From:
'Piotr Millennium 3'
Date: Thu Feb 20, 2003 9:39
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Pictures from Jack Horner and Astoria Theatre
> Millennium,
Hello,
>
> very nice pictures, although I enjoyed the Warsaw ones even more!
> And what a collection of concerts and videos! Do you actually own all
> that stuff, or are you just cataloguing it?
>
This are informations from my (real - I have all these items ) collection of
recordings and CD.
> (Sorry, I probably would know myself if I spoke Polish.)
Yes , language is problem
>
> Dennis
Pozdrawiam
Piotr S. 'Millennium'
Strona zawierajaca informacje o nieoficjalnych
nagraniach Tangerine Dream :
http://www.astercity.net/~sulas/
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From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Thu Feb 20, 2003 9:49
pm
Subject: Polish translator
http://www.poltran.com/
translates from Polish to English and vice versa.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Piotr Millennium 3 [mailto:piotr3@a...]
>
> > (Sorry, I probably would know myself if I spoke Polish.)
>
>
> Yes , language is problem
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From:
'Piotr Millennium 3'
Date: Thu Feb 20, 2003 9:50
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Astoria - Feb 15th, 2003
Hi,
Incorrect information, I listen now recordings from Astoria, first track this
not :
The Spirit Of The Czar only Betwen Realities, The Spirit... is second.
Pozdrawiam
Piotr S. 'Millennium'
Strona zawierajaca informacje o nieoficjalnych
nagraniach Tangerine Dream :
http://www.astercity.net/~sulas/
> Full track listing.....
>
> Main Set (approx 2hr 8mins)
>
> The Spirit Of The Czar
>
> Warsaw In The Sun
> Comet's Figure Head
> Force Majeure
> Going West
> Lamb With Radar Eyes
> The Comfort Zone
> 'Tournado' Bridge
> Firetongues
> Prime Time
> Iris Percussion Solo
> New Tangram Remix (Dream Mixes 4?)
> New Track (Mota Atma?)
> Mothers Of Rain
> New Track (Ricochet samples - Dream Mixes 4?)
> New Love On A Real Train Remix (Dream Mixes 4?)
> From Kiev With Love (Remix Of Kiew Mission, Dream Mixes 4)
> Meta Morph Magic (Remix Of Thru Metamorphic Rocks, Dream Mixes 4)
>
> Encores
>
> Hamlet (with Edgar and Zlatco on guitar)
> Time Square (shortened version of Dream Mixes 2 version)
> Beach Scene/Theme
> Towards The Evening Star (Goblins Club version)
> Legend Leftover (last track from 1986 concerts main set)
> New Track (Mota Atma?)
From:
'Piotr Millennium 3'
Date: Thu Feb 20, 2003 9:53
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Polish translator
THX
Pozdrawiam
Piotr S. 'Millennium'
Strona zawierajaca informacje o nieoficjalnych
nagraniach Tangerine Dream :
http://www.astercity.net/~sulas/
> http://www.poltran.com/
> translates from Polish to English and vice versa.
>
> >
> > > (Sorry, I probably would know myself if I spoke Polish.)
> >
> >
> > Yes , language is problem
From:
'Chris Owen'
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 6:07
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] 1987.08.01 Tracklist
Hi Morgan,
Track 1 on Antarktis is actually from LiveMiles Part 2 (the Berlin section).
Apart from this, your list seems perfectly correct to me. None of LiveMiles
Part 1 features on either Antaktis or 20th Century Serenades.
- Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: Morgan Feldon
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 7:13 PM
Subject: [tadream] 1987.08.01 Tracklist
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but.
>
> [[[20th Century Serenades]]]
> Livemiles Berlin pt 1
> Smile
> Ride on a Ray
> Going West
> Yellowstone Park
> Tyger
> Tiergarten
> 21st Century Man
> Time for Heroes
>
> [[Antarktis]]
> Livemiles 'albuquerque part' pt 2
> Dolphin Smile
> Civilized Illusions (Shy People OST)
> Betrayal & Diamond Diary
> Love On A Real Train
> Canyon Voices
> Zen Garden
> Scuba Scuba
> Piano solo
> Dolphin Dance
>
> (1990 Bristol bonus tracks)
> Betrayal-Sorcerer
> Diamond Diary
> Love on a Real Train
>
>
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>
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>
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From:
Olav Neander
Date: Thu Feb 20, 2003 10:11
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Astoria
Chris Owen schrieb:
>Yeah, I definitely heard the alien seagull noise, twice I think. It was
>buried quite deep in the mix but was certainly there. It was sometime during
>the second half of the show, in one of the new tracks.
>
I only heard it once, in that second part, yes, but it seemed to be a
kind of variation of the 'original' one, wasn't it?
Olav
Electronic Dreamscapes from Norway - http://www.mp3.com/autopoiesis -
ICQ# 9622825
From:
'Alessandro'
Date: Thu Feb 20, 2003 10:15
pm
Subject: Christopher franke Home page
Anybody knows why the Christopher franke home page is not updated
anymore?
Alessandro
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From:
'Chris Owen'
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 6:28
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Astoria - Feb 15th, 2003
Hi Piotr,
Yes, you are perfectly correct. The 'introduction' is Between Realities,
which was also the introduction to the Warsaw 2001 gig of course.
- Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: Piotr Millennium 3
To:
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Astoria - Feb 15th, 2003
> Hi,
>
> Incorrect information, I listen now recordings from Astoria, first track
this not :
>
> The Spirit Of The Czar only Betwen Realities, The Spirit... is second.
>
From:
'Colin Jouxson '
Date: Thu Feb 20, 2003 10:28
pm
Subject: Re: Pictures from Jack Horner and Astoria Theatre
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Piotr Millennium 3'
wrote:
> > Millennium,
>
> Hello,
>
> >
> > very nice pictures, although I enjoyed the Warsaw ones even more!
> > And what a collection of concerts and videos! Do you actually own
all
> > that stuff, or are you just cataloguing it?
> >
>
>
> This are informations from my (real - I have all these items )
collection of recordings and CD.
>
> > (Sorry, I probably would know myself if I spoke Polish.)
>
>
> Yes , language is problem
>
> >
> > Dennis
>
> Pozdrawiam
>
> Piotr S. 'Millennium'
>
> Strona zawierajaca informacje o nieoficjalnych
> nagraniach Tangerine Dream :
> http://www.astercity.net/~sulas/
Thanks for those wonderful pictures Piotr,wonderful goodies.
Im just listening to the ice stadium OF 83,INCREDIBLE Brilliance.
Tangerine Dream-UNTOUCHABLE
From:
Volkmar Friauf
Date: Thu Feb 20, 2003 10:43
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Astoria
At 20:47 20.02.2003, 'fozziebear' wrote:
>I've been off list for a couple of days and missed some posts.
>
>1 Did anyone at the show hear the alien seagull noise or was I imaging
>that I heard it twice?
>
>2 Volkmar Friauf said 'the British like to queue up', as one visitor
>explained to me ;-)
>
>Hi Volkmar, that was me. The worst crime you can commit in the UK is
>jumping the queue!
Hi David,
at least I made it to the end of the queue and got the Astoria CD! (I hope
that leaving the queue for the gents' room while my wife was waiting in the
queue was not a violation of U.K. laws...)
I saw you leaving the queue, hope you were lucky at the other queue (was
there another merchandising queue? at least this is what I heard people
talking about - I didn't want to give it a try...)
BTW, I've definitely heard the seagull sound, but can't name the exact
track though. It seemed to me like a switch-over to 'Tiergarten' for some
seconds, but then the music got bassy again.
But as concert recordings seem to start floating, hopefully someone will
soon analyze this new alien-seagull appearance...
Regards,
Volkmar
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From:
ampmusic
Date: Thu Feb 20, 2003 10:45
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Astoria
Message: 22
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 22:50:14 +0100
From: 'Piotr Millennium 3'
Subject: Re: Astoria - Feb 15th, 2003
> Full track listing.....
>
> Main Set (approx 2hr 8mins)
>
> The Spirit Of The Czar
>
> Warsaw In The Sun
> Comet's Figure Head
> Force Majeure
> Going West
> Lamb With Radar Eyes
> The Comfort Zone
> 'Tournado' Bridge
> Firetongues
> Prime Time
> Iris Percussion Solo
> New Tangram Remix (Dream Mixes 4?)
> New Track (Mota Atma?)
> Mothers Of Rain
> New Track (Ricochet samples - Dream Mixes 4?)
> New Love On A Real Train Remix (Dream Mixes 4?)
> From Kiev With Love (Remix Of Kiew Mission, Dream Mixes 4)
> Meta Morph Magic (Remix Of Thru Metamorphic Rocks, Dream Mixes 4)
>
> Encores
> Hamlet (with Edgar and Zlatco on guitar)
> Time Square (shortened version of Dream Mixes 2 version)
> Beach Scene/Theme
> Towards The Evening Star (Goblins Club version)
> Legend Leftover (last track from 1986 concerts main set)
> New Track (Mota Atma?)
Sorry, I must be dim, or have missed something. I arrived during 'Going West',
so I guess I missed
4 tracks, or about 20 minutes. But wasn't someone talking about a track from
'Zeit' being
performed? Has there ever been a re-arranged version of a track from 'Zeit'?
Has it now got drums
on it? :-)
From:
'Tony Lomax '
Date: Thu Feb 20, 2003 10:47
pm
Subject: First Zeit
Not having listened to my vinyl copy of Zeit for years I want to get
the latest reissued version on cd. I see the new Sanctuary/Castle
releases have nice cardboard wrappers with original artwork but a
copy of Zeit I see in the shops does not have the nice new packaging
(it does have the original cover unlike the ugly Jive records covers
that I'm trying to get rid of! - not that they touched Zeit I know).
Can someone tell me if what I'm seeing (Zeit with original artwork
but no cardboard sleeve) is likely to be one of the newly repackaged
Sanctuary/Castle versions or is there another version with better
packaging? Also are these Sanctuary/Castle releases remastered in
the way the 'definitive edition' ones were? And does 'remastered'
mean the sound quality is improved and that it doesn't mean the music
was 'enhanced' in some annoying way?
Tony
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From:
'Colin Jouxson '
Date: Thu Feb 20, 2003 10:57
pm
Subject: Tangerine Dream-Untouchables.
They said the Great TD are Dead,the Pretenders think they can take
the throne,you can stick your Arty Farty NONSENCE up your
Arse,Tangerine Dream are the Greatest of all time,their BEST years
may be behind them,sit down grab a coffee and listen to RUBYCON.
The Modern day TD has a hell of a lot to offer,heil EF&JFi LOVES you
guys.
NP/ ART OF VISION
From:
'Chris Owen'
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 7:07
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Astoria
A few listers have made reference to Ziet being in there somewhere, but I've
not yet been able to place where in the set it was. I'm presuming it was
somewhere during one of the new tracks in the second half
Revised track listing
Between Realities
The Spirit Of The Czar
Guitar Track (can someone please put me out of my misery and tell me where
this is from?!)
Warsaw In The Sun
Comet's Figure Head
Force Majeure
Going West
Lamb With Radar Eyes
The Comfort Zone
'Tournado' Bridge
Firetongues
Prime Time
Iris Percussion Solo
New Tangram Remix (Dream Mixes 4?)
New Track (Mota Atma?)
Mothers Of Rain
New Track (Ricochet samples - Dream Mixes 4?)
New Love On A Real Train Remix (Dream Mixes 4?)
From Kiev With Love (Remix Of Kiew Mission, Dream Mixes 4)
Meta Morph Magic (Remix Of Thru Metamorphic Rocks, Dream Mixes 4)
Encores
Hamlet (with Edgar and Zlatco on guitar)
Time Square (shortened version of Dream Mixes 2 version)
Beach Scene/Theme
Towards The Evening Star (Goblins Club version)
Legend Leftover (last track from 1986 concerts main set)
Back In The USSR
- Chris
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From:
'Tony Lomax '
Date: Thu Feb 20, 2003 11:21
pm
Subject: Re: Astoria
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Chris Owen' wrote:
> A few listers have made reference to Ziet being in there somewhere,
but I've
> not yet been able to place where in the set it was. I'm presuming
it was
> somewhere during one of the new tracks in the second half
I remember hearing some Zeit sounds. I vaguely recollect they came
in at a point where Iris was randomly hitting what I presumed was a
touch sensitive pad...
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From:
'gyedid01 '
Date: Thu Feb 20, 2003 11:28
pm
Subject: Re: Astoria
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Volkmar Friauf wrote:
> BTW, I've definitely heard the seagull sound, but can't name the
exact
> track though. It seemed to me like a switch-over to 'Tiergarten'
for some
> seconds, but then the music got bassy again.
> But as concert recordings seem to start floating, hopefully someone
will
> soon analyze this new alien-seagull appearance...
>
> Regards,
> Volkmar
Is the 'alien seagull' sound available on Chris Franke's sample disc?
If it is, then it wouldn't be too difficult for TD to get it and
tweak the sound a bit...
Gabe
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From:
Armin Theissen
Date: Thu Feb 20, 2003 11:39
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] First Zeit
Hi,
I have both the vinyl and the first edition of the Castle
release (with original artwork).
It seems that the original vinyl doesn't fit on one CD so the track
Zeit (at least) is a bit shorter. Also the noise level is high.
The best sound quality I still achieve with the vinyl pressing.
Armin (your infamous 'Zeit'-lover ;-) )
'Tony Lomax ' wrote:
> Not having listened to my vinyl copy of Zeit for years I want to get
> the latest reissued version on cd. I see the new Sanctuary/Castle
> releases have nice cardboard wrappers with original artwork but a
> copy of Zeit I see in the shops does not have the nice new packaging
> (it does have the original cover unlike the ugly Jive records covers
> that I'm trying to get rid of! - not that they touched Zeit I know).
>
> Can someone tell me if what I'm seeing (Zeit with original artwork
> but no cardboard sleeve) is likely to be one of the newly repackaged
> Sanctuary/Castle versions or is there another version with better
> packaging? Also are these Sanctuary/Castle releases remastered in
> the way the 'definitive edition' ones were? And does 'remastered'
> mean the sound quality is improved and that it doesn't mean the music
> was 'enhanced' in some annoying way?
>
> Tony
>
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From:
'gyedid01 '
Date: Thu Feb 20, 2003 11:35
pm
Subject: Re: Christopher franke Home page
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Alessandro'
wrote:
> Anybody knows why the Christopher franke home page is not updated
> anymore?
>
> Alessandro
Maybe that's a reflection of how active he's been, musically
speaking, in the past couple of years.
You may not like the product TD is putting out these days, but at
least they still release SOMETHING.
Gabe
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From:
'dreamsector '
Date: Thu Feb 20, 2003 11:42
pm
Subject: Re: Astoria and gulls by the sea
I remember someone saying the last time this discussion came up that
the alien seagull sound was NOT on the Sonic Images sampling cd?
Now THAT would be funny... TD buying a sample cd to get a TD sample.
I'm sure though, that they could probably just as easily grab it off
one of the multitrack tapes if they wanted to. Or even off Encores - it
seems fairly isolated on Monolight and easy enough to sample.
But that's for TD... for everyone else, what would be the fun in that?
The challenge for everyone else, would be to devise an original sound
that would be equally as distinctive and evocative.
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'gyedid01 ' <
gyedid01@y...> wrote:
> --- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Volkmar Friauf wrote:
>
> > BTW, I've definitely heard the seagull sound, but can't name the
> exact
> > track though. It seemed to me like a switch-over to 'Tiergarten'
> for some
> > seconds, but then the music got bassy again.
> > But as concert recordings seem to start floating, hopefully someone
> will
> > soon analyze this new alien-seagull appearance...
> >
> > Regards,
> > Volkmar
>
> Is the 'alien seagull' sound available on Chris Franke's sample disc?
> If it is, then it wouldn't be too difficult for TD to get it and
> tweak the sound a bit...
>
> Gabe
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From:
Klaus Beschorner
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 12:02
am
Subject: Re: 1987.08.01 Tracklist
Sort of a religious question ;-)
When broadcast on WDR-FM two weeks later, Edgar had titled some of the
(at the time) unreleased stuff. Some of these tracks later were
officially released, but under different names.
Up to you which titles to stick to...
klaus
From:
Olav Neander
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 12:36
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Astoria and gulls by the sea
dreamsector schrieb:
>I remember someone saying the last time this discussion came up that
>the alien seagull sound was NOT on the Sonic Images sampling cd?
>
I don't remember the last discussion... but the only 'sampler' they had
in the 70s was the Mellotron. Maybe they had it on a Mellotron tape or
on another tape recorder? The synths they used, had no possibility to
store sounds (that was another stuff than Edgar & Jerome with both PC
and Mac) - so why can the same sound appear not only on TD, Baumann and
Franke studio recordings, but also on live recordings like Monolight or
even the Mannheim tape...?
Olav
Electronic Dreamscapes from Norway - http://www.mp3.com/autopoiesis -
ICQ# 9622825
From:
'John Marchington'
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 1:19
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] CHEAP INK CARTRIDGES
I have an EPSON C70 (I decided I didn't really need the extra speed of the
C80 and saved myself some money) and I'm just a bit nervous about the long
term effects of these substitute inks on the print heads, particularly as
the C70 and C80 use the pigment based variety with separate cyan, magenta
and yellow cartridges. At the moment, I'd rather play safe and spend the
extra money on the genuine article.
I'm certainly impressed with the printouts when used with photo quality
papers and my TT inserts and liners are a pleasure to behold with bold
colours and sharp text.
----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 4:42 AM
Subject: Re: [tadream] CHEAP INK CARTRIDGES
> What can I say. Ihave not had any problems with the ones I have been
buying
> from aalstarinkjet
>
>
> > From: 'Robert Grabowsky'
> >
> >
> > > OK folks PAY ATTENTION:
> > >
> > > For those of you with HP, CANON, or EPSON printers check out these 2
> websites:
> >
> >
> > Unfortunately my Epson is rather fussy when it comes to unbranded
cartridges.
> > From the 'Jettech' manufactured cartridges with ink that clogs up the
heads,
> to
> > the 'Inkrite' ones where the ink simply _disappeared_ out of the
cartridge.
> > Honest. 48 hours after fitting them, the printer says I have full ink,
but
> they
> > were clearly empty when I took them out. No leakages, the ink had simply
> > vanished.
> >
> >
> > Maff
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> > http://www.tadream.net/tree
> >
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> >
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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>
>
>
From:
'James '
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 3:03
am
Subject: TDP
Inside the front cover of 'Lily on the Beach'
Under the Heading:
Tangerine Dream Management
Tadream Production
P.O. Box 303340
1000 Berlin 30-West Germany
Is this the same address as TDI?
James
np - Lily on the Beach of course!
(Too Hot for My CD Player ;-)
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From:
Morgan Feldon
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 3:59
am
Subject: Alien Seagull
>Olav Neander
> >I remember someone saying the last time this discussion came up that
> >the alien seagull sound was NOT on the Sonic Images sampling cd?
> >
>I don't remember the last discussion... but the only 'sampler' they had
>in the 70s was the Mellotron. Maybe they had it on a Mellotron tape or
>on another tape recorder? The synths they used, had no possibility to
>store sounds (that was another stuff than Edgar & Jerome with both PC
>and Mac) - so why can the same sound appear not only on TD, Baumann and
>Franke studio recordings, but also on live recordings like Monolight or
>even the Mannheim tape...?
Apparently it is a modulated sine wave.
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From:
Gustavo Jobim
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 4:06
am
Subject: CD trade-Brazilian releases
Hello everyone,
I've seen Franke's Epic, Brazilian release, for sale. I also have TD's
Cyclone and I know where to find Haslinger's Score, all Brazilian too.
If anyone's interested in trading, please contact me offlist (I'm
temporarily in no mail mode.)
I'd like to trade for original albums. Could be almost anything, from Nine
Inch Nails to Schulze to Arvo Pärt, Modrý Efekt, Sigur Rós, Laurie
Anderson, Synkopy, Heldon, Göttsching, Kluster, Cluster, Can, Faust, King
Crimson...
regards,
gj
now playing tortoise
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From:
Eric Williamson
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 5:25
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Alien Seagull
Quoting Morgan Feldon :
> Apparently it is a modulated sine wave.
it sounds to my ears like a pair of 30% pulse waves a fifth apart with a highly
resonant filter set mid-way on the cutoff. with a moderate-attack/no decay/full
sustain/moderate release ADSR envelope applied to both the pitch of both
oscillators and also to the VCA (amplitude unit). the whole thing fed through a
200-300ms 40% feedback delay line.
though i could very well be wrong. :)
i'll try making the sound tomorrow and post my results.
i think that he made the sound with the modular or the VCS3 (though it sounds
more like a Moog filter) and then recorded it on tape and sent it with their
other 'Sound Effects' to Streetly Electronics for their custom 'FX' Mellotron
tape set.
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From:
'Alessandro'
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 7:29
am
Subject: R: [tadream] Re: Christopher franke Home page
I'M NOT AGREE, RELEASING SOMETHING IT DOESN'T MEAN PRODUCE SOMETHING OF
GOOD. PERSONALLY I PREFERE LONGER BREAK AND THEN A GOOD AND ORIGINAL
WORK.
ALE
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: gyedid01 [mailto:gyedid01@y...]
Inviato: venerdì 21 febbraio 2003 0.36
A: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Oggetto: [tadream] Re: Christopher franke Home page
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Alessandro'
wrote:
> Anybody knows why the Christopher franke home page is not updated
> anymore?
>
> Alessandro
Maybe that's a reflection of how active he's been, musically
speaking, in the past couple of years.
You may not like the product TD is putting out these days, but at
least they still release SOMETHING.
Gabe
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From:
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 7:40
am
Subject: Astoria Pictures add
hello all,
I add all my pictures from the Astoria Concert, Fan Meeting and merchandise
items at my Homepage:
http://www.opticaldream.de
Enjoy it.
Cheers
heiko
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http://www.opticaldream.de
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From:
'braddito '
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 8:14
am
Subject: Astoria show recording(s) sought
Several members of the group have mentioned listening to the show
again and I'd love to trade for a good sounding copy. Can't get a
better memento of a show you've attended can you ? Please contact me
off list if you can help.
Thanks
Toby
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From:
Dennis Nigbur
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 9:25
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Astoria
On 20 Feb 2003 at 23:21, Tony Lomax max.lo@n... wrote:
> I remember hearing some Zeit sounds. I vaguely recollect they came in
> at a point where Iris was randomly hitting what I presumed was a touch
> sensitive pad...
Afraid I can't remember exactly when this happened, either. It was in
the second half of the main set (sometime after Iris's drum solo), and it
all kicked off with Edgar starting a sequence on his controls and
looking at his watch. Then the repetitive chords from the end of 'Birth
of Liquid Plejades' came in (the bit that was ripped from Zeit for the
'From Dawn 'til Dusk' compilation) and formed the basis of some
remix-y playing around with older sounds and textures. The chords
kept flying in and out a couple of times until the end of that segment.
Dennis
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From:
Dennis Nigbur
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 9:29
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] First Zeit
On 20 Feb 2003 at 23:39, Armin Theissen wrote:
> Armin (your infamous 'Zeit'-lover ;-) )
'Zeit' is a classic. I like your taste, Armin. (My favourite is 'Nebulous
Dawn' with its dry, sombre sounds and train-track noises. Well, this
must have been recorded in the UK. Only trains in the South-East of
England make those noises...:-))
Dennis
From:
'Phil White'
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 9:33
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Astoria show recording(s) sought
Ditto but even more of a plea for those of us for various reasons could not
attend....
Hopefully...
Phil
----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 8:14 AM
Subject: [tadream] Astoria show recording(s) sought
> Several members of the group have mentioned listening to the show
> again and I'd love to trade for a good sounding copy. Can't get a
> better memento of a show you've attended can you ? Please contact me
> off list if you can help.
>
> Thanks
> Toby
From:
mengels@w...
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 10:05
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Alien Seagull
Citeren Morgan Feldon :
>
> Apparently it is a modulated sine wave.
It could be a sine wave but I doubt it as
you can hear it's being filtered with a bit of
resonance.
A sine wave through a filter/resonance doesn't
give you a major change in the original sine wave
(at least not soundwise). I personally think it's
a sawtooth or something like that. :-)
Marcel
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From:
'billythefish01 '
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 10:26
am
Subject: Re: Astoria
It was definitely in the second half. I await the recordings to be
sure exactly where though.
Also in the second half, there was a very lengthy new track
(presumably to be released on DM 4) based on one of the Logos
sequences. I will need to listen to the original album again to say
whether it was part one or two.
It seemed very appropriate with the Dominion being just over the
road.
Rgds,
BTF
nw Rubycon T shirt
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Nigbur wrote:
> On 20 Feb 2003 at 23:21, Tony Lomax max.lo@n... wrote:
> > I remember hearing some Zeit sounds. I vaguely recollect they
came in
> > at a point where Iris was randomly hitting what I presumed was a
touch
> > sensitive pad...
>
> Afraid I can't remember exactly when this happened, either. It was
in
> the second half of the main set (sometime after Iris's drum solo),
and it
> all kicked off with Edgar starting a sequence on his controls and
> looking at his watch. Then the repetitive chords from the end
of 'Birth
> of Liquid Plejades' came in (the bit that was ripped from Zeit for
the
> 'From Dawn 'til Dusk' compilation) and formed the basis of some
> remix-y playing around with older sounds and textures. The chords
> kept flying in and out a couple of times until the end of that
segment.
>
> Dennis
From:
Armin Theissen
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 10:34
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Astoria and gulls by the sea
I'm pretty sure that this sound was originally created on
a synth (no mellotron), and that that patch was not that
complicated that you couldn't reproduce it. It doesn't
sound like it would be hard to reproduce it. Some filtered
pulse with (ADSR ?) pitch modulation (if we actually
speak of the same sound...)
Sometimes it is astonishing how close you can get to
a sound you heard on record. Almost by chance I once
reproduced Tomita's famous 'talking' sound on my
Jupiter 6. Never deleted this from the memory banks...
armin
Olav Neander wrote:
> dreamsector schrieb:
>
> >I remember someone saying the last time this discussion came up that
> >the alien seagull sound was NOT on the Sonic Images sampling cd?
> >
> I don't remember the last discussion... but the only 'sampler' they had
> in the 70s was the Mellotron. Maybe they had it on a Mellotron tape or
> on another tape recorder? The synths they used, had no possibility to
> store sounds (that was another stuff than Edgar & Jerome with both PC
> and Mac) - so why can the same sound appear not only on TD, Baumann and
> Franke studio recordings, but also on live recordings like Monolight or
> even the Mannheim tape...?
>
> Olav
>
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From:
Olav Neander
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 10:41
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Astoria and gulls by the sea
Armin Theissen schrieb:
>I'm pretty sure that this sound was originally created on
>a synth (no mellotron), and that that patch was not that
>complicated that you couldn't reproduce it. It doesn't
>sound like it would be hard to reproduce it. Some filtered
>pulse with (ADSR ?) pitch modulation (if we actually
>speak of the same sound...)
>
Yes, we do... I just tried the description given by Eric in another
thread here on one of my softsynths... and it's astonishing...
>Sometimes it is astonishing how close you can get to
>a sound you heard on record. Almost by chance I once
>reproduced Tomita's famous 'talking' sound on my
>Jupiter 6. Never deleted this from the memory banks...
>
Hehe, I remember when I spent some time reproducing these very long
'falling star' sounds that Klaus Schulze used on 'Timewind' on my old JP-4.
I think I like Eric's theory about the sound on the special FX Mellotron
tapes.
Olav
Electronic Dreamscapes from Norway - http://www.mp3.com/autopoiesis -
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From:
'loart24 '
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 11:27
am
Subject: TD 12'
Just a quick question to everyone........
Been surfing some US music websites and found several listing TD 12'
of the following:
White Eagle, Force Majeure, Heartbreakers, Le Parc, Stratosfear &
Underwater Sunlight
Do these really exist or do you think they are calling a vinyl LP a
12' ??
Cheers
Mat
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From:
'Mat Mckenzie'
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 9:18
am
Subject: Backstage @ TD
Heiko
Can I ask a simple question please ! How do you manage to get backstage passes
to TD gigs ?? is it a case of standing outside the stage door for a week until
they let you in ? or do you have to run a TD related website? or just be in the
know!
I managed to shake hands with Chris Franke at the end of a concert in
Birmingham in 1986 I think but thats about my only claim to fame!
Mat
-----Original Message-----
From: heiko@o... [mailto:heiko@o...]
Sent: 21 February 2003 07:41
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Cc: tangerinedream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] Astoria Pictures add
hello all,
I add all my pictures from the Astoria Concert, Fan Meeting and merchandise
items at my Homepage:
http://www.opticaldream.de
Enjoy it.
Cheers
heiko
http://www.tribute-to-ashra.de
http://www.opticaldream.de
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From:
giuseppe milazzo
Date: Thu Feb 20, 2003 10:28
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: TT2 and TT3 downloads how to de-compress the files
Hi Chris !
I don't know if I sound silly but I have never download these kind of file so
may be I need some form of assistance.
Once you download how to de-compress to normal wave file ?
Do I need a programme for the job ?
Thank you for your assistance
Best Regards
Giuseppe Another dreamer...
Chris Richards wrote:<< The download server is
ftp:\\tt.rondua.de. The
access is via anonymous
> ftp (meaning user name is ftp and password is
your email address).
> Have fun downloading!>>
After some initial difficulty in connecting (my
first attempt returned 'Host not found'
response), I tried a second time, I'm downloading
TT2. Looking forward to listening to this stuff
when I'm done! Thanks to whoever it is who has
graciously posted this material on his/her
server!!!!! :-)
=====
May you never thirst!
The Scuba Diver Presently Known As Chris
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From:
'Michael A Jean'
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 2:04
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] TD 12'
I am sure the Voices site could answer that.
The only true 12' singles I ever recall personally owning were TATORT,
DOLPHIN SMILE, STREETHAWK, and WARSAW IN THE SUN, A TIME FOR HEROES, and
TYGER.
MJ
> -----Original Message-----
> From: loart24
> [mailto:mmckenzie@o...]
> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 6:27 AM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [tadream] TD 12'
>
>
> Just a quick question to everyone........
>
> Been surfing some US music websites and found several listing TD 12'
> of the following:
>
> White Eagle, Force Majeure, Heartbreakers, Le Parc, Stratosfear &
> Underwater Sunlight
>
> Do these really exist or do you think they are calling a vinyl LP a
> 12' ??
>
> Cheers
> Mat
>
>
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From:
Antonio Nunes
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 2:28
pm
Subject: Re: Re: [tadream] Subject: Jerome's Jacket
'John Vertical' wrote:
>
> On a related note: is anyone else annoyed if a CD's sleeve notes or the back
> cover doesn't show the track lenghts?
No, but I get very annoyed when a tracklist doesn't show the track numbers, and
everytime I want to know the name of the track I'm playing I'll have to count
the tracks on the tracklist. Of course this is not a big problem when the CD
has only 2 or 3 tracks, but when there are many tracks I often get so annoyed
that I scribble the track numbers before the track names...
Antonio
np: Astoria special release (thanks to you know who)
From:
'Bill Fox'
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 2:29
pm
Subject: EMUSIC Playlist #309 for February 20, 2003
[ Best viewed using a fixed spacing font. ]
EMUSIC is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday
at 11:00 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton,
PA and Phillipsburg, NJ.
Show #309 February 20, 2003.
RECAP:
On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Orbital Decay, a spacemusic
duo in the Quakertown area who will be at the next Soundscapes Concert Series
on February 22. The Featured CD at midnight was 'Live on EMUSIC.'
The Vinyl Starter was from the LP 'Computer Voice' by Robert Schroeder on
Racket Records.
I also played the music of Mikronesia, one of the acts that will be appearing
at The Gate to Moonbase Alpha on Friday, February 21, 2003.
Orbital Decay http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic/playlists/2003/focus03.html#feb
Soundscapes Concert Series http://soundscapes.us
The Gate to Moonbase Alpha http://simpletone.com
PLAYLIST:
ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label)
======================= ======================== ==============================
11:00 pm
Robert Schroeder In Space Computer Voice (Racket)
Robert Schroeder Computer Voice Computer Voice (Racket)
Mikronesia Flight Sin Mikronesia (none)
vidnaObmana Beyond the Shaman Spore (Relapse)
Otarion Revival Creator (Neu Harmony)
Oophoi Chakai Bardo Bardo (Electroshock)
Robert Carty As Above, So Below Tonalities (Deep Sky Music)
Alpha Wave Movement Outward Bound A Distant Signal (HRR)
Orbital Decay Tangent Orbital Decay (none)
12:00 am
Orbital Decay December 27, 2001 Live on EMUSIC (none)
1:00 am
* = exerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)
NEXT SHOW:
On the next EMUSIC, I'll conclude the month-long focus on Orbital Decay. The
Featured CD at Midnight will be 'Live on WXPN 8-12-2001.'
The vinyl show starter will be from the LP 'Ricochet' by Tangerine Dream on
Virgin Records.
Bill
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Host of Afterglow on WMUH every Thursday morning from 8:00 to 9:30.
http://soundscapes.us/~bill/amfm http://soundscapes.us/~bill/afterglow
Listen on-line to WMUH at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click REAL AUDIO
Personal site: http://soundscapes.us/~bill All times are GMT-5:00
SOUNDSCAPES Concert Series: http://soundscapes.us
From:
Liondream@a...
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 3:09
pm
Subject: Re: gulls by the sea
Olav,
I fully agree with you and am fully aware of the technical aspect. The
mellotron was the only 'sampler' very early on, and I'm sure that they did
indeed use it in that manner.
In this case I was referring to the alien seagull sound appearing NOW and at
the Astoria show. I'm saying that if they wanted to use it now and didn't for
some reason have it, they could most likely easily sample it.
Cheers!
w
<<
Subject: Re: Re: Astoria and gulls by the sea
dreamsector schrieb:
>I remember someone saying the last time this discussion came up that
>the alien seagull sound was NOT on the Sonic Images sampling cd?
>
I don't remember the last discussion... but the only 'sampler' they had
in the 70s was the Mellotron. Maybe they had it on a Mellotron tape or
on another tape recorder? The synths they used, had no possibility to
store sounds (that was another stuff than Edgar & Jerome with both PC
and Mac) - so why can the same sound appear not only on TD, Baumann and
Franke studio recordings, but also on live recordings like Monolight or
even the Mannheim tape...?
Olav>>>
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From:
Olav Neander
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 3:18
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: gulls by the sea
Liondream@a... schrieb:
>In this case I was referring to the alien seagull sound appearing NOW and at
the Astoria show.
>
Yes, of course...
So what sound did you hear at the Astoria? As I wrote earlier, I think I
heard a kind of variation of the Alien Seagull - it sounded different
from the early stuff - or maybe it just was some other background or
percussion sounds that made it sound different to me...?
Olav
Electronic Dreamscapes from Norway - http://www.mp3.com/autopoiesis -
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From:
'heineu '
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 3:37
pm
Subject: Re: Backstage @ TD
For the London Concert I had only a pres/photo pass , no backstage
pass!!!
the other side , wait after the concert for a door - and hope you
will let in !!!
Cheers
heiko
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Mat Mckenzie' wrote:
> Heiko
>
> Can I ask a simple question please ! How do you manage to get
backstage passes to TD gigs ?? is it a case of standing outside the
stage door for a week until they let you in ? or do you have to run a
TD related website? or just be in the know!
>
> I managed to shake hands with Chris Franke at the end of a concert
in Birmingham in 1986 I think but thats about my only claim to fame!
>
> Mat
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: heiko@o... [mailto:heiko@o...]
> Sent: 21 February 2003 07:41
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: tangerinedream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [tadream] Astoria Pictures add
>
>
> hello all,
>
> I add all my pictures from the Astoria Concert, Fan Meeting and
merchandise items at my Homepage:
> http://www.opticaldream.de
>
> Enjoy it.
>
> Cheers
> heiko
> http://www.tribute-to-ashra.de
> http://www.opticaldream.de
>
> Sign up for your free PAYPAL account:
> https://www.paypal.com/refer/pal=WDJX3DNKVFJ9E
>
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>
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From:
Morgan Feldon
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 4:02
pm
Subject: Alien Seagull
>Eric Williamson said:
>it sounds to my ears like a pair of 30% pulse waves a fifth apart with a
>highly
>resonant filter set mid-way on the cutoff. with a moderate-attack/no
>decay/full
>sustain/moderate release ADSR envelope applied to both the pitch of both
>oscillators and also to the VCA (amplitude unit). the whole thing fed
>through a
>200-300ms 40% feedback delay line.
Very descriptive. I tried this in Timbrewolf but had no success. :(
-Morgan
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From:
Morgan Feldon
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 4:44
pm
Subject: SHNs
>Hi Chris !
>I don't know if I sound silly but I have never download these kind of file so
>may be I need some form of assistance.
>Once you download how to de-compress to normal wave file ?
>Do I need a programme for the job ?
>Thank you for your assistance
>Best Regards
>Giuseppe Another dreamer...
http://www.feldoncentral.com/tdtree/shnguide/
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From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 4:51
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] SHNs
WOW! Very well detailed and organized site (and nice looking too)!
Excellent job, Morgan.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Morgan Feldon [mailto:feldon@f...]
>
> http://www.feldoncentral.com/tdtree/shnguide/
From:
'David Wakefield'
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 5:01
pm
Subject: The Keep CD on Ebay
Someone has actually bid £100 for it
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI
dll?ViewItem&item=2509132006&category=1566
And it's not meet its reserve
Dave W
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From:
'richter_arne '
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 5:05
pm
Subject: Re: TDP
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'James '
wrote:
> Inside the front cover of 'Lily on the Beach'
>
> Under the Heading:
> Tangerine Dream Management
>
> Tadream Production
> P.O. Box 303340
> 1000 Berlin 30-West Germany
>
> Is this the same address as TDI?
Yes it is. The zipcode changed in 1993 of course when all of Germany
got new zipcodes, but what used to be 'Berlin 30' is now 10728
Berlin, more or less.
Armin (from 14057 Berlin)
From:
Liondream@a...
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 5:25
pm
Subject: Re: alien seagulls again
Eric, this is great! Thanks for doing all the work upfront and basically
handing over a recipe. I've been meaning to try and program this just for fun.
In a few weeks I'll probably have the virtual Moog Modular (yes, Bob Moog gave
it his blessing) and it will be fun to try it out on that too.
Morgan, I'd be interested in knowing your source, since you said 'apparently.'
cheers to all!
w
<<
Subject: Re: Alien Seagull
Quoting Morgan Feldon :
> Apparently it is a modulated sine wave.
it sounds to my ears like a pair of 30% pulse waves a fifth apart with a
highly
resonant filter set mid-way on the cutoff. with a moderate-attack/no
decay/full
sustain/moderate release ADSR envelope applied to both the pitch of both
oscillators and also to the VCA (amplitude unit). the whole thing fed through
a
200-300ms 40% feedback delay line.
though i could very well be wrong. :)
i'll try making the sound tomorrow and post my results.
i think that he made the sound with the modular or the VCS3 (though it sounds
more like a Moog filter) and then recorded it on tape and sent it with their
other 'Sound Effects' to Streetly Electronics for their custom 'FX' Mellotron
tape set.
---
Eric Williamson
www.suitandtieguy.com>>>
From:
Liondream@a...
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 5:43
pm
Subject: Re: seagulls by the sea
That used to be my favorite game when I was younger and how I taught myself to
program... put on an album (not necessarily TD) and try to replicate some of
the sounds.
Following on that... another favorite game and an easy way to learn songs as
well one way of learning production... put on old TD, Yes, Genesis, and ELP
records and play along. Then put on a little 'concert' for friends and make
them guess what is coming off the album and what is coming from me.
Well, it didn't always work, but it was fun when it did.
Again - a useful learning tool.
What also backs up Eric's mellotron speculation is a 1977 TD interview in
Keyboard as well as the fact that at least some of the sounds (ARP guitar and
fuzz lead) have been converted from TDs actual tape banks and are available for
the MTron.
w
<<
Subject: Re: Re: Astoria and gulls by the sea
Armin Theissen schrieb:
>I'm pretty sure that this sound was originally created on
>a synth (no mellotron), and that that patch was not that
>complicated that you couldn't reproduce it. It doesn't
>sound like it would be hard to reproduce it. Some filtered
>pulse with (ADSR ?) pitch modulation (if we actually
>speak of the same sound...)
>
Yes, we do... I just tried the description given by Eric in another
thread here on one of my softsynths... and it's astonishing...
>Sometimes it is astonishing how close you can get to
>a sound you heard on record. Almost by chance I once
>reproduced Tomita's famous 'talking' sound on my
>Jupiter 6. Never deleted this from the memory banks...
>
Hehe, I remember when I spent some time reproducing these very long
'falling star' sounds that Klaus Schulze used on 'Timewind' on my old JP-4.
I think I like Eric's theory about the sound on the special FX Mellotron
tapes.
Olav>>>
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From:
Chris Richards
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 6:26
pm
Subject: Re: early samplers
<>
Actually, there was also the Chamberlin, which
predated the Mellotron. In fact, as I recall,
Mellotron was originally started by early
associates of the guy who built the Chamberlin.
As I understand, Chamberlin actually had patents
and eventually did try to sue the Mellotron
makers, but was for some reason unsuccessful (as
I understand, the Mellotron were able to hire
better lawyers and were able to find a loophole
in the patent law, or something to that effect).
Anyway, my point is, the Mellotron wasn't the
only sampler back in the 60's and 70's (and of
course, there's the good old tape player).
=====
May you never thirst!
The Scuba Diver Presently Known As Chris
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From:
Olav Neander
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 7:22
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: seagulls by the sea
Liondream@a... schrieb:
>That used to be my favorite game when I was younger and how I taught myself to
program... put on an album (not necessarily TD) and try to replicate some of
the sounds.
>
Great game... did you ever manage to make some kind of Mellotron sound
without having a Mellotron? Some friends almost created the Mellotron
flute sound with a couple of Korg MS-20 synths and a tape echo...
>What also backs up Eric's mellotron speculation is a 1977 TD interview in
Keyboard as well as the fact that at least some of the sounds (ARP guitar and
fuzz lead) have been converted from TDs actual tape banks and are available for
the MTron.
>
Yes, I bought the Tape banks Vol 2 for the M-tron as a christmas gift to
myself... incredible... and don't forget the ARP trombone sound...
Olav
Electronic Dreamscapes from Norway - http://www.mp3.com/autopoiesis -
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From:
Eric Williamson
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 7:53
pm
Subject: Re: early samplers
Quoting Chris Richards :
> I understand, the Mellotron were able to hire
> better lawyers and were able to find a loophole
nope. they bought him out, and continued to work together. the whole story is
over at http://mellotron.com/
you can buy a new one if you'd like. only 5 or 6 grand. a bargain compared to
the 20,000 USD digital B3 (and that's still digital).
in fact, you can even buy a mellotron loaded with _exactly_ the same tapes as
TD's. that means that this seagull argument could be settled once and for all :)
---
Eric Williamson
www.suitandtieguy.com
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From:
moxica@a...
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 7:39
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: TDP
And, of course, there is only 'Germany' now...
--
Jim Moore, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
moxica@a...
> --- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'James '
> wrote:
> > Inside the front cover of 'Lily on the Beach'
> >
> > Under the Heading:
> > Tangerine Dream Management
> >
> > Tadream Production
> > P.O. Box 303340
> > 1000 Berlin 30-West Germany
> >
> > Is this the same address as TDI?
>
> Yes it is. The zipcode changed in 1993 of course when all of Germany
> got new zipcodes, but what used to be 'Berlin 30' is now 10728
> Berlin, more or less.
>
> Armin (from 14057 Berlin)
From:
moxica@a...
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 7:41
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] The Keep CD on Ebay
Wow If I had bought a few more CD's, I could have financed my entire trip!
Hey Vic, how did you claim your CD's at U.S. Customs?
- jim
--
Jim Moore, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
moxica@a...
> Someone has actually bid £100 for it
>
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI
> dll?ViewItem&item=2509132006&category=1566
>
>
>
>
>
> And it's not meet its reserve
>
>
>
> Dave W
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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>
From:
Eric Williamson
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 7:55
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Alien Seagull
Quoting Morgan Feldon :
> Very descriptive. I tried this in Timbrewolf but had no success. :(
well it's just a rough guide off the top of my head. i'm sure about the pitch
envelope and delay, though. i'll spend some time with my Z1 tonight and see how
far i get.
maybe i'll nail it down and post a synth patch for it :).
---
Eric Williamson
www.suitandtieguy.com
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From:
'Colin Jouxson '
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 8:02
pm
Subject: Mark Jenkins-Sequencer Loops.
Hello all
May i recommend a stunning CD album by the artist Mark Jenkins,this
is one of the FINEST albums i have ever heard,called Sequencer Loops
it is released on AMP records www.ampmusic.demon.co.uk.This is an
absolute GIANT of an album.BUY IT NOW.
Best regards
Colin
From:
'dreamsector '
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 8:07
pm
Subject: Re: The Keep CD on Ebay
That's insane, imo! I haven't seen the movie in a while - the last and
first time I saw it was during its theater run.
Don't remember the music that much - except I remember liking the music
during the love scene.
But didn't someone say that it is very similar to Logos? Any thoughts
from people who just picked it up at the show?
Hmm... I'll have to dig through my lps tonight. I used to have that
single shaped like a map of Poland and the edition of Poland with the
picture disks. I saw the clear edition of Force Majeure with the
circular images off the sleeve on it when it first came up but couldn't
afford to get it (in my youth). When I went back a week later (after
skipping lunch all week so I could afford it) it was gone.
I do have a brand new unopened lp of Near Dark from Germany.
The other lps are probably a bit worn from being played, but I have
them all - including little pictures of Jerome hidden on the sleeves.
Maybe somebody might be interested in these?
W
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'David Wakefield' wrote:
> Someone has actually bid £100 for it
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI
> dll?ViewItem&item=2509132006&category=1566
>
>
> And it's not meet its reserve
>
> Dave W
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 8:16
pm
Subject: Lily = Monica?
On the original version of Lily, the cover has a woman on a beach, partially
pixelated and contrasted into sharp colors. You can't make out too many
facial details, but it sure looks like Mrs. Froese (Monica, Monique, or
however they're spelling it at the time...) Inside, it credits her with
'photo concept'.
Opinions?
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From:
'David Wakefield'
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 8:35
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: The Keep CD on Ebay
I have Poland on picture disc and the Warsaw shaped single. I also
have an orginal copy of Molecular Transfer. Must listen to it again one day.
Cheers Dave W
-------Original Message-------
From: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Date: 21 February 2003 20:07:31
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] Re: The Keep CD on Ebay
That's insane, imo! I haven't seen the movie in a while - the last and
first time I saw it was during its theater run.
Don't remember the music that much - except I remember liking the music
during the love scene.
But didn't someone say that it is very similar to Logos? Any thoughts
from people who just picked it up at the show?
Hmm... I'll have to dig through my lps tonight. I used to have that
single shaped like a map of Poland and the edition of Poland with the
picture disks. I saw the clear edition of Force Majeure with the
circular images off the sleeve on it when it first came up but couldn't
afford to get it (in my youth). When I went back a week later (after
skipping lunch all week so I could afford it) it was gone.
I do have a brand new unopened lp of Near Dark from Germany.
The other lps are probably a bit worn from being played, but I have
them all - including little pictures of Jerome hidden on the sleeves.
Maybe somebody might be interested in these?
W
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'David Wakefield' wrote:
> Someone has actually bid £100 for it
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI
> dll?ViewItem&item=2509132006&category=1566
>
>
> And it's not meet its reserve
>
> Dave W
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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From:
'dreamsector '
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 8:36
pm
Subject: Re: seagulls by the sea
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Olav Neander wrote:
>
>
> Liondream@a... schrieb:
>
> >That used to be my favorite game when I was younger and how I taught myself
to program... put on an album (not necessarily TD) and try to replicate some of
the sounds.
> >
> Great game... did you ever manage to make some kind of Mellotron sound
> without having a Mellotron? Some friends almost created the Mellotron
> flute sound with a couple of Korg MS-20 synths and a tape echo...
No, not mellotron. That was a case where a little knowledge was
probably self defeating. Because I knew it was a mellotron so I didn't
even try it. :-(
>
> >What also backs up Eric's mellotron speculation is a 1977 TD interview in
Keyboard as well as the fact that at least some of the sounds (ARP guitar and
fuzz lead) have been converted from TDs actual tape banks and are available for
the MTron.
> >
> Yes, I bought the Tape banks Vol 2 for the M-tron as a christmas gift to
> myself... incredible... and don't forget the ARP trombone sound...
Yes!!! ...and Chamberlin sounds too (which is another thread). I
hope they release further volumes. I think I read that they have access
to Klaus Schulz's former mellotron.
My favorite combo... MTron Violin 1 or MkII Violins with a bit of
reverb and a vintage auto panning phaser. I also like to turn the tone
dial back to warm it up a bit.
>
> Olav
>
> Electronic Dreamscapes from Norway - http://www.mp3.com/autopoiesis -
> ICQ# 9622825
From:
'dreamsector '
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 8:47
pm
Subject: Re: early samplers
Wouldn't that be cool! I'll wait until I can afford a couple roadies
though!
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Eric Williamson wrote:
> Quoting Chris Richards :
> > I understand, the Mellotron were able to hire
> > better lawyers and were able to find a loophole
>
> nope. they bought him out, and continued to work together. the whole story is
> over at http://mellotron.com/
>
> you can buy a new one if you'd like. only 5 or 6 grand. a bargain compared to
> the 20,000 USD digital B3 (and that's still digital).
>
> in fact, you can even buy a mellotron loaded with _exactly_ the same tapes as
> TD's. that means that this seagull argument could be settled once and for all
:)
>
>
> ---
> Eric Williamson
> www.suitandtieguy.com
>
> -------------------------------------------------
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From:
Olav Neander
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 9:04
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: seagulls by the sea
dreamsector schrieb:
> My favorite combo... MTron Violin 1 or MkII Violins with a bit of
>reverb and a vintage auto panning phaser. I also like to turn the tone
>dial back to warm it up a bit.
>
Do you have some samples...? If you're interested, I used the MKII
violins on this one:
http://artists.mp3s.com/artist_song/2831/2831319.html
:-)
Olav
From:
'Michael A Jean'
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 9:09
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Lily = Monica?
I don't have my copy handy, but I think the model was also named in the
credits. I don't think it looks like Monica (at least not if I recall how
she looks)
MJ
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Owens, James [mailto:james.owens@m...]
> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 3:17 PM
> To: 'tadream@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: [tadream] Lily = Monica?
>
>
> On the original version of Lily, the cover has a woman on a
> beach, partially
> pixelated and contrasted into sharp colors. You can't make out too many
> facial details, but it sure looks like Mrs. Froese (Monica, Monique, or
> however they're spelling it at the time...) Inside, it credits her with
> 'photo concept'.
>
> Opinions?
>
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>
From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 9:18
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Lily = Monica?
I couldn't find a model name anywhere. I'll look again tonight.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael A Jean [mailto:michaeljean@e...]
>
> I don't have my copy handy, but I think the model was also
> named in the
> credits. I don't think it looks like Monica (at least not if
> I recall how
> she looks)
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From:
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 10:22
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Digest Number 1701
Patience all. You know that if this show was recorded, it will probably show
up on an upcoming Tangerine Tree....
I am confident.
Neal
**************************
Message: 10
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:33:53 -0000
From: 'Phil White'
Subject: Re: Astoria show recording(s) sought
Ditto but even more of a plea for those of us for various reasons could not
attend....
Hopefully...
Phil
----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 8:14 AM
Subject: [tadream] Astoria show recording(s) sought
> Several members of the group have mentioned listening to the show
> again and I'd love to trade for a good sounding copy. Can't get a
> better memento of a show you've attended can you ? Please contact me
> off list if you can help.
>
> Thanks
> Toby
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
From:
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 10:25
pm
Subject: Subject: Backstage @ TD
Some friends and I went out to dinner with Paul Haslinger after the Sarasota
concert in 1988. Great guy. Didn't drink at the time and we had a great
laugh when he ordered a Long Island Ice Tea.......
Thought it was regular Iced Tea.
Neal
_________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
Message: 16
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:18:06 -0000
From: 'Mat Mckenzie'
Subject: Backstage @ TD
Heiko
Can I ask a simple question please ! How do you manage to get backstage
passes to TD gigs ?? is it a case of standing outside the stage door for a
week until they let you in ? or do you have to run a TD related website? or
just be in the know!
I managed to shake hands with Chris Franke at the end of a concert in
Birmingham in 1986 I think but thats about my only claim to fame!
Mat
From:
'goozergrafx '
Date: Sat Feb 22, 2003 1:41
am
Subject: Re: Lily = Monica?
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Owens, James' wrote:
> On the original version of Lily, the cover has a woman on a beach,
partially
> pixelated and contrasted into sharp colors. You can't make out too many
> facial details, but it sure looks like Mrs. Froese (Monica, Monique, or
> however they're spelling it at the time...) Inside, it credits her with
> 'photo concept'.
And right underneath that credit, it lists 4 additional credits.
including the name of the model: Alice Backes
From:
'Michael A Jean'
Date: Sat Feb 22, 2003 1:43
am
Subject: RE: [tadream] Lily = Monica?
The model's name is Alice Backes
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Owens, James [mailto:james.owens@m...]
> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 4:19 PM
> To: 'tadream@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [tadream] Lily = Monica?
>
>
> I couldn't find a model name anywhere. I'll look again tonight.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael A Jean [mailto:michaeljean@e...]
> >
> > I don't have my copy handy, but I think the model was also
> > named in the
> > credits. I don't think it looks like Monica (at least not if
> > I recall how
> > she looks)
>
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From:
'Adele Outland'
Date: Sat Feb 22, 2003 3:03
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] CHEAP INK CARTRIDGES
As Robert's leaf I can vouch for the fact that the covers and labels he has
printed for me are good quality.
As time slips into memory, memory fades into dreams.
>From: Robert Grabowsky
>Reply-To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
>To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [tadream] CHEAP INK CARTRIDGES
>Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 20:37:01 -0500
>
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From:
Steven Feldman
Date: Sat Feb 22, 2003 6:14
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: The Keep CD on Ebay
On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 20:07:07 -0000 'dreamsector '
writes:
>[. . .] I saw the clear edition of Force Majeure with the circular
>images off the sleeve on it when it first came up but couldn't
>afford to get it (in my youth). When I went back a week later
>(after skipping lunch all week so I could afford it) it was gone.
I know exactly how you feel. Much the same happened to me
with the KEEP LP in early 1984. I saw a copy, asked someone to hold
it for me, but he was too busy to indulge me, and when I returned to
buy it two days later, it had sold and soon thereafter the disc was
pulled from stores and became a legend. That is why the KEEP CDs --
both legit and bootleg -- command high prices: because there has never
been a wide commercial release of the music.
Steve Feldman (Me) -- 33 Brook Street; Brookline, MA 02445; 617-232-3876;
. Robert Carty: 5478 S. 235 E. #E; Murray, UT 84107;
801-281-2157; http://www.california.com/~eameece/carty.htm. Peter Gulch/
Nightcrawlers: 1493 Greenwood Avenue; Camden, NJ 08103; ; http://www.voicenet.com/~pgulch/special.html. SOME CURRENT E-MUSIC
Tangerine Dream, Nightcrawlers, Robert Carty, Moroder -- *not* Kraftwerk!
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From:
Peter Prisekin aka Dusty Chalk
Date: Sat Feb 22, 2003 7:02
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: The Keep CD on Ebay
I am not one of those people who picked it up at the show. In
fact, I haven't even A/B'd the two carefully. I will still
offer my opinion.
Logos could have been subtitled Soundtrack To The Keep, Live,
for all I could hear, but I would still like to hear studio
versions of all those tracks. There might be a few tracks
different (I don't believe the love scene shows up anywhere
else).
You should catch the TV version, extended footage, completely
different ending. I only saw it once, but IIRC, there was a
good half hour's additional material.
'dreamsector ' wrote:
> That's insane, imo! I haven't seen the movie in a while -
> the last and first time I saw it was during its theater run.
> ...
> But didn't someone say that it is very similar to Logos? Any
> thoughts from people who just picked it up at the show?
--
I remain,
:-Peter aka :-Dusty :-Chalk
From:
Chris Richards
Date: Sat Feb 22, 2003 7:17
am
Subject: Re: Mellotrons
Well, I didn't realize they were building
Mellotrons. Are they still a pain in the ass to
maintain. I remember reading an interview with
Marillion's Mark Kelly, who said he had to clean
the tape heads before every show or else the tape
would get chewed up by the playing mechanism. And
of course, the suckers weighed a ton back in the
day. Have they fixed that problem?
I also remember someone telling me that each
keystroke on a Mellotron is like pressing the
play button on a cassette player. In other words,
you have to use a lot of pressure. Have they
fixed that problem?
=====
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From:
Peter Prisekin aka Dusty Chalk
Date: Sat Feb 22, 2003 7:16
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Definitive Edition CD's
Yes, they are superior. I managed to get mine at Orpheus in
California, and (believe it or not) at Tower Records. You
have to shop around at the stores, not online. I would
definitely _not_ trust Tower Records online to get it right.
I used to see them at CDNow.com, but...I believe that's
Amazon.com, now. And it should be Virgin in either case,
but you're looking for the _remastered_, SBM, 'Definitive
Edition' import versions.
Chris Richards wrote:
> Ya know, this reminds me: I have NEVER seen
> Definitive Edition copies of...I ordered
> copies...from the
> local Borders, but the copies they recieved were
> apparently the original CD releases....
> For that matter, does anyone know if there was
> really that much of an improvement on the
> Definitive Editions?
--
I remain,
:-Peter aka :-Dusty :-Chalk
From:
'Mat Mckenzie'
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 2:39
pm
Subject: RE: Re: [tadream] Subject: Jerome's Jacket
Antonio
I thought i was the only one who thought that - it drives me nuts too!
Other related pet hates are
track listings in silly fonts you can't read
track listings in colours you can't read
track listings done round a circle or upside down
and magazines with cover CD's that don't tell you what page the listing is on!!
Mat
-----Original Message-----
From: Antonio Nunes [mailto:hyperborean@m...]
Sent: 21 February 2003 14:28
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Re: [tadream] Subject: Jerome's Jacket
'John Vertical' wrote:
>
> On a related note: is anyone else annoyed if a CD's sleeve notes or the back
> cover doesn't show the track lenghts?
No, but I get very annoyed when a tracklist doesn't show the track numbers, and
everytime I want to know the name of the track I'm playing I'll have to count
the tracks on the tracklist. Of course this is not a big problem when the CD
has only 2 or 3 tracks, but when there are many tracks I often get so annoyed
that I scribble the track numbers before the track names...
Antonio
np: Astoria special release (thanks to you know who)
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From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Sat Feb 22, 2003 11:10
am
Subject: RE: Re: [tadream] annoying tracklists
>track listings in silly fonts you can't read
>track listings in colours you can't read
>track listings done round a circle or upside down
>and magazines with cover CD's that don't tell you what page the listing is
>on!!
I've even seen some CDs which have absolutely no track information on the
covers - everything is printed on the CD itself. Is that stupid or what?
John Vertical
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From:
'plastics67 '
Date: Sat Feb 22, 2003 11:13
am
Subject: FTP for TT3
For those of you who prefer to download. I have my ftp up and
running. Please contact me offlist for access
Robert
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From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Sat Feb 22, 2003 11:16
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Lily = Monica?
> > On the original version of Lily, the cover has a woman on a beach,
>partially
> > pixelated and contrasted into sharp colors. You can't make out too many
> > facial details, but it sure looks like Mrs. Froese (Monica, Monique, or
> > however they're spelling it at the time...) Inside, it credits her with
> > 'photo concept'.
>
>And right underneath that credit, it lists 4 additional credits.
>including the name of the model: Alice Backes
But what about the Lily poem? Is that just another out-of-context fragment
of unreleased Froese literature, or a reference to some living person, or
what?
It's sort of mysterious.
...well, the same could be said for plenty of TD cover stuff - what about
that barcode in the Hyperborea cover, for example?
John Vertical
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From:
Armin Theissen
Date: Sat Feb 22, 2003 12:09
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: seagulls by the sea
Olav Neander wrote:
> Liondream@a... schrieb:
>
> >That used to be my favorite game when I was younger and how I taught myself
to program... put on an album (not necessarily TD) and try to replicate some of
the sounds.
> >
> Great game... did you ever manage to make some kind of Mellotron sound
> without having a Mellotron? Some friends almost created the Mellotron
> flute sound with a couple of Korg MS-20 synths and a tape echo...
yep... I came close (not perfect of course, but close) in the mellotron flute
and the mellotron string sound on a Roland Jupiter 6. Can't give you the
patch right now (I'm sadly separated from my JP6 as I'm in Ireland and
the JP6 is in Germany)...
armin
>
>
> >What also backs up Eric's mellotron speculation is a 1977 TD interview in
Keyboard as well as the fact that at least some of the sounds (ARP guitar and
fuzz lead) have been converted from TDs actual tape banks and are available for
the MTron.
> >
> Yes, I bought the Tape banks Vol 2 for the M-tron as a christmas gift to
> myself... incredible... and don't forget the ARP trombone sound...
>
> Olav
>
> Electronic Dreamscapes from Norway - http://www.mp3.com/autopoiesis -
> ICQ# 9622825
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From:
René Brenner
Date: Sat Feb 22, 2003 12:32
pm
Subject: webcam on jerome's desk
I was just checking the TD website and noticed following news:
'As a small gimmick, we installed a webcam on Jeromes desk ....
More infos can be found in our 'Multimedia' section on the left side!
I think they should rotate it by 180 degrees.
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From:
'heineu '
Date: Sat Feb 22, 2003 1:21
pm
Subject: Astoria Pict. again
Hello
and a big thank you to all my visitors in the last 24 hours they
visit my Astoria Pictures - over 122 visitors in 24 hours , fantastic.
Thank you very much.
But I saw many error on my larger pictures, the most wasnt available
or doesnt loading. This errors are gone.
Sorry for this.
If you want to see the larger pictures, then look at:
http://www.opticaldream.de
Cheers
heiko - Mr. Optical
From:
Morgan Feldon
Date: Sat Feb 22, 2003 2:32
pm
Subject: Re: webcam on jerome's desk
>Rene said:
>I was just checking the TD website and noticed following news:
>
>'As a small gimmick, we installed a webcam on Jeromes desk ....
>More infos can be found in our 'Multimedia' section on the left side!
>
>I think they should rotate it by 180 degrees.
And turn on the lights in the TD tape vault and sit the webcam on the shelf
for a couple hours, turning it slowly. They make 50 foot USB extension
cords, right?
No, that would be torture. Better not to know what we will never have. :(
Would be nice to see the studio though. :)
-Morgan
From:
'Paul Dryden'
Date: Sat Feb 22, 2003 2:32
pm
Subject: Re: Re: [tadream] Subject: Jerome's Jacket
try reading the track list on the outer cover of Pink Floyd's Pulse CD!!!!!
or the track list on The Wall!!!
Paulus.d
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Mat Mckenzie'
To:
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 2:39 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [tadream] Subject: Jerome's Jacket
> Antonio
>
> I thought i was the only one who thought that - it drives me nuts too!
>
> Other related pet hates are
>
> track listings in silly fonts you can't read
> track listings in colours you can't read
> track listings done round a circle or upside down
> and magazines with cover CD's that don't tell you what page the listing is
on!!
>
> Mat
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Antonio Nunes [mailto:hyperborean@m...]
> Sent: 21 February 2003 14:28
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: Re: [tadream] Subject: Jerome's Jacket
>
>
>
> 'John Vertical' wrote:
> >
> > On a related note: is anyone else annoyed if a CD's sleeve notes or the
back
> > cover doesn't show the track lenghts?
>
> No, but I get very annoyed when a tracklist doesn't show the track
numbers, and everytime I want to know the name of the track I'm playing I'll
have to count the tracks on the tracklist. Of course this is not a big
problem when the CD has only 2 or 3 tracks, but when there are many tracks I
often get so annoyed that I scribble the track numbers before the track
names...
>
> Antonio
>
> np: Astoria special release (thanks to you know who)
>
>
>
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From:
'Paul Dryden'
Date: Sat Feb 22, 2003 2:38
pm
Subject: alien Seagulls
Perhaps if members who recreate sounds could post it to a new directory at
yahoo for us all to try??
My Yamaha DJX is crying out for some samples!!!!
Paulus.d
Ps are there any software synths available Shareware or freeware that have MIDI
keyboard input to play them?
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From:
'fozziebear'
Date: Sat Feb 22, 2003 2:26
pm
Subject: Meta Morph Magic
I think this remix is really great. Yep, I will be buying DM4.
Does anyone who has heard it think there are similarities with The Orb at 4.30
and Orbital at 5.10?
David
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From:
'fozziebear'
Date: Sat Feb 22, 2003 2:30
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Astoria
Volkmar said 'I saw you leaving the queue, hope you were lucky at the other
queue (was there another merchandising queue? at least this is what I heard
people talking about - I didn't want to give it a try...)'
I rejoined a group of people I was with to see the start of the show.
After the main set I rushed down to the merchandise stand. Luckily there
was no queue and I got back at the start of USSR.
David
From:
Steven Feldman
Date: Sat Feb 22, 2003 4:47
pm
Subject: Alternate KEEP Endings (was The Keep CD on Ebay)
On Sat, 22 Feb 2003 02:02:33 -0500 Peter Prisekin aka Dusty Chalk
writes:
>You should catch the TV version, extended footage, completely
>different ending. I only saw it once, but IIRC, there was a
>good half hour's additional material.
I don't know about a whole half hour. Please tell me what
you can recall of this ending.
I myself have seen two extended endings, and they both ran
only about three and a half minutes longer. Take a look at the
text at http://thekeep.0catch.com for a description of these two
endings (plus one other).
>I remain,
>:-Peter aka :-Dusty :-Chalk
-- Steven Feldman -- webmaster
of the KEEP website at http://thekeep.0catch.com
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From:
Liondream@a...
Date: Sat Feb 22, 2003 6:43
pm
Subject: Re: thread softly synth
Not sure exactly what you mean... e.g., there are quite a few (and some even
good) freeware vsti softsynths out there. VSTi (or dxi) usually implying that
you need a host. They all (plugins) allow for midi keyboard input via the
host.
For stand-alone, you usually have to get a shareware or commercial one.
If you are not running a host or do not have a lot of other gear, one that I
can recommend is the Vaz+ (not 2002). I say Vaz+ because it's only about $30
or $40 I believe and works nicely as both a stand-alone and a plugin. I would
have said Vaz 2002, but I think the price is significantly more.
The Vaz+ also has a nice sequencer in it that is fun to play with.
I could go on and and on and on and on about this topic, so if you want to
discuss further, feel free to contact me off-list. Also check out
www.kvr-vst.com for more softsynth info and discussion. They have a nice
listing of what's available, including links to the various makers as well as
lots of user reviews. The people who hang out there run the gamut from people
who are just starting out all the way to people like Eric Persing and Rob
Papen.
Cheers!
w
In a message dated 2/22/2003 12:14:00 PM Central Standard Time,
tadream@yahoogroups.com writes:
> Message: 15
> Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 14:38:17 -0000
> From: 'Paul Dryden'
> Subject: alien Seagulls
>
> Perhaps if members who recreate sounds could post it to a new directory at
> yahoo for us all to try??
> My Yamaha DJX is crying out for some samples!!!!
> Paulus.d
> Ps are there any software synths available Shareware or freeware that have
> MIDI keyboard input to play them?
>
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From:
'K. W. Beal'
Date: Sun Feb 23, 2003 4:44
am
Subject: ISO: Mike Oldfield
Hello..
I am looking to trade for the following Mike Oldfield shows..
02 NOV 1982 - Cologne, France (2cds)
27 JUL 1999 - Cirkus, Stockholm (2cds)
If you have both or just one, please contact me offlist. I have a large and
varied list (see link below).
TIA,
Ken
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From:
'John Marchington'
Date: Sun Feb 23, 2003 11:30
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Definitive Edition CD's
The only real problems are all the typos on track titles. I presume they
used a proof reader to check them out but all I can say is that he/she
wasn't earning his/her money.
'Encore' remains somewhat problematic IMO.
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Peter Prisekin aka Dusty Chalk'
To:
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Definitive Edition CD's
> Yes, they are superior. I managed to get mine at Orpheus in
> California, and (believe it or not) at Tower Records. You
> have to shop around at the stores, not online. I would
> definitely _not_ trust Tower Records online to get it right.
> I used to see them at CDNow.com, but...I believe that's
> Amazon.com, now. And it should be Virgin in either case,
> but you're looking for the _remastered_, SBM, 'Definitive
> Edition' import versions.
>
> Chris Richards wrote:
> > Ya know, this reminds me: I have NEVER seen
> > Definitive Edition copies of...I ordered
> > copies...from the
> > local Borders, but the copies they recieved were
> > apparently the original CD releases....
> > For that matter, does anyone know if there was
> > really that much of an improvement on the
> > Definitive Editions?
> --
> I remain,
> :-Peter aka :-Dusty :-Chalk
>
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From:
'vic rek'
Date: Sun Feb 23, 2003 2:42
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] The Keep CD on Ebay
> Wow If I had bought a few more CD's, I could have financed my entire trip!
>
> Hey Vic, how did you claim your CD's at U.S. Customs?
Customs - what customs?
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From:
Paul Fellows
Date: Sun Feb 23, 2003 5:28
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Astoria
Hi all,
Nice to see some of you in the Jack Horner last week, I stayed in England
for a week so this is the first time I've been able to check my mail. A
special hi to Vic and Jim from the states (thanks for your kind comments
about the DSC Jim, you're the first person after all this time to compliment
it) and to both Heikos, really nice guys.
Talking of queueing, I have to admit that I managed to get right to the
front of ther queue without breaking the laws which go with being English,
just had incredible luck. How did I do it? Well... I had ordered my ticket
online from wayahead ticket services as advised by TDI, but because I was a
little late I had to pick up my ticket from the venue when the doors opened
at 6pm. My wife was with me (but is not a fan), and as you all know it was
bloody freezing that day so when I mentioned that the venue had seats she
finally cracked and decided she would come to the concert after all :-)
This was at 2pm - went into the box office and bought her a ticket for that
evening no problem for cost price (20 pounds) so I was a bit gutted after
paying booking fees and postage for the other one (they weren't able to give
me it though, it hadn't arrived yet). This however turned out to be a
blessing in disguise. After coming out of the Jack Horner at about 5pm and
grabbing something to eat we went to the venue. Queue was already longer
than the premier of a new Star Wars film so went to the doors and tried to
get into the box office. By this time they were locked, no chance of
getting in and full of security guards. As luck would have it a couple of
people came out so we went in quite casually and got right up to the box
office window before being questioned. The security guard informed us that
those who needed to pick up their tickets would have to queue at the right
hand of the 3 doors (the long queue was at the left hand one). So there we
were at the front of the queue, we were the first to get in and hence first
to the merchandising stand :-) Martin K was there (he needed a copy of the
Keep to play as background music before the concert started), nice guy, he
said it was nice to put a face to a name (he is familiar with the Dream
Gallery site). As a result I now have 2 spare copies each of the Keep and
the special release CD and one of the Sony Centre score. So if anyone out
there needs these and has bothered to read this far down, your luck might be
in, I'm looking for any of the following in exchange:
Das Madchen auf der Treppe ('97 Remix) promo CD single
I Just Want to Rule My Own Life Without You CD single
Cat Scan promo CD single
Marakesh promo CD single
Desert Train promo CD single
Mars Polaris mispressing
The Keep (1997)
Any Peter Baumann 7' singles from France except Biking down the Strand
Even my wife said it was a better concert than the last one she saw
(Shepherd's Bush '96, again under duress) and I have to agree that the
musical content was superior to many of their recent concerts. The bass was
a bit boomy where we were sat on the balcony though.
Couldn't stay afterwards unfortunately, we had to drive up to Oxford the
same evening to stay with friends, but didn't experience anything like the
parking and transport problems we were expecting - parked in a side street
near Hammersmith Odeon :-) Couldn't have asked for a better day really.
Even got my copy of TT3 direct from Heiko, so have plenty of listening
material now :-)
Paul
on 20/02/03 23:43, Volkmar Friauf at colognese@g... wrote:
>>
>> 2 Volkmar Friauf said 'the British like to queue up', as one visitor
>> explained to me ;-)
>>
>> Hi Volkmar, that was me. The worst crime you can commit in the UK is
>> jumping the queue!
>
> Hi David,
>
> at least I made it to the end of the queue and got the Astoria CD! (I hope
> that leaving the queue for the gents' room while my wife was waiting in the
> queue was not a violation of U.K. laws...)
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From:
Date: Sun Feb 23, 2003 7:18
pm
Subject: Klaus Schulze items for sale
hello all,
I have following items from Klaus schulze for sale, if you interested in one or
more items, please make me a offer and send a email to: heiko@o...
all items are in mint condition, and I send out all items without jewel cases -
save shipping costs.
Klaus Schulze Vinyl:
01. Armageddon dildos feat KS - We are what we are / DJ Vinyl incl Cyber Club
Mix 09:12
02. KS - Staraction / Metronome 0080.087 / 2LP
Klaus Schulze CD`s:
03. Audentity / Metronome 817194-2 / 2CD / first release on Cd
04. Cyborg / FNAC Music 662011 / 2CD / 1991 rel.
05. X / Metronome 833627-2 / 2CD
06. Totantag / Zyx 81014-2 / 2CD / 1994 rel.
07. 2001 / Brain 511295-2 / Sampler / CD
08. Blackdance / Metronome 833129-2 / CD
09. Cyborg / Spalax 14922 / Digi Pack / 2CD / 1995 rel.
10. Irrlicht / Spalax 14921 / Digi Pack / CD / 1995 rel.
11. Das Wagner Desaster / Zyx 90000-2 / 2CD / 1994 rel.
12. Goes Classic / Zyx 20297-2 / 1994 rel.
13. 72-92 the Essential / Virgin 7243 8 39300 2 9 / 2CD / 1994 rel. / France
14. En=Trance / Metronome 835158-2 / CD / 1988 rel.
15. Dreams / metronome 831206-2 / CD / 1986 rel.
16. Angst / Thunderbolt CDTH 027 / CD / UK Release / OST
17.Transfer / Metronome 823 605-2 / CD
18. Dig it / Metronome 811632-2 / CD
19. Timewind / Virgin VJCP 23040 / CD / 1991 rel. / Japan
20. Picture Music / A.V.I. CD 2003 / 1986 rel. / France
21. Moondawn / Polydor POCP-2380 / with OBI / japan
Cheers
Heiko
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From:
'Matthew Stringer'
Date: Sun Feb 23, 2003 7:43
pm
Subject: OT: Sequenced Noise
Just watched the demo on 3dMark 03 the PC graphics benchmarking software
from Future Mark.
At the end during the credits there is some kickass synth music by a
group who call themselves 'Sequenced Noise'.
I was wondering if there is anyone on the list who knows anything about
them and if they have done anything else.
Take care,
Matthew
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From:
'Robert Wear'
Date: Sun Feb 23, 2003 5:44
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Digest Number 1704
If you don't mind waiting, you can get the Definitive Editions from these
guys
http://www.absound.ca/ I got most of mine there.
Robert Wear
Rome GA
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 8:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Definitive Edition CD's
>
>
> > Yes, they are superior. I managed to get mine at Orpheus in
> > California, and (believe it or not) at Tower Records. You
> > have to shop around at the stores, not online. I would
> > definitely _not_ trust Tower Records online to get it right.
> > I used to see them at CDNow.com, but...I believe that's
> > Amazon.com, now. And it should be Virgin in either case,
> > but you're looking for the _remastered_, SBM, 'Definitive
> > Edition' import versions.
> >
> > Chris Richards wrote:
> > > Ya know, this reminds me: I have NEVER seen
> > > Definitive Edition copies of...I ordered
> > > copies...from the
> > > local Borders, but the copies they recieved were
> > > apparently the original CD releases....
> > > For that matter, does anyone know if there was
> > > really that much of an improvement on the
> > > Definitive Editions?
> > --
> > I remain,
> > :-Peter aka :-Dusty :-Chalk
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
From:
'gyedid01 '
Date: Mon Feb 24, 2003 2:17
am
Subject: Re: Meta Morph Magic
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'fozziebear'
wrote:
> I think this remix is really great. Yep, I will be buying DM4.
>
> Does anyone who has heard it think there are similarities with The
Orb at 4.30 and Orbital at 5.10?
>
> David
It's entirely possible, seeing as how Jerome managed to sneak some
nods to Kraftwerk and Gary Numan into 'The Comfort Zone'. I haven't
heard this remix, but it would be consistent with what Jerome's done
before.
Gabe
From:
peter.stoeferle@t...
Date: Mon Feb 24, 2003 10:45
am
Subject: 'Mota Atma' Inspiration Source?
Hi,
you want to find some strange sci-fi related stuff about the planet
Mota, an Atma weapon and a space base on Saturn? Go to:
http://www.almasymarquis.com/rocketcanyon/fiction/atfp/pizza3.htm
A source of inspiration (for those who always wonder where TD's record
and track titles come from)?!?
:-)
Peter
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From:
Date: Mon Feb 24, 2003 11:09
am
Subject: Duncan Mckee
Hello Duncan,
Please contact me off-list with your mailing address. I have several e-mail
addresses from you and I know you have been changing isp's lately. I am not
sure which e-mail address to use.
Thanks
Neal
In God's Love
Neal
'You can't take it with you -
but you CAN send it on ahead - Give.'
Pastor Tom Mullins
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From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Mon Feb 24, 2003 11:30
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] 'Mota Atma' Inspiration Source?
>Hi,
>
>you want to find some strange sci-fi related stuff about the planet
>Mota, an Atma weapon and a space base on Saturn? Go to:
>
>http://www.almasymarquis.com/rocketcanyon/fiction/atfp/pizza3.htm
>
>A source of inspiration (for those who always wonder where TD's record
>and track titles come from)?!?
>:-)
>
>Peter
They come from _pop culture_ ?
AcK.
I guess we'll have to suspect Jerome for this.
Gee, what will we see next? Another 'Classic Years' release getting entitled
'The Yatta Files'?
(referring to http://www.verylowsodium.com/fanimutation/exuberance.php)
--Wait a minute. If Mota Atma was supposed to be a soundtrack... so is it
going to be a soundtrack for some Sailor Moon (etc.) movie?
**does not compute**
John Vertical
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From:
TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak
Date: Mon Feb 24, 2003 12:06
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] 'Mota Atma' Inspiration Source?
At 13:30 24.02.03, you wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >you want to find some strange sci-fi related stuff about the planet
> >Mota, an Atma weapon and a space base on Saturn? Go to:
> >
> >http://www.almasymarquis.com/rocketcanyon/fiction/atfp/pizza3.htm
> >
> >A source of inspiration (for those who always wonder where TD's record
> >and track titles come from)?!?
> >:-)
> >
> >Peter
Dear all,
the title 'Mota Atma' is NOT taken from any kind of SF-source. I´ll leave
the riddle for you to solve, though... ;-)
Best regards,
Martin Kasprzak
TDI- Music- Support.
Tel:-49-30-23620995
Fax:-49-30-23620996
Visit our Website at:
http://www.tangerinedream.org
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From:
thomas.soucheleau@n...
Date: Mon Feb 24, 2003 4:25
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] 'Mota Atma' Inspiration Source?
Well, to me, it sounds more like a song from the lion king. :)
Thomas.
>A: tadream@yahoogroups.com
>De: TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak
>Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 13:06:18 +0100
>Sujet: Re: [tadream] 'Mota Atma' Inspiration Source?
>
>At 13:30 24.02.03, you wrote:
>> >Hi,
>> >
>> >you want to find some strange sci-fi related stuff about the planet
>> >Mota, an Atma weapon and a space base on Saturn? Go to:
>> >
>> >http://www.almasymarquis.com/rocketcanyon/fiction/atfp/pizza3.htm
>> >
>> >A source of inspiration (for those who always wonder where TD's record
>> >and track titles come from)?!?
>> >:-)
>> >
>> >Peter
>
>Dear all,
>
>the title 'Mota Atma' is NOT taken from any kind of SF-source. I´ll leave
>the riddle for you to solve, though... ;-)
>
>
>Best regards,
>
>Martin Kasprzak
>TDI- Music- Support.
>Tel:-49-30-23620995
>Fax:-49-30-23620996
>
>Visit our Website at:
>
>http://www.tangerinedream.org
>
>
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From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Mon Feb 24, 2003 12:28
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] 'Mota Atma' Inspiration Source?
>Dear all,
>
>the title 'Mota Atma' is NOT taken from any kind of SF-source. I´ll leave
>the riddle for you to solve, though... ;-)
>
>
>Best regards,
>
>Martin Kasprzak
*whew*
I searched further for Mota Atma, and besides that SF-tale, I found lots of
Portuguese and Indian documents, animal porn (?!?), and of course, raports
of the Astoria show.
-Any possibility of an Atem reference?
John Vertical
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From:
'braddito '
Date: Mon Feb 24, 2003 1:40
pm
Subject: Re: 'Mota Atma' Inspiration Source?
An interesting selection of topics. The cover art for the third
choice would best be avoided, but might sell well in Wales and New
Zealand. TDI/TDP could sell inflatables as the next gig.
The Indian topic looks most likely to me - time to look further
methinks.
Martin, let us know if we're getting close to the answer.
Toby
> *whew*
> I searched further for Mota Atma, and besides that SF-tale, I found
lots of
> Portuguese and Indian documents, animal porn (?!?), and of course,
raports
> of the Astoria show.
>
> -Any possibility of an Atem reference?
>
> John Vertical
From:
'vic rek'
Date: Mon Feb 24, 2003 1:37
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Astoria
> special hi to Vic and Jim from the states (thanks for your kind comments
> about the DSC Jim, you're the first person after all this time to
compliment
> it) and to both Heikos, really nice guys.
It was great to meet the creator Paul Fellows of DSC.
Too bad that there hasn't been too much more discussion on this release - I
guess it hasn't made the rounds yet?
> So if anyone out
> there needs these and has bothered to read this far down, your luck might
be
> in, I'm looking for any of the following in exchange:
>
> Das Madchen auf der Treppe ('97 Remix) promo CD single
> I Just Want to Rule My Own Life Without You CD single
> Cat Scan promo CD single
> Marakesh promo CD single
> Desert Train promo CD single
> Mars Polaris mispressing
> The Keep (1997)
> Any Peter Baumann 7' singles from France except Biking down the Strand
I hope someone can help Paul find some of these - I wish I had extras to
offer. Looks like these are the tough ones to find, esp. the USA promo CD
singles.
Vic
From:
'Glynn Naughton '
Date: Mon Feb 24, 2003 3:05
pm
Subject: Klaus Schulze is doing something soon
Hello,
I was just rooting around on Rainhorse records' site and saw this:
>Music sounds better with you
>Klaus Schulze wird am 08. März 2003 auf dem Alesis-Stand (Halle 5)
>anlässlich der diesjährigen Musikmesse in Frankfurt (05. - 09. März
>2003 ) von 12:00 bis 13:30 Uhr Autogramme geben. Dabei werden
>auch .200 signierte Cd's mit einem speziell für Alesis komponierten
>Titel (Andromeda ca. 20 Minuten) von KS verteilt. See u there!
>Alle Informationen zur Musikmesse in Frankfurt findet Ihr unter
>www.musikmesse.de.
I suspect that this says that KS will be signing autographs at this
Musikmesse thingy a week next Saturday, but as my German is as rusty
as old shipyards, I'm not really sure. Perhaps someone who reads
German can elucidate?
Glynn
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From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Mon Feb 24, 2003 3:37
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Lily = Alice
Thanks for clearing it up. Guess I'm blind...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael A Jean [mailto:michaeljean@e...]
>
> The model's name is Alice Backes
From:
Armin Theissen
Date: Mon Feb 24, 2003 3:48
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Klaus Schulze is doing something soon
It says that KS will give autographs at the Alesis-booth
on the music fair in Frankfurt on March 8th (exhibition
hall 5) from 12 to 3:30 pm. He will also distribute
200 signed CDs with a 20 minute piece called 'Andromeda'
especially composed for Alesis.
Will somebody be there? Naturarlly I'm keen on that CD!
armin
Glynn Naughton wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I was just rooting around on Rainhorse records' site and saw this:
>
>
>>Music sounds better with you
>>Klaus Schulze wird am 08. März 2003 auf dem Alesis-Stand (Halle 5)
>>anlässlich der diesjährigen Musikmesse in Frankfurt (05. - 09. März
>>2003 ) von 12:00 bis 13:30 Uhr Autogramme geben. Dabei werden
>>auch .200 signierte Cd's mit einem speziell für Alesis komponierten
>>Titel (Andromeda ca. 20 Minuten) von KS verteilt. See u there!
>>Alle Informationen zur Musikmesse in Frankfurt findet Ihr unter
>>www.musikmesse.de.
>>
>
> I suspect that this says that KS will be signing autographs at this
> Musikmesse thingy a week next Saturday, but as my German is as rusty
> as old shipyards, I'm not really sure. Perhaps someone who reads
> German can elucidate?
>
> Glynn
>
>
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From:
'Jeffrey Au-Yeung'
Date: Mon Feb 24, 2003 3:53
pm
Subject: Extra Videos
I have the following DVDs and VCDs that I can swap for TD and non-TD EM
items. If you have extra items to swap, drop me a note off-list.
DVD:
TD What A Blast US Region 1
TD Oasis Hong Kong Region 3 diff. cover
VCD:
Firestarter
Risky Business
Video Dream Mixes
Oasis
Rgds
Jeffrey
From:
Rolf Elfström
Date: Mon Feb 24, 2003 5:40
pm
Subject: Re: 'Mota Atma' Inspiration Source?
>the title 'Mota Atma' is NOT taken from any kind of SF-source. I´ll leave
>the riddle for you to solve, though... ;-)
>
>Best regards,
>Martin Kasprzak
Hmm, my limited knowledge of the various indian languages would suggest
something like 'Meeting/Gathering(or Collision/Connection) of Souls'...
(if it's at all indian in origin). But that's just an idea for a
'translation', I have no clue or suggestion where it might be taken from.
Rolf (guessing away) =)
From:
'Adele Outland'
Date: Mon Feb 24, 2003 5:48
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: 'Mota Atma' Inspiration Source?
I noticed on the Lisner concert that it was emceed by Professor Mota; he
sounds Indian. 8-Dell
As time slips into memory, memory fades into dreams.
>From: 'braddito '
>Reply-To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
>To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [tadream] Re: 'Mota Atma' Inspiration Source?
>Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 13:40:37 -0000
>
>An interesting selection of topics. The cover art for the third
>choice would best be avoided, but might sell well in Wales and New
>Zealand. TDI/TDP could sell inflatables as the next gig.
>
>The Indian topic looks most likely to me - time to look further
>methinks.
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From:
Volkmar Friauf
Date: Mon Feb 24, 2003 5:44
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] 'Mota Atma' Inspiration Source?
At 13:06 24.02.2003, Martin Kasprzak wrote:
>the title 'Mota Atma' is NOT taken from any kind of SF-source. I´ll leave
>the riddle for you to solve, though... ;-)
If I'm not wrong, 'Atma' is a word for 'divinity' or 'soul' in - hm, in
Hinduism... not sure about what language it is!
And Mota? Google mentiones an island Mota which belongs to the state of
Vanuatu (it's one of the islands which were hit by a heavy storm in January).
Regards,
Volkmar
From:
'Andrei Stcherbatchenko'
Date: Mon Feb 24, 2003 5:52
pm
Subject: Attn: Chris Stewart
Chris , please contact me off-list regarding Classic
Tree. I sent you blanks package 5 weeks ago, received no reply. Thanks in
advance.
-- Andrei
From:
Antonio Nunes
Date: Mon Feb 24, 2003 7:20
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: 'Mota Atma' Inspiration Source?
