info on him at http://www.friederbutzmann.de - the soundbites is > not > > there bcause of a hacker attack :-( > > > > Best regards, > > Peter Ravn > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > > > Tangerine Tree info at > > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > From: Rainer Rutka Date: Mon Oct 21, 2002 2:03 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] TD 1969: Checkpoint Charley On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, vic rek wrote: > Edgar was also in the film 'Checkpoint Charley', but I do not think there > was any TD music in it. It would be interesting to add this to the > 'Underground 1969' release. Hi Vic. Yes this is true! The other title of the film was 'Warum die Ufos unseren Salat klauten' Here some infos I found: Warum die UFOs Unseren Salat Klauen Synopsis: An earthling is experimenting with the explosive potential of lettuce. This singularly dedicated biologist runs into interference by the police, finds his mother who has been missing for years, and begins a love affair with the daughter of a baker. Involved in this mix of characters is the U.S and Russian armies, and a film crew working on a movie about Hitler. These oddities are being observed from a UFO, which is perched out in space like a hawk, waiting for one of the little lettuces to blossom into a full-blown explosive device before it swoops down to steal the organic weapon of mass destruction. --- (nice story..) I never saw the film. But I think, Edgar dit not act as one of the main actors in this film. Music was made by Kraan (Helmut Hattler). In 'Underground' you see Edgar as one of the main actors. You can see him in more than 50% of the film (approx.). > Does anyone have this video cassette? Yes - WHO! Rainer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ www.rutka.de/td - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36783 another film (1968) with music by Edgar! Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Mon 10/21/2002 3 KB 36784 Re: another film (1968) with music by Edgar! John Vertical omegatransfinito Mon 10/21/2002 2 KB 36789 Re: another film (1968) with music by Edgar! scfeldman@j... losmara Mon 10/21/2002 2 KB 36795 Re: another film (1968) with music by Edgar! Michael A Jean mikejeanwork Mon 10/21/2002 3 KB 36794 Calling Graham McConkey Paul Fellows paulfellowstd Mon 10/21/2002 2 KB 36797 Re: another film (1968) with music by Edgar! Heiko Heerssen td_freak Tue 10/22/2002 3 KB 36798 Re: another film (1968) with music by Edgar! andrzejos2000 andrzejos2000 Tue 10/22/2002 4 KB 36800 Re: another film (1968) with music by Edgar! andrzejos2000 andrzejos2000 Tue 10/22/2002 2 KB From: 'nike_italy2002' Date: Mon Oct 21, 2002 2:12 pm Subject: OLD ALBUM REISSUE In the Amazon.de site I've found these reissue albums : Alpha centaury (16 September 2002) + Bonus track Ultima Thule Electronic meditation (16 September 2002) Atem (11 November 2002) No tracklist available Zeit (11 November 2002) No tracklist available Best regards Nicola Cont ITALY From: Rainer Rutka Date: Mon Oct 21, 2002 2:14 pm Subject: another film (1968) with music by Edgar! While hunting for more E. Froese films I found something very interesting in the IMDB-database: ---------------------------------------------- Meteor, Der (1968) (TV) Directed by: Leopold Lindtberg Writing credits: Friedrich Dürrenmatt (play) Genre: Drama (more) Music: Edgar Froese (uncredited) ---------------------------------------------- INFOS PLEASE!!!!!!!!! Is this true???? Rainer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ www.rutka.de/td - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36784 Re: another film (1968) with music by Edgar! John Vertical omegatransfinito Mon 10/21/2002 2 KB 36789 Re: another film (1968) with music by Edgar! scfeldman@j... losmara Mon 10/21/2002 2 KB 36795 Re: another film (1968) with music by Edgar! Michael A Jean mikejeanwork Mon 10/21/2002 3 KB 36794 Calling Graham McConkey Paul Fellows paulfellowstd Mon 10/21/2002 2 KB 36797 Re: another film (1968) with music by Edgar! Heiko Heerssen td_freak Tue 10/22/2002 3 KB 36798 Re: another film (1968) with music by Edgar! andrzejos2000 andrzejos2000 Tue 10/22/2002 4 KB 36800 Re: another film (1968) with music by Edgar! andrzejos2000 andrzejos2000 Tue 10/22/2002 2 KB From: 'John Vertical' Date: Mon Oct 21, 2002 2:29 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] another film (1968) with music by Edgar! >---------------------------------------------- >Meteor, Der (1968) (TV) >Directed by: Leopold Lindtberg >Writing credits: Friedrich Dürrenmatt (play) >Genre: Drama (more) >Music: Edgar Froese (uncredited) >---------------------------------------------- > >INFOS PLEASE!!!!!!!!! >Is this true???? Sounds familiar, but I'm not sure... At least there is some 96 Der Meteor soundtrack thingy too... John Vertical _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month.  Try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp From: 'Yannick EDOM' Date: Mon Oct 21, 2002 3:34 pm Subject: New chris franke soundtrack ?! Hi there I've just watched the teaser for the forthcoming movie 'Daredevil' by the 20th century fox and Marvel films. And the first seconds features music by Christopher Franke with some choir parts(available for download through his website). Does anyone know if the DD soundtrack will be by Chris Franke ? Many thanks for infos Yannick Edom Mirage Créations Champlain B7 A 101 47 Chemin de Pelleport 31500 TOULOUSE FRANCE e-mail : yannick.edom@s... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36787 Re: New chris franke soundtrack ?! moxica@a... moxica93 Mon 10/21/2002 2 KB 36792 Re: New chris franke soundtrack ?! Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Mon 10/21/2002 3 KB 36808 Re: New chris franke soundtrack ?! Yannick EDOM Edom_Y Wed 10/23/2002 3 KB 36811 Re: New chris franke soundtrack ?! Yannick EDOM Edom_Y Wed 10/23/2002 2 KB From: Synthhtnys@a... Date: Mon Oct 21, 2002 3:05 pm Subject: Onan the Barbarian My wife has just brought my attention to the fact that Steve Jolliffe ex-'member' of TD has produced music for a video called 'Hin Yin for men: Ancient secrets of relaxation & self eroticism' (What th...?) Poly From: moxica@a... Date: Mon Oct 21, 2002 3:09 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] New chris franke soundtrack ?! According to IMDB the music is by Graeme Revell. And Revell employs Haslinger for synth work, and Haslinger works with Franke with orchestrations and such, so I would say this soundtrack is 'two degrees' from Chris Franke... - jim > I've just watched the teaser for the forthcoming movie 'Daredevil' by the > 20th century fox and Marvel films. > And the first seconds features music by Christopher Franke with some choir > parts(available for download through his website). > > Does anyone know if the DD soundtrack will be by Chris Franke ? Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36792 Re: New chris franke soundtrack ?! Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Mon 10/21/2002 3 KB From: tadreaming@c... Date: Mon Oct 21, 2002 4:00 pm Subject: TT2 Hello, Could someone in the US set up a deal with me to burn TT2. I believe my branch is preoccupied with a busy life at the moment. Thanks in advance. Martyn C. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36790 Re: TT2 Dan Downey djambient Mon 10/21/2002 2 KB From: scfeldman@j... Date: Mon Oct 21, 2002 4:04 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] another film (1968) with music by Edgar! On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 16:14:35 +0200 (MEST) Rainer Rutka writes: > While hunting for more E. Froese films I found something very > interesting in the IMDB-database: > > ---------------------------------------------- > Meteor, Der (1968) (TV) > Directed by: Leopold Lindtberg > Writing credits: Friedrich Dürrenmatt (play) > Genre: Drama (more) > Music: Edgar Froese (uncredited) > ---------------------------------------------- This could be the (1988?) Jim & Pablo: Der Meteor thingee. Steven Feldman Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36795 Re: another film (1968) with music by Edgar! Michael A Jean mikejeanwork Mon 10/21/2002 3 KB From: Dan Downey Date: Mon Oct 21, 2002 5:48 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] TT2 I think I am in a similar boat. I would like to get TT2 on SHN if possible. - DanD --- tadreaming@c... wrote: > Hello, > > Could someone in the US set up a deal with me to > burn TT2. I believe my > branch is preoccupied with a busy life at the > moment. Thanks in advance. > > Martyn C. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: > mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > ===== DanD - aka DJAmbient www.ambientissue.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ From: 'Fred Yargui' Date: Mon Oct 21, 2002 6:04 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] TT2 Hello, Dreamers, I posted a mail some weeks ago in which I said I had a complete set of TT2 burnt in audio mode from SHN files donwloaded... Joe didn 't assign me another leave (although he might but I don't have any news). So I propose : first ask, first served ! Best Regards, Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: 'Dan Downey' To: Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [tadream] TT2 > I think I am in a similar boat. I would like to get > TT2 on SHN if possible. > > - DanD > > --- tadreaming@c... wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Could someone in the US set up a deal with me to > > burn TT2. I believe my > > branch is preoccupied with a busy life at the > > moment. Thanks in advance. > > > > Martyn C. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > > To unsubscribe: > > mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > > > Tangerine Tree info at > > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > ===== > DanD - aka DJAmbient > www.ambientissue.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36793 Re: TT2 Dan Downey djambient Mon 10/21/2002 5 KB From: Paul Fellows Date: Mon Oct 21, 2002 7:49 pm Subject: [tadream] Calling Graham McConkey Hi all, Just received an e-mail from a guy in Norway wanting to get in touch with any Australian fan, the name Graham McConkey came to mind, anyone got his contact details? Cheers Paul From: 'Michael A Jean' Date: Mon Oct 21, 2002 9:48 pm Subject: RE: [tadream] another film (1968) with music by Edgar! I don't see the name of the writer or director anywhere on the Jim & Pablo CD. In fact I forgot I even owned it! > -----Original Message----- > From: scfeldman@j... [mailto:scfeldman@j...] > Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 12:04 PM > To: tadream@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [tadream] another film (1968) with music by Edgar! > > > On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 16:14:35 +0200 (MEST) Rainer Rutka > writes: > > While hunting for more E. Froese films I found something very > > interesting in the IMDB-database: > > > > ---------------------------------------------- > > Meteor, Der (1968) (TV) > > Directed by: Leopold Lindtberg > > Writing credits: Friedrich Dürrenmatt (play) > > Genre: Drama (more) > > Music: Edgar Froese (uncredited) > > ---------------------------------------------- > > This could be the (1988?) Jim & Pablo: > Der Meteor thingee. > > Steven Feldman > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > From: 'Bill Fox' Date: Tue Oct 22, 2002 3:28 am Subject: EMUSIC Playlist #291 [ Best viewed using a fixed spacing font. ] EMUSIC is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. Show #291 October 17, 2002. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on ambient guitarist Jeff Pearce, who played at The Gathering on the 19th. The Featured CD at midnight was 'To the Shores of Heaven' on the Hypnos label. I will also conduct an interview by phone with Jeff. The Vinyl Starter was from the LP 'TONTO's Expanding Head Band' by Robert Margouleff and Malcolm Cecil on the Atlantic label. The show ran an extra five hours to celebrate the commencement of WDIY streaming audio on the net and to kick off the Fall Membership Drive. 'Contemporary Works Volume 1 by Klaus Schulze was featured. PLAYLIST: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ============================== 11:04 pm Robert Margouleff and Cybernaut TONTO's Expanding Head Band Malcolm Cecil (Atlantic) Mike Griffin and Dave Fulton Telephone Interview Mike Griffin and Dark Observer The Most Distant Point Known Dave Fulton (Hypnos) Free System Projekt Naiad * Atmospheric Conditions (Quantum) 12:00 am Jeff Pearce A Fading To the Shores of Heaven (Hypnos) Jeff Pearce Sudden Light To the Shores of Heaven (Hypnos) Jeff Pearce From Cliffs of Departure To the Shores of Heaven (Hypnos) Jeff Pearce The Emergence To the Shores of Heaven (Hypnos) Jeff Pearce Rain as a Metaphor To the Shores of Heaven (Hypnos) Jeff Pearce Beyond and Within To the Shores of Heaven (Hypnos) Jeff Pearce Veil of Lake Snow To the Shores of Heaven (Hypnos) Jeff Pearce Angels of the Ocean Calm To the Shores of Heaven (Hypnos) Jeff Pearce Doubt on Dark Waters To the Shores of Heaven (Hypnos) Jeff Pearce To the Shores of Heaven To the Shores of Heaven (Hypnos) Jeff Pearce Reunions To the Shores of Heaven (Hypnos) 1:00 am Klause Schulze Vanity of Sounds Contemporary Works 1 (Rainhorse) Klause Schulze Sacred Romance Contemporary Works 1 (Rainhorse) Klause Schulze The Wings of Strings Contemporary Works 1 (Rainhorse) 2:00 am VA [Rainbow Serpent] Desert Move Sequences No. 27 (Sequences) Klause Schulze Goold Old 4 On the Floor Contemporary Works 1 (Rainhorse) Klause Schulze J.E.M. Contemporary Works 1 (Rainhorse) 3:00 am Klause Schulze Overchill Contemporary Works 1 (Rainhorse) VA [Fanger & Kersten] Tapedriver GoldTri: Volume One (Stonk) Klause Schulze Local Scanning Contemporary Works 1 (Rainhorse) 4:00 am Klause Schulze Aphrodesire Contemporary Works 1 (Rainhorse) Klause Schulze Clobal Midication Contemporary Works 1 (Rainhorse) 5:00 am Tom Heasley Prelude On the Sensation of Tone (Innova) Klause Schulze The Keyhole Contemporary Works 1 (Rainhorse) Klause Schulze Privat Contemporary Works 1 (Rainhorse) Klause Schulze Privee * Contemporary Works 1 (Rainhorse) 6:00 am * = exerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) NEXT SHOW: On the next EMUSIC, I'll continue the month-long focus on Jeff Pearce who uses the guitar to create synth-like soundscapes. The Featured CD at Midnight will be 'Daylight Slowly' on the Hypnos label. The vinyl show starter will be from the LP 'Albedo 0.39' by Vangelis on the RCA label. I will play the music of artists who will be performing at upcoming Gatherings. Bill =============================================================================== Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic All times are GMT-5:00 To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emusic-wdiy and click on [Join This Group!] Host of the AM/FM Show on WMUH Allentown 91.7 FM every other Saturday at 6 am. Host of Afterglow on WMUH every Thursday morning from 8:00 to 9:30. http://soundscapes.us/~bill/amfm http://soundscapes.us/~bill/afterglow Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN Listen on-line to WMUH at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click REAL AUDIO Personal site: http://soundscapes.us/~bill All times are GMT-5:00 SOUNDSCAPES Concert Series: http://soundscapes.us From: Heiko Heerssen Date: Tue Oct 22, 2002 8:05 am Subject: Re: [tadream] another film (1968) with music by Edgar! > > > > While hunting for more E. Froese films I found something very > > > interesting in the IMDB-database: > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------- > > > Meteor, Der (1968) (TV) > > > Directed by: Leopold Lindtberg > > > Writing credits: Friedrich Dürrenmatt (play) > > > Genre: Drama (more) > > > Music: Edgar Froese (uncredited) > > > ---------------------------------------------- I've seen this entry a couple of years ago and it is NOT Jim & Pablo: der Meteor (1997), but a film from 1968. It was directed by Leopold Lindtberg. Just have a look at this URL: 'http://www.cyranos.ch/sflind-e.htm' and there you will find 'Der Meteor (1968)' listed below. Heiko Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36798 Re: another film (1968) with music by Edgar! andrzejos2000 andrzejos2000 Tue 10/22/2002 4 KB 36800 Re: another film (1968) with music by Edgar! andrzejos2000 andrzejos2000 Tue 10/22/2002 2 KB From: 'andrzejos2000' Date: Tue Oct 22, 2002 8:18 am Subject: Re: another film (1968) with music by Edgar! Look what you find typing Lindtberg and meteor into google search: Der Schweizer Film - Leopold Lindtberg by Thomas Staedeli ... Weitere Filme von Leopold Lindtberg ... 62) Das Mädel aus der Vorstadt (62) Die letzten Tage der Menschheit (64) Nathan der Weise (64) Kranichtanz (67) Der Meteor ... www.cyranos.ch/sflind-d.htm - 7k - Kopia - Podobne strony videoliste ... Dürrenmatt, Friedrich. Justiz (HW Geissendörfer). FS 16. Dürrenmatt, Friedrich. Der Meteor (Regie: Leopold Lindtberg) - A. x. FS 17. ... www.ksreussbuehl.ch/faecher/deutsch/ Seiten/videoliste.htm - 101k - Kopia - Podobne strony Er kam in die Enge und schuf Grosses - Zu Leopold Lindtbergs 100 ... ... Dem Schauspielhaus blieb Lindtberg auch nach 1945 treu verbunden, als sich ihm ... Zeit inszenierte er u. a. die Uraufführungen von Dürrenmatts ?Der Meteor ... www.nzz.ch/2002/05/31/fi/page-article85O8S.html - 33k - Kopia - Podobne strony Filmliste alle Verleiher Buchstabe J ... MARIE-LOUISE / CH, Heinrich Gretler, 16 mm, Leopold Lindtberg, Atlas-rialto, 44, 90. MARINE ISSUE, 35 mm, Warner Bros. ... METEOR, 35 mm, Warner Bros. ... www.cinema-team.ch/Filmlists/Film-M.htm - 101k - Kopia - Podobne strony [XLS]Tabelle1 Format pliku: Microsoft Excel 5 - Wersja HTML ... 129, Dürrenmatt Friedrich. DER METEOR (1966). 190. 110. fehlt. So97. 130, Dürrenmatt Friedrich. DER RICHTER UND SEIN HENKER. 90. 85. 22.04 ... www.ksluzern.ch/fachschaften/deutsch/ download/video/Video% 20Deutsch.xls - Podobne strony 8. Spielfilme, Fernsehspiele, Theaterstücke: M ... und keineswegs sterben wollen - der Meteor, der nicht vom Himmel sondern aus dem Totenbett gefallen ist, erschlägt sie alle...) Regie: Leopold Lindtberg; ... www.sprachenzentrum.hu-berlin.de/ med/katalog/deutsch/deut8m.htm - 34k - Kopia Try these links. Dream on, Andrzej/Andy > I've seen this entry a couple of years ago and it is NOT Jim & Pablo: der > Meteor (1997), but a film from 1968. It was directed by Leopold Lindtberg. Just > have a look at this URL: 'http://www.cyranos.ch/sflind-e.htm' and there you > will find 'Der Meteor (1968)' listed below. > > Heiko Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36800 Re: another film (1968) with music by Edgar! andrzejos2000 andrzejos2000 Tue 10/22/2002 2 KB From: 'braddito' Date: Tue Oct 22, 2002 8:27 am Subject: Re: Programme project Thanks to Chris and David for confirming this, I couldn't believe I would have thrown a programme away if it existed. So, now I'm looking for European programmes 74 - 83, Aus 75 and US 77 if they exist. Any information that confirms that there were programmes or handouts would be appreciated, scans will be even more welcome. Thanks Toby --- In tadream@y..., 'Chris Owen' wrote: > David, > > I can definitely confirm that there was no1980 UK tour progrgamme. I have a > press cutting stating that Virgin felt there wasn't enough up-to- date > pictures/info to warrant producing an entire programme for the tour. > However, what pictures they did have went into the 1970-1980 Boxset booklet > instead. > > - Chris From: 'andrzejos2000' Date: Tue Oct 22, 2002 8:38 am Subject: Re: another film (1968) with music by Edgar! Try this site (it's in English ;-)) You'll find: '40.Meteor, Der (1968) (TV) (uncredited) ' Andrzej From: Klaus Beschorner Date: Tue Oct 22, 2002 12:14 pm Subject: Checkpoint Charly >I never saw the film. But I think, Edgar dit not act as one of the main >actors in this film. Music was made by Kraan (Helmut Hattler). >In 'Underground' you see Edgar as one of the main actors. You can see >him in more than 50% of the film (approx.). Rainer, you never saw it because you don't trade videos with me ;-) Edgar only has a few short appearances, by my, are they funny! His costume is a bummer, too ;-) best regards, klaus -- Klaus.Beschorner........................work....+49-7033-45683 Drosselweg.6............................fax.....+49-7033-45631 D-71120.Grafenau........................Mobile.+49-174 3157754 Germany.................................home....+49-7033-45142 ............................................http://www.caby.de Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36802 Re: Checkpoint Charly Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Tue 10/22/2002 2 KB 36803 Re: Checkpoint Charly fozziebear fozziebearbeehive Tue 10/22/2002 2 KB 36807 Re: Checkpoint Charly TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak manicmort Wed 10/23/2002 2 KB 36812 Re: Checkpoint Charly strat95@b... strat9500 Wed 10/23/2002 3 KB From: Rainer Rutka Date: Tue Oct 22, 2002 2:21 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] Checkpoint Charly > Rainer, you never saw it because you don't trade videos with me ;-) Ups! > Edgar only has a few short appearances, by my, are they funny! > His costume is a bummer, too ;-) So lets put it onto a VCD, too. Rainer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ www.rutka.de/td - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From: 'fozziebear' Date: Tue Oct 22, 2002 5:19 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] Checkpoint Charly > >I never saw the film. But I think, Edgar dit not act as one of the main > >actors in this film. Music was made by Kraan (Helmut Hattler). > >In 'Underground' you see Edgar as one of the main actors. You can see > >him in more than 50% of the film (approx.). > > Rainer, you never saw it because you don't trade videos with me ;-) > > Edgar only has a few short appearances, by my, are they funny! > His costume is a bummer, too ;-) > > best regards, > klaus The skeletons are coming out of the closet.... whatever next? KS appearing not just playing in Body Love! David Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36807 Re: Checkpoint Charly TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak manicmort Wed 10/23/2002 2 KB From: 'Chris Owen' Date: Wed Oct 23, 2002 2:17 am Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Programme project Toby, There were defintely programmes for these tours as I have them... 1974 UK (cover has a copy of Phaedra LP melting) 1975 UK (cover is a sort of pyschedelic fountain more typical of Ozric Tentacles artwork. Also has the caption 'A Let It Rock Special' towards the bottom). 1976 UK (cover is a take on the Stratosfear artwork) 1977 USA (cover same as UK76 apart from lettering) 1978 UK (cover just has a shot of the four man line up with Jolliffe holding a baby doll! Picture takes up about 50% of page area, with the remainder a uniform orange!) 1981 UK (cover has several superimposed shots of band members in outdoor locations. Picture takes up less than half of the page area. Rest of the cover is black apart from the lettering) 1982/83 Europe (cover contains the 'earth-in-triangle' graphic from White eagle cover, set against blue vertical stripes) 1986 UK (cover has the now familiar TDI circular logo, set against an orange and red striped background) 1986 USA (same design as UK86, but with a dark/light blue background) 1990 UK (cover has simple head shots of Edgar, Jerome and Paul taking up entire cover) 1992 USA (cover has a shot of tour line-up, outlined by an effect which makes it seem like the picture has been pasted onto the cover from a scrapbook. There is a false-colour image of a pylon behind them) There doesn't seem to have bneen a proper tour progrgamme for the last 10 years. Hope this helps, - Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: braddito To: Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 1:27 AM Subject: [tadream] Re: Programme project > Thanks to Chris and David for confirming this, I couldn't believe I > would have thrown a programme away if it existed. > > So, now I'm looking for European programmes 74 - 83, Aus 75 and US 77 > if they exist. Any information that confirms that there were > programmes or handouts would be appreciated, scans will be even more > welcome. > > Thanks > Toby > > --- In tadream@y..., 'Chris Owen' wrote: > > David, > > > > I can definitely confirm that there was no1980 UK tour progrgamme. > I have a > > press cutting stating that Virgin felt there wasn't enough up-to- > date > > pictures/info to warrant producing an entire programme for the tour. > > However, what pictures they did have went into the 1970-1980 Boxset > booklet > > instead. > > > > - Chris > > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36805 The Tangerine Dream Band 1969 (complete members + foto) Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Tue 10/22/2002 3 KB From: Rainer Rutka Date: Tue Oct 22, 2002 7:21 pm Subject: The Tangerine Dream Band 1969 (complete members + foto) Hi! Today I got a very nice 4 CD set with a TD radioshow with some E.F. interviews and the complete story of the band. This show was made in 1985 (with Mario Schoenwaelder!). Well done and very informative. And here I found the cast of the 1969 Tangerine Dream version. I will put the description of the CDs on my site very soon! I was the first band called 'Tangerine Dream'! This was a new band and had nothing to do with 'The Ones'. Members of 'THE TANGERINE DREAM BAND' 1969 * Edgar Froese [guitar] * Volker Hombach [flute, violin, guitar] * Lanse (Lanca?) Hapshash [drums] * Kurt Herkenberg [bass] The guy in the radio said: 'They produced an obscure soundtrack in 1969 (Underground!!!) and split soon after'. So we have the only recording of this band existing in the UNDERGROUND soundtrack (maybe I`m wrong)! I included a b/w picture of the band on my 'Underground' site and a link to the 'Essener Internationale Songtage 1968' where I found the picture. So I hope, this hole is filled :-) :-) Rainer (diggin' in the dirt....) Have you signed for the CD? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ www.rutka.de/td - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From: 'Owens, James' Date: Tue Oct 22, 2002 9:00 pm Subject: RE: [tadream] The Tangerine Dream Band 1969 (complete members + f oto) Rainer (or another kind German-speaking fan), Could you please post a translation of the Essener Internationale Songtage 1968 article? I translated it with Babelfish, but that's not a very good translation (as usual). From what I got it seems to either be praising Charlie Prince, or berating him. It's hard to tell which. Either way, it seems that maybe there is some detail about the transition from 'The Ones' to 'The Tangerine Dream Band'. -----Original Message----- From: Rainer Rutka [mailto:rainer@k...] I included a b/w picture of the band on my 'Underground' site and a link to the 'Essener Internationale Songtage 1968' where I found the picture. From: TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak Date: Wed Oct 23, 2002 9:13 am Subject: Re: [tadream] Checkpoint Charly > > >The skeletons are coming out of the closet.... whatever next? KS >appearing not just playing in Body Love! > >David > Yeech! That is a nasty vision! Best regards, Martin Kasprzak TDI- Music- Support. Tel:-49-30-23620995 Fax:-49-30-23620996 Visit our Website at: http://www.tangerinedream.org [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From: 'Yannick EDOM' Date: Wed Oct 23, 2002 12:56 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] New chris franke soundtrack ?! Hi there > > > I've just watched the teaser for the forthcoming movie 'Daredevil' by the > > > 20th century fox and Marvel films. > > > And the first seconds features music by Christopher Franke with some choir > > > parts(available for download through his website). > > > Does anyone know if the DD soundtrack will be by Chris Franke ? > > Would you please send the URL? Can`t find it on Frankes` site :-( > > Rainer Here are the links of the two tracks from sonic images website used for the Daredevil trailer : http://sonicimages.com/webdata/cf/MusicByCF/snd/Dub-CP_12.mp3 http://sonicimages.com/webdata/cf/MusicByCF/snd/ReMID-StarWarsSato.mp3 If you want to download the 36 tracks available please click on the link below http://www.sonicimages.com/action.lasso?-database=Products.fp3&-layout=CGI&- response=/2001/sub/cf/audio.html&-op=eq&Product+ID=1111002&-maxRecords=1&-se arch Or be connected to www.sonicimage.com and chose the chris franke section and after the audio one. Friendly from France Yannick Edom Mirage Créations Champlain B7 A 101 47 Chemin de Pelleport 31500 TOULOUSE FRANCE e-mail : yannick.edom@s... From: 'vic rek' Date: Tue Oct 22, 2002 7:20 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] TD on the radio > In my nonstop efforts to promote electronic music, I have started a new EM > radio programme, Electronic Shadows, which I am hosting in Eastern Norway on > Favorit FM on Saturdays. Eastern Norway? I thought Norway was a narrow country that ran more north and south, rather than east or west? From: 'John Vertical' Date: Wed Oct 23, 2002 12:57 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] TD on the radio > > In my nonstop efforts to promote electronic music, I have started a new >EM > > radio programme, Electronic Shadows, which I am hosting in Eastern >Norway >on > > Favorit FM on Saturdays. > >Eastern Norway? I thought Norway was a narrow country that ran more north >and south, rather than east or west? Look at any atlas, and you'll see that it goes from northeast to southwest, with a larger blob at the south... There's not much people living in the northeast (cf. Alaska) so I guess this means the east part of the southern 'blob'. John Vertical _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free!  Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36813 rip entire disk to mp3 as one track (slightly OT) Roy Teale Wed 10/23/2002 3 KB 36814 Re: rip entire disk to mp3 as one track (slightly OT) Matthew Sawyer matthewsawyer Wed 10/23/2002 2 KB 36815 Re: rip entire disk to mp3 as one track (slightly OT) quarlie@a... Quarlie Thu 10/24/2002 2 KB From: 'Yannick EDOM' Date: Wed Oct 23, 2002 3:24 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] New chris franke soundtrack ?! Hi there again > (...) > Or be connected to www.sonicimage.com and chose the chris franke section and > after the audio one. > As you know the right URL is www.sonicimages.com I did a syntax mistake sorry. Yannick Edom Mirage Créations Champlain B7 A 101 47 Chemin de Pelleport 31500 TOULOUSE FRANCE e-mail : yannick.edom@s... From: Date: Wed Oct 23, 2002 6:48 pm Subject: Re: Checkpoint Charly > > >I never saw the film. But I think, Edgar dit not act as one of the main > > >actors in this film. Music was made by Kraan (Helmut Hattler). > > >In 'Underground' you see Edgar as one of the main actors. You can see > > >him in more than 50% of the film (approx.). > > > > Rainer, you never saw it because you don't trade videos with me ;-) > > > > Edgar only has a few short appearances, by my, are they funny! > > His costume is a bummer, too ;-) > > > > best regards, > > klaus > The skeletons are coming out of the closet.... whatever next? KS > appearing not just playing in Body Love! So, is this the start of another tree?? Any and all of the old, rare appearances of the band members, past and present? Is Body Love around? I would love to see how the music was used in that film......you know......um....for purely artistic reasons. Neal From: 'Roy Teale' Date: Wed Oct 23, 2002 9:18 pm Subject: rip entire disk to mp3 as one track (slightly OT) Hi, Lots of TD's disks are produced as continuous tracks, with each individual track flowing into the next. A prime example is 220 Volts Live. I have a mp3 player in my car now JVC KD-SX980, and have been burning mp3 disks (with around 8-10 cd's worth of music each). Like having your own cd changer, without the bulk. Each mp3 track, though, has a pause in it. Maybe a second. So I'd have to burn the entire CD's music as one mp3 track to take out the pauses. I can do it in Sound Forge, I'm sure, by concatenating individual .wav tracks back together before converting to mp3, but is there an easier way? One program that will rip/convert to mp3 in one swipe the entire CD, as one track? By the way, I HIGHLY recommend this KD-SX980 head unit. I haven't had it skip either standard CD's or MP3's yet! And I drive over some rough territory in my Subaru. Thanks for any direction in this, Roy Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36814 Re: rip entire disk to mp3 as one track (slightly OT) Matthew Sawyer matthewsawyer Wed 10/23/2002 2 KB 36815 Re: rip entire disk to mp3 as one track (slightly OT) quarlie@a... Quarlie Thu 10/24/2002 2 KB From: 'Matthew Sawyer' Date: Wed Oct 23, 2002 9:24 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] rip entire disk to mp3 as one track (slightly OT) From: 'Roy Teale' > One program that will rip/convert to mp3 in one swipe the > entire CD, as one track? EAC. http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/ Click the Img button to create a WAV image of the whole disc, then you can mp3 the wav file. Maff _________________________________________________ www.tachyon-tv.co.uk www.tangent.da.ru www.mst3uk.com From: quarlie@a... Date: Thu Oct 24, 2002 1:50 am Subject: Re: [tadream] rip entire disk to mp3 as one track (slightly OT) 'Matthew Sawyer' wrote: >EAC. http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/ > >Click the Img button to create a WAV image of the whole disc, then you can mp3 >the wav file. BTW, Mac users wishing to do a similar thing can use the 'Join CD Tracks' command on the Advanced menu in iTunes. --Daniel NP: Project Pitchfork - Chakra:Red From: 'Glenn Folkvord - Hyperion Media' Date: Thu Oct 24, 2002 4:15 am Subject: Re: [tadream] TD on the radio > > > In my nonstop efforts to promote electronic music, I have started a new > >EM > > > radio programme, Electronic Shadows, which I am hosting in Eastern > >Norway > >on > > > Favorit FM on Saturdays. > > > >Eastern Norway? I thought Norway was a narrow country that ran more north > >and south, rather than east or west? > > > Look at any atlas, and you'll see that it goes from northeast to southwest, > with a larger blob at the south... > There's not much people living in the northeast (cf. Alaska) so I guess this > means the east part of the southern 'blob'. John is right, my radio station covers the Eastern central parts of the 'blob' in the south. Since Norway has alot of mountains and a very strict FM policy, our radio beams are limited to that geographical area. That concludes the Norwegian geography lesson for today! :-) Glenn P.S.: Scheduled for next Saturday's show is 'Poland'. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36817 Re: TD on the radio braddito braddito Thu 10/24/2002 2 KB From: 'braddito' Date: Thu Oct 24, 2002 8:08 am Subject: Re: TD on the radio Glenn, good luck with the show. It's hard to believe that 'Poland' is nearly 20 years old and still sounds great. Are you going to publicise the TDI website for newly interested fans to check out ? Is there a UK EM show on any radio station ? Toby --- In tadream@y..., 'Glenn Folkvord - Hyperion Media' wrote: > > > > In my nonstop efforts to promote electronic music, I have started a new EM radio programme, Electronic Shadows, which I am hosting in Eastern Norway on Favorit FM on Saturdays. > > P.S.: Scheduled for next Saturday's show is 'Poland'. From: 'Phil White' Date: Thu Oct 24, 2002 9:02 am Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: TD on the radio Hi..... I think the last ( only ? ) one died way back when Ashley Franklin's much missed Sunday afternoon show on Radio Derby went the way of the Dodo and left a gaping hole in the electronic music ether.... Regards Phil P.S. Does anyone know what Ashley is doing now ? ----- Original Message ----- From: 'braddito' To: Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 9:08 AM Subject: [tadream] Re: TD on the radio > Is there a UK EM show on any radio station ? > > Toby From: 'Glenn Folkvord - Hyperion Media' Date: Thu Oct 24, 2002 10:28 am Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: TD on the radio ----- Original Message ----- From: 'braddito' > Glenn, good luck with the show. It's hard to believe that 'Poland' is > nearly 20 years old and still sounds great. Yes, it still sounds fresh and new. > Are you going to > publicise the TDI website for newly interested fans to check out ? I dont talk much between the songs I play, so I doubt it. Perhaps one day I'll do a TD special, then I might include such info. > Is there a UK EM show on any radio station ? Not to my knowledge, but it would surprise me if some local non-BBC 'amateur' radiostation doesnt have a show like this. Glenn http://www.jarretribute.com From: 'Fred Yargui' Date: Thu Oct 24, 2002 12:04 pm Subject: Re: rip entire disk to mp3 as one track Hello, There is also a similar utility program in PLEXTOOL, the software that comes with plextor burners. CDcopy did it too (called classical mode) HTH Fred [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From: 'Colin Jouxson' Date: Thu Oct 24, 2002 7:54 pm Subject: Off Topic-Coventry Cathedral. Incredible sounds,Froese Franke, Baumann,Probably the GREATEST LINE UP OF ALL TIME,Out Of This WORLD Brilliance,pretenders have tried to better it,but,its an impossibility.Unbeatable TD. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36823 Re: Off Topic-Coventry Cathedral. Paul Dryden paulus_d2002 Fri 10/25/2002 3 KB From: 'Paul Dryden' Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 8:41 am Subject: Tangerine Tree Volume 14 I just got TT1 and TT2 from Maff, I have finished playing all the disks! The're fantastic!!!! Big thanks to you all for these!!! The Vol 14 (02-02-82) stood out, basically, but poses a few questions I will put to all you: 1. What is the theme played at about 8mins into 'thermal inversion'? I know it from somewhere else.... 2.Why does the Tangents Box set claim 'silver scale' as a Franke/Froese composition,when Johannes was there? 3.Why was this concert never used as the basis for an album in the 80's? And: 4.Why DO TD overdub live stuff for albums anyway, the TT material is capable of standing as is? Paulus.d_uk [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36824 Re: Tangerine Tree Volume 14 Heiko Heerssen td_freak Fri 10/25/2002 3 KB 36833 Re: Tangerine Tree Volume 14 Antonio Nunes ajogon Fri 10/25/2002 2 KB From: 'Paul Dryden' Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 8:43 am Subject: Re: [tadream] Off Topic-Coventry Cathedral. This is very much on topic! great sounds, fanastic music! Paulus.d ----- Original Message ----- From: 'Colin Jouxson' To: Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 8:54 PM Subject: [tadream] Off Topic-Coventry Cathedral. > Incredible sounds,Froese Franke, Baumann,Probably the GREATEST LINE > UP OF ALL TIME,Out Of This WORLD Brilliance,pretenders have tried to > better it,but,its an impossibility.Unbeatable TD. > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > From: Heiko Heerssen Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 9:36 am Subject: Re: [tadream] Tangerine Tree Volume 14 > I just got TT1 and TT2 from Maff, I have finished playing all the disks! The're fantastic!!!! Big thanks to you all for these!!! Thanks Paul! We are currently working on TT3 and so far the results are very promising, it seems that this time the focus will be more on 'stuff from the 70s', and most likely the number of will be around 15 or 16. I decided to replace the webcast download of London SBE 2001 with concerts from 1973 and 1976 (not because London sounds bad, but the tracklist is more or less identical to Warsaw 2001 Vol. 15/16, so I think we can leave this concert for a later 'tree' volume) > 2.Why does the Tangents Box set claim 'silver scale' as a Franke/Froese composition,when Johannes was there? since it's a fast-paced sequencer track I can only assume that it was composed by Chris Franke, and maybe Edgar was responsible for the atmospheric intro..but one can only guess. > 3.Why was this concert never used as the basis for an album in the 80's? I don't know...most musicians would count themselves lucky if they could release Paris Bataclan as an official CD. > > 4.Why DO TD overdub live stuff for albums anyway, the TT material is capable of standing as is? go ask Edgar :-) Heiko From: 'braddito' Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 9:59 am Subject: OT - DVD template sought Sorry for OT content, but I'd be grateful if someone could email me a DVD insert template for Corel Photo Paint. Thanks Toby Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36827 frist pictures from UNDERGROUND 1969 Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Fri 10/25/2002 2 KB 36828 Re: frist pictures from UNDERGROUND 1969 Heiko Heerssen td_freak Fri 10/25/2002 3 KB 36829 Re: frist pictures from UNDERGROUND 1969 Heiko Heerssen td_freak Fri 10/25/2002 3 KB 36830 Re: frist pictures from UNDERGROUND 1969 Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Fri 10/25/2002 3 KB 36831 Re: frist pictures from UNDERGROUND 1969 Falcon ppgwave2000 Fri 10/25/2002 2 KB From: 'John Vertical' Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 10:25 am Subject: Sohoman & Hyperborea Bought the aforenamed few new TD albums yesterday... I probably got one of the last Sohoman disks I'll see, and what made me buy it was actually mostly fact that it's not avaivable anymore. I think I'm starting to develop a collector attitude... Bad overdubs? Blah. That's so not the right word - it's not bad at all on Convention of the 24 or Logos 'Velvet Part'; they all have some nice new elements. White Eagle sound identical to studio (though apparently shorter). The transistions are nice too. C24 has a nice intro and the brighter sequence adding towards the end soudns more energetic than before. Also, a certain new ambient layer resembles this certain voice from TT vol. 7 part 1; you know, the one immediately after the Ricochet Part 1 intro chords start to fade away. Logos has been treated in a sense which I find greatly similar to Warsaw in the Sun on TT vol.15; it's this monotonic keyboards frosting. Makes the piece sound even lazier than it was before. I'll probably still prefer the album version, though. I don't (yet!) know what the original version of Ayers Majestic was like, but if those blurry synth bubbles really were present then, then about 80% of the today's [mainstream] electronic music sounds like they're just sampling this piece... ;) But Bondy Parade. 'Overdubbed' is apparently too weak a word, but 'complete reconstruction' would be too heavy, on the other hand. And I though the original version sounded cheesy! *This* version is so pathetic that you can't even cry. Screw the torpedos and full speed forward! (And Edgar, what's the point in printing in the cover that you played a guitar on the tour when you've carefully removed every audible trace of that? I just don't understand.) --- I'll not review Hyperborea, though, since it was just a replacement for my earlier CDR copy. ]:D But does anyone know what does that enigmatic barcode thingy in the cover, or the '2001' below, mean? John Vertical _________________________________________________________________ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From: Rainer Rutka Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 10:27 am Subject: frist pictures from UNDERGROUND 1969 Hi! I put 3 (out of 70) small pics taken from the UNDERGRUND film onto my site. Some of them will be included in the booklet (approx. 15 - 20 pages - only for the first fans, who reserved a copy!). Rainer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ www.rutka.de/td - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36828 Re: frist pictures from UNDERGROUND 1969 Heiko Heerssen td_freak Fri 10/25/2002 3 KB 36829 Re: frist pictures from UNDERGROUND 1969 Heiko Heerssen td_freak Fri 10/25/2002 3 KB 36830 Re: frist pictures from UNDERGROUND 1969 Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Fri 10/25/2002 3 KB 36831 Re: frist pictures from UNDERGROUND 1969 Falcon ppgwave2000 Fri 10/25/2002 2 KB From: Heiko Heerssen Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 11:05 am Subject: Re: [tadream] frist pictures from UNDERGROUND 1969 > I put 3 (out of 70) small pics taken from the UNDERGRUND film onto my > site. Some of them will be included in the booklet (approx. 15 - 20 > pages - only for the first fans, who reserved a copy!). Rainer, you are 'da man'! (but only if I belong to those 'first fans'! ~LOL~) Heiko np: Berlin Deutschlandhalle November 29, 1973...'kosmische Musik' at its very best. From: Heiko Heerssen Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 11:10 am Subject: Re: [tadream] frist pictures from UNDERGROUND 1969 > I put 3 (out of 70) small pics taken from the UNDERGRUND film onto my > site. Just saw them and still can't stop laughing. If the other 67 pics are of the same quality then it's surely a film every TD fan has to see to really believe it :-) Heiko Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36830 Re: frist pictures from UNDERGROUND 1969 Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Fri 10/25/2002 3 KB 36831 Re: frist pictures from UNDERGROUND 1969 Falcon ppgwave2000 Fri 10/25/2002 2 KB From: Rainer Rutka Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 11:05 am Subject: Re: [tadream] frist pictures from UNDERGROUND 1969 On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Heiko Heerssen wrote: > Just saw them and still can't stop laughing. If the other 67 pics are of the > same quality then it's surely a film every TD fan has to see to really > believe it :-) > Heiko Hi! First of all 'thanks for the flowers Heiko!'. And yes, most of the pics are 'strange', too. I will put some more of them onto the page during the next week and some of them will be included in the booklet of the CD set (but not all of them - too much!). Yes: A piece of history! Rainer Do you see the flowers in 'Eddie`s' hands? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ www.rutka.de/td - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From: Falcon Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 11:13 am Subject: Re: [tadream] frist pictures from UNDERGROUND 1969 At 01:10 PM 10/25/2002, you wrote: >Just saw them and still can't stop laughing. If the other 67 pics are of the >same quality then it's surely a film every TD fan has to see to really >believe it :-) I knew it ! Edgar is an actor after all ! I vote for an oscar nominee ! ;-))) Ramon From: 'Antonio Nunes' Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 1:00 pm Subject: Re: Tangerine Tree Volume 14 --- In tadream@y..., 'Paul Dryden' wrote: > 1. What is the theme played at about 8mins into 'thermal inversion'? > I know it from somewhere else.... Maybe you know it from TT Volume 10 disc 2? This theme was played in most concerts from 1981. Antonio Nunes np: TT vol.10 disc 2 From: 'Bill Fox' Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 3:24 pm Subject: EMUSIC Playlist #292 [ Best viewed using a fixed spacing font. ] EMUSIC is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. Show #292 October 24, 2002. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on ambient guitarist Jeff Pearce, who played at The Gathering on the 19th. The Featured CD at midnight was 'Daylight Slowly' on the Hypnos label. The Vinyl Starter was from the LP 'Albedo 0.39' by Vangelis the RCA label. Jeff Pearce http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic/playlists/2002/focus02.html#oct PLAYLIST: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ============================== 11:04 pm Vangelis Alpha Albedo 0.39 (RCA) Mark Jenkins Supernova Space Dreams 2 (AMP) Mark Jenkins Gravity Waves Space Dreams 2 (AMP) Alpha Wave Movement Distant Signals A Distant Signal (HRR) Ozone Player The Wobbling Wardrobe E (Visual Power) Wave World Cloudseeder Cloudseeder (VFR) Mark Jenkins The Ceremony of Sequencer Loops (AMP) Innocence Harold Grosskopf Gamma Knife Digital Nomad (AMP) Jeff Pearce Inner Light Daylight Slowly (Hypnos) 12:00 am Jeff Pearce Spirals Daylight Slowly (Hypnos) Jeff Pearce Cloud Water Rising Daylight Slowly (Hypnos) Jeff Pearce Labyrinth Daylight Slowly (Hypnos) Jeff Pearce Quiet and Clear Daylight Slowly (Hypnos) Jeff Pearce The Broken Places Daylight Slowly (Hypnos) Jeff Pearce Known Presence Daylight Slowly (Hypnos) Jeff Pearce Delta Daylight Slowly (Hypnos) Jeff Pearce Through Darkened Halls Daylight Slowly (Hypnos) Jeff Pearce 11/11 Daylight Slowly (Hypnos) Jeff Pearce Inner Storms Daylight Slowly (Hypnos) Jeff Pearce Daylight Slowly Daylight Slowly (Hypnos) Jeff Pearce Passage to Home Daylight Slowly (Hypnos) 1:00 am * = exerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) NEXT SHOW: On the next EMUSIC, I'll conclude the month-long focus on Jeff Pearce who uses the guitar to create synth-like soundscapes. The Featured CD at Midnight will be 'The Hidden Rift' on the Ancient Sun Music label. The vinyl show starter will be from the LP 'Encore' by Tangerine Dream on the Virgin label. I will play the music of artists who will be performing at upcoming Gatherings and will interview Jeff Pearce by phone. Bill =============================================================================== Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic All times are GMT-5:00 To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emusic-wdiy and click on [Join This Group!] Host of the AM/FM Show on WMUH Allentown 91.7 FM every other Saturday at 6 am. Host of Afterglow on WMUH every Thursday morning from 8:00 to 9:30. http://soundscapes.us/~bill/amfm http://soundscapes.us/~bill/afterglow Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN Listen on-line to WMUH at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click REAL AUDIO Personal site: http://soundscapes.us/~bill All times are GMT-5:00 SOUNDSCAPES Concert Series: http://soundscapes.us From: 'John Vertical' Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 4:29 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] TT vol. 14 & live theories >1. What is the theme played at about 8mins into 'thermal inversion'? I >know it from somewhere else.... If you're referring to the section with brighter sequence, then I managed to think about these: -The sequence is quite similar to that of TT vol. 7 part 3 -The lone chords are just making a reappearence from the beginning. -The melody is hard to distinct because it is exorbitantly slow compared to the sequences. I played the track at double speed (and boy, is it irritating!) but I can't even then pair it with anything I've heard before. Sorry :( >2.Why does the Tangents Box set claim 'silver scale' as a Franke/Froese >composition,when Johannes was there? I'm pretty sure that there was more of such pieces in the 80s (I mean, pieces in whose composing not everyone was involved in) but Virgin & subsequently Jive Electro probably decided to just credit everyone. The varying arrangements of names could relate to this. -Of course, there were the 2 tracks on Phaedra that were Edgar's and Peter's solo efforts; why they were not labelled similarily is hard to understand. Perhaps someone (either TD or Virgin) simply just changed their crediting customs. The fact that 'Southed Mall' on Antique Dreams (which 'was planned to be a part of the Le Parc release' was credited to Edgar only would support this crediting customs theory futher. Unless you want to believe that Edgar doesn't want to give any more credit to old band members than absolutely necessary. >3.Why was this concert never used as the basis for an album in the 80's? I think TD was too humble in the 80s and the 70s when it came to live material. Much of it is far superior compared to what crap can be found from the market today; yet, TD decided to publish few 'live impressions' albums (Ricochet, Encore), studio reworkings (Livemiles, Sohoman, Pergamon/Quichotte, Soundmill Navigator) and only two 'that's more like it's (Logos, Poland). I think that TD didn't self value their numerous 70s and 80s unreleased live material as we do. A 76, 81 or 88 live album would have sold like.. like... well, whatever you English people use in that phrase. But they didn't see it. There's another side in this too. Onward from 83, TD really had lots of work to do, soundtracks & such, which eventually led to the departures of Johannes and Chris. Perhaps they simply didn't have time to edit live material. (Live Miles is from 88 so Chris wasn't around complaining the burden). Or left it unreleased in order to have 'backup material'; I mean, using live themes in soundtracks or releasing them later. >And: >4.Why DO TD overdub live stuff for albums anyway, the TT material is >capable of standing as is? >Paulus.d_uk Probably related to this hypothetic underselfrespect in some way. They only can know themself for sure of course. John Vertical _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36851 Re: TT vol. 14 & live theories Roger Hartopp gmroger Sun 10/27/2002 3 KB 36874 Re: TT vol. 14 & live theories John Vertical omegatransfinito Mon 10/28/2002 3 KB From: 'Colin Jouxson' Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 8:13 pm Subject: Coventry Cathedral I have waited a long time for a recording of this portion of the Classic Coventry Cathedral concert,thanks to a certain prominent mailing list member,the wait is over,i have always favoured the Royal Albert Hall concert of 1975,but this clip was an absolute Joy to veiw,those strains of Ricochet just Hammered home how truly Awesome this incredible band were at that time,way ahead of the competition,sheer Magic.WE WILL NEVER SEE THEIR LIKE AGAIN. Stand up if you loves TD. Best regards CJ From: 'Gary Jenkins' Date: Sat Oct 26, 2002 9:28 am Subject: TD Live in London Hi all just ordered my ticket for TD live at the London Astoria Sat Feb 15/2/03 I assume this will be the Inferno concert. Cheers Gary PS Tickets available through ticketweb or ticketmaster £20.00. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36838 Re: TD Live in London Colin Jouxson convention24 Sat 10/26/2002 2 KB 36839 Re: TD Live in London Janet Wojtecki caw8429 Sat 10/26/2002 3 KB 36854 Re: TD Live in London TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak manicmort Mon 10/28/2002 3 KB 36855 Re: TD Live in London Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Mon 10/28/2002 3 KB 36857 Re: TD Live in London orangefunk_2000 orangefunk_2000 Mon 10/28/2002 2 KB 36859 Re: TD Live in London Colin Jouxson convention24 Mon 10/28/2002 3 KB 36861 Re: TD Live in London Marcel Engels mars103nl Mon 10/28/2002 2 KB 36867 Re: TD Live in London Colin Jouxson convention24 Mon 10/28/2002 2 KB 36868 Re: TD Live in London Yanick Vigneault yanx_88 Mon 10/28/2002 2 KB From: 'Colin Jouxson' Date: Sat Oct 26, 2002 9:50 am Subject: Re: TD Live in London --- In tadream@y..., 'Gary Jenkins' wrote: > Hi all just ordered my ticket for TD live at the London Astoria Sat > Feb 15/2/03 I assume this will be the Inferno concert. > > Cheers Gary > > PS Tickets available through ticketweb or ticketmaster £20.00. Hello Gary Thank you for your email,i have just booked my ticket at ticketweb,i have just phoned John from Bridgend who came to sheps bush last year,and he is in the process of booking his,this is indeed splendid news,look very much forward to meeting up with yourself and other mailing list members on the day.YAHHHHOOOOOO roll on February. Best regards Colin. From: 'Janet Wojtecki' Date: Sat Oct 26, 2002 10:50 am Subject: Re: [tadream] TD Live in London Hi Gary, Thanks for the latest info. I've just booked as well. 'Standing only' ..aargh. OK never mind. Cheers Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: 'Gary Jenkins' To: Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 10:28 AM Subject: [tadream] TD Live in London Hi all just ordered my ticket for TD live at the London Astoria Sat Feb 15/2/03 I assume this will be the Inferno concert. Cheers Gary PS Tickets available through ticketweb or ticketmaster £20.00. ----------------------------------------------------_- To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ----------------------------------------------------_- Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ Tangerine Tree info at http://www.tadream.net/tree Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From: Date: Sat Oct 26, 2002 11:46 am Subject: TD Live in the UK Hello all UK TD Fans, this is a message from Colin: Hello Just been informed by a fellow TD fan that Tangerine Dream are playing at the London Astoria on saturday february 15th 2003,this is splended news indeed,tickets are 20UK pounds,and can be purchased at www.ticketweb.co.uk. Hope to see many other TD fans there.Gary thanks again for the info,im well chuffed. Best regards Colin. Regards heiko www.opticaldream.de [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36844 Re: TD Live in the UK Chris Owen ledjarde2000 Sat 10/26/2002 3 KB 36856 Re: TD Live in the UK Matthew Stringer Mon 10/28/2002 2 KB From: 'Gary Jenkins' Date: Sat Oct 26, 2002 1:33 pm Subject: Astoria licence After ordering my tickets I found out they have lost there licence yesterday due to Health and safety reasons mainly due to a shooting incident at a Rap concert last October, current concerts are going ahead and they are in the appeal court on 26/11/02 lets hope things get sorted. Cheers Gary From: 'Colin Jouxson' Date: Sat Oct 26, 2002 1:38 pm Subject: Re:Tangerine Dream in London Just went on the BBC News site and saw that the Astoria has had its license revoked by Westminster Council,they have till 27th of November to appeal,i wonder how many of us have bought tickets?hope they can sought the situation amicably,or perhaps a switch of venue. Heres hoping for good news. Best regards Colin Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36850 Re: Tangerine Dream in London Roger Hartopp gmroger Sun 10/27/2002 2 KB From: PENFOLD Date: Sat Oct 26, 2002 1:45 pm Subject: TD in USA So? any news of a possible US tour? or are we gonna have to wait almost another 10 years? jjonesin' for some Dream in LA Pete Isaacson aka °º¤ø,¸DJ DreamHead¸,ø¤º° mailto:penfold@a...?subject=DJDreamHead http://www.anet.net/~penfold/)^(djdreamhead.html Yahoo Chat: penfold235 ····· AIM: PENFOLD235 1984, Saw 'The Keep' LP at Tower Records, actually held it, didn't have the $$.....Damn!!!!! 'Absence of the KEEP LP is not evidence of its non-existence.' - Steven Feldman Watch the Coasters Grow! at: http://www.anet.net/~penfold/coastergarden.html From: 'Chris Owen' Date: Sat Oct 26, 2002 10:10 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] TD Live in the UK Seeing as how Ticketweb want an obscene £4.30 booking fee PER TCKET, I'm afraid I for one won't be going. I'd love to go, but this is extortion. - Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 4:46 AM Subject: [tadream] TD Live in the UK > Hello all UK TD Fans, > > this is a message from Colin: > > Hello > Just been informed by a fellow TD fan that Tangerine Dream are > playing at the London Astoria on saturday february 15th 2003,this is > splended news indeed,tickets are 20UK pounds,and can be purchased at > www.ticketweb.co.uk. Hope to see many other TD fans there.Gary thanks > again for the info,im well chuffed. > Best regards > Colin. > > Regards > heiko > www.opticaldream.de > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > From: 'vic rek' Date: Sat Oct 26, 2002 5:26 pm Subject: Looking for a few TD items + Inferno I think the Inferno show in London should be a great event - I hope to make it there. Some news on the bootleg front, I have identified two different Russian bootleg CDs of Inferno. Both look very similar to the original, exepect that the CDs have different numbers on them. And now maybe some fans can help me with these items: If you have these items and may consider a trade or swap/replacement, please contact me off list: Tangram CD - USA Carol 1805-2 Underwater Sunlight CD - Germany Jive 8.826377 ZP/244 547-2 Turn of the Tides CD - Canada CMPCD 2806 Tyger CD - Germany Ricochet/Rubycon CD - France Thanks, Vic Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36846 Re: Looking for a few TD items + Inferno Kees Aerts / Groove Unlimited groovekees Sat 10/26/2002 3 KB From: Kees Aerts / Groove Unlimited Date: Sat Oct 26, 2002 2:47 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] Looking for a few TD items + Inferno At 10:26 26-10-02 -0700, you wrote: >And now maybe some fans can help me with these items: >If you have these items and may consider a trade or swap/replacement, please >contact me off list: >Tangram CD - USA Carol 1805-2 >Underwater Sunlight CD - Germany Jive 8.826377 ZP/244 547-2 >Turn of the Tides CD - Canada CMPCD 2806 if this is the Miramar MPCD 2806 then we have it in our catalog for $ 12.49 >Tyger CD - Germany >Ricochet/Rubycon CD - France Many more TD items are currently listed go to www.groove.nl and click on CATALOG Best regards / Vriendelijke groeten, Kees GROOVE Unlimited (Specializing in Electronic Music) Kees Aerts PO Box 2171 8203 AD Lelystad the Netherlands Tel: +31 (0) 320 219496 ; Fax: +31 (0) 320 218910 http://www.groove.nl From: 'maggior' Date: Sat Oct 26, 2002 3:28 pm Subject: Tangerine Tree I and II Available for Trade I have an extra copy of both Tangerine Tree I and II because of a trade I had set up that unfortunately didn't come through. If you have something to trade and are interested in either (or both) of these, please contact me off list at maggior@m... Thanks, Rich Maggio http://home.mindspring.com/~maggior/ From: 'Colin Jouxson' Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 7:53 am Subject: Tangerine Tree 2 I was wondering if any person could supply me with the artwork for Tangerine Tree 2,i will of course pay all costs,if someone has them on CD that would be fine,your help would be very much appreciated. Best regards Colin. South Wales UK Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36849 Re: Tangerine Tree 2 René Brenner fairway_ch Sun 10/27/2002 3 KB From: René Brenner Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 9:50 am Subject: Re: [tadream] Tangerine Tree 2 It is available on the web: http://www.feldoncentral.com/tdtree/ Regards René On Sun, Oct 27, 2002 at 07:53:18 -0000, Colin Jouxson wrote: > I was wondering if any person could supply me with the artwork for > Tangerine Tree 2,i will of course pay all costs,if someone has them > on CD that would be fine,your help would be very much appreciated. > Best regards > Colin. > South Wales UK From: 'Roger Hartopp' Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 8:52 pm Subject: Re: Tangerine Dream in London Have to think about this one... another journey to the UK in February, the Astoria losing its licence, and the extortionate booking fee, not to mention spending a small fortune on a night there, and standing room onlyto watch perhaps only 79 minutes and 10 seconds? One will decide a little later, I think. Roger Hartopp (Now listening to TT9) From: 'Roger Hartopp' Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 9:02 pm Subject: Re: TT vol. 14 & live theories John Vertical wrote: 'I think TD was too humble in the 80s and the 70s when it came to live material. Much of it is far superior compared to what crap can be found from the market today... a 76, 81 or 88 live album would have sold like.. like... well, whatever you English people use in that phrase. But they didn't see it.' I think one has to think about the time here as well. I've been listening to their seventies concerts thanks to the trees and, whilst I find them enjoyable, I certainy wouldn't play them as often as say 'Ricochet' or 'Encore'. Sometimes a bit of studio manipulation may be necessary to get the albums a little more 'accessible'. I would have to say that seventies live TD was certainly not accessible to anybody but the fans and certainly Virgin would have baulked on the idea of trying to sell an album of improvised material only when they were frankly a major commercial company, and whilst Edgar might deny it, I think subconsiously he knew that. A 76, 81 or 88 album would not have sold like hot cakes (Logos, one of their best live albums in 1981, did not even make the British charts). Obviously today that climate has changed and TD's current studio material only appeals to the fans, those same fans who now have a deep interest in their history. Any other thoughts? Roger Hartopp From: 'Jens Kilian' Date: Mon Oct 28, 2002 11:19 pm Subject: [Germany] 'Kamikaze 1989' on TV Nov. 1st This may be of interest to list members from Germany and the neighboring countries... Fri Nov 1st, 22:35 SWR (Suedwestrundfunk) will show 'Kamikaze 1989' (see http://us.imdb.com/Title?0084191), soundtrack by Edgar Froese. HTH, Jens. -- mailto:jjk@a... phone:+49-7031-464-7698 (TELNET 778-7698) http://www.bawue.de/~jjk/ fax:+49-7031-464-7351 PGP: 06 04 1C 35 7B DC 1F 26 As the air to a bird, or the sea to a fish, 0x555DA8B5 BB A2 F0 66 77 75 E1 08 so is contempt to the contemptible. [Blake] From: Armin Theissen Date: Mon Oct 28, 2002 9:58 am Subject: test -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Armin dot Theissen at sun dot com phone x19080 SUN Microsystems Ireland 'To you I'm an atheist; to God, I'm the Loyal Opposition.' - Woody Allen From: TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak Date: Mon Oct 28, 2002 11:23 am Subject: Re: [tadream] TD Live in London At 09:28 26.10.02, you wrote: >Hi all just ordered my ticket for TD live at the London Astoria Sat >Feb 15/2/03 I assume this will be the Inferno concert. > >Cheers Gary > >PS Tickets available through ticketweb or ticketmaster £20.00. Dear Gary, no, this show will not be an Inferno- concert, but the first in a series of concerts in 2003 which will feature material from 1972-2002. Thus it will be aptly called the 'three decades'-show. We plan to do a few one-off concerts around the globe with this next year. London will be the first in line. Details will be posted to the website as soon as everything´s sorted 100% - but it doesn´t look like there´s anything that could stop this concert from happening. > Best regards, Martin Kasprzak TDI- Music- Support. Tel:-49-30-23620995 Fax:-49-30-23620996 Visit our Website at: http://www.tangerinedream.org [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36855 Re: TD Live in London Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Mon 10/28/2002 3 KB 36857 Re: TD Live in London orangefunk_2000 orangefunk_2000 Mon 10/28/2002 2 KB 36859 Re: TD Live in London Colin Jouxson convention24 Mon 10/28/2002 3 KB 36861 Re: TD Live in London Marcel Engels mars103nl Mon 10/28/2002 2 KB 36867 Re: TD Live in London Colin Jouxson convention24 Mon 10/28/2002 2 KB 36868 Re: TD Live in London Yanick Vigneault yanx_88 Mon 10/28/2002 2 KB 36880 Re: TD Live in London Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Mon 10/28/2002 2 KB 36862 Re: TD Live in London Jonathan Holt plantpot_73 Mon 10/28/2002 3 KB 37606 Re: TD Live in London Martin Mckee atroller2002 Wed 12/11/2002 2 KB From: Rainer Rutka Date: Mon Oct 28, 2002 10:53 am Subject: Re: [tadream] TD Live in London On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak wrote: > Dear Gary, > no, this show will not be an Inferno- concert, but the first in a series of > concerts in 2003 which will feature material from 1972-2002. Thus it will > be aptly called the 'three decades'-show. We plan to do a few one-off > concerts around the globe with this next year. London will be the first in > line. Fine! So I will order my ticket today :-) Rainer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ www.rutka.de/td - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From: 'Matthew Stringer' Date: Mon Oct 28, 2002 1:51 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] TD Live in the UK As I will have to go alone, is there any one in a similar position who fancies meeting up for the trip from Leeds? Cheers Matthew From: 'orangefunk_2000' Date: Mon Oct 28, 2002 2:06 pm Subject: Re: TD Live in London > concerts in 2003 which will feature material from 1972-2002. Thus it will > be aptly called the 'three decades'-show. We plan to do a few one- off > concerts around the globe with this next year. London will be the first in > line. Now this sounds fine, but will they play Rising Runner Missed by Endless Sender ;-) or even Wahn? ;-) Oh well... From: 'Paul Lawler' Date: Mon Oct 28, 2002 2:20 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: TD Live in London Do TDI have a second venue in place if this venue doesn`t keep its licence ?? Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: 'orangefunk_2000' To: Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 2:06 PM Subject: [tadream] Re: TD Live in London > > > concerts in 2003 which will feature material from 1972-2002. Thus > it will > > be aptly called the 'three decades'-show. We plan to do a few one- > off > > concerts around the globe with this next year. London will be the > first in > > line. > > Now this sounds fine, but will they play Rising Runner Missed by > Endless Sender ;-) > > or even Wahn? ;-) > > Oh well... > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > From: 'Colin Jouxson' Date: Mon Oct 28, 2002 5:43 pm Subject: Re: TD Live in London --- In tadream@y..., TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak wrote: > At 09:28 26.10.02, you wrote: > >Hi all just ordered my ticket for TD live at the London Astoria Sat > >Feb 15/2/03 I assume this will be the Inferno concert. > > > >Cheers Gary > > > >PS Tickets available through ticketweb or ticketmaster £20.00. > > Dear Gary, > > no, this show will not be an Inferno- concert, but the first in a series of > concerts in 2003 which will feature material from 1972-2002. Thus it will > be aptly called the 'three decades'-show. We plan to do a few one- off > concerts around the globe with this next year. London will be the first in > line. Fantastic news,1972 to 2002,ive just felt an overwhelming surge of joy in my pants,the thought is to much to bare. > > Details will be posted to the website as soon as everything´s sorted 100% - > but it doesn´t look like there´s anything that could stop this concert from > happening. > > > > > Best regards, > > Martin Kasprzak > TDI- Music- Support. > Tel:-49-30-23620995 > Fax:-49-30-23620996 > > Visit our Website at: > > http://www.tangerinedream.org > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36861 Re: TD Live in London Marcel Engels mars103nl Mon 10/28/2002 2 KB 36867 Re: TD Live in London Colin Jouxson convention24 Mon 10/28/2002 2 KB 36868 Re: TD Live in London Yanick Vigneault yanx_88 Mon 10/28/2002 2 KB 36880 Re: TD Live in London Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Mon 10/28/2002 2 KB From: Rainer Rutka Date: Mon Oct 28, 2002 5:52 pm Subject: Underground VCD news by Rainer ! Hi! Some 'Underground' news: I made an update on my UNDERGROUND page. Included you will find a first pre-sight of the booklet! Just visit the site to see some new infos, pictures and more.... Rainer 'Don't kill me: It's a piece of history!' ------------------------------------------------------------------------ www.rutka.de/td - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From: 'Marcel Engels' Date: Mon Oct 28, 2002 6:09 pm Subject: RE: [tadream] Re: TD Live in London > From: Colin Jouxson [mailto:convention24@y...] > > Fantastic news,1972 to 2002,ive just felt an overwhelming surge of > joy in my pants,the thought is to much to bare. Sounds interesting but what are they going to play from '72-'75? Maybe they will surprise us and go on stage with big Moogs and mellotrons and do some '74/'75 improvisation? :-) Marcel http://home.wanadoo.nl/mengels mengels@w... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36867 Re: TD Live in London Colin Jouxson convention24 Mon 10/28/2002 2 KB 36868 Re: TD Live in London Yanick Vigneault yanx_88 Mon 10/28/2002 2 KB 36880 Re: TD Live in London Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Mon 10/28/2002 2 KB From: Jonathan Holt Date: Mon Oct 28, 2002 6:12 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] TD Live in London Oh Dear God (or Edgar or Martin etc.) PLEASE come to Toronto, Canada. Please (begins weeping like a girl) PLEEEEEAAAASSSEEEEE!!!!!!! --- TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak wrote: > At 09:28 26.10.02, you wrote: > >Hi all just ordered my ticket for TD live at the > London Astoria Sat > >Feb 15/2/03 I assume this will be the Inferno > concert. > > > >Cheers Gary > > > >PS Tickets available through ticketweb or > ticketmaster £20.00. > > Dear Gary, > > no, this show will not be an Inferno- concert, but > the first in a series of > concerts in 2003 which will feature material from > 1972-2002. Thus it will > be aptly called the 'three decades'-show. We plan to > do a few one-off > concerts around the globe with this next year. > London will be the first in > line. > > Details will be posted to the website as soon as > everything´s sorted 100% - > but it doesn´t look like there´s anything that could > stop this concert from > happening. > > > > > Best regards, > > Martin Kasprzak > TDI- Music- Support. > Tel:-49-30-23620995 > Fax:-49-30-23620996 > > Visit our Website at: > > http://www.tangerinedream.org > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: > mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 37606 Re: TD Live in London Martin Mckee atroller2002 Wed 12/11/2002 2 KB From: 'Gary Jenkins' Date: Mon Oct 28, 2002 6:15 pm Subject: Re: TD Live in London --- In tadream@y..., TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak wrote: > At 09:28 26.10.02, you wrote: Thanks Martin looking forward to it even more. Cheers Gary > >Hi all just ordered my ticket for TD live at the London Astoria Sat > >Feb 15/2/03 I assume this will be the Inferno concert. > > > >Cheers Gary > > > >PS Tickets available through ticketweb or ticketmaster £20.00. > > Dear Gary, > > no, this show will not be an Inferno- concert, but the first in a series of > concerts in 2003 which will feature material from 1972-2002. Thus it will > be aptly called the 'three decades'-show. We plan to do a few one- off > concerts around the globe with this next year. London will be the first in > line. > > Details will be posted to the website as soon as everything´s sorted 100% - > but it doesn´t look like there´s anything that could stop this concert from > happening. > > > > > Best regards, > > Martin Kasprzak > TDI- Music- Support. > Tel:-49-30-23620995 > Fax:-49-30-23620996 > > Visit our Website at: > > http://www.tangerinedream.org > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From: 'tei waz' Date: Mon Oct 28, 2002 6:37 pm Subject: re live 3 decades show Martin wrote: >the 'three decades'-show. We plan to do a few one-off concerts around the >globe with this next year. London will be the first in line. Details will be posted to the website as soon as everything´s sorted 100% - but it doesn´t look like there´s anything that could stop this concert from happening.