Adele Outland wrote:
>
> I noticed on the Lisner concert that it was emceed by Professor Mota; he
> sounds Indian. 8-Dell
Or Portuguese, as Mota is also a Portuguese surname. No wonder John
Vertical has found many Portuguese documents with the name Mota in them!
Antonio
np: TT3 Vol.17 - brilliant!
From:
'fozziebear'
Date: Mon Feb 24, 2003 7:15
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] 'Mota Atma' Inspiration Source?
My searches produced probably the same Portuguese and Indian documents.
I also read the words backwards and one of them becomes atom.
Anyone for scrabble?
David
From:
Synthhtnys@a...
Date: Mon Feb 24, 2003 11:10
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] 'Mota Atma' Inspiration Source?
In a message dated 2/24/2003 4:05:56 AM Pacific Standard Time,
martin@t... writes:
> the title 'Mota Atma' is NOT taken from any kind of SF-source. I´ll leave
> the riddle for you to solve, though... ;-)
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Martin Kasprzak
>
*Hmmm, well Mota is Atom spelled backwards and Atma is Sanskrit for soul....
Poly
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From:
kayleighsdad@h...
Date: Tue Feb 25, 2003 12:06
am
Subject: Any TD touring ever?
Just a curious question. I know that Tangerine Dream was set to play awhile ago
in Detroit, but cancelled the tour thanks to the 9-11 stuff, but just curious
IF a TD tour is imminent anytime in the future, if anyone has heard a thing or
not? From lack of info lately, most likely a not, but thought I'd ask, as I've
been a fan for years, and have never had the opportunity to see them live.
Figure at least we DO HAVE the opportunity to trade live boots (which have been
awesome so far to date), so at least that option is there.
Thanks for any help or info. Peace.
dan
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From:
Synthhtnys@a...
Date: Tue Feb 25, 2003 12:10
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Any TD touring ever?
In a message dated 2/24/2003 4:07:36 PM Pacific Standard Time,
kayleighsdad@h... writes:
> Thanks for any help or info. Peace.
>
> dan
>
*Hang on a second, do I recognize your name (kayleighsdad) from the Ambrosia
list?
Poly
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From:
'Whiteley, Steve'
Date: Tue Feb 25, 2003 12:26
am
Subject: RE: Mota Atma and TDI
According to my (West India) Hindu buddies:
Mota = fat
Attma = soul
fat soul?
gathering of souls sounded good, whoever said that.
C'mon Martin this is the age of the internet, we need answers now.
I think its a crime to allow fans to fleece fans, please make TDI releases
available to all. Someone was kind enough to make me a copy of The Keep, I
would replace it with a real copy at a reasonable price, 20 pounds/$32 is
alot. I guess if you can sell your copy on ebay for 100 pounds then 20
pounds is a good investment.
Thanks,
Steve
From:
Liondream@a...
Date: Tue Feb 25, 2003 12:34
am
Subject: Re: musikmesse thingy Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 15:05:33 -0000 From: 'Glynn Naughton ' Subject: Klaus Schulze is doing something soon Hello, I was just rooting around on Rainhorse recor
The Musikmesse is an annual music technology/instrument show in Frankfurt. I
think it may be even bigger (and definitely cooler) than even NAMM. (U.S.
version)
This says that Klaus Schulze will be at the Alesis stand (a manufacturer) on
March 8th from noon until 1:30 pm to give autographs. It looks like he's
autographing 200 limited edition cds (I can see people lunging for the ebay
site already). The cds feature a specially composed piece for Alesis called
Andromeda. The piece is about 20 minutes long. Andromeda, btw, is Alesis' REAL
analog synth. One assumes Andromeda probably features the Andromeda (and other
Alesis products).
How's that?
w
<<'
Subject: Klaus Schulze is doing something soon
Hello,
I was just rooting around on Rainhorse records' site and saw this:
>Music sounds better with you
>Klaus Schulze wird am 08. März 2003 auf dem Alesis-Stand (Halle 5)
>anlässlich der diesjährigen Musikmesse in Frankfurt (05. - 09. März
>2003 ) von 12:00 bis 13:30 Uhr Autogramme geben. Dabei werden
>auch .200 signierte Cd's mit einem speziell für Alesis komponierten
>Titel (Andromeda ca. 20 Minuten) von KS verteilt. See u there!
>Alle Informationen zur Musikmesse in Frankfurt findet Ihr unter
>www.musikmesse.de.
I suspect that this says that KS will be signing autographs at this
Musikmesse thingy a week next Saturday, but as my German is as rusty
as old shipyards, I'm not really sure. Perhaps someone who reads
German can elucidate?
Glynn>>>
From:
'Matthew Sawyer'
Date: Tue Feb 25, 2003 12:45
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] 'Mota Atma' Inspiration Source?
From: 'TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak'
> the title 'Mota Atma' is NOT taken from any kind of SF-source. I´ll leave
> the riddle for you to solve, though... ;-)
Riddle me this, Mr K. There's no SF link, but one of the tracks it titled 'Gate
of Saturn'? Sounds Science-Fictioney to me.
Maff
From:
'Jim Moore'
Date: Tue Feb 25, 2003 12:23
am
Subject: RE: [tadream] Astoria
From: Paul Fellows [mailto:pfellows@c...]
> Nice to see some of you in the Jack Horner last week, I stayed in England
for a week so this is the first time I've been able to check my mail. A
special hi to Vic and Jim from the states (thanks for your kind comments
about the DSC Jim, you're the first person after all this time to compliment
it) and to both Heikos, really nice guys.
Well, I'll ramble a bit more -- for me one of the delights was the music
from The Switch. I've never seen the movie (or been able to find it
anywhere), but the music was unique from almost all other TD music in that
it was almost completely piano work. Kind of like Rumplestiltskin, but less
atmospheric.
- jim
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From:
Robert Grabowsky
Date: Tue Feb 25, 2003 3:32
am
Subject: The Switch
Well Jim there is a story behind 'The Switch' making it to the DSC. Here
goes:
One Saturday while my Mom was watching True Story Saturdays on Movieplex
I came in to find her watching this movie called 'The Switch'. It is a
movie about a young man who became a quadrapeligic after a car accident.
The young man was played by Gary Cole of 'Midnight Caller', 'B5 Crusade'
and 'American Gothic' fame. He fought for the right to have a switch
installed on his ventilator within the courts of Georgia and didnot have
any success with that. And the story goes on.
Anyway while watching the movie I am listening to the music and
thinking to myself that this sounds alot like TD and maybe that it was. I
had never heard of TD doing this movie soundtrack. After the movie was
over, Mom tells me 'By hte way, the music was done by Tangerine Dream'. I
said 'Thanks Mom for making me suffer thinking it was TD and not telling me
till it was done.' After that I told Morgan as I knew he was working on the
DSC and he capped it with Tivo and extracted the music from the video.
And that is the story behind 'The Switch'
THE HIGHLANDER
Jim said:
>Well, I'll ramble a bit more -- for me one of the delights was the music
>from The Switch. I've never seen the movie (or been able to find it
>anywhere), but the music was unique from almost all other TD music in that
>it was almost completely piano work. Kind of like Rumplestiltskin, but less
>atmospheric.
From:
'Yannick EDOM'
Date: Tue Feb 25, 2003 6:53
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Klaus Schulze is doing something soon
Hi everyone
>
> It says that KS will give autographs at the Alesis-booth
> on the music fair in Frankfurt on March 8th (exhibition
> hall 5) from 12 to 3:30 pm. He will also distribute
> 200 signed CDs with a 20 minute piece called 'Andromeda'
> especially composed for Alesis.
>
>
> Will somebody be there? Naturarlly I'm keen on that CD!
>
I'm interested in this CD too.
Is there someone who can get a copy for me ?
Best wishes
Yannick Edom
Mirage Créations
Champlain B7 A 101
47 Chemin de Pelleport
31500 TOULOUSE
FRANCE
e-mail : yannick.edom@s...
From:
TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak
Date: Tue Feb 25, 2003 10:33
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] 'Mota Atma' Inspiration Source?
>
>*Hmmm, well Mota is Atom spelled backwards and Atma is Sanskrit for soul....
>
>Poly
>
>
The candidate gets 100 points!
Best regards,
Martin Kasprzak
TDI- Music- Support.
Tel:-49-30-23620995
Fax:-49-30-23620996
Visit our Website at:
http://www.tangerinedream.org
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From:
'John Marchington'
Date: Tue Feb 25, 2003 11:06
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Klaus Schulze is doing something soon
I would be too!
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Armin Theissen'
To:
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 4:48 AM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Klaus Schulze is doing something soon
>
> It says that KS will give autographs at the Alesis-booth
> on the music fair in Frankfurt on March 8th (exhibition
> hall 5) from 12 to 3:30 pm. He will also distribute
> 200 signed CDs with a 20 minute piece called 'Andromeda'
> especially composed for Alesis.
>
>
> Will somebody be there? Naturarlly I'm keen on that CD!
>
> armin
>
>
> Glynn Naughton wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I was just rooting around on Rainhorse records' site and saw this:
> >
> >
> >>Music sounds better with you
> >>Klaus Schulze wird am 08. März 2003 auf dem Alesis-Stand (Halle 5)
> >>anlässlich der diesjährigen Musikmesse in Frankfurt (05. - 09. März
> >>2003 ) von 12:00 bis 13:30 Uhr Autogramme geben. Dabei werden
> >>auch .200 signierte Cd's mit einem speziell für Alesis komponierten
> >>Titel (Andromeda ca. 20 Minuten) von KS verteilt. See u there!
> >>Alle Informationen zur Musikmesse in Frankfurt findet Ihr unter
> >>www.musikmesse.de.
> >>
> >
> > I suspect that this says that KS will be signing autographs at this
> > Musikmesse thingy a week next Saturday, but as my German is as rusty
> > as old shipyards, I'm not really sure. Perhaps someone who reads
> > German can elucidate?
> >
> > Glynn
> >
> >
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From:
'Derek Hicks'
Date: Mon Feb 24, 2003 7:15
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] TT3 SHN files available for download
Absolutely fantastic work - thanks so much.
Does anything exist in a similar light for video recordings of TD live ?
Thanks again
Kind regards
Derek
From:
'P.M. Dierking'
Date: Tue Feb 25, 2003 3:12
am
Subject: Re: Mota Atma, Sanskrit?
I can't help but think the term is something to do with Mongolian or Chukchi
language--it has almost a siberian feel.
If I read 'Mota Atma' as sanskritized prakrit, I can render a translation of
'soul transportation'.
atma = atman = soul
mota = muta = means of transport (or alternatively 'large quantity or container
of grain')
So if I take the alternative meaning of 'mota' perhaps Mota Atma is an old
Froese family recipe for a really heavy schwarzbrot, the kind that would break
your bread knife right off at the handle. After all, if one takes a look at the
cover art, it does sort of look like tangerine colored rye grains being swirled
about.
Martin, am I right about the schwarzbrot? Do I win a prize? A loaf of the
famous Froese Family Mota Atma Schwarzbrot?
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From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Tue Feb 25, 2003 1:37
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] 'Mota Atma' Inspiration Source?
> > the title 'Mota Atma' is NOT taken from any kind of SF-source. I´ll
>leave
> > the riddle for you to solve, though... ;-)
>
>
>Riddle me this, Mr K. There's no SF link, but one of the tracks it titled
>'Gate
>of Saturn'? Sounds Science-Fictioney to me.
>
>
>Maff
'Backwards atoms', Sanskrit words and a 'gate of saturn'?
I'm getting a very occultistic feeling here.. not sci-fictional.
John Vertical
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From:
'braddito '
Date: Tue Feb 25, 2003 2:24
pm
Subject: Re: 'Mota Atma' Inspiration Source?
So that means no inflatable sheep at the next gig then !
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak
wrote:
> >
> >*Hmmm, well Mota is Atom spelled backwards and Atma is Sanskrit
for soul....
> >
> >Poly
>
> The candidate gets 100 points!
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Martin Kasprzak
> TDI- Music- Support.
> Tel:-49-30-23620995
> Fax:-49-30-23620996
>
> Visit our Website at:
>
> http://www.tangerinedream.org
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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From:
TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak
Date: Tue Feb 25, 2003 3:16
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: 'Mota Atma' Inspiration Source?
At 14:24 25.02.03, you wrote:
>So that means no inflatable sheep at the next gig then !
>
No... but we might have Iris Kulterer Barbies that sing in Spanish when you
squeeze them...
;-)
Best regards,
Martin Kasprzak
TDI- Music- Support.
Tel:-49-30-23620995
Fax:-49-30-23620996
Visit our Website at:
http://www.tangerinedream.org
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From:
'Glynn Naughton '
Date: Tue Feb 25, 2003 3:56
pm
Subject: 'Mota Atma' speculations
...of course it could be that the whole thing is a wind-up along the
lines of Pink Floyd's 'Publius' nonsense, and that Martin and Edgar
are now having a right good laugh at everyone trying to unlock the
secret... :-)
Glynn
'Institutionalised cruelty is one thing. But the twisted brain-wrong
of a one-off man-mental is quite another'
--Chris Morris
From:
'braddito '
Date: Tue Feb 25, 2003 4:29
pm
Subject: Re: 'Mota Atma' Inspiration Source?
If it's full size, yes please !
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak
wrote:
> No... but we might have Iris Kulterer Barbies that sing in Spanish
when you
> squeeze them...
>
> ;-)
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Martin Kasprzak
> TDI- Music- Support.
> Tel:-49-30-23620995
> Fax:-49-30-23620996
>
> Visit our Website at:
>
> http://www.tangerinedream.org
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
From:
'Mat Mckenzie'
Date: Tue Feb 25, 2003 2:30
pm
Subject: KRAFTWERK GOSSIP
Sorry 2b off topic but sure there are TD fans out there that like Kraftwerk too
- so.........
'A freind of a friend spoke to Hütter an Schneider at one of their concerts in
Australia recently. Ralf says they have one new single ready and are working on
a 'greatest Hits' DVD.
Well, don't rush to the next HMV on monday to get that single just yet.'
Interesting if it 'really' happens!
Mat
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From:
'Mat Mckenzie'
Date: Tue Feb 25, 2003 2:28
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Re: thread softly synth
Hi there
Just thought I'd mention Triangle2 VST if you've not tried it, it's a fantastic
FREE plugin for any VST host
the fact it really is FREE is amazing!! huge analog squidgy sounds for 0 pence
is great
There are countless plugins out there but this one really is worth tracking down
available from http://www.rgcaudio.com and no I don't work for them!
Cheers
Mat
-----Original Message-----
From: Liondream@a... [mailto:Liondream@a...]
Sent: 22 February 2003 18:44
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] Re: thread softly synth
Not sure exactly what you mean... e.g., there are quite a few (and some even
good) freeware vsti softsynths out there. VSTi (or dxi) usually implying that
you need a host. They all (plugins) allow for midi keyboard input via the
host.
For stand-alone, you usually have to get a shareware or commercial one.
If you are not running a host or do not have a lot of other gear, one that I
can recommend is the Vaz+ (not 2002). I say Vaz+ because it's only about $30
or $40 I believe and works nicely as both a stand-alone and a plugin. I would
have said Vaz 2002, but I think the price is significantly more.
The Vaz+ also has a nice sequencer in it that is fun to play with.
I could go on and and on and on and on about this topic, so if you want to
discuss further, feel free to contact me off-list. Also check out
www.kvr-vst.com for more softsynth info and discussion. They have a nice
listing of what's available, including links to the various makers as well as
lots of user reviews. The people who hang out there run the gamut from people
who are just starting out all the way to people like Eric Persing and Rob
Papen.
Cheers!
w
In a message dated 2/22/2003 12:14:00 PM Central Standard Time,
tadream@yahoogroups.com writes:
> Message: 15
> Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 14:38:17 -0000
> From: 'Paul Dryden'
> Subject: alien Seagulls
>
> Perhaps if members who recreate sounds could post it to a new directory at
> yahoo for us all to try??
> My Yamaha DJX is crying out for some samples!!!!
> Paulus.d
> Ps are there any software synths available Shareware or freeware that have
> MIDI keyboard input to play them?
>
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From:
'Pergamon'
Date: Tue Feb 25, 2003 5:56
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] KRAFTWERK GOSSIP
Hehe......yeah, whats up with this band. They have been talking about a new
album for a millenium or so and nothing has been released. It seems that
whenever they are just to release an album, they trash all their material
and start all over. Don't they know there is a HUGE crowd of people just
waiting for new material from them.
Jan
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Mat Mckenzie'
To:
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 3:30 PM
Subject: [tadream] KRAFTWERK GOSSIP
Sorry 2b off topic but sure there are TD fans out there that like Kraftwerk
too - so.........
'A freind of a friend spoke to Hütter an Schneider at one of their concerts
in Australia recently. Ralf says they have one new single ready and are
working on a 'greatest Hits' DVD.
Well, don't rush to the next HMV on monday to get that single just yet.'
Interesting if it 'really' happens!
Mat
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From:
Jonathan Holt
Date: Tue Feb 25, 2003 6:27
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: 'Mota Atma' Inspiration Source?
Would her bum wiggle, y'know like the singing fish you
can buy that sing old Queen songs?! Not that she's an
old trout by any means :-)
Thank-you thank-you I'll be here all week!
Cheers!
Sexistpigjonnboy
--- TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak
> >
>
> No... but we might have Iris Kulterer Barbies that
> sing in Spanish when you
> squeeze them...
>
> ;-)
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Martin Kasprzak
> TDI- Music- Support.
> Tel:-49-30-23620995
> Fax:-49-30-23620996
>
> Visit our Website at:
>
> http://www.tangerinedream.org
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>
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From:
'Grant M Somerville'
Date: Tue Feb 25, 2003 6:52
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: 'Mota Atma' Inspiration Source?
Surely you would want to squeeze her bongos?.....
I'll get me coat.
Grant.
----- Original Message -----
From: 'TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak'
To:
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: 'Mota Atma' Inspiration Source?
> At 14:24 25.02.03, you wrote:
> >So that means no inflatable sheep at the next gig then !
> >
>
> No... but we might have Iris Kulterer Barbies that sing in Spanish when
you
> squeeze them...
>
> ;-)
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Martin Kasprzak
> TDI- Music- Support.
> Tel:-49-30-23620995
> Fax:-49-30-23620996
>
> Visit our Website at:
>
> http://www.tangerinedream.org
>
>
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From:
'fozziebear'
Date: Tue Feb 25, 2003 7:11
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: 'Mota Atma' Inspiration Source?
Martin said No... but we might have Iris Kulterer Barbies that sing in
Spanish when you squeeze them...
>
> ;-)
Is that a subtle way of saying Inferno Part 2?
David
From:
Klaus Beschorner
Date: Tue Feb 25, 2003 7:49
pm
Subject: ISO: Mike Oldfield
>02 NOV 1982 - Cologne, France (2cds)
That's gonna be haaaaard to find ;-)
cheers,
klaus
From:
'Tony Lomax '
Date: Tue Feb 25, 2003 8:12
pm
Subject: Re: 'Mota Atma' Inspiration Source?
> No... but we might have Iris Kulterer Barbies that sing in Spanish
when you
> squeeze them...
Ah, so is that a clue or did the person getting 100 points win it?
Being half Spanish I felt Mota was a Spanish word...it means Moat.
So put Moat and Soul together and you get Soul Protection, whatever
that is. But then I don't know why I'm mixing Spanish with
Sanskrit. Anyway Mota is also Mexican for marijuana so I don't know
where I go with that...
Tony
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From:
'mad4rock75 '
Date: Tue Feb 25, 2003 8:20
pm
Subject: Re: 'Mota Atma' Inspiration Source?
I get a picture of the next gig, half the 'crowd' is inflatable
Iris's, then we go home and have to persuade our wives that this is
the latest Tangerine Dream limited edition for our collection. I'm
not posting any to people who can't get to the show !
Toby
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Grant M Somerville'
wrote:
> Surely you would want to squeeze her bongos?.....
>
> I'll get me coat.
>
> Grant.
> > >So that means no inflatable sheep at the next gig then !
> > >
> >
> > No... but we might have Iris Kulterer Barbies that sing in
Spanish when
> you
> > squeeze them...
> >
> > ;-)
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Martin Kasprzak
> > TDI- Music- Support.
> > Tel:-49-30-23620995
> > Fax:-49-30-23620996
> >
> > Visit our Website at:
> >
> > http://www.tangerinedream.org
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
> >
> >
From:
Liondream@a...
Date: Tue Feb 25, 2003 10:04
pm
Subject: Re: gettin' a feeling was (mota atma)
I'm kind of leaning in the video game soundtrack direction...
<<
Subject: Re: 'Mota Atma' Inspiration Source?
> > the title 'Mota Atma' is NOT taken from any kind of SF-source. I´ll
>leave
> > the riddle for you to solve, though... ;-)
>
>
>Riddle me this, Mr K. There's no SF link, but one of the tracks it titled
>'Gate
>of Saturn'? Sounds Science-Fictioney to me.
>
>
>Maff
'Backwards atoms', Sanskrit words and a 'gate of saturn'?
I'm getting a very occultistic feeling here.. not sci-fictional.
John Vertical>>>
From:
Liondream@a...
Date: Tue Feb 25, 2003 10:11
pm
Subject: Re: OT RGC
Thanks, Mat!
Yes T2 is really nice. I used it to do one of the leads on DWTiii outtakes disk.
I also like T1 a lot and I have Pentagon and Z3ta+. Good stuff.
w
<<
Subject: RE: Re: thread softly synth
Hi there
Just thought I'd mention Triangle2 VST if you've not tried it, it's a
fantastic FREE
plugin for any VST host
the fact it really is FREE is amazing!! huge analog squidgy sounds for 0
pence is
great
There are countless plugins out there but this one really is worth tracking
down
available from http://www.rgcaudio.com and no I don't work for them!
Cheers
Mat>>>
From:
'Grant M Somerville'
Date: Tue Feb 25, 2003 7:45
pm
Subject: TT3 and Astoria
Hello Everybody,
Firstly, a huge thanks to Heiko and the backroom boys for another stunning
selection of TT disks. For people like me that have only heard 8th generation
tapes or not heard them at all, it's a revelation. My first gig was 1980 and
hearing something of this quality from 1980 was amazing. Also thanks to Chris
for the fast turnaround of blanks into music. (3 days...top bloke!).
It's a while since London now but here's my 2p worth.
Firstly, hello to Steve, John, Brian, Conrad, Simon and Ray. After some liquid
refreshment in the pub we wandered over to the Astoria queue. No problems with
getting the camera in. Joined the queue for goodies downstairs and got the
Limited CD and Melrose Years. The sound from the new and improved Astoria PA
was very, very good and a vast improvement on the SBE. Ribs and internal organs
were vibrating...nice! As for the set, I got what I expected with some tasters
of DM4 and Mota Atma. Basically, I really enjoyed the whole thing. I'm sure the
lager helped things along, it sure helped to lighten my wallet : ) I did expect
to see more people round at the stage door after the gig (hello Serge) although
it was bloomin' cold by then. But, the wait was rewarded and eventually Edgar
and Iris appeared and I got my Melrose signed. Pity I didn't have that big
silver marker earlier Ray!!
37 and still standing at stage doors...how sad is that?
Serge, your video was amazing!!
I paid my money and had a great time.
Anyway, I'm in ramble mode now so I'll shut up.
Best Wishes,
Grant S.
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From:
Steven Feldman
Date: Wed Feb 26, 2003 4:09
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] 'Mota Atma' Inspiration Source?
On Tue, 25 Feb 2003 15:37:52 +0200 'John Vertical'
writes:
> 'Backwards atoms', Sanskrit words and a 'gate of saturn'?
> I'm getting a very occultistic feeling here.. not sci-fictional.
Oooooooooooo. ;)
> John Vertical
Stephe Feldman, androgyne
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From:
Synthhtnys@a...
Date: Wed Feb 26, 2003 7:34
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] 'Mota Atma' Inspiration Source?
In a message dated 2/25/2003 8:10:45 PM Pacific Standard Time,
scfeldman@j... writes:
> >I'm getting a very occultistic feeling here.. not sci-fictional.
>
> Oooooooooooo. ;)
>
> >John Vertical
*Tangerine Dreamers wouldy likeistic toing apologizational for the
occultistic
ratheresque than sci-fictional feelingsish.
Poly
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From:
'Mat Mckenzie'
Date: Wed Feb 26, 2003 9:48
am
Subject: RE: [tadream] KRAFTWERK GOSSIP
I agree Jan - if I had a pound for the number of false starts on new kraftwerk
stuff i'd have about £10 :-)
I actually saw 'real' in the flesh withdrawn covers for Technopop that a guy
who was a KW fan (& happened to own a record shop) had & from memory it was a
bit like the Tour De France cover. They were also releasing a best of on video
years ago and that never materialised either! they take perfectionism to new
limits.........
-----Original Message-----
From: Pergamon [mailto:pergamon@g...]
Sent: 25 February 2003 17:56
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] KRAFTWERK GOSSIP
Hehe......yeah, whats up with this band. They have been talking about a new
album for a millenium or so and nothing has been released. It seems that
whenever they are just to release an album, they trash all their material
and start all over. Don't they know there is a HUGE crowd of people just
waiting for new material from them.
Jan
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Mat Mckenzie'
To:
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 3:30 PM
Subject: [tadream] KRAFTWERK GOSSIP
Sorry 2b off topic but sure there are TD fans out there that like Kraftwerk
too - so.........
'A freind of a friend spoke to Htter an Schneider at one of their concerts
in Australia recently. Ralf says they have one new single ready and are
working on a 'greatest Hits' DVD.
Well, don't rush to the next HMV on monday to get that single just yet.'
Interesting if it 'really' happens!
Mat
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From:
TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak
Date: Wed Feb 26, 2003 10:19
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] 'Mota Atma' Inspiration Source?
>
>
>*Tangerine Dreamers wouldy likeistic toing apologizational for the
>occultistic
>ratheresque than sci-fictional feelingsish.
>Poly
AAAAAAGH! It´s da conspiracee!
Best regards,
Martin Kasprzak
TDI- Music- Support.
Tel:-49-30-23620995
Fax:-49-30-23620996
Visit our Website at:
http://www.tangerinedream.org
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From:
'David Wakefield'
Date: Wed Feb 26, 2003 12:41
pm
Subject: TT1 & TT2 Artwork
Is the artwork available some where to download?
Thanks Dave W
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From:
'Yannick EDOM'
Date: Wed Feb 26, 2003 12:38
pm
Subject: Where is the famous missing track from Optical Race ?
Hi everyone
In the TD website they told that the real 'Ruling the Waves' track (the
missing one) will be soon for download.
But it has been a long time they said this.
When will the track will be really available ?
Any information ?
Best wishes
Yannick Edom
Mirage Créations
Champlain B7 A 101
47 Chemin de Pelleport
31500 TOULOUSE
FRANCE
e-mail : yannick.edom@s...
From:
Heiko Heerssen
Date: Wed Feb 26, 2003 1:04
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] TT1 & TT2 Artwork
> Is the artwork available some where to download?
Volume 1: http://croydon-cad.com/maff/tdtree/
Volume 2: http://mst3uk.com/tdtree/vol2/index.htm
regards
Heiko
From:
Dennis Nigbur
Date: Wed Feb 26, 2003 12:43
pm
Subject: Mota Atma...of course!
...and the cover art distributed on the postcard looked like a stylised
atom all along!
So, when is it coming out then?
Dennis
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Date: Wed Feb 26, 2003 1:38
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Subject: List trouble
Is it just me, or is there a problem with the list at the moment? I had a
message from Yahoo out of the blue yesterday telling me that my
address kept bouncing e-mails and that I should reset my account. The
trouble is, I don't have a Yahoo account, and it wouldn't let me reset
my account without one. Even worse, I couldn't even register because
after guiding me through all those intrusive questions I kept being told
by Yahoo that there was a server problem and I should try again in 10
minutes. This has persisted until today.
Today I then got a message that my address was no longer bouncing
mails (I don't think it ever was, since other messages arrived fine) and
that I should reply to the message to reactivate my account (I'd never
been told it had been deactivated). After doing so, I can now send e-
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don't seem to be receiving e-mails from tadream.
What's going on, and how can I fix it?
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From:
Heiko Heerssen
Date: Wed Feb 26, 2003 2:07
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] List trouble
> Is it just me, or is there a problem with the list at the moment? I had a
> message from Yahoo out of the blue yesterday telling me that my
> address kept bouncing e-mails and that I should reset my account.
I am experiencing this once or twice a week. Just yesterday I had to
reactivate my account again. This has almost become a habit for me :-(
Billy Bounce
From:
Synthhtnys@a...
Date: Wed Feb 26, 2003 3:19
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] 'Mota Atma' Inspiration Source?
In a message dated 2/26/2003 4:30:41 AM Pacific Standard Time,
martin@t... writes:
> >*Tangerine Dreamers wouldy likeistic toing apologizational for the
> >occultistic
> >ratheresque than sci-fictional feelingsish.
> >Poly
>
> AAAAAAGH! It´s da conspiracee!
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Martin Kasprzak
>
*Heh. I suppose I should explain for the non-English-as-a-primary-language
members that I was making a joke about the use of terms like 'occultistic'
and 'sci-fictional' which is... let's just say an odd use of suffix in
English.
Poly
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From:
TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak
Date: Wed Feb 26, 2003 3:39
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Mota Atma...of course!
At 12:43 26.02.03, you wrote:
>...and the cover art distributed on the postcard looked like a stylised
>atom all along!
>
>So, when is it coming out then?
>
>Dennis
>
Dear all,
approx. 1 month from now.
Best regards,
Martin Kasprzak
TDI- Music- Support.
Tel:-49-30-23620995
Fax:-49-30-23620996
Visit our Website at:
http://www.tangerinedream.org
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From:
'Pergamon'
Date: Wed Feb 26, 2003 4:04
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] KRAFTWERK GOSSIP
LOL.......maybe perfection is too small a word. If we are lucky a new single
will be released in 30+ years.....=O)
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Mat Mckenzie'
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 10:48 AM
Subject: RE: [tadream] KRAFTWERK GOSSIP
I agree Jan - if I had a pound for the number of false starts on new
kraftwerk stuff i'd have about £10 :-)
I actually saw 'real' in the flesh withdrawn covers for Technopop that a guy
who was a KW fan (& happened to own a record shop) had & from memory it was
a bit like the Tour De France cover. They were also releasing a best of on
video years ago and that never materialised either! they take perfectionism
to new limits.........
-----Original Message-----
From: Pergamon [mailto:pergamon@g...]
Sent: 25 February 2003 17:56
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] KRAFTWERK GOSSIP
Hehe......yeah, whats up with this band. They have been talking about a new
album for a millenium or so and nothing has been released. It seems that
whenever they are just to release an album, they trash all their material
and start all over. Don't they know there is a HUGE crowd of people just
waiting for new material from them.
Jan
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Mat Mckenzie'
To:
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 3:30 PM
Subject: [tadream] KRAFTWERK GOSSIP
Sorry 2b off topic but sure there are TD fans out there that like Kraftwerk
too - so.........
'A freind of a friend spoke to Htter an Schneider at one of their concerts
in Australia recently. Ralf says they have one new single ready and are
working on a 'greatest Hits' DVD.
Well, don't rush to the next HMV on monday to get that single just yet.'
Interesting if it 'really' happens!
Mat
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From:
'billythefish01 '
Date: Wed Feb 26, 2003 4:53
pm
Subject: Re: 'Mota Atma' Inspiration Source?
No.
You're all wrong.
This is in fact a misprint and the title should have read 'Moth
Asthma' - an album about the little known suffering of insects that
live in Edgar's Mellotron.
Later, there will be some corrected artwork available for download
on the website.
;-)
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Tony Lomax '
>
> Ah, so is that a clue or did the person getting 100 points win it?
> Being half Spanish I felt Mota was a Spanish word...it means
Moat.
> So put Moat and Soul together and you get Soul Protection,
whatever
> that is. But then I don't know why I'm mixing Spanish with
> Sanskrit. Anyway Mota is also Mexican for marijuana so I don't
know
> where I go with that...
>
> Tony
From:
'Pergamon'
Date: Wed Feb 26, 2003 5:09
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: 'Mota Atma' Inspiration Source?
----- Original Message -----
From:
> This is in fact a misprint and the title should have read 'Moth
> Asthma' - an album about the little known suffering of insects that
> live in Edgar's Mellotron.
LOOOOOOOOOOOL............................
From:
'Administrator'
Date: Wed Feb 26, 2003 5:24
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] List trouble
A habit I wish would stop. Same here. This is a normal Yahoo problem for
some of us. Works in cycles. For a few weeks it will bother you, then it
will be gone for a month or so. Only to return again.
dale
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Heiko Heerssen'
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 6:07 AM
Subject: Re: [tadream] List trouble
>
>
> > Is it just me, or is there a problem with the list at the moment? I had
a
> > message from Yahoo out of the blue yesterday telling me that my
> > address kept bouncing e-mails and that I should reset my account.
>
> I am experiencing this once or twice a week. Just yesterday I had to
> reactivate my account again. This has almost become a habit for me :-(
>
> Billy Bounce
From:
'ravnnet '
Date: Wed Feb 26, 2003 2:25
pm
Subject: Re: Mota Atma...of course!
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Nigbur wrote:
> ...and the cover art distributed on the postcard looked like a
stylised
> atom all along!
>
> So, when is it coming out then?
>
> Dennis
I mailed to Voiceprint and they said: April 29, 2003
Peter
From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Wed Feb 26, 2003 6:35
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] List trouble
>A habit I wish would stop. Same here. This is a normal Yahoo problem for
>some of us. Works in cycles. For a few weeks it will bother you, then it
>will be gone for a month or so. Only to return again.
>
>dale
>
> > > Is it just me, or is there a problem with the list at the moment? I
>had
>a
> > > message from Yahoo out of the blue yesterday telling me that my
> > > address kept bouncing e-mails and that I should reset my account.
> >
> > I am experiencing this once or twice a week. Just yesterday I had to
> > reactivate my account again. This has almost become a habit for me :-(
> >
> > Billy Bounce
I hope you don't get jealous, but - I've never had any problems with my
Yahoo account... :-)
John Vertical
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From:
'Michael Jean'
Date: Wed Feb 26, 2003 6:41
pm
Subject: Re: Fwd: The Switch
The sad part is that is was scheduled to be released as a CD (or at
least thats what was reported in Beyond the Horizon. I wonder what ever
happened that is wasn't issued. I recall switching on the TV just
before is started because it sounded like a depressing topic. The next
day after the roiginal boradcast at work a co-worker told me it had a TD
soundtrack.
I just found out I haven;t been getting messages since Sunday because
my account was in bounce mode too! nice to be back!
Jim said:
>Well, I'll ramble a bit more -- for me one of the delights was the
music
>from The Switch. I've never seen the movie (or been able to find it
>anywhere), but the music was unique from almost all other TD music
in that
>it was almost completely piano work. Kind of like Rumplestiltskin,
but less
>atmospheric.
--- End forwarded message ---
Regards,
Michael A. Jean
The Brookings Institution
1775 Massachusetts Avenue, N.W.
Washington, DC 20036-2188
TEL: (202)-797-6214
FAX: (202)-797-2479
EMAIL: mjean@b...
http://www.brookings.edu
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From:
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Date: Wed Feb 26, 2003 6:44
pm
Subject: List Trouble
I had the bouncing email thing, for the first time, last week. Got is sorted
out by changing identity and activating account.
David
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From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Wed Feb 26, 2003 6:46
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Ruling the Waves
>In the TD website they told that the real 'Ruling the Waves' track (the
>missing one) will be soon for download.
>
>But it has been a long time they said this.
>
>When will the track will be really available ?
>
>Any information ?
It's already there. Just open Outland from the jukebox, and wait. It will
only repeat 78 times and then switch over to Ruling the Waves. (Also Rubycon
pt 1 yields an unheard '75 concert after 922 repeats, while Cloudburst
Flight speeds up by 0,05 % per listening time...)
;-)
John Vertical
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From:
'Robert Asmus'
Date: Wed Feb 26, 2003 11:17
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] List trouble
Well I hate to rub salt in the wound but I have never had a problem
With getting bounced.
Robert Asmus
-----Original Message-----
From: John Vertical [mailto:johnvertical@h...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 1:35 PM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] List trouble
>A habit I wish would stop. Same here. This is a normal Yahoo problem
for
>some of us. Works in cycles. For a few weeks it will bother you, then
it
>will be gone for a month or so. Only to return again.
>
>dale
>
> > > Is it just me, or is there a problem with the list at the moment?
I
>had
>a
> > > message from Yahoo out of the blue yesterday telling me that my
> > > address kept bouncing e-mails and that I should reset my account.
> >
> > I am experiencing this once or twice a week. Just yesterday I had to
> > reactivate my account again. This has almost become a habit for me
:-(
> >
> > Billy Bounce
I hope you don't get jealous, but - I've never had any problems with my
Yahoo account... :-)
John Vertical
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From:
Date: Wed Feb 26, 2003 11:23
pm
Subject: Kraftwerk - Klaus Schulze
Hello All,
I have just received, in a trade, a copy of a boot? entitled 'Kraftwerk Concert
Classics'. Any idea what this is, and if I can get the artwork for it??
I also have a copy of something called 'Kraftwerk Computersinfonien' and a
Klaus Schulze CD I cannot identify at all.
Anyone willing to help with artwork and/or identification???
Thanks
In God's Love
Neal
'You can't take it with you -
but you CAN send it on ahead - Give.'
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From:
Antonio Nunes
Date: Wed Feb 26, 2003 11:49
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Kraftwerk - Klaus Schulze
strat95@b... wrote:
>
> I have just received, in a trade, a copy of a boot? entitled 'Kraftwerk
Concert Classics'. Any idea what this is, and if I can get the artwork for it??
Point your browser to http://www.groove.nl/cd/1/19760.html and read the
review. Apparently it's not a bootleg, but it has no official clearance
from Kraftwerk. Confused? So am I :-)
Antonio Nunes
np: TT3 Vol.20
From:
Jorge Figueiredo
Date: Thu Feb 27, 2003 12:02
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Kraftwerk - Klaus Schulze
On 2/26/2003 11:23 PM, strat95@b... wrote:
> I also have a copy of something called 'Kraftwerk Computersinfonien' and a
Klaus Schulze CD I cannot identify at all.
Kraftwerk Computersinfonien - live in Karlsruhe 18.10.1997. Includes
remixes as bonustracks
Check http://www4.big.or.jp/~blanks/kraft/boots/frame/boot.html
or http://home.t-online.de/home/520078056126-0001/discog.htm
artwork: http://home.t-online.de/home/520078056126-0002/2bocdcsn.jpg
Jorge Figueiredo
((> TD - TT3 vol 25 <))
From:
PENFOLD
Date: Thu Feb 27, 2003 1:07
am
Subject: getting a copy of TT2 & TT3
I've emailed my branch(s) several times about making arrangements to send
him some blank CD-Rs and have not so much as gotten a reply.
Could the Tree Gurus please assign me another branch or someone in the
tree help me out here?
BTW: My status has changed, for several months now I have a CD burner in my
computer, and can graduate from being a Lowly Leaf to a Branch with the
capability to serve up to 5 Leaves
Pete Isaacson aka °º¤ø,¸DJ DreamHead¸,ø¤º°
mailto:penfold@a...?subject=DJDreamHead
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Yahoo Chat: penfold235 ····· AIM: PENFOLD235
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$$.....Damn!!!!!
'Absence of the KEEP LP is not evidence of its non-existence.' - Steven
Feldman
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From:
'Marc Dodsworth'
Date: Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:02
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] List trouble
Hi
I've had this problem too. I've been using a program called Mailwasher to
try and get rid
of some of the spam. One option it has it bounce messages as if your mail
address isn't valid
and as some members of this list seem to have been added to spamming
blacklists I thought
maybe I'd bounce some list messages but I've been very careful in making
sure I don't and I've still be been getting suspended.
Does anyone know if messages being bounced what or what ever from other
yahoo mail accounts (i.e if some-one is spamming from a yahoo mail account)
whether bouncing that would
be causing the suspension.
Marc
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To:
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From:
Eric Williamson
Date: Thu Feb 27, 2003 9:52
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] KRAFTWERK GOSSIP
On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 10:04 AM, Pergamon wrote:
> Hehe......yeah, whats up with this band. They have been talking about
> a new
> album for a millenium or so and nothing has been released. It seems
> that
methinks that rolf and florian should take a hint from klaus: people
want it wether it's 'done' or not, so give it to them. 50 CDs of it if
you have to. and what exactly does 'done' mean anyway?
i swear to god the two coolest peeps for release policy are Robert
Fripp and Klaus Schulze.
---
Eric Williamson
www.suitandtieguy.com
From:
'Pergamon'
Date: Thu Feb 27, 2003 10:04
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] KRAFTWERK GOSSIP
I guess a lot of bands could learn a thing or two from these guys. Tangerine
Dream, are you listening????????.................=O)
Jan
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Eric Williamson'
> methinks that rolf and florian should take a hint from klaus: people
> want it wether it's 'done' or not, so give it to them. 50 CDs of it if
> you have to. and what exactly does 'done' mean anyway?
> i swear to god the two coolest peeps for release policy are Robert
> Fripp and Klaus Schulze.
> Eric Williamson
From:
Marion Horrod
Date: Thu Feb 27, 2003 10:35
am
Subject: Re: 'Mota Atma' Inspiration Source?
Well I reckon it's a tribute to 'Atom Heart Mother'. With a slight nod to
the possibility of impending war.
(Anybody read Heinlein's 'The day after tomorrow'?)
LnH
Marion
'The glass is neither half full or half empty. It's twice the size it needs
to be ...' S. Blakemore
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From:
Bradley Duke/Cambridge/IBM
Date: Thu Feb 27, 2003 12:53
pm
Subject: Web site Update
Why are we getting all of our information regarding forthcoming TD releases
outside of the website?
What's going on?
I want to hear this from the 'horses mouth' - long before the other
barnyard animals open their mouths....
Is it just me?
B
From:
'billythefish01 '
Date: Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:19
pm
Subject: Green Desert / Le Parc review
This month's Q magazine reviews the re-releases:
<>
They give GD three stars and LP two.
From:
Jorge Figueiredo
Date: Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:23
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Kraftwerk - Klaus Schulze
I read the other day a curious information regarding the connection
between Kraftwerk and Schulze:
In 2000, the german producer Integral Films realized a TV movie called
'Klassentreffen - Mordfall unter Freunden (Class Reunion - Murder Affair
Among Friends)', and this film counts with the appearance of a band (The
Wondering Stars - Sputnik Roadhouse) playing the song 'Those Were the
Days' during about 3 minutes. This band was composed by the following
members: Klaus Schulze (organ), F. J. Krueger (guitar), Marian Gold
(vocals), Toni Nissl (drums) and a certain 'Fred Schnitzel' playing
bass. 'Fred' is also known by the name of 'Florian Schneider' when he
plays in another group called Kraftwerk. The film is directed by
Diethard Kuester, screenplay by Jochen Brunow, and the main cast is:
Natalia Woerner, Leslie Malton, Christoph M. Ohrt and Esther Schweins.
(Informations by courtesy of Jan Reetze - Hamburg - Germany)
More info and video in http://kraftwerk.technopop.com.br/curios.php
Jorge Figueiredo
((> TD - TT3 vol 23 Berlin 1973 <))
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From:
'Michael Jean'
Date: Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:15
pm
Subject: Schulze CW II
I know this isn't a Schulze list, but he seems to have come up a lot
this week.
I never ordered Contemporary Works II, and haven;t seen any reviews of
it. Has anyone done a review, or have a website that discusses it?
Regards,
Michael A. Jean
The Brookings Institution
1775 Massachusetts Avenue, N.W.
Washington, DC 20036-2188
TEL: (202)-797-6214
FAX: (202)-797-2479
EMAIL: mjean@b...
http://www.brookings.edu
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From:
Armin Theissen
Date: Thu Feb 27, 2003 3:20
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Schulze CW II
Hi,
no, don't know of any, but since I have CWII and really
love it, maybe I should post one? If I find some time.
Now, does anybody have CWI ? I missed that one (damn shame)
armin
Michael Jean wrote:
> I know this isn't a Schulze list, but he seems to have come up a lot
> this week.
>
> I never ordered Contemporary Works II, and haven;t seen any reviews of
> it. Has anyone done a review, or have a website that discusses it?
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Michael A. Jean
> The Brookings Institution
> 1775 Massachusetts Avenue, N.W.
> Washington, DC 20036-2188
>
> TEL: (202)-797-6214
> FAX: (202)-797-2479
> EMAIL: mjean@b...
> http://www.brookings.edu
>
>
>
>
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From:
'creative_operator '
Date: Thu Feb 27, 2003 5:54
pm
Subject: Astoria Photos / Video Clips
Dear Owner / Moderator
New to the Group and would therefore like advice regarding the
posting of photos / video clips(no sound) to the Group Photos /
Files area, for fans to share.
Unfortunately I do not have my own web site to host these documents.
Thanks for your time.
Derek ('Creative_Operator')
From:
'Mat Mckenzie'
Date: Thu Feb 27, 2003 4:20
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Kraftwerk - Klaus Schulze
A fantastic weblink for KW thanks Jorge,
Great news.......
'
25/02/2003
New Kraftwerk album is 99% completed
At recently interview (24/01/2003) to 'Triple J',
radio station from Sydney, the reporter Richard Kingsmill
asked to Ralf Hutter about the Kraftwerk new album, and
how much it is completed. Ralf said that they are working
on different tracks, and the new album is 99% completed.
He talked too about the new stage setup, and how they feel
more moveable compared to past tours.'
Mat
-----Original Message-----
From: Jorge Figueiredo [mailto:jorgefig@e...]
Sent: 27 February 2003 14:24
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] Kraftwerk - Klaus Schulze
I read the other day a curious information regarding the connection
between Kraftwerk and Schulze:
In 2000, the german producer Integral Films realized a TV movie called
'Klassentreffen - Mordfall unter Freunden (Class Reunion - Murder Affair
Among Friends)', and this film counts with the appearance of a band (The
Wondering Stars - Sputnik Roadhouse) playing the song 'Those Were the
Days' during about 3 minutes. This band was composed by the following
members: Klaus Schulze (organ), F. J. Krueger (guitar), Marian Gold
(vocals), Toni Nissl (drums) and a certain 'Fred Schnitzel' playing
bass. 'Fred' is also known by the name of 'Florian Schneider' when he
plays in another group called Kraftwerk. The film is directed by
Diethard Kuester, screenplay by Jochen Brunow, and the main cast is:
Natalia Woerner, Leslie Malton, Christoph M. Ohrt and Esther Schweins.
(Informations by courtesy of Jan Reetze - Hamburg - Germany)
More info and video in http://kraftwerk.technopop.com.br/curios.php
Jorge Figueiredo
((> TD - TT3 vol 23 Berlin 1973 <))
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From:
Dennis Nigbur
Date: Thu Feb 27, 2003 12:07
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: 'Mota Atma' Inspiration Source?
Marion, I think you're dead on! It would seem very much in line with
TD's traditional pacifist agenda (good to see some political relevance
injected into the group again, if for a sorry geopolitical reason) and their
love for cryptic album titles.
I haven't read it, but I certainly must now...
Dennis
On 27 Feb 2003 at 10:35, Marion Horrod wrote:
> Well I reckon it's a tribute to 'Atom Heart Mother'. With a slight nod
> to the possibility of impending war.
>
> (Anybody read Heinlein's 'The day after tomorrow'?)
>
> LnH
>
> Marion
>
> 'The glass is neither half full or half empty. It's twice the size it
> needs to be ...' S. Blakemore
From:
'Alistair Hull '
Date: Thu Feb 27, 2003 6:51
pm
Subject: My TD Astoria Photos now online....
Hi All,
Finally got around to putting up my photos on the web from the
Astoria Gig.
I warn you they are unedited so all the blurred and out of focus pics
are in there too, but I'm not unhappy overall..
They're at http://alistairs.com/html/astoria.html
Enjoy.
Cheers, Alistair
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From:
'Pergamon'
Date: Thu Feb 27, 2003 7:06
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Kraftwerk - Klaus Schulze
Are they going to trash this one again and start all
over.........=O)...........If it is true, then it is very great
news...........
Jan
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Mat Mckenzie'
To:
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 5:20 PM
Subject: RE: [tadream] Kraftwerk - Klaus Schulze
> A fantastic weblink for KW thanks Jorge,
>
> Great news.......
>
> '
> 25/02/2003
>
> New Kraftwerk album is 99% completed
> At recently interview (24/01/2003) to 'Triple J',
> radio station from Sydney, the reporter Richard Kingsmill
> asked to Ralf Hutter about the Kraftwerk new album, and
> how much it is completed. Ralf said that they are working
> on different tracks, and the new album is 99% completed.
> He talked too about the new stage setup, and how they feel
> more moveable compared to past tours.'
>
>
> Mat
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jorge Figueiredo [mailto:jorgefig@e...]
> Sent: 27 February 2003 14:24
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [tadream] Kraftwerk - Klaus Schulze
>
>
> I read the other day a curious information regarding the connection
> between Kraftwerk and Schulze:
>
> In 2000, the german producer Integral Films realized a TV movie called
> 'Klassentreffen - Mordfall unter Freunden (Class Reunion - Murder Affair
> Among Friends)', and this film counts with the appearance of a band (The
> Wondering Stars - Sputnik Roadhouse) playing the song 'Those Were the
> Days' during about 3 minutes. This band was composed by the following
> members: Klaus Schulze (organ), F. J. Krueger (guitar), Marian Gold
> (vocals), Toni Nissl (drums) and a certain 'Fred Schnitzel' playing
> bass. 'Fred' is also known by the name of 'Florian Schneider' when he
> plays in another group called Kraftwerk. The film is directed by
> Diethard Kuester, screenplay by Jochen Brunow, and the main cast is:
> Natalia Woerner, Leslie Malton, Christoph M. Ohrt and Esther Schweins.
>
> (Informations by courtesy of Jan Reetze - Hamburg - Germany)
>
> More info and video in http://kraftwerk.technopop.com.br/curios.php
>
>
> Jorge Figueiredo
>
> ((> TD - TT3 vol 23 Berlin 1973 <))
>
>
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>
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>
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>
From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Thu Feb 27, 2003 7:37
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] My TD Astoria Photos now online....
I really appreciate all the nice pics you guys have posted. Almost makes me
feel like I was there.
BTW: Is that last pic the Tardis parking lot at the Astoria?
From:
'Michael Jean'
Date: Thu Feb 27, 2003 7:58
pm
Subject: Deadline approaching
http://musiccdsettlement.com/english/default.htm
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From:
'fozziebear'
Date: Thu Feb 27, 2003 8:32
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Deadline approaching
Could they make the print any smaller on that site? Gotta get out the
microscope.
David
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Jean
To:
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 7:58 PM
Subject: [tadream] Deadline approaching
> http://musiccdsettlement.com/english/default.htm
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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>
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From:
hghlndr@t...
Date: Thu Feb 27, 2003 7:34
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Schulze CW II
Hi Armin,
I have CWI and I enjoy most of it. I am not wild about the stuff he did
with some group(I forget their name). But all of the rest of it is really good.
You can contact me offlist if you have any other questions(trades or see if I
can find an original).
THE HIGHLANDER aka Robert
hghlndr@t...
>
> Hi,
>
> no, don't know of any, but since I have CWII and really
> love it, maybe I should post one? If I find some time.
>
> Now, does anybody have CWI ? I missed that one (damn shame)
>
> armin
>
>
From:
'dreamsector '
Date: Thu Feb 27, 2003 9:16
pm
Subject: OT Soft Recommendation
The other week during our semi-annual alien seagull discussion I
mentioned a (what I thought) is a decent pro-quality softsynth: VAZ+. I
think this is a good choice especially for someone who is starting out
because
a) it sounds good
b) stand-alone
c) very cool sequencer
d) also arpeggiator and efx
e) also works as vsti and dxi
f) fairly inexpensive - about $55 US download
It seemed that the vaz+ was no longer available, but I just got
notification that it is now up to version 2. The new version adds
additional filter types, etc.
Here is the link in case someone is interested: http://www.software-
technology.com/
Cheers!
signed
The Synth Hog
From:
ampmusic
Date: Thu Feb 27, 2003 9:31
pm
Subject: re; Schulze
> Message: 14
> Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 09:15:07 -0500
> From: 'Michael Jean'
> Subject: Schulze CW II
>
> I know this isn't a Schulze list, but he seems to have come up a lot
> this week.
>
> I never ordered Contemporary Works II, and haven;t seen any reviews of
>
> it. Has anyone done a review, or have a website that discusses it?
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Michael A. Jean
As ever, the answers you seek to all album review questions can be found
on the EMIX reviews page at
http://www.ampmusic.demon.co.uk/emixcds.html
There's a review of Klaus Schulze's 'Contemporary Works 2' near the top
of the page :-)
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
From:
Falcon
Date: Thu Feb 27, 2003 9:43
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Sequenced Noise
At 08:43 PM 2/23/2003, you wrote:
>Just watched the demo on 3dMark 03 the PC graphics benchmarking software
>from Future Mark.
>
>At the end during the credits there is some kickass synth music by a
>group who call themselves 'Sequenced Noise'.
>
>
>I was wondering if there is anyone on the list who knows anything about
>them and if they have done anything else.
Hey,
please let us know, what system do you have and what was your score ? ;-)
Ramon
From:
Marion Horrod
Date: Thu Feb 27, 2003 10:10
pm
Subject: My TD Astoria Photos now online....
Hey Alistair, nice piccies.
Did Iris _really_ spend the whole evening with her back to you, or was that
just the angle you thought she looked best from?
LnH
Marion
'The glass is neither half full or half empty. It's twice the size it needs
to be ...' S. Blakemore
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From:
'Tony Lomax '
Date: Thu Feb 27, 2003 10:47
pm
Subject: Heartbreakers on TV
FYI:
For English viewers 'Heartbreakers' (1984) is being shown on Channel
5 Saturday 1st March 12:50am. (A good run of TD films so far this
year what with The Keep, Risky Business and Shy People being aired)
Tony
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From:
'Robert Asmus'
Date: Thu Feb 27, 2003 10:53
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Heartbreakers on TV
But what channel 5 is it? I mean where in the world is it playing?
Robert
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Lomax [mailto:max.lo@n...]
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 5:48 PM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] Heartbreakers on TV
FYI:
For English viewers 'Heartbreakers' (1984) is being shown on Channel
5 Saturday 1st March 12:50am. (A good run of TD films so far this
year what with The Keep, Risky Business and Shy People being aired)
Tony
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From:
'Tony Lomax '
Date: Thu Feb 27, 2003 10:59
pm
Subject: Re: Heartbreakers on TV
Oh, It's only in the UK. It's one of our 5 terrestrial channels and
it's called 'Channel 5'.
Maybe through satelite you can get it in Europe, but I'm not too sure
about that?
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Robert Asmus' wrote:
> But what channel 5 is it? I mean where in the world is it playing?
>
>
> Robert
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Lomax [mailto:max.lo@n...]
> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 5:48 PM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [tadream] Heartbreakers on TV
>
> FYI:
>
> For English viewers 'Heartbreakers' (1984) is being shown on
Channel
> 5 Saturday 1st March 12:50am. (A good run of TD films so far this
> year what with The Keep, Risky Business and Shy People being
aired)
>
> Tony
>
>
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From:
'Alistair Hull '
Date: Thu Feb 27, 2003 11:15
pm
Subject: Re: My TD Astoria Photos now online....
Marion Said 'Did Iris _really_ spend the whole evening with her back
to you, or was that just the angle you thought she looked best from?'
Both actually, she spent an inordinate amount of time facing away
from the audience, and since the front view wasn't available I just
had to make do with what I could get...LOL
From:
'Colin Jouxson '
Date: Fri Feb 28, 2003 12:04
am
Subject: Green Desert
Edgars Voluptous Guitar,im damp in them exited Regions'
UNTOUCHABLE.
From:
'John Marchington'
Date: Fri Feb 28, 2003 3:51
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Schulze CW II
You can get CWI from Archie Patterson at Eurock. I got both my CWI and CWII
sets from him.
His e-mail address is apatters@e...
BTW the ten discs in the set plus booklet come in a lovely wooden box. with
brass hinges and catch. Very stylish presentation.
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Armin Theissen'
To:
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 4:20 AM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Schulze CW II
>
> Hi,
>
> no, don't know of any, but since I have CWII and really
> love it, maybe I should post one? If I find some time.
>
> Now, does anybody have CWI ? I missed that one (damn shame)
>
> armin
>
>
> Michael Jean wrote:
>
> > I know this isn't a Schulze list, but he seems to have come up a lot
> > this week.
> >
> > I never ordered Contemporary Works II, and haven;t seen any reviews of
> > it. Has anyone done a review, or have a website that discusses it?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> > Michael A. Jean
> > The Brookings Institution
> > 1775 Massachusetts Avenue, N.W.
> > Washington, DC 20036-2188
> >
> > TEL: (202)-797-6214
> > FAX: (202)-797-2479
> > EMAIL: mjean@b...
> > http://www.brookings.edu
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
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> >
> > Tangerine Tree info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/tree
> >
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From:
'creative_operator '
Date: Fri Feb 28, 2003 12:11
am
Subject: Photos (Inferno) & (SBE)
Please checkout the following site :
http://inet-tv.net/inet/tadream/
From:
'stevewoollam '
Date: Thu Feb 27, 2003 9:56
pm
Subject: Tangerine Tree
Hi everybody,
I have just signed up to the group and would like to hear
from someone in England who can help me start collecting
the Tangerine Tree CDR's.
I live in Wolverhampton in the West Midlands, and have
been a fan of Tangerine Dream for 30 years.
Hoping to hear from someone soon.
I do have a CD Burner.
Best Regards,
Steve woollam.
From:
tadreaming@c...
Date: Fri Feb 28, 2003 7:39
am
Subject: 5 CD's Of Conrad Schnitzler on eBay
Hello,
Saw on eBay the 5 CD's on Art Gallery records the Cassette Concerts. The
CD's are still sealed and are going for a Buy It Now price of $100, they are
out of print. I have these and really like them, someone may be intrested
here for these.
Martyn
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From:
'colin anderson'
Date: Fri Feb 28, 2003 9:38
am
Subject: Re: Kraftwerk concert in Australia
Errrr....what concert in Australia?
Message: 18
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 14:30:45 -0000
From: 'Mat Mckenzie'
Subject: KRAFTWERK GOSSIP
Sorry 2b off topic but sure there are TD fans out there that like Kraftwerk too
- so.........
'A freind of a friend spoke to Hütter an Schneider at one of their concerts in
Australia recently. Ralf says they have one new single ready and are working on
a 'greatest Hits' DVD.
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From:
tony.vandergaag@p...
Date: Fri Feb 28, 2003 9:54
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Digest Number 1709
Hi,
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 18:23:35 -0500
> From:
> Subject: Kraftwerk - Klaus Schulze
>
> Hello All,
>
> I have just received, in a trade, a copy of a boot? entitled 'Kraftwerk
> Concert Classics'.
It was a bootleg once, released thru an italian company in their
'super golden radioshows' series during the early 90's. later it
was made more or less 'official' but not by release thru their
own record company emi but by a one-off deal with some unknown us-label
so that's the one you are holding now.
Any idea what this is, and if I can get the artwork for
> it??
>
> I also have a copy of something called 'Kraftwerk Computersinfonien'
Rare show from '97 i believe or was it '98 ?, (they did only 4 or 5 shows that
year) recorded at ZKM in Karlsruhe/Germany. ZKM = Zentrum Kultur Musik was
opened in one of those years mentioned above and Kraftwerk was asked to do a
show 'in celebration of'....
and a
> Klaus Schulze CD I cannot identify at all.
than it also quite diffy to give you any answer at all
>
> Anyone willing to help with artwork and/or identification???
>
> Thanks
I have both Kraftwerk cd versions, and i also have the recording from ZKM
only mine has different title because i've got a version from a different
source and bootlabel.
From:
'dreamsector '
Date: Fri Feb 28, 2003 12:37
pm
Subject: dissecting the alien seagull
Well, I'm a happy camper as concerns the quest for this alien seagull
sound. :-)
I decided to try Vaz2010 this time. Just got the 1.11 update with the
new filter algorithms and the a.s. seemed like it would be a fun way
of putting it through its paces.
Doing the old listen, analyze, and tweak... the specific occurrence I
was aiming for was the one that 'calls out' twice at about minute 3
of Monolight. That is the first place I ever heard it and it has
always been the holy grail of alien seagulls for me.
Thanks to Eric and others for sharing their thoughts on the matter.
Eric's recipe seems to have been the best starting point. On the 2010
what seemed to do the trick was a combination of both highpass and
lowpass filters with a little touch of ring mod; also tuning the
resonance and cutoffs and sustain 'just' right. The oscillators were
not tuned a fifth apart, but rather an octave and a third.
The other important thing is finding just the right note.
It seems that the sound on Monolight is articulated by striking the
main note and then striking the same note three octaves down lightly
and quickly with portamento on.
I've got a test mp3 as well as the vaz patch file that I can put in
the Files section if anyone is interested or cares to compare notes.
Whether I'm close or not (though I think I am) this made me
realize... why on earth would E.F. need to purchase a sampling cd for
this sound? From Sonic Images with whom he is (apparently) not on
speaking terms no less. I'm sure he can probably do this sorta thing
in his sleep!!!
So... this was a fun and educational experiment!
:-)
w
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From:
Olav Neander
Date: Fri Feb 28, 2003 1:18
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] dissecting the alien seagull
dreamsector schrieb:
>Well, I'm a happy camper as concerns the quest for this alien seagull
>sound. :-)
>
>I decided to try Vaz2010 this time. Just got the 1.11 update with the
>new filter algorithms and the a.s. seemed like it would be a fun way
>of putting it through its paces.
>
Sounds great... yes, I'm very interested in your VAZ patch - I also made
some tries on my VAZ 2010, so it might be interesting to compare. Dis
you use some delay effects?
Olav
Electronic Dreamscapes from Norway - http://www.mp3.com/autopoiesis -
ICQ# 9622825
From:
quarlie@a...
Date: Fri Feb 28, 2003 4:16
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Kraftwerk concert in Australia
colin_anderson@i... wrote:
> Errrr....what concert in Australia?
Well, according to (the incredibly inconvenient to use) kraftwerk.com, they
played Gold Coast on January 19, Sydney on the 25th, Melbourne on the 27th,
Adelaide on the 31st, and Perth on February 2.
--Daniel
NP: Project Pitchfork - View from a Throne
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From:
'Bill Fox'
Date: Fri Feb 28, 2003 4:40
pm
Subject: EMUSIC Playlist #310 for February 27, 2003
[ Best viewed using a fixed spacing font. ]
EMUSIC is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday
at 11:00 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton,
PA and Phillipsburg, NJ.
Show #310 February 27, 2003.
RECAP:
On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on Orbital Decay, a spacemusic
duo in the Quakertown area who recently played at the Soundscapes Concert
Series on February 22. The Featured CD at midnight was 'Live on WXPN.'
The Vinyl Starter was from the LP 'Ricochet' by Tangerine Dream on Virgin
Records.
I also played the music of vidnaObmana who will play at the next Soundscapes in
Bethlehem, Pennsylvania on April 19. I also played the music of Vir Unis and
James Johnson who will be at the next Gathering in Philadelphia on April 12.
Orbital Decay http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic/playlists/2003/focus03.html#feb
Soundscapes Concert Series http://soundscapes.us
Gatherings Concert Series http://thegatherings.org
PLAYLIST:
ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label)
======================= ======================== ==============================
11:00 pm
Tangerine Dream Part One Ricochet (Virgin)
Vir Unis and Stroboscopic Thermal Transfer (Binary)
Saul Stokes
vidnaObmana Flesh Reaper Tremor (Relapse)
James Johnson and A Slow Return Forgotten PLaces (Zero Music
Robert Scott Thompson and Aucourant Records)
Xeroid Entity Third Moon of Saturn Xeroid Entity (Xeroid Records)
Mr. Soon Quartzite Places in Arizona
(Psychosomatic)
Artemiy Artemiev and Preliminary Steps Equilibrium (Electroshock)
Karda Estrada
12:00 am
Orbital Decay August 12, 2001 Live on WXPN (none)
1:00 am
* = exerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)
NEXT SHOW:
On the next EMUSIC, I'll start a month-long focus on Spacecraft. The Featured
CD at Midnight will be 'Spacecraft' on the Lektronic Soundscapes label.
The vinyl show starter will be from the LP 'Forever Blowing Bubbles' by
Clearlight on Virgin Records.
I will also play the music of vidnaObmana, Vir Unis, and James Johnson who will
be appearing at local concerts in April.
Bill
===============================================================================
Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at
11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and
Phillipsburg. http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic All times are GMT-5:00
Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN
To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, go to
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emusic-wdiy and click on [Join This Group!]
Host of the AM/FM Show on WMUH Allentown 91.7 FM every other Saturday at 6 am.
Host of Afterglow on WMUH every Thursday morning from 8:00 to 9:30.
http://soundscapes.us/~bill/amfm http://soundscapes.us/~bill/afterglow
Listen on-line to WMUH at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click REAL AUDIO
Personal site: http://soundscapes.us/~bill All times are GMT-5:00
SOUNDSCAPES Concert Series: http://soundscapes.us
From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Fri Feb 28, 2003 8:26
pm
Subject: Chris Franke track question
At the Sonic Images web page there's some high quality mp3 samples of
different types of music Chris can do. There's 33 tracks totalling around
50 minutes. Most of them seem to be edits from soundtracks and other
released music. There's one track in particular (number 2 in the list) that
I really like, but it's obviously edited from a longer track. I'd love to
get the full version of this if it exists. Does anyone know where this
track comes from (if it is indeed a released track)? (web link follows).
http://sonicimages.com/webdata/cf/MusicByCF/snd/SynthPop-12v2.mp3
James
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From:
'Jim Moore'
Date: Fri Feb 28, 2003 9:09
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Chris Franke track question
James,
I don't think that is part of any existing released music, at least none
that I have (though I don't have the Calling -- *hint*! *hint*!). It is
pretty good, though! I'm supposed to go to L.A. next month; maybe I should
pop into Franke's studio and bug him about a new studio album until he
acquiesces...
- jim
-----Original Message-----
From: Owens, James [mailto:james.owens@m...]
At the Sonic Images web page there's some high quality mp3 samples of
different types of music Chris can do. There's 33 tracks totalling around
50 minutes. Most of them seem to be edits from soundtracks and other
released music. There's one track in particular (number 2 in the list) that
I really like, but it's obviously edited from a longer track. I'd love to
get the full version of this if it exists. Does anyone know where this
track comes from (if it is indeed a released track)? (web link follows).
http://sonicimages.com/webdata/cf/MusicByCF/snd/SynthPop-12v2.mp3
From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Fri Feb 28, 2003 9:40
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Chris Franke track question
Jim wrote:
> maybe I should
> pop into Franke's studio and bug him about a new studio album until he
> acquiesces...
Please do! I'm sure he's got plenty of material!
> (though I don't have the Calling -- *hint*!
> *hint*!)
Me either, sorry. I've been on the lookout to see if it shows up in the
local used CD shop.
James
From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Fri Feb 28, 2003 9:52
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Chris Franke track question
BTW: there's sound samples for 'The Calling' at Amazon.de
More on the orchestral side than the 'synth-pop' side.
I don't think this is the source of the track in question.
James
From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Fri Feb 28, 2003 10:41
pm
Subject: OT question
I'm trying to recall the name of a group that was spotlighted on Echoes a
while back.
The group (I think it's a duo) is from London. The head-man's dad was a
harpsichord maker. They used a lot of samples from old jazz 78 RPM records.
The music was electronic with bits of harpsichord and jazz samples. The one
guy did a lot of 'musique concrete' for his percussion sounds, which were
then looped to get the rythms they wanted.
I think they also record under two different group names, depending on the
style of the album.
Any ideas?
From:
Date: Sat Mar 1, 2003 12:50
pm
Subject: Computer help needed
Hello All,
I am forwarding an e-mail from another list. I know we have some really smart
'computer nerds' on this list that can help,
Thanks
In God's Love
Neal
'You can't take it with you -
but you CAN send it on ahead - Give.'
Pastor Tom Mullins
******************************************
----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 1:32 AM
Subject: [Hibernaculum] Recovery Help Needed!!!
> Ai-e-e-e-e-e!!! I accidently deleted a slew of wav files I'd
> been working on before I'd burned them to disc (needed harddrive
> space and my 6 yr old was talking to me at the same time...duh)..
> I know they're not really gone, just the extensions have been
> changed so they can be written over...
> Who knows of a good utility that will recover my files? Freeware,
> please!
> Thanks,
> Randy
> (wow, no posts for awhile! Pretty quiet here these days...Mike needs
> to release an album so we have something to talk about...)
>
>
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From:
David Dunham
Date: Sat Mar 1, 2003 2:41
pm
Subject: Help with TT3 Diskcovers printing
Hi to all. Can anyone contact me off list with help
printing TT3 disks covers? I have Fellowers Neato
Mediaface 4. The image is smaller than the paper. The
other covers thru Photoshop come out alright. Thanks Dave
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From:
Robert Grabowsky
Date: Sat Mar 1, 2003 3:36
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Help with TT3 Diskcovers printing
As a user of Neato I would have to say that MediaFace 4 SUCKS!!!!! Go get
one of the free downloads of the earlier version of the program.
There should be a button that will strech the picture after you place it on
the template. It is usually called 'SIZE TO FIT'
THE HIGHLANDER
At 06:41 AM 3/1/03 -0800, you wrote:
>Hi to all. Can anyone contact me off list with help
>printing TT3 disks covers? I have Fellowers Neato
>Mediaface 4. The image is smaller than the paper. The
>other covers thru Photoshop come out alright. Thanks Dave
>
From:
René Brenner
Date: Sat Mar 1, 2003 4:05
pm
Subject: Re: Mota Atma...of course!
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak
wrote:
> At 12:43 26.02.03, you wrote:
> >...and the cover art distributed on the postcard looked like a stylised
> >atom all along!
> >
> >So, when is it coming out then?
> >
> >Dennis
> >
>
> Dear all,
>
> approx. 1 month from now.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Martin Kasprzak
What about Dream Mixes 4?
Rene
From:
'Bill Fox'
Date: Sat Mar 1, 2003 4:04
pm
Subject: The AM/FM Show Playlist for March 1, 2003
[ Best viewed using a fixed spacing font. ]
The Saturday AM/FM Show is hosted every other week by Bill Fox who plays
electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other
genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and
on the internet. Send me comments if you love or hate what I played. I also
host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am.
I played the music of vidnaObmana who will perform at the next Soundscapes
Concert Series on April 19, at Bethlehem's IceHouse on Sand Island.
vidnaObmana http://www.vidnaobmana.be
Soundscapes Concert Series http://soundscapes.us
Show #18 March 1, 2003.
PLAYLIST:
Phase I/Space:
ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label)
======================= ======================== ==============================
VA [vidnaObmana] In Memory of Morton Electroacoustic Musiv Vol. 7
Feldman (Electroshock)
xeroid entity Second Moon of Saturn xeroid entity (xeroid records)
Jurgen Haible Beryll on Copprt Dark November (none)
Andy Pickford and Laternentrager Parts 1+2 Ramayana (Neu Harmony)
Paul Nagle
Phase II/Eclectic:
ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label)
======================= ======================== ==============================
Amethysium Shadow to Light Aphelion (Neurodisc)
Michael Hewett The Ever-Widening Being In Dreaming (Dharma
Circle Moon)
Kitaro Theme from Silk Road Best of Silk Road (Domo)
Michael Dulin The Way Home The One I Waited For (Equity
Digital)
Agatsuma Beams Beams (Domo)
Phase III/Progressive Rock:
ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label)
======================= ======================== ==============================
Big Block Dodge SOL Manifold Destiny (Groosian)
Derek Sherinian Mata Hari Inertia (InsideOut)
Thirteen of Everything Sleepdance Demo 2002 (none)
Daemonia Halloween Live or Dead (Deep Red)
Daemonia Tubular Bells Live or Dead (Deep Red)
Pinnacle Synchronicity II 2003 Demo (none)
Shaun Guerin Crazy By the Dark of Light
(Clearlight)
* = exerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)
I return to the AM/FM Show in two weeks on March 15.
Bill
===============================================================================
Host of the AM/FM Show on WMUH Allentown 91.7 FM every other Saturday at 6 am.
Host of Afterglow on WMUH every Thursday morning from 8:00 to 9:30.
http://soundscapes.us/~bill/amfm http://soundscapes.us/~bill/afterglow
Listen on-line to WMUH at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click REAL AUDIO
Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at
11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and
Phillipsburg. http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic All times are GMT-5:00
Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN
To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, go to
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emusic-wdiy and click on [Join This Group!]
Personal site: http://soundscapes.us/~bill All times are GMT-5:00
SOUNDSCAPES Concert Series: http://soundscapes.us
From:
Morgan Feldon
Date: Sun Mar 2, 2003 5:56
am
Subject: Re: Help with TT3 Diskcovers printing
>From: David Dunham
>Date: Sat Mar 1, 2003 8:41 am
>Subject: Help with TT3 Diskcovers printing
>Hi to all. Can anyone contact me off list with help
>printing TT3 disks covers? I have Fellowers Neato
>Mediaface 4. The image is smaller than the paper. The
>other covers thru Photoshop come out alright. Thanks Dave
I'd like to dispel this myth.
The cover art is the right dimensions at 300dpi. Unfortunately, most of
these programs do not expect us to be using 'full-bleed' artwork, so it
automatically scales the image down without asking us.
Try to find a setting to enlarge the image to 'normal size'.
I have ended up making a template myself in Photoshop and loading the
artwork into PS to print.
If there is a comment to be made about the covers, it's that the tray cards
could be 1/4 taller because they do not have enough bleed IMO.
-Morgan
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From:
Antonio Nunes
Date: Sun Mar 2, 2003 10:13
pm
Subject: Artwork of DWT I prerelease
Hello all,
I've received, in a trade, a copy of Dreamwatchers' Tales 1 prerelease
CDR, and I'm looking for the artwork. If anyone can help, please contact
me offlist. I've already tried to find it on the web, but I could only
find DWT II and III, not the first one.
Thanks in advance.
Antonio
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From:
'John Marchington'
Date: Mon Mar 3, 2003 2:48
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Artwork of DWT I prerelease
Hi Antonio,
I have all the DWT1 artwork which I'd be happy to send you. Unfortunately, I
haven't been able to unravel your e-mail address.
Get back to me off-list if you're interested.
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Antonio Nunes'
To: 'tadream'
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 11:13 AM
Subject: [tadream] Artwork of DWT I prerelease
> Hello all,
>
> I've received, in a trade, a copy of Dreamwatchers' Tales 1 prerelease
> CDR, and I'm looking for the artwork. If anyone can help, please contact
> me offlist. I've already tried to find it on the web, but I could only
> find DWT II and III, not the first one.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Antonio
>
>
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>
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> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
From:
tony.vandergaag@p...
Date: Mon Mar 3, 2003 10:06
am
Subject: Re:TD-Russia ??
Hi all,
few weeks/months back i remember someone posting a message that TD
would perform on this festival.
this message below is from dutch alpha-centauri news-letter :
> *** Electronic Music Festival by Elektroshock, St Petersburg (Russia)
> cancelled !
>
> The planned EM festival in St Petersburg for this summer (originally planned
> summer 2002) has been cancelled.
> Artemiy Artemiev wrote to us '...unfortunately we have rather sad news. We
> had various meetings but all our desperate attempts to persuade financial
> organizations to give us money for the Festival failed. We have tried to
> arrange for another festival formula but we were afraid to ruin the
> conception of the concert program prepared for the event. So we had to decide
> to cancel the festival...'
so.... no go (at all)
tony/rotterdam
From:
Armin Theissen
Date: Mon Mar 3, 2003 11:00
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Heartbreakers on TV
As with many movies TD did a sountrack for, this is
absolutely not worth watching...
armin
Tony Lomax wrote:
> FYI:
>
> For English viewers 'Heartbreakers' (1984) is being shown on Channel
> 5 Saturday 1st March 12:50am. (A good run of TD films so far this
> year what with The Keep, Risky Business and Shy People being aired)
>
> Tony
>
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From:
Marko Marin
Date: Mon Mar 3, 2003 11:21
am
Subject: [tadream] Armageddon score
Great score! A bit lighter than Zimmer's own style,
but MV-influences are there. The main theme is
wonderful (Launch is especially thrilling as it plays
the theme in full power). The secondary theme is also
good, but it's onöu played only twice. If you like
Zimmer, Powell, etc. I recommend this at once. It
might not be too classy but it's entertaining and I
think that's the whole point.
Regards,
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From:
Marko Marin
Date: Mon Mar 3, 2003 11:26
am
Subject: [tadream] 24 & Sean Callery's music
Has anyone watched the wonderful series called 24
(starring Kiefer Sutherland and others)? As a fan of
the series and electronic music, I think it's a shame
that Sean Callery's pulsating and rythmic score hasn't
been released.
The main theme alone is great and very urban, but
there is also one song that got my attention. In the
episode where Jack confronts a man called Ted Cofell,
that song is played several times and every time it
grows thicker and faster.
Regards,
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From:
'Bill Fox'
Date: Sat Mar 1, 2003 9:51
pm
Subject: Soundscapes Concert Series with vidnaObmana
The Soundscapes Concert Series
proudly presents
vidnaObmana
in an all ages concert of space music
at the City of Bethlehem's IceHouse on Sand Island
56 River Street West
Bethlehem, Pennsylvania
Saturday, April 19, 2003
Concert at 8:00 pm, doors open at 7:30 pm
FREE Buffet Dinner by Chef Jeff
Tickets: $17 in advance and $20 at the door.
Soundscapes #4 is coproduced by WDS Productions and
Wooden Shoe Music.
For the fourth installment of the Soundscapes Concert Series, vidnaObmana will
perform a concert at the City of Bethlehem's IceHouse on Sand Island. Located
in historic Bethlehem on the north bank of the Lehigh River, the IceHouse is a
perfect venue for a concert of spacemusic. This concert will be on Saturday,
April 19, 2003, starting at 8:00 pm. The doors will open at 7:30 pm and Chef
Jeff will cater a free buffet dinner. Tickets are $17 in advance and $20 at the
door. Advance ticket availability is on-line at http://electro-music.com at
coming soon to local outlets. NOTE: There are no discounts on advance tickets.
Tickets at the door will be discounted by $3 for those who show their WDIY or
WMUH membership cards or their full-time student ID.
INFORMATION:
http://soundscapes.us
CONTACT:
Bill Fox
billfox@f...
610-746-9615
VIDNAOBMANA:
Ambient musician vidnaObmana is one of spacemusic's brightest stars. Using
synthesizers, audio processors, and a vast array of exotic instruments, Belgian
electronic musician vidnaObmana creates a complex, layered musical journey
through rhythms, timbres, loops, and sonic atmospheres. The name vidnaObmana
means 'optical illusion' in Servo-Croation, a term he picked up while
vacationing in Croatia during his childhood. He chose this phrase as his
musical persona to illustrate how his music correlates sonically with the
surreal soundscapes he creates. vidnaObmana is a prolific composer whose
diverse body of work ranges from post-industrial through gently atmospheric, to
tribal ambient and more. His music slowly shifts through electronic audio
imagery, creating extremely personal works of atmospheric delight.
Throughout his career, vidnaObmana has explored the abrasive side of electronic
composition, using freeform soundscapes, international music traditions, and
post-classical experimentations. His music has been released widely by many
independent labels worldwide, including: Release/Relapse, Amplexus, Extreme,
Hypnos, Mirage, Multimood, Projekt and others. A significant portion of
vidnaObmana's work has been realized in collaboration with some of the world's
most interesting musicians such as Alio Die, Jeff Pearce, Steve Roach, Djen
Ajakan Shean, Asmus Tietchens, and Brannan Lane.
FLIER:
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because it is 'too large.' It is available by request. You are encouraged to
take an active role in the health of the electronic music scene by printing,
displaying, and distributing this flier. Forwarding of this email message
helps, too!
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From:
'Jeffrey Au-Yeung'
Date: Tue Mar 4, 2003 12:16
pm
Subject: Offer for trade: Koyaanisqatsi DVD
I have 2 copies of the said Region 3 DVD available for swap, if somebody is
interested.
Jeffrey
Email: coldwatercanyon@h...
From:
'Bill Fox'
Date: Tue Mar 4, 2003 1:52
pm
Subject: EMUSIC Monly Top 20 Report for February, 2003
WDIY 88.1 FM 'EMUSIC' Top 20 for February, 2003.
Shows #307 to #310; 6-February-2003 to 27-February-2003
Reported in non-ranked order.
Compiled by Bill Fox, billfox@f...
CONTACT:
billfox@f...
http://wdiyfm.org/programs/emusic
ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL
============================
Alpha Wave Movement - A Distant Signal - HRR
Artemiy Artemiev and Karda Estrada - Equilibrium - Electroshock
James Johnson and Robert Scott Thompson - Forgotten PLaces - Zero Music and
Aucourant Records
Jurgen Haible - Dark November - none
Mikronesia - Mikronesia - none
Orbital Decay - Live in Concert - none
Orbital Decay - Live on EMUSIC - none
Orbital Decay - Live on WXPN - none
Orbital Decay - Orbital Decay - none
Orbital Decay - Re-Entry - none
Orbital Decay - The Key of Sea - none
Otarion - Creator - Neu Harmony
Paul Ellis - Into the Liquid Unknown - Binary
Robert Carty - Tonalities - Deep Sky Music
Skin Mechanix - The Secret Life of Angels of Known Space - InfectionMusic
Under the Dome - Bellerophon - Neu Harmony
Various Artists - A Slight Touch of Grace - Relapse
vidnaObmana - Spore - Relapse
vidnaObmana - Tremor - Relapse
Vir Unis and Saul Stokes - Thermal Transfer - Binary
Bill
===============================================================================
Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at
11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and
Phillipsburg. http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic All times are GMT-5:00
Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN
To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, go to
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emusic-wdiy and click on [Join This Group!]
Host of the AM/FM Show on WMUH Allentown 91.7 FM every other Saturday at 6 am.
Host of Afterglow on WMUH every Thursday morning from 8:00 to 9:30.
http://soundscapes.us/~bill/amfm http://soundscapes.us/~bill/afterglow
Listen on-line to WMUH at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click REAL AUDIO
Personal site: http://soundscapes.us/~bill All times are GMT-5:00
SOUNDSCAPES Concert Series: http://soundscapes.us
From:
Jonathan Holt
Date: Tue Mar 4, 2003 3:22
pm
Subject: TD Webcam URGENT!!!
If you can all rush to the webcam link on the
multi-media page at the bands website, I think I saw a
branch move!... Yes, yes, I did. It was definately in
a different position than on the previous image... not
sure how, maybe a bomb went off, maybe spies from Jean
Michel Jarre's camp are hiding in the trees, disguised
as squirrels and wearing cloaking devices like in
Predator, or it could have been a bit of a light
breeze!
Yes, I think we can all agree that the webcam is
absolutely worth it's weight in gold!
Who in the right minds would want to look into the TD
studio when there is a whole garden out there!!!?
Cheers!
______________________________________________________________________
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From:
'billythefish01 '
Date: Tue Mar 4, 2003 4:33
pm
Subject: Re: TD Webcam URGENT!!!
Someone should go out there and plant a Tangerine Tree which we
could all then watch grow.
Morgan, you know where to get one, right?
;-)
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Holt
wrote:
> If you can all rush to the webcam link on the
> multi-media page at the bands website, I think I saw a
> branch move!... Yes, yes, I did. It was definately in
> a different position than on the previous image... not
> sure how, maybe a bomb went off, maybe spies from Jean
> Michel Jarre's camp are hiding in the trees, disguised
> as squirrels and wearing cloaking devices like in
> Predator, or it could have been a bit of a light
> breeze!
> Yes, I think we can all agree that the webcam is
> absolutely worth it's weight in gold!
> Who in the right minds would want to look into the TD
> studio when there is a whole garden out there!!!?
>
> Cheers!
>
>
_____________________________________________________________________
_
> Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
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From:
'Robert Asmus'
Date: Tue Mar 4, 2003 6:12
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Re: TD Webcam URGENT!!!
ROTFLMAO
-----Original Message-----
From: billythefish01
[mailto:mudspanker@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 11:34 AM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] Re: TD Webcam URGENT!!!
Someone should go out there and plant a Tangerine Tree which we
could all then watch grow.
Morgan, you know where to get one, right?
;-)
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Holt
wrote:
> If you can all rush to the webcam link on the
> multi-media page at the bands website, I think I saw a
> branch move!... Yes, yes, I did. It was definately in
> a different position than on the previous image... not
> sure how, maybe a bomb went off, maybe spies from Jean
> Michel Jarre's camp are hiding in the trees, disguised
> as squirrels and wearing cloaking devices like in
> Predator, or it could have been a bit of a light
> breeze!
> Yes, I think we can all agree that the webcam is
> absolutely worth it's weight in gold!
> Who in the right minds would want to look into the TD
> studio when there is a whole garden out there!!!?
>
> Cheers!
>
>
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From:
René Brenner
Date: Tue Mar 4, 2003 6:21
pm
Subject: OT: Official Rerelease of JMJ Les Granges brulées
One of the very old Soundtracks from Jarre is finally re-issued on the
official Francis dreyfus music label for a very decent price
(amazon.fr) and other places. No more need to get your hands on
counterfeits.
I would hope TD will also try to re-issue a few of their older
soundtrack material (The man inside etc.).
René
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From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Tue Mar 4, 2003 8:03
pm
Subject: OT: Funniest LP list I've ever read
All you vinyl lovers out there: you've GOT to read this very interesting
(and hillarious) list of LPs.
http://www.kingkonggirio.com/vinyl.htm
James
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From:
rbrown4856@a...
Date: Tue Mar 4, 2003 10:27
pm
Subject: Astoria CD Single
Hi All!
Just received my copy of the Special Release single today.After listening
a couple of times I'll have to say I like the two remixes from Dream Mixes 4.
I can't help it but to me I believe the track Gates of Saturn from Mota
Atma has to be a leftover from Mars Polaris.It just sounds too much like
something from that CD.
Rick
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From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Tue Mar 4, 2003 10:44
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Astoria CD Single
Maybe it was part of the planned second disc of Mars Polaris?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rbrown4856@a... [mailto:rbrown4856@a...]
> I can't help it but to me I believe the track Gates of
> Saturn from Mota
> Atma has to be a leftover from Mars Polaris.It just sounds
> too much like something from that CD.
From:
Steven Feldman
Date: Wed Mar 5, 2003 3:03
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Astoria CD Single
On Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:27:10 EST rbrown4856@a... writes:
> I can't help it but to me I believe the track Gates of Saturn
> from Mota Atma has to be a leftover from Mars Polaris. It just
>sounds too much like something from that CD.
this is a *good* thing. Better something that sounds like
MARS POLARIS than something that sounds like THE SEVEN LETTERS
FROM TIBET or INFERNO!
>Rick
Stephe Feldman, androgyne
http://androgyne.0catch.com/ Androgyne Online webmaster
[note that the '0' in '0catch' is a zero (Ø), not a capital O]
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From:
Heiko Heerssen
Date: Wed Mar 5, 2003 6:54
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Funniest LP list I've ever read
> All you vinyl lovers out there: you've GOT to read this very interesting
> (and hillarious) list of LPs.
>
> http://www.kingkonggirio.com/vinyl.htm
>
> James
a real classic..guess I'm gonna sell my 'Switched on Bach' CD and buy
'Switched on Santa' instead. Or Walter Ostanek and the Polka Schmaltz Band?
:-)
Heiko
From:
'braddito'
Date: Wed Mar 5, 2003 8:53
am
Subject: Re: Astoria CD Single- 7 Letters
I admit that the only bits I've heard of 7 Letters are the clips on
the TDI site plus 'Lhasa' on Quinoa (if it was renamed for 7 Letters
as has been suggested) - but I thought it sounded good. A bit like
early 70's compositions. Are the bits I've heard not representative ?