< hmm, why does that last sentence seem so foreboding to me? --T np Grateful Dead--Built to Last _________________________________________________________________ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36865 Re: re live 3 decades show thomas.soucheleau@n... canadiurne Mon 10/28/2002 2 KB From: thomas.soucheleau@n... Date: Mon Oct 28, 2002 11:14 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] re live 3 decades show Wow! 1972 - 2002! Are they going to play Zeit? May be as chill out music before the show. Or may be they'll play a huge remix of pheadra... ------------------------------------------------------------- NetCourrier, votre bureau virtuel sur Internet : Mail, Agenda, Clubs, Toolbar... Web/Wap : www.netcourrier.com Téléphone/Fax : 08 92 69 00 21 (0,34 € TTC/min) Minitel: 3615 NETCOURRIER (0,15 € TTC/min) From: 'Roger Hartopp' Date: Mon Oct 28, 2002 7:01 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] Digest Number 1547 ----- Original Message ----- From: 'Roger Hartopp' Subject: Re: Tangerine Dream in London ... and standing room onlyto watch perhaps only 79 minutes and 10 seconds? Roger Hartopp and Martin wrote: 'no, this show will not be an Inferno- concert, but the first in a series of concerts in 2003 which will feature material from 1972-2002. Thus it will be aptly called the 'three decades'-show. We plan to do a few one-off concerts around the globe with this next year. London will be the first in line.' That's great news - chances of getting my ticket for the UK are getting better. TD obviously love Poland - will they be coming here? An open air concert on the Blonia would be great! Roger Hartopp ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:02:15 +0100 From: 'Roger Hartopp' Subject: Re: TT vol. 14 & live theories John Vertical wrote: 'I think TD was too humble in the 80s and the 70s when it came to live material. Much of it is far superior compared to what crap can be found from the market today... a 76, 81 or 88 live album would have sold like.. like... well, whatever you English people use in that phrase. But they didn't see it.' I think one has to think about the time here as well. I've been listening to their seventies concerts thanks to the trees and, whilst I find them enjoyable, I certainy wouldn't play them as often as say 'Ricochet' or 'Encore'. Sometimes a bit of studio manipulation may be necessary to get the albums a little more 'accessible'. I would have to say that seventies live TD was certainly not accessible to anybody but the fans and certainly Virgin would have baulked on the idea of trying to sell an album of improvised material only when they were frankly a major commercial company, and whilst Edgar might deny it, I think subconsiously he knew that. A 76, 81 or 88 album would not have sold like hot cakes (Logos, one of their best live albums in 1981, did not even make the British charts). Obviously today that climate has changed and TD's current studio material only appeals to the fans, those same fans who now have a deep interest in their history. Any other thoughts? Roger Hartopp ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:19:10 MET From: 'Jens Kilian' Subject: [Germany] 'Kamikaze 1989' on TV Nov. 1st This may be of interest to list members from Germany and the neighboring countries... Fri Nov 1st, 22:35 SWR (Suedwestrundfunk) will show 'Kamikaze 1989' (see http://us.imdb.com/Title?0084191), soundtrack by Edgar Froese. HTH, Jens. -- mailto:jjk@a... phone:+49-7031-464-7698 (TELNET 778-7698) http://www.bawue.de/~jjk/ fax:+49-7031-464-7351 PGP: 06 04 1C 35 7B DC 1F 26 As the air to a bird, or the sea to a fish, 0x555DA8B5 BB A2 F0 66 77 75 E1 08 so is contempt to the contemptible. [Blake] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:58:42 +0000 From: Armin Theissen Subject: test -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Armin dot Theissen at sun dot com phone x19080 SUN Microsystems Ireland 'To you I'm an atheist; to God, I'm the Loyal Opposition.' - Woody Allen ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:23:01 +0100 From: TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak Subject: Re: TD Live in London At 09:28 26.10.02, you wrote: >Hi all just ordered my ticket for TD live at the London Astoria Sat >Feb 15/2/03 I assume this will be the Inferno concert. > >Cheers Gary > >PS Tickets available through ticketweb or ticketmaster £20.00. Dear Gary, no, this show will not be an Inferno- concert, but the first in a series of concerts in 2003 which will feature material from 1972-2002. Thus it will be aptly called the 'three decades'-show. We plan to do a few one-off concerts around the globe with this next year. London will be the first in line. Details will be posted to the website as soon as everything´s sorted 100% - but it doesn´t look like there´s anything that could stop this concert from happening. > Best regards, Martin Kasprzak TDI- Music- Support. Tel:-49-30-23620995 Fax:-49-30-23620996 Visit our Website at: http://www.tangerinedream.org [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:53:56 +0100 (MET) From: Rainer Rutka Subject: Re: TD Live in London On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak wrote: > Dear Gary, > no, this show will not be an Inferno- concert, but the first in a series of > concerts in 2003 which will feature material from 1972-2002. Thus it will > be aptly called the 'three decades'-show. We plan to do a few one-off > concerts around the globe with this next year. London will be the first in > line. Fine! So I will order my ticket today :-) Rainer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ www.rutka.de/td - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36904 Re: Digest Number 1547 jarek@w... jerryplpl Tue 10/29/2002 2 KB 37412 Edgar's song jarek@w... jerryplpl Tue 12/3/2002 2 KB 37426 Re: Edgar's song Jonathan Holt plantpot_73 Wed 12/4/2002 2 KB 37433 Re: Edgar's song TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak manicmort Thu 12/5/2002 3 KB 37448 Re: Edgar's song Yanick Vigneault yanx_88 Thu 12/5/2002 3 KB 37440 Re: Edgar's song John Vertical omegatransfinito Thu 12/5/2002 2 KB 37454 Re: Edgar's song jarek@w... jerryplpl Thu 12/5/2002 3 KB 37446 Re: Edgar's song Marion Horrod MarionHorrod Thu 12/5/2002 2 KB 37447 Re: Edgar's song Jonathan Holt plantpot_73 Thu 12/5/2002 3 KB From: 'Colin Jouxson' Date: Mon Oct 28, 2002 7:54 pm Subject: Re: TD Live in London --- In tadream@y..., 'Marcel Engels' wrote: > > From: Colin Jouxson [mailto:convention24@y...] > > > > Fantastic news,1972 to 2002,ive just felt an overwhelming surge of > > joy in my pants,the thought is to much to bare. > > Sounds interesting but what are they going to play > from '72-'75? > Maybe they will surprise us and go on stage with big > Moogs and mellotrons and do some '74/'75 improvisation? :-) > > Marcel > http://home.wanadoo.nl/mengels > mengels@w... He He He,i likes that,they could drag out the Modular moog,but even i know that wont happen(or do miracles occur)? an excerpt of Rubycon in any shape or form will do nicely.How about Free System Project as Support,that would be nice. Best regards Colin. From: 'Yanick Vigneault' Date: Mon Oct 28, 2002 7:58 pm Subject: Re: TD Live in London --- In tadream@y..., 'Marcel Engels' wrote: > > From: Colin Jouxson [mailto:convention24@y...] > > > > Fantastic news,1972 to 2002,ive just felt an overwhelming surge of > > joy in my pants,the thought is to much to bare. > > Sounds interesting but what are they going to play > from '72-'75? > Maybe they will surprise us and go on stage with big > Moogs and mellotrons and do some '74/'75 improvisation? :-) > > Marcel > http://home.wanadoo.nl/mengels > mengels@w... And we want Free System Project for the first part of the gig!!! Yan Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36880 Re: TD Live in London Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Mon 10/28/2002 2 KB From: 'Roger Hartopp' Date: Mon Oct 28, 2002 7:09 pm Subject: Whoops... Sorry, hit send before editing my entry. Should have known better. Maybe I'm getting excited... Roger [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From: 'Roger Hartopp' Date: Mon Oct 28, 2002 7:20 pm Subject: TD in London/How would you react if you were asked to support TD? --- In tadream@y..., 'Yanick Vigneault' wrote: > --- In tadream@y..., 'Marcel Engels' wrote: > > > From: Colin Jouxson [mailto:convention24@y...] > > > > > > Fantastic news,1972 to 2002,ive just felt an overwhelming surge > of > > > joy in my pants,the thought is to much to bare. Erm, the mind boggles... > > Sounds interesting but what are they going to play > > from '72-'75? > > Maybe they will surprise us and go on stage with big > > Moogs and mellotrons and do some '74/'75 improvisation? :-) > > > > Marcel > > http://home.wanadoo.nl/mengels > > mengels@w... > > And we want Free System Project for the first part of the gig!!! > > Yan Hypothetical situation. Messrs Marcel Engels, Paul Lawler, Mark Jenkins or any other EM musician on this list. How would you react if you got a phone call asking if you would like to support the band for the gig? Just curious... Roger Hartopp [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36871 Re: TD in London/How would you react if you were asked to support TD Paul Lawler lawlermusic Mon 10/28/2002 3 KB 36876 Re: TD in London/How would you react if you were asked to support TD Marcel Engels mars103nl Mon 10/28/2002 2 KB 36877 Re: TD in London/How would you react if you were asked to support TD John McIntyre mcinty10 Mon 10/28/2002 2 KB 36879 Re: TD in London/How would you react if you were asked to support TD Antonio Nunes ajogon Mon 10/28/2002 2 KB 36884 Re: TD in London/How would you react if you were asked to support TD Craig Padilla synthwiz Mon 10/28/2002 3 KB 36899 Re: TD in London/How would you react if you were asked to support TD fozziebear fozziebearbeehive Tue 10/29/2002 2 KB 36905 Re: TD in London/How would you react if you were asked to support TD Scott Roget1998 Tue 10/29/2002 2 KB From: 'Paul Lawler' Date: Mon Oct 28, 2002 8:17 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] TD in London/How would you react if you were asked to support TD? ----- Original Message ----- From: 'Roger Hartopp' To: Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 7:20 PM Subject: [tadream] TD in London/How would you react if you were asked to support TD? > Hypothetical situation. > > Messrs Marcel Engels, Paul Lawler, Mark Jenkins or any other EM musician on this list. > How would you react if you got a phone call asking if you would like to support the band for the gig? > I`d wonder if they would be embarrassed having to follow me ;) Paul ps ....that was only a joke ! From: 'John Vertical' Date: Mon Oct 28, 2002 8:19 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: TD Live in London > > concerts in 2003 which will feature material from 1972-2002. Thus >it will > > be aptly called the 'three decades'-show. We plan to do a few one- >off > > concerts around the globe with this next year. London will be the >first in > > line. > >Now this sounds fine, but will they play Rising Runner Missed by >Endless Sender ;-) > >or even Wahn? ;-) > >Oh well... 1972? I suppose this means the Dream Roots / iBox remixes of Zeit... Will there be a tracklist avaivable? A long-awaited live version of Cloudburst Flight, perhaps...? (And presumably even we who are unable to attend could hear it then via TT? :-) John Vertical _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36889 Re: TD Live in London Marko Marin rubyconist Tue 10/29/2002 2 KB From: David Butler Date: Mon Oct 28, 2002 8:28 pm Subject: Martin's reply Martin wrote... no, this show will not be an Inferno- concert, but the first in a series of concerts in 2003 which will feature material from 1972-2002. Thus it will be aptly called the 'three decades'-show. We plan to do a few one-off concerts around the globe with this next year. London will be the first in line... What? What about 1971? Sheez, what a ripoff. I was hoping for a complete rendition of Electronic Meditation....David __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ From: 'John Vertical' Date: Mon Oct 28, 2002 8:39 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: TT vol. 14 & live theories >John Vertical wrote: > >'I think TD was too humble in the 80s and the 70s when it came to live >material. Much of it is far superior compared to what crap can be found >from >the market today... a 76, 81 or 88 live album would have sold like.. >like... >well, whatever you English people use in that phrase. But they didn't see >it.' > >I would have to say that seventies live >TD was certainly not accessible to anybody but the fans and certainly >Virgin >would have baulked on the idea of trying to sell an album of improvised >material only when they were frankly a major commercial company, and whilst >Edgar might deny it, I think subconsiously he knew that. A 76, 81 or 88 >album would not have sold like hot cakes (Logos, one of their best live >albums in 1981, did not even make the British charts). Obviously today that >climate has changed and TD's current studio material only appeals to the >fans, those same fans who now have a deep interest in their history. > >Any other thoughts? > >Roger Hartopp By 'much' I didn't mean much by percentage (let alone 'all'!) - moreso 'much' in terms of amount, ie at least few CDs worth. Such unreleased tracks - Thermal Inversion, TT vol.1, and, umm.. some TT vol. 4 bits... and... err.. Okay, most of the great live tracks (Silver Scale, Cool Breeze of Brighton, etc...) actually have been released - but years after their original recording. Apparently Edgar was saving them for a better time to release. And why does an album have to top charts in order to sell well? If it sells averagely for 20 years, it will be a lot of money that way, too. John Vertical _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free!  Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp From: 'tei waz' Date: Mon Oct 28, 2002 8:58 pm Subject: charts shmarts/one-off gigs >And why does an album have to top charts in order to sell well? If it sells >averagely for 20 years, it will be a lot of money that way, too. If it's a slow sales month it could amount to fewer dollars/pounds/euros, but higher charting..... but I do believe how the charts track today is quite differently done that charts of old--so it's quite like comparing apples to tangerines. >1972 rats, that means no ultima thule --T _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month.  Try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp From: 'Marcel Engels' Date: Mon Oct 28, 2002 9:12 pm Subject: RE: [tadream] TD in London/How would you react if you were asked to support TD? > From: Roger Hartopp [mailto:gmroger@p...] > > Hypothetical situation. > > Messrs Marcel Engels, Paul Lawler, Mark Jenkins or any other > EM musician on this list. > How would you react if you got a phone call asking if you > would like to support the band for the gig? Never thought about that actually. I think I would find it a bit strange, somehow I think it wouldn't feel right. Did they ever had any support acts in the past? Marcel http://home.wanadoo.nl/mengels mengels@w... From: John McIntyre Date: Mon Oct 28, 2002 9:37 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] TD in London/How would you react if you were asked to support TD? Marcel Engels wrote: > Did they ever had any support acts in the past? > Andy Summers opened for the Optical Race tour. John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre@p... From: Olav Neander Date: Mon Oct 28, 2002 9:45 pm Subject: Did anyone see the Hannover show in january 1981? I just got my tickets for the London show, and I found out that it's almost 21 years since I last saw the band in a concert, it was in Hannover, january 1981, Froese, Franke, and Schmoelling, a great concert... Did anybody of you see this show? Is there a bootleg from this one? All the best, Olav BTW, I just released a Berlin School inspired CD - http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/cds/239/239583.html From: Antonio Nunes Date: Mon Oct 28, 2002 9:48 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] TD in London/How would you react if you were asked to support TD? John McIntyre wrote: > > Marcel Engels wrote: > > > Did they ever had any support acts in the past? > > > Andy Summers opened for the Optical Race tour. The Street Kids opened for the 1980 Portuguese tour. Antonio Nunes From: Rainer Rutka Date: Mon Oct 28, 2002 10:05 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: TD Live in London > And we want Free System Project for the first part of the gig!!! what's about REDSHIFT :-) ? 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Thursdays at 11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic All times are GMT-5:00 To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emusic-wdiy and click on [Join This Group!] Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN Personal site: http://soundscapes.us/~bill All times are GMT-5:00 SOUNDSCAPES Concert Series: http://soundscapes.us From: 'Administrator' Date: Mon Oct 28, 2002 10:11 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: TD Live in London Lucky you guys... Perhaps us poor common folk in the colonies will get a visit as well. Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: 'Rainer Rutka' To: Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: TD Live in London > > And we want Free System Project for the first part of the gig!!! > what's about REDSHIFT :-) ? > > Rainer > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > www.rutka.de/td > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > From: Date: Mon Oct 28, 2002 10:27 pm Subject: USA tour dates????? Hello Martin, Is there any word, or a hint of a word, or even a thought in passing, of touring the USA any time soon????? Thanks Neal Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36885 Re: USA tour dates????? Glenn Folkvord - Hyperion Media glennfolkvord Mon 10/28/2002 2 KB 36888 Re: USA tour dates????? Robert Asmus plastics67 Tue 10/29/2002 3 KB 36890 Re: USA tour dates????? John Vertical omegatransfinito Tue 10/29/2002 2 KB 36892 Re: USA tour dates????? Armin Theissen armin_theissen Tue 10/29/2002 3 KB 36895 Re: USA tour dates????? Olav Neander Tue 10/29/2002 2 KB From: 'Glenn Folkvord - Hyperion Media' Date: Mon Oct 28, 2002 11:23 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] USA tour dates????? ----- Original Message ----- From: > Hello Martin, > > Is there any word, or a hint of a word, or even a thought in passing, of > touring the USA any time soon????? At least the USA has had TD there in the past. What about Scandinavia? When will TD visit us? Glenn http://www.jarretribute.com From: 'tei waz' Date: Mon Oct 28, 2002 11:40 pm Subject: > Did they ever had any support acts in the past? >Did they ever had any support acts in the past? yes, Spinal Tap on 15 november 1986. oh wait, members of spinal tap emceed. Openers included stewart copeland with adrian belew and stanley clarke, ry cooder and david lindley, harry dean stanton..... what am I talking about? Music in the Movies, of course! --T _________________________________________________________________ Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From: Morgan Feldon Date: Tue Oct 29, 2002 12:11 am Subject: 1981 Show >I just got my tickets for the London show, and I found out that it's >almost 21 years since I last saw the band in a concert, it was in >Hannover, january 1981, Froese, Franke, and Schmoelling, a great concert... > >Did anybody of you see this show? Is there a bootleg from this one? > >All the best, Olav There is a bootleg, yes. If you are happy just to have an excellent recording of the Jan-Feb 1981 tour, get the Paris 81 show on Tangerine Tree 2. If you want that particular show, ask and ye shall receive off-list offers. -Morgan From: 'Robert Asmus' Date: Tue Oct 29, 2002 10:51 am Subject: RE: [tadream] USA tour dates????? On Lou's interview with Edgar, Edgar mentioned that they will be playing sometime next year in Atlanta to record the second part of the Inferno series live. But he did not give an exact date Robert -----Original Message----- From: strat95@b... [mailto:strat95@b...] Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 5:28 PM To: tadream@yahoogroups.com Subject: [tadream] USA tour dates????? Hello Martin, Is there any word, or a hint of a word, or even a thought in passing, of touring the USA any time soon????? Thanks Neal ----------------------------------------------------_- To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ----------------------------------------------------_- Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ Tangerine Tree info at http://www.tadream.net/tree Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From: Marko Marin Date: Tue Oct 29, 2002 6:53 am Subject: [tadream] Re: TD Live in London --- John Vertical wrote: > Will there be a tracklist avaivable? A long-awaited > live version of > Cloudburst Flight, perhaps...? Doesn't Franke's London Concert contain a live version of Cloudburst? That isn't TD-performance but still... Regards, Marko Marin ===== __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ From: 'John Vertical' Date: Tue Oct 29, 2002 2:54 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] USA tour dates????? > > Is there any word, or a hint of a word, or even a thought in passing, of > > touring the USA any time soon????? > >At least the USA has had TD there in the past. What about Scandinavia? When >will TD visit us? > >Glenn I'll 2nd that! If you think that a whole tour would be too expensive, just have a one-off concert in, umm, let's say Stockholm. (Of course Helsinki would be my ideal choice, but this place probably just wouldn't attract enough TD fans...) John vertical _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From: 'colin anderson' Date: Tue Oct 29, 2002 12:05 pm Subject: Re: TD live in London ...concerts in 2003 which will feature material from 1972-2002. >>> Hurrah! And hopefully we'll never hear of Dante's Inferno - aka Overindulgence City, Arizona - ever again...... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36894 Inferno, Comedy... Gustavo Jobim gustavojobim2 Tue 10/29/2002 2 KB 36907 Re: TD live in London Greg expressionistix Tue 10/29/2002 2 KB 36911 TD live in London Marion Horrod MarionHorrod Wed 10/30/2002 2 KB 37609 Re: TD live in London Mark Willcocks the_supertwister Wed 12/11/2002 4 KB From: Armin Theissen Date: Tue Oct 29, 2002 3:37 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] USA tour dates????? John Vertical wrote: > > > I'll 2nd that! If you think that a whole tour would be too > expensive, just have a one-off concert in, umm, let's say > Stockholm. (Of course Helsinki would be my ideal choice, but this > place probably just wouldn't attract enough TD fans...) why not? with the Leningrad Cowboys as support, that would be cool! Or think of Apocalyptica performing a cello rendition of Mojave Plan! ;-) armin > > John vertical > > _________________________________________________________________ Surf > the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp > > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- To > unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ----------------------------------------------------_- > > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Armin dot Theissen at sun dot com phone x19080 SUN Microsystems Ireland 'To you I'm an atheist; to God, I'm the Loyal Opposition.' - Woody Allen From: olle.rundgren@s... Date: Tue Oct 29, 2002 4:17 pm Subject: TT 2 - review 1 Royal Albert Hall '75 The Crown Jewel of this package. I'm deeply impressed by the way those (lost) last minutes of Set 1 has been added. He/she who did this work should feel very proud. Excellent. This concert is marvellous. An amplified Rubycon; exactly the inspirational music that got me so attracted to this group back in the 70's. Must be the best unreleased material around. It simply doesn't get any better. Amazing stuff. 2 Newcastle The sound on Mojave Plan is somewhat 'canned' to my surprise, cause it ain't so on the version I have since before. Also a drop out around 6.30 into Thermal inversion. Otherwise great quality. I'm not to keen on this concert though. Most of the music is to be found in better versions on other concert recordings. 3 Hamburg 78 Decent but not superb quality. Music-wise I would rather recommend Valencia and/or London from the same year. Not a very good year at that. They were desperately searching for something on this tour and they managed to make the lack of Baumann appear even more substantial than it actually was (ref. RAH 75). 4 Croydon '82 Very good sound quality, only minimal exception is the adjustment of sound-level at about 4-20-4.30 into track 2, Heritage Survival (where do these track names stem from by the way?). This concert is definately a few notches better than Newcastle, much more inspired with a crisper, more spacy sound, lacking the exaggerated sequencing/drumming of many recordings from '81. Disc 2 is all well-known stuff but the sound quality is great. 5 Mannheim/Saarbrücken Very good sound-quality. In track 2 there's half a minute of somewhat scratchy sound starting at around 7.15, otherwise fine. Track 2 reminds me of Coldwater Canyon by the way. Saarbrücken is actually the concert that lifts this volume above average. Especially the first part is good. It doesn't sound much like any other '76 show I've heard (and can remember). Strikes me as older material; that is, performed on equipment from '76 but using ideas from '73, or something. Sound-quality is fine. 6 Paris Bataclan A new one for me, and definately the best so far from '81. It really adds something; It's livelier. The second CD is the most interesting of the two. It melts the rhytmic tradition of the 80's very well together with the more celestial approach of the 70's. And an interesting point about the encores: Pick almost any concert from the 80's (the beginning excluded) and note how TD chose to use crowd pleasers as encores. Just listen carefully and You'll actually hear someone humming along with the first encore. Imagine that happening in the 70's. Forgot to mention that the sound quality is of course superb. Warszaw '01 This one is good to have as a memory since I was there to see the show. However it was a surprise to learn how little I actually remember of it. Listening to disc 1 made me think; 'well it wasn't that bad'. CD 2, however, is desperately lacking in character. Even tracks from the 90's that I do enjoy (Towards the Evening star, Beauty of the Blast) is molded into what seems like endless jamming. CD 3 picks up somewhat, with cover versions of earlier TD material. However it's rare that covers exceed the originals in quality and here they very definately don't. The idea of including the press conference was a good one (even though I'll probably change my mind after the fifth listen). It's obvious that Edgar (TD) has a special relation to Poland and it was good to hear the story behind why that Polish singer suddenly appeared on stage. Ok, that's about it. Thanks to Heikko, a special thank to the masterful sound-editing of RAH '75 set 1, and of course to everyone else involved. Everything is just great with these TT-packages, I just have a few minor suggestions and one question: 1) If there will be more 3 CD- concerts, please do artwork also for CD boxes. It's unnecessary to divide a concert into two volumes. Furthermore I have so many of those big double-CD cases that I want to make good use of. And by the way what happened to the volume numbers at the spine used in TT 1? 2) If there is a choice between various concerts for TT 3, put Shepherds Bush '01 on hold for a while. It's very much same- same as Warszaw. Q) The Staatsgrenze West/White Cloths concert, from Jan.80 remains my favourite from that decade. Will it be part of any future package? Goodnight! /Olle Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36896 Re: TT 2 - review Matthew Sawyer matthewsawyer Tue 10/29/2002 3 KB 36897 TT 2 - review Morgan Feldon feldon23 Tue 10/29/2002 2 KB 36901 Re: TT 2 - review John Vertical omegatransfinito Tue 10/29/2002 2 KB 36908 Re: TT 2 - review Morgan Feldon feldon23 Wed 10/30/2002 2 KB From: Gustavo Jobim Date: Tue Oct 29, 2002 11:24 pm Subject: Inferno, Comedy... Hello everyone, I always see 'Inferno part 2' being mentioned. I haven't still really got this. The thing is going to be about the three parts of Dante's Comedy, right? So we'll have Inferno part 1 and 2, and Purgatory then Paradise? Or each part of the Comedy will be divided in 2 parts? Or is this 'part 2' already the Purgatory? Were I supposed to know all about this already? I have to say (again) that Inferno is, for me, probably the most interesting TD work from the last years. Curious Gustavo Jobim gustavojobim@n... From: Olav Neander Date: Tue Oct 29, 2002 4:56 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] USA tour dates????? John Vertical schrieb: >I'll 2nd that! If you think that a whole tour would be too expensive, just have a one-off concert in, umm, let's say Stockholm. >(Of course Helsinki would be my ideal choice, but this place probably just >wouldn't attract enough TD fans...) > On th eother hand... London is only two and a half hours from Oslo... :-) Olav -- Electronic Dreamscapes from Norway - http://www.mp3.com/autopoiesis - ICQ# 9622825 From: 'Matthew Sawyer' Date: Tue Oct 29, 2002 6:10 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] TT 2 - review From: > Heritage Survival (where do > these track names stem from by the way?). Part of this track turned up (with an annoying guitar overlaid on top) on the official Keep TDI album with that title. We're using established official titles where possible, and common bootleg titles elsewhere (ie Thermal Inversion). > 1) If there will be more 3 CD- concerts, please do artwork also for CD > boxes. It's unnecessary to divide a concert into two volumes. It's a personal choice but I'd prefer to split them. I find those larger 4 CD cases clumsy and extremely ugly next to regular cases. It'll bugger up the spine images too. > And by the way what happened to the volume numbers at > the spine used in TT 1? The same thing that happened to the TT logo and text on the spine - they looked bloody awful when printed up and lined up on a shelf, so I junked them. If I get the time I may go back and fix the TT#1 spine. > 2) If there is a choice between various concerts for TT 3, put Shepherds > Bush '01 on hold for a while. It's very much same- same as Warszaw. It's already been put on hold for TT4 to make room for more '76 material. > Q) The Staatsgrenze West/White Cloths concert, from Jan.80 remains my > favourite from that decade. Will it be part of any future package? It'll be in TT#3. Maff _________________________________________________ www.tachyon-tv.co.uk www.tangent.da.ru www.mst3uk.com From: Morgan Feldon Date: Tue Oct 29, 2002 6:34 pm Subject: TT 2 - review Re: your review, I have to say I find Saarbrucken lacking energy. I am happy to get this concert though since before this tape was found, we only had a tape with miserable quality. Mannheim is a nice show for me because of the energy. It's not in the top 10 concerts for 76 but it's still pleasant. I love the Newcastle and Paris 81 shows both. >Q) The Staatsgrenze West/White Cloths concert, from Jan.80 remains my >favourite from that decade. Will it be part of any future package? That's volume 17 of Tangerine Tree 3. -Morgan P.S. For anyone who's going nuts over the new 1976.01.12 Bordeaux, France show, it is always nice to have a new concert and a piece of TD history. But, I have to agree with Klaus B.'s assessment of the quality, it's a 4/10, possibly a 5.5/10 with remastering. And musically, it has about the same energy as the Saarbrucken show. From: 'fozziebear' Date: Tue Oct 29, 2002 12:25 am Subject: TD Live in London I'm pleased that TD will be playing again. I do hope that they will perform Inferno in London some time. It is a shame that the ticket agents are ripping the public off with high prices. They must be about as popular as traffic wardens and estate agents! Their fees are about 20 - 25% of the price! I haven't checked if the venue is selling them direct. Has anyone had the time to check? David [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From: 'fozziebear' Date: Tue Oct 29, 2002 6:47 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] TD in London/How would you react if you were asked to support TD? Marcel Engels said Did they ever had any support acts in the past? I know there are some people on this list who have seen TD before I did. I have seen them since 1978 and they have not had a support act. The closest they came to having one was the playing of Ambient Monkeys whilst everyone filed in. David From: 'fozziebear' Date: Tue Oct 29, 2002 6:52 pm Subject: TD in London I was referring to the times I have seen TD in the UK. David [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From: 'John Vertical' Date: Tue Oct 29, 2002 7:39 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] TT 2 - review >Re: your review, I have to say I find Saarbrucken lacking energy. I am >happy to get this concert though since before this tape was found, we only >had a tape with miserable quality. Mannheim is a nice show for me because >of the energy. It's not in the top 10 concerts for 76 but it's still >pleasant. Does all live material have to be energetic? I like it better than Mannheim pretty much for the same reasons as Olle - it's '73-ish', nicely experimental. Oh, and I find Saarbr. pt 2 (instead of Mannh. pt 2) pretty similar to Coldwater Canyon, at least the first half. In general mood, that is... John Vertical _________________________________________________________________ Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From: 'Chris Owen' Date: Wed Oct 30, 2002 3:38 am Subject: Re: [tadream] TD Live in London Attention anyone planning to go to TD live in London! To avoid the obscene booking fee of the online ticket agencies, you can get your tickets directly from the Astoria. The telephone number is 020 7434 9592. You can send them a cheque and an SAE, and they only charge 50p extra per ticket as a booking fee, which is much more like it I'm sure you'll all agree. I called this evening, and was told by the guy to ring after 10am tomorrow morning (Wednesday), so call them tomorrow and not this evening. - Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: fozziebear To: Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 4:25 PM Subject: [tadream] TD Live in London > I'm pleased that TD will be playing again. I do hope that they will perform Inferno in London some time. > > It is a shame that the ticket agents are ripping the public off with high prices. They must be about as popular as traffic wardens and estate agents! Their fees are about 20 - 25% of the price! I haven't checked if the venue is selling them direct. Has anyone had the time to check? > > David > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > From: Date: Tue Oct 29, 2002 8:52 pm Subject: RE: [tadream] TD Live in London Hi guys, > no, this show will not be an Inferno- concert, but the first > in a series of > concerts in 2003 which will feature material from 1972-2002. Well, what about the line-up? Who will be playing??? Any ideas? cheers Jarek 'Jerry' mailto:jarek@w... Visit my websites at: http://www.tangerinedream.pl/ http://www.klausmusic.pl/ http://www.wiktorowicz.pl/ From: Date: Tue Oct 29, 2002 8:55 pm Subject: RE: [tadream] Digest Number 1547 > Roger Hartopp >TD obviously love Poland - will they be coming here? > An open air > concert on the Blonia would be great! Roger, I hope there will be a great gig in Poland... If so, we will meet again quite soon... cheers Jarek 'Jerry' mailto:jarek@w... Visit my websites at: http://www.tangerinedream.pl/ http://www.klausmusic.pl/ http://www.wiktorowicz.pl/ From: 'Scott' Date: Tue Oct 29, 2002 8:55 pm Subject: Re: TD in London/How would you react if you were asked to support TD? I already support them by buying their CD's! Actually, though, they'd probably have an easier time touring the US & Canada if they hooked up with another band, either as an opening act themselves, or as a double bill. My vote is for a double bill with Ozric Tentacles. Scott From: Olav Neander Date: Tue Oct 29, 2002 8:59 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] TD Live in London jarek@w... schrieb: >Well, what about the line-up? Who will be playing??? >Any ideas? > Peter Baumann would be great :-) Olav -- Electronic Dreamscapes from Norway - http://www.mp3.com/autopoiesis - ICQ# 9622825 From: 'Greg' Date: Tue Oct 29, 2002 9:16 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: TD live in London ...concerts in 2003 which will feature material from 1972-2002. >>> Hurrah! And hopefully we'll never hear of Dante's Inferno - aka Overindulgence City, Arizona - ever again...... WHOA Are you talking about where I live? LHC? Yes.. it's quite an inferno here.. and there is quite a bit of overindulgence! (well in the summer at least) Greg NP: Sasha - Airdrawndagger From: Morgan Feldon Date: Wed Oct 30, 2002 1:41 am Subject: Re: [tadream] TT 2 - review >Does all live material have to be energetic? I like it better than Mannheim >pretty much for the same reasons as Olle - it's '73-ish', nicely >experimental. >Oh, and I find Saarbr. pt 2 (instead of Mannh. pt 2) pretty similar to >Coldwater Canyon, at least the first half. In general mood, that is... > >John Vertical Honestly, I do like live TD or EM for that matter that has some energetic moments. It took Historic Edition and Are You Sequenced? to get me into Klaus Schulze. -Morgan np Saarbrucken pt 2. From: Morgan Feldon Date: Wed Oct 30, 2002 4:19 am Subject: Saarbrucken I just played part 2 of Saarbrucken 76 again (It's about the 4th time I've played it). Every time I listen to it, I like it even less. Sorry, but all the tuning and snafus with the sequence at the beginning and then the whole lack of coherence really doesn't do much for me. It never gets to a crecendo or a point where I'd sell half of what I own to be at that concert. Unlike these 1976 shows... 1976.02.09 Jansen, Brussels 1976.11.08 Nottingham, UK 1976.06.05 Manchester Free Trade Hall 1976.06.27 Philharmonic, Berlin 1976.11.22 Paris Palais du Sport 1976.10.31 Mannheim -Morgan From: Klaus Beschorner Date: Wed Oct 30, 2002 5:57 pm Subject: Saarbruecken >Every time I listen to it, I like it even less. Sorry, but all the tuning >and snafus with the sequence at the beginning and then the whole lack of >coherence really doesn't do much for me. It never gets to a crecendo or a >point where I'd sell half of what I own to be at that concert. Hi Morgan, you've just re-discovered a 'secret'... During TD's improvisational years, they (and their audience!) always took a huge risk. The band might have a good day, and it would be a fantastic evening. Or not, and there would be no need for grocery shopping ;-) Only joking, but being fed up by all the tomatoes on the stage definitely was one factor that led to the more structured concerts of the early 80s, and into the minidisk showoffs today ;-) cheers, klaus From: Marion Horrod Date: Thu Oct 31, 2002 2:43 am Subject: TD live in London It's interesting that they've chosen a standing room only venue. I guess this means that the show is going to be in the Dream Mixes vein, aimed at younger fans who will dance. (Like the SBE show, except no-one danced at that one, although I don't know how you resisted!) Anyways, SRO means I shan't be going - my legs aren't up to standing for any length of time. Pity. (I hope they get a better sound engineer than they had at SBE, b.t.w.) LnH Marion 'The glass is neither half full or half empty. It's twice the size it needs to be ...' S. Blakemore From: Chris Richards Date: Wed Oct 30, 2002 8:02 pm Subject: Klaus Schulze X I just got my latest shipment in from Wayside Music, which included a copy of Schulze's X, which they had for $12. This is a really great album! I'm so sorry I didn't pick up on Schulze's solo albums sooner, but they've always been hard to get ahold here in the US. Anyway, I'm listening to disc two, I kept thinking part of Ludwig 11. Von Bayern sounded familiar. After a few minutes, I pegged it. Years ago, I saw this low budget horror flick called Barracuda. Anyway, Schulze was credited with composing the music, but I remember someone telling me that the music wasn't composed especially for the movie, but in fact taken from one of his other albums. THAT'S where I know this music from!!! In fact, I can identify the one particular scene where the piece of music I recognized came from (ok, so maybe I've seen it more than once!). :-) ===== May you never thirst! The Scuba Diver Presently Known As Chris 'What do you get when you give a yo-yo to a flock of flamingos?'-James Earl Jones __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36914 Re: Klaus Schulze X Peter Prisekin aka Dusty Chalk dustych Thu 10/31/2002 2 KB 36920 Re: Klaus Schulze X Michael A Jean mikejeanwork Thu 10/31/2002 3 KB 36930 Re: Klaus Schulze X Craig Padilla synthwiz Thu 10/31/2002 2 KB From: 'Colin Jouxson' Date: Wed Oct 30, 2002 8:49 pm Subject: Tangerine Dream(Virgin Masters) Hello All Just thought i would let you know that HMV are doing all the TD Virgin master albums at a superb 4.99GBP, go to www.hmv.co.uk.Superb deal. Best regards Colin. From: Peter Prisekin aka Dusty Chalk Date: Thu Oct 31, 2002 5:53 am Subject: Re: [tadream] Klaus Schulze X Chris Richards wrote: > This is a really great > album! I'm so sorry I didn't pick up on Schulze's > solo albums sooner... Yeah, one of my favourites by him. > Anyway, I'm listening to disc two, I kept > thinking part of Ludwig 11. Von Bayern sounded > familiar. After a few minutes, I pegged it. Years > ago, I saw this low budget horror flick called > Barracuda... So, is it worth seeing? I mean, for someone who is into horror flicks but not complete crap? ;-) -- I remain, :-Peter aka :-Dusty :-Chalk Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36920 Re: Klaus Schulze X Michael A Jean mikejeanwork Thu 10/31/2002 3 KB From: Heiko Heerssen Date: Thu Oct 31, 2002 7:28 am Subject: London calling I sent an email to the Tadream list yesterday but it seems it bounced back, so I'll try again.. I bought a ticket for the Astoria gig in London next February, and even though the venue is supposed to be 'a complete dump' I look forward to see some of the usual suspects again :-) Heiko From: 'duncan mckee' Date: Thu Oct 31, 2002 8:34 am Subject: london 03 hi all my ticket arrived this morning for the february show, lets hope that the astoria get thing sorted next month. see you all there. i may have a little present for edgar and jerome :-) Thanks Duncan McKee tangram@t... www.tadream.co.uk www.tangerine-dream.co.uk MSN Messenger dmckee20@h... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36917 Re: london 03 Heiko Heerssen td_freak Thu 10/31/2002 2 KB 36921 Re: london 03 Gibbons, Conrad TangFanIRL Thu 10/31/2002 2 KB 36925 Re: london 03 Mr Paul Dryden paulus_d2002 Thu 10/31/2002 2 KB 36931 Re: london 03 Gary Jenkins hyperboreauk Thu 10/31/2002 2 KB From: Heiko Heerssen Date: Thu Oct 31, 2002 9:00 am Subject: Re: [tadream] london 03 > i may have a little present for edgar and jerome :-) Me too (the third 'Tangerine Tree' box) :-) Heiko From: Marko Marin Date: Thu Oct 31, 2002 11:01 am Subject: [tadream] World Without Rules Paul Haslinger's World Without Rules. I likey! ;-) It has the same overall sound, but still enough variation to keep my interest. And it's the loudest music I've heard after my old Metallica-days. All of the tracks are very good and it's hard to tell wich one is the best, but as I'm now listening Monkey Brain Sushi (great 'rap'-sequence ;-), it could be it. Of course when the next track starts, I'll think otherwise. Regards, Marko Marin ===== __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36919 Wuiven Riet Marko Marin rubyconist Thu 10/31/2002 2 KB 36922 Re: Wuiven Riet Gustavo Jobim gustavojobim2 Thu 10/31/2002 2 KB 36923 Re: Wuiven Riet Heiko Heerssen td_freak Thu 10/31/2002 3 KB 36924 Re: Wuiven Riet Mr Paul Dryden paulus_d2002 Thu 10/31/2002 2 KB 36928 Re: Wuiven Riet Craig Padilla synthwiz Thu 10/31/2002 2 KB 36932 Re: Wuiven Riet Marcel Engels mars103nl Thu 10/31/2002 3 KB 36933 Re: Wuiven Riet Olav Neander Thu 10/31/2002 2 KB 36936 Wuiven Riet Deb H-J dhj4 Thu 10/31/2002 2 KB 36940 Re: Wuiven Riet Marcel Engels mars103nl Fri 11/1/2002 2 KB From: Marko Marin Date: Thu Oct 31, 2002 11:02 am Subject: [tadream] Wuiven Riet I can understand why so many people found Schmoelling's first solo album different from what he did in Tangerine Dream, but it's also full of good music and without tight drumbeats and sequencers it sounds very different in a good way. Regards, Marko Marin ===== __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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ID Date Size 36922 Re: Wuiven Riet Gustavo Jobim gustavojobim2 Thu 10/31/2002 2 KB 36923 Re: Wuiven Riet Heiko Heerssen td_freak Thu 10/31/2002 3 KB 36924 Re: Wuiven Riet Mr Paul Dryden paulus_d2002 Thu 10/31/2002 2 KB 36928 Re: Wuiven Riet Craig Padilla synthwiz Thu 10/31/2002 2 KB 36932 Re: Wuiven Riet Marcel Engels mars103nl Thu 10/31/2002 3 KB 36933 Re: Wuiven Riet Olav Neander Thu 10/31/2002 2 KB 36936 Wuiven Riet Deb H-J dhj4 Thu 10/31/2002 2 KB 36940 Re: Wuiven Riet Marcel Engels mars103nl Fri 11/1/2002 2 KB 36942 Wuiven Riet - good looking ? braddito braddito Fri 11/1/2002 3 KB From: 'Michael A Jean' Date: Thu Oct 31, 2002 12:10 pm Subject: RE: [tadream] Klaus Schulze X FRom what I remember it was about fish attacking people...Much of the movie was underwater photography of fish swimming around...At least that is my recollection, but I saw it many many years ago... > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Prisekin aka Dusty Chalk [mailto:dusty@p...] > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 12:53 AM > To: tadream@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [tadream] Klaus Schulze X > > > Chris Richards wrote: > > This is a really great > > album! I'm so sorry I didn't pick up on Schulze's > > solo albums sooner... > > Yeah, one of my favourites by him. > > > Anyway, I'm listening to disc two, I kept > > thinking part of Ludwig 11. Von Bayern sounded > > familiar. After a few minutes, I pegged it. Years > > ago, I saw this low budget horror flick called > > Barracuda... > > So, is it worth seeing? I mean, for someone who is into > horror flicks but not complete crap? ;-) > -- > I remain, > :-Peter aka :-Dusty :-Chalk > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > From: 'Gibbons, Conrad' Date: Thu Oct 31, 2002 12:37 pm Subject: RE: [tadream] london 03 Sounds like good incentive to get that project up and rolling soon!!! ;-) ;-) ;-) Regards, Conrad (who is tempted to go to London now!) -----Original Message----- From: Heiko Heerssen [mailto:heiko.heerssen@h...] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 9:01 AM To: tadream@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [tadream] london 03 > i may have a little present for edgar and jerome :-) Me too (the third 'Tangerine Tree' box) :-) Heiko ----------------------------------------------------_- To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ----------------------------------------------------_- Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ Tangerine Tree info at http://www.tadream.net/tree Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From: Gustavo Jobim Date: Thu Oct 31, 2002 7:32 pm Subject: Re: Wuiven Riet > I can understand why so many people found > Schmoelling's first solo album different from what he > did in Tangerine Dream(...) > Marko Marin Probably my favourite TD solo album. A virtually unbeatable masterpiece. (couldn't resist! ;) by the way, first TD solo I've got. Brazilian vinyl (if I remember correctly). In a quite good shape; I've even ripped it to an audio CD. Wish I had an original CD. Gustavo Jobim gustavojobim@n... From: Heiko Heerssen Date: Thu Oct 31, 2002 12:59 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Wuiven Riet > Probably my favourite TD solo album. A virtually unbeatable masterpiece. > (couldn't resist! ;) Yes, Wuivend riet is excellent, just like all his other studio releases are. But my favourite is 'Zoo of tranquility' (the 1988 first release on Theta), closely followed by 'Songs no words' and 'White out'. His tracks are both catchy and complex at the same time, and I hope that he will release another studio work soon (with new material) Heiko From: Mr Paul Dryden Date: Thu Oct 31, 2002 6:12 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Wuiven Riet > > Probably my favourite TD solo album. A virtually unbeatable masterpiece. > > (couldn't resist! ;) > > Yes, Wuivend riet is excellent, just like all his other studio releases are. > But my favourite is 'Zoo of tranquility' (the 1988 first release on Theta) Ho yes, I even managed to get a copy of the book the music was inspired by..... Paulus.d > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/ terms/ > > > -- From: Mr Paul Dryden Date: Thu Oct 31, 2002 6:15 pm Subject: RE: [tadream] london 03 > I just caught the end of this conversation, my PC is currently being upgraded, but perhaps someone could post me the details of this concert? So, sorry to not contact you alll!!!!! Paulus.d > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/ terms/ > > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/ terms/ > > > -- From: 'fozziebear' Date: Thu Oct 31, 2002 6:07 pm Subject: Klaus Sculze X Chris Richards said I just got my latest shipment in from Wayside Music, which included a copy of Schulze's X, which they had for $12. This is a really great album! I think X is one of the greatest albums ever done David [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From: David Butler Date: Thu Oct 31, 2002 7:28 pm Subject: London calling... Considering the trip, but all I've heard about the venue makes me think twice. SRO too? Screw that. I'm old and my bones are feeble, please let me sit. Guess I'll just have to wait for the HUGE US Tour they have planned...wink, wink, nudge, nudge. But right now, I would really like to thank Nicola for his website and the 3 sound samples. First time hearing Primetime and I really like it. I can't wait to get some TD in the mail from whoever is thinking about me the most. Please contact me offlist to confirm mailing address. And I have to say that I just love this quote... 