If a UK owner wants to sell me theirs second hand, I'm interested.
Toby
PS I agree with the comments on DM4 - could be a great CD.
Better something that sounds like
> MARS POLARIS than something that sounds like THE SEVEN LETTERS
> FROM TIBET or INFERNO!
From:
Dan Downey
Date: Wed Mar 5, 2003 1:27
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Funniest LP list I've ever read
I don't know what this says about me but I've got 3 of
the featured LPs but I'm not about to reveal which 3
DanD
--- 'Owens, James' wrote:
> All you vinyl lovers out there: you've GOT to read
> this very interesting
> (and hillarious) list of LPs.
>
> http://www.kingkonggirio.com/vinyl.htm
>
> James
>
>
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From:
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Date: Wed Mar 5, 2003 2:03
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Astoria CD Single
I think the planned 2nd disc already came out as Great Wall of China.
MJ
Original Message:
-----------------
From: Owens, James james.owens@m...
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 16:44:18 -0600
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [tadream] Astoria CD Single
Maybe it was part of the planned second disc of Mars Polaris?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rbrown4856@a... [mailto:rbrown4856@a...]
> I can't help it but to me I believe the track Gates of
> Saturn from Mota
> Atma has to be a leftover from Mars Polaris.It just sounds
> too much like something from that CD.
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From:
'Greg'
Date: Wed Mar 5, 2003 2:18
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Astoria CD Single
LOL
you guys seem to forget that these albums were made as soundtracks! They are
not as interchangable as one may think.
Greg H.
NP Jazzanova - Soul Salsa Soul
> I think the planned 2nd disc already came out as Great Wall of China.
>
> MJ
From:
'ravnnet'
Date: Wed Mar 5, 2003 3:40
pm
Subject: Photos and news from TD
There is some news on www.tangerinedream.org BUT no surprises for the
lucky people who went to Astoria...
Mota Atma is a soundtrack and will hit stores about end of april...
Dream Mixes 4 going to be released at summer time...
Photos from concert in multimedia section...
-Peter Ravn
From:
Date: Wed Mar 5, 2003 4:14
pm
Subject: TD Website update
Hello,
visit http://www.tangerinedream.org (Website update) for Tangerine Dream NEWS
incl. photos from the London - Astoria Gig !!!
Cheers
heiko - Mr. Optical
http://www.tribute-to-ashra.de
http://www.opticaldream.de
Sign up for your free PAYPAL account:
https://www.paypal.com/refer/pal=WDJX3DNKVFJ9E
cool link: http://www.klamm.de/?refid=62978
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From:
'syngate'
Date: Wed Mar 5, 2003 6:46
am
Subject: Syngate News 3/2003
www.syngate.net
presents
Mysterious Sequences at the Castle
and
the Schwingungen election 2002
(Schwingungenwahl 2002)
with
Fanger & Schönwälder live
on 29th March 2003 at Satzvey Castle, Germany.
and invited guests like Axess, Steve Baltes, Ron Boots,
Harald Grosskopf, Klaus Hoffmann-Hoock, Kein Kaufzwang, Klangwelt,
Peter Mergener, Nautilus, Nebula Drone and more.
Besides this another event will takes place on 15th March 2003 EMiL -
Electronic Music FESTIVAL in Langenfeld
with: Otarion, Arcanum, Bas B. Broekhuis, Nebula Drone,
Something Completely Different, Keller & Schönwälder,
['ramp], Second Decay and Navigator
plus great new CD-Rs from the SynGate label:
> CD-R 2013: Nebula Drone - On
> CD-R 2012: beatboys 2000 - citylife 2
> CD-R 2011: beatboys 2000 - citylife 1
> CD-R 2010: beatboys 2000 - little place
> CD-R 2009: Hardy Kukuk - timeless
> CD-R 2006: Syn - Thru The SynGate
> CD-R 2005: Remote Spaces - Spirals
> CD-R 2004: Foreign Spaces - Early Breakfast
> CD-R 2003: Frank Klare - Memorial Dreams
> CD-R 2002: Frank Klare - Berlin Sequences
> CD-R 2001: Synrise - Fade In
> CD-R 2106: BIOnight - Songswell
> CD-R 2105: BIOnight - Daybreak
> CD-R 2103: BIOnight - Afterpost 2001
> CD-R 2101: BIOnight - Egoheart
With kind regards and hope to see you at SATZVEY or EMiL
Lothar
www.syngate.net
From:
'Neil '
Date: Tue Mar 4, 2003 7:03
am
Subject: OT - Trying to contact Ray Hallett
Sorry about the waste of bandwidth folks but I'm trying to contact Ray and am
getting emails bounced back.
Could Ray contact me off-list asap please.
Regards
Neil
From:
'creative_operator '
Date: Mon Mar 3, 2003 1:47
pm
Subject: Astoria Photos
Photos uploaded to the 'Photos' area of the Tadream Group.
Enjoy
Derek
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From:
'P.M. Dierking '
Date: Sun Mar 2, 2003 11:30
pm
Subject: Comparison / recommendation
I have a friend in (a remote part) Russia who really likes Klaus
Schulze' album 'Dune'. They have never heard TD, but are very
interested. I'm not particularly familiar with Schulze, but based on
someone liking 'Dune', what TD material might my friend find most
appealing?
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From:
'P.M. Dierking '
Date: Sun Mar 2, 2003 11:26
pm
Subject: Fast sequences
Does anyone know, or can speculate who might have been the primary
composer of the sequence work in Flock and Midnight in Tula?
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From:
'creative_operator '
Date: Sun Mar 2, 2003 9:11
pm
Subject: Astoria Photos
New photos from the above concert have been added in the 'Photos'
area of this Group :
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/tadream/lst?.view=t&.dir=/Astori
a+15+Feb+2003
Enjoy
Derek
From:
'leethake '
Date: Sun Mar 2, 2003 12:44
pm
Subject: TD TREE
I keep seeing that the digital tree can be downloaded and would be
happy if someone could help me as to how can get info or authorsation
to be able to download.
The Astoria Gig was good and i did not take a camera so thanks for
all those that are posting photos on the web
Looking forward to another 30 years of music
From:
'Bill Dennehy '
Date: Sat Mar 1, 2003 7:20
pm
Subject: Always interested in more TD
Hi, I have the first TD tree and I am getting the second one soon. I
don't have any other rec of this 'type' of music but have lots of
jazz to trade for more TD. If interested, please email me directly.
Thanks, Bill Dennehy
From:
Shez
Date: Fri Feb 28, 2003 11:42
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Kraftwerk - Klaus Schulze
>Days' during about 3 minutes. This band was composed by the following
>members: Klaus Schulze (organ), F. J. Krueger (guitar), Marian Gold
>(vocals), Toni Nissl (drums) and a certain 'Fred Schnitzel' playing
>bass. 'Fred' is also known by the name of 'Florian Schneider' when he
>plays in another group called Kraftwerk. The film is directed by
>Diethard Kuester, screenplay by Jochen Brunow, and the main cast is:
>Natalia Woerner, Leslie Malton, Christoph M. Ohrt and Esther Schweins.
>
well, Florian Schneider is a comon name in Germany I presume, it's
probably not the right one.
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From:
'Mat Mckenzie'
Date: Fri Feb 28, 2003 9:54
am
Subject: RE: [tadream] Re: Kraftwerk concert in Australia
check out their website, Kraftwerk have been on the move again but managed to
bypass the UK completely :-(
-----Original Message-----
From: colin anderson [mailto:colin_anderson@i...]
Sent: 28 February 2003 09:39
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] Re: Kraftwerk concert in Australia
Errrr....what concert in Australia?
Message: 18
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 14:30:45 -0000
From: 'Mat Mckenzie'
Subject: KRAFTWERK GOSSIP
Sorry 2b off topic but sure there are TD fans out there that like Kraftwerk too
- so.........
'A freind of a friend spoke to Hütter an Schneider at one of their concerts in
Australia recently. Ralf says they have one new single ready and are working on
a 'greatest Hits' DVD.
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From:
'Fred Yargui'
Date: Wed Mar 5, 2003 5:35
pm
Subject: Re: Jarre and TT2
Hello, Dreamers,
Thank you, René, for the info. Amazon got a new customer last night ;o)
I *still* have a complete set of TT2 cdr-audio ready to go if someone is
interested... please contact me off list in case.
Best Regards,
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: 'René Brenner'
To:
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 7:21 PM
Subject: [tadream] OT: Official Rerelease of JMJ Les Granges brulées
One of the very old Soundtracks from Jarre is finally re-issued on the
official Francis dreyfus music label for a very decent price
(amazon.fr) and other places. No more need to get your hands on
counterfeits.
From:
Olav Neander
Date: Wed Mar 5, 2003 5:47
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Comparison / recommendation
P.M. Dierking schrieb:
>based on someone liking 'Dune', what TD material might my friend find most
>appealing?
>
Dune... I'll suggest the early stuff like Zeit, Atem, concerning the
first track on Dune. Phaedra and Rubycon could be appealing concerning
the other track.
Olav
Electronic Dreamscapes from Norway - http://www.mp3.com/autopoiesis -
ICQ# 9622825
From:
'michaeljean@e...'
Date: Wed Mar 5, 2003 5:54
pm
Subject: Re: was Astoria CD Single, Mars Polaris GWOC
Perhaps, but aren't you forgetting about the Mars Polaris 'mispressing',
that contained about 50% material from GWOC?
MJ
Original Message:
-----------------
From: Greg designx@c...
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 07:18:48 -0700
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] Astoria CD Single
LOL
you guys seem to forget that these albums were made as soundtracks! They are
not as interchangable as one may think.
Greg H.
NP Jazzanova - Soul Salsa Soul
> I think the planned 2nd disc already came out as Great Wall of China.
>
> MJ
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From:
'omegatransfinito'
Date: Wed Mar 5, 2003 6:25
pm
Subject: Re: TD Webcam URGENT!!!
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Holt
wrote:
> not
> sure how, maybe a bomb went off, maybe spies from Jean
> Michel Jarre's camp are hiding in the trees, disguised
> as squirrels and wearing cloaking devices like in
> Predator, or it could have been a bit of a light
> breeze!
A 'light' breeze? Don't you mean a 'cool' breeze from
you-know-where?
-Wait a minute. At the moment it shows some sort of an iron
balcony which I don't remember seeing earlier... so do they take
the fence down once in a while or was it just too dark the last
time?
John Vertical
From:
'omegatransfinito'
Date: Wed Mar 5, 2003 6:34
pm
Subject: I have a clue about the bouncing issue.
Just a while ago I experienced my first Yahoo bouncing case. It
was an extreme nothing-through bounce..
This occured almost the same instant I turned my junk mail filter
on. I now set it off (I can delete spam by hand as well - it's
usually only 3-8 messages per day) and... hey presto, everything
works fine again.
Coincidence? I think not.
I might check soon if toggling the filter will continue to toggle the
bouncing...
John Vertical
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From:
'David Wakefield'
Date: Wed Mar 5, 2003 6:52
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] I have a clue about the bouncing issue.
Because I am on ADSL I use web2mail to read my email when I am away.
The email filter says all of the emails to this group are spam.
Dave W
-------Original Message-------
From: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Date: 05 March 2003 18:35:03
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] I have a clue about the bouncing issue.
Just a while ago I experienced my first Yahoo bouncing case. It
was an extreme nothing-through bounce..
This occured almost the same instant I turned my junk mail filter
on. I now set it off (I can delete spam by hand as well - it's
usually only 3-8 messages per day) and... hey presto, everything
works fine again.
Coincidence? I think not.
I might check soon if toggling the filter will continue to toggle the
bouncing...
John Vertical
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From:
Richard
Date: Wed Mar 5, 2003 7:00
pm
Subject: Anyone managed to recreate the 'Seagull Sound' on a Korg Z1?
Anyone out there with a Korg Z1 and managed to recreate that TD
'Seagull Sound'?
Cheers
--
Richard F
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From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Wed Mar 5, 2003 8:17
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Fast sequences
Chris, most definitely. Listen to 'Chimes and Chains' from the 70-80 box
set and you'll be convinced as well. (Or even the theme from the vaporware
Babylon 5 combat simulator game.) Also, if you listen to the sequencer lines
of Edgar's solo stuff, they have a different feel to them than Chris' stuff.
Note: I don't have any direct reference for this, it's just educated guesses
on my part.
James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: P.M. Dierking
>
> Does anyone know, or can speculate who might have been the primary
> composer of the sequence work in Flock and Midnight in Tula?
From:
'Pergamon'
Date: Wed Mar 5, 2003 9:32
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Anyone managed to recreate the 'Seagull Sound' on a Korg Z1?
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Richard'
Subject: [tadream] Anyone managed to recreate the 'Seagull Sound' on a Korg
Z1?
> Anyone out there with a Korg Z1 and managed to recreate that TD
> 'Seagull Sound'?
> Cheers
> Richard F
I am interested in this as well. Do we have a
synthsoundprogrammingsgurugodthingy on this list which would like to share
the sound?????
Jan
From:
'Greg'
Date: Wed Mar 5, 2003 10:11
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: was Astoria CD Single, Mars Polaris GWOC
The two albums may have been done around the same time but they are both
thematically very different and both soundtracks for two very different
things.
The misspressing is just that - a misspressing. I don't understand how you
could stamp Mars Polaris 2 onto GWOC.
Greg H.
NP: Warp Brothers - Cokane
> Perhaps, but aren't you forgetting about the Mars Polaris 'mispressing',
> that contained about 50% material from GWOC?
>
> MJ
From:
Liondream@a...
Date: Thu Mar 6, 2003 4:14
am
Subject: Re: AS on Korg
I have a Vaz 2010 patch if anyone wants it - at least I think it's on the
right track. Haven't tried it on any other beasts yet. In theory I think one
should be able to recreate it on whatever has the appropriate modules. I know
there was discussion about it being done on a modular, etc., etc., but one
should still be able to get in the ballpark IMO.
Not familiar with the Z1 architecture exactly... I almost bought one three
years ago but went for a CS6X instead.
Didn't Eric W. mention something about a Z1 last week? Eric, any luck?
w
BTW I heard today that Korg is coming out with a Wavestation vsti (for those
who wish to add a little Deep Atmosphere to their tunes)! MS10 too!
In a message dated 3/5/2003 7:00:34 PM Central Standard Time,
tadream@yahoogroups.com writes:
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 22:32:08 +0100
> From: 'Pergamon'
> Subject: Re: Anyone managed to recreate the 'Seagull Sound' on a Korg Z1?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Richard'
> Subject: [tadream] Anyone managed to recreate the 'Seagull Sound' on a Korg
> Z1?
> > Anyone out there with a Korg Z1 and managed to recreate that TD
> > 'Seagull Sound'?
> > Cheers
> > Richard F
>
> I am interested in this as well. Do we have a
> C on this list which would like to share
> the sound?????
>
> Jan
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From:
'tangram80'
Date: Thu Mar 6, 2003 4:53
am
Subject: Great news from TDI
Soundtrack - Mota Atma - release in April!
Posted on Wednesday 05 March @ 14:56:38 | |
As the people attending the Astoria show may have already noticed,
the newest Tangerine Dream soundtrack release, titled Mota Atma, will
be hitting the shops.
The world wide release date is April 29th, 2003 and the album will be
released on our new sublabel TDP. Distribution will be via Voiceprint
U.K. and Zomba.
The music is based on a soundtrack Edgar and Jerome Froese composed
for a Japanese/American co-produced documentary.
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From:
Eric Williamson
Date: Thu Mar 6, 2003 6:26
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Kraftwerk - Klaus Schulze
On Friday, February 28, 2003, at 05:42 AM, Shez wrote:
> well, Florian Schneider is a comon name in Germany I presume, it's
> probably not the right one.
i believe there is a mention of that movie on Klaus' website, and he
says some thing about 'members of Kraftwerk'.
---
Eric Williamson
www.suitandtieguy.com
From:
'Glynn Naughton'
Date: Thu Mar 6, 2003 8:51
am
Subject: Re: Fast sequences
>From: 'P.M. Dierking '
>Date: Sun Mar 2, 2003 11:26 pm
>Subject: Fast sequences
>
>Does anyone know, or can speculate who might have been the primary
>composer of the sequence work in Flock and Midnight in Tula?
I've always assumed that 'Midnight in Tula' is predominantly
Schmoelling. It's one of those signature 'wacky' pieces that
I always associate him with. See 'The Anteater' or 'Huntsman's
Song' (I think that's the one--anyway, the crazy-sounding one
from the _Songs Without Words_ album.)
Incidentally, why do the sleevenotes on _Songs Without Words_
go on and on and on about Mendellsohn and the piano? There's
hardly any f*cking piano on this record. When I bought it
I thought it was going to be full of solo piano tracks, with
maybe a bit of synth backing here and there.
Glynn
'_Orgasmatron_ was a record about the things people who are not very
good at sex get involved in--like politics, religion and war.'
--Lemmy
From:
Armin Theissen
Date: Thu Mar 6, 2003 10:34
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Fast sequences
Unfortunately not so often praised for his excellent
sequencer work is TD veteran Peter Baumann! I suspect
he's behind the Stratosfear sequencing. Listen to
his solo records!
armin
Owens, James wrote:
> Chris, most definitely. Listen to 'Chimes and Chains' from the 70-80 box
> set and you'll be convinced as well. (Or even the theme from the vaporware
> Babylon 5 combat simulator game.) Also, if you listen to the sequencer lines
> of Edgar's solo stuff, they have a different feel to them than Chris' stuff.
>
> Note: I don't have any direct reference for this, it's just educated guesses
> on my part.
> James
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: P.M. Dierking
>>
>>Does anyone know, or can speculate who might have been the primary
>>composer of the sequence work in Flock and Midnight in Tula?
>>
>
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From:
Dennis Nigbur
Date: Thu Mar 6, 2003 10:28
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Great news from TDI
Good news indeed. But wasn't MA announced as the brand-new studio
album? I struggle to remember the last studio release that wasn't a
soundtrack, Remix or Re-Release of some description.
Dennis
On 6 Mar 2003 at 4:53, tangram80 wrote:
> Soundtrack - Mota Atma - release in April!
> Posted on Wednesday 05 March @ 14:56:38 | |
> As the people attending the Astoria show may have already noticed, the
> newest Tangerine Dream soundtrack release, titled Mota Atma, will be
> hitting the shops.
>
> The world wide release date is April 29th, 2003 and the album will be
> released on our new sublabel TDP. Distribution will be via Voiceprint
> U.K. and Zomba. The music is based on a soundtrack Edgar and Jerome
> Froese composed for a Japanese/American co-produced documentary.
>
>
>
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From:
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Date: Thu Mar 6, 2003 12:26
pm
Subject: TD release schedule
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Nigbur wrote:
> Good news indeed. But wasn't MA announced as the brand-new studio
> album? I struggle to remember the last studio release that wasn't a
> soundtrack, Remix or Re-Release of some description.
>
> Dennis
Er, _Inferno_? True, though: 'proper' albums have been fairly thin on
the ground in recent years. (I count Goblins Club, Mars Polaris and
Inferno since 1996) and there has been an awful lot of 'white noise'
in the form of Dream Mixes, remixes, compilations, live
albums, 'classics' releases, soundtracks, etc.
But then again, I suppose when a band starts releasing stuff on its
own label, a more regular and structured release schedule doesn't
apply anymore. Bear in mind, too, that Edgar is pushing 60, and that
since about 2000 TD looks as if it has started to slow down into a
sort of semi-retirement. I doubt very much whether we'll ever see the
regular appearance of 'proper' albums again.
Glynn
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From:
'Mat Mckenzie'
Date: Thu Mar 6, 2003 11:12
am
Subject: RE: [tadream] Fast sequences Baumann SOLO
Armin,
I guess it's hard to say how much each band member has contributed to any piece
and if he even contributed 'equally' to
Phaedra, Rubycon, Ricochet or Stratosfear the man has talent ( Ricochet being a
personal all time favourite )
However!! what happenned on his solo LP's ? I own all the vinyl versions but
recently purchased a 'best of' on CD as it was cheap and the experience
reminded me why they have been pretty much unplayed for so long - Repeat Repeat
being the most diabolical of his solo output - comparing Ricochet to Kinky
Dinky!!!! oh dear..........
Mat
-----Original Message-----
From: Armin Theissen [mailto:Armin.Theissen@s...]
Sent: 06 March 2003 10:34
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] Fast sequences
Unfortunately not so often praised for his excellent
sequencer work is TD veteran Peter Baumann! I suspect
he's behind the Stratosfear sequencing. Listen to
his solo records!
armin
Owens, James wrote:
> Chris, most definitely. Listen to 'Chimes and Chains' from the 70-80 box
> set and you'll be convinced as well. (Or even the theme from the vaporware
> Babylon 5 combat simulator game.) Also, if you listen to the sequencer lines
> of Edgar's solo stuff, they have a different feel to them than Chris' stuff.
>
> Note: I don't have any direct reference for this, it's just educated guesses
> on my part.
> James
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: P.M. Dierking
>>
>>Does anyone know, or can speculate who might have been the primary
>>composer of the sequence work in Flock and Midnight in Tula?
>>
>
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Date: Thu Mar 6, 2003 3:14
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Subject: Re: [tadream] TD release schedule
I am the same way interested in classics releases, live albums and the so
called 'proper' releases. And I can't see a soundtrack as something 'improper':
isn't the difference to a regular record only the source of inspiration?. OK I
know that in the past there were some 'questionable' soundtracks or better
soundtrack issues. But all the latter ones were not to distinguish from
'normal' releases, were they?
Jörg
tadream@yahoogroups.com schrieb am 06.03.03 13:26:38:
>
> --- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Nigbur wrote:
> > Good news indeed. But wasn't MA announced as the brand-new studio
> > album? I struggle to remember the last studio release that wasn't a
> > soundtrack, Remix or Re-Release of some description.
> >
> > Dennis
>
> Er, _Inferno_? True, though: 'proper' albums have been fairly thin on
> the ground in recent years. (I count Goblins Club, Mars Polaris and
> Inferno since 1996) and there has been an awful lot of 'white noise'
> in the form of Dream Mixes, remixes, compilations, live
> albums, 'classics' releases, soundtracks, etc.
>
> But then again, I suppose when a band starts releasing stuff on its
> own label, a more regular and structured release schedule doesn't
> apply anymore. Bear in mind, too, that Edgar is pushing 60, and that
> since about 2000 TD looks as if it has started to slow down into a
> sort of semi-retirement. I doubt very much whether we'll ever see the
> regular appearance of 'proper' albums again.
>
> Glynn
>
>
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Date: Thu Mar 6, 2003 3:41
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Fast sequences Baumann SOLO
In a message dated 3/6/2003 6:41:17 AM Pacific Standard Time,
mmckenzie@o... writes:
> However!! what happenned on his solo LP's ?
>
> Mat
*Well I think Romance '76 was one of the truly great albums... and I like
about 1/2 of Trans harmonic nights... but once he started singing,
well..........
Poly
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From:
Synthhtnys@a...
Date: Thu Mar 6, 2003 3:43
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Fast sequences
In a message dated 3/6/2003 2:35:15 AM Pacific Standard Time,
Armin.Theissen@s... writes:
> Unfortunately not so often praised for his excellent
> sequencer work is TD veteran Peter Baumann! I suspect
> he's behind the Stratosfear sequencing. Listen to
> his solo records!
>
> armin
>
*I agree 100%.
Stratosfear has Baumann's stamp all over it.
Yes, I think he's very underrated when it comes to sequencing.
Poly
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From:
Paul Fellows
Date: Thu Mar 6, 2003 3:52
pm
Subject: [tadream] New swaplist
Hi all,
After a week's holiday in the UK and a few days being unable to FTP my
updated web pages, I have finally managed to put up my rather more
interesting than usual swaplist:
http://perso.club-internet.fr/pfellows/webpages/swaplist.html
Cheers
Paul
From:
Dennis Nigbur
Date: Thu Mar 6, 2003 3:06
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] TD release schedule
On 6 Mar 2003 at 12:26, Glynn Naughton wrote:
> Er, _Inferno_? True, though: 'proper' albums have been fairly thin on
> the ground in recent years. (I count Goblins Club, Mars Polaris and
> Inferno since 1996) and there has been an awful lot of 'white noise'
> in the form of Dream Mixes, remixes, compilations, live albums,
> 'classics' releases, soundtracks, etc.
Ah, of course! I don't have Inferno yet, which is probably why I didn't
count it. But even then, Inferno is based on a concrete, specific literary
source and therefore only a small step away from a soundtrack...and
wasn't Mars Polaris labelled as a 'virtual soundtrack to something'?
Which leaves Goblins' Club of 6 years ago, which is also the last
'proper' studio album I could remember...
Dennis
From:
Dennis Nigbur
Date: Thu Mar 6, 2003 3:11
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] TD release schedule
On 6 Mar 2003 at 12:26, Glynn Naughton wrote:
> Er, _Inferno_? True, though: 'proper' albums have been fairly thin on
> the ground in recent years. (I count Goblins Club, Mars Polaris and
> Inferno since 1996) and there has been an awful lot of 'white noise'
> in the form of Dream Mixes, remixes, compilations, live albums,
> 'classics' releases, soundtracks, etc.
Ah, of course! I don't have Inferno yet, which is probably why I didn't
count it. But even then, Inferno is based on a concrete, specific literary
source and therefore only a small step away from a soundtrack...and
wasn't Mars Polaris labelled as a 'virtual soundtrack to something'?
Which leaves Goblins' Club of 6 years ago, which is also the last
'proper' studio album I could remember...
Dennis
From:
'dreamsector'
Date: Thu Mar 6, 2003 5:18
pm
Subject: DM4 packaging
I've been meaning to post this as just one small voice (e.g. one
opinion as an end user)... it's meant more for Martin than anyone else,
but may also apply to others out there...
Before I continue let me again bring up the word: opinion!
Listening to DM3 right now, and I really like the packaging and design
- in fact I like most of the work that Mr. Froese has done over the
years and specifically the TDI years. I think it suits the music well.
However...
As cool as the digipak concept is presentation-wise, it is not my
favorite thing in terms of practicality. It seems that the center piece
that holds the cd in place never lasts very long on those - especially
when it's clear plastic. A couple of the little teeth have broken off
on my DM3 and now the cd always falls out. Seems like it happens to all
my digipak cds and my copy of Shango, for example, is also actually
falling apart at the seams.
If it was a regular jewel case I could just go out and buy another one,
but with the digipak I'm kind of stuck.
So, for what it's worth, I would like to place a vote for a regular
jewel case for DM4.
I guess I should also say that I treat my cds very nicely and it isn't
as if I was playing frisbee on the beach with it or something.
:-)
w
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From:
'dreamsector'
Date: Thu Mar 6, 2003 5:24
pm
Subject: DM4 packaging correction
I should have said 'request' not vote. A subtle difference perhaps, but
important, no?
w
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From:
Antonio Nunes
Date: Thu Mar 6, 2003 6:06
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] TD release schedule
Dennis Nigbur wrote:
>
> Which leaves Goblins' Club of 6 years ago, which is also the last
> 'proper' studio album I could remember...
You are forgetting 'The Seven Letters from Tibet' (2000). Anyway it
seems as if Edgar and Jerome have forgotten this album too, as they have
never played live any track of it. Or did they play and everybody
forgot? ;-)
BTW, for Toby Braddick, I consider the track 'Lhasa' representative of
the style of 'Seven Letters'. If you like 'Lhasa', probably you'll like
'Seven Letters' as well.
Antonio Nunes
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From:
Olav Neander
Date: Thu Mar 6, 2003 7:06
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Fast sequences
Synthhtnys@a... schrieb:
>*I agree 100%.
>
Me too...
>Stratosfear has Baumann's stamp all over it.
>Yes, I think he's very underrated when it comes to sequencing.
>
>
Check also the Mannheim tape, sounds like Bauman was very active in this
concert, I think it also includes an early version of Baumann's
'Bicentennial Present'
Olav
http://www.mp3.com/autopoiesis
NP: Ricochet
From:
'Colin Jouxson'
Date: Thu Mar 6, 2003 7:51
pm
Subject: After The Call!
I often wonder why the modern TD dont open concerts with this GEM,we
need more EF JF & PH numbers live,i was begging for one of my all
time Favs at Astoria,ART OF VISION.Sublime.
From:
'John Marchington'
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 12:53
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] DM4 packaging
My sentiments exactly. I purchased KS's 'Cyborg' recently -- and there were
broken teeth on tray #2 when the disc arrived, never mind any wear and tear
with extracting and replacing the disc.
I recently purchased Santana's 'Caravanserai' on SACD -- and was stunned to
find it was in a digipak too! I also have a number of Deutsche Grammophon's
of 20th century music (Pierre Boulez, Elliott Carter, Mauricio Kagel, Toru
Takemitsu and others) and I can only hope that they won't self-destruct as
well.
The other thing I don't like about digipaks is that the trays tend to be
shallower that those in jewel cases and, with my big mitts, I'm always
worrying about scratching the discs when I remove them. (Interesting
'Caravanserai' has a deep tray, so this criticism doesn't apply to it)
I assume that digipaks came about to reduce manufacturing costs. However, I
would have thought that the cost of producing jewel cases by the zillions
would be minimal anyway so I'm dubious about any real saving. Perhaps it's
the printing and stapling of the liner notes and rear panel that makes the
difference.
Eliminate the digipaks, I say.
----- Original Message -----
From: 'dreamsector'
To:
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 6:18 AM
Subject: [tadream] DM4 packaging
> I've been meaning to post this as just one small voice (e.g. one
> opinion as an end user)... it's meant more for Martin than anyone else,
> but may also apply to others out there...
>
> Before I continue let me again bring up the word: opinion!
>
> Listening to DM3 right now, and I really like the packaging and design
> - in fact I like most of the work that Mr. Froese has done over the
> years and specifically the TDI years. I think it suits the music well.
>
> However...
>
> As cool as the digipak concept is presentation-wise, it is not my
> favorite thing in terms of practicality. It seems that the center piece
> that holds the cd in place never lasts very long on those - especially
> when it's clear plastic. A couple of the little teeth have broken off
> on my DM3 and now the cd always falls out. Seems like it happens to all
> my digipak cds and my copy of Shango, for example, is also actually
> falling apart at the seams.
>
> If it was a regular jewel case I could just go out and buy another one,
> but with the digipak I'm kind of stuck.
>
> So, for what it's worth, I would like to place a vote for a regular
> jewel case for DM4.
>
> I guess I should also say that I treat my cds very nicely and it isn't
> as if I was playing frisbee on the beach with it or something.
>
> :-)
>
> w
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From:
'Glenn Folkvord \(Hyperion Media\)'
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 12:57
am
Subject: OT: Reach 100s of fans
Hello,
This is not a scam or spam, just a special one-off promotion project that I
have.
I have a number of orders for a CD with JM Jarre remixes that I havent sent
out yet. It's in the three figure range (between 100 and 999 orders, that is
:-) and I would like to include a CDR as a free gift, as a surprise to the
customers, with electronic music 'donated' to this promotion oppourtunity by
artists.
For this project I need songs. If you have music online that I can download,
I can include it (them) on the CDR and it will mean free and no-hassle
promotion to hundreds of electronic music fans. All you have to do it point
me to the music. Of course you will be credited and get a web link to your
other music.
Many musicians already have their music for free download and these are whom
I am targeting - now you can reach out to hundreds of music fans by just
sending me your link. Of course, anyone else who normally dont give away
their music online can join in to.
I reserve the right to choose which tracks will be included on the CD.
Short-ish tracks will be preferred, to give room to more artists.
Please let me know asap if this is something you'd be interested in.
Regards from Glenn Folkvord
Owner, Hyperion Media - arts and media development
glenn@f...
From:
Art Of Vision
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 9:28
am
Subject: Outside the TD World
Hi,
I wanted to ask you about your musical interests
outside TD. I mean, the music
which is really different from the TD style (unlike
AirSculpture RMI etc).
That's because of two reasons:
1) After about two years of listening to ONLY TD some
kind of breakthrough
happened to me a couple of month ago and now my
musical interests
are extending very fast; however I still feel TD to be
the best, but in completely
different way. So I thought maybe you can recommend me
something.
2) I wanted to know the attitude of other TD fans
about this music I'm
mostly listening to now, just for interest.
So my new interests include:
KMFDM
Rammstein
Sentenced
Project Pitchfork
Lacrimosa
BTW I'd recommend the last one for all TD fans.
Regards,
ArtOfVision
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From:
TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 9:26
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] DM4 packaging correction
At 17:24 06.03.03, you wrote:
>I should have said 'request' not vote. A subtle difference perhaps, but
>important, no?
>
>w
>
I will suggest your request the boss... ;-)
I do think it will most probably be a Jewel Case for DM4.
Best regards,
Martin Kasprzak
TDI- Music- Support.
Tel:-49-30-23620995
Fax:-49-30-23620996
Visit our Website at:
http://www.tangerinedream.org
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From:
TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 9:35
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] DM4 packaging
>
>I assume that digipaks came about to reduce manufacturing costs. However, I
>would have thought that the cost of producing jewel cases by the zillions
>would be minimal anyway so I'm dubious about any real saving. Perhaps it's
>the printing and stapling of the liner notes and rear panel that makes the
>difference.
>
>Eliminate the digipaks, I say.
*I think I have to correct you - a Digipac is almost twice as expensive as
a Jewel Case in production. As far as I know, the Digipac was invented as a
form of 'special' packaging that was intended to give the product encased a
'nobler' look - it was also intended to replicate the look and feel of the
good ole´ vinyl sleeve in a way.
While I do believe that a Digipac looks much better than a Jewel Case, I
would agree with you on all accounts regarding the downsets. They wear out
easily and you can´t replace the trays.
There are a few all-cardboard packagings on the market now that are
slightly more convenient while also retaining this 'vinyl packaging'-look,
due to the fact that they don´t have trays that can break. The problem of
them wearing out easily remains with these, though, too.
Best regards,
Martin Kasprzak
TDI- Music- Support.
Tel:-49-30-23620995
Fax:-49-30-23620996
Visit our Website at:
http://www.tangerinedream.org
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From:
TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 9:41
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Outside the TD World
OK, here we go...
Martin´s musical favorites outside the TD world:
- The Church
- The Mission
- Bauhaus / Peter Murphy / Tones on Tail
- Japan
- Fields of the Nephilim
- All About Eve
- Comsat Angels
- Psychedelic Furs
- The Cure
- Depeche Mode
- Peter Gabriel (and his works w. Genesis)
- David Bowie
- Bryan Ferry/ Roxy Music
- Marillion (w. Fish)
- Madness
- Anathema
and... most recently Porcupine Tree ('In Absentia' is a masterpiece IMO)
...and much more, of course... ;-)
Jeez, gotta dive back into my piles of work now...
Best regards,
Martin Kasprzak
TDI- Music- Support.
Tel:-49-30-23620995
Fax:-49-30-23620996
Visit our Website at:
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From:
Marko Marin
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 9:40
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Outside the TD World
Steve Roach has a very ambient style and rarely
reminds TD or others. Tough I've heard that his
earlier albums are similar to TD and Schulze with all
the sequences and stuff like that, today his style is
very moody, dark and breezy. I have only two albums so
I can recommend only them: The Live Archive
(collection of very dark live pieces...) and Lost
Pieces (contains rare tracks between 1988-1992 if I
remember correctly).
Regards,
Marko Marin
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From:
Heiko Heerssen
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 10:06
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Outside the TD World
TD still rules and over the last couple of years I have barely listen to
anything else, but apart from them my turntable and CD player were blocked
by:
--Captain Beefheart
--The Residents
--MX-80 Sound
--Comsat Angels
--Ramones
--Hüsker Dü
--Dead Kennedys
--Popol Vuh
--Can
--Amon Düül II
--Van der Graaf Generator
regards
Heiko
From:
mrmorton@a...
Date: Thu Mar 6, 2003 5:33
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] TD release schedule
I don't have it here, so I don't know if the notes say it counts itself as a
'new' release or indicates something different, but '7 letters from Tibet'?
From:
'braddito'
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 10:06
am
Subject: Re: Outside the TD World
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Art Of Vision
wrote:
>
> I wanted to ask you about your musical interests
> outside
Life outside the TD world ? Not a lot of it if you exclude Schulze
and Ashra.
I do occasionally listen to Led Zep, Pink Floyd, Yes, Genesis,
Hawkwind, Brand X, VDGG (+ Peter Hammill solo), Sensational Alex
Harvey Band, Santana, Cream.
Toby
NP : TD Tokyo Koseinenkin Hall 23.06.83
PS I have LZ, PF, Yes and Genesis to trade for TD/KS
From:
edgar-rainer.berberich@g...
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 10:08
am
Subject: Antwort: [tadream] Outside the TD World
I am open to a lot of music styles (Jazz, Blues, Funk, Classic, Rock, Hard
'n' Heavy) and
- Deep Purple
- Blackmore's Night
- Des Geyers schwarzer Haufen
- Bad Company
- Stievie Ray Vaughn
- Wishbone Ash
- Led Zepplein and the solo stuff
- Pink Floyd
- Pallas
- IQ
- Rory Gallagher
- Miles Davis
- Weather Report
- Genesis
- Marillion (Fish stuff)
- Ludwig v. Beethoven (conducted by Karajan)
- Neil Young
- Many Stuff of Progessive Music
Mit freundlichem Grüßen / best regards
Edgar Rainer Berberich
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From:
'braddito'
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 10:08
am
Subject: TT3 artwork
I've seen it, I know I have, but can I find it now I'm ready to roll ?
Guidance would be gratefully received.
Cheers
Toby
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From:
Olav Neander
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 10:13
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Outside the TD World
Art Of Vision schrieb:
>So I thought maybe you can recommend me
>something.
>
Here is my favourite non-Berlin School music list:
Mike Oldfield
Depeche Mode
The Pogues
Milladoiro
Premiata Forneria Marconi
Rick Wakeman's 70s stuff
SBB
Best regards, Olav
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From:
'David Wakefield'
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 10:14
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Outside the TD World
What don't I listen to?
I have Marilyn Manson, Neil Diamond, Abba, Ac/Dc, IQ, Patric Moraz, Blondie,
George Thorrogood, Eva Cassidy, The Police, Deep Purple, Prince, Jeff Beck,
Soundgarden and the list goes on and on.
-------Original Message-------
From: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Date: 07 March 2003 10:06:59
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] Re: Outside the TD World
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Art Of Vision
wrote:
>
> I wanted to ask you about your musical interests
> outside
Life outside the TD world ? Not a lot of it if you exclude Schulze
and Ashra.
I do occasionally listen to Led Zep, Pink Floyd, Yes, Genesis,
Hawkwind, Brand X, VDGG (+ Peter Hammill solo), Sensational Alex
Harvey Band, Santana, Cream.
Toby
NP : TD Tokyo Koseinenkin Hall 23.06.83
PS I have LZ, PF, Yes and Genesis to trade for TD/KS
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From:
Antonio Nunes
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 10:22
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] TT3 artwork
'braddito' wrote:
> I've seen it, I know I have, but can I find it now I'm ready to roll ?
>
> Guidance would be gratefully received.
Go to http://tdtree.blackaxis.co.uk/tt3.htm
Antonio Nunes
From:
Heiko Heerssen
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 10:39
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] TT3 artwork
> I've seen it, I know I have, but can I find it now I'm ready to roll ?
http://tdtree.blackaxis.co.uk/tt3.htm
From:
'Pergamon'
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 10:30
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Outside the TD World
Infected Mushroom
X-Dream
Astrix
Astral Projection
Audio Science
FSOL
Orbital
Enya
Enigma
Lorenna Mckennitt
Toy Dolls
Joy Division
Dead Can Dance
Depeche Mode
Nitzer Ebb
Kraftwerk
Mozart
Mike Oldfield
John Serrie
Vivaldi
Bach
Selecter
The Beat
Specials
The Prisoners
Secret Affairs
And lots more...............=O)
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From:
Dennis Nigbur
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 10:25
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] TD release schedule
On 6 Mar 2003 at 18:06, Antonio Nunes wrote:
> You are forgetting 'The Seven Letters from Tibet' (2000). Anyway it
> seems as if Edgar and Jerome have forgotten this album too, as they
> have never played live any track of it. Or did they play and everybody
> forgot? ;-)
I love the Seven Letters, but I didn't forget it...TD and TDI specified
from the beginning that this was not to be considered part of the TD
studio canon. I was looking for the last studio album that was actually
announced as such.
Dennis
From:
Dennis Nigbur
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 10:34
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] TD release schedule
On 6 Mar 2003 at 16:14, jjank@w... wrote:
> I am the same way interested in classics releases, live albums and the
> so called 'proper' releases. And I can't see a soundtrack as something
> 'improper': isn't the difference to a regular record only the source
> of inspiration?
Yes, but I get the impression that this can sometimes be a very
important difference. Soundtracks are created instrumentally and
specifically to score a film or other visual source and are therefore
unlikely to reflect as much of the band's intrinsic motivation and
creativity as a 'normal' studio release. One could argue, of course, that
those, too, are inspired by something, but it tends to be more diffuse.
This is not to say there's anything improper about soundtracks or
remixes. I'm just curious about how today's TD would sound if they
weren't concentrating specifically on doing a 'soundtrack to X' or a
'remix of Y'. Antonio is probably correct in saying that the Seven
Letters from Tibet come closest to this, but even then the 'Tibetan
cycle' has a more finite set of visible inspirations than traditional studio
releases like Phaedra, Stratosfear, Hyperborea, or even Optical Race.
Dennis
From:
Antonio Nunes
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 10:57
am
Subject: Re: Re: [tadream] TD release schedule
Dennis Nigbur wrote:
>
> I love the Seven Letters, but I didn't forget it...TD and TDI specified
> from the beginning that this was not to be considered part of the TD
> studio canon. I was looking for the last studio album that was actually
> announced as such.
Well, the official TD website says this about 7 Letters:
'New studio material by electronic legend Tangerine Dream
Reveals a different, more intimate side of the band'
http://www.tangerinedream.org/mod.php?mod=gallery&op=media&media_id=96
Antonio Nunes
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From:
Armin Theissen
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 11:33
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Outside the TD World
Ah, that would be
Joe Satriani
Stevie Ray Vaughan
The Can / Holger Czukay
Robben Ford
Paco de Lucia
Sergio and Odair Assad
Aziza Mustafa Zadeh (the first three albums, but live always good)
John Coltrane
Joe Pass
Joe Pass
ah, yes, and Joe Pass
Dave Brubeck
Thelonius Monk
Eric Satie
Ludwig van Beethoven
well, Mozart and Bach are always on the list. We wouldn't have
that much music otherwise
John Cage
Karlheinz 'you know who' ('Mantra' is still my favourite)
and Schulze, of course
Armin
Art Of Vision wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I wanted to ask you about your musical interests
> outside TD. I mean, the music
> which is really different from the TD style (unlike
> AirSculpture RMI etc).
> That's because of two reasons:
>
> 1) After about two years of listening to ONLY TD some
> kind of breakthrough
> happened to me a couple of month ago and now my
> musical interests
> are extending very fast; however I still feel TD to be
> the best, but in completely
> different way. So I thought maybe you can recommend me
> something.
>
> 2) I wanted to know the attitude of other TD fans
> about this music I'm
> mostly listening to now, just for interest.
>
> So my new interests include:
>
> KMFDM
> Rammstein
> Sentenced
> Project Pitchfork
> Lacrimosa
>
> BTW I'd recommend the last one for all TD fans.
>
> Regards,
> ArtOfVision
>
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From:
'Robert Asmus'
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 11:49
am
Subject: RE: [tadream] Outside the TD World
Well that would be:
Robin Trower
Joe Satriani
Llewelyn
Ozric Tentacles
Ashra Temple
Hawkind
Trance Music
Good Blues Music
And of course Southern Rock
Robert Asmus
-----Original Message-----
From: ath@d...
[mailto:ath@d...] On Behalf Of Armin Theissen
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 6:34 AM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] Outside the TD World
Ah, that would be
Joe Satriani
Stevie Ray Vaughan
The Can / Holger Czukay
Robben Ford
Paco de Lucia
Sergio and Odair Assad
Aziza Mustafa Zadeh (the first three albums, but live always good)
John Coltrane
Joe Pass
Joe Pass
ah, yes, and Joe Pass
Dave Brubeck
Thelonius Monk
Eric Satie
Ludwig van Beethoven
well, Mozart and Bach are always on the list. We wouldn't have
that much music otherwise
John Cage
Karlheinz 'you know who' ('Mantra' is still my favourite)
and Schulze, of course
Armin
Art Of Vision wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I wanted to ask you about your musical interests
> outside TD. I mean, the music
> which is really different from the TD style (unlike
> AirSculpture RMI etc).
> That's because of two reasons:
>
> 1) After about two years of listening to ONLY TD some
> kind of breakthrough
> happened to me a couple of month ago and now my
> musical interests
> are extending very fast; however I still feel TD to be
> the best, but in completely
> different way. So I thought maybe you can recommend me
> something.
>
> 2) I wanted to know the attitude of other TD fans
> about this music I'm
> mostly listening to now, just for interest.
>
> So my new interests include:
>
> KMFDM
> Rammstein
> Sentenced
> Project Pitchfork
> Lacrimosa
>
> BTW I'd recommend the last one for all TD fans.
>
> Regards,
> ArtOfVision
>
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From:
Dennis Nigbur
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 11:54
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Outside the TD World
On 7 Mar 2003 at 1:28, Art Of Vision wrote:
> I wanted to ask you about your musical interests
> outside TD. I mean, the music
> which is really different from the TD style (unlike
> AirSculpture RMI etc).
Not sure how one can appreciate TD without listening to anything
else...apart from a variety of classical and medieval music (which is a
wonderful thing to listen to), my tastes over the last few years have
involved Jethro Tull, Tori Amos, Frank Black, They Might Be Giants, PJ
Harvey and a smattering of a few others. Don't trust anyone without a
good mixture of interests, musical and otherwise...:-)
Dennis
From:
herold.u@t...
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 12:49
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Outside the TD World
OK - there are:
>Yes
>Jethro Tull
>Gov't Mule
>Can
>Amon Düül
>Embryo
>Neu!
>Kraan
>Ash Ra Temple
>Faust
>Lynyrd Skynyrd
>Allman Brothers
>Telemann
>>>and many others ......
Dream on,
Uwe
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Art Of Vision'
To:
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 10:28 AM
Subject: [tadream] Outside the TD World
> Hi,
>
> I wanted to ask you about your musical interests
> outside TD. I mean, the music
> which is really different from the TD style (unlike
> AirSculpture RMI etc).
> That's because of two reasons:
>
> 1) After about two years of listening to ONLY TD some
> kind of breakthrough
> happened to me a couple of month ago and now my
> musical interests
> are extending very fast; however I still feel TD to be
> the best, but in completely
> different way. So I thought maybe you can recommend me
> something.
>
> 2) I wanted to know the attitude of other TD fans
> about this music I'm
> mostly listening to now, just for interest.
>
> So my new interests include:
>
> KMFDM
> Rammstein
> Sentenced
> Project Pitchfork
> Lacrimosa
>
> BTW I'd recommend the last one for all TD fans.
>
> Regards,
> ArtOfVision
>
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>
From:
'billythefish01'
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 1:29
pm
Subject: Re: Astoria Photos
These are almost exactly the views I was getting. You must have been
standing just to my left!
BTF
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From:
Stefan Brenner
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 9:34
am
Subject: I Still haven´t found
Hi all you out there!!!
I have a problem, i hade the movie Shy people on
video.
But my VCR destroyd it :(
I´m now looking for it on a VCD, can some one help me.
Contact me of the list.
'And some other movies'
Regards Stefan from Sweden
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Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 8:16
am
Subject: Paul Lawler email address?
Hi dear list?
I wonder if someone can help me get the email address to Paul Lawler,
the Arcane man?
Best regards Benny
From:
Dennis Nigbur
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 1:54
pm
Subject: Re: Re: [tadream] TD release schedule
On 7 Mar 2003 at 10:57, Antonio Nunes wrote:
> Well, the official TD website says this about 7 Letters:
> 'New studio material by electronic legend Tangerine Dream
> Reveals a different, more intimate side of the band'
I'm not disagreeing with you here! I'd love to think of 7 Letters as the
new direction of studio TD, and the album is definitely more a studio
album than anything else. But I remember reading on several
occasions (please don't ask me to reference sources, I honestly can't
remember) that it wasn't to be considered part of the overarching
development of TD. It was seen as an experiment or excursion, similar
to Inferno.
Dennis
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From:
'Bill Fox'
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 2:01
pm
Subject: EMUSIC Playlist #311 for March 6, 2003
[ Best viewed using a fixed spacing font. ]
EMUSIC is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday
at 11:00 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton,
PA and Phillipsburg, NJ.
Show #311 March 6, 2003.
RECAP:
On this show, I started a month-long focus on Spacecraft, a spacemusic group
originally inspired the the Voyager space probe. The Featured CD at midnight
was 'Spacecraft' on the Lektronic Soundscapes label.
The Vinyl Starter was from the LP 'Forever Blowing Bubbles' by Clearlight on
Virgin Records.
I played the music of vidnaObmana who will play at the next Soundscapes in
Bethlehem, Pennsylvania on April 19. I also played the music of Vir Unis and
James Johnson and Mother Mallard's Portable Masterpiece Co. who will be at
upcoming Gatherings in Philadelphia in April and May.
Spacecraft http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic/playlists/2003/focus03.html#mar
The Soundscapes Concert Series http://soundscapes.us
The Gathering Concert Series http://thegatherings.org
PLAYLIST:
ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label)
======================= ======================== ==============================
11:00 pm
Clearlight Without Words Forever Blowing Bubbles
(Virgin)
Mother Mallard's Train 1970-1973 (Cuneiform)
Portable Masterpiece Co.
vidnaObmana and The Fall The Oblique Fusion (none)
Joris De Backer
Vir Unis and Continuous Prehistory 1 Perimeter (In the Bubble Music
James Johnson and Zero Music)
Vir Unis and Continuous Prehistory 2 Perimeter (In the Bubble Music
James Johnson and Zero Music)
Larry Kucharz CyberDusk CyberChoralColors
(International Audiochrome)
Stars of the Lid Mullholland The Tired Sounds of the Stars
of the Lid (Kranky)
Harold Grasskopf Sea of Tranquility Digital Nomad (AMP)
12:00 am
Spacecraft Planetary Orbit Spacecraft (Lektronic Sndscps)
Spacecraft Zero, One Spacecraft (Lektronic Sndscps)
Spacecraft Topo Scan Spacecraft (Lektronic Sndscps)
Spacecraft Transmission Spacecraft (Lektronic Sndscps)
Spacecraft Voyager One Spacecraft (Lektronic Sndscps)
Spacecraft Satellite Dispatch Spacecraft (Lektronic Sndscps)
Spacecraft Destination: Infinity Spacecraft (Lektronic Sndscps)
1:00 am
* = exerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)
NEXT SHOW:
On the next EMUSIC, I'll continue the month-long focus on Spacecraft. The
Featured CD at Midnight will be 'Hummel' on the Lektronic Soundscapes label.
The vinyl show starter will be from the LP 'Between Contemplation,' an LP put
out by the German radio show 'Between' on Wero Records.
I will also play the music of vidnaObmana, Vir Unis, and James Johnson who will
be appearing at local concerts in April.
Bill
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Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at
11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and
Phillipsburg. http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic All times are GMT-5:00
Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN
To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, go to
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emusic-wdiy and click on [Join This Group!]
Host of the AM/FM Show on WMUH Allentown 91.7 FM every other Saturday at 6 am.
Host of Afterglow on WMUH every Thursday morning from 8:00 to 9:30.
http://soundscapes.us/~bill/amfm http://soundscapes.us/~bill/afterglow
Listen on-line to WMUH at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click REAL AUDIO
Personal site: http://soundscapes.us/~bill All times are GMT-5:00
SOUNDSCAPES Concert Series: http://soundscapes.us
From:
tadreaming@c...
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 2:07
pm
Subject: Re: Outside the world of Tangerine Dream
Hello,
I listen to:
Klaus Schulze
Alio Die
vidnaObmana
Patrick O'Hearn
Steve Roach
Robert Rich
Vir Unis
Jeff Greinke
Shinjuku Thief/Filth/Darrin Verhagen
Vangelis
Ashra
Roedelius/Moebius/Cluster
Conrad Schnitzler
Pink Floyd
Yes/Jon Anderson
Genesis/Hackett/Gabriel/Ant Phillips
Van Der Graaf Generator
ELP
Tim Story
Jonn Serrie
Grobschnitt
Stan Ridgway
Wall Of Voodoo
Police
Devo
Bee Gees
Fleetwood Mac
Deep Purple
Black Sabbath/Ozzy
Iron Maiden
Rippingtons
Jon Anderson
Enya
King Crimson/Fripp
California Guitar Trio
Beatles
Trace
Triumvirat
Jean Michel Jarre
On and On... Love all the music
Martyn Capel
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From:
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Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 2:21
pm
Subject: re digipackaging
a work around for digipackaging is a thin sheet of cardboard and a rubber
band--certainly not attractive, but it 'preserves' the cover and your discs
won't fall out.....until you try to open it. heh!
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From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 2:26
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Outside the TD World
>Steve Roach has a very ambient style and rarely
>reminds TD or others. Tough I've heard that his
>earlier albums are similar to TD and Schulze with all
>the sequences and stuff like that, today his style is
>very moody, dark and breezy. I have only two albums so
>I can recommend only them: The Live Archive
>(collection of very dark live pieces...) and Lost
>Pieces (contains rare tracks between 1988-1992 if I
>remember correctly).
>
>Regards,
>Marko Marin
The bands mr. Art of Vision listed were mostly unknown to me (with the
exception of Rammstein), but I have on a sampler a great Steve Roach track
called Growth Sequence - I find it remarkably similar to Silver Scale, so it
must be one of those earlier ones.
My musical taste covers mainly, but not only, instrumental music. Here's
some non-electronic artists I like (In order of diminishing interest):
-Pekka Pohjola, a Finnish bassist who composes excellent
jazzy-symphonic-progressive-instrumental-rock, or, as he calls it, 'heavy
jazz'. About the only reason I like TD slightly better than him is that TD
has more material. ;-)
-The not-so-drasticly minimalistic works of Philip Glass... do I need to
introduce him?
-Zodiak, an underground disco-rock band from the 80s Soviet Union
-Mike Oldfield... or wait, he doesn't qualify as 'different', does he?
-Kimmo Pohjonen, an avant garde accordion artist
-Hector
-Le Ormé
-Wishborne Ash
-Maria Kalaniemi
-Juice Leskinen
John Vertical
np: Pekka Pohjola - Urban Caravan (love the guitar solo!)
(oh, and Marko, the spelling is 'though' with two h's)
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From:
Marion Horrod
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 2:30
pm
Subject: Re: Outside the TD World
You asked for it!
(Groupings are purely subjective.)
Mozart, Bach, Teleman, Vivaldi, medieval plainsong
Led Zeppelin, Emerson Lake & Palmer, Captain Beefheart, Page & Plant, Peter
Gabriel, Pink Floyd, The Doors
Ry Cooder, JJ Cale, Tom Paxton, Lonnie Donegan, The Dubliners
World music, particularly African and Arabic
Shamen, Leftfield, Aphex Twin, early techno
... and my guilty secret, The Pet Shop Boys.
That just about describes the third of my CDs that aren't EM.
LnH
Marion
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to be ...' S. Blakemore
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From:
Antonio Nunes
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 2:34
pm
Subject: Re: Re: [tadream] TD release schedule
Dennis Nigbur wrote:
>
> I'm not disagreeing with you here! I'd love to think of 7 Letters as the
> new direction of studio TD, and the album is definitely more a studio
> album than anything else. But I remember reading on several
> occasions (please don't ask me to reference sources, I honestly can't
> remember) that it wasn't to be considered part of the overarching
> development of TD. It was seen as an experiment or excursion, similar
> to Inferno.
Yes, I remember reading something like that too. But, there were other albums
in the past also seen as experiments. I'm thinking of 'Green Desert' which was
such an experiment that they decided not to release it at the time, or
'Cyclone' which they seem to consider an unsuccessful experiment (not for me, I
like Cyclone a lot), or of course 'Inferno', as you mention.
Antonio Nunes
From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 2:34
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] TT3 artwork
While we're on the topic:
What is that apparatus in the left edge of the vol. 19 liner middle opening
picture supposed to be? It looks like a 2nd Chris Franke head to me...!?
John Vertical
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From:
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Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 2:02
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Outside the TD World
Apart from Berlin School and various electronic music (which makes about 90
% of all what I am listening to) it would be:
Mike Oldfield
Philip Glass
Marillion (with Fish)
Some black metal stuff (like for example Cradle of Filth)
Movie Soundtracks (mainly James Horner)
Greetings
Michal Moroz
From:
Stefan Brenner
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 10:22
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Outside the TD World
Die hard electronicmusic fan, i am :)
Avant garde (Sweden)
Die Form
Covenant (Sweden)
R Lundsten
Old_field
Kitaro
Nova V/S Peru
Mobile Homes (Sweden)
Neu
And many more
Electronica, EBM, SynthPOP, in diffrent way..
Stefan
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From:
'Mat Mckenzie'
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 10:11
am
Subject: RE: [tadream] Outside the TD World
Hi
This is a huge topic! and no doubt the members of the group will be listing
thousands of musical references so I thought I'd add my comments too.......Lets
face it however big a fan of any group you are you can't listen to only them
24/7 you'd go mad!
1)
Probably my most influential 'early' works were:
TD-Ricochet
Vangelis-China
Kraftwerk-The Man Machine / Trans Europe Express
Jean Michel Jarre- Equinoxe / Oxygene
Depeche Mode- A Broken Frame
Pink Floyd-Dark Side of the Moon
Tubeway Army-Are Friends Electric? (single)
The Police-Regatta De Blanc
From this lot onwards I have enjoyed all the styles of EM from Ambient, pure
EM, German Techno, dance through to Industrial
I must admit to having swerved away from pure EM for a few years as I felt the
market was bland compared to what many unusual dance / ambient groups were
coming up with, but I have come full circle again enjoying things that Mark
Shreeve is coming up with under the guise of Redshift
If I had to list non TD like faves, off the top of my head they may include:
Steve Roach
Orbital
Global Communication
Chicane
Time Modem
Intermix (aka Delerium / Front Line Assembly etc)
TALLA 2XLC
DJ Taucher
Severed Heads
New Musik
Mark Dwane
Bent
Neuronium
Abfahrt hinwil
Lackluster
Hardcorps
Royksopp
Blue States
Most recent find is an album called Instinct by Mandalay - lush!
A more comprehensive list of faves can be found on my website
http://www.hypnoticbeats.co.uk/
2)
Re your list I've only heard of KMFDM & Project Pitchfork - isn't that
industrial ??
Look forward to other members lists!
Mat
-----Original Message-----
From: Art Of Vision [mailto:artofvision01@y...]
Sent: 07 March 2003 09:28
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] Outside the TD World
Hi,
I wanted to ask you about your musical interests
outside TD. I mean, the music
which is really different from the TD style (unlike
AirSculpture RMI etc).
That's because of two reasons:
1) After about two years of listening to ONLY TD some
kind of breakthrough
happened to me a couple of month ago and now my
musical interests
are extending very fast; however I still feel TD to be
the best, but in completely
different way. So I thought maybe you can recommend me
something.
2) I wanted to know the attitude of other TD fans
about this music I'm
mostly listening to now, just for interest.
So my new interests include:
KMFDM
Rammstein
Sentenced
Project Pitchfork
Lacrimosa
BTW I'd recommend the last one for all TD fans.
Regards,
ArtOfVision
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From:
Jonathan Holt
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 3:37
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Outside the TD World
Martin,
I'm glad someone else remembers how wonderful Madness
were/are. Any chance you can persuade E & J to cover
'One Step Beyond'? -Edgar could do the shout-out and
Jerome could do the Madness 'knees-up' dance (I can'
remember what it's called!).... Ask them - you never
know!!!?!
Cheers!
Grewupinthe1980sjonnyboy
--- TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak
wrote: > OK, here we go...
>
> Martin´s musical favorites outside the TD world:
> - The Church
> - The Mission
> - Bauhaus / Peter Murphy / Tones on Tail
> - Japan
> - Fields of the Nephilim
> - All About Eve
> - Comsat Angels
> - Psychedelic Furs
> - The Cure
> - Depeche Mode
> - Peter Gabriel (and his works w. Genesis)
> - David Bowie
> - Bryan Ferry/ Roxy Music
> - Marillion (w. Fish)
> - Madness
> - Anathema
> and... most recently Porcupine Tree ('In Absentia'
> is a masterpiece IMO)
>
> ...and much more, of course... ;-)
>
> Jeez, gotta dive back into my piles of work now...
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Martin Kasprzak
> TDI- Music- Support.
> Tel:-49-30-23620995
> Fax:-49-30-23620996
>
> Visit our Website at:
>
> http://www.tangerinedream.org
>
>
>
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>
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Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 3:38
pm
Subject: Re: Re: [tadream] TD release schedule
Speaking of Inferno. When is the next part of the
trilog coming out?
--- Dennis Nigbur wrote: >
It was seen as an experiment or
> excursion, similar
> to Inferno.
>
> Dennis
>
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From:
'Roger Hartopp'
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 2:54
pm
Subject: Re: Outside the TD World
Okay, been in lurk mode for too long, so here's my list...
Art of Noise
The Beatles
Ian Boddy
Clannad
ELP (up to 'Brain Salad Surgery')
Enya
Jean Michel Jarre
Kraftwerk
Paul Lawler
New Order
Gary Numan (1980 only) and Tubeway Army
Mike Oldfield
The Orb
Pet Shop Boys
Andy pickford
Pink Floyd
Propaganda
REM
Mark Shreeve
The Stranglers
Vangelis
Plus Holst's 'The Planets' - a piece of music that is absolutely brilliant -
sounds like music composed by our current EM performers but simply orchestrated
- recommended even if you're not a fan of classical music
PLUS... The UK's 'Classic FM' is actually really easy to listen to, and to
enjoy, and if you have the UK's Sky satellite, there are some interesting
videos on Classic FM TV, many of them wouldn't be amiss as New Age or
electronic.
Dislikes? Shall I be controversial? Risk the wrath of Schulze fans? Okay then...
Sorry, but I find his music too repetitive, directionless and lacking in
melody. And when he does come up with a tune - Der Optimismus from 'Trailer',
which my wife really likes, we suddenly discover it's been cribbed from
somewhere else - in this case, Chopin's 'Ballad for Piano No.1 in G minor,
B66/op.23'.
Getting the firehose ready... ;-)
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From:
Jonathan Holt
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 3:47
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Outside the TD World
I can't resist:
Frank Zappa w/ and w/out Mothers Of Invention
Depeche Mode
Iron Maiden (Rock In Rio got me back into them after
10 years away)
Coldplay
The Music
Corporation Blend
Tool
Blur & Gorillaz
Ash
David Bowie
Pink Floyd
Kate Bush
The Who (why Pete why?!)
Genesis / Peter Gabriel (f**kin bald hippy I am)
Manic Street Preachers
Ian Dury & The Blockheads
Supergrass (gonna see them on Sunday)
Coral
etc etc etc
And Marion, 'I Want To Wake Up' from 'Actually' is a
masterpiece - as is that whole album.
Cherrrrrrrssssss!
Jonnyboy.
--- Marion Horrod wrote: >
You asked for it!
> (Groupings are purely subjective.)
>
> Mozart, Bach, Teleman, Vivaldi, medieval plainsong
> Led Zeppelin, Emerson Lake & Palmer, Captain
> Beefheart, Page & Plant, Peter
> Gabriel, Pink Floyd, The Doors
> Ry Cooder, JJ Cale, Tom Paxton, Lonnie Donegan, The
> Dubliners
> World music, particularly African and Arabic
> Shamen, Leftfield, Aphex Twin, early techno
> ... and my guilty secret, The Pet Shop Boys.
>
> That just about describes the third of my CDs that
> aren't EM.
>
> LnH
>
> Marion
>
> 'The glass is neither half full or half empty. It's
> twice the size it needs
> to be ...' S. Blakemore
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From:
'billythefish01'
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 4:11
pm
Subject: Re: Outside the TD World
I too am not a great fan of KS - although I have most of the albums.
Although they vary in terms of the actual sequences and intonation,
they all appear to be the same chord sequences and overall
structure, with a few exceptions (Audentity for example). This sort
of thing is nice to listen to until the first key change, and then I
get fatigue.
What do I like?
In order of preference:
Cocteau Twins
Aphex Twin
Future Sound of London / Amorphous Androgynous
Plaid / Black Dog
Banco de Gaia
Ozric Tentacles / Eat Static
The Orb
Orbital
William Orbit (O is one of my favourite parts of HMV)
Hector Zazou
Cabaret Voltaire / Richard H. Kirk
Pink Floyd
Sven Vath
Soft Machine
and many others that I will later wish I have mentioned...
BTF
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Roger Hartopp' wrote:
> Okay, been in lurk mode for too long, so here's my list...
> Dislikes? Shall I be controversial? Risk the wrath of Schulze
fans? Okay then...
>
> Sorry, but I find his music too repetitive, directionless and
lacking in melody. And when he does come up with a tune - Der
Optimismus from 'Trailer', which my wife really likes, we suddenly
discover it's been cribbed from somewhere else - in this case,
Chopin's 'Ballad for Piano No.1 in G minor, B66/op.23'.
>
> Getting the firehose ready... ;-)
>
> Roger Hartopp
>
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From:
'Pergamon'
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 5:00
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Madness
And change the cool sax to the alien seagull-sound.....=O)...
Jan
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Jonathan Holt'
To:
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Outside the TD World
> Martin,
>
> I'm glad someone else remembers how wonderful Madness
> were/are. Any chance you can persuade E & J to cover
> 'One Step Beyond'? -Edgar could do the shout-out and
> Jerome could do the Madness 'knees-up' dance (I can'
> remember what it's called!).... Ask them - you never
> know!!!?!
>
>
> Cheers!
> Grewupinthe1980sjonnyboy
>
>
> --- TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak
> wrote: > OK, here we go...
> >
> > Martin´s musical favorites outside the TD world:
> > - The Church
> > - The Mission
> > - Bauhaus / Peter Murphy / Tones on Tail
> > - Japan
> > - Fields of the Nephilim
> > - All About Eve
> > - Comsat Angels
> > - Psychedelic Furs
> > - The Cure
> > - Depeche Mode
> > - Peter Gabriel (and his works w. Genesis)
> > - David Bowie
> > - Bryan Ferry/ Roxy Music
> > - Marillion (w. Fish)
> > - Madness
> > - Anathema
> > and... most recently Porcupine Tree ('In Absentia'
> > is a masterpiece IMO)
> >
> > ...and much more, of course... ;-)
> >
> > Jeez, gotta dive back into my piles of work now...
> >
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Martin Kasprzak
> > TDI- Music- Support.
> > Tel:-49-30-23620995
> > Fax:-49-30-23620996
> >
> > Visit our Website at:
> >
> > http://www.tangerinedream.org
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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From:
'Sean Montgomery'
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 5:13
pm
Subject: Re: Outside the TD World
I guess I'm something of an anomaly here, in that I really don't
listen to other bands in the 'progressive rock' or 'Berlin School'
categories. Not that I don't like them though...I have very broad
tastes in music.
Ultimately, I've always been more interested in songs than in artists.
Most of the CDs I listen to are compilations, as very few bands
produce CDS that I'm interested in listening to straight through.
But anyway...time to share my dirty laundry. Here are a few musical
artists that I enjoy listening to right now:
The Flaming Lips
Coldplay (although constant radio play is ruining the song 'Clocks'
for me)
Ladytron
Moby
Saint Etienne
Thievery Corporation
Beck
Massive Attack (except for their new album, which is boring!)
The Avalanches
The Chemical Brothers
Orbital
Sigur Ros
David Bowie
DJ Shadow
Cocteau Twins
The Magnetic Fields
New Order
80s retro in general - everything from the Pretenders to The Pixies to
The Smiths to The Human League.
From:
'Pergamon'
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 5:21
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Madness
Ooops, or was it Night Boat to Cairo, I am thinking of.......
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Pergamon'
> And change the cool sax to the alien seagull-sound.....=O)...
>
> Jan
>
From:
'bert_hulshoff'
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 5:32
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Outside the TD World
My Life outside the TD world ?
Well I like:
Schulze
Ashra.
Grobschnitt
Eloy
Hawkwind
Black Sabbath
Uriah Heep
Porcupine Tree
Led Zeppelin
Omega
Novalis
Genesis with Peter Gabriel
The Flower Kings
Groeten
Bert
From:
'fozziebear'
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 6:28
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] TD release schedule
Jonathan Holt said Speaking of Inferno. When is the next part of the
trilog coming out?
Yep, I want to hear it and see the show. TD please perform it in UK
David
From:
'fozziebear'
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 6:35
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] : Outside the TD World
In no particular order:
Fashion
Moby
Scritti Politti
Klaus Schulze
David Bowie
Roxy Music
Marcella Detroit
Patti Smith
Reinhard Lakomy
Adrian Wagner
Navigator
Pond
You
Neil Young
ZZ Top
Dead or Alive
ELP
Tranquility
Baroque stuff generally
Gregorian chant generally
David
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From:
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 6:54
pm
Subject: Re: Re: Re: [tadream] TD release schedule
.... what about this view:
the (so-called) 'experiments' have always been a part of the nature of the
group - so no need to see them 'off-road'. On the contrary: no development
without experiments.
Jörg
tadream@yahoogroups.com schrieb am 07.03.03 15:35:00:
>
>
> Dennis Nigbur wrote:
> >
> > I'm not disagreeing with you here! I'd love to think of 7 Letters as the
> > new direction of studio TD, and the album is definitely more a studio
> > album than anything else. But I remember reading on several
> > occasions (please don't ask me to reference sources, I honestly can't
> > remember) that it wasn't to be considered part of the overarching
> > development of TD. It was seen as an experiment or excursion, similar
> > to Inferno.
>
>
> Yes, I remember reading something like that too. But, there were other albums
in the past also seen as experiments. I'm thinking of 'Green Desert' which was
such an experiment that they decided not to release it at the time, or
'Cyclone' which they seem to consider an unsuccessful experiment (not for me, I
like Cyclone a lot), or of course 'Inferno', as you mention.
>
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From:
thomas.soucheleau@n...
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 10:59
pm
Subject: Outside the TD World
What good disciplined fans we are, doing a free market study for TDI! :)
As far as I'm concerned, main bands/composers other than TD that get the most
plays are Orbital, Garbage, Toru Takemitsu, Philip Glass and a bit of Berg and
Mike Oldfield
Then, a bit of Jarre, Satriani, Moby, Vangelis, Enya, Pink Floyd, Ashra, Glenn
Branca, Alan Parsons or Ryuichi Sakamoto don't hurt.
And of course, as he's no longer in TD, let's not forget Chris Franke. :)
Thomas.
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From:
Antonio Nunes
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 7:14
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] : Outside the TD World
By alphabetical order:
Arcane / Max Van Richter
Beethoven
Delerium (up to the album 'Semantic Spaces')
Enigma
Enya
Eric Snelders
Free System Projekt
Jean Michel Jarre
John Dyson / Wavestar
Kitaro
Kraftwerk
Mike Andrews
Mike Oldfield
Mind Over Matter
Nova / Peru
Patrick O'Hearn
Peter Mergener / Software
Pink Floyd
Pyramid Peak
Rainbow Serpent
Redshift
Rick Wakeman (albums from the 70's)
Robert Fox
Under The Dome
Vangelis
--Antonio Nunes
From:
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 8:11
pm
Subject: RE: Outside the TD World
Is there really Life OUTSIDE the World of TD?
Well, lets see:
Airsculpture
Ash Ra Temple
Beatles
Big Bad Voodoo Daddy
Bond (The Female String Quartet)
Michael Card
Clapton!!!
Phil Collins
Deep Forest
Constance Demby
Eiffel 65
Enigma
Falco
Bela Fleck & the Flecktones
Chris Franke
Frankie Goes to Hollywood
Pater Gabriel
Genesis
David Gilmour
Steve Hackett
Etta James
JMJ
Jethro Tull
Elton John
Billy Joel
Steve Jolliffe
Diana Krull
David Lanz
Herbie MannMars Lasar
Max Lasser's Ark
Mannheim Steanroller
Moodswings
Van Morrison
Mike Oldfield
Orb
Alan Parsons
P!NK
Pink Floyd
Elvis
SRV
Rush
Santana
Scatman John
Schmoelling
KS
Paul Schwartz
Brian Setzer Orchestra
Spies
Sweetbottom
Van Halen
Vanessa-Mae
Tom Waits
Rick Wakeman
Joe Walsh
Roger Waters
Wavestar
The Who
George Winston
Yes
So, I guess that just about covers it. Apart for the Classical, which is
another list all together, and the odd ball recording here and there.
Does this count as having a world outside of TD?
Thanks
In God's Love
Neal
'You can't take it with you -
but you CAN send it on ahead - Give.'
Pastor Tom Mullins
From:
'Gary Jenkins'
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 8:24
pm
Subject: Schulze
Dislikes? Shall I be controversial? Risk the wrath of Schulze fans?
Okay then...
Sorry, but I find his music too repetitive, directionless and lacking
in
melody.
Totally agree with you Roger I have always found his music boring.
I am glad I am not the only one here who dislikes his music.
Gary
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From:
Robert Grabowsky
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 8:34
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Schulze
Have you guys tried the Darkside of the Moog series or Are You Sequenced?
THE HIGHLANDER aka a Klaus Schulze fan
At 08:24 PM 3/7/03 -0000, you wrote:
>Dislikes? Shall I be controversial? Risk the wrath of Schulze fans?
>Okay then...
>
>Sorry, but I find his music too repetitive, directionless and lacking
>in
>melody.
>
>Totally agree with you Roger I have always found his music boring.
>I am glad I am not the only one here who dislikes his music.
>
>Gary
From:
'Gary Jenkins'
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 8:39
pm
Subject: Re Outside the TD world
90% of my listening is some kind of Electronic music which I won't
mention here you can check out my website for that and get me over
1000 hits just 5 to go lol.
Although over the years I have built a large collection of CD's there
is a lot I never play any more so my list is small.
Chris Rea
Gerry Rafferty
David Gray
Madonna
Ozric Tentacles (just discovered them)Thanks to Colin.
Cheers Gary
www.hyperborea.v21net.co.uk
From:
David Butler
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 8:52
pm
Subject: Latest Thread
While I used to post a bit more to this list than I do
now, this topic peaked my interest. 'What do you
listen to other than TD'? Everyones musical choices
are somewhat alike. Thanks to Martyn for listing King
Crimson, I thought I was the only one who actually
liked them. Seeing Robert Fripp and Adrian Belew play
live must be experienced. They actually play their
instruments, rather than getting on stage and starting
the hard disc. Now I don't want to get off on a rant
here. Another thanks to Roger for listing Art of
Noise. I remember the days when I had over 700 CD's to
listen to, but those days are gone. I have a crappy
sounding, barely working AM radio in my truck, and you
don't hear much TD on AM radio. I still have a few
CD's and the one that I listen to the most is the
soundtrack to the original Star Wars. Another CD that
I really enjoy is Icehouse, Measure for Measure. I
would be listening to more TD, but my collection is
now limited to about 4 CD's and a few fantapes that
sound really bad. Someone was supposed to send
me...blah blah blah. Okay I'm done....David
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From:
David Butler
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 9:35
pm
Subject: Other ravings...
'I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during
my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify
your species. I realized that you're not actually
mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively
develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding
environment, but you humans do not. You move to an
area, and you multiply, and multiply, until every
natural resource is consumed. The only way you can
survive is to spread to another area. There is another
organism on this planet that follows the same pattern.
A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this
planet, you are a plague, and we are the cure.'
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From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 10:07
pm
Subject: DSOM (was: Schulze)
The entire Dark Side of the Moog series KICKS ASS!
Pete Namlook has a GREAT sense of ambience. Mixed with Klaus' Moog sounds
and melodies, there's no stopping them. Bill Lasswell lends a hand on
several of the albums as well.
If you want a '70's' style sequencer fest with modern sound quality, some
nice innovative percussion, and even a little 'groove', check out the first
track on DSOM 9 (the latest in the series). Turn out the lights, turn up
the volume, and take a 20 minute ride through this mellow, evocative
soundscape. It's full of rich moog sounds, spacey reverb effects,
groovin'-yet-unobtrusive beats. My pulse rises when that sequencer line
comes to the front. And when I finally hear that thick Moog 'trumpet cry'
at the end, I'm thinking 'was it as good for you as it was for me...?'
All I can say is, check it out. This is anything but repetitive and
directionless. I consider this one of the best pieces of electronic music
in the old 'Berlin School' style since Ricochet!
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Grabowsky [mailto:hghlndr@t...]
>
> Have you guys tried the Darkside of the Moog series or Are
> You Sequenced?
>
> At 08:24 PM 3/7/03 -0000, you wrote:
> >
> >Totally agree with you Roger I have always found his music boring.
> >I am glad I am not the only one here who dislikes his music.
> >
> >Gary
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From:
'Colin Jouxson'
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 10:26
pm
Subject: Outside The TD World
Hello All
Theres so many bands that have given me listening pleasure over the
years,but TD are of course my number one.Heres a list of personal
favorites.
Ozric Tentacles
Rainbow Serpent
Steve Hillage(System 7)
Hawkwind
Keith Emerson(ELP)
Mark Jenkins
Don Van Vliet(Captain Beefheart)Big Eyed Beans From Venus.
Frank Zappa
Orbital
Patrick Moraz
Robert Fripp(King Crimson)
Yes(The Gates Of Delirium)
Kraftwerk
Chuck Van Zyl
Theres so many more,but these are favs.
Best regards
Colin.
Pink Floyd(Ummagumma)
From:
'Colin Jouxson'
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 10:33
pm
Subject: Outside The TD World(again).
How could i possibly forget the great Welsh Psychodelic rockers MAN.
Awesome band.
From:
Eric Williamson
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 10:49
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] DSOM (was: Schulze)
Quoting 'Owens, James' :
> The entire Dark Side of the Moog series KICKS ASS!
i agree. pete/vs/klaus and redshift seem to be doing a very good job of
realising the spirit of the 70s teutonic-textural music within the context of
the 21st century.
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From:
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Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 11:02
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Outside the TD World
In a message dated 3/7/03 4:28:42 AM, artofvision01@y... writes:
>So my new interests include:
>
>KMFDM
>Rammstein
>Sentenced
>Project Pitchfork
>Lacrimosa
Project Pitchfork! Yes! They're an outstanding band. Their recent trilogy
('Inferno,' 'View from a Throne,' 'Trialog') is a brilliant work, although it
took a while for me to realize it. Even so, I might still like 'Daimonion'
better. Can't go wrong with them.
As for the other stuff I listen to, some of my all-time favorite bands
include Dead Can Dance, Dream Theater, Massive Attack (and I disagree with
Sean's opinion of their latest album), the Orb, Orbital, Front 242, and Tears
for Fears. Bands likely to make their way onto that list in the near future
include King's X and Spock's Beard. And I'm sure I forgot some.
Beyond those core favorites, I tend to go through phases in which I focus
extensively on one genre. For instance, during my space-rock phase I was
really into Pressurehed and their massive web of interrelated side projects.
My techno/trance phase was anchored by Juno Reactor. Currently I'm caught
between a prog/power-metal phase (Blind Guardian, Symphony X, Edguy), a
long-standing industrial-dance/synth-pop phase (VNV Nation, Covenant,
Apoptygma Berzerk, Icon of Coil...), and what looks to be a budding
alternative hip-hop phase (Jurassic 5 and their ilk). I'm also getting into
Japanese pop (Ayumi Hamasaki, Puffy AmiYumi) as a result of having been in
Japan last semester.
I have an ever-growing list of albums I think everyone should have. If
anyone's interested, it's at: http://www.quarlie.com/lists/list.php?list=6
--Daniel
NP: King's X - Tape Head
From:
quarlie@a...
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 11:05
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Outside the TD World
In a message dated 3/7/03 4:42:04 AM, martin@t... writes:
>and... most recently Porcupine Tree ('In Absentia' is a masterpiece IMO)
Oh yes. I totally agree. I can't say enough about that album. It's
mind-bending.
Martin, have you listened to Opeth? Their last few albums were produced by
Steven Wilson from Porcupine Tree. It's very good stuff, although I could
probably do without the death growling. :)
--Daniel
NP: still King's X - Tape Head
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From:
'Kevin Ball'
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 12:27
am
Subject: RE: [tadream] Outside the TD World
In no particular order :-
Saga - Saw them tonight at the Mean Fiddler in London. They were absolutely
diamond!
Vangelis
OMD
The Blue Nile
Hue & Cry
Hall & Oates
Camel
Pat Metheny
Joshua Kadison
John Farnham
Steve Winwood
Talk Talk
After The Fire
New Musik
Big Country
Del Amitri
Eloy
Everything But The Girl
Michael Franks
Bruce Hornsby
Kraftwerk
La Düsseldorf
Marillion
Radio Massacre International
Donald Fagan
... and my first favourite band - The Sweet.
From:
'Glenn Folkvord \(Hyperion Media\)'
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 1:47
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Outside the TD World
Everyone loves to talk about their own interests! LOL :-)
Outside TD I listen to, for example:
Erasure
Pet Shop Boys
Sigmund Groven
Vangelis
Jean Michel Jarre
Kraftwerk
Laserdance (...and brave enough to admit it!!)
Lots of classical music
Everything from the Origo Sound label
Sandra
John Williams OSTs
Mike Oldfield
Glenn
From:
'Adele Outland'
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 1:53
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Outside the TD World
I thought he meant REALLY DIFFERENT! Here's another ladies point of view:
Jimmy Buffett
Dr John
Mendelssohn
Blackmores/Night
Uriah Heep
Fleetwood Mac
Crosby,Stills,Nash,and Young together or separately
Dolly Parton
Oh gee, there's other artists I like from time to time, but not to listen to
hours each day, like I do TD. 8-Dell
All IMO of course.
NP: Seven Letters from Tibet: thanks to the list for the suggestion
As time slips into memory, memory fades into dreams.
>From: Marion Horrod
>Reply-To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
>To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [tadream] Re: Outside the TD World
>Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 14:30:25 +0000
>
>You asked for it!
>(Groupings are purely subjective.)
>
>Mozart, Bach, Teleman, Vivaldi, medieval plainsong
>Led Zeppelin, Emerson Lake & Palmer, Captain Beefheart, Page & Plant, Peter
>Gabriel, Pink Floyd, The Doors
>Ry Cooder, JJ Cale, Tom Paxton, Lonnie Donegan, The Dubliners
>World music, particularly African and Arabic
>Shamen, Leftfield, Aphex Twin, early techno
>... and my guilty secret, The Pet Shop Boys.
>
>That just about describes the third of my CDs that aren't EM.
>
>LnH
>
>Marion
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From:
Gustavo Jobim
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 3:33
am
Subject: RE: [tadream] Outside the TD World
Hmm! I always like these threads.
Let's see. Apart from TD (and I've barely heard any TD at all the last few
months), I like to listen to and have been influenced by:
J.S.Bach
Mahler
Beethoven
Stravinsky
Vivaldi
Carl Orff
Edgard Varèse
Philip Glass
Dvorák
Steve Reich
Green Day
Radiohead
Nine Inch Nails
Weezer
J.M.Jarre
Vangelis
Can
Kraftwerk
Kluster, Cluster (has anyone got Klopfzeichen?
would really like to hear that. only have Zwei-Osterei)
Ash Ra Tempel, M.Göttsching
Klaus Schulze
Enya
Laurie Anderson
Faust
Agitation Free
Harmonia
Heldon
Synergy
Focus
King Crimson
Änglagård
Kaipa
Anekdoten
Sigur Rós
Pär Lindh Project
Museo Rosenbach
Trans Am
Tortoise
Trettioåriga Kriget
Wallenstein
Solaris
Mike Oldfield
Tako (brilliant Yugoslavian prog band)
Modrý Efekt (brilliant Czech prog band)
Synkopy (another brilliant Czech prog band)
Älgarnas Trädgård (very interesting experimental-prog-psychedwhatever
Swedish group)
Brazilian people:
Hermeto Pascoal (makes music out of everything, from flute to his own beard)
Uakti (ensemble which creates their own unique instruments)
Tom Zé (began working around people like Caetano Veloso and Gilberto Gil,
created his own unique style, usually with experimental touches)
Quaterna Réquiem (one of the top prog rock bands here)
Sensorial Estéreo (4 year old band I've just joined; 6 creative musicians
making an amazing blend of rock, krautrock and experimental music, with two
guitars, bass, drums, violin, voice and now my synth. mindblowing stuff.)
Gustavo Jobim (I worked very hard to make an album I love to listen to,
Round Mi. not to mention the previous quasi-albums and tracks and various
experiments. been brewing the second album... the hard work will begin
tonight if I have the time. electronic-orchestral-symphonic stuff.
sometimes dense, sometimes spacy, usually trippy.)
------
Gustavo Jobim
http://www.gustavojobim.hpg.com.br
gustavojobim@s...
From:
Gustavo Jobim
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 3:38
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Latest Thread
>Thanks to Martyn for listing King Crimson, I thought I was the only one
>who actually liked them.
no way, check out also my list! :)
long live the King! :)
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http://www.gustavojobim.hpg.com.br
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From:
Gustavo Jobim
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 3:44
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Schulze
>Dislikes? Shall I be controversial? Risk the wrath of Schulze fans?
>Okay then...
>Sorry, but I find his music too repetitive, directionless and lacking in
>melody.
heheheh!
I have no problem reading that (Schulze is one of my teachers), because you
just said what Schulze's music is mainly about, really. Repetitive, endless
- often, 'beginning-less' and 'middle-less' too -, nonmelodic, except for
extremely rare moments such as Ludwig II von Bayern, the Audentity
period... I'm really not sure about why I'm so enchanted by his music.
>Totally agree with you Roger I have always found his music boring.
So far the only works I found really boring were the outrageously long and
static tracks from the last few years (in CW1, CW2), which are most of his
work. It's really hard to listen to. I always have to be doing something else.
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From:
Morgan Feldon
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 4:37
am
Subject: Re: Klaus Schulze
I'm skipping thru the annual/ritual 'Who do we listen to other than TD?'
messages. Seen it enough times in the last few years. Anyway, I wanted to
respond to...
>Dislikes? Shall I be controversial? Risk the wrath of Schulze fans?
>Okay then...
>Sorry, but I find his music too repetitive, directionless and lacking in
>melody.
I did not like KS at all at first. I dragged myself thru a few albums after
others insisting that it was God's gift to EM. KS can take a 5 minute
musical idea and stretch it out to 45 minutes. It's almost an artform.
Think of the Ents (trees) in Lord of the Rings talking for days about 1 topic.
Before you summarily give up, acquire/borrow Demo Session '1975, Historic
Edition, and Are you Sequenced.
-Morgan
From:
'P.M. Dierking'
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 5:51
am
Subject: Re: Outside the TD world
Don't forget the (first?) synth band ever, Lothar and the Hand People. If you
have never experienced someone playing lead theremin, you just haven't lived.
http://www.lotharandthehandpeople.com/
Just a few other fringe tastes:
anything with Franco Corelli singing, Frank Marino and Mahogany Rush, Blue
Cheer, Pentatonik, and Q-Tip
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From:
william dennehy
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 11:42
pm
Subject: Life outside TD
What about Paul Schutze?
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From:
'Derek Hicks'
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 11:30
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Astoria Photos
Hi BTF
Its a small world isnt it !
Yes I was standing at the end of the balcony - quite a good view I thought.
Have you seen the video clip yet taken from the same spot ? This can be
located on the 'Files' page of the Yahoo Tadream site.