'The glass is neither half full or half empty. It's twice the size it needs to be ...' S. Blakemore NP...Primetime...thanks Nike __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ From: Craig Padilla Date: Thu Oct 31, 2002 7:30 pm Subject: Re: Wuiven Riet This solo TD release is a personal favorite of mine. The music is rather light, but not fluffy. It's very creative music. It sounds nothing like Tangerine Dream's material, but it shows how versatile and creative this artist is! Yours musically, Craig http://craigpadilla.com http://mp3.com/craigpadilla From: David Butler Date: Thu Oct 31, 2002 7:30 pm Subject: Not the Clash Oops, did I forget to sign that last letter? Oh well, you guys knew it was me....David __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ From: Craig Padilla Date: Thu Oct 31, 2002 7:32 pm Subject: Re: Klaus Schulze X Schulze's 'X' is wonderful! I especially like the last two tracks on the set. It's a terrific combination of classical music and electronic music! I think I'll head over to Wayside Music - it sounds like they have some good deals there... Yours X-ingly, Craig http://mp3.com/craigpadilla http://craigpadilla.com From: 'Gary Jenkins' Date: Thu Oct 31, 2002 7:50 pm Subject: Re: london 03 --- In tadream@y..., 'duncan mckee' wrote: > hi all > my ticket arrived this morning for the february show, lets hope that the astoria get thing sorted next month. > > see you all there. > Yes I would like to meet more people that I did not get the chance to meet at SBE,if all goes ahead maybe we could arrange a meeting point earlier on, Soho sounds good to me LOL Cheers Gary www.hyperborea.v21net.co.uk > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From: 'Marcel Engels' Date: Thu Oct 31, 2002 8:25 pm Subject: RE: [tadream] Re: Wuiven Riet Strange, I find it his most TD-like album. Very good indeed as are all of his albums. Marcel http://home.wanadoo.nl/mengels mengels@w... > -----Original Message----- > From: Craig Padilla [mailto:craigpadilla@u...] > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 8:30 PM > To: tadream@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [tadream] Re: Wuiven Riet > > > This solo TD release is a personal favorite of mine. The > music is rather light, but not fluffy. It's very creative > music. It sounds nothing like Tangerine Dream's material, > but it shows how versatile and creative this artist is! Yours > musically, Craig http://craigpadilla.com http://mp3.com/craigpadilla > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > From: Olav Neander Date: Thu Oct 31, 2002 8:37 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Wuiven Riet Hello Craig! Craig Padilla schrieb: >It sounds nothing like Tangerine Dream's material, > I don't agree with you at this point, especially 'Matjora' reminds me a lot of some TD stuff... Yours musically, Olav -- Electronic Dreamscapes from Norway - http://www.mp3.com/autopoiesis - ICQ# 9622825 From: 'Alistair Hull' Date: Thu Oct 31, 2002 10:05 pm Subject: London 03 here I come! The Astoria better get their act together otherwise I'll be left with a non-refundable plane ticket from New York (and that's going to hurt!). Looking forward to seeing 'The Usual Suspects' as Heiko calls them (you know who you are). Can't wait. See You in London (hopefully). Alistair Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36935 Re: London 03 here I come! vic rek kyivmission Thu 10/31/2002 3 KB 36943 Re: London 03 here I come! TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak manicmort Fri 11/1/2002 3 KB 36944 Re: London 03 here I come! Heiko Heerssen td_freak Fri 11/1/2002 3 KB 36979 Re: London 03 here I come! Alan Miller diamondsndust2001 Sat 11/2/2002 3 KB 36980 Re: London 03 here I come! Alan Miller diamondsndust2001 Sat 11/2/2002 3 KB From: 'vic rek' Date: Thu Oct 31, 2002 10:16 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] London 03 here I come! Whom would you consider as the 'usual' suspects? :-) Vic ----- Original Message ----- From: 'Alistair Hull' To: Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 5:05 PM Subject: [tadream] London 03 here I come! > The Astoria better get their act together otherwise I'll be left with > a non-refundable plane ticket from New York (and that's going to > hurt!). Looking forward to seeing 'The Usual Suspects' as Heiko calls > them (you know who you are). Can't wait. See You in London > (hopefully). > Alistair > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > From: Deb H-J Date: Thu Oct 31, 2002 11:44 pm Subject: Wuiven Riet << Yes, Wuivend riet is excellent, just like all his other studio releases are. But my favourite is 'Zoo of tranquility' (the 1988 first release on Theta), closely followed by 'Songs no words' and 'White out'. His tracks are both catchy and complex at the same time, and I hope that he will release another studio work soon (with new material)>> I agree with your order of favorites, but its hard to pick just one, because they are all good in their own unique way. I also wish he'd release some other new material, and wonder why his solo output has been relatively sparse compared to his TD years. Personally, speaking as someone of the female persuasion (even if I am 50 and have a son older than some of you) he is also the best looking of all the TD guys, although Edgar in his long-haired Viking era is a close second. Hasta, Deb H-J dhj4@y... ===== __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36940 Re: Wuiven Riet Marcel Engels mars103nl Fri 11/1/2002 2 KB 36942 Wuiven Riet - good looking ? braddito braddito Fri 11/1/2002 3 KB From: David Butler Date: Fri Nov 1, 2002 1:06 am Subject: Thanks to TD Man, do I feel dumb. I get back online and want to listen to TD so I wander over to Nike's site, but I can't remember the address, so I check my history and this site is there... http://nicola.cont.it/td/jukebox.asp?T=5 So I pull it up and it looks quite familiar. Anyway, you can hear any of the SIX samples by just changing the number on the end. Of course, you guys being all the techies already knew this, right? Man, do I feel dumb....David __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ From: 'Admin' Date: Thu Oct 31, 2002 4:53 am Subject: Comdex in Vegas I set up some time to attend Comdex this year. I will be in Vegas on the 18th to the 20th November. Anyone else going or in the area what to meet up? I saw a Mellotron in one of the music stores there a few years ago. I was wondering if it still was gathering dust there. Dale From: Heiko Heerssen Date: Fri Nov 1, 2002 7:15 am Subject: Re: [tadream] Wuiven Riet > Personally, speaking as someone of the female > persuasion (even if I am 50 and have a son older than > some of you) he is also the best looking of all the TD > guys, although Edgar in his long-haired Viking era is > a close second. who is/was the best looking TD musician..now that would be a nice thread! My vote: 1. Linda Spa 2. Linda Spa 3. Linda Spa :-) Heiko From: 'Marcel Engels' Date: Fri Nov 1, 2002 7:25 am Subject: Re: Wuiven Riet --- In tadream@y..., Deb H-J wrote: > > Personally, speaking as someone of the female > persuasion (even if I am 50 and have a son older than > some of you) he is also the best looking of all the TD > guys, although Edgar in his long-haired Viking era is > a close second. I probably take a big risk in saying that I thought Peter was one of the best looking TD guy. :-) After saying this people will probably think different of me hahaha. Marcel http://home.wanadoo.nl/mengels mengels@w... feeling a bit tired because my son decided that at 4:00AM he had to wake up and let us know, but it's Friday and tomorrow there's a progrock festival here! Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36942 Wuiven Riet - good looking ? braddito braddito Fri 11/1/2002 3 KB From: Chris Richards Date: Fri Nov 1, 2002 8:34 am Subject: Re: Barracuda <<> Anyway, I'm listening to disc two, I kept > thinking part of Ludwig 11. Von Bayern sounded > familiar. After a few minutes, I pegged it. Years > ago, I saw this low budget horror flick called > Barracuda... So, is it worth seeing? I mean, for someone who is into horror flicks but not complete crap? ;-) >> Probably not. The copy I saw on VHS was badly edited (there's a jump cut in the closing credits, for God's sake!), but basically the movie was about a government project involved chemicals being dumped into the water near a beach, which not only causes the fish to attack people, but also causes some of the people to act a little nutty. The main reason I watched the movie the first time I saw it (on late night TV) was because I suspected there'd be a couple scuba diving scenes (I'm a scuba buff, remember?), and that's also why I rented it on video a few years later. If you're looking for a good horror flick, this ain't it. But if you want something that's to one extent or another unintentionally funny (you gotta love the blobulent sheriff's deputy who warns a teenager planning to go scuba diving by himself that 'diving alone is might damn dangerous' in this voice that sounds like he's playing the Strother Martin role in Cool Hand Luke or something), well, this might do in a pinch. And if you just like to watch movies with scuba scenes in them, well, I found them enjoyable enough. :-) Beyond that, unless you want to see another government conspiracy movie, you might want to save your money and wait for this one to turn up on late night TV (yeah, like they ever show movies on late night TV anymore). Incidentally, the scene where side three of X was used is when the scientist goes diving at night to retrieve a sample from the sewage dump thingy from the chemical plant, about 3/4's of the way into the movie. It's the last underwater scene. And no, I can't remember the exact title without looking at the back cover, and the CD is upstairs. ===== May you never thirst! The Scuba Diver Presently Known As Chris 'What do you get when you give a yo-yo to a flock of flamingos?'-James Earl Jones __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 37289 Barracuda vic rek kyivmission Sun 11/24/2002 2 KB From: 'braddito' Date: Fri Nov 1, 2002 8:40 am Subject: Wuiven Riet - good looking ? I have always been envious of Chris Franke's cool dark slim image. Unfortunately, I'm a chrome dome and overweight due to too many years of not enough exercise and a fondness for curry's and Chinese. And Mexican, Thai, fish and chips .... Toby PS awaiting clearance from 'she who must be obeyed' for the Astoria gathering. I'd love to meet some of you good music lovers. --- In tadream@y..., 'Marcel Engels' wrote: > --- In tadream@y..., Deb H-J wrote: > > > > Personally, speaking as someone of the female > > persuasion (even if I am 50 and have a son older than > > some of you) he is also the best looking of all the TD > > guys, although Edgar in his long-haired Viking era is > > a close second. > > I probably take a big risk in saying that I thought > Peter was one of the best looking TD guy. :-) > After saying this people will probably think different > of me hahaha. > > Marcel > http://home.wanadoo.nl/mengels > mengels@w... > feeling a bit tired because my son decided that at > 4:00AM he had to wake up and let us know, but it's > Friday and tomorrow there's a progrock festival here! From: TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak Date: Fri Nov 1, 2002 9:29 am Subject: Re: [tadream] London 03 here I come! At 22:05 31.10.02, you wrote: >The Astoria better get their act together otherwise I'll be left with >a non-refundable plane ticket from New York (and that's going to >hurt!). Looking forward to seeing 'The Usual Suspects' as Heiko calls >them (you know who you are). Can't wait. See You in London >(hopefully). >Alistair > Dear Alistair, Mean Fiddler Concerts, who own the Astoria, have confirmed to me yesterday that the TD show is not in danger. Even if the worst case scenario happens, i.e. the Astoria loses its license, which nobody really believes as it is one of the most popular clubs in London, this would not happen until late March 2003, thus leaving all shows until then untouched. Best regards, Martin Kasprzak TDI- Music- Support. Tel:-49-30-23620995 Fax:-49-30-23620996 Visit our Website at: http://www.tangerinedream.org [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From: Heiko Heerssen Date: Fri Nov 1, 2002 9:57 am Subject: Re: [tadream] London 03 here I come! > Mean Fiddler Concerts, who own the Astoria, have confirmed to me yesterday > that the TD show is not in danger. Even if the worst case scenario happens, > i.e. the Astoria loses its license, which nobody really believes as it is > one of the most popular clubs in London, this would not happen until late > March 2003, thus leaving all shows until then untouched. Thanks Martin for the good news, now I can order my flight ticket. Now I only have to find a nearby hotel which has reasonable prices..an impossible task in a city like London ;-( Heiko From: 'Fred Yargui' Date: Fri Nov 1, 2002 10:01 am Subject: Re: [tadream] translation problem Hello, Dreamers, Does someone know what ' Vermond Curry ' mean ? (It's a title from TDJ Rome) Bye, Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: 'David Butler' To: Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 2:06 AM Subject: [tadream] Thanks to TD > Man, do I feel dumb. I get back online and want to > listen to TD so I wander over to Nike's site, but I > can't remember the address, so I check my history and > this site is there... > > http://nicola.cont.it/td/jukebox.asp?T=5 > > So I pull it up and it looks quite familiar. Anyway, > you can hear any of the SIX samples by just changing > the number on the end. Of course, you guys being all > the techies already knew this, right? Man, do I feel dumb....David > Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36962 Re: translation problem John Vertical omegatransfinito Fri 11/1/2002 2 KB 36965 Re: translation problem Administrator dale1kay Fri 11/1/2002 3 KB 37024 Re: translation problem Fred Yargui fredyargui Wed 11/6/2002 2 KB From: 'Fishman Daniel (RC9) Luton & Dunstable Hospital TR' Date: Fri Nov 1, 2002 10:04 am Subject: TD in London - The BIG Decision Oh Gawd!!! What to do - go and see TD miming thru 2 hours of Edgars workstation playing Cubase layouts, whilst standing in the Astoria (which, as a venue, is one step down from Shepherds Bush, which in itself was one step down from a muddy field in Galstonbury)...or taking my wife out as it's the nearest Saturday to Valentines Day, almost our 10 year wedding anniversary and we *always* go out Valentines? Actually, an easy choice, how could I have even considered it. See you in the bar chaps. Daniel Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36947 Re: TD in London - The BIG Decision Heiko Heerssen td_freak Fri 11/1/2002 3 KB 36950 Re: TD in London - The BIG Decision Brian Stewart Fri 11/1/2002 2 KB 36952 Re: TD in London - The BIG Decision Fishman Daniel (RC9) Luton & Dunstable Ho docned2001 Fri 11/1/2002 2 KB From: Heiko Heerssen Date: Fri Nov 1, 2002 10:22 am Subject: Re: [tadream] TD in London - The BIG Decision > What to do - go and see TD miming thru 2 hours of Edgars workstation playing > Cubase layouts, whilst standing in the Astoria (which, as a venue, is one > step down from Shepherds Bush, which in itself was one step down from a > muddy field in Galstonbury)...or taking my wife out as it's the nearest > Saturday to Valentines Day, almost our 10 year wedding anniversary and we > *always* go out Valentines? > Actually, an easy choice, how could I have even considered it. > See you in the bar chaps. LOL! Without a doubt the Tadream email of the week, if not month :-) From: 'Fred Yargui' Date: Fri Nov 1, 2002 10:22 am Subject: Re: [tadream] jukebox Hello, David and Dreamers, I tried to correct the files. check the 6 excerpts (among them I just love 5 of them I find GREAT ;o) with the following links http://perso.wanadoo.fr/fred_y/jukebox1.htm http://perso.wanadoo.fr/fred_y/jukebox2.htm http://perso.wanadoo.fr/fred_y/jukebox3.htm http://perso.wanadoo.fr/fred_y/jukebox4.htm http://perso.wanadoo.fr/fred_y/jukebox5.htm http://perso.wanadoo.fr/fred_y/jukebox6.htm I didn't find out from where came those links... but they work fine :o) Sorry to the TDI team in case of intruding... just tell me if I shall remove them. Best Regards and enjoy those TD-classic everyone should have in his collection... Fred > > Man, do I feel dumb. I get back online and want to > > listen to TD so I wander over to Nike's site, but I > > can't remember the address, so I check my history and > > this site is there... > > > > http://nicola.cont.it/td/jukebox.asp?T=5 > > > > So I pull it up and it looks quite familiar. Anyway, > > you can hear any of the SIX samples by just changing > > the number on the end. Of course, you guys being all > > the techies already knew this, right? Man, do I feel dumb....David > > > Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36949 Re: jukebox Michael A Jean mikejeanwork Fri 11/1/2002 4 KB 36953 Re: jukebox rtol008 rtol008 Fri 11/1/2002 4 KB From: 'Michael A Jean' Date: Fri Nov 1, 2002 11:36 am Subject: RE: [tadream] jukebox These are from the TD website...It is one of the HIDDEN features...You can find them, along with some video clips, by clicking the PLAY Button in the upper right corner of the TD screen. Then the six button 'appear' in the upper left corner. You can see the three video clips by clicking the color changing ORB, and then dragging the arrow up or down. > -----Original Message----- > From: Fred Yargui [mailto:fredericyargui@w...] > Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 5:22 AM > To: tadream@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [tadream] jukebox > > > Hello, David and Dreamers, > > I tried to correct the files. > > check the 6 excerpts (among them I just love 5 of them I find GREAT ;o) > with the following links > > http://perso.wanadoo.fr/fred_y/jukebox1.htm > http://perso.wanadoo.fr/fred_y/jukebox2.htm > http://perso.wanadoo.fr/fred_y/jukebox3.htm > http://perso.wanadoo.fr/fred_y/jukebox4.htm > http://perso.wanadoo.fr/fred_y/jukebox5.htm > http://perso.wanadoo.fr/fred_y/jukebox6.htm > > I didn't find out from where came those links... but they work fine :o) > > Sorry to the TDI team in case of intruding... just tell me if I > shall remove > them. > > Best Regards and enjoy those TD-classic everyone should have in his > collection... > > Fred > > > > > > Man, do I feel dumb. I get back online and want to > > > listen to TD so I wander over to Nike's site, but I > > > can't remember the address, so I check my history and > > > this site is there... > > > > > > http://nicola.cont.it/td/jukebox.asp?T=5 > > > > > > So I pull it up and it looks quite familiar. Anyway, > > > you can hear any of the SIX samples by just changing > > > the number on the end. Of course, you guys being all > > > the techies already knew this, right? Man, do I feel dumb....David > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36953 Re: jukebox rtol008 rtol008 Fri 11/1/2002 4 KB From: 'Brian Stewart' Date: Fri Nov 1, 2002 11:47 am Subject: Re: [tadream] TD in London - The BIG Decision Hi Yes! what a decision. I've had to promise to take my other half shopping for thr rest of the weekend. I'll be the one smuggling in water. Best Brian ------------------ Oh Gawd!!! What to do - go and see TD miming thru 2 hours of Edgars workstation playing Cubase layouts, whilst standing in the Astoria (which, as a venue, is one step down from Shepherds Bush, which in itself was one step down from a muddy field in Galstonbury)...or taking my wife out as it's the nearest Saturday to Valentines Day, almost our 10 year wedding anniversary and we *always* go out Valentines? Actually, an easy choice, how could I have even considered it. See you in the bar chaps. Daniel _________________________________________________________________ Get a speedy connection with MSN Broadband.  Join now! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From: 'Fred Yargui' Date: Fri Nov 1, 2002 11:51 am Subject: Re: [tadream] jukebox Thanx, Michael, I saw the videos but no audio... Now, I realize that the ON button was already pressed and that the six buttons were... invisible to my eyes :-( Cheers ! Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: 'Michael A Jean' To: Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 12:36 PM Subject: RE: [tadream] jukebox > These are from the TD website...It is one of the HIDDEN features...You can > find them, along with some video clips, by clicking the PLAY Button in the > upper right corner of the TD screen. Then the six button 'appear' in the > upper left corner. You can see the three video clips by clicking the color > changing ORB, and then dragging the arrow up or down. > > > > (snip)> > From: 'Fishman Daniel (RC9) Luton & Dunstable Hospital TR' Date: Fri Nov 1, 2002 12:09 pm Subject: Re: TD in London - The BIG Decision >Heiko Heerssen said: >LOL! Without a doubt the Tadream email of the week, if not month :-) Glad to be of service, even if it was, unfortunately, a joke. This will be the first TD concert in London that I have missed since I got into TD many moons back. Please set minidiscs to standby..... Daniel From: 'rtol008' Date: Fri Nov 1, 2002 12:22 pm Subject: Re: jukebox Nice effect if you click these links one by one, finally all six pieces playing at same time :) -timo- --- In tadream@y..., 'Michael A Jean' wrote: > These are from the TD website...It is one of the HIDDEN features...You can > find them, along with some video clips, by clicking the PLAY Button in the > upper right corner of the TD screen. Then the six button 'appear' in the > upper left corner. You can see the three video clips by clicking the color > changing ORB, and then dragging the arrow up or down. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Fred Yargui [mailto:fredericyargui@w...] > > Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 5:22 AM > > To: tadream@y... > > Subject: Re: [tadream] jukebox > > > > > > Hello, David and Dreamers, > > > > I tried to correct the files. > > > > check the 6 excerpts (among them I just love 5 of them I find GREAT ;o) > > with the following links > > > > http://perso.wanadoo.fr/fred_y/jukebox1.htm > > http://perso.wanadoo.fr/fred_y/jukebox2.htm > > http://perso.wanadoo.fr/fred_y/jukebox3.htm > > http://perso.wanadoo.fr/fred_y/jukebox4.htm > > http://perso.wanadoo.fr/fred_y/jukebox5.htm > > http://perso.wanadoo.fr/fred_y/jukebox6.htm > > > > I didn't find out from where came those links... but they work fine :o) > > > > Sorry to the TDI team in case of intruding... just tell me if I > > shall remove > > them. > > > > Best Regards and enjoy those TD-classic everyone should have in his > > collection... > > > > Fred > > > > > > > > > > Man, do I feel dumb. I get back online and want to > > > > listen to TD so I wander over to Nike's site, but I > > > > can't remember the address, so I check my history and > > > > this site is there... > > > > > > > > http://nicola.cont.it/td/jukebox.asp?T=5 > > > > > > > > So I pull it up and it looks quite familiar. Anyway, > > > > you can hear any of the SIX samples by just changing > > > > the number on the end. Of course, you guys being all > > > > the techies already knew this, right? Man, do I feel dumb....David > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@y... > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > > > Tangerine Tree info at > > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > From: 'Fred Yargui' Date: Fri Nov 1, 2002 12:30 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: jukebox Haha, yes I experimentated it ;o) and I really think it's a bug ;o))) thanks to macromedia ... or should each opened jubebox window be closed before opening another one (in tadream web) ? Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: 'rtol008' To: Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 1:22 PM Subject: [tadream] Re: jukebox > Nice effect if you click these links one by one, finally all six > pieces playing at same time :) > > -timo- (snip) From: 'Bill Fox' Date: Thu Oct 31, 2002 2:34 pm Subject: EMUSIC Playlist #293 [ Best viewed using a fixed spacing font. ] EMUSIC is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. Show #293 October 31, 2002. RECAP: On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on ambient guitarist Jeff Pearce, who sculpts soundscapes with a guitar. The Featured CD at midnight was 'The Hidden Rift' on the Ancient Sun Music label. The Vinyl Starter was from the LP 'Encore' by Tangerine Dream the Virgin label. I also played the music of Richard Pinhas who will be in concert at the next Gathering on November 2. PLAYLIST: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ============================== 11:04 pm Tangerine Dream Cherokee Lane Encore (Virgin) Jeff Pearce Live telephone interview Richard Pinhas P'tite SAB Event and Repetition (Cuneiform) Metlay! Those Who Wait for Live in Denver (Atomic City) Morning Mike Griffin and Plastic and Flesh Imprint (Hypnos) Dave Fulton 12:00 am Jeff Pearce The Hidden Sky The Hidden Rift (Ancient Sun) Jeff Pearce Shadow of Surrender The Hidden Rift (Ancient Sun) Jeff Pearce On Silent Paths The Hidden Rift (Ancient Sun) Jeff Pearce Last Light The Hidden Rift (Ancient Sun) Jeff Pearce Rain Clouds The Hidden Rift (Ancient Sun) Jeff Pearce Aftermath The Hidden Rift (Ancient Sun) Jeff Pearce Parting Words The Hidden Rift (Ancient Sun) Jeff Pearce The Hidden Rift The Hidden Rift (Ancient Sun) 1:00 am * = exerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) NEXT SHOW: On the next EMUSIC, I'll begin a month-long focus on Two Dutch Bands, Free System Projekt and Wave World. The Featured CD at Midnight will be disc one from 'Atmospheric Conditions' by FSP on the Quantum label. The vinyl show starter will be from the LP 'Encore' by Tangerine Dream on the Virgin label. I will play the music of Radio Massacre International who will be performing at the November 16th Gathering. Bill =============================================================================== Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic All times are GMT-5:00 Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emusic-wdiy and click on [Join This Group!] Host of the AM/FM Show on WMUH Allentown 91.7 FM every other Saturday at 6 am. Host of Afterglow on WMUH every Thursday morning from 8:00 to 9:30. http://soundscapes.us/~bill/amfm http://soundscapes.us/~bill/afterglow Listen on-line to WMUH at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click REAL AUDIO Personal site: http://soundscapes.us/~bill All times are GMT-5:00 SOUNDSCAPES Concert Series: http://soundscapes.us From: 'Owens, James' Date: Fri Nov 1, 2002 2:48 pm Subject: OT: International Space Station Hi guys, I've been in deep lurk mode for a while, and going back soon, but I had to say: YEEEHAAAA !!!! Two of the 3 segments of Space Station Truss that I worked on for 5 years have finally been connected to the space station!! There's a nice pic here: http://www.spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/shuttle/sts-112/lores/s112e05 805.jpg the silver horizontal 'bar' in this pic is actually the two segments I helped design. The last segment (P1) goes up Nov. 10. Now back to TD! (sorry, it's just so exciting to finally see all this work complete!!!) 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HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ From: 'Owens, James' Date: Fri Nov 1, 2002 2:59 pm Subject: RE: [tadream] Wuiven Riet Wuivend is definitely my favorite Schmoelling. Zoo (theta) is a close second. My favorite track on Wuivend is the absolutely beautiful Matjora, but almost equal is 'Zeit (for Stephen)' because of how it builds from chaotic clock ticks, until everything finally syncs up. Then it's that powerful lead playing out the climax. Eventually the ticking gets out of sync once again, and everything returns to chaos. WOW!!! As for JS not putting out a lot of albums: The main reason he quit TD was the frenetic schedule they kept. Maybe he prefers his music in a crock-pot instead of a pressure-cooker! James -----Original Message----- From: Deb H-J [mailto:dhj4@y...] I agree with your order of favorites, but its hard to pick just one, because they are all good in their own unique way. I also wish he'd release some other new material, and wonder why his solo output has been relatively sparse compared to his TD years. From: 'Owens, James' Date: Fri Nov 1, 2002 3:11 pm Subject: RE: [tadream] OT: International Space Station Thanks. Do you really want a 90 foot-long chunk of aluminum attached to your car? :-) You can see some better detail in other shots from STS-112 in the shuttle section of the gallery at: www.spaceflight.nasa.gov -----Original Message----- From: jerome [mailto:ssaalyersjj@y...] congrats, james... nice bar... can we get one as an accessory for our cars? From: 'Colin Jouxson' Date: Fri Nov 1, 2002 4:30 pm Subject: Astoria Concert meeting Hello All I know this might sound a bit premature,but could anyone who knows the Astorias surrounding area think of a good watering hole where we can meet prior to the concert,as long as the wonderful Grolsch is on sale,i would be a very happy man,i look forward to meeting many more fans than Shepherds Bush. Best regards Colin South Wales UK NB/Edgar Froese-Maroubra Bay=Bliss. From: 'PERGAMON' Date: Fri Nov 1, 2002 4:34 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: International Space Station Congrats....... Who am I going to f... to get a ride up there????????????.......................=O) Regards Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: 'Owens, James' To: Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 3:48 PM Subject: [tadream] OT: International Space Station > Hi guys, > > I've been in deep lurk mode for a while, and going back soon, but I had to > say: > > YEEEHAAAA !!!! > > Two of the 3 segments of Space Station Truss that I worked on for 5 years > have finally been connected to the space station!! > > There's a nice pic here: > http://www.spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/shuttle/sts-112/lores/s112e05 > 805.jpg > > the silver horizontal 'bar' in this pic is actually the two segments I > helped design. > > The last segment (P1) goes up Nov. 10. > > Now back to TD! > > (sorry, it's just so exciting to finally see all this work complete!!!) > > James > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > From: 'John Vertical' Date: Fri Nov 1, 2002 5:35 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] translation problem >Does someone know what ' Vermond Curry ' mean ? Curry is an oriental spice mix (curcuma, cinnamon, peppers, etc.) to begin with. I'm not sure about 'Vermond' - it could be a misspelling of 'Vermont' (a USA state) but it could also be a name of some curry dish. John Vertical _________________________________________________________________ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From: 'John Vertical' Date: Fri Nov 1, 2002 6:08 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] Random personnel thoughts >From: Heiko Heerssen >Reply-To: tadream@yahoogroups.com >To: tadream@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [tadream] Wuiven Riet >Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 08:15:17 +0100 > > > Personally, speaking as someone of the female > > persuasion (even if I am 50 and have a son older than > > some of you) he is also the best looking of all the TD > > guys, although Edgar in his long-haired Viking era is > > a close second. > >who is/was the best looking TD musician..now that would be a nice thread! >My vote: >1. Linda Spa >2. Linda Spa >3. Linda Spa > :-) > >Heiko I don't think Iris is that bad-looking either. ;) But, as it's mentioned in the official TD forums, Edgar looks reaaaally weird without his moustache... Point 3: I really think Chris looks like the clichéish common image of Christ in the Ricochet cover. I wonder whether it was intentional or is it just me? #4: Who are the people in the TT vol. 15 back cover? Edgar and Jerome, OK, and either of the two blokes on the sides must be Gerald - but that's the end of men personnel at that show, isn't it? Could the rightmost guy be actually a gal - if yes, which one of them? Or am I mistaken about Jacqueline being a women's name? (And what did she play at the show, anyway?) #5: Has anyone else noticed the curious thing that no matter how old Edgar gets, all new TD personnel are relatively young? Peter, Johannes, Chris, Jerome, Zlacko, Iris, etc...? Is this really just a coincidence? Has anyone joining TD even temporarily, been over 30? 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ID Date Size 36964 Re: Random personnel thoughts Colin Jouxson convention24 Fri 11/1/2002 4 KB 36995 Re: Random personnel thoughts TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak manicmort Mon 11/4/2002 2 KB 37014 Re: Random personnel thoughts esculap andrzejos2000 Wed 11/6/2002 2 KB From: 'Colin Jouxson' Date: Fri Nov 1, 2002 7:21 pm Subject: Re: Random personnel thoughts --- In tadream@y..., 'John Vertical' wrote: > > > > > >From: Heiko Heerssen > >Reply-To: tadream@y... > >To: tadream@y... > >Subject: Re: [tadream] Wuiven Riet > >Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 08:15:17 +0100 > > > > > Personally, speaking as someone of the female > > > persuasion (even if I am 50 and have a son older than > > > some of you) he is also the best looking of all the TD > > > guys, although Edgar in his long-haired Viking era is > > > a close second. > > > >who is/was the best looking TD musician..now that would be a nice thread! > >My vote: > >1. Linda Spa > >2. Linda Spa > >3. Linda Spa > > :-) > > > >Heiko > > > I don't think Iris is that bad-looking either. ;) > > But, as it's mentioned in the official TD forums, Edgar looks reaaaally > weird without his moustache... > > Point 3: I really think Chris looks like the clichéish common image of > Christ in the Ricochet cover. I wonder whether it was intentional or is it > just me? > > #4: Who are the people in the TT vol. 15 back cover? Edgar and Jerome, OK, > and either of the two blokes on the sides must be Gerald - but that's the > end of men personnel at that show, isn't it? Could the rightmost guy be > actually a gal - if yes, which one of them? > Or am I mistaken about Jacqueline being a women's name? (And what did she > play at the show, anyway?) > > #5: Has anyone else noticed the curious thing that no matter how old Edgar > gets, all new TD personnel are relatively young? Peter, Johannes, Chris, > Jerome, Zlacko, Iris, etc...? Is this really just a coincidence? Has anyone > joining TD even temporarily, been over 30? > > John Vertical > As i have often stated,my wife thinks EF is rather a Stud,she loves that Classic(Ages)cover photo,and i have now hidden all EF photos in the Attic for fear of her eloping with the Maestro,i rest my case. As far as the ladies are concerned,Ms Spa was Model material,a Stunner. > _________________________________________________________________ > Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free!  Try MSN. > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp From: 'Administrator' Date: Fri Nov 1, 2002 7:23 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] translation problem tasty I am sure dale ----- Original Message ----- From: 'John Vertical' To: Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [tadream] translation problem > >Does someone know what ' Vermond Curry ' mean ? > > > Curry is an oriental spice mix (curcuma, cinnamon, peppers, etc.) to begin > with. I'm not sure about 'Vermond' - it could be a misspelling of 'Vermont' > (a USA state) but it could also be a name of some curry dish. > > John Vertical > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > From: 'Administrator' Date: Fri Nov 1, 2002 5:13 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: International Space Station > Do you really want a 90 foot-long chunk of aluminum attached to your car? Sure why not? Doesn't everyone have one of these on their SUV's? Great Job! James. When I look up and see the dot shine in the late evenings I will think of you. Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: 'Owens, James' To: Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 7:11 AM Subject: RE: [tadream] OT: International Space Station > Thanks. > > Do you really want a 90 foot-long chunk of aluminum attached to your car? > :-) > > You can see some better detail in other shots from STS-112 in the shuttle > section of the gallery at: > www.spaceflight.nasa.gov > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: jerome [mailto:ssaalyersjj@y...] > > congrats, james... > > nice bar... > > can we get one as an accessory for our cars? > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36971 Re: OT: International Space Station Joe Shoults bigstupidgeek Fri 11/1/2002 2 KB From: 'Michael Jean' Date: Fri Nov 1, 2002 8:23 pm Subject: Interesting News from TDI TD have re-recorded three of their modern classics from the late Eighties: 'Optical Race', 'Lily on the Beach' and 'Melrose'. As a website-special, we are bringing you these three albums in one limited set, aptly titled 'The Melrose Years'. More infos very soon!! Regards, Michael A. Jean The Brookings Institution 1775 Massachusetts Avenue, N.W. Washington, DC 20036-2188 TEL: (202)-797-6214 FAX: (202)-797-2479 EMAIL: mjean@b... http://www.brookings.edu [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36973 Re: Interesting News from TDI Sean Montgomery sean_w_montgomery Fri 11/1/2002 2 KB 36974 Re: Interesting News from TDI Greg expressionistix Fri 11/1/2002 4 KB 36978 Re: Interesting News from TDI orangefunk_2000 orangefunk_2000 Sat 11/2/2002 2 KB 36975 Re: Interesting News from TDI Administrator dale1kay Fri 11/1/2002 5 KB 36983 Re: Interesting News from TDI John Vertical omegatransfinito Sat 11/2/2002 3 KB 36986 Re: Interesting News from TDI Admin dale1kay Sat 11/2/2002 4 KB 37002 Re: Interesting News from TDI tdcrjeff tdcrjeff Mon 11/4/2002 2 KB 37004 Re: Interesting News from TDI Administrator dale1kay Tue 11/5/2002 3 KB 37016 Re: Interesting News from TDI esculap andrzejos2000 Wed 11/6/2002 2 KB From: 'fozziebear' Date: Fri Nov 1, 2002 8:24 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: International Space Station Administrator added to the thread 'Do you really want a 90 foot-long chunk of aluminum attached to your car? Sure why not? Doesn't everyone have one of these on their SUV's?' And would it make it go any faster or be any more planet friendly? This week I had the misfortune to use a car to go to work when I normally go by bike and train. (we decided to ditch the car 15 years ago) And did the car get me to work and back any faster? Absolutely not. On average 50% longer. 1 hour 30 versus under 1 hour. The only redeeming feature was I could play evolution of the Dark side of the Moog which I can't do when cycling. I know not all of you can cope without cars but some people really have got more car(s) than sense. We really shouldn't be glorifying cars David np Autobahn From: 'Administrator' Date: Fri Nov 1, 2002 8:42 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: International Space Station was a joke...I was commenting on. I hate SUV's with a passion. however, I need one as I drive 50 miles to work each day, 50 there and 50 back. You are a good guy using that bike. I would join you if my work wasn't so far. In fact I would be more healthy for it as well as have more money in my pocket to spend on synths. Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: 'fozziebear' To: Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: International Space Station > Administrator added to the thread 'Do you really want a 90 foot-long chunk > of aluminum attached to your car? Sure why not? Doesn't everyone have one > of these on their SUV's?' > > And would it make it go any faster or be any more planet friendly? > > This week I had the misfortune to use a car to go to work when I normally go > by bike and train. (we decided to ditch the car 15 years ago) And did > the car get me to work and back any faster? Absolutely not. On average > 50% longer. 1 hour 30 versus under 1 hour. > > The only redeeming feature was I could play evolution of the Dark side of > the Moog which I can't do when cycling. > > I know not all of you can cope without cars but some people really have got > more car(s) than sense. We really shouldn't be glorifying cars > > David > np Autobahn > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > From: 'Administrator' Date: Fri Nov 1, 2002 8:59 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: International Space Station opps.. After reading that it might seem I drive a SUV, I don't. Nor do I own one. Should have said I drive a car... dale ----- Original Message ----- From: 'Administrator' To: Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: International Space Station > was a joke...I was commenting on. I hate SUV's with a passion. > > however, I need one as I drive 50 miles to work each day, 50 there and 50 > back. > > You are a good guy using that bike. I would join you if my work wasn't so > far. In fact I would be more healthy for it as well as have more money in my > pocket to spend on synths. > > Dale > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: 'fozziebear' > To: > Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 12:24 PM > Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: International Space Station > > > > Administrator added to the thread 'Do you really want a 90 foot-long chunk > > of aluminum attached to your car? Sure why not? Doesn't everyone have > one > > of these on their SUV's?' > > > > And would it make it go any faster or be any more planet friendly? > > > > This week I had the misfortune to use a car to go to work when I normally > go > > by bike and train. (we decided to ditch the car 15 years ago) And did > > the car get me to work and back any faster? Absolutely not. On > average > > 50% longer. 1 hour 30 versus under 1 hour. > > > > The only redeeming feature was I could play evolution of the Dark side of > > the Moog which I can't do when cycling. > > > > I know not all of you can cope without cars but some people really have > got > > more car(s) than sense. We really shouldn't be glorifying cars > > > > David > > np Autobahn > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > > > Tangerine Tree info at > > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > From: 'Joe Shoults' Date: Fri Nov 1, 2002 9:49 pm Subject: RE: [tadream] OT: International Space Station NASA will send you e-mails that tell you exactly when and where in the sky to look for the ISS. It is way cool. http://liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov/RealTime/JPass/PassGenerator/ Even way cooler is seeing all satellites orbiting the Earth in real time: http://liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov/realtime/jtrack/3d/JTrack3D.html > -----Original Message----- > Great Job! James. When I look up and see the dot shine in the > late evenings > I will think of you. > Dale > ----- Original Message ----- > From: 'Owens, James' > > > You can see some better detail in other shots from STS-112 in > the shuttle > > section of the gallery at: > > www.spaceflight.nasa.gov From: 'Administrator' Date: Fri Nov 1, 2002 10:01 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: International Space Station yea jtrack is cool. I use it to see what might be in view weather permitting before I do any time lapse sky photos. Helps to explain away those strange lights in the sky. Even more cool is to know someone who has had a hand in some of the overhead objects. ;-) dale ----- Original Message ----- From: 'Joe Shoults' To: Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 1:49 PM Subject: RE: [tadream] OT: International Space Station > NASA will send you e-mails that tell you exactly when and where in the sky > to look for the ISS. It is way cool. > http://liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov/RealTime/JPass/PassGenerator/ > > Even way cooler is seeing all satellites orbiting the Earth in real time: > http://liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov/realtime/jtrack/3d/JTrack3D.html > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Great Job! James. When I look up and see the dot shine in the > > late evenings > > I will think of you. > > Dale > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: 'Owens, James' > > > > > You can see some better detail in other shots from STS-112 in > > the shuttle > > > section of the gallery at: > > > www.spaceflight.nasa.gov > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > From: 'Sean Montgomery' Date: Fri Nov 1, 2002 10:32 pm Subject: Re: Interesting News from TDI (Yes, I'm still on the list...lying very low) I was just about to post a message about this, but Michael beat me to it. This is just great news, isn't it? Another Christmas, another opportunity to fleece the fans. Which of you will be the first to shell out your money for new copies of three of TDs weakest albums...but now 're-recorded!' Or at least run through some kind of special magic TD sound filter, to bring it up to modern standards. Goodness knows the all-digital recordings of the early 90s are unacceptable to today's ears. Or perhaps we'll have some more delightfully original samples added on top. Or maybe they'll slap on some crowd noise, and call them live albums? Am I being too pessimistic, perhaps? Well, I can only use TDI's past actions as a guide. Will Edgar come clean, and offer a non-BS explanation for this set? Don't count on it. From: 'Greg' Date: Fri Nov 1, 2002 11:22 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Interesting News from TDI I am probably the most pessimistic and think TD will tangentize all of their past material and offer it for rerelease and it will be increasingly more difficult to locate original albums. It starts with the desire to alter concert recordings and will spread into reissues of their studio efforts. To me, it's like taking one of my paintings in a museum and pulling it down and starting to paint on it. My intentions are different now and I might look at that work as being poor.. but in all honesty, why take an old idea and make it new when I can realize new ideas that fit my artistic intentions of today? Greg H NP: Koop - Waltz For Koop ----- Original Message ----- From: 'Sean Montgomery' To: Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 3:32 PM Subject: [tadream] Re: Interesting News from TDI > (Yes, I'm still on the list...lying very low) > > I was just about to post a message about this, but Michael beat me to it. > > This is just great news, isn't it? Another Christmas, another > opportunity to fleece the fans. Which of you will be the first to > shell out your money for new copies of three of TDs weakest > albums...but now 're-recorded!' Or at least run through some kind of > special magic TD sound filter, to bring it up to modern standards. > Goodness knows the all-digital recordings of the early 90s are > unacceptable to today's ears. Or perhaps we'll have some more > delightfully original samples added on top. Or maybe they'll slap on > some crowd noise, and call them live albums? > > Am I being too pessimistic, perhaps? Well, I can only use TDI's past > actions as a guide. Will Edgar come clean, and offer a non-BS > explanation for this set? Don't count on it. > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36978 Re: Interesting News from TDI orangefunk_2000 orangefunk_2000 Sat 11/2/2002 2 KB From: 'Administrator' Date: Fri Nov 1, 2002 11:36 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Interesting News from TDI I wonder how many artiest would pull down that painting and redo if they where still alive. They might not like that little bird in that spot and wipe it out with something else. Good thing most are dead so they can't do this huh? While originals are what they are, adding or taking away by the artiest does create something new. At least that means something new is being done. I may not like that something new but it's not my work. I will choose to buy base on my needs and not because. dale ----- Original Message ----- From: 'Greg' To: Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Interesting News from TDI > I am probably the most pessimistic and think TD will tangentize all of > their past material and offer it for rerelease and it will be increasingly > more difficult to locate original albums. It starts with the desire to alter > concert recordings and will spread into reissues of their studio efforts. > To me, it's like taking one of my paintings in a museum and pulling it > down and starting to paint on it. My intentions are different now and I > might look at that work as being poor.. but in all honesty, why take an > old idea and make it new when I can realize new ideas that fit my artistic > intentions of today? > > Greg H > > NP: Koop - Waltz For Koop > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: 'Sean Montgomery' > To: > Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 3:32 PM > Subject: [tadream] Re: Interesting News from TDI > > > > (Yes, I'm still on the list...lying very low) > > > > I was just about to post a message about this, but Michael beat me to it. > > > > This is just great news, isn't it? Another Christmas, another > > opportunity to fleece the fans. Which of you will be the first to > > shell out your money for new copies of three of TDs weakest > > albums...but now 're-recorded!' Or at least run through some kind of > > special magic TD sound filter, to bring it up to modern standards. > > Goodness knows the all-digital recordings of the early 90s are > > unacceptable to today's ears. Or perhaps we'll have some more > > delightfully original samples added on top. Or maybe they'll slap on > > some crowd noise, and call them live albums? > > > > Am I being too pessimistic, perhaps? Well, I can only use TDI's past > > actions as a guide. Will Edgar come clean, and offer a non-BS > > explanation for this set? Don't count on it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > > > Tangerine Tree info at > > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > From: 'Jim Moore' Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 1:48 am Subject: RE: [tadream] Re: Wuiven Riet Actually, some of the material in this album appeared previously in one of the Streethawk episodes... -----Original Message----- From: Craig Padilla [mailto:craigpadilla@u...] >This solo TD release is a personal favorite of mine. The music is rather light, but not fluffy. It's very creative music. It sounds nothing like Tangerine Dream's material, but it shows how versatile and creative this artist is! Yours musically, Craig http://craigpadilla.com http://mp3.com/craigpadilla From: 'Adele Outland' Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 1:50 am Subject: Re: [tadream] World Without Rules I agree. This one is a masterpiece. Future Primitive was a baby compared to this one: literally, it was a precursor for what was to become a polished presentation. Have you noticed how the music is circular? ending where it began so that you have a desire to start all over again? It's good shouting out loud music too. YEAH! It's a pity that the latest creation, 'Score' merely becomes a hackneyed repeat of the same style. Haslinger has the best ear I've heard for innovation in rhythm since early TD, but he needs to find a new direction again. 8-Dell All IMO of course. NP: TT2 Croyden; I am really enjoying this As time slips into memory, memory fades into dreams. >From: Marko Marin >Reply-To: tadream@yahoogroups.com >To: tadream@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [tadream] World Without Rules >Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 03:01:51 -0800 (PST) > >Paul Haslinger's World Without Rules. > >I likey! ;-) > >It has the same overall sound, but still enough >variation to keep my interest. And it's the loudest >music I've heard after my old Metallica-days. All of >the tracks are very good and it's hard to tell wich >one is the best, but as I'm now listening Monkey Brain >Sushi (great 'rap'-sequence ;-), it could be it. Of >course when the next track starts, I'll think >otherwise. > >Regards, >Marko Marin > _________________________________________________________________ Get a speedy connection with MSN Broadband.  Join now! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From: 'orangefunk_2000' Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 8:33 am Subject: Re: Interesting News from TDI --- In tadream@y..., 'Greg' wrote: > > NP: Koop - Waltz For Koop > Wow a TD fan that listens to other stuff like jazz.. great CD! peace orangefunk From: 'Alan Miller' Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 8:53 am Subject: Re: [tadream] London 03 here I come! Hi Heiko, if you get stuck for a place you are welcomed to stay at our home. See you in February buddy. Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: 'Heiko Heerssen' To: Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [tadream] London 03 here I come! > > Mean Fiddler Concerts, who own the Astoria, have confirmed to me yesterday > > that the TD show is not in danger. Even if the worst case scenario happens, > > i.e. the Astoria loses its license, which nobody really believes as it is > > one of the most popular clubs in London, this would not happen until late > > March 2003, thus leaving all shows until then untouched. > > Thanks Martin for the good news, now I can order my flight ticket. Now I only > have to find a nearby hotel which has reasonable prices..an impossible task in > a city like London ;-( > > Heiko > > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > From: 'Alan Miller' Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 9:03 am Subject: Re: [tadream] London 03 here I come! Sorry - meant to be off line......this is not an open invite. ----- Original Message ----- From: 'Alan Miller' To: Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [tadream] London 03 here I come! > Hi Heiko, if you get stuck for a place you are welcomed to stay at our home. > > See you in February buddy. > > Alan > From: 'Alan Miller' Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 9:19 am Subject: Lineup for 'Decades Tour' Has anyone got a good idea or suggestion what the the line-up will be for the Tour? Who will be on percussion?(Iris has my vote) Who will be on guitar? ( we know who is won't be - who ever it is I hope they leave the wahwah peddle at home, maybe Martin will step up) Vocals ????(could be if Cyclone, Tyger or Inferno numbers are played) Alan NP Ozric Tentacles - Curious Corn Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36984 Re: Lineup for 'Decades Tour' Synthhtnys@a... Sat 11/2/2002 2 KB 36990 Re: Lineup for 'Decades Tour' Colin Jouxson convention24 Sun 11/3/2002 2 KB 36991 Re: Lineup for 'Decades Tour' Mr Paul Dryden paulus_d2002 Sun 11/3/2002 2 KB From: 'John Vertical' Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 9:46 am Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: International Space Station >And would it make it go any faster or be any more planet friendly? > >This week I had the misfortune to use a car to go to work when I normally >go >by bike and train. (we decided to ditch the car 15 years ago) And did >the car get me to work and back any faster? Absolutely not. On average >50% longer. 1 hour 30 versus under 1 hour. > >The only redeeming feature was I could play evolution of the Dark side of >the Moog which I can't do when cycling. > >I know not all of you can cope without cars but some people really have got >more car(s) than sense. We really shouldn't be glorifying cars > >David >np Autobahn Amen. (and there're biker-compatible CD players, too...) John Vertical _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From: 'John Vertical' Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 9:54 am Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Interesting News from TDI >I wonder how many artiest would pull down that painting and redo if they >where still alive. They might not like that little bird in that spot and >wipe it out with something else. Good thing most are dead so they can't do >this huh? At least Claude Monét did this - not to his oldest paintings though, but when going blind he was 'improving' his previous paintings so much that his family had to take them away from him, saying 'you're ruining them!' > > I am probably the most pessimistic and think TD will tangentize all of > > their past material and offer it for rerelease and it will be >increasingly > > more difficult to locate original albums. It starts with the desire to >alter > > concert recordings and will spread into reissues of their studio >efforts. Well, I guess I'm supposed to be happy that I already have Lily on the Beach and Optical Race, and I know a place where I saw Melrose for sale, too... But could the classic TD (everything up to Livemiles) really become 'difficult to locate' with Virgin and Castle churning out reissues on their own? I thought that they were pretty much alike to the originals. I only see the post-Franke releases in even possible danger... John Vertical _________________________________________________________________ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From: Synthhtnys@a... Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 1:33 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] Lineup for 'Decades Tour' In a message dated 11/2/2002 1:17:50 AM Pacific Standard Time, alan-miller@e... writes: > Who will be on percussion? - Nobody I hope! > Who will be on guitar? - Nobody I hope! > Vocals ???? - Nobody I hope! *How abooouuuutttt oh I don't know..... SYNTHESIZERS!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOT'S AND LOT'S OF SYNTHESIZERS!!!!!!! Poly [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From: Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 2:00 pm Subject: RE: London 03 / I`am coming !!!! Hello all, yesterday I ordered my tickets for the Tangerine Show in London 2003. I hope I see many TD Fan`s at this day. See you soon. Regards heiko neumann - Mr. Optical www.opticaldream.de www.tribute-to-ashra.de FREE ASHRA NEWSLETTER subcribe here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ashranewsletter --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ----------------------------- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36987 Re: London 03 / I`am coming !!!! Admin dale1kay Sat 11/2/2002 3 KB 36992 The Ones LADY GREENGRASS single found :-))))) and more... (rainer) Rainer Rutka rainerrutka Sun 11/3/2002 3 KB From: 'Admin' Date: Fri Nov 1, 2002 4:49 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Interesting News from TDI John You caught that! I was trying to be slick and see if there was any out there who might have a bit of the back ground in the fine arts. I am very surprised. Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: 'John Vertical' To: Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 1:54 AM Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Interesting News from TDI > >I wonder how many artiest would pull down that painting and redo if they > >where still alive. They might not like that little bird in that spot and > >wipe it out with something else. Good thing most are dead so they can't do > >this huh? > > > At least Claude Monét did this - not to his oldest paintings though, but > when going blind he was 'improving' his previous paintings so much that his > family had to take them away from him, saying 'you're ruining them!' > > > > > I am probably the most pessimistic and think TD will tangentize all of > > > their past material and offer it for rerelease and it will be > >increasingly > > > more difficult to locate original albums. It starts with the desire to > >alter > > > concert recordings and will spread into reissues of their studio > >efforts. > > > Well, I guess I'm supposed to be happy that I already have Lily on the Beach > and Optical Race, and I know a place where I saw Melrose for sale, too... > > But could the classic TD (everything up to Livemiles) really become > 'difficult to locate' with Virgin and Castle churning out reissues on their > own? I thought that they were pretty much alike to the originals. I only see > the post-Franke releases in even possible danger... > > John Vertical > > _________________________________________________________________ > Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 37002 Re: Interesting News from TDI tdcrjeff tdcrjeff Mon 11/4/2002 2 KB From: 'Admin' Date: Fri Nov 1, 2002 4:51 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] RE: London 03 / I`am coming !!!! Wish you well in your journey. I also envy you as there is no way for me to take off to go. Give a good report when you come back! Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 6:00 AM Subject: [tadream] RE: London 03 / I`am coming !!!! > Hello all, > > yesterday I ordered my tickets for the Tangerine Show in London 2003. > > I hope I see many TD Fan`s at this day. > > See you soon. > > Regards > heiko neumann - Mr. Optical > www.opticaldream.de > www.tribute-to-ashra.de > > FREE ASHRA NEWSLETTER subcribe here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ashranewsletter > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > From: 'Bill Fox' Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 5:46 pm Subject: EMUSIC Top 20 Monthly Report for October, 2002 WDIY 88.1 FM 'EMUSIC' Top 20 report to New Age Voice and CD Revolutions for October, 2002. Shows #289 to #293; 3-October-2002 to 31-October-2002 Reported in non-ranked order. CONTACT: billfox@f... http://wdiyfm.org/programs/emusic ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL ============================ Alpha Wave Movement - A Distant Signal - HRR Cyber Zen Sound Engine - Auslander - N-Light-N Free System Projekt - Atmospheric Conditions - Quantum Harold Grosskopf - Digital Nomad - AMP Jeff Greinke - Wide View - Hypnos Jeff Pearce - Daylight Slowly - Hypnos Jeff Pearce - The Hidden Rift - Ancient Sun Jeff Pearce - The Light Beyond - Hypnos Jeff Pearce - To the Shores of Heaven - Hypnos Jeff Pearce - Vestiges - Jeff Pearce Music Klause Schulze - Contemporary Works 1 - Rainhorse Mark Jenkins - Sequencer Loops - AMP Metlay! - Live in Denver - Atomic City Mike Griffin and Dave Fulton - Imprint - Hypnos Ozone Player - E - Visual Power Richard Pinhas - Event and Repetition - Cuneiform Stars of the Lid - Avec Laudenum - Kranky Various Artists - Sequences No. 27 - Sequences vidnaObmana - An Opera for Four Fusion Works - Hypnos Wave World - Cloudseeder - VFR From: 'Adele Outland' Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 10:14 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] Best Looking TD Member What little I've seen of Peter Baumann seems to agree with someone once calling him a 'babe magnet'. I always did like long hair. 8-Dell All IMO of course. NP: Mannheim: contrary to someone else's opinion, I love this concert. As time slips into memory, memory fades into dreams. >From: Heiko Heerssen >Reply-To: tadream@yahoogroups.com >To: tadream@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [tadream] Wuiven Riet >Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 08:15:17 +0100 > > > Personally, speaking as someone of the female > > persuasion (even if I am 50 and have a son older than > > some of you) he is also the best looking of all the TD > > guys, although Edgar in his long-haired Viking era is > > a close second. > >who is/was the best looking TD musician..now that would be a nice thread! >My vote: >1. Linda Spa >2. Linda Spa >3. Linda Spa > :-) > >Heiko _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From: 'Colin Jouxson' Date: Sun Nov 3, 2002 10:05 am Subject: Re: Lineup for 'Decades Tour' --- In tadream@y..., 'Alan Miller' wrote: > Has anyone got a good idea or suggestion what the the line-up will be for > the Tour? > > Who will be on percussion?(Iris has my vote) > Who will be on guitar? ( we know who is won't be - who ever it is I hope > they leave the wahwah peddle at home, maybe Martin will step up) > Vocals ????(could be if Cyclone, Tyger or Inferno numbers are played) > > Alan > > NP Ozric Tentacles - Curious Corn Would be Great to see EF come from behind his station to give us some Guitar,a very rare occurence these days,but something im sure the majority would appreciate,heres to Ride On The Ray(with Guitar Solo). Most excellent. Colin. NP/Ozric Tentacles-Waterfall Cities. From: Mr Paul Dryden Date: Sun Nov 3, 2002 1:11 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Lineup for 'Decades Tour' > --- In tadream@y..., 'Alan Miller' wrote: > > Has anyone got a good idea or suggestion what the the line-up will > be for > > the Tour? > > > > Who will be on percussion?(Iris has my vote) > > Who will be on guitar? ( we know who is won't be - who ever it is I > hope > > they leave the wahwah peddle at home, maybe Martin will step up) > > Vocals ????(could be if Cyclone, Tyger or Inferno numbers are > played) > > Some past member's returning would be great- Johhanes or Paul Haslinger, could I mention Chris Franke? Paulus.d ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/ terms/ > > > -- From: Rainer Rutka Date: Sun Nov 3, 2002 3:14 pm Subject: The Ones LADY GREENGRASS single found :-))))) and more... (rainer) Hi! Yesterday I had some big luck! I found the 'Lady Greengrass/Love of mine' single by 'THE ONES' at a record fair here in Konstanz! Yes! ...and it`s a PROMO, too!!!! See the special with cover- and label-scanns. I made an update to my site and included some new items. E.G. the original set of Korg 01/W disks (including the one by TD). I own a Korg/01W Pro so I re-recorded the Michiko-track, too. It's funny. The UNDERGROUND CD will be finished during the week. All reservations are done. Thank you all, who registered. CU all soon! Rainer --------------- www.rutka.de/td - - - - - - - - From: 'Michael A Jean' Date: Sun Nov 3, 2002 11:58 pm Subject: INFERNO REVIEW http://pulse.towerrecords.com/contentStory.asp?contentId=5891 Regards, Michael A. Jean Did you know you can email money with PayPal.com? PayPal.com is a completely free service that lets users Beam Money to anyone with an email address. Click on this link to sign up and see for yourself: https://secure.paypal.com/refer/pal=michaeljean%40earthlink.net Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 36994 Re: INFERNO REVIEW Admin dale1kay Mon 11/4/2002 4 KB From: 'Admin' Date: Sun Nov 3, 2002 3:51 am Subject: Re: [tadream] INFERNO REVIEW My first thought after reading this is 'Who died and made this clown king of the critics?' So I clicked on his name found his bio (end of this post). I then checked out a few other things he wrote. Some mixed some not. Like he did like Kitaro, but his review of Eno was mixed. So in short, I say he's a bit mixed on his thoughts and most likely had a bad case of bad 'din din' when he listen to Inferno. Not that I enjoyed it either but to actually go forth and wrote a scathing review like that would be like looking in the mirror and saying to myself 'YOU SUCK'. Something I say in jest all day long when I do stupid things. This guy actually believes it however when he says it to himself. Like anything else I hated at first, Inferno takes a bit to grow on you. I am still working on Tiger. I think I need to get that down before I tackle Inferno myself. I still say that any moment after so long is still a good thing. Oh well, if we all thought the same, we be bored senseless. Dale JOHN DILIBERTO John Diliberto is the host and producer of Echoes, a daily music soundscape heard on over 170 public radio stations. An award winning radio producer and music journalist his documentaries, Totally Wired and Edgar Varese's Sonic Liberation, as well as Echoes, have won several awards. He's been writing for Pulse Magazine since 1989 and is a regular contributor to Billboard magazine and Amazon.com. ----- Original Message ----- From: 'Michael A Jean' To: 'Tadreamonelist' Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 3:58 PM Subject: [tadream] INFERNO REVIEW > > http://pulse.towerrecords.com/contentStory.asp?contentId=5891 > > Regards, > > Michael A. Jean From: TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 10:22 am Subject: Re: [tadream] Random personnel thoughts > Has anyone >joining TD even temporarily, been over 30? > *In answer to the above: - Iris was and is. - Gerald was and is. :-) Best regards, Martin Kasprzak TDI- Music- Support. Tel:-49-30-23620995 Fax:-49-30-23620996 Visit our Website at: http://www.tangerinedream.org [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From: Armin Theissen Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 10:38 am Subject: Re: [tadream] Wuiven Riet I'd rather go for Linda or Iris... but thats ok ;-) a. Deb H-J wrote: > Personally, speaking as someone of the female > persuasion (even if I am 50 and have a son older than > some of you) he is also the best looking of all the TD > guys, although Edgar in his long-haired Viking era is > a close second. > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Armin dot Theissen at sun dot com phone x19080 SUN Microsystems Ireland 'To you I'm an atheist; to God, I'm the Loyal Opposition.' - Woody Allen From: Armin Theissen Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 10:51 am Subject: Re: [tadream] Wuiven Riet Owens, James wrote: > Wuivend is definitely my favorite Schmoelling. Zoo (theta) is a close > second. > > My favorite track on Wuivend is the absolutely beautiful Matjora, but almost > equal is > 'Zeit (for Stephen)' because of how it builds from chaotic clock ticks, [snip] could it be that 'Matjora is still alive' is inspired by the russion movie 'Matjora' which was released in the west around that time? I'm not 100% sure anymore about the exact title of the movie. It was one of many soviet movies which - after a couple of years - were freed for both the eastern and western audience by Gorbatshov. The story is about a village called 'Matjora' situated on one of many islands of a big river which is supposed to be flooded because of a dam project. armin ----------------------------------------------------------------- Armin dot Theissen at sun dot com phone x19080 SUN Microsystems Ireland 'To you I'm an atheist; to God, I'm the Loyal Opposition.' - Woody Allen From: 'nike_italy2002' Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 10:52 am Subject: Screen savers Hi, I've posted in my download page on http://www.cont.it/td the two screen savers contained in the Near dark DVD. Regards Nicola cont From: 'braddito' Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 2:57 pm Subject: London 15.02.03 OK, so I've sent off my cheque for a ticket - if it's going to be a special retrospective set, it should be worth 'seeing', not that you'll see much if it's SRO. My wife is less than impressed, but accept my reasoning that the restaurants will be less crowded the following weekend, so I've just about got away with it. For those not familiar with London (lucky people), The Astoria is nearest 'Tottenham Court Road' underground station on the Central (red) and Northern (black) lines. Look for Charring Cross Road, West Side. The Dominion Theatre from 1982 Logos fame is just by the tube station as well, and the Virgin Megastore is quite close if you want to do some shopping. It isn't cheap, but you might find something you won't find elsewhere. I can't recommend any local pubs - drinks will be expensive wherever you choose. Regards to all Toby Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 37000 Re: London 15.02.03 Janet Wojtecki caw8429 Mon 11/4/2002 4 KB 37003 Re: London 15.02.03 Kevin Ball kesbol Tue 11/5/2002 2 KB 37009 Re: London 15.02.03 Fishman Daniel (RC9) Luton & Dunstable Ho docned2001 Tue 11/5/2002 2 KB 37020 Re: London 15.02.03 braddito braddito Wed 11/6/2002 2 KB From: 'Janet Wojtecki' Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 6:12 pm Subject: Re: [tadream] London 15.02.03 Hi Toby and All. Sympathise completely. My wife is 5 foot nothing, so I suggested she dug out her platform shoes. Well.... I think I'm still going. As far as pubs are concerned I can't help either. Whilst London used to be my stomping ground, late night pleasure trips to Tottenham Court Road were not on my agenda ( Other than Dominion 82 and Electronica 91 when TD/Franke called). Still I'm sure we'll find a haunt. There's plenty of time to suss ( explore) the scene. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: 'braddito' To: Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 2:57 PM Subject: [tadream] London 15.02.03 > OK, so I've sent off my cheque for a ticket - if it's going to be a > special retrospective set, it should be worth 'seeing', not that > you'll see much if it's SRO. My wife is less than impressed, but > accept my reasoning that the restaurants will be less crowded the > following weekend, so I've just about got away with it. > > For those not familiar with London (lucky people), The Astoria is > nearest 'Tottenham Court Road' underground station on the Central > (red) and Northern (black) lines. Look for Charring Cross Road, West > Side. The Dominion Theatre from 1982 Logos fame is just by the tube > station as well, and the Virgin Megastore is quite close if you want > to do some shopping. It isn't cheap, but you might find something you > won't find elsewhere. > > I can't recommend any local pubs - drinks will be expensive wherever > you choose. > > Regards to all > Toby > > > ----------------------------------------------------_- > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ----------------------------------------------------_- > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/ > > Tangerine Tree info at > http://www.tadream.net/tree > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 37003 Re: London 15.02.03 Kevin Ball kesbol Tue 11/5/2002 2 KB