Best wishes
Derek
----- Original Message -----
From: 'billythefish01'
To:
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 1:29 PM
Subject: [tadream] Re: Astoria Photos
> These are almost exactly the views I was getting. You must have been
> standing just to my left!
>
> BTF
From:
Shez
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 4:57
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Outside the TD World
I mainly listen to 80's synthpop / New Wave stuff ex.: John Foxx,
ULtravox, Visage, Human League, etc.
Also I like many (but not all) Giorgio Moroder productions and some
disco stuff.
Also the band Electric Light Orchestra (the only 'rock' band I like
very much
and beside that, Kraftwerk, Vangelis (mostly 70's work), Wendy Carlos,
and some more or less known electro music from the 70's or early 80's.
I rarely listen to recent music.
On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 01:28:09 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I wanted to ask you about your musical interests
>outside TD. I mean, the music
>which is really different from the TD style (unlike
>AirSculpture RMI etc).
>That's because of two reasons:
>
>1) After about two years of listening to ONLY TD some
>kind of breakthrough
>happened to me a couple of month ago and now my
>musical interests
>are extending very fast; however I still feel TD to be
>the best, but in completely
>different way. So I thought maybe you can recommend me
>something.
>
>2) I wanted to know the attitude of other TD fans
>about this music I'm
>mostly listening to now, just for interest.
>
>So my new interests include:
>
>KMFDM
>Rammstein
>Sentenced
>Project Pitchfork
>Lacrimosa
>
>BTW I'd recommend the last one for all TD fans.
>
>Regards,
>ArtOfVision
>
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From:
Shez
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 4:39
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Official Rerelease of JMJ Les Granges brulées
a good news, but this particular JMJ soundtrack is just borring. I
mean the music.
Just my opinion, don't expect much about it if you decide to buy it.
On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 18:21:01 -0000, you wrote:
>One of the very old Soundtracks from Jarre is finally re-issued on the
>official Francis dreyfus music label for a very decent price
>(amazon.fr) and other places. No more need to get your hands on
>counterfeits.
>
>I would hope TD will also try to re-issue a few of their older
>soundtrack material (The man inside etc.).
>
>René
>
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From:
'Mat Mckenzie'
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 3:16
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Outside the TD World
I'm with you on the electronics stephan - call us a 'bit' narrowminded but if
you can put a plug on it I'm likely to like it!
Peru were great - pure sequencer overload with big fat analogue sounds, Kitaro
- well you only really need the Silk Roads dbl to get the idea but that's
superb, Got 1 CDS by Die Form hard techno but great great vocoder - some scary
vocals on some of their releases! do you also like the 80's german Techno stuff
on the Music Research label ? Konzept, Techno La Droga etc & the BOY label -
Hypnopedia etc?
Would be interested to heat what mobile homes are like......
Mat
-----Original Message-----
From: Stefan Brenner [mailto:baron_de_ley@y...]
Sent: 07 March 2003 10:22
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] Outside the TD World
Die hard electronicmusic fan, i am :)
Avant garde (Sweden)
Die Form
Covenant (Sweden)
R Lundsten
Old_field
Kitaro
Nova V/S Peru
Mobile Homes (Sweden)
Neu
And many more
Electronica, EBM, SynthPOP, in diffrent way..
Stefan
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From:
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 8:36
am
Subject: TD release schedule - a DISCOGRAPHY question
Hey everybody,
is there somewehere a site you can recomend, with a good (and complete)
DISCOGRAPHY of TD?
All official releases, (all ROIOS) ?
Maybe with comments (reviews) to the CD's
Thanks for your help
PETE
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From:
pw098@a...
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 10:48
am
Subject: Outside the TD World
Music outside of TD?!
Pink Floyd
Genesis
Yes
Soloists from above
Alan Parsons
Amin Bhatia
Elton John
Kitaro
Mahavishnu Orchestra
Jean Luc Ponty
Camel
Brand X
...
And while I'm out of Deep Lurk Mode ... Dark Side of the Moog is an
Excellent series, at least of what I have listened to (4,5,6,7,8). Does
anyone know where to pick up the rest of the series?
Cheers,
Bob
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From:
Paul Fellows
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 11:42
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] TD release schedule - a DISCOGRAPHY question
on 8/03/03 9:36, pete1962@w... at pete1962@w... wrote:
http://perso.club-internet.fr/pfellows/webpages/index.html
Well if you don't blow your own trumpet :-)
Paul
> Hey everybody,
>
> is there somewehere a site you can recomend, with a good (and complete)
> DISCOGRAPHY of TD?
>
> All official releases, (all ROIOS) ?
>
> Maybe with comments (reviews) to the CD's
>
>
> Thanks for your help
>
> PETE
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From:
'tei waz'
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 12:03
pm
Subject: re outside TD
grateful dead
king crimson/tony levin/robert fripp/adrian belew
ozric tentacles/eat static(planet dog era)/nodens ictus/zuvuya
new order/joy division
TG/chris and cosey/psychic tv
SPK
gong/gilli smyth/daevid allen
steve roach
bill laswell
pink floyd
klaus schulze
the who
the orb
bon scott's ac/dc
emerald web
early simple minds
simon posford
santana
peter gabriel
ashra tempel
loop guru
global communication
steve hillage/system7--wish they'd come around again
juno reactor
the grid
suns of arqa
astralasia
zion train
fsol
devo
the doors
ledzep
double fantasy
thomas fehlmann
lost at last (not the metal band)
the velvet underground
phish
and the list goes on
--T
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From:
'artofvision01'
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 12:04
pm
Subject: Re: Outside the TD World
Hi,
> 2)
> Re your list I've only heard of KMFDM & Project Pitchfork - isn't
that industrial ??
>
> Look forward to other members lists!
> Mat
>
Yes my interest lies mainly in industrial but I'm extending
very fast, in the past month I started moving to the Gothics and
Death Metal.
Art Of Vision
From:
'artofvision01'
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 12:07
pm
Subject: Re: Outside the TD World
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'John Vertical'
wrote:
> The bands mr. Art of Vision listed were mostly unknown to me (with
the
> exception of Rammstein), but I have on a sampler a great Steve
Roach track
> called Growth Sequence - I find it remarkably similar to Silver
Scale, so it
> must be one of those earlier ones.
>
BTW 'Sentenced' is a finnish group (the only one I'm aware of).
It's Death Metal but tends to be more melodic
Regards,
Art
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From:
'Paul Dryden'
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 10:32
am
Subject: Outside the TD World
Mike Oldfield
Red Shift
J-MJ
Kitaro
Kraftwerk
Vangelis
Genesis
Peter Gabriel
BBC Radiophonic Workshop
Pet Shop Boys
Beatles
AC-DC
Pink Flloyd
Queen
Enya
Rick Wakeman
Plus many others, early 80's late 70's bands:
Gary Numan
Ultravox
Human League
Yes
ELO
ELP
OMD
Yello
The list goes on...........
Paulus.d
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From:
'Paul Dryden'
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 10:34
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Other ravings...
The Borg????????? from Star TrekTNG????
Paulus.d
----- Original Message -----
From: 'David Butler'
To:
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 9:35 PM
Subject: [tadream] Other ravings...
> 'I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during
> my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify
> your species. I realized that you're not actually
> mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively
> develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding
> environment, but you humans do not. You move to an
> area, and you multiply, and multiply, until every
> natural resource is consumed. The only way you can
> survive is to spread to another area. There is another
> organism on this planet that follows the same pattern.
> A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this
> planet, you are a plague, and we are the cure.'
>
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From:
'Paul Dryden'
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 10:44
am
Subject: Who Does What
This question comes up quite often on the list.
Which member did what thing in the band!
The only ones Iam sure about is by evidence we all ready know:
Chris Franke spends a lot of time in the 80's in front of an Emulator, probably
dropping in alien seagulls and other noises.
Johhannes improvises alot during pieces and seems to have fun!
Edgar pads chords and melodies in during all the performances.
Any of the rack mounted synths behind all the members could have the sequences
loaded, in realty all these are/were probably chained together, controlled by a
master sequencer.
We will probably never know exacly who did what, but the music produced is
greater than the sum of its parts.
Paulus.d
PS someone gave me a disk of Sonic Foundry's Acid Music Program- any good?
Pity it has no manual and won't load because I have no serial key......
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From:
'Paul Dryden'
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 10:58
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Official Rerelease of JMJ Les Granges brulées
Jean-Michel has had a hard time coming up with something better than
Equinoxe and oxygene in my opinion.
These great works were milestones and got many people listening to EM in the
first place (me,included) but recent CD's I don't think are a patch on these
classics - I mean J-MJ 'singing?'
Paulus.d
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Shez'
To:
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Official Rerelease of JMJ Les Granges brulées
>
> a good news, but this particular JMJ soundtrack is just borring. I
> mean the music.
> Just my opinion, don't expect much about it if you decide to buy it.
>
>
>
> On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 18:21:01 -0000, you wrote:
>
> >One of the very old Soundtracks from Jarre is finally re-issued on the
> >official Francis dreyfus music label for a very decent price
> >(amazon.fr) and other places. No more need to get your hands on
> >counterfeits.
> >
> >I would hope TD will also try to re-issue a few of their older
> >soundtrack material (The man inside etc.).
> >
> >René
> >
> >
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From:
'Paul Dryden'
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 1:05
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Other ravings...
actually it sounds like Q!!!!
Paulus.d
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Paul Dryden'
To:
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Other ravings...
> The Borg????????? from Star TrekTNG????
> Paulus.d
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'David Butler'
> To:
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 9:35 PM
> Subject: [tadream] Other ravings...
>
>
> > 'I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during
> > my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify
> > your species. I realized that you're not actually
> > mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively
> > develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding
> > environment, but you humans do not. You move to an
> > area, and you multiply, and multiply, until every
> > natural resource is consumed. The only way you can
> > survive is to spread to another area. There is another
> > organism on this planet that follows the same pattern.
> > A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this
> > planet, you are a plague, and we are the cure.'
> >
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From:
tom george
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 1:16
pm
Subject: Other Music
Artofvision mentions:
Rammstein-Excellent stuff!
and
Lacrimosa.
If you love Lacrimosa then you most certainly will
like the following:
Tristania
Therion
Nightwish
Lullacry
Tiamat
Theatre of Tragedy
To Die For
Anathema
The Gathering
Lacuna Coil
Ulver
Opeth
Edenbridge
Gitane Demone
and that is just a beginning. Enjoy
Tom
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From:
Jorge Figueiredo
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 1:20
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] : Outside the TD World
Here's my list...
Outside the TD world, but in the same solar system:
Andy Pickford
Bjorn Lynne / Divinorum
David Wright
Dom F. Scab
Enigma
Enya
Eric Snelders
Frank Van Bogaert
Free System Projekt
Future Sound of London
Jean Michel Jarre
John Dyson / Wavestar
Kraftwerk
Mark Shreeve / Redshift
Michael Garrison
Mike Oldfield
Mind~Flux / Fanger & Kersten
Patrick O'Hearn
Paul Lawler / Arcane / Max van Richter
Paul Nagle
Peru / Nova
Pyramid Peak
Robert Fox
Ron Boots
Software / Peter Mergener
Space
Stephan Whitlan
Vangelis
In a far far away galaxy:
Beatles / Paul McCartney
Beethoven
Dire Straits
Fischer-Z
Madredeus
Mozart
Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark
Pink Floyd
My guilty secret:
Kim Wilde :-\
--
Jorge Figueiredo (no that's not part of the list, it's just my name) :-)
((> Classix Nouveaux - La Verité <))
From:
'Glenn Folkvord \(Hyperion Media\)'
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 1:54
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Official Rerelease of JMJ Les Granges brulées
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Paul Dryden'
> Jean-Michel has had a hard time coming up with something better than
> Equinoxe and oxygene in my opinion.
> These great works were milestones and got many people listening to EM in
the
> first place (me,included) but recent CD's I don't think are a patch on
these
> classics
I think it is a failed mindset to expect artists to improve all the time. Is
that the nature of art, to improve on itself? I dont think so, because you
cant really measure improvement. One thing about art is that it must evolve
and provoke, in *any* direction, and if you dont think Jarre has done that
over the years, including Metamorphoses, I dont think you have paid
attention :-)
> - I mean J-MJ 'singing?'
And why not? Just because a painter never used the colour yellow in his
first 12 paintings doesnt mean he cant use it in his next paintings.
Glenn
From:
'Roger Hartopp'
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 1:23
pm
Subject: Re: Klaus Schulze
Morgan said:
I did not like KS at all at first. I dragged myself thru a few albums after
others insisting that it was God's gift to EM. KS can take a 5 minute
musical idea and stretch it out to 45 minutes. It's almost an artform.
Think of the Ents (trees) in Lord of the Rings talking for days about 1
topic.
Before you summarily give up, acquire/borrow Demo Session '1975, Historic
Edition, and Are you Sequenced.
I have to admit I've only listened to two of his albums: 'Dune' which was
mega dull (I sold it about a week or two later) and the previously mentioned
'Trailer', which only sparkles occasionally for me. It hasn't prompted me to
put it out for trade, though.
But then Klaus is considerably more palatable than some of the crap in the
charts at the moment and, given that choice, he'd certainly do me.
BTW - to those who say 80's music - I have to agree, a golden age of music.
But then the nineties onward, and record companies have decided we like
manufactured stuff and rap. These days, a band like Tangerine Dream, or for
that matter the new Genesis, Pink Floyd or whatever would have no chance at
all - companies demand instant success, not time to build that up, as these
bands did.
Or is it because the only reason I hate the 90's and 00's is because I've
grown a bit older?
Roger Hartopp
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From:
Kees Aerts / Groove Unlimited
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 2:46
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Klaus Schulze
At 14:23 8-3-03 +0100, you wrote:
>Morgan said:
>
>I did not like KS at all at first. I dragged myself thru a few albums after
>others insisting that it was God's gift to EM. KS can take a 5 minute
>musical idea and stretch it out to 45 minutes. It's almost an artform.
>Think of the Ents (trees) in Lord of the Rings talking for days about 1
>topic.
>
>Before you summarily give up, acquire/borrow Demo Session '1975, Historic
>Edition, and Are you Sequenced.
>
>I have to admit I've only listened to two of his albums: 'Dune' which was
>mega dull (I sold it about a week or two later) and the previously mentioned
>'Trailer', which only sparkles occasionally for me. It hasn't prompted me to
>put it out for trade, though.
Hi,
Dune is definitively not the album to start with.
Try 'Mirage' where part 2 called 'Crystal Lake' is my and many other
people's favorite.
Other highlights for me are: 'Moondawn', 'Body love 1 and 2'.
If you still don't like it then I suggest forget KS. ;-)
I also love 'Dig it' because of the GDS he uses.
Most people also love 'X' but that's not my cup of tea.
Best regards / Vriendelijke groeten,
Kees
GROOVE Unlimited (Specializing in Electronic Music)
Kees Aerts
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8203 AD Lelystad
The Netherlands
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From:
Marion Horrod
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 4:25
pm
Subject: Re: Other ravings...
Subject: Re: Other ravings...
actually it sounds like Q!!!!
Paulus.d
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Paul Dryden'
To:
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Other ravings...
> The Borg????????? from Star TrekTNG????
> Paulus.d
Naah, it's what's 'is face - you know, Elrond - in the Matrix.
'Welcome to Rivendell, ..Misterrrr.......Anderson.'
LnH
Marion
'The glass is neither half full or half empty. It's twice the size it needs
to be ...' S. Blakemore
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From:
Volkmar Friauf
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 4:45
pm
Subject: Klaus Schulze at Musikmesse?
Hello,
speaking of Klaus Schulze, did anyone make it to Musikmesse in Frankfurt
today?
How was his autograph session, and more important, how is the music on the
CD? 8-)
Regards,
Volkmar
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From:
tom george
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 4:45
pm
Subject: Other Music-Death Metal
One of the most original and fascinating Death Metal
bands I have come across in the last few years is
Dimmu Borgir. Any of their cds are good and they
also have a DVD set out that highlights their
history and recent tour. It includes 2 DVDs and
a live cd containing tracks not available elsewhere.
Saw them live in Atlanta last year (their first
tour in the US) and it was awesome. I dragged along
Vic Rek to see them and he even enjoyed it. :)
Tom
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From:
'Utch Entel'
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 5:37
pm
Subject: OT: Re: Other ravings...
It's gotta be from Matrix... ...the main agent talking to Morpheus.
On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 10:34:03 -0000, Paul Dryden wrote:
>The Borg????????? from Star TrekTNG????
>Paulus.d
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: 'David Butler'
>To:
>Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 9:35 PM
>Subject: [tadream] Other ravings...
>
>
>> 'I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during
>> my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify
>> your species. I realized that you're not actually
>> mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively
>> develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding
>> environment, but you humans do not. You move to an
>> area, and you multiply, and multiply, until every
>> natural resource is consumed. The only way you can
>> survive is to spread to another area. There is another
>> organism on this planet that follows the same pattern.
>> A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this
>> planet, you are a plague, and we are the cure.'
--------------- Tear and crumple after reading ---------------
Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one. --Albert Einstein
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From:
'vic rek'
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 6:17
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Other Music-Death Metal
From: 'tom george'
Subject: [tadream] Other Music-Death Metal
> One of the most original and fascinating Death Metal
> bands I have come across in the last few years is
> Dimmu Borgir. Any of their cds are good and they
> also have a DVD set out that highlights their
> history and recent tour. It includes 2 DVDs and
> a live cd containing tracks not available elsewhere.
> Saw them live in Atlanta last year (their first
> tour in the US) and it was awesome. I dragged along
> Vic Rek to see them and he even enjoyed it. :)
Ya, I even bought a CD by one of the opening acts: Cryptopsy.
I learned how to swing my head and I was amused by that Death Metal
slam-dancing by the stage - I was almost tempted to jump in - but my hair
wasn't long enough - or enough period :-)
Someone also mentioned that they listen to the Polish band SBB. I really
enjoy this old Polish band and just recently I picked up a SBB solo CD by
Josef Skrzek - excellent!
And to get on the TD topic - last night I listened to Edgar Froese's 'Beyond
the Storm' - I forgot how enjoyable this CD is!
Vic
From:
'Pergamon'
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 6:21
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Other ravings...
Someone has seen to much Matrix here........=O)
Jan
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Paul Dryden'
To:
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Other ravings...
> The Borg????????? from Star TrekTNG????
> Paulus.d
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'David Butler'
> To:
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 9:35 PM
> Subject: [tadream] Other ravings...
>
>
> > 'I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during
> > my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify
> > your species. I realized that you're not actually
> > mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively
> > develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding
> > environment, but you humans do not. You move to an
> > area, and you multiply, and multiply, until every
> > natural resource is consumed. The only way you can
> > survive is to spread to another area. There is another
> > organism on this planet that follows the same pattern.
> > A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this
> > planet, you are a plague, and we are the cure.'
> >
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From:
PENFOLD
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 6:13
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Other ravings...
At 2003.03.08-10:34, Paul Dryden wrote:
>The Borg????????? from Star TrekTNG????
'Agent Smith' - _The Matrix_
>----- Original Message -----
>From: 'David Butler'
>To:
>Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 9:35 PM
>
> > 'I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It
> came to me when I tried to classify your species. I realized that you're
> not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops
> a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment, but you humans do
> not. You move to an area, and you multiply, and multiply, until every
> natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread
> to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows
> the same pattern. A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of
> this planet, you are a plague, and we are the cure.'
Pete Isaacson aka °º¤ø,¸DJ DreamHead¸,ø¤º°
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From:
PENFOLD
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 6:35
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Outside the TD World
My €0.02
Primitive Machine (formerly Brain Garden)
JM Jarre
Juan Garcia Esquivel
Devo
Pink Floyd
Mutaytor (www.mutaytor.com/)
ZZ Top
Synergy
Beatles
Rolling Stones
Brian Setzer Orchestra
Bob Marley
Philip Glass
just to name a few
Pete Isaacson aka °º¤ø,¸DJ DreamHead¸,ø¤º°
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$$.....Damn!!!!!
'Absence of the KEEP LP is not evidence of its non-existence.' - Steven
Feldman
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From:
'Michal Moroz'
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 10:47
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Official Rerelease of JMJ Les Granges brulées
> a good news, but this particular JMJ soundtrack is just borring. I
> mean the music.
> Just my opinion, don't expect much about it if you decide to buy it.
Well...
But at least you can listen to it. Its maybe not so good, but still
interesting to see how JMJ has evolved.
Yet another early album by JMJ - Les Granges Brulees is pure sh*t :-)
Greetings
Michal Moroz
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From:
'Michal Moroz'
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 3:04
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Klaus Schulze
Well I like Klaus.
Maybe not all albums but he has a few very good ones. I like more the 80's
period with albums like Dziekuje Poland, Dreams of En=Trance or Transfer
Station Blue (with the Shrieve brothers - not Mark Shreeve ;-) ).
I also recommend The Dark Side of the Moog series. My favourite is number 8
(the live one)
Greetings
Michal Moroz
From:
quarlie@a...
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 7:06
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Outside the TD World
In a message dated 3/8/03 7:09:22 AM, artofvision01@y... writes:
>BTW 'Sentenced' is a finnish group (the only one I'm aware of).
Hmm... then you must not be aware of Stratovarius, Children of Bodom,
Nightwish or Sonata Arctica. All pretty decent and very technically gifted
Finnish bands (although I can only take Stratovarius in limited doses).
--Daniel
NP: King's X - Please Come Home... Mr. Bulbous
From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 7:13
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Official Rerelease of JMJ Les Granges brulées
> > Jean-Michel has had a hard time coming up with something better than
> > Equinoxe and oxygene in my opinion.
> > These great works were milestones and got many people listening to EM in
>the
> > first place (me,included) but recent CD's I don't think are a patch on
>these
> > classics
>
>I think it is a failed mindset to expect artists to improve all the time.
>Is
>that the nature of art, to improve on itself? I dont think so, because you
>cant really measure improvement. One thing about art is that it must evolve
>and provoke, in *any* direction, and if you dont think Jarre has done that
>over the years, including Metamorphoses, I dont think you have paid
>attention :-)
My 2 fave JMJ albums are Rendez-Vous and Chronologie.. of course, the first
ones are good, too, but not the only good ones. Metamorphoses, yes, it's
different, but in a very very bad way.
I found a few mp3s of Les Granges Brûlées, and they sound OK to me;
certainly better than eg. Deserted Palace. It also has a sort of similar
feel as in Wuivend Riet. (Don't ask for explanations, I'm unable to give
any.)
John Vertical
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From:
Liondream@a...
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 7:19
pm
Subject: Re: singing in the rain
I agree with Glenn on this one... and we HAVE heard JMJ singing before kinda
sorta - except he was doing it into a vocoder.
But I can kind of see the other point too... it has to do with branding... if
we buy an album by a certain artist we most often are expecting it to sound a
certain way at least to a point. Different and new, yet the same. Does that
make sense?
I mean, I think it's safe to say that if the Tangs suddenly announced that
they have decided to ditch all of the electronics and that from now on they
would dedicate themselves to peforming only traditional folk songs on
acoustic guitar and harmonica a lot of us would flip out.
In a message dated 3/8/2003 12:49:04 PM Central Standard Time,
tadream@yahoogroups.com writes:
> I think it is a failed mindset to expect artists to improve all the time. Is
> that the nature of art, to improve on itself? I dont think so, because you
> cant really measure improvement. One thing about art is that it must evolve
> and provoke, in *any* direction, and if you dont think Jarre has done that
> over the years, including Metamorphoses, I dont think you have paid
> attention :-)
>
> > - I mean J-MJ 'singing?'
>
> And why not? Just because a painter never used the colour yellow in his
> first 12 paintings doesnt mean he cant use it in his next paintings.
>
> Glenn
>
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From:
'fozziebear'
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 3:40
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream]: Klaus Schulze
I've heard a lot of music with effects that dominate and which are
uncomfortable to listen to.
What sets KS above the rest is his ability to use some of the most unusual
sounds ever heard and weave them into something that is a piece of music.
This guy really knows his synts
David
From:
Paul Fellows
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 7:32
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Digital Soundtrack Collection
Very kind :-)
Just interested to know, where did the labels come from? Didn't do any
myself. Are they available on line anywhere?
Paul
on 16/02/03 22:35, strat95@b... at strat95@b... wrote:
> Just wanted to give out an 'Attaboy!' and a big pat on the back to those
> folks that put together the DSC!!!
>
> I just finished putting my set together. Printed out the covers, trays and
> CD labels. This is a sharp looking set. Listened to the first few discs as I
> worked and the quality is outstanding!!
>
> Thanks to all involved for the hard work!!!
>
> Neal
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From:
'Piotr Millennium 3'
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 8:11
pm
Subject: new video file 'Hyperborea'
Hi,
You can download a new video file 'Hyperborea' (ca 14 MBytes) made by the
'Palacz and Millennium Production'
here: http://www.tangerinedream.pl/files/hyperborea.zip
Pozdrawiam
Piotr S. 'Millennium'
Strona zawieraj±ca informacje o nieoficjalnych
nagraniach Tangerine Dream :
http://www.astercity.net/~sulas/
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From:
thesmitter@j...
Date: Sun Mar 9, 2003 3:18
am
Subject: Fin
Say, anyone heard a guy/group named 'Fin'? I know 2 albums were sold by Synth
Music Direct but are now out of print, unfortunately. I like the sounds bits
and am interested in more info on him/them. Had a J M-Jarre sound to it.
Thanks for any info and sorry for the non-TD content.
Larry
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From:
'mike browder'
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 8:34
pm
Subject: Re: Outside the TD World
Bowie is without a doubt my main interest ouside TD. I've been able to put
together a nice video collection from Ziggy to Heathen. It's interesting to
hear how his songs have evolved over the years and throughout his various
incarnations.
When I was a kid I was crazy about the Rolling Stones. I lost interest in them
for a while, but after getting a few vids of their Sullivan appearances and the
Sympathy for the Devil documentary, it's really rekindled my interset in
vintage Stones. If I could have just got a hold of those vids around 1980 at
the height of my Stones mania.
Rammstein I really like. They're about the only metal I listen to anymore.
PIL and the Sex Pistols are also favs, along with Nat King Cole, Marianne
Faithfull and Lorena McKennitt.
m.
spawnofcthulhu @ webtv.net
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Art Of Vision wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I wanted to ask you about your musical interests
> outside TD. I mean, the music
> which is really different from the TD style (unlike
> AirSculpture RMI etc).
> That's because of two reasons:
>
> 1) After about two years of listening to ONLY TD some
> kind of breakthrough
> happened to me a couple of month ago and now my
> musical interests
> are extending very fast; however I still feel TD to be
> the best, but in completely
> different way. So I thought maybe you can recommend me
> something.
>
> 2) I wanted to know the attitude of other TD fans
> about this music I'm
> mostly listening to now, just for interest.
>
> So my new interests include:
>
> KMFDM
> Rammstein
> Sentenced
> Project Pitchfork
> Lacrimosa
>
> BTW I'd recommend the last one for all TD fans.
>
> Regards,
> ArtOfVision
From:
'Jim Moore'
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 8:51
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] OT: Re: Other ravings...
I thought it was the Sierra Club Mission Statement...
[ducking and running...]
- jim
-----Original Message-----
From: Utch Entel [mailto:Utch@i...]
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 12:37 PM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] OT: Re: Other ravings...
It's gotta be from Matrix... ...the main agent talking to Morpheus.
On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 10:34:03 -0000, Paul Dryden wrote:
>The Borg????????? from Star TrekTNG????
>Paulus.d
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: 'David Butler'
>To:
>Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 9:35 PM
>Subject: [tadream] Other ravings...
>
>
>> 'I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during
>> my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify
>> your species. I realized that you're not actually
>> mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively
>> develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment, but
>> you humans do not. You move to an area, and you multiply, and
>> multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you
>> can survive is to spread to another area. There is another
>> organism on this planet that follows the same pattern.
>> A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this
>> planet, you are a plague, and we are the cure.'
--------------- Tear and crumple after reading ---------------
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From:
'Glenn Folkvord \(Hyperion Media\)'
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 9:46
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Fin
I know Fin. He has a group at Yahoo called fin-music@yahoogroups.com but
they have moved on to a message board on the web now. But if you join his
list they can tell you where the action is.
Glenn
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From:
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Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 9:18 PM
Subject: [tadream] Fin
> Say, anyone heard a guy/group named 'Fin'? I know 2 albums were sold by
Synth Music Direct but are now out of print, unfortunately. I like the
sounds bits and am interested in more info on him/them. Had a J M-Jarre
sound to it.
>
> Thanks for any info and sorry for the non-TD content.
>
> Larry
>
>
>
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From:
Antonio Nunes
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 10:24
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Fin
thesmitter@j... wrote:
>
> Say, anyone heard a guy/group named 'Fin'? I know 2 albums were sold by Synth
Music > Direct but are now out of print, unfortunately. I like the sounds bits
and am > interested in more info on him/them. Had a J M-Jarre sound to it.
Larry, you can hear and download a few of his tracks in
http://www.ampcast.com/fin
Antonio Nunes
From:
Antonio Nunes
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 10:43
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] new video file 'Hyperborea'
Piotr Millennium 3 wrote:
>
> You can download a new video file 'Hyperborea' (ca 14 MBytes) made by
> the 'Palacz and Millennium Production'
> here: http://www.tangerinedream.pl/files/hyperborea.zip
Excellent pictures for one of my all-time favourite TD tracks. Well
done!
Antonio Nunes
From:
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 11:00
pm
Subject: Astoria boot
Hi guys!
Has anyone taped the gig?
Jarek 'Jerry'
mailto:jarek@w...
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http://www.klausmusic.pl/
http://www.wiktorowicz.pl/
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From:
Jonathan Holt
Date: Sun Mar 9, 2003 1:46
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Outside the TD world
I'm listening to a couple of tracks on mp3 off their
website. 'This Is It' is utterly charming - good
stuff! Thanks for sharing :-)
--- 'P.M. Dierking' wrote: >
> Don't forget the (first?) synth band ever, Lothar
> and the Hand People. If you have never experienced
> someone playing lead theremin, you just haven't
> lived.
> http://www.lotharandthehandpeople.com/
> Just a few other fringe tastes:
> anything with Franco Corelli singing, Frank Marino
> and Mahogany Rush, Blue Cheer, Pentatonik, and Q-Tip
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>
>
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From:
Gustavo Jobim
Date: Sun Mar 9, 2003 3:18
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Official Rerelease of JMJ Les Grange s brulées
>Well...
>But at least you can listen to it. Its maybe not so good, but still
>interesting to see how JMJ has evolved.
>Yet another early album by JMJ - Les Granges Brulees is pure sh*t :-)
Deserted Palace, his first album (1972), is way more interesting than LGB,
which is boring for me (tons of variations of the same theme...). The music
is very varied. It was composed to be used in radio stations as musical
background and stuff. You should try it. Interesting fact about his early
work - the single La Cage/Eros Machina (1971), Deserted Palace (1972) and
Les Granges Brûlées (1973) is that there are quite a few themes and musical
elements that he recreated and recycled in his albums, like in Magnetic
Fields and Chronologie.
------
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From:
'marc todd'
Date: Sun Mar 9, 2003 4:54
am
Subject: Pergamon Revisited
Hi Everyone,
Today on my round trip to work and back I listened to TD's Pergamon. It's
been quite awhile since I listened to this and I had forgotten what a truly
stunning album this is. Schmoelings' influence is readily apparent
throughout. Less improv, more melody, more digital sounding then the
Froese/Frank/Baumann era (my favorite) but it really works here. Pergamon
would probably get my vote for best TD 'live' album. Yeah, I know Poland is
a masterpiece as well, but to me Pergamon just has a certain quality that I
can't explain that is missing from Poland.
I shall have to dust of my cdr copy of Beyond the Wall to get the full
story.
Cheers,
Marc
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From:
'Gary Jenkins'
Date: Sun Mar 9, 2003 9:16
am
Subject: RE. Hyperborea Video File
Excellent pictures for one of my all-time favourite TD tracks. Well
done!
Antonio Nunes
I will second that superb video of one of the great TD
tracks,excellent work Piotr.
Cheers Gary
www.hyperborea.v21net.co.uk
From:
'Fred Yargui'
Date: Sun Mar 9, 2003 9:17
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Official Rerelease of JMJ Les Grange s brulées
Hello Dreamers,
When I first heard Mythodea (the latest Vangelis album), I found it quite
boring... I had to wait someone let me see the video in Athens and I was
litterally tied to my chair, watching the entire show till the end. Then,
music has a got sense to me.
I think is quite normal soundtracks have a repetitive theme (cf, Moricone,
Goblins, etc) and a soundtrack album is among all things a way to remember
the movie, or at least can't be dissocied so easily from it.
Best Regards,
Fred
np : Michael Bondee, Oxygene 7 (parts 2 & 3 ) in _Jarre Logic_
>Yet another early album by JMJ - Les Granges Brulees is pure sh*t :-)
Deserted Palace, his first album (1972), is way more interesting than LGB,
which is boring for me (tons of variations of the same theme...).
From:
Olav Neander
Date: Sun Mar 9, 2003 10:24
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Klaus Schulze
Kees Aerts / Groove Unlimited schrieb:
>Try 'Mirage' where part 2 called 'Crystal Lake' is my and many other
>people's favorite.
>Other highlights for me are: 'Moondawn', 'Body love 1 and 2'.'
>
Yes, these are also some of my favourite KS albums, and I'd like to add
my personal favourite: 'Timewind', maybe the most tangerine-dreamy one
by Klaus Schulze.
Olav
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From:
'vic rek'
Date: Sun Mar 9, 2003 1:26
pm
Subject: Sanctuary Re-issues
The new TD re-issues on the UK label Sanctuary now have been released under
BMG distribution in the USA. These are the ones with the nice packaging and
sleeves.
So far, we have:
Electronic Meditation
Alpha Centauri
Zeit
Atem
Green Desert
Le Parc
Journey Through a Burning Brain (3 CDs)
Vic
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From:
'Paul Dryden'
Date: Sun Mar 9, 2003 5:17
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Official Rerelease of JMJ Les Granges brulées
Sometimes I talk b*****ks, I mean Magnetic Fields isn't a bad album!!! or
any of his later stuff, just different!
Perhaps when you're young, you later remember those past things with
fondness and find it difficult to accept the new!
Also, with vocoders, he was 'singing' on Equinoxe as well....
Paulus.d
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Glenn Folkvord (Hyperion Media)'
To:
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Official Rerelease of JMJ Les Granges brulées
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Paul Dryden'
>
>
> > Jean-Michel has had a hard time coming up with something better than
> > Equinoxe and oxygene in my opinion.
> > These great works were milestones and got many people listening to EM in
> the
> > first place (me,included) but recent CD's I don't think are a patch on
> these
> > classics
>
> I think it is a failed mindset to expect artists to improve all the time.
Is
> that the nature of art, to improve on itself? I dont think so, because you
> cant really measure improvement. One thing about art is that it must
evolve
> and provoke, in *any* direction, and if you dont think Jarre has done that
> over the years, including Metamorphoses, I dont think you have paid
> attention :-)
>
> > - I mean J-MJ 'singing?'
>
> And why not? Just because a painter never used the colour yellow in his
> first 12 paintings doesnt mean he cant use it in his next paintings.
>
> Glenn
>
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From:
'Paul Dryden'
Date: Sun Mar 9, 2003 5:18
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Other ravings...
can't wait for the new MAtrix 2 and 3!!!!!
Paulus.d
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Marion Horrod'
To:
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 4:25 PM
Subject: [tadream] Re: Other ravings...
> Subject: Re: Other ravings...
>
> actually it sounds like Q!!!!
>
> Paulus.d
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Paul Dryden'
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 10:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [tadream] Other ravings...
>
> > The Borg????????? from Star TrekTNG????
> > Paulus.d
>
> Naah, it's what's 'is face - you know, Elrond - in the Matrix.
>
> 'Welcome to Rivendell, ..Misterrrr.......Anderson.'
>
> LnH
>
> Marion
>
> 'The glass is neither half full or half empty. It's twice the size it
needs
> to be ...' S. Blakemore
>
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From:
'Paul Dryden'
Date: Sun Mar 9, 2003 5:24
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Official Rerelease of JMJ Les Granges brulées
Answer myself - never!!!!!!!
The quickest U-turn since the history of racing driving!!!!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Paul Dryden'
To:
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Official Rerelease of JMJ Les Granges brulées
> Sometimes I talk b*****ks, I mean Magnetic Fields isn't a bad album!!! or
> any of his later stuff, just different!
> Perhaps when you're young, you later remember those past things with
> fondness and find it difficult to accept the new!
> Also, with vocoders, he was 'singing' on Equinoxe as well....
> Paulus.d
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Glenn Folkvord (Hyperion Media)'
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 1:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Official Rerelease of JMJ Les Granges brulées
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: 'Paul Dryden'
> >
> >
> > > Jean-Michel has had a hard time coming up with something better than
> > > Equinoxe and oxygene in my opinion.
> > > These great works were milestones and got many people listening to EM
in
> > the
> > > first place (me,included) but recent CD's I don't think are a patch on
> > these
> > > classics
> >
> > I think it is a failed mindset to expect artists to improve all the
time.
> Is
> > that the nature of art, to improve on itself? I dont think so, because
you
> > cant really measure improvement. One thing about art is that it must
> evolve
> > and provoke, in *any* direction, and if you dont think Jarre has done
that
> > over the years, including Metamorphoses, I dont think you have paid
> > attention :-)
> >
> > > - I mean J-MJ 'singing?'
> >
> > And why not? Just because a painter never used the colour yellow in his
> > first 12 paintings doesnt mean he cant use it in his next paintings.
> >
> > Glenn
> >
> >
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From:
Date: Sun Mar 9, 2003 5:38
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Digest Number 1723
Hello Paul,
No. I actually made them myself. I opened the front cover of each volume in
Adobe Photoshop. Use the erase feature in Photoshop to erased the wording in
the center of the picture, but leave the volume number. Now save this as a
separate picture. Now open this picture with your coverart/label printing
software and print as labels. Looks just like the front cover, with no words
and just the volume number to number the disc itself.
Very simple, but very nice. Since the artwork was so professional in
appearance, the labels have the same look!!
Hope this helps.
Neal
Message: 7
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 20:32:05 +0100
From: Paul Fellows
Subject: Re: Digital Soundtrack Collection
Very kind :-)
Just interested to know, where did the labels come from? Didn't do any
myself. Are they available on line anywhere?
Paul
on 16/02/03 22:35, strat95@b... at strat95@b... wrote:
> Just wanted to give out an 'Attaboy!' and a big pat on the back to those
> folks that put together the DSC!!!
>
> I just finished putting my set together. Printed out the covers, trays and
> CD labels. This is a sharp looking set. Listened to the first few discs as
I
> worked and the quality is outstanding!!
>
> Thanks to all involved for the hard work!!!
>
> Neal
From:
'Colin Jouxson'
Date: Sun Mar 9, 2003 5:42
pm
Subject: Re: Sanctuary Re-issues
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'vic rek' wrote:
> The new TD re-issues on the UK label Sanctuary now have been
released under
> BMG distribution in the USA. These are the ones with the nice
packaging and
> sleeves.
>
> So far, we have:
>
> Electronic Meditation
> Alpha Centauri
> Zeit
> Atem
> Green Desert
> Le Parc
> Journey Through a Burning Brain (3 CDs)
>
> Vic
And of course Vic,we all know you will but the LOT.
Best regards
Colin
South Wales UK
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From:
'vic rek'
Date: Sun Mar 9, 2003 5:45
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Sanctuary Re-issues
> >
> > So far, we have:
> >
> > Electronic Meditation
> > Alpha Centauri
> > Zeit
> > Atem
> > Green Desert
> > Le Parc
> > Journey Through a Burning Brain (3 CDs)
> >
> > Vic
> And of course Vic,we all know you will but the LOT.
What do you mean 'will', HAD bought is more like it :-)
I recommend these to everyone since the quality/packaging is great and it
sells at a lower than average price. I was paying $12.99 retail for the USA
releases.
Vic
> Best regards
> Colin
> South Wales UK
From:
'Colin Jouxson'
Date: Sun Mar 9, 2003 5:46
pm
Subject: Re: Sanctuary Re-issues
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Colin Jouxson'
wrote:
> --- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'vic rek'
wrote:
> > The new TD re-issues on the UK label Sanctuary now have been
> released under
> > BMG distribution in the USA. These are the ones with the nice
> packaging and
> > sleeves.
> >
> > So far, we have:
> >
> > Electronic Meditation
> > Alpha Centauri
> > Zeit
> > Atem
> > Green Desert
> > Le Parc
> > Journey Through a Burning Brain (3 CDs)
I MEANT BUY
> >
> > Vic
> And of course Vic,we all know you will but the LOT.
> Best regards
> Colin
> South Wales UK
From:
'Matthew Stringer'
Date: Sun Mar 9, 2003 6:42
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Who Does What
SF Acid is great, you shouldn't need the manual as it doesn't take too
long to figure what does what.
M@
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Dryden [mailto:paulus.d@f...]
Sent: 08 March 2003 10:45
To: Tadream
Subject: [tadream] Who Does What
This question comes up quite often on the list.
Which member did what thing in the band!
The only ones Iam sure about is by evidence we all ready know:
Chris Franke spends a lot of time in the 80's in front of an Emulator,
probably dropping in alien seagulls and other noises.
Johhannes improvises alot during pieces and seems to have fun!
Edgar pads chords and melodies in during all the performances.
Any of the rack mounted synths behind all the members could have the
sequences loaded, in realty all these are/were probably chained
together, controlled by a master sequencer.
We will probably never know exacly who did what, but the music produced
is greater than the sum of its parts.
Paulus.d
PS someone gave me a disk of Sonic Foundry's Acid Music Program- any
good? Pity it has no manual and won't load because I have no serial
key......
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From:
tom george
Date: Sun Mar 9, 2003 7:07
pm
Subject: Hyperborea
Simply stunning Piotr.
Tom
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From:
Frédéric Yargui
Date: Sun Mar 9, 2003 8:15
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Hyperborea
A big Thank You, Piotr :-))
Dream Regards,
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: 'tom george'
To:
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 8:07 PM
Subject: [tadream] Hyperborea
>
> Simply stunning Piotr.
> Tom
>
From:
'michael_berling'
Date: Sun Mar 9, 2003 8:29
pm
Subject: Re: TD release schedule - a DISCOGRAPHY question
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Paul Fellows wrote:
> on 8/03/03 9:36, pete1962@w... at pete1962@w... wrote:
>
> http://perso.club-internet.fr/pfellows/webpages/index.html
>
> Well if you don't blow your own trumpet :-)
>
> Paul
If Paul blows his trumpet, I'd like to blow mine, too... ;-)
Check out: http://www.voices-in-the-net.de
'Voices In The Net' is supposed to be the most comprehensive TD
discography worldwide. Of course, Paul's Dream Gallery is excellent,
too. Both sites just have a slightly different focus...
BTW: I'm just working on an update of VitN; the site will be updated
in a few days, including the new Astoria single then.
Regards,
Michael
>
> > Hey everybody,
> >
> > is there somewehere a site you can recomend, with a good (and
complete)
> > DISCOGRAPHY of TD?
> >
> > All official releases, (all ROIOS) ?
> >
> > Maybe with comments (reviews) to the CD's
> >
> >
> > Thanks for your help
> >
> > PETE
From:
'Glenn Folkvord \(Hyperion Media\)'
Date: Sun Mar 9, 2003 8:40
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Official Rerelease of JMJ Les Granges brulées
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Paul Dryden'
> Sometimes I talk b*****ks, I mean Magnetic Fields isn't a bad album!!! or
> any of his later stuff, just different!
Well, all opinions are valid of course.
> Perhaps when you're young, you later remember those past things with
> fondness and find it difficult to accept the new!
That is indeed how it is. It doesnt mean that the item you remember is bad,
it means you as a person has changed. From a 'taste' point of view, people
often confuse these things. It's just human nature I guess.
> Also, with vocoders, he was 'singing' on Equinoxe as well....
No, actually those sounds are from the ARP 2600, modified with equipment
made by Michel Geiss. JMJ explained so in an magazine article from 1979.
Glenn
From:
René Brenner
Date: Sun Mar 9, 2003 10:28
pm
Subject: Re: Klaus Schulze at Musikmesse?
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Volkmar Friauf wrote:
> Hello,
>
> speaking of Klaus Schulze, did anyone make it to Musikmesse in
Frankfurt
> today?
>
> How was his autograph session, and more important, how is the music
on the
> CD? 8-)
strings as usual with some sequencing done on alesis andromeda and
julia messenger voices which already appeared on contempory works 2
but have been editied. I heard only about 50 copies were given... so
watch out for copies and let me know ;-)
Cheers
René
From:
Morgan Feldon
Date: Sun Mar 9, 2003 10:52
pm
Subject: Re: Who Does What?
There were 98 concerts from 1975-1977 and nobody here on the list knows
anyone who attended any of those shows who remembers who played the piano?
*sigh*
TD is a mystery even amongst its fans.
-Morgan
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From:
'vic rek'
Date: Mon Mar 10, 2003 2:33
am
Subject: Ricochet Gathering 2003 - Mojave Subscription Package
Hello TD & EM Fans,
The annual Ricochet Gathering is approaching. This is the 4th year and the
1st time that the event has moved from the Okefenokee Swamp. This time we
are celebrating in the Mojave Desert in California. This will be 'our'
Mojave Plan in honor of Tangerine Dream. There is always an open invitation
to Tangerine Dream to join us.
This year the following musicians are confirmed:
Free System Projekt (Marcel Engels from Holland)
AirSculpture (the famous UK trio)
Star Sounds Orchestra (Steve Schroyder and Jens Zygar from Germany)
Bill Fox (Pennsylvania)
Dave Brewer (Arizona)
Arcane (Paul Lawler from UK)
Wolfram DER Spyra (Fax label from Germany).
Also, we will have a sound engineer and 24 track mixer!
Please visit my website www.ricochetdream.com/mojave.html for more
information. There are only around 10 spots left. the final cost will be
determined by the number of guests and number of subscriptions - yes -
subscriptions. To help pay for many expenses for this event, I am offering
a subscription package to the fans that cannot attend or afford to join us
at the Mojave desert.
The 'Ricochet Gathering Subscription' package for Mojave 2003 will consist
of:
1. Okefenokee Dreams 2000 or 2001 CD (your choice)
2. Mojave 2003 Promo CDRs (same as the guests will receive)
3. Mojave 2003 T-Shirt
4. Mystery item - One event grab bag item to be drawn by the guests at the
event.
I believe that this is a great deal for the fans! Also, if you wish to have
a CD autographed by one of the artists, just let me know. You can either
send me the CD or buy one that will be offered there.
So the cost for this package is $30 and ALL of this amount will be applied
towards the cost of holding the event. So the more that subscribe, the
greater success we'll have this year and the years to follow. Please contact
me off list at tangerinedream@a... if you wish to subscribe. I would
like to have all subscriptions in by April 1st. Postage will be $5.00 USA,
$10.00 worldwide. I accept PayPal.
Thanks for your interest.
Vic Rek
www.ricochetdream.com
From:
Heiko Heerssen
Date: Mon Mar 10, 2003 7:55
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Astoria boot
> Hi guys!
>
> Has anyone taped the gig?
An audience recording of this show will be part of 'Tangerine Tree Vol. 4'.
Apart from this I know that at least four different recordings do exist, but
so far only heard one (and this one is great :-)
Heiko
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From:
tony.vandergaag@p...
Date: Mon Mar 10, 2003 9:06
am
Subject: Re: JMJ-Aero
Citeren
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: 'Paul Dryden'
> >
> >
> > > Jean-Michel has had a hard time coming up with something better than
> > > Equinoxe and oxygene in my opinion.
> > > These great works were milestones and got many people listening to EM in
> > the
Hi All,
> > > - I mean J-MJ 'singing?'
> >
> > And why not? Just because a painter never used the colour yellow in his
> > first 12 paintings doesnt mean he cant use it in his next paintings.
> >
> > Glenn
Coming sunday, 16th march there will be a JMJ special on Dutch Radio-4 starting
at 20:00 hrs till 24:00 hrs. This broadcast will include to complete Aero
Concert held last year in Denmark in ely September.
I've understood that this broadcast will also be on internet, will try to find
out the right address soonest so that anyone who is interested inhearing JMJ
sing can tune in on coming sunday.
(i know he is singing 'cos a friend from finland recorded this concert from
finnish tv for me onto vhs. the concert was broadcasted on yle-tv as a sort
of new years present......)
but i guess anyone who is a bit into JMJ should try to listen to this anyway
because a lot of the old compositions are re-arranged for this concert and there
is quite some new music as well from the yet unreleased Aero album.
tony/rotterdam
From:
tony.vandergaag@p...
Date: Mon Mar 10, 2003 9:43
am
Subject: JMJ-Aero concert sun. 16/3/2003
Hello All,
for those of you who are interested in listening to this concert via
web-radio, the address for this broadcast is as follows :
www.omroep.nl/nps/4fm/
you can already check this address now there is already a large item about JMJ,
mostly in dutch but bio etc. is in english.
best regards,
tony/rotterdam
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From:
'pink_d_floyd'
Date: Mon Mar 10, 2003 5:29
am
Subject: Test
From:
lseck@m...
Date: Sun Mar 9, 2003 9:29
pm
Subject: TT1 availability and kudos
Greeting's to all,
I've been in lurk mode for awhile and figured I'd ask a question and give
props..
I've been listening to there music now for over 30 years.
if only..
First the props.
I dl'ed the tt2 and tt3 trees and I'm just amazed at the quality of these
trees..The artwork is just awesome..
Whomever conceived these projects gets a huge pat on the back!! Nicely done
indeed..
Which brings me to the question part..
I grabed these off the site '.de' ( thank you admin!!)
and I was wondering if someone could be so kind as to point me in the
direction as to obtain the first set via ftp??
I can do 1200 kbps
I'd be indebted forever...
Thanks again to the creators and for your help!!
I'll be listening to TD for the next monthy at least, such great material!!
:)
Len
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From:
TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak
Date: Mon Mar 10, 2003 10:59
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Outside the TD World
>
>
>BTW 'Sentenced' is a finnish group (the only one I'm aware of).
>It's Death Metal but tends to be more melodic
>
>Regards,
>Art
And now to get completely off topic: Well... here´s a couple of more pretty
well-known acts from Finland:
- Amorphis (the last two albums are great proggish metal, like mixing
Hawkwind with Metallica)
- HIM (dark alternative rock, they had a no. 1 hit in Germany)
- Apocalyptica (4 cellists playing heavy metal - great stuff! Imagine 4
long-haired, leather-clad dudes head-banging and ripping the sh... out of
their cellos.)
- Thy Serpent (black progressive metal)
- Let me Dream (dark metal)
- Nightwish (cheesy symphonic metal, like crossing Helloween with Andrew
Lloyd Webber, employing a female opera singer)
- Hanoi Rocks / Michael Monroe (still a sleaze.rock classic)
- Two Witches (goth rock legend)
Less famous outside of Finland, but highly recommendable:
- CMX (weird but enthralling musical mixture)
- Ismo Alanko
- Kingston Wall (prog legend from the 70s)
- Värttina
And... if you´re in for a big laugh, try:
- M.A. Numminen (he once did an album where he sang Wittgenstein and his
vocal style is strange to say the least)
So...that´s for starters... I bet our Finnish friends on the list will have
more to add.
Best regards,
Martin Kasprzak
TDI- Music- Support.
Tel:-49-30-23620995
Fax:-49-30-23620996
Visit our Website at:
http://www.tangerinedream.org
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
From:
edgar-rainer.berberich@g...
Date: Mon Mar 10, 2003 11:51
am
Subject: Antwort: [tadream] Outside The TD World
Hallo All,
is's very interesting the very different styles that listed on the answers.
Such old rarities as Frank Zappa, King Crimson and all the other stuff.
At Saturday I have listened to some very old Zappa stuff from the Olda
Masters Boxes (Volume I-II)
Yes I have the old vinyl record box.-sets.
Mit freundlichem Grüßen / best regards
Edgar Rainer Berberich
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From:
'Robert Asmus'
Date: Mon Mar 10, 2003 12:04
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] JMJ-Aero concert sun. 16/3/2003
What Time is the show on the East Coast of United States?
Robert
-----Original Message-----
From: tony.vandergaag@p...
[mailto:tony.vandergaag@p...]
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 4:43 AM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] JMJ-Aero concert sun. 16/3/2003
Hello All,
for those of you who are interested in listening to this concert via
web-radio, the address for this broadcast is as follows :
www.omroep.nl/nps/4fm/
you can already check this address now there is already a large item
about JMJ,
mostly in dutch but bio etc. is in english.
best regards,
tony/rotterdam
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From:
Erik Sanborn
Date: Mon Mar 10, 2003 1:35
pm
Subject: Re: new video file 'Hyperborea'
Piotr,
Will this appear on the next Miramar DVD entitled, 'Arctic Dreams'?
:-)
Very well done. I enjoyed this.
Best regards,
Erik
At 05:25 PM 3/9/2003 +0000, you wrote:
> Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 21:11:22 +0100
> From: 'Piotr Millennium 3'
>Subject: new video file 'Hyperborea'
>
>Hi,
>
>You can download a new video file 'Hyperborea' (ca 14 MBytes) made by the
>'Palacz and Millennium Production'
>here: http://www.tangerinedream.pl/files/hyperborea.zip
>
>
>Pozdrawiam
>
>Piotr S. 'Millennium'
>
>Strona zawieraj±ca informacje o nieoficjalnych
>nagraniach Tangerine Dream :
>http://www.astercity.net/~sulas/
>
>
From:
'braddito'
Date: Mon Mar 10, 2003 4:31
pm
Subject: Re: Who Does What?
Croydon 76 - Edgar played piano. I was in the third row of the choir
area (looks down on to the stage) for my first TD concert. His guitar
solo was a highlight as he wandered across the stage, turned towards
us and really got in to piece.
Toby
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Morgan Feldon wrote:
> There were 98 concerts from 1975-1977 and nobody here on the list
knows
> anyone who attended any of those shows who remembers who played the
piano?
>
> *sigh*
>
> TD is a mystery even amongst its fans.
>
> -Morgan
From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Mon Mar 10, 2003 5:12
pm
Subject: Piotr's Video
WOW!
Do you make videos professionally? And if no, WHY NOT?
Absolutely Spectacular!
James
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From:
Paul Fellows
Date: Mon Mar 10, 2003 6:01
pm
Subject: [tadream] Ruling the waves
Hi all,
I remember seeing a message from someone recently claiming that the missing
track from the Melrose years set was already on the TDI site, was this true
and if so can you please repeat the instructions about the jukebox because I
can't see it there...
Paul
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From:
'Janet Wojtecki'
Date: Mon Mar 10, 2003 6:31
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Who Does What?
Toby is right.
For the 75 and 76 pieces that I witnessed, where the second set starts with
a piano piece. It was Edgar playing.
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: 'braddito'
To:
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 4:31 PM
Subject: [tadream] Re: Who Does What?
> Croydon 76 - Edgar played piano. I was in the third row of the choir
> area (looks down on to the stage) for my first TD concert. His guitar
> solo was a highlight as he wandered across the stage, turned towards
> us and really got in to piece.
>
> Toby
>
> --- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Morgan Feldon wrote:
> > There were 98 concerts from 1975-1977 and nobody here on the list
> knows
> > anyone who attended any of those shows who remembers who played the
> piano?
> >
> > *sigh*
> >
> > TD is a mystery even amongst its fans.
> >
> > -Morgan
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
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> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
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> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
From:
'billythefish01'
Date: Mon Mar 10, 2003 6:30
pm
Subject: Re: Ruling the waves
I seem to remember that the instructions were to open Outland and
let it play 78 times.
The post was followed by a wink (;-))
The guilty dreamer was a certain very upright character...
Good point though. Where is it? Martin? Will it be on Mota Atma?
TTFN
BTF
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Paul Fellows wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I remember seeing a message from someone recently claiming that
the missing
> track from the Melrose years set was already on the TDI site, was
this true
> and if so can you please repeat the instructions about the jukebox
because I
> can't see it there...
>
> Paul
From:
'Sean Montgomery'
Date: Mon Mar 10, 2003 6:53
pm
Subject: Re: Ruling the waves
I asked TDI about 'Ruling the Waves' last week (when in doubt, go to
the source!) I was told that they hope to have an mp3 of the track
available for download sometime this week.
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From:
'Phil White'
Date: Mon Mar 10, 2003 7:00
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Piotr's Video
Where do I find Piotr's celebrated video guys...?
Cheers Phil
From:
moxica@a...
Date: Mon Mar 10, 2003 7:27
pm
Subject: Tangerine Tree MP3's in the Newsgroups
I've been seeing some of the Tangerine Trees popping up in the
alt.binaries.mp3.electronic newsgroup lately. (I say 'lately' as I just
started looking through newsgroups recently -- they could have been out there
for some time). Technically, I can't think of a reason this is wrong, as the
music is being freely distributed with the band's permission anyway, but
something about seeing it in a newsgroup doesn't feel right. Thoughts?
Also, Marcel, I've seen an FSP album go by every once in a while. I didn't
recall the album names, but they weren't ones I owned And, no, I didn't
download the files -- I don't download any media that I know or believe to be
copyrighted unless I already possess the proper original media in one form or
another.
Now, porn is another story... [Just kidding! :-) ]
- jim
--
Jim Moore, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
moxica@a...
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From:
'Janet Wojtecki'
Date: Mon Mar 10, 2003 8:52
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] new video file 'Hyperborea'
Bravo Piotr,
Milo bylo poznacz cie!
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Piotr Millennium 3'
To:
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 8:11 PM
Subject: [tadream] new video file 'Hyperborea'
> Hi,
>
> You can download a new video file 'Hyperborea' (ca 14 MBytes) made by the
'Palacz and Millennium Production'
> here: http://www.tangerinedream.pl/files/hyperborea.zip
>
>
> Pozdrawiam
>
> Piotr S. 'Millennium'
>
> Strona zawierajca informacje o nieoficjalnych
> nagraniach Tangerine Dream :
> http://www.astercity.net/~sulas/
>
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
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>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
From:
Liondream@a...
Date: Mon Mar 10, 2003 8:50
pm
Subject: Re: piano
Right or wrong... from that period I always thought it was E.F.
P.B. electric piano on Desert Dream.
J.S. later on during the FFS years.
Would be interesting to know for sure.
Message: 7
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 16:52:01 -0600
From: Morgan Feldon
Subject: Re: Who Does What?
There were 98 concerts from 1975-1977 and nobody here on the list knows
anyone who attended any of those shows who remembers who played the piano?
*sigh*
TD is a mystery even amongst its fans.
-Morgan
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From:
Date: Mon Mar 10, 2003 9:06
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Astoria boot
Great news, thx!!
__________________________
Jarek 'Jerry'
mailto:jarek@w...
Visit my websites at:
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> An audience recording of this show will be part of 'Tangerine
> Tree Vol. 4'.
> Apart from this I know that at least four different
> recordings do exist, but
> so far only heard one (and this one is great :-)
>
> Heiko
>
>
>
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> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
From:
herold.u@t...
Date: Mon Mar 10, 2003 9:05
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] new video file 'Hyperborea'
Hi Piotr,
absolutely fantastic!
A great job, is there more to come???
Cheers,
Uwe
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Piotr Millennium 3'
To:
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 9:11 PM
Subject: [tadream] new video file 'Hyperborea'
> Hi,
>
> You can download a new video file 'Hyperborea' (ca 14 MBytes) made by the
'Palacz and Millennium Production'
> here: http://www.tangerinedream.pl/files/hyperborea.zip
>
>
> Pozdrawiam
>
> Piotr S. 'Millennium'
>
> Strona zawieraj±ca informacje o nieoficjalnych
> nagraniach Tangerine Dream :
> http://www.astercity.net/~sulas/
>
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
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> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
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From:
'Matthew Stringer'
Date: Mon Mar 10, 2003 9:21
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Re: piano
I reckon that too.
EF is usually credited for the piano parts for the albums released
during that time, which indicates him further.
-----Original Message-----
From: Liondream@a... [mailto:Liondream@a...]
Sent: 10 March 2003 20:51
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] Re: piano
Right or wrong... from that period I always thought it was E.F.
P.B. electric piano on Desert Dream.
J.S. later on during the FFS years.
Would be interesting to know for sure.
Message: 7
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 16:52:01 -0600
From: Morgan Feldon
Subject: Re: Who Does What?
There were 98 concerts from 1975-1977 and nobody here on the list
knows
anyone who attended any of those shows who remembers who played the
piano?
*sigh*
TD is a mystery even amongst its fans.
-Morgan
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From:
'Matthew Sawyer'
Date: Mon Mar 10, 2003 10:31
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Tangerine Tree MP3's in the Newsgroups
From:
> I've been seeing some of the Tangerine Trees popping up in the
> alt.binaries.mp3.electronic newsgroup lately. (I say 'lately' as I just
> started looking through newsgroups recently -- they could have been out there
> for some time). Technically, I can't think of a reason this is wrong, as the
> music is being freely distributed with the band's permission anyway, but
> something about seeing it in a newsgroup doesn't feel right. Thoughts?
I spotted them too, did a double take and grinned like an idiot. I think it's
nice to see the project popping up in unexpected places. As for it 'not feeling
right', I only became annoyed when one person started bitching about the posting
format, and not really appreciating the material that was being made available
or the time and effort that went into making it.
Oh, and the poster was uploading the wrong covers...
Maff
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From:
'Robert Asmus'
Date: Tue Mar 11, 2003 12:30
am
Subject: RE: [tadream] Tangerine Tree MP3's in the Newsgroups
Sorry bout putting the wrong covers up. I think I only put one cover up
and it was from the set of TT1 shn disk's that was mailed to me from
somebody in Germany. The only reason I put them up in mp3 format was to
spread the free trade of the sets. Also just to let everybody know.
Tangerine Dream has been added to the free trade on Furthurnet's P2P
program. Also here is a good praise that I have received in one of my
emails:
Hello...
Thanks for posting the Tangerine Dream Warsaw Concert Bootleg, I did
not
know that a Series of Live Bootlegs existed for TD...don't suppose you
have
any others have you, or could you point me in the right direction
please???
Thanks...
Dunkie (Web-Master of JARRE UK)
http://www.jarreuk.com
dunkie@j...
If I have offended anybody I am sorry. My last post did not include any
cover art.
Robert Asmus.
P.S. If it is ok with the group I would like to continue my post's.
Just to let the group know I have been making my mp3 post's at a 320 bit
rate so as to make them the highest quality mp3 I could make available.
-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Sawyer [mailto:matthewsawyer@b...]
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 5:31 PM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] Tangerine Tree MP3's in the Newsgroups
From:
> I've been seeing some of the Tangerine Trees popping up in the
> alt.binaries.mp3.electronic newsgroup lately. (I say 'lately' as I
just
> started looking through newsgroups recently -- they could have been
out there
> for some time). Technically, I can't think of a reason this is wrong,
as the
> music is being freely distributed with the band's permission anyway,
but
> something about seeing it in a newsgroup doesn't feel right.
Thoughts?
I spotted them too, did a double take and grinned like an idiot. I think
it's
nice to see the project popping up in unexpected places. As for it 'not
feeling
right', I only became annoyed when one person started bitching about the
posting
format, and not really appreciating the material that was being made
available
or the time and effort that went into making it.
Oh, and the poster was uploading the wrong covers...
Maff
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From:
'Yanick Vigneault'
Date: Tue Mar 11, 2003 1:21
am
Subject: Re: new video file 'Hyperborea'
BRAVO Piotr!
Your video is in the spirit of this great TD piece...
Like Herold, I hope that you will make projects like this one.
Best regards!
Yanick Vigneault
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, herold.u@t... wrote:
> Hi Piotr,
>
> absolutely fantastic!
> A great job, is there more to come???
>
> Cheers,
> Uwe
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Piotr Millennium 3'
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 9:11 PM
> Subject: [tadream] new video file 'Hyperborea'
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > You can download a new video file 'Hyperborea' (ca 14 MBytes)
made by the
> 'Palacz and Millennium Production'
> > here: http://www.tangerinedream.pl/files/hyperborea.zip
> >
> >
> > Pozdrawiam
> >
> > Piotr S. 'Millennium'
> >
> > Strona zawieraj±ca informacje o nieoficjalnych
> > nagraniach Tangerine Dream :
> > http://www.astercity.net/~sulas/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> > http://www.tadream.net/tree
> >
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> >
> >
From:
Jens Kilian
Date: Tue Mar 11, 2003 7:35
am
Subject: Re: Outside the TD World
> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:59:58 +0100
> From: TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak
[...]
> Less famous outside of Finland, but highly recommendable:
> - CMX (weird but enthralling musical mixture)
> - Ismo Alanko
> - Kingston Wall (prog legend from the 70s)
> - Värttina
Oooh, another Värttinä fan :-)
If you're into that kind of thing, you may want to also try Hedningarna
and Gjallarhorn, and possibly (straying into the Celtic folk realm) Tri Yann
or Afro-Celt Sound System.
Bye,
Jens.
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From:
Marko Marin
Date: Tue Mar 11, 2003 7:48
am
Subject: [tadream] Re: Outside the TD World
From Finland you can also find Rihmasto. Very
minimalistic. Even spooky sometimes (especially
Kantajan takauma). Check it out.
'http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/10/rihmasto.html'
Regards,
Marko Marin
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From:
tony.vandergaag@p...
Date: Tue Mar 11, 2003 8:52
am
Subject: Re: JMJ-Broadcast
Hi Robert,
In holland we have GMT+1
so i guess east coast US time must be somewhere around 13:00/14:00 noon ??
believe we have 6 or 7 hours time difference and we still have 'wintertime'
here in europe..
hope this helps..
tony/rotterdam
> Message: 16
> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 07:04:37 -0500
> From: 'Robert Asmus'
> Subject: RE: JMJ-Aero concert sun. 16/3/2003
>
> What Time is the show on the East Coast of United States?
>
> Robert
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tony.vandergaag@p...
> [mailto:tony.vandergaag@p...]
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 4:43 AM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [tadream] JMJ-Aero concert sun. 16/3/2003
>
>
> Hello All,
>
> for those of you who are interested in listening to this concert via
> web-radio, the address for this broadcast is as follows :
>
> www.omroep.nl/nps/4fm/
>
> you can already check this address now there is already a large item
> about JMJ,
> mostly in dutch but bio etc. is in english.
>
> best regards,
>
> tony/rotterdam
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From:
TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak
Date: Tue Mar 11, 2003 10:14
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Ruling the waves
At 18:53 10.03.03, you wrote:
>I asked TDI about 'Ruling the Waves' last week (when in doubt, go to
>the source!) I was told that they hope to have an mp3 of the track
>available for download sometime this week.
Dear list,
let´s put it like this... the reason that the track has not been posted yet
is that we are having some trouble with our web programmers and, at the
moment, do not have time to take care of this ourselves. The track will be
posted, though, and we hope it will be up by the end of the week (...don´t
kill me if it takes til mid next week, though...)
Best regards,
Martin Kasprzak
TDI- Music- Support.
Tel:-49-30-23620995
Fax:-49-30-23620996
Visit our Website at:
http://www.tangerinedream.org
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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From:
'Glynn Naughton'
Date: Tue Mar 11, 2003 10:33
am
Subject: Re: piano
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Matthew Stringer' wrote:
> I reckon that too.
>
> EF is usually credited for the piano parts for the albums released
> during that time, which indicates him further.
Remember that Edgar revived his piano-playing role for the 1996
Shepherds Bush concert. To be more specific, he shared this role with
Linda Spa.
And he was really playing, not miming.
Glynn
From:
'Robert Asmus'
Date: Tue Mar 11, 2003 11:16
am
Subject: RE: [tadream] Re: JMJ-Broadcast
Thanks Tony......
-----Original Message-----
From: tony.vandergaag@p...
[mailto:tony.vandergaag@p...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:53 AM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] Re: JMJ-Broadcast
Hi Robert,
In holland we have GMT+1
so i guess east coast US time must be somewhere around 13:00/14:00 noon
??
believe we have 6 or 7 hours time difference and we still have
'wintertime'
here in europe..
hope this helps..
tony/rotterdam
> Message: 16
> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 07:04:37 -0500
> From: 'Robert Asmus'
> Subject: RE: JMJ-Aero concert sun. 16/3/2003
>
> What Time is the show on the East Coast of United States?
>
> Robert
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tony.vandergaag@p...
> [mailto:tony.vandergaag@p...]
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 4:43 AM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [tadream] JMJ-Aero concert sun. 16/3/2003
>
>
> Hello All,
>
> for those of you who are interested in listening to this concert via
> web-radio, the address for this broadcast is as follows :
>
> www.omroep.nl/nps/4fm/
>
> you can already check this address now there is already a large item
> about JMJ,
> mostly in dutch but bio etc. is in english.
>
> best regards,
>
> tony/rotterdam
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From:
'Paul Dryden'
Date: Tue Mar 11, 2003 11:32
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: piano
I was at that Shephards bush gig too. Edgar started playing then was tapped
on the shoulder by Linda, as if to say thats enough, where Edgar then got
up, Linda sat down and carried on......!!!!
PAulus.d!
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Glynn Naughton'
To:
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 10:33 AM
Subject: [tadream] Re: piano
> --- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Matthew Stringer' wrote:
> > I reckon that too.
> >
> > EF is usually credited for the piano parts for the albums released
> > during that time, which indicates him further.
>
> Remember that Edgar revived his piano-playing role for the 1996
> Shepherds Bush concert. To be more specific, he shared this role with
> Linda Spa.
>
> And he was really playing, not miming.
>
> Glynn
>
>
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>
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>
>
>
>
From:
Klaus Beschorner
Date: Tue Mar 11, 2003 12:27
pm
Subject: new postage rates / homepage mini-update
Hi all,
the german mail service has done it again - a steep price increase
effective March 1st, making postage rates from Germany even more
ridiculous than they already were. For example, a 1kg air mail
packet now costs Euros 12.30 (Europe,+27%) or 21.- (World,+28%).
Don't blame you German trade partners, this is the sad truth.
I have updated some files on my homepage to reflect this change,
and added a few news to my swaplist.
See http://www.caby.de/downloads/porto_2003.pdf for the full
list of new postage rates.
best regards,
klaus
From:
Bradley Duke/Cambridge/IBM
Date: Tue Mar 11, 2003 12:48
pm
Subject: Patrolling Space Borders
Hi,
Does anyone have a jpeg of the inserts for this boot they could post?
Thanks.
Brad (the anal one)
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From:
'Brad Kuhn'
Date: Tue Mar 11, 2003 1:06
pm
Subject: Graham Speake - Please Contact Me
Folks-
Sorry about the waste of bandwidth here, but I can't find Graham's
email address in the TT3 database. I'm your supplier and I will be
in possession of the TT3 SHN set later this week. Please drop me an
email.
Thanks!
B
From:
'Derek Hicks'
Date: Mon Mar 10, 2003 8:06
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Piotr's Video
You can download the new video file 'Hyperborea' (ca 14 MBytes) made by the
'Palacz and Millennium Production'
here: http://www.tangerinedream.pl/files/hyperborea.zi
Regards
Derek
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Phil White'
To:
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Piotr's Video
> Where do I find Piotr's celebrated video guys...?
>
> Cheers Phil
>
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From:
'Thomas Gerardy'
Date: Mon Mar 10, 2003 2:24
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] TT1 availability and kudos
I'm actually in a similar position, I was hanging out on the wrong list
and didn't find out until somebody cross posted something about the TT.
Got here for 2 and 3 but missed #1. If someone could recycle it onto
ftp after TT3 dies down let me know as well, it would be much
appreciated.
--tom
On Sunday, March 9, 2003, at 02:29 PM, lseck@m... wrote:
> Greeting's to all,
>
> I've been in lurk mode for awhile and figured I'd ask a question and
> give
> props..
>
> I've been listening to there music now for over 30 years.
> if only..
> First the props.
> I dl'ed the tt2 and tt3 trees and I'm just amazed at the quality of
> these
> trees..The artwork is just awesome..
> Whomever conceived these projects gets a huge pat on the back!! Nicely
> done
> indeed..
>
> Which brings me to the question part..
>
> I grabed these off the site '.de' ( thank you admin!!)
> and I was wondering if someone could be so kind as to point me in the
> direction as to obtain the first set via ftp??
>
> I can do 1200 kbps
> I'd be indebted forever...
> Thanks again to the creators and for your help!!
> I'll be listening to TD for the next monthy at least, such great
> material!!
>
> :)
>
> Len
>
>
>
>
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>
>
From:
KWBeal
Date: Tue Mar 11, 2003 3:17
pm
Subject: Looking for> Michael Fox
Sorry to disturb you all, but I looking for Michael Fox. The last known
email address I have is: mfox@i...
Michael if you are out there, please contact me asap.
-OR-
If anyone knows of Michael's where-abouts, please contact me..
TIA,
Ken
From:
'tei waz'
Date: Tue Mar 11, 2003 4:51
pm
Subject: re failed mindset
>I think it is a failed mindset to expect artists to improve all the time
Improve is so subjective--just think of the musician as art itself and the
picture is complete. However, far be it from me to tell you how to think.
;)
--T
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From:
Date: Tue Mar 11, 2003 4:55
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Patrolling Space Borders
Got front, back & cd label
__________________________
Jarek 'Jerry'
mailto:jarek@w...
Visit my websites at:
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> Hi,
> Does anyone have a jpeg of the inserts for this boot they could post?
> Thanks.
>
> Brad (the anal one)
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From:
Klaus Beschorner
Date: Tue Mar 11, 2003 5:21
pm
Subject: TD on furthurnet.org
> Also just to let everybody know.
> Tangerine Dream has been added to the free trade on Furthurnet's P2P
> program.
I really wonder... it's about a year ago that I last looked,
and at that time, furthurnet required a mail from the band to them
before they put the band on the 'taper friendly' list. Not just a
copy of the quote of a mail from TDI to one individual fan...
Whatever, just bear in mind that the band (or TDI, in our case)
are not the only ones having a say in the prosecution or
non-prosecution of certain activities ;-)
cheers,
klaus
From:
'Marcel Engels'
Date: Tue Mar 11, 2003 5:32
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Tangerine Tree MP3's in the Newsgroups
> From: moxica@a... [mailto:moxica@a...]
>
> Also, Marcel, I've seen an FSP album go by every once in a
> while. I didn't
> recall the album names, but they weren't ones I owned And,
> no, I didn't
> download the files -- I don't download any media that I know
> or believe to be
> copyrighted unless I already possess the proper original
> media in one form or
> another.
Hi Jim
I also check some newsgroups from time to time and I saw
a few of my albums passing by.
At one end I'm flattered that I'm in the newsgroups (it may
be a bit of promotion), at the other end I have a bad/weird
feeling about it, people not buying the album and supporting
the artist.
Sadly I cannot do anything about it, but to say: I will put
my lawyers on it. (if I had them :-))
Marcel
http://home.wanadoo.nl/mengels
mengels@w...
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From:
Armin Theissen
Date: Tue Mar 11, 2003 5:56
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Piotr's Video
...and what tool do you need to play it?
a.
Derek Hicks wrote:
> You can download the new video file 'Hyperborea' (ca 14 MBytes) made by the
> 'Palacz and Millennium Production'
> here: http://www.tangerinedream.pl/files/hyperborea.zi
>
> Regards
> Derek
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Phil White'
> To:
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 7:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [tadream] Piotr's Video
>
>
>
>>Where do I find Piotr's celebrated video guys...?
>>
>>Cheers Phil
>>
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>>http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>>
>>Tangerine Tree info at
>>http://www.tadream.net/tree
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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From:
Date: Tue Mar 11, 2003 6:00
pm
Subject: Tangerine Tree MP3's in the Newsgroups
I started several sets of the first and second trees going on 2 different
mailing lists I am a member of. I hope this is OK? I was trying to get more
people onto them. I have heard positive responses from about 80% of the
people that I know have received them.
Just trying to spread the music.....
Neal
Message: 3
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 19:27:26 +0000
From: moxica@a...
Subject: Tangerine Trees in the Newgroups
I've been seeing some of the Tangerine Trees popping up in the
alt.binaries.mp3.electronic newsgroup lately. (I say 'lately' as I just
started looking through newsgroups recently -- they could have been out
there
for some time). Technically, I can't think of a reason this is wrong, as
the
music is being freely distributed with the band's permission anyway, but
something about seeing it in a newsgroup doesn't feel right. Thoughts?
Also, Marcel, I've seen an FSP album go by every once in a while. I didn't
recall the album names, but they weren't ones I owned And, no, I didn't
download the files -- I don't download any media that I know or believe to
be
copyrighted unless I already possess the proper original media in one form
or
another.
Now, porn is another story... [Just kidding! :-) ]
- jim
--
Jim Moore, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
moxica@a...
From:
Antonio Nunes
Date: Tue Mar 11, 2003 6:08
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Piotr's Video
Armin Theissen wrote:
>
> ...and what tool do you need to play it?
Windows Media Player. The file is in the format WMV, but you'll have to
unzip it first.
Antonio Nunes
n.p. TT3 Vol.26
From:
quarlie@a...
Date: Tue Mar 11, 2003 6:55
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Outside the TD World
In a message dated 3/11/2003 2:48:09 AM Eastern Standard Time,
rubyconist@y... writes:
> From Finland you can also find Rihmasto. Very
> minimalistic. Even spooky sometimes (especially
> Kantajan takauma). Check it out.
On that note, another Finnish act is Pan sonic (formerly Panasonic). My friend
says they're pretty good - kind of sparse electronic rhythm music. Pretty
different from the other Finnish bands I mentioned before (all metal).
--Daniel
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From:
'Janet Wojtecki'
Date: Tue Mar 11, 2003 7:01
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Piotr's Video
Antonio,
You're right , it is a wmv file. But older versions of Media Player may not
recognise it. My Win '98 version (..?) certainly didn't, but fine on version
8 on XP.
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Antonio Nunes'
To:
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Piotr's Video
>
> Armin Theissen wrote:
> >
> > ...and what tool do you need to play it?
>
> Windows Media Player. The file is in the format WMV, but you'll have to
> unzip it first.
>
> Antonio Nunes
>
> n.p. TT3 Vol.26
>
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>
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> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
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From:
'Tom Richmond'
Date: Tue Mar 11, 2003 7:02
pm
Subject: Tribute CD Tree
Hello everyone:
First a big thanks to Jerome Salyers for putting this project together in
record time. And also to Yannick for the fine artwork.
This one disc project, entitled 'Between the Stars', will be distributed
using a Redbook CDR tree just like the Dreamwatchers' Tales projects.
Artwork is the responsibility of each leaf/branch in the tree and is
available here: http://www.geocities.com/coolbeansstudios/tribute_cd.html
Anyone interested in participating can contact me at trichmond@b...
with the following information:
Name
Location (City/State/Country)
e-mail address
Preferred Status (Leaf or Branch - if branch please let me know how many
copies you'd be willing to do)
Hopefully we can get this tree off the ground as quickly as Jerome and the
contributors put it together!
I'll take sign-ups for two weeks (until the 25th) and then put together a
tree structure. If I'm in need of branch help in particular areas I'll ask
prior to posting the structure.
Cheers!
Tom Richmond
Menomonee Falls, WI
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From:
Antonio Nunes
Date: Tue Mar 11, 2003 7:18
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Piotr's Video
Janet Wojtecki wrote:
>
> You're right , it is a wmv file. But older versions of Media Player may not
> recognise it. My Win '98 version (..?) certainly didn't, but fine on version
> 8 on XP.
My Windows 98 SE with an old version of Media Player (6.4) plays it all
right. Anyway, if you can't play it in your Win98, you can upgrade your
Media Player to version 9. Here is the URL:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/9series/player.aspx
Antonio Nunes
still playing TT3 Vol.26
From:
'Yanick Vigneault'
Date: Tue Mar 11, 2003 9:16
pm
Subject: Re: Outside the TD World
I saw Pan sonic last year with Merzbow at New Music Festival (FIMAV
http://www.fimav.qc.ca) in Victoriaville (my birth place), Quebec,
Canada . Very pure 'noisy' show. I like very much their approach!
Yanick
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, quarlie@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 3/11/2003 2:48:09 AM Eastern Standard Time,
rubyconist@y... writes:
>
> > From Finland you can also find Rihmasto. Very
> > minimalistic. Even spooky sometimes (especially
> > Kantajan takauma). Check it out.
>
> On that note, another Finnish act is Pan sonic (formerly
Panasonic). My friend says they're pretty good - kind of sparse
electronic rhythm music. Pretty different from the other Finnish
bands I mentioned before (all metal).
>
> --Daniel
From:
'Glenn Folkvord \(Hyperion Media\)'
Date: Tue Mar 11, 2003 9:35
pm
Subject: Semi-OT: Norwegian synth musicians
Heysann,
This pertains only to Norwegian synth players so the rest will be in
Norwegian:
Jeg skal arrangere en utendørs multimedia-konsert i Hønefoss på sensommeren
og trenger tre musikere som er interessert i å spille musikk av typen Jarre,
Vangelis og Tangerine Dream i en live-sammenheng. Man må påregne å bli
'dirigert' av kunstnerisk leder (meg). Det vil bli betalt lønn.
For mer info, send en blank mail til: konsert@f...
Hilsen Glenn Folkvord
Innehaver, Hyperion Media - kultur og mediautvikling
glenn@f...
From:
'Jim Moore'
Date: Tue Mar 11, 2003 10:44
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Tangerine Tree MP3's in the Newsgroups
Last night I saw Okeefenokee Dreams on the newsgroup, too. Oh well...
- jim
From: Marcel Engels [mailto:mengels@w...]
I also check some newsgroups from time to time and I saw
a few of my albums passing by.
At one end I'm flattered that I'm in the newsgroups (it may
be a bit of promotion), at the other end I have a bad/weird feeling about
it, people not buying the album and supporting the artist. Sadly I cannot do
anything about it, but to say: I will put my lawyers on it. (if I had them
:-))
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From:
'Robert Asmus'
Date: Wed Mar 12, 2003 1:09
am
Subject: RE: [tadream] Tangerine Tree MP3's in the Newsgroups
Well I have had seen only one negative comment to my posting of TD shows
in the news groups. And from what I heard the complainer is a wanna be
dictator by telling people what should be posted in the Electronic News
Group and how it should be posted. I did have a response from a member
that suggested that I post in the bootleg news group. If any body has
any thing negative to say about that please let me know as I will only
be making one post a week.
Robert Asmus
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Moore [mailto:moxica@a...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 5:45 PM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [tadream] Tangerine Tree MP3's in the Newsgroups
Last night I saw Okeefenokee Dreams on the newsgroup, too. Oh well...
- jim
From: Marcel Engels [mailto:mengels@w...]
I also check some newsgroups from time to time and I saw
a few of my albums passing by.
At one end I'm flattered that I'm in the newsgroups (it may
be a bit of promotion), at the other end I have a bad/weird feeling
about
it, people not buying the album and supporting the artist. Sadly I
cannot do
anything about it, but to say: I will put my lawyers on it. (if I had
them
:-))
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From:
'Robert Asmus'
Date: Wed Mar 12, 2003 1:43
am
Subject: RE: [tadream] Tangerine Tree MP3's in the Newsgroups
It seem's my posting of the live shows has sparked some Tangerine Dream
interest. As I took a peek at the bootleg news group and I saw somebody
else has started posting shows.
Robert Asmus
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Asmus [mailto:asmus0324@c...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 8:10 PM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [tadream] Tangerine Tree MP3's in the Newsgroups
Well I have had seen only one negative comment to my posting of TD shows
in the news groups. And from what I heard the complainer is a wanna be
dictator by telling people what should be posted in the Electronic News
Group and how it should be posted. I did have a response from a member
that suggested that I post in the bootleg news group. If any body has
any thing negative to say about that please let me know as I will only
be making one post a week.
Robert Asmus
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Moore [mailto:moxica@a...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 5:45 PM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [tadream] Tangerine Tree MP3's in the Newsgroups
Last night I saw Okeefenokee Dreams on the newsgroup, too. Oh well...
- jim
From: Marcel Engels [mailto:mengels@w...]
I also check some newsgroups from time to time and I saw
a few of my albums passing by.
At one end I'm flattered that I'm in the newsgroups (it may
be a bit of promotion), at the other end I have a bad/weird feeling
about
it, people not buying the album and supporting the artist. Sadly I
cannot do
anything about it, but to say: I will put my lawyers on it. (if I had
them
:-))
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From:
'ethiessen1'
Date: Wed Mar 12, 2003 2:23
am
Subject: ISO: Miles MacMillan & Kevin Keller Re: TT3
There is no email address for either of you in the database-you are
my leaves for TT 3-it would be good to hear from you if you still
want the set.
Eric
From:
Heiko Heerssen
Date: Wed Mar 12, 2003 6:50
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Tangerine Tree MP3's in the Newsgroups
> I started several sets of the first and second trees going on 2 different
> mailing lists I am a member of. I hope this is OK? I was trying to get more
> people onto them. I have heard positive responses from about 80% of the
> people that I know have received them.
Hello Neal,
if possible please give me the names and mailing addresses of those 20% that
didn't like TT
But to answer your question, of course it was ok of you to do this. As long as
there is no profit-making I am happy that the tree is growing outside the 'TD
garden' :-)
Heiko
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From:
mengels@w...
Date: Wed Mar 12, 2003 8:15
am
Subject: RE: [tadream] Tangerine Tree MP3's in the Newsgroups
I noticed it too.
I also noticed that there are 2 the same persons who constantly
upload these albums.
I even have a feeling they are on this list (although I'm
not sure, it's just a feeling...I'm not accusing anyone).
I can only hope that the people who download the albums and
like them will buy them...if not, delete them.
Marcel
http://home.wanadoo.nl/mengels
mengels@w...
Citeren Jim Moore :
> Last night I saw Okeefenokee Dreams on the newsgroup, too. Oh well...
>
> - jim
>
> From: Marcel Engels [mailto:mengels@w...]
> I also check some newsgroups from time to time and I saw
> a few of my albums passing by.
> At one end I'm flattered that I'm in the newsgroups (it may
> be a bit of promotion), at the other end I have a bad/weird feeling about
> it, people not buying the album and supporting the artist. Sadly I cannot
> do
> anything about it, but to say: I will put my lawyers on it. (if I had them
> :-))
>
>
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> ----------------------------------------------------_-
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> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
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>
>
>
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From:
'davespicer99'
Date: Tue Mar 11, 2003 2:24
pm
Subject: Re: Ruling the waves
>
> let´s put it like this... the reason that the track has not been
posted yet
> is that we are having some trouble with our web programmers and, at
the
> moment, do not have time to take care of this ourselves. The track
will be
> posted, though, and we hope it will be up by the end of the week
(...don´t
> kill me if it takes til mid next week, though...)
>
>
Great news!
Any chance of it being put up in a lossless format, such as shn,
rather than grotty old mp3?
--
Dave
From:
'kobaiannative'
Date: Wed Mar 12, 2003 9:09
am
Subject: Re: Tangerine Tree MP3's in the Newsgroups
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, moxica@a... wrote:
> I've been seeing some of the Tangerine Trees popping up in the
> alt.binaries.mp3.electronic newsgroup lately. (I say 'lately' as I
just
I've been trying to find this alt.binaries.mp3.electronic newsgroup
for about the last half hour. Anyone know how I can get access? I
tried to looking the relevent posts up via google, but they don't
list any alt.binaries newsgroups.
From:
'Antonio Nunes'
Date: Wed Mar 12, 2003 10:57
am
Subject: Re: Tangerine Tree MP3's in the Newsgroups
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Heiko Heerssen
wrote:
> But to answer your question, of course it was ok of you to do this.
> As long as
> there is no profit-making I am happy that the tree is growing
outside the 'TD garden' :-)
In order to reinforce this non-profit rule, I'd like to suggest that
the posters always upload the original covers with the 'Never sell or
buy, trade freely' note.
Antonio Nunes
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From:
'colin anderson'
Date: Wed Mar 12, 2003 11:28
am
Subject: Re: Piotr's video
Am I missing something - when I follow the link for this, a zip file is
downloaded, but I can't open it as a corrupted message appears.....
Message: 19
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:12:47 -0600
From: 'Owens, James'
Subject: Piotr's Video
WOW!
Do you make videos professionally? And if no, WHY NOT?
Absolutely Spectacular!
James
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From:
'Robert Asmus'
Date: Wed Mar 12, 2003 11:30
am
Subject: RE: [tadream] Re: Tangerine Tree MP3's in the Newsgroups
Ok I have posted the artwork for the shows that I have posted onto the
news groups. I have also added 'Never Buy or Sell - Trade Freely' to
the header of the artwork posts that I have done.
Robert Asmus
-----Original Message-----
From: Antonio Nunes [mailto:hyperborean@m...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 5:57 AM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] Re: Tangerine Tree MP3's in the Newsgroups
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Heiko Heerssen
wrote:
> But to answer your question, of course it was ok of you to do this.
> As long as
> there is no profit-making I am happy that the tree is growing
outside the 'TD garden' :-)
In order to reinforce this non-profit rule, I'd like to suggest that
the posters always upload the original covers with the 'Never sell or
buy, trade freely' note.
Antonio Nunes
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From:
'Robert Asmus'
Date: Wed Mar 12, 2003 11:34
am
Subject: RE: [tadream] Re: Tangerine Tree MP3's in the Newsgroups
I am only going to post TT1 as 2 and 3 are still very easy for people
to get when they join the group. My intentions were to let fans of
Tangerine Dream know about the Tree Project that may have never heard of
it.
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Asmus [mailto:asmus0324@c...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 6:31 AM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [tadream] Re: Tangerine Tree MP3's in the Newsgroups
Ok I have posted the artwork for the shows that I have posted onto the
news groups. I have also added 'Never Buy or Sell - Trade Freely' to
the header of the artwork posts that I have done.
Robert Asmus
-----Original Message-----
From: Antonio Nunes [mailto:hyperborean@m...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 5:57 AM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] Re: Tangerine Tree MP3's in the Newsgroups
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Heiko Heerssen
wrote:
> But to answer your question, of course it was ok of you to do this.
> As long as
> there is no profit-making I am happy that the tree is growing
outside the 'TD garden' :-)
In order to reinforce this non-profit rule, I'd like to suggest that
the posters always upload the original covers with the 'Never sell or
buy, trade freely' note.
Antonio Nunes
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From:
'billythefish01'
Date: Wed Mar 12, 2003 1:39
pm
Subject: Re: Piotr's video
me too
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'colin anderson'
wrote:
> Am I missing something - when I follow the link for this, a zip
file is downloaded, but I can't open it as a corrupted message
appears.....
>
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:12:47 -0600
> From: 'Owens, James'
> Subject: Piotr's Video
>
> WOW!
>
> Do you make videos professionally? And if no, WHY NOT?
>
> Absolutely Spectacular!
> James
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
From:
'David Wakefield'
Date: Wed Mar 12, 2003 4:24
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Piotr's video
Make sure the file is the complete 13.4mb. The first time I tried it
completed at
7mb and was therefore corrupt.
-------Original Message-------
From: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Date: 12 March 2003 13:40:17
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] Re: Piotr's video
me too
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'colin anderson'
wrote:
> Am I missing something - when I follow the link for this, a zip
file is downloaded, but I can't open it as a corrupted message
appears.....
>
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:12:47 -0600
> From: 'Owens, James'
> Subject: Piotr's Video
>
> WOW!
>
> Do you make videos professionally? And if no, WHY NOT?
>
> Absolutely Spectacular!
> James
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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From:
'Yanick Vigneault'
Date: Wed Mar 12, 2003 6:13
pm
Subject: Personnal TD video project...
Hi there!
I made a small video when I followed my formation in multimedia in
1999: http://membres.lycos.fr/bill07/
I made it in one day. I know that there are some errors with the
images of TD and their decade and also with the URL -
www.tangerinedream.com - at the end of the file which is not the good
one! Be lenient with me!
There is no video sequence, only fixed jpg's images created with
Adobe Premiere software. And there is no comparaison with the video
of Piotr's (Hyperborea) who made a remarkable work!
dREam oN!
Yanick
From:
'gyedid01'
Date: Wed Mar 12, 2003 6:34
pm
Subject: quick question re: Mothers of Rain @ Astoria
Hi, just a quick question about 'Mothers of Rain' as performed at the
Astoria show: was it the 1988 version, or the remixed version from
the _Optical Race_ reissue?
Gabe
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From:
thomas.soucheleau@n...
Date: Wed Mar 12, 2003 11:59
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Tribute CD Tree
Hi,
I can't resist the little glory of seing my name on a record sleeve so count me
in.
Name : Thomas Soucheleau
Location : Paris, France
e-mail address : thomas.soucheleau@n...
Preferred Status : Leaf
See you.
Thomas.
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From:
thomas.soucheleau@n...
Date: Thu Mar 13, 2003 12:01
am
Subject: Re: Re: [tadream] Tribute CD Tree
Oh, crap, I repied to the list instead of Tom.
Sorry...
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From:
'Paul Dryden'
Date: Wed Mar 12, 2003 8:02
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Piotr's video
I got the same!!!!!
Paulus.d
----- Original Message -----
From: 'colin anderson'
To:
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 11:28 AM
Subject: [tadream] Re: Piotr's video
> Am I missing something - when I follow the link for this, a zip file is
downloaded, but I can't open it as a corrupted message appears.....
>
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:12:47 -0600
> From: 'Owens, James'
> Subject: Piotr's Video
>
> WOW!
>
> Do you make videos professionally? And if no, WHY NOT?
>
> Absolutely Spectacular!
> James
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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>
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>
From:
PENFOLD
Date: Thu Mar 13, 2003 5:10
am
Subject: OT: new TD fan
please welcome a potential new TD fan
Paul Vincent Isaacson
03/12/03@9...:17am
2lb 12oz
14.5'
APGAR 6/7
via emergency c-section @ Long Beach Memorial Medical Center.
Dena had an Abrupted Placenta (i.e. when the placenta comes loose from the
uterine wall, which triggers labor)
Paul's resting in LBMMC's Neo-Natal Care Ward
Dena's resting comfortably.....she'll be in hospital until at least this sunday
Pete Isaacson aka °º¤ø,¸DJ DreamHead¸,ø¤º°
mailto:penfold@a...?subject=DJDreamHead
http://www.anet.net/~penfold/)^(djdreamhead.html
Yahoo Chat: penfold235 ····· AIM: PENFOLD235
1984, Saw 'The Keep' LP at Tower Records, actually held it, didn't have the
$$.....Damn!!!!!
'Absence of the KEEP LP is not evidence of its non-existence.' - Steven
Feldman
Watch the Coasters Grow! at: http://www.anet.net/~penfold/coastergarden.html
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From:
'flibbleblah'
Date: Wed Mar 12, 2003 5:27
pm
Subject: Re: Tangerine Tree MP3's in the Newsgroups
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Robert Asmus' wrote:
> I am only going to post TT1 as 2 and 3 are still very easy for people
> to get when they join the group. My intentions were to let fans of
> Tangerine Dream know about the Tree Project that may have never heard of
> it.
Hi all,
I'm new to the group. I hadn't heard of the Tree until recently, nor
this group. I'm excited by the idea of hearing more of TD's concerts.
I've read the info on the site, and would really like to participate
in TT2 and TT3. Is TT2 all over now, though?
(Please be patient with me, as I'm a newbie to this group... :)
Regards,
Matthew
From:
mengels@w...
Date: Thu Mar 13, 2003 7:25
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: new TD fan
Congratulations Pete!
Is it your first baby?
Ours is now 5 months old and I'm enjoying it every bit
as much as it was born!
Have a great time and get some rest. :-)
Marcel
http://home.wanadoo.nl/mengels
mengels@w...
>Citeren PENFOLD :
>
> please welcome a potential new TD fan
>
> Paul Vincent Isaacson
>
> 03/12/03@9...:17am
> 2lb 12oz
> 14.5'
> APGAR 6/7
> via emergency c-section @ Long Beach Memorial Medical Center.
> Dena had an Abrupted Placenta (i.e. when the placenta comes loose
from the
>
> uterine wall, which triggers labor)
>
> Paul's resting in LBMMC's Neo-Natal Care Ward
> Dena's resting comfortably.....she'll be in hospital until at least this
> sunday
>
> Pete Isaacson aka °º¤ø,¸DJ DreamHead¸,ø¤º°
> mailto:penfold@a...?subject=DJDreamHead
> http://www.anet.net/~penfold/)^(djdreamhead.html
> Yahoo Chat: penfold235 ····· AIM: PENFOLD235
> 1984, Saw 'The Keep' LP at Tower Records, actually held it, didn't have the
>
> $$.....Damn!!!!!
> 'Absence of the KEEP LP is not evidence of its non-existence.' - Steven
> Feldman
>
> Watch the Coasters Grow! at:
> http://www.anet.net/~penfold/coastergarden.html
>
>
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From:
TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak
Date: Thu Mar 13, 2003 11:03
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] More Astoria
At 15:18 17.02.03, you wrote:
>Why do you think he was miming the classical guitar?
>
>A friend of mine has a magic guitar effects box that can make
>a piece of string tied to a plank sound like a Gibson. I assumed
>he was just using an effects box.
>
>Dave W
Actually, Zlatko used a special custom Ibanez guitar with an extra piezo
pickup in the bridge that has a separate output. The piezo pickup will make
the guitar sound just like an acoustic guitar (same principle as, for
instance, on an electro-acoustic like the ovation.
That´s the secret ... no miming on any of the guitar parts, I can assure
you as I did the guitar setup myself.
Best regards,
Martin Kasprzak
TDI- Music- Support.
Tel:-49-30-23620995
Fax:-49-30-23620996
Visit our Website at:
http://www.tangerinedream.org
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From:
'Robert Asmus'
Date: Thu Mar 13, 2003 11:32
am
Subject: RE: [tadream] OT: new TD fan
Congrats to you and Dena :)
And get your as much rest now as you will need much energy in the near
future. As I speak from experience with my own son.
Robert Asmus
-----Original Message-----
From: PENFOLD [mailto:penfold@a...]
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:10 AM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] OT: new TD fan
please welcome a potential new TD fan
Paul Vincent Isaacson
03/12/03@9...:17am
2lb 12oz
14.5'
APGAR 6/7
via emergency c-section @ Long Beach Memorial Medical Center.
Dena had an Abrupted Placenta (i.e. when the placenta comes
loose from the
uterine wall, which triggers labor)
Paul's resting in LBMMC's Neo-Natal Care Ward
Dena's resting comfortably.....she'll be in hospital until at least this
sunday
Pete Isaacson aka °º¤ø,¸DJ DreamHead¸,ø¤º°
mailto:penfold@a...?subject=DJDreamHead
http://www.anet.net/~penfold/)^(djdreamhead.html
Yahoo Chat: penfold235 ····· AIM: PENFOLD235
1984, Saw 'The Keep' LP at Tower Records, actually held it, didn't have
the
$$.....Damn!!!!!
'Absence of the KEEP LP is not evidence of its non-existence.' - Steven
Feldman
Watch the Coasters Grow! at:
http://www.anet.net/~penfold/coastergarden.html
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From:
TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak
Date: Thu Mar 13, 2003 12:04
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: new TD fan
At 21:10 12.03.03, you wrote:
>please welcome a potential new TD fan
>
>Paul Vincent Isaacson
>
>03/12/03@9...:17am
>2lb 12oz
>14.5'
>APGAR 6/7
>via emergency c-section @ Long Beach Memorial Medical Center.
> Dena had an Abrupted Placenta (i.e. when the placenta comes loose
> from the
>uterine wall, which triggers labor)
>
>Paul's resting in LBMMC's Neo-Natal Care Ward
>Dena's resting comfortably.....she'll be in hospital until at least this
>sunday
>
>Pete Isaacson aka °º¤ø,¸DJ DreamHead¸,ø¤º°
Cheers, Pete, congrats to you!!!
Best regards,
Martin Kasprzak
TDI- Music- Support.
Tel:-49-30-23620995
Fax:-49-30-23620996
Visit our Website at:
http://www.tangerinedream.org
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
From:
'Peter'
Date: Thu Mar 13, 2003 12:59
pm
Subject: Satuts in Database for TT3
Hey everybody,
I just tried to change my Status in the Database for TT3, as I have
received the discs in the meantime.
But all I have got is a message like this:
''Sorry. You do not have permissions to edit this Record''
That means, I can't change my Status, or??
Cheers
PETE
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From:
Bradley Duke/Cambridge/IBM
Date: Thu Mar 13, 2003 1:11
pm
Subject: Greek TD Flyer
Hi,
Did anyone happen to notice the Greek concert flyer for the Goblin's Club
tour on Ebay?
I didn't think they visited Greece on that tour. Am I wrong?
Item # 2515449385
B
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From:
Heiko Heerssen
Date: Thu Mar 13, 2003 1:40
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Greek TD Flyer
> Did anyone happen to notice the Greek concert flyer for the Goblin's Club
> tour on Ebay?
> I didn't think they visited Greece on that tour. Am I wrong?
> Item # 2515449385
To quote Scott Plumer's 'Mysterious semblance: a Tangerine Dream chronology':
'June 23: Gazi, Athens, Greece. The show was originally scheduled for May 31
at the Lycabettus Theater. Gazi was an old gas factory. Gig was cancelled due
to what TD termed 'troubles with the promoter not being able to provide what
we needed'
Heiko
From:
'matthewsawyer'
Date: Thu Mar 13, 2003 1:48
pm
Subject: Re: Satuts in Database for TT3
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Peter' wrote:
> ''Sorry. You do not have permissions to edit this Record''
>
> That means, I can't change my Status, or??
The TT3 signup database is locked, presumably by Joe. Only he can
unlock it so you cannot update your status at the moment.
The other TT3 database, the branch/leaf assignments one that I set
up, does not have a status field as a lot of people forget to update
their status, which IMHO makes the field a bit pointless.
I would suggest leaves just keep their branch informed when they
recieve their copy, and if anyone finds their branch has gone AWOL
post a message here asking for help or contact me via private email.
Maff
From:
'Michal Moroz'
Date: Thu Mar 13, 2003 2:14
pm
Subject: TT3
Can somebody post me the link to the tt3 leaf / branch scheme? I can't find
it on the lists homepage :)
Greetings
Micha³
From:
Benny Rönnhager
Date: Thu Mar 13, 2003 10:44
am
Subject: Tangerine Dream MIDI files?
Hi dear list!
I wonder if someone knows where to get MIDI files of Tangerine Dream?
Everything is of interest...
Best regards Benny
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From:
'Yanick Vigneault'
Date: Thu Mar 13, 2003 3:43
pm
Subject: Re: Tangerine Dream MIDI files?
There : http://membres.lycos.fr/gilleshemery/
http://nicola.cont.it/td/TD_08.asp
(http://nicola.cont.it - great TD site!)
Ciao!
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Benny Rönnhager
wrote:
> Hi dear list!
>
> I wonder if someone knows where to get MIDI files of Tangerine
Dream?
> Everything is of interest...
>
> Best regards Benny
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From:
'bduke252003'
Date: Thu Mar 13, 2003 4:14
pm
Subject: Re: Patrolling Space Borders
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
I couldn't seem to find the labels on your site....
> Got front, back & cd label
>
> __________________________
> Jarek 'Jerry'
> mailto:jarek@w...
> Visit my websites at:
> http://www.tangerinedream.pl/
> http://www.klausmusic.pl/
> http://www.wiktorowicz.pl/
>
>
> > Hi,
> > Does anyone have a jpeg of the inserts for this boot they could
post?
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Brad (the anal one)
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From:
'Colin Jouxson'
Date: Thu Mar 13, 2003 4:38
pm
Subject: Re: quick question re: Mothers of Rain @ Astoria
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'gyedid01' wrote:
> Hi, just a quick question about 'Mothers of Rain' as performed at
the
> Astoria show: was it the 1988 version, or the remixed version from
> the _Optical Race_ reissue?
>
> Gabe
Hmmm very difficult to tell Gabe
When those first bars of the Mothers kicked in,i was in absolute
heaven,that was the highlight for me whether it was the original
Optical Race release or the remix from the new 3CD,i swear theres
only one Mothers,and this wasthe Original.HOW can we possibly tell?
especially after guzzling to many over priced beers at the Astoria.
Best regards
Colin
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From:
Benny Rönnhager
Date: Thu Mar 13, 2003 4:45
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Tangerine Dream MIDI files?
Thanks a lot :-)
Benny
On Thursday, Mar 13, 2003, at 16:43 Europe/Stockholm, Yanick Vigneault
wrote:
> There : http://membres.lycos.fr/gilleshemery/
> http://nicola.cont.it/td/TD_08.asp
> (http://nicola.cont.it - great TD site!)
>
> Ciao!
>
> --- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Benny Rönnhager
> wrote:
>> Hi dear list!
>>
>> I wonder if someone knows where to get MIDI files of Tangerine
> Dream?
>> Everything is of interest...
>>
>> Best regards Benny
>
>
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>
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>
>
From:
Chris Richards
Date: Thu Mar 13, 2003 5:08
pm
Subject: Re: Outside the TD world
A few of my favorites:
Yes
King Crimson (and related)
The Who
Queen
Kiss
Uriah Heep
Thin Lizzy
Grateful Dead (mainly 72-74 era)
Genesis
Marillion (mainly Fish era)
Hawkwind
Deep Purple
Iron Maiden
Judas Priest
Dixie Dregs/Steve Morse Band
Zebra (shout out to Long Island's
finest!!!!!!!!!)
Frank Zappa
Stravinsky
Ligeti
Stockhausen
Steve Roach
Jimi Hendrix
Can
Nektar
Amon Duul II
Guru Guru
Focus
Gong
Steve Hillage
Van Der Graaf Generator
Anthony Phillips
Ralph Towner
Oregon
The Byrds
Allman Brothers Band
Ozric Tentacles
And lots of other really cool things too numerous
to name!!!!
=====
May you never thirst!
The Scuba Diver Presently Known As Chris
'What do you get when you give a yo-yo to a flock of flamingos?'-James Earl
Jones
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From:
Chris Richards
Date: Thu Mar 13, 2003 5:08
pm
Subject: Re: Outside the TD world
A few of my favorites:
Yes
King Crimson (and related)
The Who
Queen
Jeff Beck
Kiss
Uriah Heep
Thin Lizzy
Grateful Dead (mainly 72-74 era)
Genesis
Marillion (mainly Fish era)
Hawkwind
Deep Purple
Iron Maiden
Judas Priest
Dixie Dregs/Steve Morse Band
Zebra (shout out to Long Island's
finest!!!!!!!!!)
Frank Zappa
Stravinsky
Ligeti
Stockhausen
Steve Roach
Jimi Hendrix
Can
Nektar
Amon Duul II
Guru Guru
Focus
Gong
Steve Hillage
Van Der Graaf Generator
Anthony Phillips
Ralph Towner
Oregon
The Byrds
Allman Brothers Band
Ozric Tentacles
And lots of other really cool things too numerous
to name!!!!
=====
May you never thirst!
The Scuba Diver Presently Known As Chris
'What do you get when you give a yo-yo to a flock of flamingos?'-James Earl
Jones
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From:
'gyedid01'
Date: Thu Mar 13, 2003 5:28
pm
Subject: Re: quick question re: Mothers of Rain @ Astoria
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Colin Jouxson'
wrote:
>i swear theres
> only one Mothers,and this wasthe Original.HOW can we possibly tell?
> especially after guzzling to many over priced beers at the Astoria.
> Best regards
> Colin
Well, it could have been the 1986 UK tour version resurrected...what
matters is that they played, and it's the only 'Melrose Years' track
they played at the concert! (right?)
Gabe
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From:
'Adele Outland'
Date: Thu Mar 13, 2003 5:28
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: new TD fan
Welcome to our newest little Rarebird! At two pounds he has a long way to go
to catch up. My best wishes to all of you. 8-Dell
As time slips into memory, memory fades into dreams.
>From: PENFOLD
>Reply-To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
>To: 'tadream@yahoogroups.com'
>Subject: [tadream] OT: new TD fan
>Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 21:10:10 -0800
>
>please welcome a potential new TD fan
>
>Paul Vincent Isaacson
>
>03/12/03@9...:17am
>2lb 12oz
>14.5'
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From:
Date: Thu Mar 13, 2003 5:38
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Re: Patrolling Space Borders
'cos don't have space enough to keep about 1,5GB of covers... contact me off
list.
__________________________
Jarek 'Jerry'
mailto:jarek@w...
Visit my websites at:
http://www.tangerinedream.pl/
http://www.klausmusic.pl/
http://www.wiktorowicz.pl/
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bduke252003 [mailto:bradley_duke@u...]
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 5:14 PM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [tadream] Re: Patrolling Space Borders
>
>
> --- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
> I couldn't seem to find the labels on your site....
>
> > Got front, back & cd label
> >
> > __________________________
> > Jarek 'Jerry'
> > mailto:jarek@w...
> > Visit my websites at:
> > http://www.tangerinedream.pl/
> > http://www.klausmusic.pl/
> > http://www.wiktorowicz.pl/
> >
> >
> > > Hi,
> > > Does anyone have a jpeg of the inserts for this boot they could
> post?
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Brad (the anal one)
>
>
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>
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>
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>
>
From:
'Piotr Millennium 3'
Date: Thu Mar 13, 2003 6:07
pm
Subject: Message from Palacz ( Hyperborea)
Hi
I'm Palacz (Smoking Man)
First of all sorry to my english is not enough
but I tride write something....
Very thanks for Your nice letters but I don't
knew you like this video-clip.
I did this picture becouse 20 year ago TD
realised HYPERBOREA and first time visit
to my country. For me and my friends this was
the most important events .... and this events
never come back.
I did want to make this video something difference
but my possibility and footage is a humble.
Is there more to come???
I don't know - big problem is a footage, but I
Have a few conceptions and maybe soon....
And finally I want thank two people -
Piotr Millennium for footage and cheer on to
doing this jab to the end , and Jerry to give the
use place for this video in his site.
Cheers,
Palacz (Smoking Man)
From:
kostas karlis
Date: Thu Mar 13, 2003 6:16
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Greek TD Flyer
no they didn't do the show after all
but i do have a copy of a interview [a newspapaer sheet] they do for the
show [before it was cancelled]
kostas from greece athens
recovering from a stungle with his PC...xaxaxa
np TT3 thanxs to my branch for being so quick!!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Heiko Heerssen'
To:
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Greek TD Flyer
>
>
> > Did anyone happen to notice the Greek concert flyer for the Goblin's
Club
> > tour on Ebay?
> > I didn't think they visited Greece on that tour. Am I wrong?
> > Item # 2515449385
>
> To quote Scott Plumer's 'Mysterious semblance: a Tangerine Dream
chronology':
>
> 'June 23: Gazi, Athens, Greece. The show was originally scheduled for May
31
> at the Lycabettus Theater. Gazi was an old gas factory. Gig was cancelled
due
> to what TD termed 'troubles with the promoter not being able to provide
what
> we needed'
>
> Heiko
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
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From:
'Colin Jouxson'
Date: Thu Mar 13, 2003 6:37
pm
Subject: Re: quick question re: Mothers of Rain @ Astoria
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'gyedid01' wrote:
> --- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Colin Jouxson'
> wrote:
> >i swear theres
> > only one Mothers,and this wasthe Original.HOW can we possibly
tell?
> > especially after guzzling to many over priced beers at the
Astoria.
> > Best regards
> > Colin
>
> Well, it could have been the 1986 UK tour version resurrected...what
> matters is that they played, and it's the only 'Melrose Years' track
> they played at the concert! (right?)
>
> Gabe
And what matters is this,what ever version it is,its Bloody
MAGNIFICENT.
From:
'Kevin Ball'
Date: Thu Mar 13, 2003 7:37
pm
Subject: Tangerine Dream News from CD Services
Here's a reliable source for picking up the new CD's.
Kevin.
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TANGERINE DREAM NEWS
TANGERINE DREAM: Astoria Limited Edition EP CDM £ 8.99
Stock # 358672
In the traditions of the band, they played a recent sell-out concert at the
Astoria in London and produced a special limited edition release (1000 only
world-wide!!!) for sale at the concert. In conjunction with the band, we
were able to secure a limited quantity of these exclusive EP's for sale to
all those unlucky enough not to be there. Sure to become yet another highly
prized collectors item, this smart little EP features 3 previously
unreleased new tracks, the first of which is the near six-minute: 'From Kiev
With Love' which has got to be one of the most powerful that the band has
turned out in ages. There is a stomach-churning bass rumbling underneath,
and a juggernaut top layer that features a thoroughly dirty guitar riff,
with huge orchestral sounds coming from a symphony of synths and crunching
percussion. The whole piece is perfectly edited, produced and arranged and
it sounds positively gargantuan as it spirals out of the airwaves - A track
that you'll play to death, that's for sure - Stunning! 'Gate Of Saturn',
again, at just under six minutes, is one of these pieces that starts out
quietly on wondrous layers of flowing cosmic keyboard textures before
picking up a galloping percussive rhythm. Washes of electronic magic are
mixed in as the music ebbs and flows, with odd resonant bass chords booming
out and high-flying lead synths gliding in on top to become a beautiful mix
of the languid and the powerful variety of electronic music. The
seven-minute 'Meta Morph Magic' starts with echoed chords as a whiplash
effect turns in and a pounding deep bass sound is heard and felt in equal
proportions. Then a swirling synth and percussive rhythm starts up, and then
whole sound softens a little while the rhythms start to rebuild and
intensify, then the effects get wilder as the track starts to take off
again. A massively crunching beat strikes out and voice sample propels the
immense and expansive sound canopy ever onward - Again it is hugely powerful
and stunning stuff! For synth music, this is huge sounding, superbly
delivered and massive - Forget who it is and just concentrate on the fact
that it's superb E.M. with real muscle - A real winner in anyone's books. As
mentioned earlier, our stock is limited, so we advise you to order this
quickly as it will sell out fast for sure!
TANGERINE DREAM: Moto Atma CD £ 12.99
Stock # 358673
We are privileged to be the first to be able to give you the full run-down
on the brand new studio album. It runs for fifty-nine minutes, it is
all-instrumental and, in my opinion, it's superb! Opening with deep bass
undercurrents and an incredibly ethereal, flowing synthscape with beautiful
wordless choirs on top, before a sequencer line (yes!!! A sequencer line)
emerges from the depths and the piece continues to drift and flow as it
builds to an extremely full-sounding and celestial sound, as layer upon
layer glides through the airwaves - This is not at all sweet or sugary, but
solid, substantial and satisfying0 electronic music. The feel is of previous
soundtrack work such as 'Firestarter' or 'Exit' or 'Thief', plus the
combination of synths, sequencers, electronic drums and choral voices if
has, makes for one of the finest opening tracks you'll have heard on a TD
album in ages - Eight minutes of sheer bliss! Track 2 continues the thematic
quality, this time with more of a solid percussive rhythmic backing, but
it's a combination of layers, choral textures, synths and soundscapes that
will take you right back to the band's classic soundtrack work from years
gone by - A body of work that remains to this day, seriously underrated,
compared to the 'real' studio albums. The mixture of melodic synths, deep
bass, wordless choral voices, typically TD sounding synthscapes and chunky
rhythms continues, as a wickedly cascading sequencer line emerges, and the
piece becomes sheer heaven as the hairs on the back of your neck rise at the
thrill of (for the first time in a long while) hearing the faint and
familiar strains of TD days gone by - A powerful and atmospheric track that
ends on the most gorgeous choral layer around, and nearly eight more minutes
of true excellence. The 3rd track features bubbling synths, sequence
rhythms, symphonic synth leads and that all-important sense of space that
the group has become known for over the years. With all manner of synth
whooshes and melody lines ebbing and flowing in and out of the mix, the
rhythms and soundscapes move inexorably forward, and the SOUNDS are just
totally spectacular - but you really have to hear it to know what I mean.
The next two tracks continue in the same superb sounding vein - synths,
sequencers and occasional percussive rhythms, all combining to create truly
warm and human compositions, as layer upon layer of rhythm, texture, bass,
melody and atmosphere combine to deliver tracks that are a joy to hear. The
6th track is slightly more ethereal, but still uses some bubbling sequencer
effects. At times it almost sounds a bit like early Mark Shreeve when the
samples emerge above the rhythmic undercurrents and the symphony of ethereal
synths that are flying all around the mix - It's just amazing stuff! Track 7
introduces a very solid percussive rhythm as the layers of keyboards and
electronics create even more rich, melodic leads and celestial soundscapes
on an altogether vintage style of soundtrack music as only this band can
provide - Substantial yet with a feel that is both familiar and fresh!
Finally the 8th track immediately begins in pure anthemic mode - Similar (if
I've got the right one) to the 'Thief' or 'Exit' title tracks - with slow,
deliberate rhythms and synth layers that rise up majestically to soar like
an eagle - A White Eagle - As you stare open-mouthed at the sheer strength
of the synthphonics, rivers of deep bass, heavenly choral voices and the
miles upon miles of electronic sounds that combine to create a truly moving
piece of music. Altogether, one of the finest, most consistent and downright
enjoyable Tangerine Dream albums in years, and one that will go down as a
justifiable gem from the point of view of most fans of the band around
today.
TANGERINE DREAM: Alpha Centauri (Remaster+Orig Art Slipcase+Bonus Track)
968227 CD £ 8.99
Green Desert (Remastered+Original Artwork Slipcase) 302180 CD £ 8.99
Le Parc (Remastered+Original Artwork Slipcase) 302201CD £ 8.99
Poland (Remastered+Original Artwork Slipcase) 310872 CD £ 8.99
Underwater Sunlight (Remastered+Original Art Slipcase) 358669 CD £ 8.99
Zeit (Remastered+Original Art Slipcase) 109802 CD £ 8.99
All of these are now housed inside neat, original artwork card slip-cases,
but I'm homing in on 'Green Desert', the so-called 'link' album that came
between the early Ohr label years and the impending Virgin label years.
Musically, well... it's the Ohr side that wins the day. Very little of this
album bears any resemblance to 'Phaedra' so the idea that this was some kind
of 'practice run' for that album is somewhat misguided, at best - either
that, or it illustrates just how vital a factor in the making of that album
was Peter Baumann, who is not present on this album. But, that said, this is
fantastic stuff, ending the already excellent and ground-breaking Ohr-era
albums, on a real high, as Mellotron choirs, drums, electric guitar and
string synth backdrops provide a genuine mix of melodic and wild to the
nineteen minute title track that opens the album, the sound of the band
maturing at a rate of knots ands really coming into the mass arena with
intention and purpose, structure and execution. It's one of the best early T
Dream tracks around, mixing real crunching, lurching drum work with the
multi-textured sound that the band made their trademark, the layers
constantly shifting and changing, a deep bass as prominent as the soaring
lead synths, a vital factor in the enjoyment of this band's work, where
nothing ever stays the same and interest, development and delivery are kept
at a high throughout. Following this, 'White Clouds' mixes melody with
drums, tunes with strings, synth bass with space effects and is quite a
rumbling five minutes of music, more like later - much later- T Dream than
what was to follow immediately after. 'Astral Voyager' is THE 'Phaedra'
style track, opening with a big, fat beefy sequencer line, accompanied by
lone synth strings and adding layers as it develops, dominated by the
sequencer and one of those tracks that still sends shivers up your spine
every time you hear it, as the melodies emerge from the shadows and the
sheer atmospheric qualities are kept at a peak throughout its seven minute
running time. Finally, the near seven minute 'Indian Summer', a piece that
opens with synth stabs and the sound of the sea - electronic of course -
before a mix of flute-like lead and deep bass are introduced as the somewhat
relaxed track charts its course, pretty close in feel, sound and structure
to a track that followed on a later album - Froese's 'Ages' if I remember
rightly - and simply a strong yet heavenly slice of the band in action,
clearly a Froese-dominated track where composition is concerned. So,
overall, an essential addition to any Tangerine Dream collection and a
thoroughly consistent album from start to finish that hasn't dated one jot.
IMPORTANT: CD SERVICES HAS THE LAST REMAINING COPIES OF THIS DELETED
CLASSIC...
TANGERINE DREAM: Soundmill Navigator CD £13.99
Stock # 266973
I don't suppose we need to tell you too much about this one, but…. It was
recorded 'Live' at the Berlin Philharmonic in 1976 (yes, that's 1976!!!) and
Jeez- is it HOT!!! Just listen to the first five minutes to hear and feel
the sheer emotive quality that this band had! You will soon realise that, no
matter how good all the current crop of copyists are, no one can match the
real thing at its peak! Just try to imagine a current band trying to produce
the feel of the opening ten minutes of this CD - it can't be done!! Sure,
they may manage it to a degree, musically, but the passion of this trio at
this height, will never be matched! - And you know what the ironic thing is
here - it's fifteen minutes in (yes, 15!!!) before a sequencer even begins!
This is an album to add to the 'essential' section of the TD collection, so
grab one while they're still here.
AND COMING SOON...
TANGERINE DREAM: Dream Mixes 4 CD £12.99
Stock # 358674
Well, the next instalment in the series is on it's way, and although we've
not heard it yet, but seeing as we always bring Tangerine Dream releases to
you before anyone else, we thought we would take advantage of the high
profile Tangs content in the little booklet and invite you to place your
pre-orders for it now, so that you can receive it as soon as it gets
released. Remember, we don't charge your card 'till the day it ships to you.
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From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Thu Mar 13, 2003 7:48
pm
Subject: Mota Atma (was: Tangerine Dream News from CD Services)
WOW! I hope I like Mota Atma as much as this guy!
> -----Original Message-----
> CD SERVICES NEWS
> TANGERINE DREAM: Moto Atma CD £ 12.99
> Stock # 358673
> We are privileged to be the first to be able to give you the
> full run-down
> on the brand new studio album. It runs for fifty-nine minutes, it is
> all-instrumental and, in my opinion, it's superb! Opening
> with deep bass
> undercurrents and an incredibly ethereal, flowing synthscape
> with beautiful
> wordless choirs on top, before a sequencer line (yes!!! A
> sequencer line)
> emerges from the depths and the piece continues to drift and
> flow as it
> builds to an extremely full-sounding and celestial sound, as
> layer upon
> layer glides through the airwaves - This is not at all sweet
> or sugary, but
> solid, substantial and satisfying0 electronic music. The feel
> is of previous
> soundtrack work such as 'Firestarter' or 'Exit' or 'Thief', plus the
> combination of synths, sequencers, electronic drums and
> choral voices if
> has, makes for one of the finest opening tracks you'll have
> heard on a TD
> album in ages - Eight minutes of sheer bliss! Track 2
> continues the thematic
> quality, this time with more of a solid percussive rhythmic
> backing, but
> it's a combination of layers, choral textures, synths and
> soundscapes that
> will take you right back to the band's classic soundtrack
> work from years
> gone by - A body of work that remains to this day, seriously
> underrated,
> compared to the 'real' studio albums. The mixture of melodic
> synths, deep
> bass, wordless choral voices, typically TD sounding
> synthscapes and chunky
> rhythms continues, as a wickedly cascading sequencer line
> emerges, and the
> piece becomes sheer heaven as the hairs on the back of your
> neck rise at the
> thrill of (for the first time in a long while) hearing the faint and
> familiar strains of TD days gone by - A powerful and
> atmospheric track that
> ends on the most gorgeous choral layer around, and nearly
> eight more minutes
> of true excellence. The 3rd track features bubbling synths, sequence
> rhythms, symphonic synth leads and that all-important sense
> of space that
> the group has become known for over the years. With all
> manner of synth
> whooshes and melody lines ebbing and flowing in and out of
> the mix, the
> rhythms and soundscapes move inexorably forward, and the
> SOUNDS are just
> totally spectacular - but you really have to hear it to know
> what I mean.
> The next two tracks continue in the same superb sounding vein
> - synths,
> sequencers and occasional percussive rhythms, all combining
> to create truly
> warm and human compositions, as layer upon layer of rhythm,
> texture, bass,
> melody and atmosphere combine to deliver tracks that are a
> joy to hear. The
> 6th track is slightly more ethereal, but still uses some
> bubbling sequencer
> effects. At times it almost sounds a bit like early Mark
> Shreeve when the
> samples emerge above the rhythmic undercurrents and the
> symphony of ethereal
> synths that are flying all around the mix - It's just amazing
> stuff! Track 7
> introduces a very solid percussive rhythm as the layers of
> keyboards and
> electronics create even more rich, melodic leads and
> celestial soundscapes
> on an altogether vintage style of soundtrack music as only
> this band can
> provide - Substantial yet with a feel that is both familiar and fresh!
> Finally the 8th track immediately begins in pure anthemic
> mode - Similar (if
> I've got the right one) to the 'Thief' or 'Exit' title tracks
> - with slow,
> deliberate rhythms and synth layers that rise up majestically
> to soar like
> an eagle - A White Eagle - As you stare open-mouthed at the
> sheer strength
> of the synthphonics, rivers of deep bass, heavenly choral
> voices and the
> miles upon miles of electronic sounds that combine to create
> a truly moving
> piece of music. Altogether, one of the finest, most
> consistent and downright
> enjoyable Tangerine Dream albums in years, and one that will
> go down as a
> justifiable gem from the point of view of most fans of the band around
> today.
From:
'Glenn Folkvord \(Hyperion Media\)'
Date: Thu Mar 13, 2003 8:17
pm
Subject: Outdoor spectacle in Norway
Hey,
Have you ever wanted to participate in the planning of a Tangerine Dream
concert? To join the group of creative people who develop big outdoor
projects?
I cant help you with joining the TD team, but you may help with the planning
of something else: My company is now in charge of organizing an outdoor
multimedia spectacle in Norway, to inaugurate the new House of Culture in
the city of Honefoss. The building complex used to be the city's jail and
court house, but is now being rebuilt for art exhibitions, concerts,
lectures, and other cultural purposes. For example, when the complex opens,
art will be on exhibit in actual prison cells. The concert will be held in
late August or early September.
The concert will in large parts be based on well known electronic songs, and
we are going to use several tracks from T. Dream, which will be remixed for
the occasion by our own team of musicians. In addition, we are going to use
the prison building itself as the canvas for image projections, laser and
other visual effects, plus the surrounding block of 20 meter high business
buildings for visual backdrop. The concert area is estimated to be 12 000
square meters (36 000 square feet).
What I would like to do is combine the creativity of music fans everywhere
to develop ideas and concepts for this event. Based on the concert's frame,
you can participate in the actual planning by taking part in discussions,
exchanging ideas and suggesting content.
And even if you wont be able to witness the concert in person, you will help
promote electronic music because this will be the first performance of it's
kind in Norway.
To join, send a blank email to:
prisonconcert-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
Thanks for reading!
Regards from Glenn Folkvord
Owner, Hyperion Media - arts and media development
glenn@f...
From:
Marko Marin
Date: Fri Mar 14, 2003 8:10
am
Subject: [tadream] OT: Waiting For Cousteau
Waiting For Cousteau starts in a wacky way to say the
least. Calypso's Steel drums reminds me of old games
like Star Tropics (in the 8-bit Nintendo) and the all
time favourite pirate adventure, Monkey Island. It's
fun track, but it last a minute or two too long.
Calypso Part 2, is a whole another issue. It's very
moody at first, even dark. But not dark in a horror
movie style, more like dark just before the sun rises
and lightens up a happy summer day. Actually it kinda
reminds me of some action movie from the golden 80's:
1:25, the company logo (like the 20th Century Fox for
instance) fades out and the traditional main titles
begin. Sun is rising and waking up a city, Los Angeles
perhaps...
2:12 the first credits appear.
2:45 the name of the movie fades in.
3:50-3:57 the main titles end.
3:57 we see the first glimpses from the heroe (or
heroes... remeber Mel Gibson & Danny Glover, Eddie
Murphy & Nick Nolte, Richard Dreyfus & Emilio Estevez,
etc.) chasing a bad guy in a busy street. There are
some nice 'cue points' when the drums come in and out.
The third part from the Calypso-trilogy is very nice.
It steadily grows and gets heavier and the ending is
fabulous because of the electric guitar (is it fake or
a real one?).
The title track is very beautiful. I can easily
imagine a summer day in the shore of a small lake.
The sun glimmers in the water and there aren't no
cars, trains, airplanes near by. Only me and the lake.
Some crickets are keeping steady noise and some birds
sing now and then. There is no hurry. I can just wait
and see what happens. (Uuh, that's deep, man!)
This deserves 9 points out of 10 IMO. The title track
deserves easily 10/10.
Regards,
Marko Marin
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From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Fri Mar 14, 2003 9:45
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Tangerine Dream News from CD Services
>TANGERINE DREAM: Moto Atma CD £ 12.99
>Stock # 358673
>We are privileged to be the first to be able to give you the full run-down
>on the brand new studio album. It runs for fifty-nine minutes, it is
>all-instrumental and, in my opinion, it's superb!
I'd be interested to hear what this guy has said about Mars Polaris... if he
has.
(And what does 'the title track of Thief' mean? Diamond Diary?)
>TANGERINE DREAM: Soundmill Navigator CD £13.99
>Stock # 266973
>I don't suppose we need to tell you too much about this one, but…. It was
>recorded 'Live' at the Berlin Philharmonic in 1976 (yes, that's 1976!!!)
>and
>Jeez- is it HOT!!! Just listen to the first five minutes to hear and feel
>the sheer emotive quality that this band had! You will soon realise that,
>no
>matter how good all the current crop of copyists are, no one can match the
>real thing at its peak! Just try to imagine a current band trying to
>produce
>the feel of the opening ten minutes of this CD - it can't be done!! Sure,
>they may manage it to a degree, musically, but the passion of this trio at
>this height, will never be matched! - And you know what the ironic thing is
>here - it's fifteen minutes in (yes, 15!!!) before a sequencer even begins!
Actually, the ironic thing here is, that the first five minutes *are* made
by a modern band; the modern TD..
John Vertical
np Outland
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From:
Gustavo Jobim
Date: Fri Mar 14, 2003 11:39
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Waiting For Cousteau
nice review of this album. For me, it's one of JMJ's most daring albums.
When I first heard Calypso part 1 it became my favourite JMJ track for a
long time. I don't like the other two much... Interesting thing is that
the vinyl version of the title track is 22 minutes long, while the CD
version goes up to almost 46.
GJ np Sonic Youth - Dirty
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http://www.gustavojobim.hpg.com.br
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From:
'bduke252003'
Date: Fri Mar 14, 2003 1:49
pm
Subject: Re: Tangerine Dream News from CD Services
I have to say, I don't recall being this excited for a forthcoming TD
release in a LONG time.
But this person's review makes me wonder...is it truthful, or merely
a ploy to sell albums?
Regardless - I'll be 'standing in line' for it (and DM4)upon its
street date.
While I'm on a new release kick...as much as I admire the computer
cover art for the TDI catalogue, It sure would be welcome to see some
of Edgar's or Monica's photography or artwork gracing some covers
from time to time. :-)
And DM4 - I think it should mimic the cover art for DM3, but
obviously have the nob adjusted at 4. And when DM10 gets
released...naturally, in the spirit of Spinal Tap, it should
read '11'.
B
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'John Vertical'
wrote:
> >TANGERINE DREAM: Moto Atma CD £ 12.99
> >Stock # 358673
> >We are privileged to be the first to be able to give you the full
run-down
> >on the brand new studio album. It runs for fifty-nine minutes, it
is
> >all-instrumental and, in my opinion, it's superb!
>
>
> I'd be interested to hear what this guy has said about Mars
Polaris... if he
> has.
> (And what does 'the title track of Thief' mean? Diamond Diary?)
>
>
>
> >TANGERINE DREAM: Soundmill Navigator CD £13.99
> >Stock # 266973
> >I don't suppose we need to tell you too much about this one, but….
It was
> >recorded 'Live' at the Berlin Philharmonic in 1976 (yes, that's
1976!!!)
> >and
> >Jeez- is it HOT!!! Just listen to the first five minutes to hear
and feel
> >the sheer emotive quality that this band had! You will soon
realise that,
> >no
> >matter how good all the current crop of copyists are, no one can
match the
> >real thing at its peak! Just try to imagine a current band trying
to
> >produce
> >the feel of the opening ten minutes of this CD - it can't be
done!! Sure,
> >they may manage it to a degree, musically, but the passion of this
trio at
> >this height, will never be matched! - And you know what the ironic
thing is
> >here - it's fifteen minutes in (yes, 15!!!) before a sequencer
even begins!
>
>
> Actually, the ironic thing here is, that the first five minutes
*are* made
> by a modern band; the modern TD..
>
> John Vertical
> np Outland
>
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From:
Dennis Nigbur
Date: Fri Mar 14, 2003 2:07
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Tangerine Dream News from CD Services
On 14 Mar 2003 at 13:49, bduke252003 wrote:
> I have to say, I don't recall being this excited for a forthcoming TD
> release in a LONG time. But this person's review makes me wonder...is
> it truthful, or merely a ploy to sell albums?
They kept it secret really well, and the Astoria concert was the perfect
platform from which to spring it on the listenership. Things are quite
exciting, and the rave review only adds to the anticipation.
From the review, it doesn't sound as if Mota Atma were going to be
another Dream Mixes spin-off, which I personally welcome. This
seems to be a good time for TD...
Dennis
From:
Morgan Feldon
Date: Fri Mar 14, 2003 4:05
pm
Subject: Mota Atma, Soundmill Navigator
The Mota Atma review was very exciting. Until I read...
>TANGERINE DREAM: Soundmill Navigator CD £13.99
>Stock # 266973
>I don't suppose we need to tell you too much about this one, but…. It was
>recorded 'Live' at the Berlin Philharmonic in 1976 (yes, that's 1976!!!) and
>Jeez- is it HOT!!! Just listen to the first five minutes to hear and feel
>the sheer emotive quality that this band had! You will soon realise that, no
>matter how good all the current crop of copyists are, no one can match the
>real thing at its peak! Just try to imagine a current band trying to produce
>the feel of the opening ten minutes of this CD - it can't be done!!
It is difficult to take anything seriously in the whole posting.
The first 6 and last 5 minutes of Soundmill are 2000 studio recordings by
Edgar Froese.
-Morgan
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From:
'Administrator'
Date: Fri Mar 14, 2003 6:12
pm
Subject: tree and leaves (under me)
I will not be able to offering FTP to download. New house does not have the
required access from local telecom to provide more than a dial up (and that
is weak).
I am still unpacking. I have not found my masters to make copies then send
out.
I do have my system back up and running to make the copies.
Please contact me off list to confirm you sent me CD's etc. My main mailing
list and notes did not make it thru the move.
I will be setting up wireless after I find the funds to do so ($600.00 for
just the antenna). This is my only route to pursue at the movement. I am
still looking and researching to what will work in my area within a
reasonable cost.
Dale
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From:
moxica@a...
Date: Fri Mar 14, 2003 7:03
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Mota Atma, Soundmill Navigator
Yeah, but besides the clicking, I like the overall effect of the album better
than the original concert itself. That's not to say I'd like every concert in
this format, but the layering on the original music gives it a unique feel.
I've got a 400-CD carousel player at home, and this album/song always seems to
be at the front of the list when I put the player on shuffle -- I guess it's
kind of grown on me over time.
--
Jim Moore, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
moxica@a...
> The Mota Atma review was very exciting. Until I read...
>
> >TANGERINE DREAM: Soundmill Navigator CD £13.99
>
> It is difficult to take anything seriously in the whole posting.
>
> The first 6 and last 5 minutes of Soundmill are 2000 studio recordings by
> Edgar Froese.
From:
'colin anderson'
Date: Sat Mar 15, 2003 12:09
am
Subject: Re: Tangerine Dream News from CD Services
I used to get CDS's catalogues regularly when I was in Scotland. Their album
reviews - for every artist - were always waaaaaaaay over the top and every
track on an lp would be brilliant, awesome, ground-breaking, blah, blah. I
always put it down to uncontrolled enthusiasm and a simple marketing game on
their part, only not done all that well or discretely. Their review of
Soundmill Navigator says it all (any review with loads of exclamation marks has
got to be suss -does 'HOT' really need three after it?), so take what they say
about Mota Atma with the proverbial pinch of salt, listen to what everyone here
says, and form your own opinions.....
Message: 4
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 13:49:39 -0000
From: 'bduke252003'
Subject: Re:
I have to say, I don't recall being this excited for a forthcoming TD
release in a LONG time.
But this person's review makes me wonder...is it truthful, or merely
a ploy to sell albums?
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
From:
thesmitter@j...
Date: Sat Mar 15, 2003 8:00
am
Subject: Sanctuary label
Can someone tell me if there is a big, if not huge improvement in the sound
quality of the early TD cds being released on the Sanctuary label? Or is this
just a repackage/resell of the same cds yet again? I'm interested in them if
the quality is noticeably better. Though the packaging looks good, really, I
don't hang it on the wall - so what does that matter?
Thanks for your opinions,
Larry
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From:
'colin anderson'
Date: Sat Mar 15, 2003 1:17
am
Subject: Re: TT3
Does anyone have an overview of where this project's at? I've just checked the
database and my name's not on it, even tho' I signed up for it at the time of
TT2........
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From:
Falcon
Date: Sat Mar 15, 2003 8:21
am
Subject: Digital Tape Tree
Hi there,
on the homepage of the Digital Tape Tree (Keen Auricle) is stated, that
their version of the RIAS concert (Berlin 1973) has a better sound quality
than the TT version. Anyone can confirm this ? Can anyone provide me with a
copy of this cdr ? Please contact me off-list.
Ramon
From:
'David Syrett'
Date: Sat Mar 15, 2003 8:14
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Tribute CD Tree
Tom
My details below.
Just had my copy of Dreamwatchers 3 from my branch and it been playing in
the car today.
Great work and look forward to listening the rest.
David
Name DAVID SYRETT
Location (City/State/Country) COLCHESTER, ESSEX, UK
e-mail address david_syrett@h...
Preferred Status LEAF
From:
'HANS'
Date: Fri Mar 14, 2003 6:56
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] tree and leaves (under me)
Hello
just a note to help about the Elvis tree 3 (audio) just in case you need
them.
Hans Lau
7 36th Avenue NE.
Fargo ND 58102
<< >>
Okay, for six cds, I'd like:
DEVO FUTURE OF ROCK? BEGINNINGS CLUB, CHICAGO
CENTRAL PARK, NYC Dec-78 7/12/80 - 1
>(is that all on one cd?)
>CLASH TRICK OR TREAT BONDS IN NYC 10/31/82 HEAD 1
>CLASH YELLOW RIOT TOKYO , JAPAN 1982 SOUNDBOARD 1
>SMITH, PATTI LET'S DEODORIZE THE NIGHT BOTTOM LINE 1975
> - 1
>SMITH, PATTI LIVE AT CBGS'S CBGB'S NEW YORK CITY 1979
> SOUNDBOARD 2
<<<<<<<< >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
My address appears below, but please do NOT mail until I've told you
that the discs are in my hands!
Thanks!
dale
--
a.d. jensen
4625 Loamy Hills Place
Grand Forks, ND 58201
USA
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Administrator'
To:
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 12:12 PM
Subject: [tadream] tree and leaves (under me)
> I will not be able to offering FTP to download. New house does not have
the
> required access from local telecom to provide more than a dial up (and
that
> is weak).
>
> I am still unpacking. I have not found my masters to make copies then send
> out.
>
> I do have my system back up and running to make the copies.
>
> Please contact me off list to confirm you sent me CD's etc. My main
mailing
> list and notes did not make it thru the move.
>
> I will be setting up wireless after I find the funds to do so ($600.00 for
> just the antenna). This is my only route to pursue at the movement. I am
> still looking and researching to what will work in my area within a
> reasonable cost.
>
> Dale
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
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> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
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>
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> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
From:
Richard
Date: Sat Mar 15, 2003 12:35
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Klaus Schulze is doing something soon
Is it possible to download it?
>got it in on cdr/shn if anyone is interested.
>
>--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'John Marchington' wrote:
>> I would be too!
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: 'Armin Theissen'
>> To:
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 4:48 AM
>> Subject: Re: [tadream] Klaus Schulze is doing something soon
>>
>>
>> >
>> > It says that KS will give autographs at the Alesis-booth
>> > on the music fair in Frankfurt on March 8th (exhibition
>> > hall 5) from 12 to 3:30 pm. He will also distribute
>> > 200 signed CDs with a 20 minute piece called 'Andromeda'
>> > especially composed for Alesis.
>> >
>> >
>> > Will somebody be there? Naturarlly I'm keen on that CD!
>> >
>> > armin
>> >
>> >
>> > Glynn Naughton wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hello,
>> > >
>> > > I was just rooting around on Rainhorse records' site and saw this:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >>Music sounds better with you
>> > >>Klaus Schulze wird am 08. März 2003 auf dem Alesis-Stand (Halle 5)
>> > >>anlässlich der diesjährigen Musikmesse in Frankfurt (05. - 09. März
>> > >>2003 ) von 12:00 bis 13:30 Uhr Autogramme geben. Dabei werden
>> > >>auch .200 signierte Cd's mit einem speziell für Alesis komponierten
>> > >>Titel (Andromeda ca. 20 Minuten) von KS verteilt. See u there!
>> > >>Alle Informationen zur Musikmesse in Frankfurt findet Ihr unter
>> > >>www.musikmesse.de.
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > > I suspect that this says that KS will be signing autographs at this
>> > > Musikmesse thingy a week next Saturday, but as my German is as rusty
>> > > as old shipyards, I'm not really sure. Perhaps someone who reads
>> > > German can elucidate?
>> > >
>> > > Glynn
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ----------------------------------------------------_-
>> > > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>> > > ----------------------------------------------------_-
>> > > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
>> > > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>> > >
>> > > Tangerine Tree info at
>> > > http://www.tadream.net/tree
>> > >
>> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
>> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
>> > Armin dot Theissen at sun dot com phone x19080
>> > SUN Microsystems Ireland
>> >
>> > 'To you I'm an atheist; to God, I'm the Loyal Opposition.'
>> > - Woody Allen
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
>> > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
>> > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
>> > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>> >
>> > Tangerine Tree info at
>> > http://www.tadream.net/tree
>> >
>> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
>http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------_-
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>----------------------------------------------------_-
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>http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
>Tangerine Tree info at
>http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
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From:
'Robert Asmus'
Date: Sat Mar 15, 2003 12:33
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Re: Klaus Schulze is doing something soon
Yes I am interested :) Please let me know how I can get it
Robert Asmus
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard [mailto:richard@l...]
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 7:36 AM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Klaus Schulze is doing something soon
Is it possible to download it?
>got it in on cdr/shn if anyone is interested.
>
>--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'John Marchington' wrote:
>> I would be too!
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: 'Armin Theissen'
>> To:
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 4:48 AM
>> Subject: Re: [tadream] Klaus Schulze is doing something soon
>>
>>
>> >
>> > It says that KS will give autographs at the Alesis-booth
>> > on the music fair in Frankfurt on March 8th (exhibition
>> > hall 5) from 12 to 3:30 pm. He will also distribute
>> > 200 signed CDs with a 20 minute piece called 'Andromeda'
>> > especially composed for Alesis.
>> >
>> >
>> > Will somebody be there? Naturarlly I'm keen on that CD!
>> >
>> > armin
>> >
>> >
>> > Glynn Naughton wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hello,
>> > >
>> > > I was just rooting around on Rainhorse records' site and saw
this:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >>Music sounds better with you
>> > >>Klaus Schulze wird am 08. März 2003 auf dem Alesis-Stand (Halle
5)
>> > >>anlässlich der diesjährigen Musikmesse in Frankfurt (05. - 09.
März
>> > >>2003 ) von 12:00 bis 13:30 Uhr Autogramme geben. Dabei werden
>> > >>auch .200 signierte Cd's mit einem speziell für Alesis
komponierten
>> > >>Titel (Andromeda ca. 20 Minuten) von KS verteilt. See u there!
>> > >>Alle Informationen zur Musikmesse in Frankfurt findet Ihr unter
>> > >>www.musikmesse.de.
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > > I suspect that this says that KS will be signing autographs at
this
>> > > Musikmesse thingy a week next Saturday, but as my German is as
rusty
>> > > as old shipyards, I'm not really sure. Perhaps someone who reads
>> > > German can elucidate?
>> > >
>> > > Glynn
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ----------------------------------------------------_-
>> > > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>> > > ----------------------------------------------------_-
>> > > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
>> > > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>> > >
>> > > Tangerine Tree info at
>> > > http://www.tadream.net/tree
>> > >
>> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
>> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
>> > Armin dot Theissen at sun dot com phone x19080
>> > SUN Microsystems Ireland
>> >
>> > 'To you I'm an atheist; to God, I'm the Loyal Opposition.'
>> > - Woody Allen
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
>> > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
>> > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
>> > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>> >
>> > Tangerine Tree info at
>> > http://www.tadream.net/tree
>> >
>> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
>http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------_-
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>----------------------------------------------------_-
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>
>Tangerine Tree info at
>http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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>
>
>
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From:
Date: Sat Mar 15, 2003 1:47
pm
Subject: again two Re-Releases on ...
Hello all,
two new re-releases will be released on Castle Records at 17-March-2003:
- Underwater sunlight
- Poland - The Warsaw Concert
Cheers
heiko - mr. Optical
http://www.tribute-to-ashra.de
http://www.opticaldream.de
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From:
David Butler
Date: Sun Mar 16, 2003 1:04
am
Subject: Vanity Fair
So, I'm sitting around reading Vanity Fair...blah,
blah, blah. There is an article by James Wolcott about
the films of Michael Mann, albeit mostly about Heat.
Anyway, here's an excerpt...
'The other signature mood-enhancer in Mann's work is
the atmospheric texturing of the music soundtrack.
(yadda yadda about Miami Vice and Crime Story) Mann's
first theatrical film, Thief, featured an original
score by Tangerine Dream (of whom Lester Bangs wrote,
'They sound like silt seeping on the ocean floor')...'
Hmmm...trying to figure out if that is bad or good.
Any thoughts?
Just thought you'd all like to know....David
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Guilty secrets
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Ask and you shall recieve with a bonus
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Admin
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From:
'vic rek'
Date: Sun Mar 16, 2003 4:04
am
Subject: Email Change for Vic Rek
I just changed my email to:
tangerinedream@h...
If you tried to reach me in the last few days, you may have had problems -
so please re-send.
Please use this NEW email from now on.
VicRek
From:
Felna Greymane
Date: Sun Mar 16, 2003 4:18
am
Subject: Rereleases
Do you know which version of Poland it will be? I know of at least 3
separate versions (though there may be more).
>Hello all,
>
>two new re-releases will be released on Castle Records at 17-March-2003:
>
>- Underwater sunlight
>- Poland - The Warsaw Concert
>
>Cheers
>heiko - mr. Optical
>http://www.tribute-to-ashra.de
>http://www.opticaldream.de
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From:
'heineu'
Date: Sun Mar 16, 2003 10:46
am
Subject: Re: Rereleases
Hello,
the re-release of POLAND are the complete version with all four
tracks.
Cheers
heiko - mr. Optical
http://www.opticaldream.de
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Felna Greymane wrote:
> Do you know which version of Poland it will be? I know of at
least 3
> separate versions (though there may be more).
>
> >Hello all,
> >
> >two new re-releases will be released on Castle Records at 17-March-
2003:
> >
> >- Underwater sunlight
> >- Poland - The Warsaw Concert
> >
> >Cheers
> >heiko - mr. Optical
> >http://www.tribute-to-ashra.de
> >http://www.opticaldream.de
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From:
Falcon
Date: Sun Mar 16, 2003 12:38
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Rereleases
Hi,
At 11:46 AM 3/16/2003, you wrote:
>the re-release of POLAND are the complete version with all four
>tracks.
but Barbakane is still the short version ?
Ramon
From:
Date: Sun Mar 16, 2003 12:51
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Re: Rereleases
The complete version of the Poland album is the 2CD release which contains
four full lenght tracks as found on the double vinyl release.
__________________________
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: heineu [mailto:heiko@o...]
> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 11:47 AM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [tadream] Re: Rereleases
>
>
> Hello,
>
> the re-release of POLAND are the complete version with all four
> tracks.
>
> Cheers
> heiko - mr. Optical
> http://www.opticaldream.de
>
>
> --- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Felna Greymane wrote:
> > Do you know which version of Poland it will be? I know of at
> least 3
> > separate versions (though there may be more).
> >
> > >Hello all,
> > >
> > >two new re-releases will be released on Castle Records at 17-March-
> 2003:
> > >
> > >- Underwater sunlight
> > >- Poland - The Warsaw Concert
> > >
> > >Cheers
> > >heiko - mr. Optical
> > >http://www.tribute-to-ashra.de
> > >http://www.opticaldream.de
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
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From:
'heineu'
Date: Sun Mar 16, 2003 1:06
pm
Subject: Re: Rereleases
Well, I cant say at this moment is it the full complete version of
Poland, on the description of the Label is standing that the CD has 4
tracks. No other informations. Sorry. But I think very soon more
about this on my homepage. new re-releases are on order.
Cheers
Heiko,
http://www.opticaldream.de
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
> The complete version of the Poland album is the 2CD release which
contains
> four full lenght tracks as found on the double vinyl release.
>
> __________________________
> Jarek 'Jerry'
> mailto:jarek@w...
> Visit my websites at:
> http://www.tangerinedream.pl/
> http://www.klausmusic.pl/
> http://www.wiktorowicz.pl/
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: heineu [mailto:heiko@o...]
> > Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 11:47 AM
> > To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [tadream] Re: Rereleases
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > the re-release of POLAND are the complete version with all four
> > tracks.
> >
> > Cheers
> > heiko - mr. Optical
> > http://www.opticaldream.de
> >
> >
> > --- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Felna Greymane
wrote:
> > > Do you know which version of Poland it will be? I know of at
> > least 3
> > > separate versions (though there may be more).
> > >
> > > >Hello all,
> > > >
> > > >two new re-releases will be released on Castle Records at 17-
March-
> > 2003:
> > > >
> > > >- Underwater sunlight
> > > >- Poland - The Warsaw Concert
> > > >
> > > >Cheers
> > > >heiko - mr. Optical
> > > >http://www.tribute-to-ashra.de
> > > >http://www.opticaldream.de
> >
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> >
> >
> >
From:
Shez
Date: Sun Mar 16, 2003 11:36
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] again two Re-Releases on ...
I think Tiger is also rereleased the same day.
On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 14:47:36 +0100, you wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>two new re-releases will be released on Castle Records at 17-March-2003:
>
>- Underwater sunlight
>- Poland - The Warsaw Concert
>
>Cheers
>heiko - mr. Optical
>http://www.tribute-to-ashra.de
>http://www.opticaldream.de
>
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From:
Jonathan Holt
Date: Sun Mar 16, 2003 4:15
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Vanity Fair/BBC 6 Music
There is a series on BBC Radio 6 Music, I believe it
is called 'My Life in Cd's' or something similar,
where various music stars put cd's to parts of their
lives. Jah Wobble's 'guilty secret' was Tangerine
Dream.
Why 'guilty'?!
Oh well, at least they got a mention!
--- David Butler wrote: > So,
I'm sitting around reading Vanity Fair...blah,
> blah, blah. There is an article by James Wolcott
> about
> the films of Michael Mann, albeit mostly about Heat.
> Anyway, here's an excerpt...
> 'The other signature mood-enhancer in Mann's work is
> the atmospheric texturing of the music soundtrack.
> (yadda yadda about Miami Vice and Crime Story)
> Mann's
> first theatrical film, Thief, featured an original
> score by Tangerine Dream (of whom Lester Bangs
> wrote,
> 'They sound like silt seeping on the ocean
> floor')...'
>
> Hmmm...trying to figure out if that is bad or good.
> Any thoughts?
> Just thought you'd all like to know....David
>
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From:
Morgan Feldon
Date: Sun Mar 16, 2003 6:33
pm
Subject: Poland Re-release
>Well, I cant say at this moment is it the full complete version of
>Poland, on the description of the Label is standing that the CD has 4
>tracks. No other informations. Sorry. But I think very soon more
>about this on my homepage.
Maybe someone at the record label reads this list and saw one of our
postings about how to trim the complete Poland to fit on 1 CD. :)
You can get the entire 4 tracks on one 80 min CD if you:
-Omit the introduction in Polish (it IS real, but the announcer was not
present, it was a taped announcement played back before the show) [45 sec]
-Repair the gap between 'Poland' and 'Tangent'. Originally there was no
gap. [24 sec]
-Omit some of the applause at the end of Tangent [33 sec]
-Move Rarebird to the end of the CD where it should be (not necessary, but
why not?)
-Trim a little bit of applause before Rarebird [4 sec]
-Remove ambience before Barbakane starts [5 sec]
-Remove gap between Barbakane and Horizon [7 sec]
And while I was at it, I split up the 4 tracks into indexes. My Poland CD
in my car is 13 tracks. :)
-Morgan
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From:
Date: Mon Mar 17, 2003 12:55
am
Subject: Private Music re-issues
Hello All,
Any word on when or if the new re-issues from Private Music will be released
individually? And if the corrected track will be......corrected?
Thanks
Neal
From:
Gustavo Jobim
Date: Mon Mar 17, 2003 2:07
am
Subject: DWT 3 tree
Hello everyone,
maybe I missed something, but I'd like to know if everyone's got their DWT3
cds or has the tree structure not been posted yet?
------
Gustavo Jobim
http://www.gustavojobim.hpg.com.br
gustavojobim@s...
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From:
'Pergamon'
Date: Mon Mar 17, 2003 2:28
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] DWT 3 tree
I haven't................
Jan
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Gustavo Jobim'
To:
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 3:07 AM
Subject: [tadream] DWT 3 tree
> Hello everyone,
> maybe I missed something, but I'd like to know if everyone's got their
DWT3
> cds or has the tree structure not been posted yet?
>
> ------
> Gustavo Jobim
> http://www.gustavojobim.hpg.com.br
> gustavojobim@s...
>
>
>
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From:
'Robert Asmus'
Date: Mon Mar 17, 2003 2:42
am
Subject: RE: [tadream] DWT 3 tree
No I have not received my DWT 3 yet. I misplaced the email
That had the name of the person that was supposed to be my
Branch. I still would like to get DWT 3.
Robert Asmus
-----Original Message-----
From: Gustavo Jobim [mailto:gustavojobim@s...]
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 9:08 PM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] DWT 3 tree
Hello everyone,
maybe I missed something, but I'd like to know if everyone's got their
DWT3
cds or has the tree structure not been posted yet?
------
Gustavo Jobim
http://www.gustavojobim.hpg.com.br
gustavojobim@s...
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From:
'fozziebear'
Date: Mon Mar 17, 2003 5:24
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] again two Re-Releases on ...
'I think Tiger is also rereleased the same day'
Will that be the Siberian, Benegal or African?
David
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From:
Marko Marin
Date: Mon Mar 17, 2003 8:20
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Waiting For Cousteau
--- Gustavo Jobim wrote:
> nice review of this album. For me, it's one of JMJ's
> most daring albums.
> When I first heard Calypso part 1 it became my
> favourite JMJ track for a
> long time. I don't like the other two much...
> Interesting thing is that
> the vinyl version of the title track is 22 minutes
> long, while the CD
> version goes up to almost 46.
But I have a question... which half is the one that
occupied the second side of the lp? 0:00-23:00 or
23:00-46:00?
Regards,
Marko Marin
=====
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From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Mon Mar 17, 2003 8:21
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] again two Re-Releases on ...
> 'I think Tiger is also rereleased the same day'
>
>Will that be the Siberian, Benegal or African?
>
>David
There's no tigers in Africa... we could use the Sumatran tiger for the 3rd
Tyger version.
John Vertical
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From:
'Glynn Naughton'
Date: Mon Mar 17, 2003 8:58
am
Subject: Guilty secrets
>From: Jonathan Holt
>Date: Sun Mar 16, 2003 4:15 pm
>Subject: Re: [tadream] Vanity Fair/BBC 6 Music
>
>There is a series on BBC Radio 6 Music, I believe it
>is called 'My Life in Cd's' or something similar,
>where various music stars put cd's to parts of their
>lives. Jah Wobble's 'guilty secret' was Tangerine
>Dream.
>
>Why 'guilty'?!
>
>Oh well, at least they got a mention!
Didn't Jah Wobble (God, I hate it when grown men use
stupid nicknames) come from the punk world? In which
case it would probably have been suicidal to admit a
liking for a bunch of boring old hippies like Tangerine
Dream.
However, as he went on to make a record based on
Blake's poetry, perhaps TD has influenced him more
than he cares to admit.
My own guilty secret: Shirley Bassey! Favourite song
(which must rank as one of the corniest songs ever):
'Moonraker'. This is the kind of music you play with
the volume low so the neighbours won't know what
you're listening to.
Glynn
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From:
Dennis Nigbur
Date: Mon Mar 17, 2003 9:48
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: TT3
Where _is_ the TT3 database? When I last checked, the links from the
tadream home page only took me to the tree structures for TT1 and 2.
I haven't had any replies to several previous messages about signing
up for TT3. I do hope I'm on it!
Dennis
On 15 Mar 2003 at 11:17, colin anderson wrote:
> Does anyone have an overview of where this project's at? I've just
> checked the database and my name's not on it, even tho' I signed up
> for it at the time of TT2........
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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From:
'billythefish01'
Date: Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:04
am
Subject: Re: again two Re-Releases on ...
A Tiger? In Africa?
(cue endless Monty Python posts to annoy all the TD and Dr. Who fans
out there...)
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'fozziebear'
wrote:
> 'I think Tiger is also rereleased the same day'
>
> Will that be the Siberian, Benegal or African?
>
> David
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From:
'billythefish01'
Date: Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:26
am
Subject: Re: Guilty secrets
Jah Wobble was the Bassist with Public Image Ltd.- Johhny Rotten's
post Sex Pistols band.
He has worked with loads of people not too far from TD's world -
such as HOLGER CZUKAY, JAKI LIEBEZEIT, BRIAN ENO and BILL LASWELL.
So, no idea why this should be a 'guilty secret'... Shirley Bassey
on the other hand...
;-)
(My guitly secret is the Frank Chickens)
> Didn't Jah Wobble (God, I hate it when grown men use
> stupid nicknames) come from the punk world? In which
> case it would probably have been suicidal to admit a
> liking for a bunch of boring old hippies like Tangerine
> Dream.
>
> However, as he went on to make a record based on
> Blake's poetry, perhaps TD has influenced him more
> than he cares to admit.
>
> My own guilty secret: Shirley Bassey! Favourite song
> (which must rank as one of the corniest songs ever):
> 'Moonraker'. This is the kind of music you play with
> the volume low so the neighbours won't know what
> you're listening to.
>
> Glynn
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From:
'Yanick Vigneault'
Date: Mon Mar 17, 2003 1:29
pm
Subject: Re: Guilty secrets
> ...
> My own guilty secret: Shirley Bassey! Favourite song
> (which must rank as one of the corniest songs ever):
> 'Moonraker'...
>
> Glynn
I very like 'History Repeating' from Propellerheads
Decksandrumsandrockandroll featuring Shirley Bassey! ;-))
Yanick
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From:
Steven Feldman
Date: Mon Mar 17, 2003 1:44
pm
Subject: Guilty Secrets: Duran Duran and Tammy Wynette
Two of my guilty secrets are Duran Duran and Tammy Wynette. Oh,
and Madonna. That makes three.
-- Steven Feldman
------------------------------+--------------------+------------------+
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------------------------------+--------------------+------------------+
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From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Mon Mar 17, 2003 3:22
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Vanity Fair
I can't imagine seeping silt being a good thing. It sounds like an
extremely clever way to say: 'the music is unchanging and monotonous',
though I suppose it could be a much less clever (so as to be nearly
unintelligible) way to say: 'the music is broad-spanning with subtle,
shifting variations'.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Butler [mailto:daventura98@y...]
> Mann's
> first theatrical film, Thief, featured an original
> score by Tangerine Dream (of whom Lester Bangs wrote,
> 'They sound like silt seeping on the ocean floor')...'
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From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Mon Mar 17, 2003 3:28
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Poland Re-release
I have Morgan's version of the Poland 1 disc, and I must say it's excellent.
I like the higher indexing. I've always thought the gap between Poland and
Tangent was irritating, and I LOVE having the encore at the end where it
whould be! I almost never pull out my 2-disc set anymore!
Thanks Morgan!
James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Morgan Feldon [mailto:feldon@f...]
>
> Maybe someone at the record label reads this list and saw one of our
> postings about how to trim the complete Poland to fit on 1 CD. :)
>
> You can get the entire 4 tracks on one 80 min CD if you:
(--snip--)
From:
Jonathan Holt
Date: Mon Mar 17, 2003 3:39
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: again two Re-Releases on ...
LMAO! You just beat me to it :-)
--- billythefish01 wrote: >
A Tiger? In Africa?
>
> (cue endless Monty Python posts to annoy all the TD
> and Dr. Who fans
> out there...)
>
>
> --- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'fozziebear'
> wrote:
> > 'I think Tiger is also rereleased the same day'
> >
> > Will that be the Siberian, Benegal or African?
> >
> > David
>
>
>
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From:
Gustavo Jobim
Date: Mon Mar 17, 2003 6:35
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Waiting For Cousteau
>But I have a question... which half is the one that
>occupied the second side of the lp? 0:00-23:00 or
>23:00-46:00? Regards, Marko Marin
I have no idea.
------
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From:
'fozziebear'
Date: Mon Mar 17, 2003 7:01
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Guilty secrets
billythefish01 said (My guitly secret is the Frank Chickens)
Mine too! I even have live tapes
David
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From:
'fozziebear'
Date: Mon Mar 17, 2003 7:28
pm
Subject: Mota Atma and DM4
Martin
Will TDI be doing any specials on Mota Atma and DM4 through the web site or do
we have to shop at the usual suspects?
David
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From:
'Paul Dryden'
Date: Mon Mar 17, 2003 8:14
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Guilty Secrets: Duran Duran and Tammy Wynette
My guilty secret:Tomita and Howard Jones!
Paulus.d
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Steven Feldman'
To:
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 1:44 PM
Subject: [tadream] Guilty Secrets: Duran Duran and Tammy Wynette
> Two of my guilty secrets are Duran Duran and Tammy Wynette. Oh,
> and Madonna. That makes three.
>
> -- Steven Feldman
> ------------------------------+--------------------+------------------+
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> ------------------------------+--------------------+------------------+
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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>
>
>
>
From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Mon Mar 17, 2003 9:49
pm
Subject: Happy St. Paddy's day
To all fellow TD fans that are Irish by nationality, heritage, or spirit, I
raise a pint o' Guiness to you!
James
np - in honor of the day: ENYA (guilty pleasure ?-)
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From:
'Glenn Folkvord \(Hyperion Media\)'
Date: Tue Mar 18, 2003 12:09
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Happy St. Paddy's day
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Owens, James'
> np - in honor of the day: ENYA (guilty pleasure ?-)
Isnt she Gaelic? Is that the same as Irish?
glenn
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From:
Robert Grabowsky
Date: Tue Mar 18, 2003 12:20
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Happy St. Paddy's day
Gaelic is the Scottish language and not the same as Irish
THE HIGHLANDER
At 01:09 AM 3/18/03 +0100, you wrote:
>----- Original Message -----
>From: 'Owens, James'
>
>> np - in honor of the day: ENYA (guilty pleasure ?-)
>
>Isnt she Gaelic? Is that the same as Irish?
>
>glenn
From:
Gustavo Jobim
Date: Mon Mar 17, 2003 6:35
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Guilty secrets
>Jah Wobble(...) He has worked with loads of people (...) and BILL LASWELL.
$0.01:
I've heard some from a CD Jah Wobble made with Bill Laswell... it's that
dub-thing kind of EM, not my cup of tea.
gj np. Synkopy - Slunecní Hodiny (amazing, delicious, astonishing Czech
prog rock album). makes me want to learn Czech (there are some lyrics here
and there)
------
Gustavo Jobim
http://www.gustavojobim.hpg.com.br
gustavojobim@s...
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Ask and you shall recieve with a bonus
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From:
Robert Grabowsky
Date: Tue Mar 18, 2003 2:06
am
Subject: Ask and you shall recieve with a bonus
With all the recent talk about the Andromeda disc, it is now time for me to
say a few words.
After the first mention of KS handing out signed copies of this disc in
Frankfurt, I decided I wanted a copy of this disc also. One major problem
tho, I could not fly to Frankfurt to get one. I knew a few people might go
and thought I would wait and get a CDR copy from someone. Then I thought on
it a little more and decided to contact Alesis and see if they could at the
very least get me a CDR copy of this disc. I wrote them a letter with my
question and stating that I only wanted a CDR copy of this if possible and
that I was a fan of KS and keyboards and synthesizers. I also told them I
had several pieces in my collection that were already signed so an
autograph was not needed.
A lady responded with an e-mail and said she would see what she could do
for me. About 2 weeks later I recieved another e-mail asking for my
address. I sent my address along with arequest for info on thier keyboards
and synths.
Today, I recieved a large envelope from Alesis. Inside was a catalog of
the keyboards and synths along with one of the actual discs that was handed
out at the music show in Frankfurt. I thought this was great!! Then I
turned the cardboard sleeved disc over to find it was signed 'To Robert,
Klaus Schulze'. I was very surprised.
EAT YOUR HEARTS OUT!!!!
THE HIGHLANDER
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From:
'gyedid01'
Date: Tue Mar 18, 2003 2:49
am
Subject: Re: Guilty secrets
I'll get on the wagon and state my guilty secret: Depeche Mode.
Gabe
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From:
'Jim Moore'
Date: Tue Mar 18, 2003 3:48
am
Subject: RE: [tadream] Vanity Fair
When has Vanity Fair ever had anything nice to say? The whole purpose of
the magazine is to pooh-pooh any trend or fashion that's over 10 minutes old
and to elevate the media types that watch the clock. A waste of trees, in
my opinion...
- jim
-----Original Message-----
From: Owens, James [mailto:james.owens@m...]
I can't imagine seeping silt being a good thing. It sounds like an
extremely clever way to say: 'the music is unchanging and monotonous',
though I suppose it could be a much less clever (so as to be nearly
unintelligible) way to say: 'the music is broad-spanning with subtle,
shifting variations'.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Butler [mailto:daventura98@y...]
> Mann's
> first theatrical film, Thief, featured an original
> score by Tangerine Dream (of whom Lester Bangs wrote,
> 'They sound like silt seeping on the ocean floor')...'
From:
Michael Fox
Date: Tue Mar 18, 2003 4:24
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Guilty secrets/Depeche Mode
When I lived in Cincinnati, Ohio, back in the 80's I did monitor sound for
a show they did there at Bogart's. A couple songs into their set, the
computers went bonkers and after many an attempt to get them sorted, the
band gave up. All this while, I am behind a gang of house speakers,
oblivious to the crowd, until the occasional beer bottle is tossed on
stage. As the band worked to get the gear working, the crowd grew
increasingly angry, the bottle to stage quotient increasing; the band
looked my way as if I can settle things. By this time, no way am I going to
set foot on stage to quell this mess. DM left with a rather less than
favorable image of the city, I imagine.
Mike
ps to KenB--the discs are coming!!
At 02:49 AM 03/18/2003 +0000, you wrote:
>I'll get on the wagon and state my guilty secret: Depeche Mode.
From:
'Admin'
Date: Tue Mar 18, 2003 4:31
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Ask and you shall recieve with a bonus
You are so special...
;-)
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Robert Grabowsky'
To:
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 6:06 PM
Subject: [tadream] Ask and you shall recieve with a bonus
> With all the recent talk about the Andromeda disc, it is now time for me
to
> say a few words.
>
> After the first mention of KS handing out signed copies of this disc in
> Frankfurt, I decided I wanted a copy of this disc also. One major problem
> tho, I could not fly to Frankfurt to get one. I knew a few people might go
> and thought I would wait and get a CDR copy from someone. Then I thought
on
> it a little more and decided to contact Alesis and see if they could at
the
> very least get me a CDR copy of this disc. I wrote them a letter with my
> question and stating that I only wanted a CDR copy of this if possible and
> that I was a fan of KS and keyboards and synthesizers. I also told them I
> had several pieces in my collection that were already signed so an
> autograph was not needed.
> A lady responded with an e-mail and said she would see what she could
do
> for me. About 2 weeks later I recieved another e-mail asking for my
> address. I sent my address along with arequest for info on thier keyboards
> and synths.
> Today, I recieved a large envelope from Alesis. Inside was a catalog of
> the keyboards and synths along with one of the actual discs that was
handed
> out at the music show in Frankfurt. I thought this was great!! Then I
> turned the cardboard sleeved disc over to find it was signed 'To Robert,
> Klaus Schulze'. I was very surprised.
>
> EAT YOUR HEARTS OUT!!!!
>
> THE HIGHLANDER
>
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>
>
>
From:
'billythefish01'
Date: Tue Mar 18, 2003 10:09
am
Subject: Re: Guilty secrets
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'fozziebear'
wrote:
> billythefish01 said (My guitly secret is the Frank Chickens)
>
> Mine too! I even have live tapes
>
>
> David
.... blue, blue, blue canary,
tweet, tweet, tweet, the whole day lo-ong....
What genius!
BTF
From:
TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak
Date: Tue Mar 18, 2003 11:50
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Guilty secrets
At 02:49 18.03.03, you wrote:
>I'll get on the wagon and state my guilty secret: Depeche Mode.
>
>Gabe
What´s so 'guilty' about that? ;-) I for one part think they are brilliant
and one of the rather few bands who have aged in style. IMO, they had a low
phase in the late Eighties/early Nineties with Music for the Masses and
especially Violator, but after that they put out real Masterpieces.
Best regards,
Martin Kasprzak
TDI- Music- Support.
Tel:-49-30-23620995
Fax:-49-30-23620996
Visit our Website at:
http://www.tangerinedream.org
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From:
TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak
Date: Tue Mar 18, 2003 11:53
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Mota Atma and DM4
At 19:28 17.03.03, you wrote:
>Martin
>
>Will TDI be doing any specials on Mota Atma and DM4 through the web site
>or do we have to shop at the usual suspects?
>
>David
>
>
Dear David,
you´ll definitely be able to buy it from our website.
Best regards,
Martin Kasprzak
TDI- Music- Support.
Tel:-49-30-23620995
Fax:-49-30-23620996
Visit our Website at:
http://www.tangerinedream.org
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From:
Kees Aerts / Groove Unlimited
Date: Tue Mar 18, 2003 12:02
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Guilty secrets
At 12:50 18-3-03 +0100, you wrote:
>At 02:49 18.03.03, you wrote:
> >I'll get on the wagon and state my guilty secret: Depeche Mode.
> >
> >Gabe
>
>What´s so 'guilty' about that? ;-) I for one part think they are brilliant
>and one of the rather few bands who have aged in style. IMO, they had a low
>phase in the late Eighties/early Nineties with Music for the Masses and
>especially Violator
Do you really mean that?
Violator is an absolute masterpiece in my book.
>, but after that they put out real Masterpieces.
Exciter is a very good album but for me Violator is still number 1.
Best regards / Vriendelijke groeten,
Kees
GROOVE Unlimited (Specializing in Electronic Music)
Kees Aerts
PO Box 2171
8203 AD Lelystad
The Netherlands
Phone: +31 (0) 320 219496 ; Fax: +31 (0) 320 218910
http://www.groove.nl
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From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Tue Mar 18, 2003 12:34
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Guilty secrets
>I'll get on the wagon and state my guilty secret: Depeche Mode.
>
>Gabe
You haven't heard anywhere near 'guilty' yet...
Two words: Super Mario. :D
John Vertical
_________________________________________________________________
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From:
'Glenn Folkvord \(Hyperion Media\)'
Date: Tue Mar 18, 2003 12:55
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Waiting For Cousteau
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Marko Marin'
>
> But I have a question... which half is the one that
> occupied the second side of the lp? 0:00-23:00 or
> 23:00-46:00?
Neither. I dont have the LP to check it, but other people suggest it's a
unique mix, or taken from an even longer version which was used at the 1989
Jarre exhibition in Paris.
Glenn
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From:
TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak
Date: Tue Mar 18, 2003 1:56
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Guilty secrets
>
>Exciter is a very good album but for me Violator is still number 1.
>
>
>Best regards / Vriendelijke groeten,
>
>Kees
>
Sorry, Kees... but it´s definitely my least favorite of theirs. Somehow, it
just seems a bit uninspired to me and doesn´t have the emtional kick of
albums like 'Black Celebration', ' A Broken Frame' or 'Ultra' for me.
But that is where opinions differ, of course... ;-) And I believe that when
it comes to music, no one person is ever going to be 'wrong' or 'right' -
it is all a matter of personal taste and the kind of emotions one
associates with a certain kind of music. What makes one person tick might
be a total turn-off for another. And I believe that this is a good thing
because otherwise there would be no diversity whatsoever...
:-)
Best regards,
Martin Kasprzak
TDI- Music- Support.
Tel:-49-30-23620995
Fax:-49-30-23620996
Visit our Website at:
http://www.tangerinedream.org
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From:
Kees Aerts / Groove Unlimited
Date: Tue Mar 18, 2003 2:22
pm
Subject: Island list was Guilty secrets
At 14:56 18-3-03 +0100, you wrote:
> >
> >Exciter is a very good album but for me Violator is still number 1.
> >
> >
> >Best regards / Vriendelijke groeten,
> >
> >Kees
> >
>
>Sorry, Kees... but it´s definitely my least favorite of theirs. Somehow, it
>just seems a bit uninspired to me and doesn´t have the emtional kick of
>albums like 'Black Celebration', ' A Broken Frame' or 'Ultra' for me.
>
>But that is where opinions differ, of course... ;-) And I believe that when
>it comes to music, no one person is ever going to be 'wrong' or 'right' -
>it is all a matter of personal taste and the kind of emotions one
>associates with a certain kind of music. What makes one person tick might
>be a total turn-off for another. And I believe that this is a good thing
>because otherwise there would be no diversity whatsoever...
I totally agree but it's always funny to read that the CD you're thrilled about
is the least favorite with someone else. :-)
'Violator' is one of those albums for me that would be on my top 10 list of
albums to take along to an uninhabited island. Mainly because it contains
only great songs (in my opinion of course :) which makes it a great album
as a whole. There are lots of albums with brilliant songs but there are not
so many albums that are great as an album in total.
Others on my island list would be: ELO with Time, Hendrix with Electric
Ladyland,
Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon or Wish you were here, Leftfield-Leftism
and KLF-The White Room.
Best regards / Vriendelijke groeten,
Kees
GROOVE Unlimited (Specializing in Electronic Music)
Kees Aerts
PO Box 2171
8203 AD Lelystad
The Netherlands
Phone: +31 (0) 320 219496 ; Fax: +31 (0) 320 218910
http://www.groove.nl
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From:
quarlie@a...
Date: Tue Mar 18, 2003 3:37
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Island list was Guilty secrets
Kees Aerts / Groove Unlimited wrote:
>Others on my island list would be: ELO with Time, Hendrix with Electric
>Ladyland,
>Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon or Wish you were here, Leftfield-Leftism
>and KLF-The White Room.
Funny, 'All Bound for Mu Mu Land' came onto my shuffle playlist just as I read
that.
--Daniel
NP: um, yeah... the KLF - All Bound for Mu Mu Land
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From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Tue Mar 18, 2003 3:43
pm
Subject: Enya and Irish Gaelic vs. Scottish Gaelic. (was: Happy St. Paddy's day)
This item in the Enya FAQ pretty much explains the whole mess:
http://www.enya.org/faq/q4_02.htm
First of all Enya is Irish, and her native tongue is Irish Gaelic.
Basically, Irish and Scottish both belong to the Gaelic family of
languages, but in English it is improper to refer (in writing) to
Irish as 'Gaelic' because that term used by itself is the name of
the Scottish language. It is proper to refer to the Irish language
as 'Irish Gaelic' which is where the confusion comes in.
In spoken English, either can be referred to as 'Gaelic', but
are pronounced differently.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Grabowsky [mailto:hghlndr@t...]
> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 6:20 PM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [tadream] Happy St. Paddy's day
>
>
> Gaelic is the Scottish language and not the same as Irish
>
> THE HIGHLANDER
>
>
> At 01:09 AM 3/18/03 +0100, you wrote:
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: 'Owens, James'
> >
> >> np - in honor of the day: ENYA (guilty pleasure ?-)
> >
> >Isnt she Gaelic? Is that the same as Irish?
> >
> >glenn
>
>
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>
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>
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From:
Steven Feldman
Date: Tue Mar 18, 2003 4:13
pm
Subject: Tammy Wynette Strikes Again
On Tue, 18 Mar 2003 10:37:53 -0500 quarlie@a... writes:
> Funny, 'All Bound for Mu Mu Land' came onto my shuffle playlist just
> as I read that.
Yep, Tammy Wynette (on lead vocals for that one).
Hey, can we get back on track on this list, now? ;)
> --Daniel
> NP: um, yeah... the KLF - All Bound for Mu Mu Land
Steven Feldman
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From:
Kees Aerts / Groove Unlimited
Date: Tue Mar 18, 2003 4:20
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Island list was Guilty secrets
At 10:37 18-3-03 -0500, you wrote:
>Kees Aerts / Groove Unlimited wrote:
>
> >Others on my island list would be: ELO with Time, Hendrix with Electric
> >Ladyland,
> >Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon or Wish you were here, Leftfield-Leftism
> >and KLF-The White Room.
>
>Funny, 'All Bound for Mu Mu Land' came onto my shuffle playlist just as I
>read that.
>
>--Daniel
>NP: um, yeah... the KLF - All Bound for Mu Mu Land
they're justified and they're ancient....
and they drive an ice cream van... (tammy wanette version :-)
Best regards / Vriendelijke groeten,
Kees
GROOVE Unlimited (Specializing in Electronic Music)
Kees Aerts
PO Box 2171
8203 AD Lelystad
The Netherlands
Phone: +31 (0) 320 219496 ; Fax: +31 (0) 320 218910
http://www.groove.nl
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From:
'Yanick Vigneault'
Date: Tue Mar 18, 2003 4:17
pm
Subject: Re: OT: Waiting For Cousteau
Check this Web site (Sergio Sobarzo from Chile):
http://www.lacage.free.fr/
http://www.lacage.free.fr/Collection.htm
;-))
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Glenn Folkvord \(Hyperion Media\)'
wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Marko Marin'
> >
> > But I have a question... which half is the one that
> > occupied the second side of the lp? 0:00-23:00 or
> > 23:00-46:00?
>
> Neither. I dont have the LP to check it, but other people suggest
it's a
> unique mix, or taken from an even longer version which was used at
the 1989
> Jarre exhibition in Paris.
>
> Glenn
From:
'gyedid01'
Date: Tue Mar 18, 2003 5:33
pm
Subject: Re: Guilty secrets
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Kees Aerts / Groove Unlimited
wrote:
> At 12:50 18-3-03 +0100, you wrote:
> >At 02:49 18.03.03, you wrote:
> > >I'll get on the wagon and state my guilty secret: Depeche Mode.
> > >
> > >Gabe
> >
> >What´s so 'guilty' about that? ;-) I for one part think they are
brilliant
> >and one of the rather few bands who have aged in style. IMO, they
had a low
> >phase in the late Eighties/early Nineties with Music for the Masses
and
> >especially Violator
>
> Do you really mean that?
> Violator is an absolute masterpiece in my book.
I was going to say, Martin must be one of the very, VERY few people
acquainted with DM's music who think that both Violator *and* MFTM are
'low points' in DM's output.
I would say that perhaps in terms of the lyrics, the post-Violator
albums are better, but the synth arrangements on Violator are
matchless in DM's output, IMO.
Gabe
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From:
'fozziebear'
Date: Tue Mar 18, 2003 6:43
pm
Subject: Gaelic
'It is proper to refer to the Irish language
as 'Irish Gaelic' which is where the confusion comes in.
In spoken English, either can be referred to as 'Gaelic', but
are pronounced differently.'
So what Gaelic do the Manx people of the Isle of Man speak?
David
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From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Tue Mar 18, 2003 6:54
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Gaelic
That would be 'Manx Gaelic'. I'm not sure how you'd pronounce it...
Some more Manx Gaelic info:
http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/celtic_internet_resources/87874
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fozziebear
> So what Gaelic do the Manx people of the Isle of Man speak?
From:
quarlie@a...
Date: Tue Mar 18, 2003 7:10
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Tammy Wynette Strikes Again
Steven Feldman wrote:
>Yep, Tammy Wynette (on lead vocals for that one).
To nitpick, Tammy actually sang on 'Stand by the Jams.' 'All Bound for Mu Mu
Land' is an extended reprise of that song, but with a different singer, whose
name I don't recall.
>Hey, can we get back on track on this list, now? ;)
No, it's more fun to discuss off-topic minutiae. ;)
--Daniel
NP: Joe Satriani - Strange Beautiful Music
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From:
'Glenn Folkvord \(Hyperion Media\)'
Date: Tue Mar 18, 2003 7:34
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Enya and Irish Gaelic vs. Scottish Gaelic. (was: Happy St. Paddy's day)
Thanks for not clearing that up! LOL
glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Owens, James'
> This item in the Enya FAQ pretty much explains the whole mess:
> http://www.enya.org/faq/q4_02.htm
>
> First of all Enya is Irish, and her native tongue is Irish Gaelic.
>
> Basically, Irish and Scottish both belong to the Gaelic family of
> languages, but in English it is improper to refer (in writing) to
> Irish as 'Gaelic' because that term used by itself is the name of
> the Scottish language. It is proper to refer to the Irish language
> as 'Irish Gaelic' which is where the confusion comes in.
>
> In spoken English, either can be referred to as 'Gaelic', but
> are pronounced differently.
From:
Kees Aerts / Groove Unlimited
Date: Tue Mar 18, 2003 7:33
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Tammy Wynette Strikes Again
At 14:10 18-3-03 -0500, you wrote:
>Steven Feldman wrote:
>
> >Yep, Tammy Wynette (on lead vocals for that one).
>
>To nitpick, Tammy actually sang on 'Stand by the Jams.' 'All Bound for Mu
>Mu Land' is an extended reprise of that song, but with a different singer,
>whose name I don't recall.
Maxime Harvey :-)
Best regards / Vriendelijke groeten,
Kees
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From:
Date: Tue Mar 18, 2003 8:53
pm
Subject: Guilty Secrets or Pleasures???
How about Falco?
Um......Frankie Goes to Hollywood?
Old TV shows on DVD???:
U.F.O. (Gerry Anderson version)
Space 1999 (Gerry Anderson again)
M*A*S*H (movie and TV)
The Saint (Roger Moore)
The Prisoner (Patrick Mac...)
Buster Keaton Movies
Abbott & Costello Movies
Guilty as charged.
In God's Love
Neal
'You can't take it with you -
but you CAN send it on ahead - Give.'
Pastor Tom Mullins
From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Tue Mar 18, 2003 9:37
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Enya and Irish Gaelic vs. Scottish Gaelic. (was: Happy St. Paddy's day)
It's almost as confusing as the English forms of
'High Dutch' and 'Low Dutch' (from the lowlands)
referring to 'German'(Deutsch) and 'Dutch'...
There's a group of early settlers in Pennsylvania
referred to as the 'Pennsylvania Dutch' which
were actually Germans from the Rhinelands 8-)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Glenn Folkvord (Hyperion Media) [mailto:glenn@f...]
>
> Thanks for not clearing that up! LOL
From:
David Dunham
Date: Tue Mar 18, 2003 10:48
pm
Subject: Martin on film?
I've got a question. Is that you Martin behind the
Z-man in #25 pic (TD in London)?
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From:
'Robert Asmus'
Date: Wed Mar 19, 2003 12:33
am
Subject: Best Program for Printing Cover art for TT1 TT2 TT3
I am looking for the best program preferably freeware type that will
print all the cover work for all tree releases? Can anybody give me an
idea?
Robert Asmus
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From:
Deb H-J
Date: Wed Mar 19, 2003 12:43
am
Subject: Enya & Gaelic Term
Still more esoterica!
<< Basically, Irish and Scottish both belong to the
Gaelic family of languages, but in English it is
improper to refer (in writing) to Irish as 'Gaelic'
because that term used by itself is the name of the
Scottish language. It is proper to refer to the Irish
language as 'Irish Gaelic' which is where the
confusion comes in. >>
Actually, the root 'Gael-' is an old term for someone
of the Celtic race, related to 'Gaul' or 'Gallic.'
Irish Gaelic terms in use in modern English include
'longshoreman', which is Gaelic in origin, and
'galore.' We also know it by ear here in the U.S. as
the origin of many common last names (Daugherty,
Doggerty, Dockerty, etc., etc.). I love the
musicality of Gaelic in all its forms, especially in
song lyrics.
Now back to our regularly scheduled Berlin School
band!
Deb H-J
dhj4@y...
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From:
'John Marchington'
Date: Wed Mar 19, 2003 2:08
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Best Program for Printing Cover art for TT1 TT2 TT3
Sorry, I don't know of any freeware, but I use Paint Shop Pro 7.0AE
(Anniversary Edition) which I regard very highly. I've never had a problem
with incorrect sizing or anything similar and the resultant printouts are
truly excellent when using high quality paper. I understand that version 8.0
of PSP is in the final beta stages at present and should be available soon.
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From: 'Robert Asmus'
To:
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:33 PM
Subject: [tadream] Best Program for Printing Cover art for TT1 TT2 TT3
> I am looking for the best program preferably freeware type that will
> print all the cover work for all tree releases? Can anybody give me an
> idea?
>
>
>
> Robert Asmus
>
>
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From:
David Dunham
Date: Wed Mar 19, 2003 3:07
am
Subject: Cover art
I've been getting pretty good results with Photoshop
5. It came free with the camera I bought.
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From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Wed Mar 19, 2003 8:05
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Gaelic
>It is proper to refer to the Irish language
>as 'Irish Gaelic' which is where the confusion comes in.
>
>In spoken English, either can be referred to as 'Gaelic', but
>are pronounced differently.
So which one is 'geelic' and which 'gahlic'? Or are they something even more
different?
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From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Wed Mar 19, 2003 8:37
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: OT: Waiting For Cousteau
>Check this Web site (Sergio Sobarzo from Chile):
>
>http://www.lacage.free.fr/
>http://www.lacage.free.fr/Collection.htm
>
> > > But I have a question... which half is the one that
> > > occupied the second side of the lp? 0:00-23:00 or
> > > 23:00-46:00?
Despite all the information, I find no mention of which half of Waiting For
Cousteau it is on the LP / cassette version...
But does it really matter?
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From:
TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak
Date: Wed Mar 19, 2003 9:24
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Guilty secrets
>
>I was going to say, Martin must be one of the very, VERY few people
>acquainted with DM's music who think that both Violator *and* MFTM are
>'low points' in DM's output.
Yep! I knew it.... I´m weird... ;-)
As I said, I think the way a person is going to rate music is in a large
part influenced by the way it emotionally touches him/her. I was pretty
disappointed by MFTM as compared to my all-time fave 'Black Celebration'
and 'Violator' was the only DM-album I didn´t buy the day it came out
(...and I have a pretty solid DM-collection) - it just didn´t kick in with
me... I like it more now than I did then but it´s still my least favorite
of DM´s.
Songs of Faith, Ultra and Exciter, on the contrary, hit me a at first
listen - the latter two even manager to grow in my liking the more often I
listened to them.
Best regards,
Martin Kasprzak
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From:
TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak
Date: Wed Mar 19, 2003 9:28
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Martin on film?
At 14:48 18.03.03, you wrote:
>I've got a question. Is that you Martin behind the
>Z-man in #25 pic (TD in London)?
Uhm... yes. Oh my g*d, I lost my anonymity!
Sorry... I seem to be a bit silly today. :-)
Best regards,
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Fax:-49-30-23620996
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From:
Heiko Heerssen
Date: Wed Mar 19, 2003 10:23
am
Subject: ..and now for something completely different
TANGERINE DREAM!!
;-)
my 'guilty secret' is 'Rockoon', this is a TD album which not many
people seem to like. In fact I almost hated it when I first bought it in
1992, but now I think it is a *very* nice collection of melodic tracks.
I had the same feeling with '220 volt live', the first time I heard it I
thought TD has sold their souls to commercialism, but now I think it's
great (I must admit though that I like the complete version on TT
Vol.21, Detroit 1992 even more ;-)
Heiko
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From:
'Roger Hartopp'
Date: Wed Mar 19, 2003 10:18
am
Subject: Re: Guilty Secrets or Pleasures?
Dexter's Laboratory!!!!
-Roger
----- Original Message -----
Subject: Guilty Secrets or Pleasures???
How about Falco?
Um......Frankie Goes to Hollywood?
Old TV shows on DVD???:
U.F.O. (Gerry Anderson version)
Space 1999 (Gerry Anderson again)
M*A*S*H (movie and TV)
The Saint (Roger Moore)
The Prisoner (Patrick Mac...)
Buster Keaton Movies
Abbott & Costello Movies
Guilty as charged.
In God's Love
Neal
From:
'Antonio Nunes'
Date: Wed Mar 19, 2003 11:38
am
Subject: Re: Best Program for Printing Cover art for TT1 TT2 TT3
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Robert Asmus' wrote:
> I am looking for the best program preferably freeware type that will
> print all the cover work for all tree releases? Can anybody give
me an
> idea?
I've used IrfanView to print the TT3 covers, on both sides. Certainly
it's not the best program, but it's freeware. You can download it from
http://www.irfanview.com/
Antonio Nunes
From:
Gustavo Jobim
Date: Wed Mar 19, 2003 1:16
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] ..and now for something completely different
HH said:
>I had the same feeling with '220 volt live', the first time I heard it I
>thought TD has sold their souls to commercialism, but now I think it's
>great
That was my first TD live album, my first 90s album and since the first
listen I liked it a lot...
Still in TD, my guilty secret could be Tyger. I think it's excellent -
including the singing.
Dexter's Lab is great ;)
But Tex Avery's cartoons are way better :)
(have a 6 hour VHS tape full of them)
------
Gustavo Jobim
http://www.gustavojobim.hpg.com.br
gustavojobim@s...
From:
'Glynn Naughton'
Date: Wed Mar 19, 2003 4:39
pm
Subject: Commercial?
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Heiko Heerssen
wrote:
> TANGERINE DREAM!!
>
> ;-)
>
> my 'guilty secret' is 'Rockoon', this is a TD album which not many
> people seem to like. In fact I almost hated it when I first bought
it in
> 1992, but now I think it is a *very* nice collection of melodic
tracks.
> I had the same feeling with '220 volt live', the first time I heard
it I
> thought TD has sold their souls to commercialism, but now I think
it's
> great (I must admit though that I like the complete version on TT
> Vol.21, Detroit 1992 even more ;-)
>
> Heiko
Hello,
I've never really understood this notion of 'commercial'
records. Surely, considering that at the time of _Rockoon_,
TD had already lost a huge amount of popularity, any
records they made at that time could hardly be called
'commercial': nobody bought them. If anything, records
like _Phaedra_ and _Rubycon_ are TD's most commercial
records--they are the ones that sold the most copies! There
is nothing intrinsically 'commercial' about any record.
It's like that other abused word, 'affordable'. Whether
something is affordable or not depends on how much money
you've got--it's got nothing to do with the thing itself.
The Chateau de Versaille is affordable housing if you're
Bill Gates or an oil sheik.
Glynn
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From:
'Mat Mckenzie'
Date: Wed Mar 19, 2003 3:52
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Re: Guilty secrets / DEPECHE MODE
I had the same sentiments Martin!, nothing to be guilty about Depeche
Mode......forget the early pop band image they may have had - this is a
talented bunch of musicians
- the bands music has changed and developed over the years and maybe not all
tracks are to everyone's taste going through some pretty 'heavy' phases but not
surprising for any band that has been around for 2 decades.
They were always one of the most influential and 'original' electronic bands
for me and still have the ability to produce stunning melodies and rhythms with
great deep moody edge to them.
Compared to the wads of instrumental electronic music I listen to - they are
one of the few groups I can actually sing along in the car too!
Mat
-----Original Message-----
From: TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak [mailto:martin@t...]
Sent: 18 March 2003 11:50
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Guilty secrets
At 02:49 18.03.03, you wrote:
>I'll get on the wagon and state my guilty secret: Depeche Mode.
>
>Gabe
What´s so 'guilty' about that? ;-) I for one part think they are brilliant
and one of the rather few bands who have aged in style. IMO, they had a low
phase in the late Eighties/early Nineties with Music for the Masses and
especially Violator, but after that they put out real Masterpieces.
Best regards,
Martin Kasprzak
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From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Wed Mar 19, 2003 5:44
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Commercial?
>I've never really understood this notion of 'commercial'
>records. Surely, considering that at the time of _Rockoon_,
>TD had already lost a huge amount of popularity, any
>records they made at that time could hardly be called
>'commercial': nobody bought them. If anything, records
>like _Phaedra_ and _Rubycon_ are TD's most commercial
>records--they are the ones that sold the most copies! There
>is nothing intrinsically 'commercial' about any record.
>
>It's like that other abused word, 'affordable'. Whether
>something is affordable or not depends on how much money
>you've got--it's got nothing to do with the thing itself.
>The Chateau de Versaille is affordable housing if you're
>Bill Gates or an oil sheik.
>
>Glynn
You've got some interesting points there..
However, I think that there's a very natural explanation for this: the word
'commercial' is not used in the common, or literal, sense. I'd say
translates into 'similar to what's popular', not 'sells well' in these sort
of contexts.
Even though Phaedra has sold well, it's not a record which would hit top 10
sales for a few months and get forgotten after that.
And if 'commercial' refers to the style of music listened most... that'd
make most jazz and classical music 'commercial' in their own age, too...
Concerning 'affordable' I guess it means 'afforable to our target audience'.
At least I've never heard the word outside commercial (no parentheses = the
usual definition) sources.
John Vertical
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From:
Date: Wed Mar 19, 2003 6:47
pm
Subject: joke auction on ebay
Hello all,
I found on ebay following auction:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2514733991&category=2265
on this auction you can buy the 12' inch Vinyl from Tangerine Dreams -
Streethawk for US $ 180 or the bid starts with US $ 144
This is a joke or???
Auction closed in one hour from now.
I am not the seller !!!
Cheers
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From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Wed Mar 19, 2003 6:40
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] joke auction on ebay
I don't think it's a joke. He's also got:
JEAN MICHEL JARRE 7' 45 RPM POPCORN/BLACKBIRD
for the same prices. Ends in 8 minutes...
Better Hurry :-)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: heiko@o... [mailto:heiko@o...]
>
> I found on ebay following auction:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2514733991&
> category=2265
>
> This is a joke or???
From:
'Chris Owen'
Date: Wed Mar 19, 2003 7:41
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] ..and now for something completely different
I'd always loved Red Roadster from Rockoon, one of their most underrated tracks
I think.
- Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: Heiko Heerssen
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 10:23 AM
Subject: [tadream] ..and now for something completely different
TANGERINE DREAM!!
;-)
my 'guilty secret' is 'Rockoon', this is a TD album which not many
people seem to like. In fact I almost hated it when I first bought it in
1992, but now I think it is a *very* nice collection of melodic tracks.
I had the same feeling with '220 volt live', the first time I heard it I
thought TD has sold their souls to commercialism, but now I think it's
great (I must admit though that I like the complete version on TT
Vol.21, Detroit 1992 even more ;-)
Heiko
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From:
'tei waz'
Date: Wed Mar 19, 2003 7:45
pm
Subject: Re: Guilty secrets / DEPECHE MODE
>I had the same sentiments Martin!, nothing to be guilty about Depeche
Mode......forget the early pop band image they may have had - this is a
talented bunch of musicians <
hmm, actually, I much prefer the material on speak & spell to virtually all
their albums after that.
--T
np TD DSC#12
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From:
'Chris Owen'
Date: Wed Mar 19, 2003 7:48
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Guilty secrets / DEPECHE MODE
I totally agree Mat. I rate Exciter as the best album they've ever done. It has
7 or 8 classic tracks. Even Edgar admires the way they work!
- Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: Mat Mckenzie
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 3:52 PM
Subject: RE: [tadream] Re: Guilty secrets / DEPECHE MODE
I had the same sentiments Martin!, nothing to be guilty about Depeche
Mode......forget the early pop band image they may have had - this is a
talented bunch of musicians
- the bands music has changed and developed over the years and maybe not all
tracks are to everyone's taste going through some pretty 'heavy' phases but not
surprising for any band that has been around for 2 decades.
They were always one of the most influential and 'original' electronic bands
for me and still have the ability to produce stunning melodies and rhythms with
great deep moody edge to them.
Compared to the wads of instrumental electronic music I listen to - they are
one of the few groups I can actually sing along in the car too!
Mat
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From:
Jonathan Holt
Date: Wed Mar 19, 2003 8:24
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] ..and now for something completely different
I totally agree. Rockoon is one of my least favourite
TD albums BUT Red Roadster is a diamond in the rough
and worth putting the cd on for.
jonnyboy
--- Chris Owen wrote:
> I'd always loved Red Roadster from Rockoon, one of
> their most underrated tracks I think.
>
> - Chris
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Heiko Heerssen
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 10:23 AM
> Subject: [tadream] ..and now for something
> completely different
>
>
> TANGERINE DREAM!!
>
> ;-)
>
> my 'guilty secret' is 'Rockoon', this is a TD
> album which not many
> people seem to like. In fact I almost hated it
> when I first bought it in
> 1992, but now I think it is a *very* nice
> collection of melodic tracks.
> I had the same feeling with '220 volt live', the
> first time I heard it I
> thought TD has sold their souls to commercialism,
> but now I think it's
> great (I must admit though that I like the
> complete version on TT
> Vol.21, Detroit 1992 even more ;-)
>
> Heiko
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>
>
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From:
Frédéric Yargui
Date: Wed Mar 19, 2003 8:28
pm
Subject: Images for the Columbia Prohect
Hello, dear all,
You can download the pictures for the Columbia CDr Project at the following URL
:
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/fred_y/columbia/index.htm
Best Regards,
Fred
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From:
Volkmar Friauf
Date: Wed Mar 19, 2003 8:30
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] joke auction on ebay
At 19:47 19.03.2003, Heiko Neumann wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>I found on ebay following auction:
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2514733991&category=2265
>
>on this auction you can buy the 12' inch Vinyl from Tangerine Dreams -
>Streethawk for US $ 180 or the bid starts with US $ 144
>
>This is a joke or???
>
>Auction closed in one hour from now.
>
>I am not the seller !!!
Well, the price is a bit high :-) But if you look at the seller's previous
auctions - no, this one is not extraordinary.
I'm not sure how rare the Jive 12' is. Maybe the seller was targetting at
US clients?
Regards,
VOlkmar
From:
'vic rek'
Date: Wed Mar 19, 2003 9:49
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] joke auction on ebay
From: Volkmar Friauf
> Well, the price is a bit high :-) But if you look at the seller's previous
> auctions - no, this one is not extraordinary.
> I'm not sure how rare the Jive 12' is. Maybe the seller was targetting at
> US clients?
Are you suggesting that US clients are either very rich or fools? :-)
Vic
From:
quarlie@a...
Date: Wed Mar 19, 2003 10:00
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Commercial?
'Glynn Naughton' wrote:
>I've never really understood this notion of 'commercial'
>records. Surely, considering that at the time of _Rockoon_,
>TD had already lost a huge amount of popularity, any
>records they made at that time could hardly be called
>'commercial': nobody bought them. If anything, records
>like _Phaedra_ and _Rubycon_ are TD's most commercial
>records--they are the ones that sold the most copies! There
>is nothing intrinsically 'commercial' about any record.
I've got to agree. Can you picture Edgar and Jerome working on 'Rockoon' and
saying to each other 'This one should really get us some mainstream
attention!'? I can't. I don't think they're that naive and I don't think they
care that much about getting attention from the mainstream.
--Daniel
NP: King's X - Faith Hope Love
From:
Liondream@a...
Date: Wed Mar 19, 2003 11:32
pm
Subject: Re: printing
Well, you might be able to just print out of Word or Wordperfect or even the
paint program that comes standard with your OS of choice, no need to buy
anything fancy.
That said...
I convert the images to CMYK in PSD first, then place them in Quark and print
out to a Canon CLC5000, which prints double-sided.
The only way to fly IMO.
From:
'Adele Outland'
Date: Thu Mar 20, 2003 2:22
am
Subject: Re: [tadream]Rockoon
I liked this album from the first. The music creates very vivid scenes in my
mind, something I especially appreciate about TD. Big City Dwarves: I'm
looking down from a 10th story apartment, watching all the 'little' people
scurrying below, little cogs in a big city machine. Red Roadster: perfect
for a back country drive with the top down enjoying a sunny day. I won't go
on but almost all of the album has extremely beautiful music on it to me. I
like this one. But then, I also like Goblin's Club. Is that a guilty secret?
Not bloody likely!
8-Dell
All IMO of course.
NP: Melrose Years; I like these reprise songs too.
As time slips into memory, memory fades into dreams.
>From: Heiko Heerssen
>Reply-To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
>To: 'tadream@yahoogroups.com'
>Subject: [tadream] ..and now for something completely different
>Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 11:23:31 +0100
>
>TANGERINE DREAM!!
>
>;-)
>
>my 'guilty secret' is 'Rockoon', this is a TD album which not many
>people seem to like. In fact I almost hated it when I first bought it in
>1992, but now I think it is a *very* nice collection of melodic tracks.
>I had the same feeling with '220 volt live', the first time I heard it I
>thought TD has sold their souls to commercialism, but now I think it's
>great (I must admit though that I like the complete version on TT
>Vol.21, Detroit 1992 even more ;-)
>
>Heiko
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From:
'musonaut'
Date: Wed Mar 19, 2003 3:42
pm
Subject: T. Dream two rare items
Hi,
I have for sale these two items from Tangerine Dream.
Tangerine Dream 'The Collection' The Collectors Series
Side 1: Genesis 6:00
Circulation of Events 5.49
Fauni-Gena 10:43
Side 2: Alpha Centaury 22:00
Side 3: Fly an Collisian of comas sola 13:05
Journay throgh a burning brain 13:25
Side 4: 'Zeit first movement'
Birth of liquid Plejades 20:00
White Clouds (recorded 1973 - remix 1984
Label: Castle Communications 2LP
Edgar Froese 'Epsilon in Malaysian Pale' CD Virgin cdv2040
People interested contact me by email: dsm4music@h...
greetings
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From:
'Glynn Naughton'
Date: Thu Mar 20, 2003 9:13
am
Subject: Re: Commercial?
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'John Vertical'
wrote:
>You've got some interesting points there..
>However, I think that there's a very natural explanation for this:
the word
>'commercial' is not used in the common, or literal, sense. I'd say
>translates into 'similar to what's popular', not 'sells well' in
these sort
>of contexts.
Indeed. We often refer to 'pop' music that doesn't sell well at all.
In that case, I suppose we're referring to the style of the music,
rather than how many people buy the record.
>And if 'commercial' refers to the style of music listened most...
that'd
>make most jazz and classical music 'commercial' in their own age,
too...
We often misuse the term 'bestseller', when what we mean
is 'fastseller'. Most pop records/books are fastsellers--they appear
briefly on the charts, then disappear for ever. Bach, Beethoven,
Goethe, Molière etc. are the real 'bestsellers'--they never generate
enough sales in a short enough time to appear on the charts, but they
keep on selling for years and years, indeed centuries. How many
records has Beethoven sold since the dawn of recorded music, I
wonder? Tens of millions? Hundreds? And 100 years from now he will
have added more tens of millions, whereas _Thriller_ will remain
stuck for the rest of history on 50 million.
Glynn
From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Thu Mar 20, 2003 9:49
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Commercial?
>We often misuse the term 'bestseller', when what we mean
>is 'fastseller'. Most pop records/books are fastsellers--they appear
>briefly on the charts, then disappear for ever. Bach, Beethoven,
>Goethe, Molière etc. are the real 'bestsellers'--they never generate
>enough sales in a short enough time to appear on the charts, but they
>keep on selling for years and years, indeed centuries. How many
>records has Beethoven sold since the dawn of recorded music, I
>wonder? Tens of millions? Hundreds? And 100 years from now he will
>have added more tens of millions, whereas _Thriller_ will remain
>stuck for the rest of history on 50 million.
>
>Glynn
Are we really competent to say that the hits of today will never sell as
well as classical music? Perhaps after a few centuries, Abba or Michael
Jackson will be considered 'classical music'?
Though I think TD has a bigger risk at becoming 'classical' than the
'commercial' music. Bach wasn't a big name at his own age, either.
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From:
Marion Horrod
Date: Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:42
pm
Subject: Re: Gaelic
So which one is 'geelic' and which 'gahlic'? Or are they something even more
different?
That question brought back good memories of a holiday we once took
travelling around the Outer Hebrides (islands off the NW of Scotland). We
got held up in Oban because the weather had been too bad for the ferry.
There was a big bunch of people on their way back from a wedding waiting
for the same ferry: they were already somewhat cheerful, and proceeded to
get a lot more so in the bar during the 5 hour wait. Anyway, we got
chatting with some of them about our proposed walking holiday, and one chap
turned to me and asked 'and d'ye hev the garlic?' I was very confused - I
mean, I'd got salt and pepper, and a few herbs, for cooking in the youth
hostel, but why was _he_ interested? It took me a couple of minutes to
catch on.
Actually, although we seem like a pretty small place, pronunciation varies
over even quite small distances. So I don't think it's easy to say whether
it's 'correct' to say gaylic, garlic, gallic etc in any one country - it's
more localised than that. (And don't get me started on Cymraig!)
LnH
Marion
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to be ...' S. Blakemore
From:
Marion Horrod
Date: Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:46
pm
Subject: Re: joke auction on ebay
'on this auction you can buy the 12' inch Vinyl from Tangerine Dreams -
Streethawk for US $ 180 or the bid starts with US $ 144'
Hmm - I _was_ going to put my copy into the grab bag at Ricochet Dreams.
Maybe I should think again!
LnH
Marion
'The glass is neither half full or half empty. It's twice the size it needs
to be ...' S. Blakemore
From:
thomas.soucheleau@n...
Date: Thu Mar 20, 2003 11:25
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream]Rockoon
I don't listen to rockoon a lot but it's a nice album though, in some kind of
weird way.
Apart from its musical merits, it's actually the album that made me decide to
learn to play the guitar.
Thanks for that Jerome (big city dwarves)! It's one of the few real good
decisions I made and never had to regret. :)
Thomas.
----Message réexpédié----
>A: tadream@yahoogroups.com
>De: 'Adele Outland'
>Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 21:22:25 -0500
>Sujet: Re: [tadream]Rockoon
>
>I liked this album from the first. The music creates very vivid scenes in my
>mind, something I especially appreciate about TD. Big City Dwarves: I'm
>looking down from a 10th story apartment, watching all the 'little' people
>scurrying below, little cogs in a big city machine. Red Roadster: perfect
>for a back country drive with the top down enjoying a sunny day. I won't go
>on but almost all of the album has extremely beautiful music on it to me. I
>like this one. But then, I also like Goblin's Club. Is that a guilty secret?
>Not bloody likely!
>8-Dell
>
>All IMO of course.
>NP: Melrose Years; I like these reprise songs too.
>
>
>As time slips into memory, memory fades into dreams.
>
>
>
>
>
>>From: Heiko Heerssen
>>Reply-To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
>>To: 'tadream@yahoogroups.com'
>>Subject: [tadream] ..and now for something completely different
>>Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 11:23:31 +0100
>>
>>TANGERINE DREAM!!
>>
>>;-)
>>
>>my 'guilty secret' is 'Rockoon', this is a TD album which not many
>>people seem to like. In fact I almost hated it when I first bought it in
>>1992, but now I think it is a *very* nice collection of melodic tracks.
>>I had the same feeling with '220 volt live', the first time I heard it I
>>thought TD has sold their souls to commercialism, but now I think it's
>>great (I must admit though that I like the complete version on TT
>>Vol.21, Detroit 1992 even more ;-)
>>
>>Heiko
>
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From:
Chris Richards
Date: Thu Mar 20, 2003 7:35
pm
Subject: Re: Guilty pleasures
On the topic of DVD's, I have several of the
Battle Of The Planets DVD's (when is Rhino going
to put more out?!), and the series boxset of Star
Blazers.
I still have to get the Young Ones and Monty
Python sets (amongst many others I want to
acquire).
And I guess my collection of B-movies would also
consitute 'guilty pleasures'. What kind of
B-movies? Flicks like Barracuda, Tentacles,
Piranha, Piranha 2: The Spawning, Up From The
Depths, Shark's Cave, and Great White.
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From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Thu Mar 20, 2003 8:09
pm
Subject: TT3 review time...
Okayyy, here we go again... :^)
----------
This installment of the series had material which I was somewhat familiar
already with, so it doesn't quite reach the same astounishment level as the
previous 2 parts - but it's great nonetheless. The sound quality is near
studio by standard! Huge thanks again for everyone involved!
I'd give this about 5 out of 6 points by average.
Definite highlights:
-Vol. 18 parts 4, 1 and 5
-Vol. 25 part 6
-Vol. 24 Zen Garden, Stratosfear, Underwater Twilight and Pilots of Purple
Twilight editions
-Volumes 22 and 23 as whole
----------
***Vol. 17***
In case you happen to like Quichotte, you'll love this volume, too, with its
crystal clear, near perfect sound. I'm not _that_ impressed, but it ain't
bad.
The first set begins with industrial sound effects galore, which crossfades
into very typical Tangram string ambience. The entry sequence section is a
primitive version of the very first Tangram bit - which gets soon replaced
by catchy bass sequences with Quichotte-style toppings.
Set 2 follows Quichotte pretty faithfully (it's at least 95% similar) for
about half an hour; but where the hectic bright sequence for Quichotte part
2 should begin, it doesn't. The bass does appear after a while, though. And
instead of a really long guitar solo, there's excellent jazzy keyboard
playing. The ending is as released.
The encore is the most energetic part of the concert. A racecars-type intro,
lively sequencing and more nice keyboard improvisation. If you've heard
'Chimes and Chains' from the 70-80 box set, Electronic Orgy, or some other
source, this is kinda like a 14 minutes long version of that track.
***Vol. 18***
This volume resembles vol. 4 closely.. which is not very surprizing, since
it's only 5 days apart. The radio announcer murmurs some pseudo-Steve
Jollife speech atop some pieces, but that really suits the music.
Part 1 is a terrific version of Cherokee Lane, with the intro and outro
highly similar to what's to be found on Encore.
Part 4 is IMHO the absolute best part of this concert, if not downright the
whole 17 disc bunch! The beginning might sound like Drywater Rush (also from
vol. 4) but the Soundmill Navigator -type main section is much better, and
the brilliant sequencing only keeps getting better towards the end. Plenty
of kick-ass arpeggios and mellotron. Sweeeeeeeeeet.
Part 5 begins in a curious way, and includes a good guitar solo, slightly
similar to Octagon II.
The other pieces are OK too, but not great. They equal vol. 4 too: pt 2 -
Monolight (almost the same as what's released), pt 3 - Monolith (but this
one is lousier) and pt 6 - Rain in Spain.
***Vol. 19***
Of the 5 previous '76 shows on the Tree, I'd say that this show resembles
most the Mannheim show on vol. 13; a rather calm mood and lots of these
recycled themes. Most of the tracks feature the march-like drumbeat from the
main sets of vol. 1.
I didn't spot yet any real highlights here, but the overall mood is nice.
I'm being a little warier with this volume; I do remember how I blasted the
Mannheim show initially, but I've now learned to like it, too. (Vol. 1
remains still the supreme fall 76 show I've heard, though.) Part 4 begins
with an interesting acoustic guitar -like solo, and part 5 has some good
Sorcerer themes.
***Vol. 20***
This set is almost identical to Valentine Wheels, but more percussion
effects based. Silver Scale's IMHO better than on V.W, and Exit appears as
an intersting live rendition.
'nuff said.
***Vol. 21***
Not much new stuff here either. The material is at most only slightly
different from what's on 220 Volt and studio albums. The anachronistic
versions of Waterborne and Story of the Brave are good, and so is Sundance
Kid with much more driving rhytm than on 220V. The brigde into Melrose is
nice too.
On to the next...
***Vol. 22***
Ladies and gentlemen, please fasten your seatbelts... we're arriving into
about the most raging TD show.
The beginning for this show is like TD would just have gotten their hand on
their brand new sound effects Mellotron tapes. All the classics included.
They also keep appearing later throughout the 1st piece.
A calm flute motif flows onwards, bass backings appear, darker mellotron
creeps in and a twitchy drumbeat enters for a brief while. Then everything
calms down into keyboard meanderings near the middle... then an angrily
trembling sequence fades in and makes pretty clear that it's not going to
leave too soon. It does modify into various high flutey rampages and Rubycon
Part 2 -type muffled beats, but remains hectic all the way through. A close
second to the ending of Horizon when in comes to sounding violent. The
ending is flute-centered ambience.
Mangled monotonic melody layers introduce the second part. After about seven
minutes, the howling mellotron abuse starts climaxing; something starts to
happen again. Strange arpeggiative snippets bubble under the surface, like
they'd be looking for a way out, and eventually, they do - it's back into
the maelstrom again. The creepy high-pitched voices remain, fading in and
out: 'shun! shun! shun!' This trip ends after about 10 minutes by slowly
dimming away...
Too bad that this whole thing only lasts 57 minutes; it sounds positively
different. Well, I'll be looking forwards to more '75 concerts...
***Vol. 23***
Glxblt.
I honestly think that _this_ music deserves rightfully the name 'Acoustic
LSD', not vol. 25. I mean, this stuff is *hardcore*. The basic rhytm is
nowhere near sequencing; no, it's some sort of insane bubbling. What's to be
found on vol. 2, or 20 minutes into the first set of Live! Improvised!, may
give a meek picture, but this one resembles at times accelerated bird calls,
horses galloping on a steel roof at a distance, or a boiling pot full of
wood blocks. There's also something which sounds like a cat's meowing
stretched 50 times, a psychotic twisty guitar solo near the end, and also
some little more ordinary ambience.
I'm running out of words here...
***Vol. 24***
Some bad stuff here (eek), but (again!) mostly great. Pilots of Purple
Twilight has a nice intro - *this* is how Edgar should have treated the
material on Tangents and Dream Roots. Stratosfear follows with more of the
same style, more than just a bit more in fact. The bridge is all-new
interesting material, and the main section is an almost complete
reconstruction - but the original sequences do remain somewhere under the
new percussive thrills, lead voices and the like.
Akash Deep is a very impressive build-up of sequencing, but melody's rare.
Sound effects are not spared, including eg. the very hollow drum strikes on
20th C. Serenades: Livemiles pt 2. Followed with Beneath the Waves; relaxed
chords waving back and forth.
Zen Garden has been edited drastically - drumbeat, new melody lines and the
like. Differs from the Antarktis version by having a sparse melody bit
reminescent of Heritage Survival. Scuba Scuba remains rhytm-vise almost
intact, but the rest is new stuff. The new name Samba Motel is apt.
Thunderstorm voices and beautiful arpeggios form the basis for the next
track, Coloured Rain; after this there's a piano medley which doesn't
impress me.
Dolphin Dance has been lenghtened big time. Towards the all-new ending,
there's a sequence which appears to be from the 2nd half of London,
repeating harpsichordesque melody bits, and the 'boing' from Zen Garden.
The next three tracks are boring. Ride on the Ray was better on 20th C.
Serenades, Going West is just plain numbing and Yellowstone Park still
doesn't work without the vocals. But after these, we're in for something
interesting: a really rocking heavy version of Underwater Twilight. Forget
the atmospheric choral intro stuff, this one's straight into a fish eat fish
world.
For desserts, there's some Legend stuff, another piano track, and gloomied,
darker versions of Rarebird and Bois de Boulogne.
***Vol. 25***
Again, the first half here features Cherokee Lane (with Soundmill Navigator
elements this time) and Monolight (Encore faithful, omitting the piano
solos). Track 2 is based on a slow, moody bass sequence, typical excellent
Mellotron playing, and some features from part 4 of vol. 18. So far we have
a rather typical '77 show...
The next track is another variant of the Monolith theme cluster, but! here
it starts to get heavy. Edgar's guitar playing is more aggressive and
fast-paced than usually; the sequencers, however, disappointingly don't
burst into an all-out bass rumpus, but stick with Livemilesquely rattling
drum lines. This climaxes during the next track, which is too short though
(7 minutes?? This is supposed to be a 70s TD concert!) Oh, and the gap
between these two tracks appears to be the source for the 'we want some
more!' audience applause snippet which is cut-and-pasted everywhere on
Encore.
The last two tracks are again more typical (& IMHO unimpressive) 77 stuff,
still showing signs of a lately experienced adrenaline rush though.
***Vol. 26***
The material from this tour is, I'd say, only interesting as a precursor to
the great 81 material that's to be heard on vol. 14. Despite the preset
setlist, the overall mood is still very close to the 70s material. The same
two or three Generic Instruments play just about every lead; it starts
getting really tedious during the 2nd set. Not even Silver Scale and
Choronzon are spared!
There's not many, but however some pieces that are not found on vol. 14. The
first one is Oceadium, a relaxed track beginning with some whispering Kiev
Mission sound FX, and then starting static metallic sequencer patterns. No
real melody, just extended mellow keyboard noodling. Bruparck (?) is a piano
solo which doesn't impress me. Phase Change, even though there was a track
of the same name (but not same content) on vol. 14, is something different:
a freaky organ solo overlaid with some Quichotte-style effects. Finally,
Atomium is a guitar solo piece with primitive Thermal Inversion and Dr.
Destructo elements (at least in the beginning).
The already familiar tracks then... Undulation is a little more energetic
here than on vol. 14, where it sounds somewhat sound effects centered.
Calymba Caly begins with a new, 80s-video-games style section; the keyboard
solo during the 'Elektro Part' is not as perplexing as the 81 counterpart,
but the first half of this section is moodier than what was to follow on the
next tour. The 'Ancient Part' feels the same as on vol. 14 or Antique
Dreams, but the lead lines are more persistent and numerous.
The intro of Silver Scale is perhaps a little more energetic, but overall
the 2nd set & Choronzon sound sort of muddy. And there's that 'boring lead
lines' effect too.
----------
John Vertical
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From:
'Colin Jouxson'
Date: Thu Mar 20, 2003 9:14
pm
Subject: Tagerine Dream v Jarre
Whislt looking at the inner booklet of Jarres Oxygene,i could not
help thinking that JMJ thought that he was the worlds first
Electronic Genius,well JMJ,i as talented as you WERE,you learned your
trade from the TIMELESS TEACHERS,as you said in your sounds interveiw
of Jan 77,Tangerine Dream are the GREATEST.HMMMM we all know that
dont we? Pretenders will come and pretenders will FALL.
Tangerine Dream-Without doubt the WORLDS Greatest EM of all time.
RUBYCON RULES,and you know it.
Tangerine Dream-Probably the Greatest band of all TIME.
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From:
'Robert Asmus'
Date: Thu Mar 20, 2003 10:46
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Subject: FTP Download of TT3 from Me
Can everybody please contact me off list if you have finished
downloading TT3 from my ftp server?
Robert Asmus
Asmus0324@c...
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From:
'Glenn Folkvord \(Hyperion Media\)'
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2003 12:31
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Tagerine Dream v Jarre
JMJ was making electronic music when TD had not laid hands on a synth yet
(figuratively speaking).
Otherwise your message was really funny :-)
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Colin Jouxson'
To:
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 10:14 PM
Subject: [tadream] Tagerine Dream v Jarre
> Whislt looking at the inner booklet of Jarres Oxygene,i could not
> help thinking that JMJ thought that he was the worlds first
> Electronic Genius,well JMJ,i as talented as you WERE,you learned your
> trade from the TIMELESS TEACHERS,as you said in your sounds interveiw
> of Jan 77,Tangerine Dream are the GREATEST.HMMMM we all know that
> dont we? Pretenders will come and pretenders will FALL.
> Tangerine Dream-Without doubt the WORLDS Greatest EM of all time.
> RUBYCON RULES,and you know it.
> Tangerine Dream-Probably the Greatest band of all TIME.
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From:
Gustavo Jobim
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2003 3:41
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Tagerine Dream v Jarre
>JMJ was making electronic music when TD had not laid hands on a synth yet
>(figuratively speaking).
>Otherwise your message was really funny :-)
>Glenn
he was a member of Pierre Schaeffer's Groupe de Recherches Musicales in
1969, making electroacoustic music...
and Schulze was who introduced synths to Edgar...
there was still Theremin, Varèse, Stockhausen, decades before Schulze,
Froese, Jarre, Ralf und Florian, Göttsching, Czukay and Karoli, Diermaier
and Irmler, Schnitzler, Moebius and Roedelius etc.
and before Varèse, Stravinsky was making his orchestral explorations.
who was the teacher?
just one cent more.
gj np Eloy - Inside
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From:
'Jim Moore'
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2003 3:11
am
Subject: RE: [tadream]Rockoon
Back in spring 1992 when I bought Rockoon, it was a clear sunny day in
Atlanta. I played the album in my car with the windows rolled down all the
way from Buckhead to Downtown via Peachtree Street (*The* Peachtree Street).
Both Atlanta and myself have changed quite a bit since then, but the city
and the album will always be joined in my memory.
- jim
------------
From: Adele Outland [mailto:outlanda60@h...]
I liked this album from the first. The music creates very vivid scenes in my
mind, something I especially appreciate about TD. Big City Dwarves: I'm
looking down from a 10th story apartment, watching all the 'little' people
scurrying below, little cogs in a big city machine. Red Roadster: perfect
for a back country drive with the top down enjoying a sunny day. I won't go
on but almost all of the album has extremely beautiful music on it to me.
From:
'Jim Moore'
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2003 3:35
am
Subject: RE: [tadream] TT3 review time...
Okay -- I've been holding back here, as I think the Tree project has been
spectacular overall. But I have to ask: why was this particular recording
from the 1986 N.A. tour chosen? Have my ravings about the audience noise
from the Somnambulistic Imagery recording gone un-noticed?
Seriously, if someone ever invents a time machine, I'm going to steal it to
go back in time to 1986 and find out who those people who talked through the
entire concert were, and then I'm going to go back further in time to
prevent their respective conceptions so that their existence is wiped from
the time stream! I mean, did they actually pay money to attend that
concert? Was this actually a dinner/concert venue? Was there like a lot of
loud construction going on in their communities that they had to escape to a
concert venue to have a conversation? I know that Starbucks weren't in
vogue back then, but there had to be a bistro of some kind they could have
yakked their heads off in -- maybe they'd been kicked out of everywhere
else. And why didn't the person making the recording take a cricket bat to
their heads during the beginning of the concert? 'Hey folks, this isn't a
f*cking Slappy White gig at the Sands -- some us of would like to hear the
music as this band hasn't toured the US in nine years! And maybe someone
might be recording the show and no one want to preserve your damn yap for
posterity for the next fifteen years!'
Alright... Calm blue ocean... Calm blue ocean...
- jim
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From: John Vertical [mailto:johnvertical@h...]
***Vol. 24***
Some bad stuff here (eek), but (again!) mostly great...
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From:
Heiko Heerssen
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2003 7:56
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] TT3 review time...
> Okay -- I've been holding back here, as I think the Tree project has been
> spectacular overall. But I have to ask: why was this particular recording
> from the 1986 N.A. tour chosen? Have my ravings about the audience noise
> from the Somnambulistic Imagery recording gone un-noticed?
Hello Jim,
Laguna Hills was chosen because of the very good sound quality. I must agree
though that the audience noises are sometimes disturbing. The funny thing is
that maybe 2-3 weeks after the release of TT3 I received another great sounding
recording of the Cleveland Music Hall 24 June 1986 concert which must be very
close to the master tape, crowd noises are minimal but IMO the peformance is
better than Laguna Hills. So I'm sure that sooner or later Cleveland 86 will
also see the light as a future TT concert.
Heiko
From:
TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2003 9:37
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Tagerine Dream v Jarre
>
>and Schulze was who introduced synths to Edgar...
Sorry, Gustavo, but that is complete bull... Schulze used to be a drummer,
especially in his short time in TD. Edgar already played Mellotrons and
experimented with electronic devices when Schulze had not laid his hands on
an electronic device yet. And actually Schulze only started turning to
electronics and synthesizer music after TD had acquired their modular Moog
from a Rollings Stones related source.
And believe me, I have seen solid evidence for what I am saying.
I believe that you´re right in the rest of your comment that TD were not
the first people to experiment with electronic musical devices, but I
cannot let this stand.
Best regards,
Martin Kasprzak
TDI- Music- Support.
Tel:-49-30-23620995
Fax:-49-30-23620996
Visit our Website at:
http://www.tangerinedream.org
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From:
'ravnnet'
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2003 9:39
am
Subject: Mota Atma tracklist and other details
The Mota Atma tracklist is:
1. The Courage to Lose
2. For the Summit Only
3. No Pleasure No Pain
4. Royal Way of Privacy
5. Phoenix Burning
6. Prophet in Chains
7. Snow on Angel's Feather
8. A Fair Day's Wage
9. Brain Offender
10. A Day in Liberty Valley
So now where is track 2 from the Astoria single ?
You can pre-order and see more info at
http://www.voiceprint.co.uk/catalogue.php/Release/1072/
Regards,
Peter
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From:
Shez
Date: Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:47
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Guilty secrets / DEPECHE MODE
>
>hmm, actually, I much prefer the material on speak & spell to virtually all
>their albums after that.
oh no, it's very poor musically.
beep beep beep new life new life beep beep beep
Ridiculous.
Only my opinion of course but I think tracks such as
'Never Let Me Down Again' are just more interesting.
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From:
Shez
Date: Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:40
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Guilty Secrets: Duran Duran and Tammy Wynette
Mine is / are many Italo Disco stuff of the 80's: Gazebo, Den Harrow,
and a couple others.
+ I even collect these records, especially the 12' Singles.
From:
Dennis Nigbur
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2003 10:28
am
Subject: Re: [tadream]Rockoon
On 19 Mar 2003 at 21:22, Adele Outland wrote:
> I liked this album from the first. The music creates very vivid scenes
> in my mind, something I especially appreciate about TD. Big City
Sorry, this is one of the few TD albums that I really haven't been able
to get into. I quite like Big City Dwarves, I think Touchwood isn't bad
(certainly like it more than any of the umpteen remixes we've had of it),
and Spanish Love and Lifted Veil both have a nice melody. Penguin
Reference only works for me for about a minute towards the end of the
track, when the sound becomes a bit more voluminous and the main
melody line kicks in. Most of the rest I just don't find interesting. And
the endings of most tracks tend to sound to me as if they were either
thrown together at the last minute or lifted from nursery rhymes.
> I also like Goblin's Club. Is that a guilty secret? Not bloody likely!
Now, that's one of my recent favourites! It's probably just me, but I
think there's a world of difference between the two albums. Most
people like Towards the Evening Star, but it's been the non-obvious
candidates like United Goblins Parade, Elf June, and Sad Merlin's
Sunday that have really grown on me. I find them much more subtle
and interesting than anything on Rockoon.
Dennis
From:
tom george
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2003 12:46
pm
Subject: Tyranny of Beauty & Mortiis
I recently aquired a cassette of TOB. Of course I
have many different cd versions of this but getting
the cassette made me listen to this again. This has
got to be my favorite of the later day TD. There is
not a bad track on this album. Lots of guitar,
powerful tracks with loads of underlying beauty.
A true masterpiece.
Mortiis (for those that don't know) was in a death
metal band called Emperor. After leaving them he
made some albums under the band name Vond and then
5 or so under his own name. His stage makeup and
clothes resemble a really twisted version of Kiss.
His face is made up to look like part bat, part
troll and who knows what else but it is just plain
scary. He wears a bizarre leather suit with bat
wings. His music (after Emperor) is a mix of dark
ambient, spoken non-english vocals, with loads of
keyboards. I think he is from Norway. If you are
curious about him have a look at www.mortiis.com.
Why do I mention Mortiis? I read an interview
with him where he takes a whole paragraph to say
how much TD has influenced him. Also on his latest
cd 'The Smell of Rain' he lists TD in his Thanks
to: section.
Be forewarned that if you want to try some of
Mortiis's music, and want to hear the dark ambient,
skip all Emperor and his latest album. On his
latest he has gone all vocals and is obviously
trying to go the commercial goth route.
Well at least this has been 85% on topic.
Tom
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From:
'Michael A Jean'
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2003 12:44
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Tagerine Dream v Jarre
Perhaps Gustavo is thinking of Kitaro. Schulze did introduce him to synths
(or so the story goes).
MJ
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak [mailto:martin@t...]
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 4:38 AM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [tadream] Tagerine Dream v Jarre
>
>
>
> >
> >and Schulze was who introduced synths to Edgar...
>
> Sorry, Gustavo, but that is complete bull... Schulze used to be a
> drummer,
> especially in his short time in TD. Edgar already played Mellotrons and
> experimented with electronic devices when Schulze had not laid
> his hands on
> an electronic device yet. And actually Schulze only started turning to
> electronics and synthesizer music after TD had acquired their
> modular Moog
> from a Rollings Stones related source.
>
> And believe me, I have seen solid evidence for what I am saying.
>
> I believe that you´re right in the rest of your comment that TD were not
> the first people to experiment with electronic musical devices, but I
> cannot let this stand.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Martin Kasprzak
> TDI- Music- Support.
> Tel:-49-30-23620995
> Fax:-49-30-23620996
>
> Visit our Website at:
>
> http://www.tangerinedream.org
>
>
>
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From:
moxica@a...
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2003 1:52
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] TT3 review time...
Cool... I want one!
--
Jim Moore, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
moxica@a...
> Laguna Hills was chosen because of the very good sound quality. I must agree
> though that the audience noises are sometimes disturbing. The funny thing is
> that maybe 2-3 weeks after the release of TT3 I received another great
sounding
> recording of the Cleveland Music Hall 24 June 1986 concert which must be very
> close to the master tape, crowd noises are minimal but IMO the peformance is
> better than Laguna Hills. So I'm sure that sooner or later Cleveland 86 will
> also see the light as a future TT concert.
From:
moxica@a...
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2003 2:01
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Tagerine Dream v Jarre
I'd love to have seen this transaction:
Mick: 'Keith! The 'Orange Sunshine' people are here!'
Keith: 'mumble... I don't want any more f*ckin' mumble...'
Mick: 'No, no. They're here for the keyboard!'
Keith: 'Keyboard? mumble... When did we start mumble using a keyboard?'
Mick: 'I tell you, man. These guys look like bloody Vikings!'
Keith: 'mumble... *cough* Who? Did you say they were the 'Lemon Vikings'?'
[and so on...]
Man, I gotta lay off this 24-hour Fox News war coverage...
--
Jim Moore, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
moxica@a...
> And actually Schulze only started turning to
> electronics and synthesizer music after TD had acquired their modular Moog
> from a Rollings Stones related source.
From:
Gustavo Jobim
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2003 2:06
pm
Subject: KS and EF RE: [tadream] Tagerine Dream v Jarre
I know about Kitaro but no, I really meant Edgar... sorry; must be mixed up
memories and things I've read and stuff.
but wasn't KS experimenting with organs, and he tried to bring that to TD
but Edgar wasn't interested then? or something like that?
>Perhaps Gustavo is thinking of Kitaro. Schulze did introduce him to synths
>(or so the story goes).
>MJ
> > >and Schulze was who introduced synths to Edgar...
> >
> > Sorry, Gustavo, but that is complete bull... Schulze used to be a
> > drummer, especially in his short time in TD.(...)
> > Best regards, Martin Kasprzak
------
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From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2003 3:32
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Tagerine Dream v Jarre
IIRC that is what is written in the big booklet that comes with Kitaro's
'Ten Years'
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael A Jean [mailto:michaeljean@e...]
> Perhaps Gustavo is thinking of Kitaro. Schulze did introduce
> him to synths
> (or so the story goes).
From:
TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2003 3:52
pm
Subject: Re: KS and EF RE: [tadream] Tagerine Dream v Jarre
>
>but wasn't KS experimenting with organs, and he tried to bring that to TD
>but Edgar wasn't interested then? or something like that?
Not really, sorry...
TD were already using the Farfisa prior to the first album and KS was
only the drummer and nothing more - he was then replaced by Chris Franke,
who, in the beginning was also purely the band´s drummer. AFAIK, in the
beginning of Ash Ra Tempel, KS was also purely responsible for drums. From
what I know, Schulze turned to synths around the time Phaedra was released.
Best regards,
Martin Kasprzak
TDI- Music- Support.
Tel:-49-30-23620995
Fax:-49-30-23620996
Visit our Website at:
http://www.tangerinedream.org
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From:
'Tom Richmond'
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2003 4:07
pm
Subject: 'Between the Stars' tribute CD tree
Just a reminder that I'm taking sign-ups for the 'Between the Stars' CDR
tree.
It's the tribute to the Columbia crew disc put together by Jerome Salyers,
with artwork by Yannick Edom.
Anyone interested in participating should contact me at
trichmond@b... with the following:
Name
City/State/Country
Preferred Status - Branch or Leaf
(If branch, please indicate the number of leaves you could support)
Cheers!
Tom Richmond
Menomonee Falls, WI
NP - Dreamwatchers' Tales III, Disc 2
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From:
'Bill Fox'
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2003 5:26
pm
Subject: Update - Ticket Outlets for Soundscapes
The Soundscapes Concert Series featuring vidnaObmana will be held at the City
of Bethlehem's IceHouse on Sand Island, located in historic Bethlehem on the
north bank of the Lehigh River. The IceHouse has been described as a perfect
venue for a concert of spacemusic. This concert will be on Saturday, April
19, 2003, starting at 8:00 pm. The doors will open at 7:30 pm and Chef Jeff
will cater a free buffet dinner. Tickets are $17 in advance and $20 at the
door.
Advance tickets are available at:
Compact Disc Center
1365 Easton Ave.
Bethlehem, Pennsylvania
610-868-3070
Speedy's Record Shop
1001 Union Blve.
Allentown, Pennsylvania
610-432-8386
On-line at:
http://electro-music.com
NOTE: There are no discounts on advance tickets. Tickets at the door will be
discounted by $3 for those who show their WDIY or WMUH membership cards or
their full-time student ID.
FULL INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE AT http://soundscapes.us
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From:
'Bill Fox'
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2003 4:15
pm
Subject: Soundscapes Concert Series
The Soundscapes Concert Series
proudly presents
vidnaObmana
in an all ages concert of space music
at the City of Bethlehem's IceHouse on Sand Island
56 River Street West
Bethlehem, Pennsylvania
Saturday, April 19, 2003
Concert at 8:00 pm, doors open at 7:30 pm
FREE Buffet Dinner by Chef Jeff
Tickets: $17 in advance and $20 at the door.
Soundscapes #4 is coproduced by WDS Productions and
Wooden Shoe Music.
For the fourth installment of the Soundscapes Concert Series, vidnaObmana will
perform a concert at the City of Bethlehem's IceHouse on Sand Island. Located
in historic Bethlehem on the north bank of the Lehigh River, the IceHouse is a
perfect venue for a concert of spacemusic. This concert will be on Saturday,
April 19, 2003, starting at 8:00 pm. The doors will open at 7:30 pm and Chef
Jeff will cater a free buffet dinner. Tickets are $17 in advance and $20 at the
door. Advance ticket availability is on-line at http://electro-music.com at
coming soon to local outlets. NOTE: There are no discounts on advance tickets.
Tickets at the door will be discounted by $3 for those who show their WDIY or
WMUH membership cards or their full-time student ID.
INFORMATION:
http://soundscapes.us
CONTACT:
Bill Fox
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610-746-9615
VIDNAOBMANA:
Ambient musician vidnaObmana is one of spacemusic's brightest stars. Using
synthesizers, audio processors, and a vast array of exotic instruments, Belgian
electronic musician vidnaObmana creates a complex, layered musical journey
through rhythms, timbres, loops, and sonic atmospheres. The name vidnaObmana
means 'optical illusion' in Servo-Croation, a term he picked up while
vacationing in Croatia during his childhood. He chose this phrase as his
musical persona to illustrate how his music correlates sonically with the
surreal soundscapes he creates. vidnaObmana is a prolific composer whose
diverse body of work ranges from post-industrial through gently atmospheric, to
tribal ambient and more. His music slowly shifts through electronic audio
imagery, creating extremely personal works of atmospheric delight.
Throughout his career, vidnaObmana has explored the abrasive side of electronic
composition, using freeform soundscapes, international music traditions, and
post-classical experimentations. His music has been released widely by many
independent labels worldwide, including: Release/Relapse, Amplexus, Extreme,
Hypnos, Mirage, Multimood, Projekt and others. A significant portion of
vidnaObmana's work has been realized in collaboration with some of the world's
most interesting musicians such as Alio Die, Jeff Pearce, Steve Roach, Djen
Ajakan Shean, Asmus Tietchens, and Brannan Lane.
FLIER:
A concert flier is available for download at
http://soundscapes.us/concert flier.pdf You are encouraged to take an active
role in the health of the electronic music scene by printing, displaying, and
distributing this flier. Forwarding of this email message helps, too!
ROBERT RICH:
Robert Rich will come to the Soundscapes Concert Series on Saturday, July 12,
2003. Tickets will be $20 at the door, $17 in advance (on sale starting April
20), and $15 for ticket holders during the vidnaObmana concert on April 19.
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From:
'gyedid01'
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2003 7:17
pm
Subject: Re: Guilty secrets / DEPECHE MODE
well, if you want to split hairs, _Speak and Spell_ isn't really a
Depeche Mode album, it's a Vince Clarke album with DM as the backing
band. I'm pretty sure that Clarke wrote and arranged all the songs
on _S&S_.
Gabe
to try and get this thread on topic, wouldn't it be cool if TD could
do some DM covers as encores for their shows?
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From:
'gyedid01'
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2003 7:15
pm
Subject: Re: KS and EF RE: [tadream] Tagerine Dream v Jarre
Um, I don't have a discography handy, but hadn't Schulze already
released _Irrlicht_ and _Picture Music_ by the time _Phaedra_ came
out?
Gabe
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From:
Jonathan Holt
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2003 7:41
pm
Subject: Re: KS and EF RE: [tadream] attn: Martin Kasprzak
Martin, just a couple of things:
1. Isn't it time for a new poll on the TD website?
2. Waaaay back last summer in the dark days of the TD
website forum, you mentioned it might be possible for
us to present a fan-written FAQ (or even SAQ, Seldom
Asked Questions!). Is there a realistic possibility of
this happening?
I was just thinking that the topice below would have
been a blinder for Edgar!
And what does Jerome think of Klaus Schulze music? etc
I would still be willing to compile questions from the
submissions of others...
V. curious,
jonnyboy.
--- TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak
wrote: >
> >
> >but wasn't KS experimenting with organs, and he
> tried to bring that to TD
> >but Edgar wasn't interested then? or something like
> that?
>
> Not really, sorry...
>
> TD were already using the Farfisa prior to the
> first album and KS was
> only the drummer and nothing more - he was then
> replaced by Chris Franke,
> who, in the beginning was also purely the band´s
> drummer. AFAIK, in the
> beginning of Ash Ra Tempel, KS was also purely
> responsible for drums. From
> what I know, Schulze turned to synths around the
> time Phaedra was released.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Martin Kasprzak
> TDI- Music- Support.
> Tel:-49-30-23620995
> Fax:-49-30-23620996
>
> Visit our Website at:
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> http://www.tangerinedream.org
>
>
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From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2003 8:25
pm
Subject: FAQ
Steve Jenkins was hosting one on his web site at www.lpool.demon.co.uk
However, it looks like the link is dead now. I and many others on the
old UWP list contributed to Steve's FAQ, which was an update from an
older text-only version.
Steve: if you're out there, do you still have a copy of this somehwere?
If not, has anyone else archived it?
James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonathan Holt [mailto:plantpot_73@y...]
> 2. Waaaay back last summer in the dark days of the TD
> website forum, you mentioned it might be possible for
> us to present a fan-written FAQ (or even SAQ, Seldom
> Asked Questions!). Is there a realistic possibility of
> this happening?
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From:
Gustavo Jobim
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2003 8:43
pm
Subject: Re: KS and EF
Martin K said:
> TD were already using the Farfisa prior to the first album and KS was
>only the drummer and nothing more - he was then replaced by Chris Franke,
>who, in the beginning was also purely the band´s drummer. AFAIK, in the
>beginning of Ash Ra Tempel, KS was also purely responsible for drums. From
>what I know, Schulze turned to synths around the time Phaedra was
>released. Best regards, Martin Kasprzak
Ashra's first album says KS plays 'Drums, Percussion, Electronics' but I
believe these electronics mean his tape devices, echo machines and stuff;
not really a synth, yes. But Picture Music, made in 'autumn 1973',
according to KS's site, had VCS3, Arp Odyssee, ARP 2600 and a Farfisa
(according to the booklet)... Phaedra was released in 1974.
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From:
Gustavo Jobim
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2003 8:45
pm
Subject: Re: KS and EF
>Um, I don't have a discography handy, but hadn't Schulze already
>released _Irrlicht_ and _Picture Music_ by the time _Phaedra_ came
>out?
>Gabe
Irrlicht - 1972
Cyborg - 1973
Picture Music was made in 1973, already with synths, right after Cyborg,
but released in 1975
Blackdance - 1974 (the first release with synths)
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From:
Gustavo Jobim
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2003 10:03
pm
Subject: OT KS - Dreams lyrics
Hello,
does anyone have the lyrics for Klaustrophony, the last track from KS' Dreams?
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From:
'Colin Jouxson'
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2003 9:55
pm
Subject: Re: KS and EF
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Gustavo Jobim
wrote:
>
> >Um, I don't have a discography handy, but hadn't Schulze already
> >released _Irrlicht_ and _Picture Music_ by the time _Phaedra_ came
> >out?
> >Gabe
>
> Irrlicht - 1972
> Cyborg - 1973
> Picture Music was made in 1973, already with synths, right after
Cyborg,
> but released in 1975
> Blackdance - 1974 (the first release with synths)
>
> ------
> Gustavo Jobim
> http://www.gustavojobim.hpg.com.br
> gustavojobim@s...
Alpha Centauri 1971 with Zither VCS3 Synthi and of course Zeit 1972
with the VCS3 Synth again and Florian Fricke(Popul Vuh) big Moog.
As the late great Lester Bangs once said,I swear i saw God at that TD
concert.TD-Phaedra Rubycon,the greatest albums EVER.Get my drift.
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From:
Bradley Duke/Cambridge/IBM
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2003 10:00
pm
Subject: Astoria Poster in Existence?
Hi,
Can anyone tell me if there were any concert adverts (posters) for the
Astoria gig last month?
And if yes, does anyone have any?
And if yes, does anyone have any they'd wish to part with for moolah?
Thanks.
Brad
From:
Gustavo Jobim
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2003 10:43
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: KS and EF
I said:
> > Blackdance - 1974 (the first release with synths)
Colin replied:
>Alpha Centauri 1971 with Zither VCS3 Synthi and of course Zeit(...)
There seems to be a misunderstanding here; I was talking about KS's
discography, so Blackdance is _Schulze's_ first release with synths...
GJ np. Solaris
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From:
'Joe Shoults'
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2003 10:56
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Tagerine Dream v Jarre
Great early EM audioreference: OHM Records' 'The early gurus of electronic
music : 1948-1980'
http://music.barnesandnoble.com/search/product.asp?ean=52296367022
... not that I can sit there and listen to Clara Rockmore all day, but it is
a very interesting exploration. I'd also recommend the DVD 'Theremin - An
Electronic Odyssey' ASIN: B00005BKZO, and at amazon.com, you'll find related
links.
Every Electronic Music devotee should make it a point to put the headphones
on for 'Symphony in Three Movements' by Stravinsky.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gustavo Jobim [mailto:gustavojobim@s...]
> there was still Theremin, Varèse, Stockhausen, decades before Schulze,
> Froese, Jarre, Ralf und Florian, Göttsching, Czukay and Karoli, Diermaier
> and Irmler, Schnitzler, Moebius and Roedelius etc.
> and before Varèse, Stravinsky was making his orchestral explorations.
>
>
From:
'Adele Outland'
Date: Sat Mar 22, 2003 2:10
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Mota Atma tracklist and other details
I read this on that site:
The release of Mota Atma is supported by an extensive feature on the band on
150 US radio stations and on 'Echoes' (a daily two-hour music soundscape,
distributed by Public Radio International and broadcast on over 150 radio
stations from Maine to California).
Where/when/how? do I find out the schedule of broadcast? Anybody know and
can guide me? Thanks. 8-Dell
As time slips into memory, memory fades into dreams.
>From: 'ravnnet'
>Reply-To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
>To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [tadream] Mota Atma tracklist and other details
>
>You can pre-order and see more info at
>http://www.voiceprint.co.uk/catalogue.php/Release/1072/
>
>Regards,
>Peter
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From:
'Adele Outland'
Date: Sat Mar 22, 2003 2:22
am
Subject: Re: Mortiis (OT)
Actually, I think he looks like Blix. The Legend one, not the bomb sniffer
in Iraq. 8-Dell
All IMO of course
NP: Rockoon: I always follow the list. Penguin reference: I like the
musicality of it, but it is probably the only one I don't get any mind
pictures for and I guess it's because I can't really relate it to penguins.
It sounds more like a stroll down Broadway (also on the album) in top coat
and tails. Hm. Ok. I just saw a picture of a different kind of penguin!
As time slips into memory, memory fades into dreams.
>From: tom george
>Reply-To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
>To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [tadream] Tyranny of Beauty & Mortiis
>Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 04:46:21 -0800 (PST)
>Mortiis (for those that don't know) was in a death
>metal band called Emperor. After leaving them he
>made some albums under the band name Vond and then
>5 or so under his own name. His stage makeup and
>clothes resemble a really twisted version of Kiss.
>His face is made up to look like part bat, part
>troll and who knows what else but it is just plain
>scary. He wears a bizarre leather suit with bat
>wings. His music (after Emperor) is a mix of dark
>ambient, spoken non-english vocals, with loads of
>keyboards. I think he is from Norway. If you are
>curious about him have a look at www.mortiis.com.
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From:
'Pergamon'
Date: Sat Mar 22, 2003 2:32
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Guilty secrets / DEPECHE MODE
No, Tore tora tora and Big muff was written by Gore..........
> well, if you want to split hairs, _Speak and Spell_ isn't really a
> Depeche Mode album, it's a Vince Clarke album with DM as the backing
> band. I'm pretty sure that Clarke wrote and arranged all the songs
> on _S&S_.
> Gabe
From:
'Colin Jouxson'
Date: Sat Mar 22, 2003 8:14
am
Subject: Re: Mota Atma tracklist and other details
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Adele Outland'
wrote:
> I read this on that site:
>
> The release of Mota Atma is supported by an extensive feature on
the band on
> 150 US radio stations and on 'Echoes' (a daily two-hour music
soundscape,
> distributed by Public Radio International and broadcast on over 150
radio
> stations from Maine to California).
>
> Where/when/how? do I find out the schedule of broadcast? Anybody
know and
> can guide me? Thanks. 8-Dell
>
> As time slips into memory, memory fades into dreams.
>
> >From: 'ravnnet'
> >Reply-To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> >To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [tadream] Mota Atma tracklist and other details
> >
> >You can pre-order and see more info at
> >http://www.voiceprint.co.uk/catalogue.php/Release/1072/
> >
> >Regards,
> >Peter
> On the Astoria special release it states that the second track Gate
Of Saturn is from the forthcoming album Mota Atma,whilst looking at
the Voiceprint track list i could not seem to find it,if this track
is not to be included on the album,this will make the single a nice
collectors item,unless of course it comes out on a future compilation.
Best regards
Colin
>
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From:
'Mat Mckenzie'
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2003 10:09
am
Subject: RE: [tadream] Re: Guilty secrets / DEPECHE MODE
I'd have to chip in there!
I actually like beep beep electronics too & the tracks Photographic, Tora!
Tora! Tora!, Big Muff and Any Second Now Voices are pretty good though the
LP A Broken Frame was the one that got me into DM big time - much 'deeper'
I think I'd be right in saying DM 'themselves' try to brush their early stuff
under the carpet & forget about it but I like the vince clarkey bouncy fat
analogue sounds so i disagree with them too!
Mat
-----Original Message-----
From: Shez [mailto:shez@a...]
Sent: 20 March 2003 18:48
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Guilty secrets / DEPECHE MODE
>
>hmm, actually, I much prefer the material on speak & spell to virtually all
>their albums after that.
oh no, it's very poor musically.
beep beep beep new life new life beep beep beep
Ridiculous.
Only my opinion of course but I think tracks such as
'Never Let Me Down Again' are just more interesting.
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From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Sat Mar 22, 2003 9:07
am
Subject: RE: [tadream] Tagerine Dream v Jarre
>Great early EM audioreference: OHM Records' 'The early gurus of electronic
>music : 1948-1980'
>http://music.barnesandnoble.com/search/product.asp?ean=52296367022
>... not that I can sit there and listen to Clara Rockmore all day, but it
>is
>a very interesting exploration. I'd also recommend the DVD 'Theremin - An
>Electronic Odyssey' ASIN: B00005BKZO, and at amazon.com, you'll find
>related
>links.
I remember reading somewhere that the world's first purposeful electronic
sounds were produced already in World Expo of Whatever in the late 1800s...
the oscillator device was the size of a train car.
John Vertical
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From:
'Matthew Stringer'
Date: Sat Mar 22, 2003 11:30
am
Subject: RE: [tadream] OT: Waiting For Cousteau
Sorry if this has already been replied to!
The track was an example of fractal music, which is never supposed to
repeat. I've listened to them both many times (It was played at my
wedding whilst the guests arrived).
I believe that they are both different recordings rather than the LP
simply having an edit of the CD version.
It would be nice to hear a multi-channel SACD version!
Regards
Matthew
-----Original Message-----
From: Gustavo Jobim [mailto:gustavojobim@s...]
Sent: 17 March 2003 18:36
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Waiting For Cousteau
>But I have a question... which half is the one that
>occupied the second side of the lp? 0:00-23:00 or
>23:00-46:00? Regards, Marko Marin
I have no idea.
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From:
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Date: Sat Mar 22, 2003 1:12
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Mota Atma tracklist and other details
http://www.echoes.org/stattime.html
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adele Outland [mailto:outlanda60@h...]
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 9:10 PM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [tadream] Mota Atma tracklist and other details
>
>
> I read this on that site:
>
> The release of Mota Atma is supported by an extensive feature on
> the band on
> 150 US radio stations and on 'Echoes' (a daily two-hour music soundscape,
> distributed by Public Radio International and broadcast on over 150 radio
> stations from Maine to California).
>
> Where/when/how? do I find out the schedule of broadcast? Anybody know and
> can guide me? Thanks. 8-Dell
>
> As time slips into memory, memory fades into dreams.
>
> >From: 'ravnnet'
> >Reply-To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> >To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [tadream] Mota Atma tracklist and other details
> >
> >You can pre-order and see more info at
> >http://www.voiceprint.co.uk/catalogue.php/Release/1072/
> >
> >Regards,
> >Peter
>
>
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From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Sat Mar 22, 2003 1:59
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] OT: Waiting For Cousteau
>The track was an example of fractal music, which is never supposed to
>repeat. I've listened to them both many times (It was played at my
>wedding whilst the guests arrived).
'Fractal music'. Nice term, did you coin that yourself or is it JMJ's own
description?
It indeed has some strange properties... like, it sort of absorbs all
sufficiently quiet outside noise into itself. 'You can not wade twice in the
same river' or whatever the correct English version for that phrase is.
John Vertical
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Date: Sat Mar 22, 2003 2:09
pm
Subject: Monica
I was wondering here... plenty of TD photos are taken by Monica. But are
there any photos of Mrs. Froese herself in existence?
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From:
Mondarino
Date: Sat Mar 22, 2003 2:23
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] FAQ
Hi all,
Long time TD fan, but first post here.
>Steve Jenkins was hosting one on his web site at www.lpool.demon.co.uk
>However, it looks like the link is dead now. I and many others on the
>old UWP list contributed to Steve's FAQ, which was an update from an
>older text-only version.
Steve posted a message to the redshift group on 01/13 telling his new address.
However, I'm not a member there and email addresses are hidden to the outsiders:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/redshift/message/182
>If not, has anyone else archived it?
I have it ... printed. :-(
Regards.
Edu
From:
'Bill Fox'
Date: Sat Mar 22, 2003 3:04
pm
Subject: EMUSIC Playlist #313 for March 20, 2003, the Vernal Equinox
[ Best viewed using a fixed spacing font. ]
EMUSIC is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday
at 11:00 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton,
PA and Phillipsburg, NJ.
Show #313 March 20, 2003.
RECAP:
On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Spacecraft, a spacemusic
group originally inspired the the Voyager space probe. The Featured CD at
midnight was 'Earthtime Tapestry' on the Lektronic Soundscapes label.
The Vinyl Starter was from the LP 'Macula Transfer' by Edgar Froese on the
Brain label.
I played the music of vidnaObmana who will play at the next Soundscapes in
Bethlehem, Pennsylvania on April 19. I also played the music of Vir Unis and
James Johnson who will be playing at the Gathering in Philadelphia on April 12.
Tonight at 8 pm was the vernal equinox. (It's Spring!!)
Spacecraft http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic/playlists/2003/focus03.html#mar
The Soundscapes Concert Series http://soundscapes.us
The Gatherings Concert Series http://thegatherings.org
PLAYLIST:
ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label)
======================= ======================== ==============================
11:00 pm
Edgar Froese if 810 Macula Transfer (Brain)
Jean Michel Jarre Equinoxe Part 5 Equinoxe (Dreyfus)
Jean Michel Jarre Equinoxe Part 6 Equinoxe (Dreyfus)
Jean Michel Jarre Equinoxe Part 7 Equinoxe (Dreyfus)
Jean Michel Jarre Equinoxe Part 8 Equinoxe (Dreyfus)
Dom F. Scab Message of Missing Birds Facta (Groove)
Robert Carty Sounding Into Life Sonic (Space for Music)
VA [Oleg Buloshkin] Sacrament Electroacoustic Music - Volume
IV (Electroshock)
vidnaObmana Traditional Spirit Twilight of Perception
(Projekt)
Vir Unis Continuous Prehistory 2 Perimeter (Zero Music and In
James Johnson the Bubble Music)
Jurgen Haible Knitters of Black Wool Holiday in Purgatory (none)
Gert Emmens Gaspra Wanderer of Time (Groove)
12:00 am
Spacecraft Earthtime Tapestry Earthtime Tapestry (Lektronic
Soundscapes)
Spacecraft Living World Earthtime Tapestry (L.S.)
Spacecraft Dreams of One Earthtime Tapestry (L.S.)
Spacecraft Elder's Mourning Earthtime Tapestry (L.S.)
Spacecraft Migrations Earthtime Tapestry (L.S.)
Spacecraft Cycles Earthtime Tapestry (L.S.)
Spacecraft Beyond Earthtime Tapestry (L.S.)
Spacecraft Stepping Lightly Earthtime Tapestry (L.S.)
Spacecraft Seed Earthtime Tapestry (L.S.)
Spacecraft Thread of Continuity Earthtime Tapestry (L.S.)
1:00 am
* = exerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)
NEXT SHOW:
On the next EMUSIC, I'll conclude the month-long focus on Spacecraft. The
Featured CD at Midnight will be 'Summer Town' on the Space for Music label.
The vinyl show starter will be from the LP 'Mosaic,' an LP by Richard Burmer
on Fortuna Records.
I will also play the music of vidnaObmana, Vir Unis, and James Johnson who will
be appearing at local concerts in April.
Bill
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11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and
Phillipsburg. http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic All times are GMT-5:00
Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN
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Host of the AM/FM Show on WMUH Allentown 91.7 FM every other Saturday at 6 am.
Host of Afterglow on WMUH every Thursday morning from 8:00 to 9:30.
http://soundscapes.us/~bill/amfm http://soundscapes.us/~bill/afterglow
Listen on-line to WMUH at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click REAL AUDIO
Personal site: http://soundscapes.us/~bill All times are GMT-5:00
SOUNDSCAPES Concert Series: http://soundscapes.us
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From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Sat Mar 22, 2003 3:04
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Tagerine Dream v Jarre
>who was the teacher?
>
>just one cent more.
Is it safe to claim that TD, Chris Franke mainly, was however the first to
sequence anything? With a sequencer, that is.
John Vertical
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From:
Harry
Date: Sat Mar 22, 2003 4:27
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] TT3 review time...
on 3/20/03 9:35 PM, Jim Moore at (deleted).com wrote:
(excerpt)
> some us of would like to hear the
> music as this band hasn't toured the US in nine years! And maybe someone
> might be recording the show and no one want to preserve your damn yap for
> posterity for the next fifteen years!'
As one who's knowledgeable of matters of stealth taping, crowd yapping is
the bane of audience recording. I blame television. Seriously. People get
accustomed to talking while the 'performance' is ensuing. And don't even get
me started about (movie) screen talkers.
An example: I have a master of October 17, 1992; Chicago taped from
approximately 2 meters from the front of the center of the stage. Using what
could be considered a low cost but professional grade setup (cardioid mics)
the sound quality from that close of range is excellent. Unfortunately the
adult refreshments has loosened the tongues of far too many people. If these
people could listen to the playback, they would be embarrassed to hear the
banality of the subjects they chose to talk about. Especially in light of
the fact that they paid good money and went to some effort to go to the show
to do something that would be more comfortable and better serve the other
audience members if they stayed at home. I don't get it.
On the other side of the equation are those that are really enjoying the
music. Perhaps too much so. I can understand and actually would welcome wild
applause and shouts of appreciation after the songs have completed, but such
after each musical PHRASE is a bit much. Hence what could have been a moment
of TD history enjoyed by many over and over, is instead relegated to gather
dust.
Still, lesson learned I suppose: Forget about taping in a night club venue.
At concert hall settings you stand half a chance. Sometimes.
Dream On,
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From:
Paul Fellows
Date: Sat Mar 22, 2003 7:03
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Mota Atma tracklist and other details
Hi all,
I've added a page for Mota Atma which groups together all the known info
about it so far:
http://perso.club-internet.fr/pfellows/webpages/motaatma.html
Cheers
Paul
From:
Klaus Beschorner
Date: Sat Mar 22, 2003 9:26
pm
Subject: FAQ
>>If not, has anyone else archived it?
I still have the text and html versions, last update Feb 1st, 1999
cheers,
klaus
From:
Chris Richards
Date: Sat Mar 22, 2003 9:36
pm
Subject: Re: sequencers
<>
Sequencers date back at least to the late 60's. I
believe Morton Subotnick used one on Silver
Apples Of The Moon (or maybe it's the other piece
that also appears on the Silver Apples CD). I'm
sure there are other examples, but that's the
only one I know of off hand. I always had the
impression that the synthesizer part on The Who's
Baba O'Riley was done with a sequencer as well,
but I'm not positive about that one.
And I suppose this is concurrent with Phaedra,
but Keith Emerson used a sequencer at the end of
ELP's Karn Evil 9 Third Impression.
I remember Wendy Carlos once being asked what she
used her sequencer for, and she said 'Nothing'.
As I recall, she said she did some TV appearances
back in the late 60's, and the CBS execs
apparently thought the flashing lights would look
impressive to TV viewers.
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From:
'Greg'
Date: Sat Mar 22, 2003 9:52
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: sequencers
> I remember Wendy Carlos once being asked what she
> used her sequencer for, and she said 'Nothing'.
> As I recall, she said she did some TV appearances
> back in the late 60's, and the CBS execs
> apparently thought the flashing lights would look
> impressive to TV viewers.
>
> May you never thirst!
> The Scuba Diver Presently Known As Chris
Amazing how today in America it is decidedly anti-synthesizer and
anti-progressive. Seeing someone play a synthesizer on TV would get stamped
dork over here. I find it amusing how they push back all keyboard players in
a band into darkness. I also find the macho guitar playing mentality
entirely silly and the mannerisms laughable. Give me sophistication and
layers of complexity any day.
Greg H.
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From:
'Glenn Folkvord \(Hyperion Media\)'
Date: Sat Mar 22, 2003 11:28
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Waiting For Cousteau
----- Original Message -----
From: 'John Vertical'
> 'Fractal music'. Nice term, did you coin that yourself or is it JMJ's own
> description?
It's JMJs description, but he did not invent it. Fractal music is simply
based on a random generator, in this case for WFC being run by an Atari
computer who randomly (within parameters defined by JMJ) selected MIDI data.
The idea of fractals in art is not a new concept however.
Glenn
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From:
'Jim Moore'
Date: Sat Mar 22, 2003 11:41
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] TT3 review time...
I finally got a chance to hear Volume 21 today [21 concert recordings of
great quality -- thanks again to everyone who made these Trees available!].
At the beginning I was really concerned the folks heard at the beginning of
the show were going to continue through the whole program and that I was
going to have to work harder on that time machine. Fortunately, they seemed
to have gotten the net (or passed out), and it quickly turns out to be a
great concert!
At the Astoria gig, there were a few people around me who were beginning to
be distractions including a couple who took the concert as an opportunity to
make out. Not wanting to be a voyeur, I managed to work my way in front of
them by the second set. I wasn't recording the show (hell, they managed to
take my camera from me), so I wasn't concerned so much except that it was
distracting from my own personal experience (which is why I get so grumpy
when I hear people talking on recordings). Maybe TD should raise the price
of their gigs so that the 'riff raff' will be less inclined to attend --
that would be unfair to the fans that couldn't quite afford it, though.
- jim
-----Original Message-----
From: Harry [mailto:TaDream@c...]
As one who's knowledgeable of matters of stealth taping, crowd yapping is
the bane of audience recording. I blame television. Seriously. People get
accustomed to talking while the 'performance' is ensuing. And don't even get
me started about (movie) screen talkers.
An example: I have a master of October 17, 1992; Chicago taped from
approximately 2 meters from the front of the center of the stage. Using what
could be considered a low cost but professional grade setup (cardioid mics)
the sound quality from that close of range is excellent.
From:
'Jim Moore'
Date: Sat Mar 22, 2003 11:41
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Re: sequencers
Hear! Hear! I have a gentleman from Brazil working in my team. One day he
picked up that I was listening to some mid-80's Tangerine Dream. His first
comment was: 'I didn't think you Americans listened to good music!' We
started comparing lists of favorite bands and found we had much in common.
However, he told me that many of the named bands were *still* considered
popular in his home country.
I'll back up my country in most respects, but I had to agree with my friend
that the state of popular music in the U.S. has become decreasingly
disappointing to me since the mid-90's. Fortunately, the advance of
technology has made it easier to acquire more of the music that I like.
Still, it makes me sad that bands (mostly progressive, I'll give) like
Kansas, Yes, Asia and others whose members could play circles around other
groups musicians are playing small and obscure venues.
- jim
-----Original Message-----
From: Greg [mailto:designx@c...]
Amazing how today in America it is decidedly anti-synthesizer and
anti-progressive. Seeing someone play a synthesizer on TV would get stamped
dork over here. I find it amusing how they push back all keyboard players in
a band into darkness. I also find the macho guitar playing mentality
entirely silly and the mannerisms laughable. Give me sophistication and
layers of complexity any day.
From:
'Andrzej Osadców'
Date: Sun Mar 23, 2003 1:39
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Digital Soundtrack Collection
If I'm not too late, look there:
http://perso.club-internet.fr/pfellows/webpages/dsc.html
and dream on,
Andy
On Sat, 08 Mar 2003 20:32:05 +0100, Paul Fellows wrote
> Just interested to know, where did the labels come from? Didn't do any
> myself. Are they available on line anywhere?
> Paul
From:
quarlie@a...
Date: Sun Mar 23, 2003 3:21
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: sequencers
In a message dated 3/22/03 7:41:23 PM, moxica@a... writes:
>Still, it makes me sad that bands (mostly progressive, I'll give) like
>Kansas, Yes, Asia and others whose members could play circles around other
>groups musicians are playing small and obscure venues.
I can only speak for my own region, but the last few times they've come
through northern Ohio, Yes has played at Blossom Music Center, a large
outdoor venue that has also recently hosted Depeche Mode, Radiohead and many
other major acts. Not to mention the Cleveland Orchestra. :)
--Daniel
NP: Iron Chef
From:
'Admin'
Date: Sun Mar 23, 2003 5:24
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Tagerine Dream v Jarre
Once again, Martin you speak the truth. While I like Jarre too, the posts
just head into one of those alternative universe we all hear about. There
are a great deal more folks who was poking at a resistors and capacitors in
the hey day. TD is one of the forerunners, so is Jarre. Each has it special
place with me. I like to mention Larry Fast, Yes and even a few others who
manage a bit of the electronics. Just this isn't the venue for it.
dale
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----- Original Message -----
From: 'TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak'
To:
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Tagerine Dream v Jarre
>
>and Schulze was who introduced synths to Edgar...
Sorry, Gustavo, but that is complete bull... Schulze used to be a drummer,
especially in his short time in TD. Edgar already played Mellotrons and
experimented with electronic devices when Schulze had not laid his hands on
an electronic device yet. And actually Schulze only started turning to
electronics and synthesizer music after TD had acquired their modular Moog
from a Rollings Stones related source.
And believe me, I have seen solid evidence for what I am saying.
I believe that you´re right in the rest of your comment that TD were not
the first people to experiment with electronic musical devices, but I
cannot let this stand.
Best regards,
Martin Kasprzak
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Fax:-49-30-23620996
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From:
'fozziebear'
Date: Sun Mar 23, 2003 8:46
am
Subject: Taken / Firestarter
The series Taken has just finished on UK tv. Watching it I kept thinking of
Firestarter back in 1984. Even the lead girl looked like Drew Barrymore.
Shame Mr Spielnerg didn't ask TD to do the music for Taken. Did anyone else
watch it?
David
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From:
'Marcel Engels'
Date: Sun Mar 23, 2003 9:08
am
Subject: RE: [tadream] Re: sequencers
> From: Chris Richards [mailto:kohntarkosz@y...]
>
> < mainly, was however the first to sequence
> anything? With a sequencer, that is.>>
>
> Sequencers date back at least to the late 60's. I
> believe Morton Subotnick used one on Silver
> Apples Of The Moon (or maybe it's the other piece
> that also appears on the Silver Apples CD). I'm
> sure there are other examples, but that's the
> only one I know of off hand. I always had the
> impression that the synthesizer part on The Who's
> Baba O'Riley was done with a sequencer as well,
> but I'm not positive about that one.
I believe Tomita used 2 sequencers before Phaedra
came out.
When oh when are there any multichannel recordings
coming out from his old recordings???
Are there any plans from TD doing such a thing?
Marcel
http://home.wanadoo.nl/mengels
mengels@w...
From:
Richard
Date: Sun Mar 23, 2003 9:37
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Taken / Firestarter
And talking of Firestarter, anyone seen/watched the Firestarter 2 that
sneaked out on DVD WITHOUT a TD soundtrack?
Any good, or is it like most sequels, a cheap and nasty copy of the
original?
>The series Taken has just finished on UK tv. Watching it I kept
>thinking of Firestarter back in 1984. Even the lead girl looked like
>Drew Barrymore. Shame Mr Spielnerg didn't ask TD to do the music for
>Taken. Did anyone else watch it?
--
Richard F
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From:
Robert Grabowsky
Date: Sun Mar 23, 2003 11:41
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Taken / Firestarter
Firestarter 2 was shown on the SciFi channel. I believe they even produced
it. It was pretty good even tho there was no TD.
Taken however I felt was kind of a let down. I expected more and also with
the SciFi channel running 4 minutes of commercials every 5-10 mins did not
help either.
THE HIGHLANDER
At 09:37 AM 3/23/03 +0000, you wrote:
>And talking of Firestarter, anyone seen/watched the Firestarter 2 that
>sneaked out on DVD WITHOUT a TD soundtrack?
>
>Any good, or is it like most sequels, a cheap and nasty copy of the
>original?
>
>
>>The series Taken has just finished on UK tv. Watching it I kept
>>thinking of Firestarter back in 1984. Even the lead girl looked like
>>Drew Barrymore. Shame Mr Spielnerg didn't ask TD to do the music for
>>Taken. Did anyone else watch it?
>--
>Richard F
From:
'Gary Jenkins'
Date: Sun Mar 23, 2003 11:38
am
Subject: Re: Taken / Firestarter
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Richard wrote:
> And talking of Firestarter, anyone seen/watched the Firestarter 2
that
> sneaked out on DVD WITHOUT a TD soundtrack?
>
> Any good, or is it like most sequels, a cheap and nasty copy of the
> original?
>
> They have been showing it on sky recently in two parts as it is
nearly 3 hours long and I sadly watched it.It is pretty much TV movie
standard with Malcom Mcdowell playing the nasty man trying to find
the grown up Charly it also features Dennis Hopper.
I see the original Firestarter is available now on DVD Reg 2.
Gary
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From:
Antonio Nunes
Date: Sun Mar 23, 2003 1:23
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Digital Soundtrack Collection
Paul Fellows wrote
>
> > Just interested to know, where did the labels come from?
and Andrzej Osadców answered:
>
> If I'm not too late, look there:
> http://perso.club-internet.fr/pfellows/webpages/dsc.html
I'm sure Paul Fellows has looked already many times at that particular
page :-)
Antonio Nunes
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From:
David Dunham
Date: Sun Mar 23, 2003 2:20
pm
Subject: OT Tomita
I believe Tomita used 2 sequencers before Phaedra
came out.
When oh when are there any multichannel recordings
coming out from his old recordings???
Are there any plans from TD doing such a thing?
Marcel
I have the the first (3) Tomita Cds'd and they are
done in Dolby 5.1
Dave
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From:
'Paul Dryden'
Date: Sun Mar 23, 2003 3:04
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: sequencers
I think Baba O'Riley was a organ chords fed into a VCS 3-sort of chopping it
up into chunks
Paulus.d!
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Chris Richards'
To:
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 9:36 PM
Subject: [tadream] Re: sequencers
> < mainly, was however the first to sequence
> anything? With a sequencer, that is.>>
>
> Sequencers date back at least to the late 60's. I
> believe Morton Subotnick used one on Silver
> Apples Of The Moon (or maybe it's the other piece
> that also appears on the Silver Apples CD). I'm
> sure there are other examples, but that's the
> only one I know of off hand. I always had the
> impression that the synthesizer part on The Who's
> Baba O'Riley was done with a sequencer as well,
> but I'm not positive about that one.
>
> And I suppose this is concurrent with Phaedra,
> but Keith Emerson used a sequencer at the end of
> ELP's Karn Evil 9 Third Impression.
>
> I remember Wendy Carlos once being asked what she
> used her sequencer for, and she said 'Nothing'.
> As I recall, she said she did some TV appearances
> back in the late 60's, and the CBS execs
> apparently thought the flashing lights would look
> impressive to TV viewers.
>
>
> =====
> May you never thirst!
> The Scuba Diver Presently Known As Chris
>
> 'What do you get when you give a yo-yo to a flock of flamingos?'-James
Earl Jones
>
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From:
Richard
Date: Sun Mar 23, 2003 3:29
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Taken / Firestarter
>I see the original Firestarter is available now on DVD Reg 2.
Yes, Widescreen, Stereo soundtrack and cheap!
--
Richard F
From:
Volkmar Friauf
Date: Sun Mar 23, 2003 4:53
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT KS - Dreams lyrics
If anyone should be receiving the 'KS Circle' newsletter - the lyrics are
listed in #30.
(No, I don't have that issue, or I would have looked it up & given it here
myself!)
At 23:03 21.03.2003, Gustavo Jobim wrote:
>Hello,
>
>does anyone have the lyrics for Klaustrophony, the last track from KS' Dreams?
From:
'Dave Brewer'
Date: Sun Mar 23, 2003 6:02
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: sequencers
According to the liner notes of the remastered Who's Next, Baba O'Riley and
Won't Get Fooled Again were borne from ARP synth demos that Townshend
recorded. I imagine it's the 2600 since he had one (according to Mark
Vail's book).
Regards,
Dave B.
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Dryden
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 23, 2003 8:04 AM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: sequencers
>I think Baba O'Riley was a organ chords fed into a VCS 3-sort of chopping
it
>up into chunks
>
>Paulus.d!
From:
Paul Fellows
Date: Sun Mar 23, 2003 6:08
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Digital Soundtrack Collection
You could say that :-)
on 23/03/03 14:23, Antonio Nunes at hyperborean@m... wrote:
> Paul Fellows wrote
>>
>>> Just interested to know, where did the labels come from?
>
> and Andrzej Osadców answered:
>>
>> If I'm not too late, look there:
>> http://perso.club-internet.fr/pfellows/webpages/dsc.html
>
>
> I'm sure Paul Fellows has looked already many times at that particular
> page :-)
>
> Antonio Nunes
From:
'Marcelo Gutierrez'
Date: Sun Mar 23, 2003 6:24
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Digital Soundtrack Collection
If it is not already too late, how can I get a copy of this fine looking
collection?
I know at some point there was a tree going but I do not know if the tree is
still active or if anyone out there has a copy and is interested in trading
please let me know privately.
Thanks
Marcelo
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Fellows
To:
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Digital Soundtrack Collection
You could say that :-)
on 23/03/03 14:23, Antonio Nunes at hyperborean@m... wrote:
> Paul Fellows wrote
>>
>>> Just interested to know, where did the labels come from?
>
> and Andrzej Osadców answered:
>>
>> If I'm not too late, look there:
>> http://perso.club-internet.fr/pfellows/webpages/dsc.html
>
>
> I'm sure Paul Fellows has looked already many times at that particular
> page :-)
>
> Antonio Nunes
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From:
'Marcel Engels'
Date: Sun Mar 23, 2003 6:30
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] OT Tomita
> From: David Dunham [mailto:tandreamelp@y...]
>
> I have the the first (3) Tomita Cds'd and they are
> done in Dolby 5.1
Yeah???
I thought they were Dolby Surround, but if they are
5.1 then I will definitely check them out.
I hope to see more electronic music releases with
this format. I know it's a lot of work, as I'm exploring
it also.
Marcel
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From:
'gyedid01'
Date: Sun Mar 23, 2003 8:32
pm
Subject: can't find any info about _Mota Atma_ on Echoes site
Hi all,
I took a look at the Echoes web site, and I can't find any
information there about _Mota Atma_. Where did the people who posted
about this find it?
cheers,
Gabe
From:
Klaus Beschorner
Date: Sun Mar 23, 2003 9:39
pm
Subject: TT3 review time
> Still, lesson learned I suppose: Forget about taping in a night club venue.
> At concert hall settings you stand half a chance. Sometimes.
Harry, hey,I thought you'd never post here ;-)
100% agreement, just one comment - sometimes I just wished I knew what kind
of venue to expect before I fly trans-atlantic - they served drinks and
food during the concert at the SF Warfield in '92. Had I only known before
;-)cheers,
klaus
From:
Date: Sun Mar 23, 2003 10:21
pm
Subject: Digital Soundtrack Collection CD Labels
I had posted this before:
I took the front cover artwork and opened each of them in Adobe Photoshop 7.
Then I took the erase feature and erased the title and words across the center
of the front cover, leaving the volume number along the side. Then save each
cover individually. Now you have the front cover and only the volume number.
Now, import these saved covers into whichever CD label template you are
printing from. Now you have CD labels that look just like the cover artwork, no
words, but just the volume number.
Voila, numbered CD labels.
Hope this help.
Neal
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Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 03:39:40 +0200
From: 'Andrzej Osadców'
Subject: Re: Digital Soundtrack Collection
If I'm not too late, look there:
http://perso.club-internet.fr/pfellows/webpages/dsc.html
and dream on,
Andy
On Sat, 08 Mar 2003 20:32:05 +0100, Paul Fellows wrote
> Just interested to know, where did the labels come from? Didn't do any
> myself. Are they available on line anywhere?
> Paul
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From:
'vic rek'
Date: Sun Mar 23, 2003 10:47
pm
Subject: The Keep LP - Not
I walked into a used record store today in New Jersey and I asked the owner
if he had any Tangerine Dream.
He said that he tought that he may have 'The Keep' LP. For a second I
turned pale and my heart stopped, then he said - 'I wish they had released
this soundtrack - It's a great movie'. Anyway, this guy really caught me
off guard since I didn't say anythting earlier to him about TD.
Vic
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From:
Chris Richards
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 5:27
am
Subject: Re: Anti-synthesizer?!?!?!?!
<>
I didn't realize America was 'anti-synthesizer',
considering how popular techno music is here. If
there is an 'anti-synth' or 'anti-technology'
movement, it probably has more to do with
untalented people being able to make records
thanks to the advances of the last 25 years. This
goes back to the early 80's, when a lot of pop
and new wave records were being spewed out by
people who couldn't play anything but block
chords (though you'd never know it, thanks to the
built in arpeggiators that were popular during
that era).
Nowadays, not only can you make an incompetent
keyboardist sound good, you can also make a lousy
drummer sound like Neil Peart simply by cutting
and pasting his drum parts inside a computer. You
can also make a tone deaf singer sound like
he/she at least can sing on key. Your band just
barely cuts it as a garage band? No problem! With
the help of Pro Tools, you'll sound tighter than
James Brown's back up band.
It is a shame that MTV, VH-1, and US radio have
gone the way they have, though, forcing all the
good stuff underground. Oh well.
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The Scuba Diver Presently Known As Chris
'What do you get when you give a yo-yo to a flock of flamingos?'-James Earl
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From:
Chris Richards
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 5:39
am
Subject: Re: sequencers
<>
That's Won't Get Fooled Again you're thinking of,
where Townshend played chords on a Thomas organ
(I think it was a Thomas Organ). The organ had an
effect (I think it was called 'mandolin repeat'
or something like that), which is what causing
teh 'chopping it up into chunks' effect. He then
fed the signal from the organ into a VCS3 for the
swirling filter effect.
There's no way Townshend did Baba O'Riley in the
same manner. It may have been another production
trick, but it sounds like two sequencers
controlling two sets of VCO's (or maybe one part
was overdubbed).
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From:
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Date: Sun Mar 23, 2003 10:44
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: sequencers
I'm not vouching for the accuracy of the statement but I recall an interview
with Townsend where he said he had an arp 2500 at the time (the big arp
modular model) and that Terry Riley, the composer, helped him with the
sequence--hence the title.
Won't Get Fooled Again, OTOH, was supposed to be as one poster described, an
organ with a VCS.
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From:
'lee_nielinger'
Date: Sun Mar 23, 2003 7:57
pm
Subject: Mota Atma tracklist and other details
Has anyone noticed that the Voice Print site track listing for MOTA
ATMA does NOT include GATE OF SATURN??
Is it on there or what Martin K??
From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 7:51
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Mota Atma tracklist and other details
>Has anyone noticed that the Voice Print site track listing for MOTA
>ATMA does NOT include GATE OF SATURN??
>
>Is it on there or what Martin K??
For some reason, Voices in the Net suggests that Gate of Saturn is from some
another upcoming album...
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From:
Paul Fellows
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:50
am
Subject: [tadream] The Keep TDI for sale & exchange
Hi all,
I'm selling a sealed copy of the Keep 1999 TDI version on e-bay at the
moment, no reserve, it's only at 50 dollars at the moment:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2518096826
I also have a second copy available for exchange, as well as one copy of the
Sony Centre score, have a look at my swaplist:
http://perso.club-internet.fr/pfellows/webpages/swaplist.html
Cheers
Paul
From:
TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 10:17
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Mortiis (OT)
At 21:22 21.03.03, you wrote:
>Actually, I think he looks like Blix. The Legend one, not the bomb sniffer
>in Iraq. 8-Dell
*Now that you mention it... I agree... :-)
Best regards,
Martin Kasprzak
TDI- Music- Support.
Tel:-49-30-23620995
Fax:-49-30-23620996
Visit our Website at:
http://www.tangerinedream.org
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From:
Rolf Elfström
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 11:02
am
Subject: Re: Mortiis (OT)
> >Actually, I think he looks like Blix. The Legend one, not the bomb sniffer
> >in Iraq. 8-Dell
>
>*Now that you mention it... I agree... :-)
>
>Best regards,
>Martin Kasprzak
Actually, Blix (in Legend) was based on Keith Richard
(Rolling Stones)... =)
Rolf
From:
'tei waz'
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 1:46
pm
Subject: irvine/ ot concert chatter and bleep d.mode bleep
From: 'Jim Moore'
Subject: RE: TT3 review time...
>I mean, did they actually pay money to attend that
concert?
Yes, I did and it wasn't that cheap--4th row orchestra blah blah. My buddy
was sitting next to Monique in the 3rd row in front of me.
>Was this actually a dinner/concert venue?
>Was there like a lot of loud construction going on in their communities
>that they had to escape to a concert venue to have a conversation?
Well it was Edgar's 42nd birthday--can't really say that about any of the
other shows on the tour and certainly cause for much partying in my
book--and remember it was LA in 1986 (OK orange county the same but
different)--lots of nervous chatter from whatever drugs were around at the
time.
>And why didn't the person making the recording take a cricket bat to
their heads during the beginning of the concert?
Because taping etiquette generally means you don't shush people cause you
are illegally taping--you don't interfere with their chatter or whatever
cause you wanna bootleg for some reason or another. Particularly if you
want to not expose yourself as a taper and if you'd like to actually see the
whole show. Now, if you placed your mikes in your hat or at audience height
or aren't using shotguns or someother isolating mikes or whatever well you
just gotta expect audience noise--especially in LA-LA-LAnd where they've
already seen everything before, they're jaded and nothing impresses them. I
mean jeez there was a show at Universal Amphitheatre the night before, so
the audience could easily have seen more than one show. Hell, I had a
ticket to the Warfield show in SF before that--but I was interviewing in
Southern California and had to forgo the San Francisco show.
Personally, I liked the outdoor show better anyway--the giant flames were
particularly impressive--whereas some of the theatrical effects worked
better at the indoor Universal show--IIRC, where they had the effect that
shoots light and sputters dry ice into the audience. And I'm not
sure--don't have a full tape of Universal, but I swear TD played one more
piece or maybe they played a different track at that show than they did
Irvine......
___________________________
From: 'gyedid01'
Subject: Re: Guilty secrets / DEPECHE MODE
>well, if you want to split hairs, _Speak and Spell_ isn't really a
Depeche Mode album
yes it is, it says depeche mode on the cover and was most certainly the only
Depeche Mode album that you could buy when it came out--I know, I did.
>it's a Vince Clarke album with DM as the backing
band. I'm pretty sure that Clarke wrote and arranged all the songs
on _S&S_.
um, well I know that's not true--what is true is that Vince left the
band--which left DM scrambling somewhat as they were used to four guys each
with their own mixer feeding into a four track ubermixer for recording. And
it wasn't clear at the time whether they'd actually be able to write as
catchy pop songs as when Vince was in the band. Their sophomore release
proved that they would be able to continue without VC.
>to try and get this thread on topic, wouldn't it be cool if TD could
do some DM covers as encores for their shows?
I was at the infamous 101 rosebowl DM show and before DM came onstage a TD
track from EXIT was played. So, while perhaps now threadbare--a DM
discussion isn't exactly that far off-topic since DM are TD fans.......
--T
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From:
David Dunham
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 2:33
pm
Subject: TD on Echoes
I got this reply about TD on Echos
At 10:55 PM 3/21/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Hi. I read somewere you were going to feature
Tangerine Dream music soon. Could you tell me when
this will happen. I listen to WXPN in Philly. Thanks
David Dunham
from Echos Tangerine Dream was on our on-line
streaming for January, rather than on the air.Here's
the link:
http://www.echoes.org/online.html
Gail Glass
Assistant Producer
www.echoes.org
P.S. You are right Marcel. It is Dolby
Surround sound
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From:
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Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 4:14
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] OT Tomita
They sound pretty good but the Japanese releases are a
whole lot better.
--- Marcel Engels wrote:
> > From: David Dunham [mailto:tandreamelp@y...]
> >
> > I have the the first (3) Tomita Cds'd and they
> are
> > done in Dolby 5.1
>
> Yeah???
> I thought they were Dolby Surround, but if they are
> 5.1 then I will definitely check them out.
> I hope to see more electronic music releases with
> this format. I know it's a lot of work, as I'm
> exploring
> it also.
>
> Marcel
> http://home.wanadoo.nl/mengels
> mengels@w...
>
>
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From:
Darren Fricker
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 4:17
pm
Subject: Paging Simon Slater
Firstly, apologies for waste of bandwidth.
I'm trying to contact Simon Slater, simon@s...
He's my SHN branch for the TT3 tree - I've emailed him but not received a reply.
Simon - can you contact me offlist so we can sort something out.
Alternatively, if anyone in the UK [postage...] has this as an original SHN set
I'd be interested in a trade.
Cheers.
Darren.
From:
'billythefish01'
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 4:31
pm
Subject: Re: irvine/ ot concert chatter and bleep d.mode bleep
Best place to record a show is the centre of the balcony (if there
is one) - you get the best of the stereo image and the ambience of
the hall, plus you are usually in a more mellow location (not that
there are often mosh pits at TD concerts!).
Also, there are rarely problems telling your neighbours that you are
recording - they are usually impressed and can always be sent a copy
as a bribe. If there is a problem it is easy just to move away a
couple of rows and try again.
TTFN,
BTF
np - Dell cooling fan
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'tei waz' wrote:
> From: 'Jim Moore'
> Subject: RE: TT3 review time...
>
> >And why didn't the person making the recording take a cricket bat
to
> their heads during the beginning of the concert?
>
> Because taping etiquette generally means you don't shush people
cause you
> are illegally taping--you don't interfere with their chatter or
whatever
> cause you wanna bootleg for some reason or another. Particularly
if you
> want to not expose yourself as a taper and if you'd like to
actually see the
> whole show. Now, if you placed your mikes in your hat or at
audience height
> or aren't using shotguns or someother isolating mikes or whatever
well you
> just gotta expect audience noise--especially in LA-LA-LAnd where
they've
> already seen everything before, they're jaded and nothing
impresses them. I
> mean jeez there was a show at Universal Amphitheatre the night
before, so
> the audience could easily have seen more than one show. Hell, I
had a
> ticket to the Warfield show in SF before that--but I was
interviewing in
> Southern California and had to forgo the San Francisco show.
From:
'Marcel Engels'
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 6:34
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] OT Tomita
I don't believe they are in 5.1, but only in
Dolby Surround.
Now there is some good news, The Planets is about
to be released in 5.1!
http://www.isaotomita.net/tomita/news.html
Now, if only TD would do such a thing with the
classic albums...that would be great.
Only great if they really use the original material.
Marcel
http://home.wanadoo.nl/mengels
mengels@w...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wade Gordon [mailto:mindvoyager1@y...]
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 5:14 PM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [tadream] OT Tomita
>
>
> They sound pretty good but the Japanese releases are a
> whole lot better.
> --- Marcel Engels wrote:
> > > From: David Dunham [mailto:tandreamelp@y...]
> > >
> > > I have the the first (3) Tomita Cds'd and they
> > are
> > > done in Dolby 5.1
> >
> > Yeah???
> > I thought they were Dolby Surround, but if they are
> > 5.1 then I will definitely check them out.
> > I hope to see more electronic music releases with
> > this format. I know it's a lot of work, as I'm
> > exploring
> > it also.
> >
> > Marcel
> > http://home.wanadoo.nl/mengels
> > mengels@w...
> >
> >
> >
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From:
moxica@a...
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 6:31
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Mortiis (OT)
I heard the *UN* inspector Hans Blix was based on the lovable Mr. Magoo
cartoon...
--
Jim Moore, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
moxica@a...
>
> > >Actually, I think he looks like Blix. The Legend one, not the bomb sniffer
> > >in Iraq. 8-Dell
> >
> Actually, Blix (in Legend) was based on Keith Richard
> (Rolling Stones)... =)
From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:09
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] FAQ
I just sent Steve a message. If he has a more recent copy than Klaus has
archived on his site (1999), then I'll see if I can get him to host it
again, or at least get a copy...
Klaus: I noticed a few items in the FAQ at your site that I thought had
been updated at some point, so I suspect that there's a more recent version
floating about somwhere in the inter-ether 8=}
If not, we'll have to have an update party...
James
From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:29
pm
Subject: OT: Syngery
Speaking of Larry Fast, has Synergy done anything new recently?
Most recent album I know of is 'Metropolitan Suite' which is quite nice.
I also have:
Audion (Electronic Compositions for the Post-Modern Age)
Electronic Realizations for Rock Orchestra
Computer Experiments, volume 1
Games
Sequencer
Cords
Semiconductor (2 LP collection)
'The Jupiter Menace' soundtrack
James
> -----Original Message-----
> I like to mention Larry Fast, Yes and even a
> few others who
> manage a bit of the electronics. Just this isn't the venue for it.
>
> dale
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From:
ampmusic
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:39
pm
Subject: Re; Sequencers
> Message: 12
> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 17:44:19 EST
> From: mrmorton@a...
> Subject: Re: Re: sequencers
>
> I'm not vouching for the accuracy of the statement but I recall an
> interview
> with Townsend where he said he had an arp 2500 at the time (the big
> arp
> modular model) and that Terry Riley, the composer, helped him with the
>
> sequence--hence the title.
> Won't Get Fooled Again, OTOH, was supposed to be as one poster
> described, an
> organ with a VCS.
>
>
There's a widely available DVD about the making of 'Who's Next' showing
'Won't Get Fooled Again' done with a Hammond organ sound chopped up by
the filter and envelope of an EMS vcs3 synth, whereas 'Baba O'Reilly'
was done with an ARP 2500 synth played by an ARP sequencer.
Terry Riley had no involvement with the piece, but it was very much
inspired by his composition 'A Rainbow In Curved Air' dating from around
1968. Ironically this didn't use any sequencers, but multitracked (and
often speeded up) hand-played electric organs and other electric
keyboards. As a result of its complexity, Riley never performed it live.
The world premiere performance is in London on June 28th this year in a
vastly extended two-hour version featuring church organ, 1960's and
contemporary MIDI keyboards. Some information, along with details of
other shows featuring White Noise, Geoff Downes (Yes/Asia/Buggles),
Harald Grosskopf (Ash Ra Tempel) and others is at
http://www.ampmusic.demon.co.uk/ampconcerts.html
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From:
Liondream@a...
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:46
pm
Subject: Re: baba o'reilly
I was always under the impression that it was the 2600 and I believe the sound
took advantage of the s/h circuit to control the vco or something along those
lines. This impression comes from having done something similar in em class
eons ago.
w
<<
Subject: Re: Re: sequencers
According to the liner notes of the remastered Who's Next, Baba O'Riley and
Won't Get Fooled Again were borne from ARP synth demos that Townshend
recorded. I imagine it's the 2600 since he had one (according to Mark
Vail's book).
Regards,
Dave B.>>>
From:
'michael_berling'
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 9:08
pm
Subject: Re: Mota Atma tracklist and other details
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'John Vertical'
wrote:
> >Has anyone noticed that the Voice Print site track listing for MOTA
> >ATMA does NOT include GATE OF SATURN??
> >
> >Is it on there or what Martin K??
>
>
> For some reason, Voices in the Net suggests that Gate of Saturn is
from some
> another upcoming album...
>
> John Vertical
>
And the reason is... a silly typo! Sorry folks, I have no other info
than that Gate of Saturn is taken from the forthcoming Mota Atma.
Regards
Michael
From:
David Butler
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 9:14
pm
Subject: OT-Neil Peart
Chris Richards writes:
'Nowadays, not only can you make an incompetent
keyboardist sound good, you can also make a lousy
drummer sound like Neil Peart simply by cutting
and pasting his drum parts inside a computer'.
Comments like these are fodder for a flame war. Are
you a drummer? Have you ever seen Rush live? Did you
know that he is also the chief lyricist. I defend your
right to your own opinion, but to say that Neil Peart
is a lousy drummer...aww shit...I just reread your
post...sorry, my bad....David
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From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 9:24
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] OT-Neil Peart
'sokay Dave. I mis-read it the same way the first time round too.
I was about to question Chris' sanity as well...
However, I really doubt that a simple cut-n-paster could really ever sound
quite as creative as Neil. You'd have to do some really creative
cut-n-pasting, which is a different sort of talent, but talent nonetheless.
> -----Original Message-----
> I just reread your
> post...sorry, my bad....David
From:
Gustavo Jobim
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 9:39
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Syngery
>I also have:
>Audion (Electronic Compositions for the Post-Modern Age)
>Electronic Realizations for Rock Orchestra(...)
>James
Ah.. I have only Audion, unfortunately; Synergy is hard to find here,
specially for the last 12 months, with dollar going insanely up and up.
but it's great music indeed. a great 'bladerunner-like' mood.
------
Gustavo Jobim
http://www.gustavojobim.hpg.com.br
gustavojobim@s...
From:
'Whiteley, Steve'
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 9:47
pm
Subject: RE:TT3
Hey Dreamers,
I live in the USA and would like to get a copy of the TT3 SHN CD's. For some
reason my attempt to be a permanent member from TT1/TT2 and to rejoin (by
request and DB editing) the tree have failed. I have seen email that seem to
indicate others are having the same problem.
Is there a problem with the master DB, are our entries being overwritten?
Thanks,
Steve
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Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 10:04
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] RE:TT3
we'll mop up the dbs; in the meantime, I'll contact you offlist.
Joe
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Whiteley, Steve [mailto:steve.whiteley@s...]
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 4:47 PM
> To: 'tadream@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: [tadream] RE:TT3
>
>
> Hey Dreamers,
>
> I live in the USA and would like to get a copy of the TT3 SHN
> CD's. For some
> reason my attempt to be a permanent member from TT1/TT2 and to rejoin (by
> request and DB editing) the tree have failed. I have seen email
> that seem to
> indicate others are having the same problem.
>
> Is there a problem with the master DB, are our entries being overwritten?
>
> Thanks,
> Steve
>
>
From:
'Dave Brewer'
Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 2:01
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re; Sequencers
>There's a widely available DVD about the making of 'Who's Next' showing
>'Won't Get Fooled Again' done with a Hammond organ sound chopped up by
>the filter and envelope of an EMS vcs3 synth, whereas 'Baba O'Reilly'
>was done with an ARP 2500 synth played by an ARP sequencer.
>
Okay, so that's how it was done! Now for a little on-topic question. Is it
just me, or did TD use a sound similar to the one on Won't Get Fooled Again
in Tangram Part 1 (about 3 1/2 minutes from the end)? When those choppy
chords come in, it makes me think of The Who. :-)
Dave
From:
'kayleighsdaddy'
Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 3:15
am
Subject: A question about the Archive downloads
Hey all, just a quick question for anyone that can help out. I have volumes
1-16, but have been told there are various FTP sites, direct connect hubs, etc,
that are available for TD downloads? If anyone could help me out, I'd greatly
appreciate it. IF they are private entrance only, I'd be glad to share/trade
goodies in exchange for access. Thanks. Please mail me off the list.
dan
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From:
'Glynn Naughton'
Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 7:54
am
Subject: Re; Sequencers
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, ampmusic wrote:
> > Message: 12
> > Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 17:44:19 EST
> > From: mrmorton@a...
> > Subject: Re: Re: sequencers
> >
> > I'm not vouching for the accuracy of the statement but I recall
an
> > interview
> > with Townsend where he said he had an arp 2500 at the time (the
big
> > arp
> > modular model) and that Terry Riley, the composer, helped him
with the
> >
> > sequence--hence the title.
> > Won't Get Fooled Again, OTOH, was supposed to be as one poster
> > described, an
> > organ with a VCS.
And don't forgot that TD blantantly copied this sound for the end
of 'Tangram Part One'. It fits really well, though.
> There's a widely available DVD about the making of 'Who's Next'
showing
> 'Won't Get Fooled Again' done with a Hammond organ sound chopped up
by
> the filter and envelope of an EMS vcs3 synth, whereas 'Baba
O'Reilly'
> was done with an ARP 2500 synth played by an ARP sequencer.
I've never understood why so many people place such importance on
claiming that 'we were the first to use a sequencer on record'. After
all, the *idea* of sequences existed long before sequencers. Whether
the sequence is played by hand or by machine is a trivial detail,
surely.
Glynn
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From:
'Greg'
Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 9:49
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re; Sequencers
The first one to use the sequencer? Obviously the inventor of the sequencer
(I wonder who is credited for that..) ! I find it silly to wonder who is the
first to use any particular instrument in electronic music. The real genius
is in the designing of the instruments and the conception of certain
features that musicians would find useful. Tangerine Dream was one of the
first groups to exploit the possibilities of electronic instruments. They
created a highly progressive and uplifting experience that as far as we
know, no human has ever experienced before.
I think it is interesting to note that the Tangerine Tree serves an
extremely important purpose of documenting part of the infancy of electronic
based music.. and something that possibly hundreds of years from now will be
studied and explored with as much excitement as we have for it now.
Greg H.
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From:
Dan Downey
Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 1:34
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Waiting For Cousteau
Thought I'd throw in a few cents on this. I thought
Fractal wasn't random but based on chaos theory and
actually demonstrates there is order and pattern in
chaos.
As for random music generators I used one in the early
80s on an Amiga with software called Cantus written by
Philip Glass cohort Michael Reisman. It allowed you to
set some parameters and off it would go. I used it
extensively with great results on a friends film
project.
In any case I wouldn't consider any music produced to
really be considered random. Some parameters are
usually involved not to mention the root source of the
sounds themselves. Splitting hairs I suppose, it
wouldn't sound as good if you called it 'probability
music with random generated events' or some other
defining mouthfull
- DD
--- 'Glenn Folkvord (Hyperion Media)'
wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'John Vertical'
>
> > 'Fractal music'. Nice term, did you coin that
> yourself or is it JMJ's own
> > description?
>
> It's JMJs description, but he did not invent it.
> Fractal music is simply
> based on a random generator, in this case for WFC
> being run by an Atari
> computer who randomly (within parameters defined by
> JMJ) selected MIDI data.
> The idea of fractals in art is not a new concept
> however.
>
> Glenn
>
>
>
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From:
'Glenn Folkvord \(Hyperion Media\)'
Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 1:45
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Waiting For Cousteau
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Dan Downey'
> Thought I'd throw in a few cents on this. I thought
> Fractal wasn't random but based on chaos theory and
> actually demonstrates there is order and pattern in
> chaos.
You could say that, but the idea of using fractal software to make music or
other arts is to use a little bit of the randomness within the chaos theory.
People perceive it as more or less random, and that is the point.
> In any case I wouldn't consider any music produced to
> really be considered random. Some parameters are
> usually involved not to mention the root source of the
> sounds themselves. Splitting hairs I suppose, it
> wouldn't sound as good if you called it 'probability
> music with random generated events' or some other
> defining mouthfull
Good point :-)
glenn
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From:
Dan Downey
Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 1:52
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Syngery
Not that I've seen. I saw him a little while back
playing with Tony Levin at the House of Blues and he
was selling that exact list of CDs, nothing new.
I really love the Cords disc and Computer Experiments
(anyone looking for a numbered version of the vinyl
release? You can actually read the source code of the
software on the back of the album sleeve)
-DD
--- 'Owens, James' wrote:
> Speaking of Larry Fast, has Synergy done anything
> new recently?
> Most recent album I know of is 'Metropolitan Suite'
> which is quite nice.
>
> I also have:
> Audion (Electronic Compositions for the Post-Modern
> Age)
> Electronic Realizations for Rock Orchestra
> Computer Experiments, volume 1
> Games
> Sequencer
> Cords
> Semiconductor (2 LP collection)
> 'The Jupiter Menace' soundtrack
>
> James
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > I like to mention Larry Fast, Yes and even a
> > few others who
> > manage a bit of the electronics. Just this isn't
> the venue for it.
> >
> > dale
>
>
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From:
Dan Downey
Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 2:00
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Waiting For Cousteau
--- 'Glenn Folkvord (Hyperion Media)'
wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Dan Downey'
>
>
> > Thought I'd throw in a few cents on this. I
> thought
> > Fractal wasn't random but based on chaos theory
> and
> > actually demonstrates there is order and pattern
> in
> > chaos.
>
> You could say that, but the idea of using fractal
> software to make music or
> other arts is to use a little bit of the randomness
> within the chaos theory.
> People perceive it as more or less random, and that
> is the point.
I've played quite a bit with fractal art programs and
generative music programs. There are a few programs
out there that will take an image and, based on
parameter settings, compose music based on the image.
It might be a fun project to feed in some TD cover art
with sampled TD sounds and see what a few million
micro-chimps could generate.
>
> > In any case I wouldn't consider any music produced
> to
> > really be considered random. Some parameters are
> > usually involved not to mention the root source of
> the
> > sounds themselves. Splitting hairs I suppose, it
> > wouldn't sound as good if you called it
> 'probability
> > music with random generated events' or some other
> > defining mouthfull
>
> Good point :-)
Actually Generative music is a pretty good catch all
for this. I'm pretty sure that's what Koan descibes
itself as rather than random.
>
> glenn
>
>
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From:
'Joe Shoults'
Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 2:53
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Re; Sequencers
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't a player piano be the first digital
musical instrument?
Mellotron sounds come from tape loops, right? But when you slow down the
tape, the pitch changes - analog. Slow down a player piano paper loop and
the pitch doesn't change; it's really like reading an old computer punch
card - digital. I don't know how much player piano music is sequenced,
though.
Les Paul experimented with these paper digital loops in the 1920s; it was
his inspiration for inventing multitrack tape recording. No one had yet
gone back and added notes to a player piano loop; he did and then some. I
guess this would be the first instance of multitrack digital recording.
He also used what I guess is sequencing on his guitar with the digital delay
(which he also invented, I think). I remember seeing some old footage of
him demonstrating this - he played a few little guitar licks that repeated
until he changed them, and played a melody on top of it. He accompanied
himself on guitar.
Joe
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg [mailto:designx@c...]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 4:50 AM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [tadream] Re; Sequencers
>
>
> The first one to use the sequencer? Obviously the inventor of the
> sequencer
> (I wonder who is credited for that..) ! I find it silly to wonder
> who is the
> first to use any particular instrument in electronic music. The
> real genius
> is in the designing of the instruments and the conception of certain
> features that musicians would find useful. Tangerine Dream was one of the
> first groups to exploit the possibilities of electronic instruments. They
> created a highly progressive and uplifting experience that as far as we
> know, no human has ever experienced before.
>
> I think it is interesting to note that the Tangerine Tree serves an
> extremely important purpose of documenting part of the infancy of
> electronic
> based music.. and something that possibly hundreds of years from
> now will be
> studied and explored with as much excitement as we have for it now.
>
> Greg H.
>
>
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From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 4:24
pm
Subject: First Digital (was: Sequencers)
Actually before the player piano came the music box.
And before that, the windchimes! (how's that for 'random music'!)
James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Shoults [mailto:joe@t...]
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't a player piano be the
> first digital
> musical instrument?
From:
'Mat Mckenzie'
Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 10:39
am
Subject: RE: [tadream] Re: Anti-synthesizer?!?!?!?!
Can't resist this thread !!..............
Living in the UK I must admit that a lot of people's view of the taste of your
average US music listener is rock rock & more rock & some country..... this
could be unfair I don't know, but it is many people's view just look at the
contents of the US chart most of the time.
'My' personal view of the average UK music listener nowadays seems to be -
manufactured conveyor belt - synchronized dancing talentless boy & girl bands,
garage & hip hop but hey that could be wrong too - our charts are dire these
days - or is it just I'm getting old!
Needless to say that 'there is' superb creative melodic music worldwide you
just have to sift through the rubbish to find it - everyones tastes are
different and as long as you personally like it who cares.
On the point of 'press button' instant music etc I have to disagree!! and I am
surprised at your view assuming you are a TD / EM fan.
I have been making electronic music with assorted (mainly 2nd hand) gear for a
good 10 years now and have enjoyed every minute of it. I'm not musically
trained, play it all by ear & have had to work out how to use all the gear &
software myself using the awful manuals that come with them!
So far I only inflict the results on family & friends but It's something I do
because I enjoy it not really to become rich & famous.
Although 'there are' instant music packages out there (E-Jay etc) they don't
get you very far if you actually want to be creative. The sad thing is that the
record buying public seem to lap up the results as it always conforms to the
current trends. I think what you really have a problem with is that talentless
people get music written for them to sing along too & become rich out of it - I
couldnt agree more.
However, try using a 'serious' music package (Cubase & the like) combined with
analog, digital gear - midi, vst instruments etc etc and you'll soon find it is
a long way off from being instant. It has taken me years to move from the old
recording techniques of 4 track portastudio etc to now recording direct to PC
Mat
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Richards [mailto:kohntarkosz@y...]
Sent: 24 March 2003 05:28
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] Re: Anti-synthesizer?!?!?!?!
<>
I didn't realize America was 'anti-synthesizer',
considering how popular techno music is here. If
there is an 'anti-synth' or 'anti-technology'
movement, it probably has more to do with
untalented people being able to make records
thanks to the advances of the last 25 years. This
goes back to the early 80's, when a lot of pop
and new wave records were being spewed out by
people who couldn't play anything but block
chords (though you'd never know it, thanks to the
built in arpeggiators that were popular during
that era).
Nowadays, not only can you make an incompetent
keyboardist sound good, you can also make a lousy
drummer sound like Neil Peart simply by cutting
and pasting his drum parts inside a computer. You
can also make a tone deaf singer sound like
he/she at least can sing on key. Your band just
barely cuts it as a garage band? No problem! With
the help of Pro Tools, you'll sound tighter than
James Brown's back up band.
It is a shame that MTV, VH-1, and US radio have
gone the way they have, though, forcing all the
good stuff underground. Oh well.
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From:
Mondarino
Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 2:52
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Waiting For Cousteau
>I've played quite a bit with fractal art programs and
>generative music programs. There are a few programs
>out there that will take an image and, based on
>parameter settings, compose music based on the image.
>It might be a fun project to feed in some TD cover art
>with sampled TD sounds and see what a few million
>micro-chimps could generate.
Should you throw, say, ToB original cover, Soundmill Navigator, or 220
Volt new cover, you would end with 'fractal^2 music', since the graphics
already are fractals.
Regards.
Edu
From:
'musonaut'
Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 4:08
pm
Subject: Epsilon in Malaysian Pale - CD ...
Hi,
I have for sale these two items from Tangerine Dream.
Tangerine Dream 'The Collection' The Collectors Series
Side 1: Genesis 6:00
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From:
'omegatransfinito'
Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 7:51
pm
Subject: Re: Re; Sequencers
> > > Won't Get Fooled Again, OTOH, was supposed to be as
one poster
> > > described, an
> > > organ with a VCS.
>
> And don't forgot that TD blantantly copied this sound for the end
> of 'Tangram Part One'. It fits really well, though.
Does anyone else think that the end of Coldwater Canyon is
similar, slower though?
John Vertical
From:
Liondream@a...
Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 8:42
pm
Subject: Re: synergy
Latest I heard, I think Synergy released an album that was like Semiconductor
(the double retrospective album) only with newly re-recorded tracks.
He's also slowly converting his studio to softsynths.
...and was touring with Tony Levine's band as well as with a Nektar reunion
tour (about a year ago).
<<
Subject: OT: Syngery
Speaking of Larry Fast, has Synergy done anything new recently?
Most recent album I know of is 'Metropolitan Suite' which is quite nice.>>>
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From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 8:43
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Anti-synthesizer?!?!?!?!
In my experience people don't have a problem with synthesizers, as long as
the music style conforms to something they're familiar with. I have never
met anyone who didn't like Rush's 'Tom Sawyer' or Styx's 'Come Sail Away'
because of the synthesizer parts. I just that most poeple in the US were
'raised on radio', so if it doesn't have lyrics, it's automatically boring.
I'll cite an example from my own experiences:
When I was in my last semester of college, we were having a study session in
the senior computer lab. There were 8 to 10 people there, and I had brought
my portable tape player 'boom box' to listen to. I prefer to study to
instrumental music because lyrics tend to grab my thoughts. I had
_Underwater Sunlight_ with me, so I popped it in.
My classmates were fairly polite at first, but by the time 'Song of the
Whale pt. 2' (one of my all time most favorite TD tracks!) ended, people
were basically saying 'what is this crap?' and 'can't we listen to something
else'.
So one of the other guys offers up Enigma's _MCMXC AD_. After a few tracks
the general consensus was 'this is really good stuff'. Now don't get me
wrong; I like Enigma a lot, but I think _Underwater Sunlight_ is better
music than _MCMXC AD_.
But Enigma songs generally conform to a more 'pop' format: short tracks with
repeating melody lines, good beats, and (usually) lyrics. (Enigma fans:
don't flame me on this. Michael Cretu does some amazing things with this
format.)
I think the average person just doesn't venture far musically from what they
know.
Funny thing is that these guys were all about to graduate from college in
Aerospace Engineering. I would have thought they would be a little more
open to new things...
James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mat Mckenzie [mailto:mmckenzie@o...]
> Living in the UK I must admit that a lot of people's view of
> the taste of your average US music listener is rock rock &
> more rock & some country..... this could be unfair I don't
> know, but it is many people's view just look at the contents
> of the US chart most of the time.
From:
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Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 8:59
pm
Subject: London Concert, this Saturday the 29th
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From:
'Matthew Stringer'
Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 9:26
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] OT: Waiting For Cousteau
AFAIK Fractal Music was invented by Brian Eno.
He wrote some software shortly after WFC called Koan Pro which enabled
you to 'write' your own. This was available for PC and Mac however Jarre
used a Atari Mega ST but I've no idea what software was used.
Matthew
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn Folkvord (Hyperion Media) [mailto:glenn@f...]
Sent: 22 March 2003 23:28
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Waiting For Cousteau
----- Original Message -----
From: 'John Vertical'
> 'Fractal music'. Nice term, did you coin that yourself or is it JMJ's
own
> description?
It's JMJs description, but he did not invent it. Fractal music is simply
based on a random generator, in this case for WFC being run by an Atari
computer who randomly (within parameters defined by JMJ) selected MIDI
data.
The idea of fractals in art is not a new concept however.
Glenn
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From:
'Glenn Folkvord \(Hyperion Media\)'
Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 9:36
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Waiting For Cousteau
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Matthew Stringer'
> AFAIK Fractal Music was invented by Brian Eno.
I dont think so. He may have coined the term, as he did with 'ambient', but
he did not invent the music itself.
Glenn
From:
'Colin Jouxson'
Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 9:47
pm
Subject: Re: Re; Sequencers
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Glynn Naughton'
wrote:
> --- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, ampmusic wrote:
> > > Message: 12
> > > Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 17:44:19 EST
> > > From: mrmorton@a...
> > > Subject: Re: Re: sequencers
> > >
> > > I'm not vouching for the accuracy of the statement but I
recall
> an
> > > interview
> > > with Townsend where he said he had an arp 2500 at the time (the
> big
> > > arp
> > > modular model) and that Terry Riley, the composer, helped him
> with the
> > >
> > > sequence--hence the title.
> > > Won't Get Fooled Again, OTOH, was supposed to be as one poster
> > > described, an
> > > organ with a VCS.
>
> And don't forgot that TD blantantly copied this sound for the end
> of 'Tangram Part One'. It fits really well, though.
>
> > There's a widely available DVD about the making of 'Who's Next'
> showing
> > 'Won't Get Fooled Again' done with a Hammond organ sound chopped
up
> by
> > the filter and envelope of an EMS vcs3 synth, whereas 'Baba
> O'Reilly'
> > was done with an ARP 2500 synth played by an ARP sequencer.
>
> I've never understood why so many people place such importance on
> claiming that 'we were the first to use a sequencer on record'.
After
> all, the *idea* of sequences existed long before sequencers.
Whether
> the sequence is played by hand or by machine is a trivial detail,
> surely.
>
> Glynn
Frankes Sequencing,totaly Magnificent,have you heard anything like it?
Diamond Diary.Long Live CF
From:
'tei waz'
Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 11:12
pm
Subject: ot synergy/tony levin
Subject: OT: Syngery
>Speaking of Larry Fast, has Synergy done anything new recently?
>Most recent album I know of is 'Metropolitan Suite' which is quite nice.
someone mentioned the tony levin connection--I'll add that an old synergy
track--phobos--albeit updated and live can be found on the live tony levin
band disc 'double espresso' along with larry on more-or-less the rest of the
release....:
http://tonylevin.com/dblesp.htm
Cheers!
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From:
Steven Feldman
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 1:08
am
Subject: Re Won't Get Fooled Again synth sound
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 19:51:14 -0000 'omegatransfinito'
writes:
>>>>Won't Get Fooled Again, OTOH, was supposed to be as
>>>>one poster described, an organ with a VCS.
>>
>>And don't forgot that TD blantantly copied this sound for the end
>>of 'Tangram Part One'. It fits really well, though.
>
>Does anyone else think that the end of Coldwater Canyon is
>similar, slower though?
I do.
Okay, so that's a sorta lame posting, but at least it's on
topic, fer crissakes! :( ;)
> John Vertical
Steven Feldman
From:
'fozziebear'
Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 10:51
pm
Subject: Cyclone Day
Today Cyclone will be on my computer CD drive. First saw TD 25 years ago today
David
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From:
'craigashipley'
Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 10:13
pm
Subject: Re: synergy
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Liondream@a... wrote:
> Latest I heard, I think Synergy released an album that was like
Semiconductor (the double retrospective album) only with newly re-
recorded tracks.
>
> He's also slowly converting his studio to softsynths.
>
> ...and was touring with Tony Levine's band as well as with a
Nektar reunion tour (about a year ago).
>
The album to which you are referring is 2002's 'Reconstructed
Artifacts' which are classic Synergy tunes done on modern equipment.
Track listing is: Relay Breakdown/Warriors/S-Scape/Orbit
5/Ancestors/Flight Of The Looking Glass/(Metro Suite Abridged)North
River-Steam And Steel Towers-Metropolitan Theme (Main Theme)/Into
The Abyss. Must admit that I prefer the originals.
He also contributed the track 'Moon Caves' to the 'Music For The
Third Millenium' on AMP Records (nice compilation of electronic
music).
Regards,
Craig Shipley
From:
'Mat Mckenzie'
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 8:54
am
Subject: Air Sculpture live at the National Space Centre
Speaking of concerts...........
Anyone thinking of going to see 'Air Sculpture' live at the National Space
Centre, Leicester, UK April 5th ?
I only have one CD of their's Quark Soup but should be pretty good if you like
vintage sequencer based TD ish stuff and it's a great venue
Mat
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From:
tony.vandergaag@p...
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 8:55
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Digest Number 1744
Hi all ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 19:34:57 +0100
> From: 'Marcel Engels'
> Subject: RE: OT Tomita
>
> I don't believe they are in 5.1, but only in
> Dolby Surround.
if these are the discs which are only 'dolby surround' believe they are the
same which were already released in the early 90's. so maybe the label just
re-released them for some 'easy money' with this dolby 5.1 hype going
on at this time
>
> Speaking of Larry Fast, has Synergy done anything new recently?
> Most recent album I know of is 'Metropolitan Suite' which is quite nice.
>
> I also have:
> Audion (Electronic Compositions for the Post-Modern Age)
> Electronic Realizations for Rock Orchestra
> Computer Experiments, volume 1
> Games
> Sequencer
> Cords
> Semiconductor (2 LP collection)
> 'The Jupiter Menace' soundtrack
>
> James
his latest release is from last year and is called 'reconstructed artifacts'
this disc was released on the day of last years alpha-centauri festival in
the netherlands. synergy was the headliner and while putting his show together
for the festival he came with the idea for this cd. most of the stuff is re-
arranged and re-recorded 'synergy classics'. most of his music is now done with
an apple computer music systems and most of the tracks are sounding fresh and
modern now but the 'old fealing' is still left intact. i bought my copy directly
after the show from larry fast in person and i had the disc and booklet signed,
he was speaking of a 'ltd-edition' back then so i don't know if this disc is
still available. think best is to check his website, there are also some pretty
good recordings around from his performance at the alpha-centauri festival so
if you can get hold af that one you won't need to go for the 'studio-version'
;-)
tony/rotterdam
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From:
'Mat Mckenzie'
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 9:01
am
Subject: RE: [tadream] OT: Syngery
Just found this link for Synergy which people might find useful:
http://www.eclipse.net/~synergy/
I'd have to agree that METROPOLITAN SUITE is quite good, and I have a rare 12'
by synergy which I think was quite good but most of the other LPs sounded very
dated to me - even when I heard them years ago, 'sounded' more like organ /
keyboard style sounds not synths (even though they may be!)
-----Original Message-----
From: Owens, James [mailto:james.owens@m...]
Sent: 24 March 2003 20:29
To: 'tadream@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [tadream] OT: Syngery
Speaking of Larry Fast, has Synergy done anything new recently?
Most recent album I know of is 'Metropolitan Suite' which is quite nice.
I also have:
Audion (Electronic Compositions for the Post-Modern Age)
Electronic Realizations for Rock Orchestra
Computer Experiments, volume 1
Games
Sequencer
Cords
Semiconductor (2 LP collection)
'The Jupiter Menace' soundtrack
James
> -----Original Message-----
> I like to mention Larry Fast, Yes and even a
> few others who
> manage a bit of the electronics. Just this isn't the venue for it.
>
> dale
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From:
Klaus Beschorner
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 9:11
am
Subject: FAQ
> I just sent Steve a message. If he has a more recent copy than Klaus has
> archived on his site (1999), then I'll see if I can get him to host it
> again, or at least get a copy...
Unless he updated his site just before he switched it off, I've never
seen any newer version from Steve. I have the html version of the FAQ
revision that's on my site, and would have no problems whatsoever to host
it from now on, but it will need a thorough update, otherwise it'll
just be a historic curiosity ;-)
> If not, we'll have to have an update party...
All for it! On a related subject, James, are there any later versions of
your 'tracklists' than those on my site? If so, I'd appreciate a copy
and can host it, if you wish.
best regards,
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From:
'Bill Fox'
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 1:14
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Digest Number 1744
----- Original Message -----
From:
Subject: [tadream] Digest Number 1744
> ________________________________________________________________________
> Message: 4
> From: 'Owens, James'
> Subject: OT: Syngery
>
> Speaking of Larry Fast, has Synergy done anything new recently?
Yes. At the Alfa Centauri festival in March, 2002, Larry released a new
CD called 'Reconstructed Artifacts' which is a totally new performance on
modern gear of some of his classic Synergy music through the years. I
interviewed him about that back stage before his performance and aired it
on EMUSIC upon my return from Europe. My on-line playlist archive ought
to reflect some spins of that CD at about that time (March, April 2002).
Larry's site is http://www.eclipse.net/~synergy and has all the info you
need. The new CD's complete story is at
http://www.eclipse.net/~synergy/recon_artif.htm
Cheers,
Bill
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From:
'Bill Fox'
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 1:36
pm
Subject: Re; Sequencers
----- Original Message -----
From:
Subject: [tadream] Digest Number 1744
> ________________________________________________________________________
> Message: 21
> From: 'Joe Shoults'
> Subject: RE: Re; Sequencers
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't a player piano be the first
digital
> musical instrument?
Music boxes predate player pianos by a long shot.
> Mellotron sounds come from tape loops, right? But when you slow down
the
> tape, the pitch changes - analog. Slow down a player piano paper loop
and
> the pitch doesn't change; it's really like reading an old computer punch
> card - digital. I don't know how much player piano music is sequenced,
> though.
Unfortunately, your example is flawed. Is a piano analog or digital? Its
means of control does *not* alter the answer. Paper roll or fingers,
there are still only 88 choices of which notes to play. Punch cards also
do not define the computers they control. Puch cards also controlled
analog computers, too! Yes, before there were digital computers, there
were analog computers! Perhaps being an electronics engineer is why I
know such trivia...
Cheers,
Bill
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From:
Armin Theissen
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 2:01
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re; Sequencers
Bill Fox wrote:
> Unfortunately, your example is flawed. Is a piano analog or digital?
erm... you usually play it with your *digits*... ;-)
armin
Its
> means of control does *not* alter the answer. Paper roll or fingers,
> there are still only 88 choices of which notes to play. Punch cards also
> do not define the computers they control. Puch cards also controlled
> analog computers, too! Yes, before there were digital computers, there
> were analog computers! Perhaps being an electronics engineer is why I
> know such trivia...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bill
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From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 3:26
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] ot synergy/tony levin
Thanks for the link.
I just listened to the Phobos sample clip, and it sounds pretty cool! It
definitely benefits from the bass and drums. I may have to snag this album.
np- the rest of the samples
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tei waz [mailto:teiwazbarana@h...]
>
> someone mentioned the tony levin connection--I'll add that an
> old synergy
> track--phobos--albeit updated and live can be found on the
> live tony levin
> band disc 'double espresso' along with larry on more-or-less
> the rest of the
> release....:
>
> http://tonylevin.com/dblesp.htm
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From:
Wade Gordon
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 3:29
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] ot synergy/tony levin
Really? You think that is good?
--- 'Owens, James' wrote:
> Thanks for the link.
>
> I just listened to the Phobos sample clip, and it
> sounds pretty cool! It
> definitely benefits from the bass and drums. I may
> have to snag this album.
>
> np- the rest of the samples
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: tei waz [mailto:teiwazbarana@h...]
> >
> > someone mentioned the tony levin connection--I'll
> add that an
> > old synergy
> > track--phobos--albeit updated and live can be
> found on the
> > live tony levin
> > band disc 'double espresso' along with larry on
> more-or-less
> > the rest of the
> > release....:
> >
> > http://tonylevin.com/dblesp.htm
>
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From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 3:33
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] ot synergy/tony levin
I can listen to the original Phobos anytime if I want to hear it. This
sounds like an interesting 'jazzed-up' version. I'd have to hear the whole
to know how much play time the disc would actually get, but the sample gives
me hope...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wade Gordon [mailto:mindvoyager1@y...]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 9:29 AM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [tadream] ot synergy/tony levin
>
>
> Really? You think that is good?
From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 4:56
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] FAQ
I haven't updated the either tracklisting in a while. I believe you have
latest inteact versions of both. I had a catastrophic failure of my working
file of the boot tracklist, and I just haven't updated the official list in
a long time. I'll try to make time to do a little of both.
Of course with Tangerine Tree, the boot tracklisting is becoming obsolete,
but maybe I could include a cross-reference to the appropriate TT vol #.
I'll also volunteer to collect updates to the FAQ. We can incorporate them
at some time in the future.
James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Klaus Beschorner [mailto:klaus@c...]
> > If not, we'll have to have an update party...
>
> All for it! On a related subject, James, are there any later
> versions of
> your 'tracklists' than those on my site? If so, I'd appreciate a copy
> and can host it, if you wish.
>
> best regards,
> klaus
From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 5:18
pm
Subject: Tadream FAQ update: help wanted
Hi everyone,
Anyone interested in helping with the update of the TD FAQ?
If so, please review the most recent version at:
http://www.caby.de/olists/tdfaq.txt
Then email any corrections or additions to me at yxalag@c...
Please put TD FAQ in the subject so I know what it's about.
Let's get this FAQ party on the road!
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From:
Jonathan Holt
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 5:39
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Tadream FAQ update: help wanted
It's great that there is so much enthusiasm for a TD
FAQ. I'll review and see if I can think of anynew Q's.
Now Martin K at TDI - would this ever be put to
use?!?!?
--- 'Owens, James' wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> Anyone interested in helping with the update of the
> TD FAQ?
>
> If so, please review the most recent version at:
> http://www.caby.de/olists/tdfaq.txt
>
> Then email any corrections or additions to me at
> yxalag@c...
> Please put TD FAQ in the subject so I know what it's
> about.
>
> Let's get this FAQ party on the road!
>
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From:
TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 5:44
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Tadream FAQ update: help wanted
At 12:39 26.03.03, you wrote:
>It's great that there is so much enthusiasm for a TD
>FAQ. I'll review and see if I can think of anynew Q's.
>
>
>Now Martin K at TDI - would this ever be put to
>use?!?!?
>
>
Hi All,
I will try my best. But you might also take into consideration that the
band might not want to answer all the questions you pose.
But ... let´s see... ;-)
Best regards,
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From:
'Sean Montgomery'
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 6:28
pm
Subject: Astoria single
Some kind individual made the three songs from TDs' Astoria single
available on the Soulseek file sharing network, and to that person, I
say: thanks!
The two tracks from Dream Mixes 4 sound great...the treatments of the
tracks are far more adventurous and creative than what was done on
DM3. Instead of just slapping some new percussion over top of the old
track, these are totally new interpretations. And it sounds like the
band has finally got their hands on some new gear/software, because
there are sounds and voices here that I haven't heard from them
before. It's refreshing. Meta Morph Magic is particularly
great...the passage from 3:37 - 4:30 just rocks...if they could keep
up that kind of intensity for an entire track, they might actually get
it played in clubs. This track was a particularly good choice for a
remix, since the original was so sparse. Here, they've added lots of
lush production, while sampling the best sound effects from the
original (the 'echoey machinery', 'fanfare', and 'evil chuckling').
Gate of Saturn isn't quite so successful for me...the drum part (once
it kicks in) is just one monontonous loop, and gets irritating after a
couple of minutes. I wonder if it was added as an afterthought just
to make the song more 'Dream Mix-like'? The melody isn't bad, but is
also repetitive...on the whole, I think the track would have been a
lot better if it were half as long. But then, I thought the same
thing about a few tracks on Mars Polaris...which is why I made my own
'radio edits'. :-)
Anyway, there's still some life in this TD beast yet. I really look
forward to picking up the new albums now.
From:
'Joe Shoults'
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 6:49
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Re; Sequencers
You're right, I forgot about music boxes - much older than player pianos.
As far as a player piano being 'digital' or not, I'm not sure what would
precisely define 'digital musical instrument,' anyway. I was equating the
holes in the paper loop to the pits that a laser reads on a compact disc,
but I wasn't thinking about what would convert those 'on' or 'off' digital
states into sound.
What about Les Paul's guitar loops - is that considered 'sequencing'?
Joe
> -----Original Message-----
> > Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't a player piano be the first
> digital
> > musical instrument?
>
> Music boxes predate player pianos by a long shot.
>
> > Mellotron sounds come from tape loops, right? But when you slow down
> the
> > tape, the pitch changes - analog. Slow down a player piano paper loop
> and
> > the pitch doesn't change; it's really like reading an old computer punch
> > card - digital. I don't know how much player piano music is sequenced,
> > though.
>
> Unfortunately, your example is flawed. Is a piano analog or digital? Its
> means of control does *not* alter the answer. Paper roll or fingers,
> there are still only 88 choices of which notes to play. Punch cards also
> do not define the computers they control. Puch cards also controlled
> analog computers, too! Yes, before there were digital computers, there
> were analog computers! Perhaps being an electronics engineer is why I
> know such trivia...
>
>
From:
Klaus Beschorner
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 8:11
pm
Subject: FAQ
> I will try my best. But you might also take into consideration that the
> band might not want to answer all the questions you pose.
Martin and all,
my proposal is that what we update here was (and will be) the inofficial TD
FAQ.
You're welcome to use whatever item in it for the Q&A section on the
official TD homepage.
And of course, we'll appreciate your and the band's input on stuff that you
understandably don't want to have answered on your offical homepage. We'll
just quote 'usually well informed sources' ;-)
best regards,
klaus
From:
Rolf Elfström
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 9:02
pm
Subject: Re: Digital Soundtrack Collection
>If it is not already too late, how can I get a copy of this fine looking
>collection?
>I know at some point there was a tree going but I do not know if the tree is
>still active or if anyone out there has a copy and is interested in trading
>please let me know privately.
>
>Thanks
>Marcelo
And as usual I repeat my plea: Would some kind samaritan
put it up on a ftp somewhere... pleeeeeease! (sobbing)
Rolf
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From:
'Chris Owen'
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 9:15
pm
Subject: Pathos?
Was anyone from this list in Pathos (Cyprus) a week or two ago? A mate of mine
(also a TD fan) was there on his honeymoon recently when he bumped into another
TD fan (t-shirts gave them away!) who had been at all the London gigs in recent
years. My mate didn't catch his name, and I was just wondering if it was anyone
from this list?
Thanks!
- Chris
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From:
'Chris Owen'
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 9:21
pm
Subject: TT3 - Attn Vernon
Could my TT3 leaf (Vernon) please contact me offlist please? Thanks.
- Chris
chris@o...
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From:
Mondarino
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 1:31
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] FAQ
>> I just sent Steve a message. If he has a more recent copy than Klaus
has
>> archived on his site (1999), then I'll see if I can get him to host it
>> again, or at least get a copy...
>
>Unless he updated his site just before he switched it off, I've never
>seen any newer version from Steve. I have the html version of the FAQ
>revision that's on my site, and would have no problems whatsoever to
host
>it from now on, but it will need a thorough update, otherwise it'll
>just be a historic curiosity ;-)
I double-checked last night and, unlike I said before, yes, I have it
archived. Only the html version. I forgot to write down the numbers, but
mine is from 2000. Something like 03-04-2000, Version 1.36. I'll post the
exact numbers tomorrow.
Regards.
Edu
From:
'dweller_benthos'
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 5:30
pm
Subject: Re: A question about the Archive downloads
I'd like info on this as well, need to fill some holes in TT2, and
complete the set.
From:
'musonaut'
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 3:47
pm
Subject: Tang. Dream 'Live! Improvised!'
I'm willing to sell the rare 2CD 'Live! Improvised!'
Recorded Live at the Reims Cathedral, Dec. 13, 1974
Label OH-Boy 2-9159
For those interested, send me an email: dsm4music@h...
regards
musonaut
From:
'dweller_benthos'
Date: Thu Mar 27, 2003 4:12
am
Subject: Re: A question about the Archive downloads
OK, maybe this one will work, having a tough time getting a post to
show up. If this shows up in triplicate, please excuse the error.
I have TT3 from a kind soul here who had an FTP set up for it. I'd be
willing to post TT3 to the usenet group alt.binaries.music.shn if you
have usenet access and would be willing to trade volumes 10-16.
We'd have to coordinate so as to not flood the group too much,
contact me off list if you're interested.
From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Thu Mar 27, 2003 7:26
am
Subject: RE: [tadream] Re; Sequencers
>What about Les Paul's guitar loops - is that considered 'sequencing'?
>
>Joe
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't loops and sequencing whole different
things? I mean, a repeating 'thud thud boing' doesn't in my book quite count
as a sequence...
Or are these loops you're discussing something else than just repetition?
John Vertical
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'John Vertical'
Date: Thu Mar 27, 2003 7:42
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Vocabulary (was: FAQ update)
I'd like to bring up the topic of TD vocabulary. Anyone have any idea what
the following titles may mean? (Browsed from VitN)
Arx Allemand
Calymba Caly
Campera De Mon Glyan
Canzone
Cool Shibuya
Culpa Levis
Myopia World
most of the non-English Inferno tracks
---
And here's some which I know already, but consider difficult enough to be
inserted to the vocabulary list:
Chia Maroon
Fauni-Gena
Hopi Mesa Heart
Rim of Schiaparelli
Rolling Down Cahuenga
Samowar Juri
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From:
'nike_italy2002'
Date: Thu Mar 27, 2003 12:28
pm
Subject: MIRACLE MILE ON DVD
Hello
in the Amazon.com homepage you can find the preorder page of the
Miracle Mile DVD
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-
/B00008R9KL/qid=1048767539/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/102-9356305-5113718?
v=glance&s=dvd#product-details
Regards
Nicola Cont
From:
Date: Thu Mar 27, 2003 2:53
pm
Subject: [tadream]
Could anybody please be so kind and repost the link to the article about the
'frippertronic / wheelchair affair' ??
Best regards
Jörg
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From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Thu Mar 27, 2003 4:25
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Vocabulary (was: FAQ update)
Well I'm no linguist, but I'll do some guessing based on a couple of
computer translations...
(anybody that knows better, please feel free to correct me!)
> -----Original Message-----
> Arx Allemand
Arx is latin for 'citadel' or 'peak'.
Allemand is the French word for 'German'
Since this is from 'The Keep' I'm sure it's something like 'German Citadel',
referring to the German Army setting up in the Keep.
> Calymba Caly
No idea. It's not Latin, French, Italian, German, or Portuguese.
In Russian 'Caly' returns 'they are roan', but this may just be a
coincidence.
Calamba is a city in the Phillipines. I don't know if that is related.
> Campera De Mon Glyan
French: Campera is a verb meaning 'will camp'. 'de mon' = 'of my'. Glyan
does not translate, its probably a place name. So my best guess is
something like 'Camping at Glyan'.
> Canzone
A musical term.
In sixteenth century Italy, a 'canzone' was an instrumental song (or chant).
Light, fast-moving, strongly rhythmic, fairly simple counterpoint texture.
Developed into a piece for larger ensembles in varying tempos and sections.
> Cool Shibuya
Shibuya is a region of Tokyo. It appears to be a heavily commercial area
that is the source of a lot of Japanese 'pop culture', including video games
and music (The Pizzicato Five, for instance).
> Culpa Levis
Latin: Culpa = fault; Levis = slight, petty, or fickle
In legal language, 'Culpa Levis' is 'Ordinary Negligence' a situation where
a person failed to do something or prevent something from happening not
through direct intention, but through simple neglect. The person is only
'slighly at fault'.
> Myopia World
Myopia = near-sightendness
Presumably a 'myopia world' would be 'only what you know personally', or
perhaps a lack of global thinking.
> most of the non-English Inferno tracks
I'm sure these are all references to Dante's 'Divine Comedy'. I've never
read it myself, so I can't say for certain.
> ---
>
> And here's some which I know already, but consider difficult
> enough to be
> inserted to the vocabulary list:
>
> Chia Maroon
> Fauni-Gena
> Hopi Mesa Heart
> Rim of Schiaparelli
> Rolling Down Cahuenga
> Samowar Juri
From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Thu Mar 27, 2003 5:59
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Vocabulary (was: FAQ update)
> > Calymba Caly
>
>No idea. It's not Latin, French, Italian, German, or Portuguese.
>In Russian 'Caly' returns 'they are roan', but this may just be a
>coincidence.
>Calamba is a city in the Phillipines. I don't know if that is related.
I know (and forgot to mention) that a calymba is some sort of African
instrument, but 'caly'? This is the one that has been bugging me the most,
and for quite some time now. Perhaps it's a mispelling of 'clay'?
John Vertical
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From:
Dan Downey
Date: Thu Mar 27, 2003 6:34
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Vocabulary (was: FAQ update)
--- John Vertical wrote:
> > > Calymba Caly
> >
> >No idea. It's not Latin, French, Italian, German,
> or Portuguese.
> >In Russian 'Caly' returns 'they are roan', but this
> may just be a
> >coincidence.
> >Calamba is a city in the Phillipines. I don't know
> if that is related.
>
>
> I know (and forgot to mention) that a calymba is
> some sort of African
> instrument,
That instrument is also known as a thumb piano - a
gourd or hollow wooden box with various length metal
tines. You hold it wedged in your palms and kind of
flick the tines with your thumbs. I could easily
imagine a sequenced piece reminscent of the sound.
> but 'caly'? This is the one that has
> been bugging me the most,
> and for quite some time now. Perhaps it's a
> mispelling of 'clay'?
>
> John Vertical
>
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From:
Chris Richards
Date: Thu Mar 27, 2003 8:36
pm
Subject: Re: sequencing vs loops
<>
Wait a second, I thought a sequencer did create a
repeating 'thud thud boing' when applied to
oscillators (in a modular synth, a sequencer can
be applied to any parameter). How would a tape
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From:
'Joe Shoults'
Date: Thu Mar 27, 2003 9:08
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Re; Sequencers
I just looked up what dictionary.com says:
se.quence n. A melodic or harmonic pattern successively repeated at
different pitches with or without a key change.
or
4. (Mus.) (a) Any succession of chords (or harmonic phrase) rising or
falling by the regular diatonic degrees in the same scale; a succession of
similar harmonic steps. (b) A melodic phrase or passage successively
repeated one tone higher; a rosalia.
...not that that means anything to me.
It was a long time ago - maybe 25 years - since I saw this PBS special with
Les Paul demonstrating this looping technique. I can't remember now if he
changed the pitch of the loop with a knob or switch, or just played a new
loop over the old one. Maybe the difference between a sequence and this
looping is that a sequence evolves gradually instead of being completely
overwritten? What makes a sequence a sequence in electronic music?
Joe
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Vertical [mailto:johnvertical@h...]
> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 2:27 AM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [tadream] Re; Sequencers
>
>
> >What about Les Paul's guitar loops - is that considered 'sequencing'?
> >
> >Joe
>
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't loops and sequencing whole different
> things? I mean, a repeating 'thud thud boing' doesn't in my book
> quite count
> as a sequence...
>
> Or are these loops you're discussing something else than just repetition?
>
> John Vertical
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From:
'Robert Asmus'
Date: Thu Mar 27, 2003 10:13
pm
Subject: OT: Tribute CD to the Columbia Crew
I just wanted to let everybody know that I have sent the 8 cd's to my
friend at Johnson Space Center in Huston. He will send a copy to each
family. To the guys that put it together, you did a most excellent job
on it.
Robert Asmus
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From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Thu Mar 27, 2003 10:28
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] OT: Tribute CD to the Columbia Crew
Robert,
Thanks for making it possible to get it to them!
James
> -----Original Message-----
> I just wanted to let everybody know that I have sent the 8
> cd's to my
> friend at Johnson Space Center in Huston. He will send a copy to each
> family. To the guys that put it together, you did a most
> excellent job
> on it.
From:
'Administrator'
Date: Thu Mar 27, 2003 10:35
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Tribute CD to the Columbia Crew
Thanks from my end too!!!
dale
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Owens, James'
To:
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 2:28 PM
Subject: RE: [tadream] OT: Tribute CD to the Columbia Crew
> Robert,
>
> Thanks for making it possible to get it to them!
>
> James
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > I just wanted to let everybody know that I have sent the 8
> > cd's to my
> > friend at Johnson Space Center in Huston. He will send a copy to each
> > family. To the guys that put it together, you did a most
> > excellent job
> > on it.
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Date: Thu Mar 27, 2003 11:53
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Tribute CD to the Columbia Crew
So did you, thanks
Jan
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Robert Asmus'
To: 'Tangerine Tree'
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 11:13 PM
Subject: [tadream] OT: Tribute CD to the Columbia Crew
> I just wanted to let everybody know that I have sent the 8 cd's to my
> friend at Johnson Space Center in Huston. He will send a copy to each
> family. To the guys that put it together, you did a most excellent job
> on it.
>
>
>
>
>
> Robert Asmus
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From:
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Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 1:38
am
Subject: New Steve Jolliffe CD
Steve Jolliffe, a former member of Tangerine Dream, has a new CD out called
'Space' and it is available from us at Horizon Music. Please visit our Web
site at www.hmnetwork.com for more information, an MP3 sample, or to order a
copy.
Sincerely,
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From:
'kayleighsdaddy'
Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 2:39
am
Subject: A quick question about TD boots
Hey there all, just a quick question about TD boots. I have TT 1 and 2
(downloading 3 tomorrow), and I wanted to find out a curious question. I know I
have a boatload of boots, a massive trading list, and I have a ton of Marillion
(and related), Genesis (and related), and TONS of others, but seeing the
quality (all A+ from what I've seen so far and own) related to TD, and how many
hundreds of trading lists I've seen out there with TD live material, just
curious WHAT is the size of an average Tangerine Dream boot collection by fans?
I know 99% of all their shows are all different from venue to venue and from
tour to tour, BUT just curious?
I at one time had nearly 250 Marillion and Fish shows (it's still floating
around 85-90 of EACH as i ditched a ton years ago), and I probably have about
75-80 of Genesis and related (with Collins, Hackett, etc), but with TD? Just
curious. I think aside of TT 1 and 2, I own about 40 more live shows. HOW many
do others have on here? How many are really readily available?
Marillion isn't BIG on taping, so it's difficult as hell. I haven't had much
luck obtaining ANYTHING from their overseas tours (as they don't tour the US
here anymore due to money restrictions), and nobody seems to either want to
trade, OR they've gotten really harsh on the taping policies.
Any response? Thanks....
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From:
mrmorton@a...
Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 12:11
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re; Sequencers
The term 'sequence' as that definition stated, is a 'term of art' in Western
classical music and has little to do with what the term has come to mean in
modern electronic music. The term arose in electronic music to describe
repetitive patterns that used a 'sequencer' to play automatically after the
user programmed in certain parameters. These could stay in the same key, be
short phrases or longer phrases, melodic or rhythmic or both. As 'sequencers'
became digital and allowed for more complexity and polyphony, the term today
has meany meanings but often means an entire piece programmed into midi and
played back by the midi sequencer.
The term loops comes from tape that was 'looped' around the heads and tape
recorder and something else, like a microphone stand,to provide playback of a
repeating pattern that a composer recorded onto the tape. As 'sequencers'
became more complex, the interchangability of the terms 'sequence' and 'loop'
became less useful.
Hope this isn't too off topic.
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From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 10:01
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] A quick question about TD boots
>...just curious WHAT is the size of an average Tangerine Dream boot
>collection by fans? I know 99% of all their shows are all different from
>venue to venue and from tour to tour, BUT just curious?
I've been a TD fan for say, 5 years, and all I have are the TT disks, some
Classic Tree stuff (Live Improvised, The Real Sohoman, Antarktis & 20th C.
Serenades) and a 4-CD collection with overlaps about 40% with TT et al.
So that makes about 50 CDs.
John Vertical
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From:
'Mat Mckenzie'
Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 11:41
am
Subject: RE: [tadream] A quick question about TD boots / TD Collections
Interesting question Dan ! - maybe worthy of a proper survey, how long have you
been a fan? how many concerts have u been too? favourite TD track? favourite
TD album? size of collection? no doubt it's been done before but Maybe Martin
Kasprzak should ask everyone this ?
Without checking I'd say....
how long have you been a fan? Approx 19 years
How many concerts have u been too? About 10
Favourite TD track? Almost impossible to say but either 'Love on a Real Train'
or 'Charly the Kid' or 'Ricochet' ok it's too hard!
Favourite TD album? Almost impossible to say but either 'Ricochet' or 'Exit'
or 'Logos'
Size of boot collection? Approx : Vinyl 20, CD 30, Tape 20
Size of official collection? Approx : Vinyl 100, CD 100, Tape 40
Would love to get the Tangerine Tree TT1, 2 and all the other newsgroup boot
CD's but I don't have broadband at home for downloading and it does seem quite
a complex process with all this leaf & branch stuff! maybe i'll work it out one
day :-)
Mat
-----Original Message-----
From: kayleighsdaddy [mailto:kayleighsdad@i...]
Sent: 28 March 2003 02:39
To: tadream
Subject: [tadream] A quick question about TD boots
Hey there all, just a quick question about TD boots. I have TT 1 and 2
(downloading 3 tomorrow), and I wanted to find out a curious question. I know I
have a boatload of boots, a massive trading list, and I have a ton of Marillion
(and related), Genesis (and related), and TONS of others, but seeing the
quality (all A+ from what I've seen so far and own) related to TD, and how many
hundreds of trading lists I've seen out there with TD live material, just
curious WHAT is the size of an average Tangerine Dream boot collection by fans?
I know 99% of all their shows are all different from venue to venue and from
tour to tour, BUT just curious?
I at one time had nearly 250 Marillion and Fish shows (it's still floating
around 85-90 of EACH as i ditched a ton years ago), and I probably have about
75-80 of Genesis and related (with Collins, Hackett, etc), but with TD? Just
curious. I think aside of TT 1 and 2, I own about 40 more live shows. HOW many
do others have on here? How many are really readily available?
Marillion isn't BIG on taping, so it's difficult as hell. I haven't had much
luck obtaining ANYTHING from their overseas tours (as they don't tour the US
here anymore due to money restrictions), and nobody seems to either want to
trade, OR they've gotten really harsh on the taping policies.
Any response? Thanks....
dan
The Rugrats Romper Room!!!
http://www.iloverugrats.com
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MSN Messenger (kayleighsdad@h...)
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Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 1:17
pm
Subject: OT: my site
Hello everyone,
my site now is working with the new design. there's already an english
version of it, but the site isn't finished yet. there are already 128 kbps
mp3 samples from my album for your enjoyment. please have a look (and
listen) at http://www.gustavojobim.hpg.com.br .
i intend to complete the site soon.
any comments are welcome! :)
gj np: enya
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From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 4:04
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] A quick question about TD boots
Just doing a quick count on Paul Fellows' incredible TD site, there are
approximately 287 individual concerts for which fan recordings exist (a
small percentage taped from radio broadcasts rather than at the concert
directly).
Don't forget that there are multiple versions of many of those concerts as
well. (East Berlin, 1980 comes to mind - I know of 5 different versions
besides the official release, 'Pergammon'.)
I'd guess I have around 150, counting multiple versions of some concerts
> -----Original Message-----
> Hey there all, just a quick question about TD boots. I have
> TT 1 and 2 (downloading 3 tomorrow), and I wanted to find out
> a curious question. I know I have a boatload of boots, a
> massive trading list, and I have a ton of Marillion (and
> related), Genesis (and related), and TONS of others, but
> seeing the quality (all A+ from what I've seen so far and
> own) related to TD, and how many hundreds of trading lists
> I've seen out there with TD live material, just curious WHAT
> is the size of an average Tangerine Dream boot collection by
> fans? I know 99% of all their shows are all different from
> venue to venue and from tour to tour, BUT just curious?
> dan
From:
'maggior'
Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 4:14
pm
Subject: Suspicious auction on Ebay
Take a look at the following auction on Ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
Item&item=2518339023&category=1566
Item #6 I suspect is from the Tangerine Tree.
Am I right? How do we handle this?
Thanks,
Rich Maggio
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From:
'maggior'
Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 4:26
pm
Subject: Re: Suspicious auction on Ebay
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'maggior' wrote:
> Take a look at the following auction on Ebay:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
> Item&item=2518339023&category=1566
>
> Item #6 I suspect is from the Tangerine Tree.
>
> Am I right? How do we handle this?
>
> Thanks,
> Rich Maggio
Let's try this again - hopefully the link won't be wrapped.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2518339023
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From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 4:43
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Suspicious auction on Ebay
All three of the boots (items 5,6,7) are/were available outside of the
tangerine tree.
He could probably sell the set of the 4 legit CDs for $40 - $50, so if the
price doesn't go over that, he's just giving them the three concert boots
for free out of the goodness of his heart :-)
However, e-bay has a strict 'no CDR' policy, and these are doubtlessly
CDRs...
> -----Original Message-----
> Item #6 I suspect is from the Tangerine Tree.
>
> Rich Maggio
From:
Robert Grabowsky
Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 7:17
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Suspicious auction on Ebay
Rich,
It may not be from TT I got the concert on 3 discs way before it hit the
TREE.
THE HIGHLANDER
At 04:26 PM 3/28/03 -0000, you wrote:
>--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'maggior' wrote:
>> Take a look at the following auction on Ebay:
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
>> Item&item=2518339023&category=1566
>>
>> Item #6 I suspect is from the Tangerine Tree.
>>
>> Am I right? How do we handle this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Rich Maggio
>
>Let's try this again - hopefully the link won't be wrapped.
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2518339023
>
>
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>http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
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>
>
From:
'Paul Dryden'
Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 7:38
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] A quick question about TD boots
I have TT1 and 2 plus Classic Tree, which makes 45 approx
TT3 soon (I said I was going to review some of it to MAff!)
Paulus.d
----- Original Message -----
From: 'John Vertical'
To:
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [tadream] A quick question about TD boots
> >...just curious WHAT is the size of an average Tangerine Dream boot
> >collection by fans? I know 99% of all their shows are all different from
> >venue to venue and from tour to tour, BUT just curious?
>
>
> I've been a TD fan for say, 5 years, and all I have are the TT disks, some
> Classic Tree stuff (Live Improvised, The Real Sohoman, Antarktis & 20th C.
> Serenades) and a 4-CD collection with overlaps about 40% with TT et al.
>
> So that makes about 50 CDs.
>
> John Vertical
>
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From:
'Paul Dryden'
Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 7:40
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Suspicious auction on Ebay
Being a member of Ebay, i tried this link.
Ebay says its an INPUT ERROR!!!!
Paulus.d
----- Original Message -----
From: 'maggior'
To:
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 4:14 PM
Subject: [tadream] Suspicious auction on Ebay
> Take a look at the following auction on Ebay:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
> Item&item=2518339023&category=1566
>
> Item #6 I suspect is from the Tangerine Tree.
>
> Am I right? How do we handle this?
>
> Thanks,
> Rich Maggio
>
>
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> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
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>
>
From:
'Colin Jouxson'
Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 7:54
pm
Subject: Re: Suspicious auction on Ebay
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'maggior' wrote:
> Take a look at the following auction on Ebay:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
> Item&item=2518339023&category=1566
>
> Item #6 I suspect is from the Tangerine Tree.
>
> Am I right? How do we handle this?
>
> Thanks,
> Rich Maggio
Looks like another item from a dodgy character,the likes of these
bas@@@@@ ought to be Horsewhipped.Scum of the Earth.
From:
'Bill Fox'
Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 8:31
pm
Subject: EMUSIC Playlist #314 for March 27, 2003
[ Best viewed using a fixed spacing font. ]
EMUSIC is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each
Thursday
at 11:00 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in
Easton,
PA and Phillipsburg, NJ.
Show #314 March 27, 2003.
RECAP:
On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on Spacecraft, a spacemusic
group originally inspired by the Voyager space probe. The Featured CD at
midnight was 'Summer Town' on the Space for Music label.
The Vinyl Starter was from the LP 'Mosaic' by Richard Burmer on the
Fortuna
Records.
I played the music of vidnaObmana who will play at the next Soundscapes in
Bethlehem, Pennsylvania on April 19. He also phoned in from his home in
Belgium for an exclusive interview.
Spacecraft http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic/playlists/2003/focus03.html#mar
vidnaObmana
http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic/playlists/2003/focus03.html#apr
Soundscapes Concert Series http://soundscapes.us
PLAYLIST:
ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label)
======================= ========================
==============================
11:00 pm
Richard Burmer Physics Mosaic (Fortuna)
vidnaObmana Landscape in Obscurity Landscape in Obscurity
(Hypnos)
vidnaObmana Live telephone interview
Mark Shreeve Thought of War - Part 1 Thoughts of War
(Champagne
Lake Productions)
Andreas Akwara Solar Eclipse - Part 1 Solar Eclipse (AA Musci)
12:00 am
Spacecraft Summer Town Summer Town (Space for
Music)
1:00 am
* = exerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)
NEXT SHOW:
On the next EMUSIC, I'll begin a month-long focus on vidnaObmana. The
Featured
CD at Midnight will be 'Act One: Echoes of Steel' from his work in
progress,
'An Opera for Four Fusion Works' on the Hypnos label.
The vinyl show starter will be from the LP 'Pictures at an Exhibition,' an
LP
by Isao Tomita on RCA Records.
I will also play the music of vidnaObmana, Vir Unis, and James Johnson who
will
be appearing at local concerts in April.
Bill
==========================================================================
=====
Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show.
Thursdays at
11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in
Easton and
Phillipsburg. http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic All times are
GMT-5:00
Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN
To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, go to
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emusic-wdiy and click on [Join This
Group!]
Host of the AM/FM Show on WMUH Allentown 91.7 FM every other Saturday at
6 am.
Host of Afterglow on WMUH every Thursday morning from 8:00 to 9:30.
http://soundscapes.us/~bill/amfm
http://soundscapes.us/~bill/afterglow
Listen on-line to WMUH at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click REAL
AUDIO
Personal site: http://soundscapes.us/~bill All times are
GMT-5:00
SOUNDSCAPES Concert Series: http://soundscapes.us
From:
'tei waz'
Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 8:37
pm
Subject: re: Suspicious auction on Ebay
>How do we handle this?
ebay's policy is that the copyright owner (moreorless) has to handle it--so
TD or its agents.......
--T
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From:
'Joe Shoults'
Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 8:53
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Re: Suspicious auction on Ebay
If someone has instructions or a URL handy on how to report this sort of
violation to eBay, please post it on this list for everyone to see. If you
find stuff like this, please report it here so that multiple people will be
jumping on eBay.
If eBay's policies do not forbid CDRs or piracy, what would be the way to
handle it?
Thanks,
Joe
> -----Original Message-----
> From: maggior [mailto:maggior@m...]
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2518339023
>
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From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 9:01
pm
Subject: Hard-edged e-music
I was just listening too 'Pulstar' and 'Main Sequence' by Vangelis, and it
started me thinking about making myself a compilation of hard-edged e-music
cuts that really rock! This is what came to mind:
Vangelis:
Pulstar, Main Sequence, Nucleogenesis (pt. 2) from _Albedo 0.39_
1st Movement of _Heaven and Hell_
Will of the Wind, Dial Out, Rotation's Logic from _Direct_
Nerve Center from _The City_
Yanni:
The Magus from _Optimystique_
Standing in Motion, Point of Origin from _Out of Silence_
Oldfield:
Above the Clouds from _Tubular Bells III_
middle section of Tubular Bells part 1
JMJ:
opening and ending sections of Magnetic Fields part I
TD:
Dominion from _Logos_
Vermillion Breeze ;-)
Sailing Mission from 'The Keep' radio broadcasts
Central Park, Streethawk from _Le Parc_
Horns of Doom from _KLEM_ cassette
Scrap Yard, Dr. Destructo, Diamond Diary (it's hard to choose) from _Thief_
Too Hot for My Chinchilla from _Lily on the Beach_
Cloudburst Flight from _Force Majeure_
Stratosfear from _Stratosfear_
Dolphin Dance as played in Paris 1986 (KILLER organ solo)
Horizon opening and ending sections from _Poland_
Namlook:
Fairlight I from _4 Voice_
Dark Side of the Moog
Phantom Heart Brother pt 4
Franke:
Chimes and Chains from _70-80_ box set
O'Hearn:
Devil's Lake from _Indigo_
Future Sound of London:
Dead Cities from _Dead Cities_
Comments or other suggestions?
James
(I wonder if all that will fit on an MP3 disc?)
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From:
ampmusic
Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 9:05
pm
Subject: Re: Sequencers, Loops
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 12:36:02 -0800 (PST)
> From: Chris Richards
> Subject: Re: sequencing vs loops
>
> < sequencing whole different
> things? I mean, a repeating 'thud thud boing'
> doesn't in my book quite count
> as a sequence...
>
> Or are these loops you're discussing something
> else than just repetition?>>
>
> Wait a second, I thought a sequencer did create a
> repeating 'thud thud boing' when applied to
> oscillators (in a modular synth, a sequencer can
> be applied to any parameter). How would a tape
> loop be different?
>
> =====
> May you never thirst!
Sounds like you may need to hear my CD 'Sequencer Loops' :-)
Despite the title, there are almost no sequencers on it, and not really
anything you'd call a 'loop'.
It SOUNDS like there's flipping tons of both though. The secret of how it's
done may lie somwehere in the instrumentation list....or maybe in Terry Riley's
'A Rainbow In Curved Air'. Info and MP3's at
http://www.ampmusic.demon.co.uk/ampcds.html
and occasionally on eBay, maybe even at
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2519460293
More sequencing in London this coming May, done the traditional way, with a
flipping huge modular synthesizer... :-)
http://www.ampmusic.demon.co.uk/ampconcerts.html
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From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 9:11
pm
Subject: Re: Sequencer Loops
That reminds me... you never did tell us what the 'actual' words are at the
beginning of 'The Stone'...
I made a good guess some time back. I'd like to see how close I got.
Thanks,
James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ampmusic [mailto:info@a...]
>
> Sounds like you may need to hear my CD 'Sequencer Loops' :-)
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2519460293
From:
Antonio Nunes
Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 9:12
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Suspicious auction on Ebay
Joe Shoults wrote:
>
> If someone has instructions or a URL handy on how to report this sort of
> violation to eBay, please post it on this list for everyone to see. If you
> find stuff like this, please report it here so that multiple people will be
> jumping on eBay.
>
> If eBay's policies do not forbid CDRs or piracy, what would be the way to
> handle it?
They do forbid bootlegs. See
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/bootlegs.html
On the same page there is a link to report listing violations, but
apparently only registered users can use it.
Antonio Nunes
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From:
'maggior'
Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 9:17
pm
Subject: Re: Suspicious auction on Ebay
> ebay's policy is that the copyright owner (moreorless) has to
handle it--so
> TD or its agents.......
>
>
> --T
That may be true, but as I remember, one of the conditions that TDI
placed on us to allow the Tangerine Tree project to exist without
interference from them was that we do our best to ensure that these
discs are not sold/exchanged for any sort of profit. We have to
police this ourselves.
So, since Martin from TDI reads this newsgroup, I guess we can
consider TDI to be notified :-). There are some other auctions up
there that they probably won't be pleased about either - like some '2
on 1' soundtrack discs.
Either this guy on Ebay doesn't have a clue or is really shady - he
has Tyger and Lily on the Beach listed as well, though the title of
his auction is for 'live Tangerine Dream'.
Anyway, just trying to be a good 'Tangine Tree/tadream' citizen :-).
I'll second Joe S's suggestion - if anybody knows of a proper
procedure to follow when these situations occur, it would be helpful
for us to police the misuse of the Tangerine Tree volumes.
Thanks,
Rich Maggio
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'tei waz' wrote:
>
> >How do we handle this?
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From:
'maggior'
Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 9:29
pm
Subject: Re: Suspicious auction on Ebay
Thanks Antonio. Ebay's policy is pretty plain. I'm an ebay member,
so I was able to send a message to Ebay's customer service. I
informed them that some of the items are bootlegs and should not be
sold. I'll let you all know what sort of a response I get.
Yes, I acknowledge that these shows may not be from the Tangerine
Tree distribution since they were available previously, but there is
an equal chance that they indeed are.
Thanks,
Rich Maggio
> They do forbid bootlegs. See
> http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/bootlegs.html
>
> On the same page there is a link to report listing violations, but
> apparently only registered users can use it.
>
> Antonio Nunes
From:
Robert Grabowsky
Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 9:45
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Suspicious auction on Ebay
Have you been paying attention to what has been said by other members?????
This show has been available long before the Tree came about.
You are not even sure if it is from the Tree. There is no picture.
Why not e-mail the guy thru 'Ask the seller a question' and have him send
you a scan of the artwork before you get your underwear in a bunch?
THE HIGHLANDER
>That may be true, but as I remember, one of the conditions that TDI
>placed on us to allow the Tangerine Tree project to exist without
>interference from them was that we do our best to ensure that these
>discs are not sold/exchanged for any sort of profit. We have to
>police this ourselves.
>
>So, since Martin from TDI reads this newsgroup, I guess we can
>consider TDI to be notified :-). There are some other auctions up
>there that they probably won't be pleased about either - like some '2
>on 1' soundtrack discs.
>
>Either this guy on Ebay doesn't have a clue or is really shady - he
>has Tyger and Lily on the Beach listed as well, though the title of
>his auction is for 'live Tangerine Dream'.
>
>Anyway, just trying to be a good 'Tangine Tree/tadream' citizen :-).
>
>I'll second Joe S's suggestion - if anybody knows of a proper
>procedure to follow when these situations occur, it would be helpful
>for us to police the misuse of the Tangerine Tree volumes.
>
>Thanks,
>Rich Maggio
>
>
>
>--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'tei waz' wrote:
>>
>> >How do we handle this?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From:
'Administrator'
Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 9:51
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Suspicious auction on Ebay
That seems the present course of action for a lot of things, lets just jump
in there and do it...
yea, one should have asked seller to describe it etc. Ebay will check into
it however, and they do...
I hope this seller isn't selling TD material derived from our efforts.
dale
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Robert Grabowsky'
To:
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Suspicious auction on Ebay
> Have you been paying attention to what has been said by other members?????
>
> This show has been available long before the Tree came about.
>
> You are not even sure if it is from the Tree. There is no picture.
>
> Why not e-mail the guy thru 'Ask the seller a question' and have him send
> you a scan of the artwork before you get your underwear in a bunch?
>
> THE HIGHLANDER
>
>
>
> >That may be true, but as I remember, one of the conditions that TDI
> >placed on us to allow the Tangerine Tree project to exist without
> >interference from them was that we do our best to ensure that these
> >discs are not sold/exchanged for any sort of profit. We have to
> >police this ourselves.
> >
> >So, since Martin from TDI reads this newsgroup, I guess we can
> >consider TDI to be notified :-). There are some other auctions up
> >there that they probably won't be pleased about either - like some '2
> >on 1' soundtrack discs.
> >
> >Either this guy on Ebay doesn't have a clue or is really shady - he
> >has Tyger and Lily on the Beach listed as well, though the title of
> >his auction is for 'live Tangerine Dream'.
> >
> >Anyway, just trying to be a good 'Tangine Tree/tadream' citizen :-).
> >
> >I'll second Joe S's suggestion - if anybody knows of a proper
> >procedure to follow when these situations occur, it would be helpful
> >for us to police the misuse of the Tangerine Tree volumes.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Rich Maggio
> >
> >
> >
> >--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'tei waz' wrote:
> >>
> >> >How do we handle this?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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From:
'michaeljean@e...'
Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 9:52
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Suspicious auction on Ebay
I agree. These look like mainly legitmate releases.
There were also copies of the INFERNO and WARSAW recordings circulating
long before the tree.
Why hassle the guy, unless you know it is advertised as TT?
MJ
Original Message:
-----------------
From: Robert Grabowsky hghlndr@t...
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 16:45:38 -0500
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Suspicious auction on Ebay
Have you been paying attention to what has been said by other members?????
This show has been available long before the Tree came about.
You are not even sure if it is from the Tree. There is no picture.
Why not e-mail the guy thru 'Ask the seller a question' and have him send
you a scan of the artwork before you get your underwear in a bunch?
THE HIGHLANDER
>That may be true, but as I remember, one of the conditions that TDI
>placed on us to allow the Tangerine Tree project to exist without
>interference from them was that we do our best to ensure that these
>discs are not sold/exchanged for any sort of profit. We have to
>police this ourselves.
>
>So, since Martin from TDI reads this newsgroup, I guess we can
>consider TDI to be notified :-). There are some other auctions up
>there that they probably won't be pleased about either - like some '2
>on 1' soundtrack discs.
>
>Either this guy on Ebay doesn't have a clue or is really shady - he
>has Tyger and Lily on the Beach listed as well, though the title of
>his auction is for 'live Tangerine Dream'.
>
>Anyway, just trying to be a good 'Tangine Tree/tadream' citizen :-).
>
>I'll second Joe S's suggestion - if anybody knows of a proper
>procedure to follow when these situations occur, it would be helpful
>for us to police the misuse of the Tangerine Tree volumes.
>
>Thanks,
>Rich Maggio
>
>
>
>--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'tei waz' wrote:
>>
>> >How do we handle this?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From:
quarlie@a...
Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 10:01
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Hard-edged e-music
'Owens, James' wrote:
>I was just listening too 'Pulstar' and 'Main Sequence' by Vangelis, and it
>started me thinking about making myself a compilation of hard-edged e-music
>cuts that really rock! This is what came to mind:
Hmm. Of the ones I've heard on your list, I'm not sure too many strike me as
hard-edged. Too much industrial music for me lately, I guess. That said, a
glance through my collection turned up the following tracks that might meet
your criteria:
The Brain - Now Is Forever
Delerium - Transmitter
Dilate - Shapeshifter
Edgar Froese - Nights of Automatic Women (with rockin' drums from Krieger)
Paul Haslinger - Desert Diva, among others
The Orb - A Mile Long Lump of Lard
Klaus Schulze - Mindphaser (once the drums come in)
Tangerine Dream - Choronzon, Order of the Ginger Guild, Grind, After the Call,
Bride in Cold Tears (a personal favorite of mine)...
Zero Gravity - Stonehenge Revisited
--Daniel
NP: the Cruxshadows - Wishfire
From:
'maggior'
Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 10:27
pm
Subject: Re: Suspicious auction on Ebay
I agree that these shows may not actually be copies of the Tangerine
Tree releases, but they *could* be. In my opion, if there is any
doubt, we should assume that they *are* TT copies.
Copies of the TT shows have been given to Edgar himself and TDI
monitors this group - TDI is certainly aware of what shows are part
of TT. If shows that have been included in our TT distribution start
showing up for sale on Ebay, do you think TDI is going to interview
each seller to find out if they are indeed TT shows? No, they will
likely change their attitude toward our project and could essentially
shut it down (meaning we wouldn't be able to run it out in the
open). This is why I have 'my underware in a bunch' over this - I
would hate to see this project discontinued because of legal issues.
Anyway, I've done what I thought needed to be done for my own
reasons. I will herby discontinue using bandwidth for this topic :-).
Thanks,
Rich Maggio
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'michaeljean@e...'
wrote:
> I agree. These look like mainly legitmate releases.
>
> There were also copies of the INFERNO and WARSAW recordings
circulating
> long before the tree.
>
> Why hassle the guy, unless you know it is advertised as TT?
>
> MJ
>
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: Robert Grabowsky hghlndr@t...
> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 16:45:38 -0500
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Suspicious auction on Ebay
>
>
> Have you been paying attention to what has been said by other
members?????
>
> This show has been available long before the Tree came about.
>
> You are not even sure if it is from the Tree. There is no picture.
>
> Why not e-mail the guy thru 'Ask the seller a question' and have
him send
> you a scan of the artwork before you get your underwear in a bunch?
>
> THE HIGHLANDER
>
>
>
> >That may be true, but as I remember, one of the conditions that
TDI
> >placed on us to allow the Tangerine Tree project to exist without
> >interference from them was that we do our best to ensure that
these
> >discs are not sold/exchanged for any sort of profit. We have to
> >police this ourselves.
> >
> >So, since Martin from TDI reads this newsgroup, I guess we can
> >consider TDI to be notified :-). There are some other auctions up
> >there that they probably won't be pleased about either - like
some '2
> >on 1' soundtrack discs.
> >
> >Either this guy on Ebay doesn't have a clue or is really shady -
he
> >has Tyger and Lily on the Beach listed as well, though the title
of
> >his auction is for 'live Tangerine Dream'.
> >
> >Anyway, just trying to be a good 'Tangine Tree/tadream' citizen :-
).
> >
> >I'll second Joe S's suggestion - if anybody knows of a proper
> >procedure to follow when these situations occur, it would be
helpful
> >for us to police the misuse of the Tangerine Tree volumes.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Rich Maggio
> >
> >
> >
> >--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'tei waz'
wrote:
> >>
> >> >How do we handle this?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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From:
'Administrator'
Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 11:19
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Suspicious auction on Ebay
nada wrong with being diligent.
I just think we might should have dug a bit into the seller before doing the
ebay reporting just to make sure. Then of course, slam him or her or they...
dale
----- Original Message -----
From: 'maggior'
To:
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 2:27 PM
Subject: [tadream] Re: Suspicious auction on Ebay
> I agree that these shows may not actually be copies of the Tangerine
> Tree releases, but they *could* be. In my opion, if there is any
> doubt, we should assume that they *are* TT copies.
>
> Copies of the TT shows have been given to Edgar himself and TDI
> monitors this group - TDI is certainly aware of what shows are part
> of TT. If shows that have been included in our TT distribution start
> showing up for sale on Ebay, do you think TDI is going to interview
> each seller to find out if they are indeed TT shows? No, they will
> likely change their attitude toward our project and could essentially
> shut it down (meaning we wouldn't be able to run it out in the
> open). This is why I have 'my underware in a bunch' over this - I
> would hate to see this project discontinued because of legal issues.
>
> Anyway, I've done what I thought needed to be done for my own
> reasons. I will herby discontinue using bandwidth for this topic :-).
>
> Thanks,
> Rich Maggio
>
>
>
>
> --- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'michaeljean@e...'
> wrote:
> > I agree. These look like mainly legitmate releases.
> >
> > There were also copies of the INFERNO and WARSAW recordings
> circulating
> > long before the tree.
> >
> > Why hassle the guy, unless you know it is advertised as TT?
> >
> > MJ
> >
> > Original Message:
> > -----------------
> > From: Robert Grabowsky hghlndr@t...
> > Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 16:45:38 -0500
> > To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Suspicious auction on Ebay
> >
> >
> > Have you been paying attention to what has been said by other
> members?????
> >
> > This show has been available long before the Tree came about.
> >
> > You are not even sure if it is from the Tree. There is no picture.
> >
> > Why not e-mail the guy thru 'Ask the seller a question' and have
> him send
> > you a scan of the artwork before you get your underwear in a bunch?
> >
> > THE HIGHLANDER
> >
> >
> >
> > >That may be true, but as I remember, one of the conditions that
> TDI
> > >placed on us to allow the Tangerine Tree project to exist without
> > >interference from them was that we do our best to ensure that
> these
> > >discs are not sold/exchanged for any sort of profit. We have to
> > >police this ourselves.
> > >
> > >So, since Martin from TDI reads this newsgroup, I guess we can
> > >consider TDI to be notified :-). There are some other auctions up
> > >there that they probably won't be pleased about either - like
> some '2
> > >on 1' soundtrack discs.
> > >
> > >Either this guy on Ebay doesn't have a clue or is really shady -
> he
> > >has Tyger and Lily on the Beach listed as well, though the title
> of
> > >his auction is for 'live Tangerine Dream'.
> > >
> > >Anyway, just trying to be a good 'Tangine Tree/tadream' citizen :-
> ).
> > >
> > >I'll second Joe S's suggestion - if anybody knows of a proper
> > >procedure to follow when these situations occur, it would be
> helpful
> > >for us to police the misuse of the Tangerine Tree volumes.
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >Rich Maggio
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'tei waz'
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >How do we handle this?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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From:
'billythefish01'
Date: Sat Mar 29, 2003 12:41
am
Subject: Re: Suspicious auction on Ebay
FACT:- TT project now exists and covers pretty mush most live
concerts previously available with more to follow.
FACT:- TT is tolerated by TD themelves (see below)
FACT:- Anyone with the the nouse to locate this auction (or any
other similar) should be similarly able to locte this group and /or
TT project.
Conclusion:- this kind of auction is now history. It never needs to
exist again (no matter how long these recordings have been on offer
before). With 650 plus members, it IS up to us to bombard
these 'sellers' with advice and links to the now correct channels
and to inform e-bay (or others) likewise.
Long live the TT project!
BTF
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Administrator' wrote:
> nada wrong with being diligent.
>
> I just think we might should have dug a bit into the seller before
doing the
> ebay reporting just to make sure. Then of course, slam him or her
or they...
>
> dale
>
>
>>
> > I agree that these shows may not actually be copies of the
Tangerine
> > Tree releases, but they *could* be. In my opion, if there is any
> > doubt, we should assume that they *are* TT copies.
> >
> > Copies of the TT shows have been given to Edgar himself and TDI
> > monitors this group - TDI is certainly aware of what shows are
part
> > of TT. If shows that have been included in our TT distribution
start
> > showing up for sale on Ebay, do you think TDI is going to
interview
> > each seller to find out if they are indeed TT shows? No, they
will
> > likely change their attitude toward our project and could
essentially
> > shut it down (meaning we wouldn't be able to run it out in the
> > open). This is why I have 'my underware in a bunch' over this -
I
> > would hate to see this project discontinued because of legal
issues.
> >
> > Anyway, I've done what I thought needed to be done for my own
> > reasons. I will herby discontinue using bandwidth for this
topic :-).
> > > Why hassle the guy, unless you know it is advertised as TT?
> > >
> > > MJ
> > >
> > > >Either this guy on Ebay doesn't have a clue or is really
shady -
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From:
'Robert Asmus'
Date: Sat Mar 29, 2003 2:10
am
Subject: RE: [tadream] Re: Suspicious auction on Ebay
My One Cent worth...
I don't think that we have too much to worry about. I am sure that the
Folks at TDI have already seen our concerns. Just like a couple
Of months ago when somebody found a web site selling TD shows
And saw our concerns. I am sure they feel a lot of pride in
How much we care about this project and I hope they will not stop
It on the members.
Robert Asmus
-----Original Message-----
From: billythefish01 [mailto:mudspanker@y...]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 7:42 PM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] Re: Suspicious auction on Ebay
FACT:- TT project now exists and covers pretty mush most live
concerts previously available with more to follow.
FACT:- TT is tolerated by TD themelves (see below)
FACT:- Anyone with the the nouse to locate this auction (or any
other similar) should be similarly able to locte this group and /or
TT project.
Conclusion:- this kind of auction is now history. It never needs to
exist again (no matter how long these recordings have been on offer
before). With 650 plus members, it IS up to us to bombard
these 'sellers' with advice and links to the now correct channels
and to inform e-bay (or others) likewise.
Long live the TT project!
BTF
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Administrator' wrote:
> nada wrong with being diligent.
>
> I just think we might should have dug a bit into the seller before
doing the
> ebay reporting just to make sure. Then of course, slam him or her
or they...
>
> dale
>
>
>>
> > I agree that these shows may not actually be copies of the
Tangerine
> > Tree releases, but they *could* be. In my opion, if there is any
> > doubt, we should assume that they *are* TT copies.
> >
> > Copies of the TT shows have been given to Edgar himself and TDI
> > monitors this group - TDI is certainly aware of what shows are
part
> > of TT. If shows that have been included in our TT distribution
start
> > showing up for sale on Ebay, do you think TDI is going to
interview
> > each seller to find out if they are indeed TT shows? No, they
will
> > likely change their attitude toward our project and could
essentially
> > shut it down (meaning we wouldn't be able to run it out in the
> > open). This is why I have 'my underware in a bunch' over this -
I
> > would hate to see this project discontinued because of legal
issues.
> >
> > Anyway, I've done what I thought needed to be done for my own
> > reasons. I will herby discontinue using bandwidth for this
topic :-).
> > > Why hassle the guy, unless you know it is advertised as TT?
> > >
> > > MJ
> > >
> > > >Either this guy on Ebay doesn't have a clue or is really
shady -
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From:
Robert Grabowsky
Date: Sat Mar 29, 2003 2:36
am
Subject: RE: [tadream] Re: Suspicious auction on Ebay
Hey Rich,
What about the 16 other Tangerine Dream Bootlegs on Ebay including
someone selling their personal copy of Electronic Orgy????
You gonna turn them in too???
What about all of the bootlegs you have bought or traded for maybe you
should report yourself and your sources to the Tangerine Dream attorneys???
And remember to 'assume' makes an ass out of you and me.
I think you can find better things to do with your time when you do not
know for sure that an item is not from The Tree.
Last words from THE HIGHLANDER
>>>
>> > I agree that these shows may not actually be copies of the
>Tangerine
>> > Tree releases, but they *could* be. In my opion, if there is any
>> > doubt, we should assume that they *are* TT copies.
>> >
>> > Copies of the TT shows have been given to Edgar himself and TDI
>> > monitors this group - TDI is certainly aware of what shows are
>part
>> > of TT. If shows that have been included in our TT distribution
>start
>> > showing up for sale on Ebay, do you think TDI is going to
>interview
>> > each seller to find out if they are indeed TT shows? No, they
>will
>> > likely change their attitude toward our project and could
>essentially
>> > shut it down (meaning we wouldn't be able to run it out in the
>> > open). This is why I have 'my underware in a bunch' over this -
>I
>> > would hate to see this project discontinued because of legal
>issues.
>> >
>> > Anyway, I've done what I thought needed to be done for my own
>> > reasons. I will herby discontinue using bandwidth for this
>topic :-).
From:
Gustavo Jobim
Date: Sat Mar 29, 2003 2:58
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Hard-edged e-music
It's an interesting idea...
but Oldfield is no e-music...
well, TB isn't at all, but TB3 has synths here and there. Maybe his latest,
Tres Lunas, which I don't have but I listened some, could be considered EM,
but the album claims to be chill-out music, not hard-edged at all, certainly.
I suggest you try Heldon. I recommend the tracks from the Interface album,
specially. You can also try Nine Inch Nails: Head Like a Hole, Starfuckers
Inc., Mr. Self Destruct, March of the Pigs... Ash Ra Tempel's Amboss (1st
track from the 1st album), Trans AM's I Want It All (fantastic piece of
100% pure Moog bass, vocoder and real drums), from their album Red Line, a
masterpiece, which has other such pieces like Polizei. All these are what I
call hard-edged. Try Einstürzende Neubauten too, like Installation No.1 and
Was Ist Ist from the Ende Neu album.
>I was just listening too 'Pulstar' and 'Main Sequence' by Vangelis, and it
>started me thinking about making myself a compilation of hard-edged e-music
>cuts that really rock!(...)
>TD:
>Stratosfear from _Stratosfear_
that's not really hard edged, for me.
that 'acoustic lsd' piece with the insane guitar solo could be one.
and albedo's main sequence is really fantastic.
------
Gustavo Jobim
http://www.gustavojobim.hpg.com.br
gustavojobim@s...
From:
'Adele Outland'
Date: Sat Mar 29, 2003 3:12
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] A quick question about TD boots
Trying to give a quick answer without actually counting: I would guess about
100 cdr's and probably twice that in tape. However, much of that is
probably...no most assuredly... duplicated. Does that make me average? I
don't think so. There are humongous collections out there! I'm just a puppy.
8-Dell
As time slips into memory, memory fades into dreams.
>From: 'John Vertical'
>Reply-To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
>To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [tadream] A quick question about TD boots
>Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 12:01:29 +0200
>
> >...just curious WHAT is the size of an average Tangerine Dream boot
> >collection by fans? I know 99% of all their shows are all different from
> >venue to venue and from tour to tour, BUT just curious?
>
>
>I've been a TD fan for say, 5 years, and all I have are the TT disks, some
>Classic Tree stuff (Live Improvised, The Real Sohoman, Antarktis & 20th C.
>Serenades) and a 4-CD collection with overlaps about 40% with TT et al.
>
>So that makes about 50 CDs.
>
>John Vertical
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From:
'Robert Asmus'
Date: Sat Mar 29, 2003 3:53
am
Subject: OT: Columbia Tribute CD
Just a little note to all that were involved.. I took my copy with me
to work to listen to. I love the work that you did on it. While I was
listening to it, my supervisor asked what it was I was listening to so I
showed her. She said she had never heard music like this. I told her
how this compilation came about. And the rough time frame that it took
to complete it. I can't put it in the right words that she said to me
to make it sound right. But she said was that with everything that is
going on. It is nice to how people all around like to express how they
feel. Like for existence, I showed this to my wife and she has
listened to it with me. She is not an electronic music fan. Especially
when I play TD. But she loves to listen to this album with me. But she
will not listen to the last three tracks with me. When I started to
play this yesterday she was reading the track list. She in her opinion
felt that the last 3 songs had great sadness in them. It took me till
tonight to realize what she was meaning and I will share that with you.
My wife and I had a baby boy back on July 29, 1996. He was a beautiful
boy. But after two days my son Ian started to have some problems.
After about a week in children's hospital we found out that Ian had a
extremely rare neurological disorder. With much research I found out
that it was so rare that my son was the 20th baby in the world to be
diagnosed with it in the 20 years since it was discovered. The Disorder
was called Ohtahara Syndrome. We found out that it was terminal. Ian
passed away on Nov 4, 1998. But during that time I saw things in my
son that just amazed me that I could never imagine. When I knew what
the outcome was. I know Ian knew something was wrong but he fought to
the end. And he never lost his personality. Like all dad's I would do
things with my son. I used to watch Tool Time with Tim Allen and I
would mimick the sounds that Tim made to him. Well the day that I
accepted my sons fate I was holding him and felt very sad. I know Ian
sensed it and he started to make the sounds that Tim Allen makes, to
make me feel better. But the thing I remember most was the facial
expressions that he was making. Ian made me laugh so hard that my wife
Julia asked me what I going on. When I told her I had to have her come
and take Ian out of my arms. He had made me laugh that hard and it made
me feel better about it. Thinking about the last three tracks It does
have some meaning of sadness. I am not a truly religious person, but if
there is a heaven up there. I know my Ian is up there running free.
Robert Asmus
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Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 3:23
pm
Subject: birthday greetings from UPI
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030327-033408-3990r
Today's musical milestones:
(April 4)
Today's birthdays include Muddy Waters, whose real name was
McKinley Morganfield, who was born in 1915; Hugh Masekela in
1939 (age 64); Major Lance in 1941 (age 62); Tangerine
Dream's Christoph Franke in 1942 (age 61); Berry Oakley of the
Allman Brothers Band was born in 1948; Gail Davies was also
born in 1948 (age 55); Steve Gatlin of the Gatlin Brothers in 1951
(age 52); Slade guitarist Dave Hill and Peter Haycock of the
Climax Blues Band, both in 1952 (age 51); Motley Crue guitarist
Mick Mars, whose real name is Bob Deal, in 1955 (age 48); and
Deacon Blue guitarist Graeme Kelling in 1957 (age 46).
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From:
'flibbleblah'
Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 2:24
pm
Subject: TT3
Hi all,
Please be patient with me, as I'm a newbie to this group... :)
I'm interested in joining TT3, but haven't heard back after I emailed
the list owner (link on the tree website). Is TT3 still going?
I received a copy of TT2, which I really enjoyed --- I loved volumes
10, 12, and 14. I managed to get some of TT1 from the recent postings
on alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.electronic (thank you!), but missed volume
7 (Croydon Fairfield Hall 1975).
Many thanks!
Kind regards,
Matthew
From:
giuseppe milazzo
Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 1:29
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] A quick ans about TD boots / TD Collections
Hi Mat,
I am been a TD fun for long time, and me too II havn't got a broadband, (I
can't afford at the moment') but I can help you by copies TT1 and TT@ for you.
This is a short, very short letter.
So I wait for your reply
Giuseppe
Mat Mckenzie wrote:Interesting question Dan ! -
maybe worthy of a proper survey, how long have you been a fan? how many
concerts have u been too? favourite TD track? favourite TD album? size of
collection? no doubt it's been done before but Maybe Martin Kasprzak should ask
everyone this ?
Without checking I'd say....
how long have you been a fan? Approx 19 years
How many concerts have u been too? About 10
Favourite TD track? Almost impossible to say but either 'Love on a Real Train'
or 'Charly the Kid' or 'Ricochet' ok it's too hard!
Favourite TD album? Almost impossible to say but either 'Ricochet' or 'Exit' or
'Logos'
Size of boot collection? Approx : Vinyl 20, CD 30, Tape 20
Size of official collection? Approx : Vinyl 100, CD 100, Tape 40
Would love to get the Tangerine Tree TT1, 2 and all the other newsgroup boot
CD's but I don't have broadband at home for downloading and it does seem quite
a complex process with all this leaf & branch stuff! maybe i'll work it out one
day :-)
Mat
-----Original Message-----
From: kayleighsdaddy [mailto:kayleighsdad@i...]
Sent: 28 March 2003 02:39
To: tadream
Subject: [tadream] A quick question about TD boots
Hey there all, just a quick question about TD boots. I have TT 1 and 2
(downloading 3 tomorrow), and I wanted to find out a curious question. I know I
have a boatload of boots, a massive trading list, and I have a ton of Marillion
(and related), Genesis (and related), and TONS of others, but seeing the
quality (all A+ from what I've seen so far and own) related to TD, and how many
hundreds of trading lists I've seen out there with TD live material, just
curious WHAT is the size of an average Tangerine Dream boot collection by fans?
I know 99% of all their shows are all different from venue to venue and from
tour to tour, BUT just curious?
I at one time had nearly 250 Marillion and Fish shows (it's still floating
around 85-90 of EACH as i ditched a ton years ago), and I probably have about
75-80 of Genesis and related (with Collins, Hackett, etc), but with TD? Just
curious. I think aside of TT 1 and 2, I own about 40 more live shows. HOW many
do others have on here? How many are really readily available?
Marillion isn't BIG on taping, so it's difficult as hell. I haven't had much
luck obtaining ANYTHING from their overseas tours (as they don't tour the US
here anymore due to money restrictions), and nobody seems to either want to
trade, OR they've gotten really harsh on the taping policies.
Any response? Thanks....
dan
The Rugrats Romper Room!!!
http://www.iloverugrats.com
AOL IM (kayleighsdad) / Yahoo (kayleighsdaddy)
MSN Messenger (kayleighsdad@h...)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SLuRP_Trading
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From:
Felna Greymane
Date: Sat Mar 29, 2003 7:12
am
Subject: Re: Suspicious auction on Ebay
I think it just as likely this guy got the TT set and is getting rid of his
old non-TT copies. I agree that unless the price went nuts this isn't
that big of a deal.
I ended up giving my old sets replaced by TT sets to friends that like some
TD but never asked me to make them copies. Spreads the music around a bit.
Greymane on Kali - #24670 *** ICQ #312642
(also in #TADREAM in IRC) I HIGHLY recommend these programs!
From:
Morgan Feldon
Date: Sat Mar 29, 2003 7:25
am
Subject: A quick question about TD boots
>from kayleighsdaddy:
>Hey there all, just a quick question about TD boots. I have TT 1 and 2
>(downloading 3 tomorrow), and I wanted to find out a curious question. I
>know I
>have a boatload of boots, a massive trading list,
It's a little bit out of date re: TT3, but you might find this useful:
http://www.feldoncentral.com/tddisc/Bootlegs.txt
Anything under Depreciated is going to kept purely for sentimental value at
this point.
From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Sat Mar 29, 2003 7:28
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Hard-edged e-music
> >Stratosfear from _Stratosfear_
>
>that's not really hard edged, for me.
>that 'acoustic lsd' piece with the insane guitar solo could be one.
I'll second that here - though SF 95 could count as hard-edged.
And what about Ricochet Part One? the beginning of Atem? Madrigal Meridian?
...
If live tapes count in too, make sure to add Thermal Inversion.
John Vertical
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From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Sat Mar 29, 2003 7:32
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] birthday greetings from UPI
>Today's musical milestones:
>
>
>(April 4)
>
>Tangerine
>Dream's Christoph Franke in 1942 (age 61);
That'd make him 29 by the time Alpha Centauri was recorded. He was 17.. so
the year should be 1954 and the current age 49, right?
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From:
Morgan Feldon
Date: Sat Mar 29, 2003 7:48
am
Subject: A quick question about TD boots
Some interesting, if dry statistics:
The 2 numbers after the year are:
-Shows for which I have a recording
-Shows for which known tapes exist
1968 1/1
1971 2/2
1972 1/1
1973 2/2
1974 8/8
1975 14/17 (82%)
1976 20/25 (80%)
1977 11/11 (100%)
1978 6/12 (50%)
1980 7/17 (41%)
1981 14/22 (64%)
1982 9/21 (43%)
1983 7/7 (100%)
1986 9/41
1987 1/1
1988 4/25
1990 2/13
1992 3/16
1995 0/1
1996 1/1
1997 4/16
1998 1/1
1999 1/1
2001 4/4
-Morgan
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From:
Morgan Feldon
Date: Sat Mar 29, 2003 8:28
am
Subject: Bootleggers, roll your DATs!
I thought the timing appropriate...
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.04/play.html?pg=4
>Fans have traded live bootlegs for decades ('Got that 'Dark Star' from
>Cleveland '73?'). But the tech - gadgets like laptop recorders, portable
>DAT players, and pen-sized microphones, as well as distribution methods
>like SHNapster and FTP servers - keeps getting better....'It becomes, 'How
>much time do I have in the day to burn it?'' says John Bartol, a
>35-year-old IT consultant from Alexandria, Virginia, who has been taping
>and trading concerts since 1984. 'There's always more to grab.'
>
>Among the booters' most inventive tactics: using wireless radio receivers
>that capture signals sent to the in-ear monitors musicians wear to hear
>one another onstage. Fans can record a pristine feed of the entire show
>from outside the venue.
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From:
Klaus Beschorner
Date: Sat Mar 29, 2003 9:42
am
Subject: Suspicious auction on Ebay
Hi all,
I won't quote anybody on the negative side of my remarks, because
I will use irony and exaggeration to make my point as clear as
possible:
I am appalled at how easily people turn into inquisitors,
Blockwart, Stasi-Spitzel (you name your branch of local denounciator)
just because it's 'for a good cause'.
Irony and exaggeration end here.
A fair and balanced reaction, in my opinion, would be to ask
the seller a question. Then report the auction here on this
list if it's clearly Tangerine Tree (TT) material and he
won't pull it back himself, or you don't get a
satisfactory answer.
Then leave it to TDI, as the copyright owner (or believable
imposter for some older material ;-), to have ebay cancel
the auction.
Do not report the auction to ebay right away, they will usually
not do any background checks. They'll just cancel the auction to
cover their own derrieres. Unless the seller is a real pro,
that is, a power seller, a good ebay customer. In this case,
they'll ignore any pleads until the real copyright owner
speaks up.
Do not accuse people of willful wrongdoings out of the blue.
Someone might just be selling off the collection of his
deceased cousin and never have read the 'never sell, only trade'.
That would hardly make him the scum of the earth in my value system.
Give people a chance to explain themselves before public
denounciation and being 'burnt at the stake'.
If the price for TDI's toleration of the TT is that we
help to keep up the 'never sell, only trade', then this is
as much 'policing' as I would be willing to.
Nobody has ever asked us to interfere with non-TT material,
so please let's keep it this way!
klaus
From:
ampmusic
Date: Sat Mar 29, 2003 10:17
am
Subject: Re; Sequencer Loops
Message: 7
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 15:11:16 -0600
From: 'Owens, James'
Subject: Re: Sequencer Loops
That reminds me... you never did tell us what the 'actual' words are at
the
beginning of 'The Stone'...
I made a good guess some time back. I'd like to see how close I got.
Thanks,
James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ampmusic [mailto:info@a...]
>
> Sounds like you may need to hear my CD 'Sequencer Loops' :-)
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2519460293
You were 98% right and I owe you a CD...
Please e-mail me offlist with your address.
I was pleased that the words were as intelligible as they turned out to
be. I really struggled with the vocoder trying to make it a bit more
intelligible than the opening of 'Cyclone'...
I'll post the original words shortly. Basically it's a poem about
alchemy.
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From:
'hlauj000'
Date: Sat Mar 29, 2003 8:04
am
Subject: classic tree
Was there ever artwork or setlists for the classic tree?
I have found the TT1 , TT2 and TT3 info but nothing for Classic.
Thanks for any help
Hans
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From:
René Brenner
Date: Sat Mar 29, 2003 11:26
am
Subject: Re: classic tree
It should be here:
http://mst3uk.com/tdtree/ct/index.htm
But it looks like Maff took the website down.
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'hlauj000' wrote:
> Was there ever artwork or setlists for the classic tree?
> I have found the TT1 , TT2 and TT3 info but nothing for Classic.
> Thanks for any help
> Hans
From:
herold.u@t...
Date: Sat Mar 29, 2003 12:49
pm
Subject: homepage updated
Hi all,
after a long time I have updated my homepage today.
If you're interested go to
http://members.tripod.de/goblinsdream/
dreamin' regards,
Uwe
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From:
herold.u@t...
Date: Sat Mar 29, 2003 12:52
pm
Subject: homepage updated
Hi all,
after a long time I have updated my homepage today.
If you're interested go to
http://members.tripod.de/goblinsdream/
dreamin' regards,
Uwe
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From:
herold.u@t...
Date: Sat Mar 29, 2003 12:52
pm
Subject: homepage updated
Hi all,
after a long time I have updated my homepage today.
If you're interested go to
http://members.tripod.de/goblinsdream/
dreamin' regards,
Uwe
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From:
'John Marchington'
Date: Sat Mar 29, 2003 1:01
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] classic tree
I have it all. If you like to reply to me off line I can send it to you.
----- Original Message -----
From: 'hlauj000'
To:
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 8:04 PM
Subject: [tadream] classic tree
> Was there ever artwork or setlists for the classic tree?
> I have found the TT1 , TT2 and TT3 info but nothing for Classic.
> Thanks for any help
> Hans
>
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From:
'Matthew Sawyer'
Date: Sat Mar 29, 2003 1:08
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: classic tree
From: 'René Brenner'
> It should be here:
>
> http://mst3uk.com/tdtree/ct/index.htm
>
> But it looks like Maff took the website down.
I'm in the process of moving the covers for all the tree projects to a single
site. In the meantime, the CT art is available from these links:
> > http://www.matthewsawyer.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tdtree/ct_20th.zip
> > http://www.matthewsawyer.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tdtree/ct_antarktis.zip
> > http://www.matthewsawyer.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tdtree/ct_berlin.zip
> > http://www.matthewsawyer.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tdtree/ct_cologne.zip
> > http://www.matthewsawyer.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tdtree/ct_liveimprov.zip
> > http://www.matthewsawyer.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tdtree/ct_strangeatt.zip
> > http://www.matthewsawyer.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tdtree/ct_trs.zip
Maff
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From:
'Jim Moore'
Date: Sat Mar 29, 2003 1:54
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] homepage updated
Are CD Longboxes collectibles? If so, I've got quite a few that I never
bothered to throw away...
- jim
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Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 7:49 AM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] homepage updated
Hi all,
after a long time I have updated my homepage today.
If you're interested go to
http://members.tripod.de/goblinsdream/
dreamin' regards,
Uwe
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From:
Gustavo Jobim
Date: Sat Mar 29, 2003 2:30
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Hard-edged e-music
>I'll second that here - though SF 95 could count as hard-edged.
>And what about Ricochet Part One? the beginning of Atem? Madrigal Meridian?
>...
>If live tapes count in too, make sure to add Thermal Inversion.
>John Vertical
Hmm.. not really for me.
I think Zeit is one hard-edged piece of music. (the whole album). it sounds
like it's impossible to make nowadays. for me, certainly one of the best TD
works.
Electronic Meditation too.
Conrad Schnitzler.
Manuel's E2-E4.
by Schulze, Voices of Syn, from Blackdance. Irrlicht. Cyborg. Mirage, maybe.
gj np sigur rós ( )
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From:
Gustavo Jobim
Date: Sat Mar 29, 2003 2:32
pm
Subject: D:Studio [Rockoon]
I had the luck to find Rockoon, which I had never heard before at all, for
a very nice price. of course, I bought it.
at first listen,
my opinion about the music is, usually,
yawwwwn.
(what a difference from 220 volt)
but who knows, with time and other chances.
gj np sigur rós ( )
------
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From:
Richard
Date: Sat Mar 29, 2003 4:05
pm
Subject: (OT) Can anyone recommend Klaus Schulze's Contemporary weorks Vol 1 ???
A quick question to those in the know:
I have quite a few of Klaus Schulze's albums including Contemporary
Works Vol 2 which I find interesting. Can anyone recommend Vol 1 (10
disc set) or any of the other 10 disc sets?
Cheers
--
Richard F
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From:
Gustavo Jobim
Date: Sat Mar 29, 2003 4:40
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] (OT) Can anyone recommend Klaus Schulze's Contemporary weorks Vol 1 ???
>I have quite a few of Klaus Schulze's albums including Contemporary
>Works Vol 2 which I find interesting. Can anyone recommend Vol 1 (10
>disc set) or any of the other 10 disc sets?
>Cheers -- Richard F
CW 1 is a great collection. My favourites are cds 1,2,3 and 4; there's
Ballett, which is a 4cd work inside the box (cd 6,7,8,9) with a lot of
different kinds of music, but usually some of the most expansive KS music
ever, like most works in CW 2. The only CD I don't like is CD5, made in
collaboration with this group which name I forgot, because there are these
dub rhythms and stuff I don't enjoy. One of my favourite tracks in CW1 is
Overchill, with an excellent vocal work.
about the other sets I can't say much because i've only heard a few cdrs I
have. but there's some fantastic work in there.
------
Gustavo Jobim
http://www.gustavojobim.hpg.com.br
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From:
'fozziebear'
Date: Sat Mar 29, 2003 6:03
pm
Subject: hard-edged e-music
I would include Frank Herbert by KS
David
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From:
Jorge Figueiredo
Date: Sat Mar 29, 2003 6:38
pm
Subject: TD enigma
I've this enigmatic story for you:
The Place: Lousã, a small town (15000 habitants) in the centre of
Portugal.
The Context: an English class for 10-11 year old pupils.
The Teacher asks: What are your favourite singers / bands?
4 of the 20 pupils answer: Tangerine Dream!
(other enigmatic answers were Pink Floyd)
How can you explain this (true!) story?
I will give the correct answer in a few days...
Note: there are no prizes involved. :-)
Regards,
Jorge Figueiredo
((> Vangelis - Blade Runner Esper Edition <))
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From:
'dweller_benthos'
Date: Sat Mar 29, 2003 2:40
pm
Subject: Miracle Mile on FLIX tonight
Miracle Mile will be on the cable movie channel FLIX tonight,
Saturday, March 29, at 10:30 PM EST. Maybe I'll take a trip out today
and see if I can pick up the soundtrack CD, don't have that one...
(written 3-29-03 9:40 AM EST)
From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Sat Mar 29, 2003 7:10
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] TD enigma
>4 of the 20 pupils answer: Tangerine Dream!
>(other enigmatic answers were Pink Floyd)
>
>How can you explain this (true!) story?
Do you happen to have quadruplets who you've taught to like TD? :-)
John Vertical
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From:
Frédéric Yargui
Date: Sat Mar 29, 2003 7:21
pm
Subject: curious
Hello, Dreamers,
I've found a funny web site featuring TS stuff in mp3 format :
http://www.transcd.com/artist/909.html
Antarktis is included in the best of, isn't this strange ? And there is a lot
of artists in this site...
Dream On,
Fred
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From:
René Brenner
Date: Sat Mar 29, 2003 8:14
pm
Subject: Re: (OT) Can anyone recommend Klaus Schulze's Contemporary weorks Vol 1 ???
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Richard wrote:
> A quick question to those in the know:
>
> I have quite a few of Klaus Schulze's albums including Contemporary
> Works Vol 2 which I find interesting. Can anyone recommend Vol 1 (10
> disc set) or any of the other 10 disc sets?
If you like Contemporary Works Vol. 2 I can strongly recommend you
Vol. 1 because it is somehow better imho especially if you like vocals
and atmospheres.
Regards
René Brenner
From:
Antonio Nunes
Date: Sat Mar 29, 2003 8:42
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] TD enigma
Jorge Figueiredo wrote:
>
> The Context: an English class for 10-11 year old pupils.
> The Teacher asks: What are your favourite singers / bands?
> 4 of the 20 pupils answer: Tangerine Dream!
> (other enigmatic answers were Pink Floyd)
>
> How can you explain this (true!) story?
I was going to answer that you were the teacher, but then I think your
pupils are a bit older. Maybe these pupils learn English by reading the
tadream list? :-)
Antonio Nunes
np: Pink Floyd - 'In concert' for the BBC
From:
Chris Richards
Date: Sat Mar 29, 2003 9:25
pm
Subject: Re: monitor mixes
<<>Among the booters' most inventive tactics:
using
wireless radio receivers
>that capture signals sent to the in-ear monitors
musicians wear to hear
>one another onstage. Fans can record a pristine
feed of the entire show
>from outside the venue.>>
Except that monitor mixes are usually completely
different from soundboard mixes. It was once
noted that tapes made from the Grateful Dead's
monitor feeds revealed that each band member had
his own instrument turned up way loud in his own
mix with everyone else turned way down. I think
it's the guy who ran that their monitor board who
said that they were very 'egocentric' with their
monitor mixes.
=====
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From:
Jorge Figueiredo
Date: Sat Mar 29, 2003 10:30
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] TD enigma
No, I'm not the teacher and, John, I haven't quadruplets. The teacher is
a friend of mine and is not a TD fan.
Regards,
Jorge Figueiredo
On 3/29/2003 8:42 PM, Antonio Nunes wrote:
>
> I was going to answer that you were the teacher, but then I think your
> pupils are a bit older. Maybe these pupils learn English by reading the
> tadream list? :-)
>
> Antonio Nunes
From:
'vic rek'
Date: Sun Mar 30, 2003 4:21
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Air Sculpture live at the National Space Centre
From: 'Mat Mckenzie'
Subject: [tadream] Air Sculpture live at the National Space Centre
> Speaking of concerts...........
>
> Anyone thinking of going to see 'Air Sculpture' live at the National Space
Centre, Leicester, UK April 5th ?
They will also be at the Ricochet Gathering at the Mojave Desert, California
from April 25-39th. Check out www.ricochetdream.com or you can contact me
for more information, including a subscription pack.
Also here is a trivia question I heard on the radio. 'What is the name of
the Canadian Space Agency?'
Only about 16% of Canadians got it right.
Vic
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From:
'Bill Fox'
Date: Sun Mar 30, 2003 5:47
am
Subject: The AM/FM Show Playlist for March 29, 2003.
[ Best viewed using a fixed spacing font. ]
The Saturday AM/FM Show is hosted every other week by Bill Fox who plays
electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of
other
genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM
and
on the internet. Send me comments if you love or hate what I played. I
also
host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am.
I played the music of vidnaObmana who will perform at the next Soundscapes
Concert Series on April 19, at Bethlehem's IceHouse on Sand Island. I
also
played the music of Vir Unis and James Johnson who will play at the
Gathering
Gathering on April 12 at St. Mary's Hamilton Village in Philadelphia.
I played
the music od Matt Borghi and Jason Sloan who will be on the same bill as
vidnaObmana at the Gate to Moonbase Alpha on April 18 at the Rotunda in
Philadelphia.
The Soundscapes Concert Series - http://soundscapes.us
The Gatherings Concert Series - http://thegatherings.org
Gate to Moonbase Alpha - http://www.foundationarts.org
Show #20 March 29, 2003.
PLAYLIST:
Phase I/Space:
ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label)
======================= ========================
==============================
vidnaObmana Over Blue Mountains Twilight of Perception
(Projekt)
Matt Borghi A Name Elegy for Time (Space for
Music)
Vir Unis and Metabolizing Starlight Perimeter (In the Bubble
Music
James Johnson Directly and Zero Music)
Jason Sloan Solidification for a A Quiet Return (Grey Area
Quiet Return Studio Recordings)
Jurgen Haible Open Corridor Holiday in Purgatory
(none)
Phase II/Eclectic:
ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label)
======================= ========================
==============================
VA [Enrapture] Where She Ends (and I The Violet Collection:
Charity
Begin) Compilation (MP3.COM)
Chuck Offut and Song of the Earth Balance of Nature (Equity
Michael Dulin Digital)
Tommy Emmanuel Those Who Wait Only (Favored Nations
Acoustic)
Adrian Legg Jam Tomorrow Guitar Bones (Favored
Nations
Acoustic)
Throat Culture Easter Island Head Acappella Head (none)
Phase III/Progressive Rock:
ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label)
======================= ========================
==============================
Pigs and Pyramids Comfortably Numb Un Voyage En Progressif
Volume 8 (Musea)
Alaska Two Shades of Grey Alaska (Lifescape)
Flamborough Head Nightlife One for the Crow
(Cyclops)
Spock's Beard Beware of Darkness Beware of Darkness
(Radiant)
Yes Your Is No Disgrace The Yes Album (Atlantic)
* = exerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)
I return to the AM/FM Show in two weeks on April 12.
Bill
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6 am.
Host of Afterglow on WMUH every Thursday morning from 8:00 to 9:30.
http://soundscapes.us/~bill/amfm
http://soundscapes.us/~bill/afterglow
Listen on-line to WMUH at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click REAL
AUDIO
Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show.
Thursdays at
11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in
Easton and
Phillipsburg. http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic All times are
GMT-5:00
Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN
To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, go to
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Group!]
Personal site: http://soundscapes.us/~bill All times are
GMT-5:00
SOUNDSCAPES Concert Series: http://soundscapes.us
From:
'Darren Fricker'
Date: Sun Mar 30, 2003 6:58
am
Subject: Looking for TT3, SHN trade
My branch has let me down for the above [not replied to my emails at
all] so I want to trade with someone for all the TT3 shows [vols 17-
26 I believe] in SHN format [ie, original SHNs, not audio copies that
you've compressed yourself].
I'm in the UK and, for reasons of postage, would prefer to trade with
someone in the UK or mainland Europe.
Contact me offlist if you think you can help and I'll fwd you my
tradelist.
Cheers.
Darren.
From:
'omegatransfinito'
Date: Sun Mar 30, 2003 7:51
am
Subject: Re: curious
> I've found a funny web site featuring TS stuff in mp3 format :
http://www.transcd.com/artist/909.html
>
> Antarktis is included in the best of, isn't this strange ? And
there is a lot of artists in this site...
Hey, it _is_ good, though not probably my pick at The Best
Bootleg.
They seem to be pretty well-informed anyway. Sorcerer is listed
as 1975, the composing date, rather than 1977, the release
date; ditto for Green Desert, The Park Is Mine and Antique
Dreams -they even knew that Phaedra of Nottingham is not from
1990, but 1988!
John Vertical
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From:
'Paul Dryden'
Date: Sat Mar 29, 2003 9:08
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] birthday greetings from UPI
Hang on Chris Franke isn't 61!!!!!
the're 10 years out on this one!!!!!!
PAulus.d
----- Original Message -----
From: '_ponder_'
To:
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:23 PM
Subject: [tadream] birthday greetings from UPI
> http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030327-033408-3990r
>
> Today's musical milestones:
>
>
> (April 4)
>
> Today's birthdays include Muddy Waters, whose real name was
> McKinley Morganfield, who was born in 1915; Hugh Masekela in
> 1939 (age 64); Major Lance in 1941 (age 62); Tangerine
> Dream's Christoph Franke in 1942 (age 61); Berry Oakley of the
> Allman Brothers Band was born in 1948; Gail Davies was also
> born in 1948 (age 55); Steve Gatlin of the Gatlin Brothers in 1951
> (age 52); Slade guitarist Dave Hill and Peter Haycock of the
> Climax Blues Band, both in 1952 (age 51); Motley Crue guitarist
> Mick Mars, whose real name is Bob Deal, in 1955 (age 48); and
> Deacon Blue guitarist Graeme Kelling in 1957 (age 46).
>
>
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> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
From:
Björn Sip
Date: Sun Mar 30, 2003 4:23
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Digest Number 1751
Maybe it´s the town or region where Salvator Dali lived years ago. I´ve read
that Edgar and members of Pink Floyd lived in his community for some shorter
or longer periods. And if so, the pupils still will learn about this in
school.
Just an idea!
Björn
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Subject: [tadream] Digest Number 1751
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There are 14 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. hard-edged e-music
From: 'fozziebear'
2. TD enigma
From: Jorge Figueiredo
3. Miracle Mile on FLIX tonight
From: 'dweller_benthos'
4. Re: TD enigma
From: 'John Vertical'
5. curious
From: Frédéric Yargui
6. Re: (OT) Can anyone recommend Klaus Schulze's Contemporary weorks
Vol 1 ???
From: René Brenner
7. Re: TD enigma
From: Antonio Nunes
8. Re: monitor mixes
From: Chris Richards
9. Re: TD enigma
From: Jorge Figueiredo
10. Re: Air Sculpture live at the National Space Centre
From: 'vic rek'
11. The AM/FM Show Playlist for March 29, 2003.
From: 'Bill Fox'
12. Looking for TT3, SHN trade
From: 'Darren Fricker'
13. Re: curious
From: 'omegatransfinito'
14. Re: birthday greetings from UPI
From: 'Paul Dryden'
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
Message: 1
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 18:03:08 -0000
From: 'fozziebear'
Subject: hard-edged e-music
I would include Frank Herbert by KS
David
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 18:38:59 +0000
From: Jorge Figueiredo
Subject: TD enigma
I've this enigmatic story for you:
The Place: Lousã, a small town (15000 habitants) in the centre of
Portugal.
The Context: an English class for 10-11 year old pupils.
The Teacher asks: What are your favourite singers / bands?
4 of the 20 pupils answer: Tangerine Dream!
(other enigmatic answers were Pink Floyd)
How can you explain this (true!) story?
I will give the correct answer in a few days...
Note: there are no prizes involved. :-)
Regards,
Jorge Figueiredo
((> Vangelis - Blade Runner Esper Edition <))
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
Message: 3
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 14:40:59 -0000
From: 'dweller_benthos'
Subject: Miracle Mile on FLIX tonight
Miracle Mile will be on the cable movie channel FLIX tonight,
Saturday, March 29, at 10:30 PM EST. Maybe I'll take a trip out today
and see if I can pick up the soundtrack CD, don't have that one...
(written 3-29-03 9:40 AM EST)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
Message: 4
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 21:10:52 +0200
From: 'John Vertical'
Subject: Re: TD enigma
>4 of the 20 pupils answer: Tangerine Dream!
>(other enigmatic answers were Pink Floyd)
>
>How can you explain this (true!) story?
Do you happen to have quadruplets who you've taught to like TD? :-)
John Vertical
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 20:21:06 +0100
From: Frédéric Yargui
Subject: curious
Hello, Dreamers,
I've found a funny web site featuring TS stuff in mp3 format :
http://www.transcd.com/artist/909.html
Antarktis is included in the best of, isn't this strange ? And there is a
lot of artists in this site...
Dream On,
Fred
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
Message: 6
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 20:14:42 -0000
From: René Brenner
Subject: Re: (OT) Can anyone recommend Klaus Schulze's Contemporary weorks
Vol 1 ???
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Richard wrote:
> A quick question to those in the know:
>
> I have quite a few of Klaus Schulze's albums including Contemporary
> Works Vol 2 which I find interesting. Can anyone recommend Vol 1 (10
> disc set) or any of the other 10 disc sets?
If you like Contemporary Works Vol. 2 I can strongly recommend you
Vol. 1 because it is somehow better imho especially if you like vocals
and atmospheres.
Regards
René Brenner
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
Message: 7
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 20:42:21 +0000
From: Antonio Nunes
Subject: Re: TD enigma
Jorge Figueiredo wrote:
>
> The Context: an English class for 10-11 year old pupils.
> The Teacher asks: What are your favourite singers / bands?
> 4 of the 20 pupils answer: Tangerine Dream!
> (other enigmatic answers were Pink Floyd)
>
> How can you explain this (true!) story?
I was going to answer that you were the teacher, but then I think your
pupils are a bit older. Maybe these pupils learn English by reading the
tadream list? :-)
Antonio Nunes
np: Pink Floyd - 'In concert' for the BBC
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
Message: 8
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 13:25:36 -0800 (PST)
From: Chris Richards
Subject: Re: monitor mixes
<<>Among the booters' most inventive tactics:
using
wireless radio receivers
>that capture signals sent to the in-ear monitors
musicians wear to hear
>one another onstage. Fans can record a pristine
feed of the entire show
>from outside the venue.>>
Except that monitor mixes are usually completely
different from soundboard mixes. It was once
noted that tapes made from the Grateful Dead's
monitor feeds revealed that each band member had
his own instrument turned up way loud in his own
mix with everyone else turned way down. I think
it's the guy who ran that their monitor board who
said that they were very 'egocentric' with their
monitor mixes.
=====
May you never thirst!
The Scuba Diver Presently Known As Chris
'What do you get when you give a yo-yo to a flock of flamingos?'-James Earl
Jones
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 22:30:03 +0000
From: Jorge Figueiredo
Subject: Re: TD enigma
No, I'm not the teacher and, John, I haven't quadruplets. The teacher is
a friend of mine and is not a TD fan.
Regards,
Jorge Figueiredo
On 3/29/2003 8:42 PM, Antonio Nunes wrote:
>
> I was going to answer that you were the teacher, but then I think your
> pupils are a bit older. Maybe these pupils learn English by reading the
> tadream list? :-)
>
> Antonio Nunes
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 23:21:50 -0500
From: 'vic rek'
Subject: Re: Air Sculpture live at the National Space Centre
From: 'Mat Mckenzie'
Subject: [tadream] Air Sculpture live at the National Space Centre
> Speaking of concerts...........
>
> Anyone thinking of going to see 'Air Sculpture' live at the National Space
Centre, Leicester, UK April 5th ?
They will also be at the Ricochet Gathering at the Mojave Desert, California
from April 25-39th. Check out www.ricochetdream.com or you can contact me
for more information, including a subscription pack.
Also here is a trivia question I heard on the radio. 'What is the name of
the Canadian Space Agency?'
Only about 16% of Canadians got it right.
Vic
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 00:47:46 -0500
From: 'Bill Fox'
Subject: The AM/FM Show Playlist for March 29, 2003.
[ Best viewed using a fixed spacing font. ]
The Saturday AM/FM Show is hosted every other week by Bill Fox who plays
electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of
other
genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM
and
on the internet. Send me comments if you love or hate what I played. I
also
host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am.
I played the music of vidnaObmana who will perform at the next Soundscapes
Concert Series on April 19, at Bethlehem's IceHouse on Sand Island. I
also
played the music of Vir Unis and James Johnson who will play at the
Gathering
Gathering on April 12 at St. Mary's Hamilton Village in Philadelphia.
I played
the music od Matt Borghi and Jason Sloan who will be on the same bill as
vidnaObmana at the Gate to Moonbase Alpha on April 18 at the Rotunda in
Philadelphia.
The Soundscapes Concert Series - http://soundscapes.us
The Gatherings Concert Series - http://thegatherings.org
Gate to Moonbase Alpha - http://www.foundationarts.org
Show #20 March 29, 2003.
PLAYLIST:
Phase I/Space:
ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label)
======================= ========================
==============================
vidnaObmana Over Blue Mountains Twilight of Perception
(Projekt)
Matt Borghi A Name Elegy for Time (Space for
Music)
Vir Unis and Metabolizing Starlight Perimeter (In the Bubble
Music
James Johnson Directly and Zero Music)
Jason Sloan Solidification for a A Quiet Return (Grey Area
Quiet Return Studio Recordings)
Jurgen Haible Open Corridor Holiday in Purgatory
(none)
Phase II/Eclectic:
ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label)
======================= ========================
==============================
VA [Enrapture] Where She Ends (and I The Violet Collection:
Charity
Begin) Compilation (MP3.COM)
Chuck Offut and Song of the Earth Balance of Nature (Equity
Michael Dulin Digital)
Tommy Emmanuel Those Who Wait Only (Favored Nations
Acoustic)
Adrian Legg Jam Tomorrow Guitar Bones (Favored
Nations
Acoustic)
Throat Culture Easter Island Head Acappella Head (none)
Phase III/Progressive Rock:
ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label)
======================= ========================
==============================
Pigs and Pyramids Comfortably Numb Un Voyage En Progressif
Volume 8 (Musea)
Alaska Two Shades of Grey Alaska (Lifescape)
Flamborough Head Nightlife One for the Crow
(Cyclops)
Spock's Beard Beware of Darkness Beware of Darkness
(Radiant)
Yes Your Is No Disgrace The Yes Album (Atlantic)
* = exerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)
I return to the AM/FM Show in two weeks on April 12.
Bill
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Host of the AM/FM Show on WMUH Allentown 91.7 FM every other Saturday at
6 am.
Host of Afterglow on WMUH every Thursday morning from 8:00 to 9:30.
http://soundscapes.us/~bill/amfm
http://soundscapes.us/~bill/afterglow
Listen on-line to WMUH at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click REAL
AUDIO
Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show.
Thursdays at
11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in
Easton and
Phillipsburg. http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic All times are
GMT-5:00
Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN
To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, go to
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emusic-wdiy and click on [Join This
Group!]
Personal site: http://soundscapes.us/~bill All times are
GMT-5:00
SOUNDSCAPES Concert Series: http://soundscapes.us
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 07:58:21 +0100
From: 'Darren Fricker'
Subject: Looking for TT3, SHN trade
My branch has let me down for the above [not replied to my emails at
all] so I want to trade with someone for all the TT3 shows [vols 17-
26 I believe] in SHN format [ie, original SHNs, not audio copies that
you've compressed yourself].
I'm in the UK and, for reasons of postage, would prefer to trade with
someone in the UK or mainland Europe.
Contact me offlist if you think you can help and I'll fwd you my
tradelist.
Cheers.
Darren.
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 07:51:05 -0000
From: 'omegatransfinito'
Subject: Re: curious
> I've found a funny web site featuring TS stuff in mp3 format :
http://www.transcd.com/artist/909.html
>
> Antarktis is included in the best of, isn't this strange ? And
there is a lot of artists in this site...
Hey, it _is_ good, though not probably my pick at The Best
Bootleg.
They seem to be pretty well-informed anyway. Sorcerer is listed
as 1975, the composing date, rather than 1977, the release
date; ditto for Green Desert, The Park Is Mine and Antique
Dreams -they even knew that Phaedra of Nottingham is not from
1990, but 1988!
John Vertical
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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 21:08:41 -0000
From: 'Paul Dryden'
Subject: Re: birthday greetings from UPI
Hang on Chris Franke isn't 61!!!!!
the're 10 years out on this one!!!!!!
PAulus.d
----- Original Message -----
From: '_ponder_'
To:
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:23 PM
Subject: [tadream] birthday greetings from UPI
> http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030327-033408-3990r
>
> Today's musical milestones:
>
>
> (April 4)
>
> Today's birthdays include Muddy Waters, whose real name was
> McKinley Morganfield, who was born in 1915; Hugh Masekela in
> 1939 (age 64); Major Lance in 1941 (age 62); Tangerine
> Dream's Christoph Franke in 1942 (age 61); Berry Oakley of the
> Allman Brothers Band was born in 1948; Gail Davies was also
> born in 1948 (age 55); Steve Gatlin of the Gatlin Brothers in 1951
> (age 52); Slade guitarist Dave Hill and Peter Haycock of the
> Climax Blues Band, both in 1952 (age 51); Motley Crue guitarist
> Mick Mars, whose real name is Bob Deal, in 1955 (age 48); and
> Deacon Blue guitarist Graeme Kelling in 1957 (age 46).
>
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From:
shez@a...
Date: Sun Mar 30, 2003 4:46
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Guilty secrets / DEPECHE MODE
>
>to try and get this thread on topic, wouldn't it be cool if TD could
>do some DM covers as encores for their shows?
I don't see why TD would have to pay tribute to a band which started
nearly 16 years after them.
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From:
'kayleighsdaddy'
Date: Sun Mar 30, 2003 6:55
pm
Subject: Boot collection
Hey all, THANKS for the overwhelming response to the Tangerine Dream boot
collection. I have TT 1, TT 2 and am working on getting TT 3 (thank God for
broadband connection)(GRIN), and have about 40 of so boots in my collection.
How long have I been a fan? About 8 years or so, and the ONLY opportunity I had
to see TD live was when they cancelled their tour due to the 9-11 fiasco here.
Sadly enough, I have never seen them live (and would dearly love to). I've
given serious consideration to traveling overseas to see them, TRYING to link
it about the same time Fish and Marillion are touring around the same
approximate time, figure if I COULD make it and see all three bands at
different times on a vacation, makes it worth it :) I can't afford to do THREE
vacations like that (GRIN), so why not try to hit it all at once. But so far,
no live shows from TD (SIGH) in concert, just fortunate to have obtained a boot
collection that keeps growing.
thanks for the responses!
dan
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http://www.iloverugrats.com
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From:
Gustavo Jobim
Date: Sun Mar 30, 2003 8:40
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Air Sculpture live at the National Space Centre
>They will also be at the Ricochet Gathering at the Mojave Desert, California
>from April 25-39th.
25-39th ? wow, two weeks.
that will be one long gathering ;o)
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http://www.gustavojobim.hpg.com.br
gustavojobim@s...
From:
'Admin'
Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 3:45
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Bootleggers, roll your DATs!
I am not sure I would want some of that monitor back.
Most bands I do sound for have me run special monitors back to them, like
the guitar player might request me to provide a monitor just for him, the
drummer a keyboard tone down mix, the singer a no drum mix and so forth. Hey
now that was just for reference and not a band by band mix either. I have
had all kinds. What I pointing out is that mix isn't always the whole thing.
Wireless or not. I even had some bands stand in front of the mains and play.
They wanted to get the feel...
Dale
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----- Original Message -----
From: 'Morgan Feldon'
To:
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 12:28 AM
Subject: [tadream] Bootleggers, roll your DATs!
> I thought the timing appropriate...
> http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.04/play.html?pg=4
>
>
> >Fans have traded live bootlegs for decades ('Got that 'Dark Star' from
> >Cleveland '73?'). But the tech - gadgets like laptop recorders, portable
> >DAT players, and pen-sized microphones, as well as distribution methods
> >like SHNapster and FTP servers - keeps getting better....'It becomes,
'How
> >much time do I have in the day to burn it?'' says John Bartol, a
> >35-year-old IT consultant from Alexandria, Virginia, who has been taping
> >and trading concerts since 1984. 'There's always more to grab.'
> >
> >Among the booters' most inventive tactics: using wireless radio receivers
> >that capture signals sent to the in-ear monitors musicians wear to hear
> >one another onstage. Fans can record a pristine feed of the entire show
> >from outside the venue.
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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From:
'Admin'
Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 3:47
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Suspicious auction on Ebay
'Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition', except me.
;-)
dale
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----- Original Message -----
From: 'Klaus Beschorner'
To: 'tadream list (mod)'
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 1:42 AM
Subject: [tadream] Suspicious auction on Ebay
> Hi all,
>
> I won't quote anybody on the negative side of my remarks, because
> I will use irony and exaggeration to make my point as clear as
> possible:
>
> I am appalled at how easily people turn into inquisitors,
> Blockwart, Stasi-Spitzel (you name your branch of local denounciator)
> just because it's 'for a good cause'.
>
> Irony and exaggeration end here.
>
> A fair and balanced reaction, in my opinion, would be to ask
> the seller a question. Then report the auction here on this
> list if it's clearly Tangerine Tree (TT) material and he
> won't pull it back himself, or you don't get a
> satisfactory answer.
>
> Then leave it to TDI, as the copyright owner (or believable
> imposter for some older material ;-), to have ebay cancel
> the auction.
>
> Do not report the auction to ebay right away, they will usually
> not do any background checks. They'll just cancel the auction to
> cover their own derrieres. Unless the seller is a real pro,
> that is, a power seller, a good ebay customer. In this case,
> they'll ignore any pleads until the real copyright owner
> speaks up.
>
> Do not accuse people of willful wrongdoings out of the blue.
> Someone might just be selling off the collection of his
> deceased cousin and never have read the 'never sell, only trade'.
> That would hardly make him the scum of the earth in my value system.
> Give people a chance to explain themselves before public
> denounciation and being 'burnt at the stake'.
>
> If the price for TDI's toleration of the TT is that we
> help to keep up the 'never sell, only trade', then this is
> as much 'policing' as I would be willing to.
>
> Nobody has ever asked us to interfere with non-TT material,
> so please let's keep it this way!
>
> klaus
>
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From:
'Admin'
Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 3:50
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] D:Studio [Rockoon]
Do drop me a note when this happens, I will check my copy too then.
;-)
dale
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----- Original Message -----
From: 'Gustavo Jobim'
To:
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 6:32 AM
Subject: [tadream] D:Studio [Rockoon]
I had the luck to find Rockoon, which I had never heard before at all, for
a very nice price. of course, I bought it.
at first listen,
my opinion about the music is, usually,
yawwwwn.
(what a difference from 220 volt)
but who knows, with time and other chances.
gj np sigur rós ( )
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From:
'Admin'
Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 3:55
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: monitor mixes
See there you are. If I did not have 300 + emails I might have just waited
to respond earlier. But what is here is so true. Each band I ever had to run
sound for has had different requirements for the mix and I do not think I
would want that as a boot unless you just like that one certain person.
Brings to mind a boot I hear of Wings, Linda McCarthy was the vocalist that
was head the most on it. If anyone else ever heard this one, you know the
rest of the story.
;-)
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----- Original Message -----
From: 'Chris Richards'
To:
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 1:25 PM
Subject: [tadream] Re: monitor mixes
> <<>Among the booters' most inventive tactics:
> using
> wireless radio receivers
> >that capture signals sent to the in-ear monitors
>
> musicians wear to hear
> >one another onstage. Fans can record a pristine
> feed of the entire show
> >from outside the venue.>>
>
> Except that monitor mixes are usually completely
> different from soundboard mixes. It was once
> noted that tapes made from the Grateful Dead's
> monitor feeds revealed that each band member had
> his own instrument turned up way loud in his own
> mix with everyone else turned way down. I think
> it's the guy who ran that their monitor board who
> said that they were very 'egocentric' with their
> monitor mixes.
>
>
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From:
Harry
Date: Sun Mar 30, 2003 11:36
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Columbia Tribute CD
Your post was the most moving story I've seen on the board. Ever!
Thanks for sharing.
Harry
Btw my wife and I have an Ian--he turned 18 today. :-)
From:
'markwbaumann'
Date: Sun Mar 30, 2003 8:10
pm
Subject: New To TT
Hello,
I'm fairly new to this group and to the Tangerine Tree, although
I've participated in trees of other music. I'm curious if anyone
knows of any FTP sites where I might be able to d/l some of the SHN
files for the earlier TT releases.
Please respond off line if you have any ideas.
Thanks for your help.
Mark
From:
TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak
Date: Sun Mar 30, 2003 6:17
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Re: Suspicious auction on Ebay
At 15:53 28.03.03, you wrote:
>If someone has instructions or a URL handy on how to report this sort of
>violation to eBay, please post it on this list for everyone to see. If you
>find stuff like this, please report it here so that multiple people will be
>jumping on eBay.
>
>If eBay's policies do not forbid CDRs or piracy, what would be the way to
>handle it?
>
>
>
>Thanks,
>Joe
>
Hi all,
e-Bay prohibits the sale of any kind of material that implies a copyright
violation or that has not been cleared for sale. This would include:
- bootlegs
- any kind of CD-R
- MP3-files of any sort
and also:
- promotional items that are clearly marked as such.
While we try to kick out boots, CD-R´s and anything involving TD-MP3´s, we
usually 'look the other way' on promos. I have been so busy the past few
weeks, though, that I did not have any time to monitor the e-bay activities.
To report a violation, send an e-mail to vero@e... (for e-Bay Germany:
veri@e...) stating item, item no., seller and type of violation.
Any assistance in monitoring this is, of course, highly appreciated and I
would like to take this opportunity to thank you all so much for taking
this so seriously.
Best regards,
Martin Kasprzak
TDI- Music- Support.
Tel:-49-30-23620995
Fax:-49-30-23620996
Visit our Website at:
http://www.tangerinedream.org
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From:
'billythefish01'
Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 10:16
am
Subject: Release or composition dates?
This reminded me of an ever present problem I have: how to file my
collection?
What do others do? At present, I tend to file mostly in composition
date order as it is nice to dip 'into an era' of sound without
having to search too hard. This can be confusing though though with
re-releases and items such as Sohaman Live, not to mention previous
releases such as The Park is Mine, released 10 years after
composition.
In the early days, I filed everything in order of purchase. This
worked well for a while as it was like a form of Journal - I could
go to a particular era and it would bring back memories of when I
had first heard it.
That idea had to vanish as the collection grew. I suppose if it was
all on my PC I could choose any number of ways of filing it!
TTFN,
BTF
> They seem to be pretty well-informed anyway. Sorcerer is listed
> as 1975, the composing date, rather than 1977, the release
> date; ditto for Green Desert, The Park Is Mine and Antique
> Dreams -they even knew that Phaedra of Nottingham is not from
> 1990, but 1988!
>
> John Vertical
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From:
'ravnnet'
Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 10:35
am
Subject: A nice TD poster
Check http://www.silksatinweb.com/sales/tangerinedreamprints.html
;-)
Peter
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From:
'Greg'
Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 11:25
am
Subject: Rockoon & the Toothache
Pain
Lots of pain..
It's terribly hard to sleep with a mouth of pain shooting from a tooth gone
awry. For some reason.. probably unknown, I decided to play Rockoon as I lay
in bed thinking about pain. Rockoon was an interesting selection as it
initially allowed me to think about pain not as pain, but as signals - or
say triggers. Rockoon is full of twangs and clicks which had a sudden
unforeseen relationship to pulsing pain. My pain was playing Rockoon.. it
triggered the twangs and clicks. Pain became no pain.. I escaped into some
sort of state whereby I was interacting with the performance of music. Then
I fell asleep almost entranced by the experience.
Rockoon is the choice of toothache sufferers the world over.
It serves a purpose after all!
Greg H.
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From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 11:30
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Rockoon & the Toothache
>Rockoon is the choice of toothache sufferers the world over.
>
>It serves a purpose after all!
>
>Greg H.
Hmm. Interesting, very interesting...
Could we also attempt to use Zeit for insomnia? :-D
John Vertical
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From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 11:37
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Release or composition dates?
>What do others do? At present, I tend to file mostly in composition
>date order as it is nice to dip 'into an era' of sound without
>having to search too hard. This can be confusing though though with
>re-releases and items such as Sohaman Live, not to mention previous
>releases such as The Park is Mine, released 10 years after
>composition.
>
>In the early days, I filed everything in order of purchase. This
>worked well for a while as it was like a form of Journal - I could
>go to a particular era and it would bring back memories of when I
>had first heard it.
>
>That idea had to vanish as the collection grew. I suppose if it was
>all on my PC I could choose any number of ways of filing it!
>
>TTFN,
>
>BTF
I currently have mine filed by catalog number. All my Virgin records are in
one row, then all my TDI records, TT is sitting on a shelf of its own, other
CDRs have their one bunch etc.
The relative order of these bunches is somewhat random, though.
I do keep a journal of what have I acquired and when - last year I got 61 TD
disks. Not too much, but well enough.
John Vertical
np: Through Metamorphic Rocks - been a while since I last played this.
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From:
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Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 11:48
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Rockoon & the Toothache
> >Rockoon is the choice of toothache sufferers the world over.
> >
> >It serves a purpose after all!
> >
> >Greg H.
>
>
> Hmm. Interesting, very interesting...
>
> Could we also attempt to use Zeit for insomnia? :-D
>
> John Vertical
>
>
Rubycon Pt. 1 is great for creating insomnia! It is pure torture music for
when I just want to relax. Ricochet also has a knack for relaxing me then
making be jump up screaming and trying to turn it down. Tangerine dreams are
not full of lollipops and multi-colored mushrooms no matter what anyone
says.
NP: Nuspirit Helsinki - Seis Por Ocho
Greg H.
From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 11:48
am
Subject: Seasonal samplers
Hello people,
I'm compiling 'The Five Seasons' TD samplers - yes, that's 'five', not
'four'. I'm splicing summer and autumn onto 3 disks, sort of Green, Yellow
and Brown; - but at the moment I have a problem. I can't think of enough
things to put on the Spring disk. So far I have:
Marakesh
Cherokee Lane
Silver Scale
and nothing else.
The first summer disk is also acting up. The list is 87 minutes by now, but
I'm not sure what should I discard:
Beach Theme
Logos, 'Velvet Part' (unremixed)
Song Of The Whale Part 2
Sad Merlin's Sunday
Paradise Cove
Summer Storm
Poland, first half; crossfading into -->
Mothers of Rain
Sailing Mission
San Buena Ventura (ie. the last section of Livemiles: Albuquerque Concert)
Caspian Sea (the first section of Livemiles: West Berlin Concert)
Heritage Survival
and finally, Flashflood.
So what doesn't belong in?
(In case someone is interested, I can also list the 3 finished disks.)
John Vertical
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From:
Mr Paul Dryden
Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 12:26
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Release or composition dates?
>
Hi guys, what is THe Park is mine? and Phaedra of Notingham?
Paulus.d
This reminded me of an ever present problem I have: how to file my
> collection?
>
> What do others do? At present, I tend to file mostly in composition
> date order as it is nice to dip 'into an era' of sound without
> having to search too hard. This can be confusing though though with
> re-releases and items such as Sohaman Live, not to mention previous
> releases such as The Park is Mine, released 10 years after
> composition.
>
> In the early days, I filed everything in order of purchase. This
> worked well for a while as it was like a form of Journal - I could
> go to a particular era and it would bring back memories of when I
> had first heard it.
>
> That idea had to vanish as the collection grew. I suppose if it was
> all on my PC I could choose any number of ways of filing it!
>
> TTFN,
>
> BTF
>
>
> > They seem to be pretty well-informed anyway. Sorcerer is listed
> > as 1975, the composing date, rather than 1977, the release
> > date; ditto for Green Desert, The Park Is Mine and Antique
> > Dreams -they even knew that Phaedra of Nottingham is not from
> > 1990, but 1988!
> >
> > John Vertical
>
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Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 12:34
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Subject: Re: [tadream] A nice TD poster
hey, due to the name of the website I suppose that this could
be an image you don't want to appear on your screen while you're
at work? I quit my job anyway in 6 weeks, but I don't want to
get fired beforehand...
a.
ravnnet wrote:
> Check http://www.silksatinweb.com/sales/tangerinedreamprints.html
> ;-)
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From:
Antonio Nunes
Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 1:03
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Release or composition dates?
Mr Paul Dryden wrote:
>
> Hi guys, what is THe Park is mine? and Phaedra of Notingham?
'The Park is mine' is a soundtrack. 'Phaedra of Nottingham' is a live
version of Phaedra included in the album 'Antique Dreams'.
Antonio Nunes
np: Can Atilla - Live
From:
quarlie@a...
Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 3:09
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Rockoon & the Toothache
'Greg' wrote:
>Rubycon Pt. 1 is great for creating insomnia! It is pure torture music for
>when I just want to relax.
It's funny how different people react differently to music. Rubycon is
definitely intense, but I nonetheless find it easy to drift off and relax to it.
--Daniel
NP: Gamma Ray - No World Order
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From:
'dweller_benthos'
Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 3:15
pm
Subject: Re: classic tree
hmmmm.... Classic Tree huh? Not to sound like a broken record, but is
this available somehow, somewhere?
From:
'dweller_benthos'
Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 2:43
pm
Subject: Re: Release or composition dates?
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'billythefish01'
wrote:
> That idea had to vanish as the collection grew. I suppose if it was
> all on my PC I could choose any number of ways of filing it!
>
> TTFN,
>
> BTF
I use a program called Music Collector from Collectorz.com, you put
the CD in your CD ROM drive, it scans it and contacts Gracenote CDDB
to find out if it's listed there, and then fills in all the info it
finds on it. You can then customize other info and categorize a
zillion ways from Sunday. Neat prog and not too expensive.
Some of the bootlegs are listed on CDDB, some not. You also run into
the problem that anyone can upload to CDDB and you get all sorts of
errors, from typos to wrong track names and release dates. I think
when the next Tree is released, if there is going to be one, there
should be one person who uploads the info to CDDB (and other
cataloging sites) so that results are consistent and in a format
agreed upon by those involved.
Just a thought.
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From:
'Sean Montgomery'
Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 4:44
pm
Subject: Re: Release or composition dates?
I feel your pain on this one. I've been ripping my entire TD
collection to MP3 files over the past few months, and have been filing
everything into folders organized by year. The policy I've been
keeping is to file by composition date, unless the piece was
overdubbed or changed in some fashion, in which case it goes into the
folder for the year in which those changes took place. So Deadly Care
- which was not overdubbed for release - gets filed under 1987 (even
though it didn't get released until 1992), while TDI's version of the
Keep goes in 1997, because the original material was overhauled by the
band in that year. This way, it's easier to follow the band's
stylistic, personnel, and equipment changes over the years. The only
grey area are the bonus tracks from 'The Melrose Years', and Dream
Roots. Even though we know when they were originally composed, I go
on the assumption that they were tweaked for release...so they got
filed by release date.
I've been relying on http://www.voices-in-the-net.de and
http://www.algonet.se/~jonwar/td.html to help me with dating things.
From:
Kevin
Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 4:50
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Rockoon & the Toothache
I have to agree about how people respond differently to the same TD pieces.
Last night, about 12 ( U.S. Central Standard Time), I WAS listening to Rubycon
Part 1 to get to sleep.......it worked too! What an amazing album......
By the way, this is my first submission. I am new to the mailing list. I love
it!
Kevin
quarlie@a... wrote:'Greg' wrote:
>Rubycon Pt. 1 is great for creating insomnia! It is pure torture music for
>when I just want to relax.
It's funny how different people react differently to music. Rubycon is
definitely intense, but I nonetheless find it easy to drift off and relax to it.
--Daniel
NP: Gamma Ray - No World Order
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From:
'fozziebear'
Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 5:40
pm
Subject: Release or composition date?
Billythefish said This reminded me of an ever present problem I have: how to
file my collection?
I gave up on this one some time ago. Mine are spread over the house near CD
players, near computers, at work, in different cities, in my friend's players,
except one. His place is like the Bermuda Triangle, so nothing goes there!
And if a certain person who shall remain nameless owned Concorde she would lose
it in the wardrobe!
David
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From:
Frédéric Yargui
Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 6:07
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Rockoon & the Toothache
Hello Dreamers,
It's very interesting such a topic, since I believe in one hand every people
is different and on the other hand disease is created by mind. So controling
our mind may lead us to control our health. I study how, by its
representation in mind (someones say 'visualisation' but the brain does not
only functiun with visual parts) one can control his / her inner parts of
the body. Pain control is an application. Harmony or distress can be other
ones. Especially getting in trance with tools like EM I find interesting and
there are some pieces I played and recorded myself I personnally use to get
in some kind of trance which helps me then to get in some particular...
state of mind. I think sequencers create some kinds of trance. Klaus Schulze
and Steve Roach I find too much repetitve and for me this has the strange
effet of getting me *out* of the trance. TD on the contrary has the good
level (to me I repeat ;o)
I'm looking forward reading more about this (on or off list if you find this
too much irrationnal or never experimented such a thing).
Best Regards,
Fred
np : silence
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Kevin'
To:
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Rockoon & the Toothache
>
> I have to agree about how people respond differently to the same TD
pieces. Last night, about 12 ( U.S. Central Standard Time), I WAS listening
to Rubycon Part 1 to get to sleep.......it worked too! What an amazing
album......
> By the way, this is my first submission. I am new to the mailing list. I
love it!
> Kevin
> quarlie@a... wrote:'Greg' wrote:
>
> >Rubycon Pt. 1 is great for creating insomnia! It is pure torture music
for
> >when I just want to relax.
>
> It's funny how different people react differently to music. Rubycon is
definitely intense, but I nonetheless find it easy to drift off and relax to
it.
>
> --Daniel
> NP: Gamma Ray - No World Order
>>
From:
Frédéric Yargui
Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 6:18
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Release or composition dates?
> I've been relying on http://www.voices-in-the-net.de and
> http://www.algonet.se/~jonwar/td.html to help me with dating things.
>
>
I think it would be nice to complete the listing of the other site you
mention, I find it more practical than the presentation of the composotions
in voices in the net...
Any volunteer to share the work ?
Best Regards,
Fred
From:
'tei waz'
Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 7:20
pm
Subject: bootleg in-ear monitors....
> >Among the booters' most inventive tactics: using wireless radio receivers
> >that capture signals sent to the in-ear monitors musicians wear to hear
> >one another onstage. Fans can record a pristine feed of the entire show
> >from outside the venue.
a lot of bands have various radio frequencies that they use for whatever.
and the dead's sound guy--healey used to broadcast some shows. if you were
savvy you could set your radio to it and tape the show that way, but
hey--there's plenty to be said for shows that include audience reaction,
too--not just sterile soundboards that may not be mixed well for
release....but anyway, I think we covered this thread several months ago.
--T
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From:
'tei waz'
Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 7:26
pm
Subject: (dis)organizing music
lessee, at this point my collection works like this--if the artist starts
with A it goes in A, B in B, C in C and so on. It doesn't get anymore
organized than that anymore. Actually, I have the alphabet split somewhat
between units so some A is at the top or one shelf unit and some at the top
of the other. Except I've run out of space again ;)
Way beyond time to get another unit--and some more wall space....
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From:
Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 7:56
pm
Subject: Cut and Paste
Cut and Paste, People; Cut and Paste!! As much as I love each and every one
of you, and this list as a whole, I would prefer not to have to read entire
digests twice.
;-)
Tanx
In God's Love
Neal
'You can't take it with you -
but you CAN send it on ahead - Give.'
Pastor Tom Mullins
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From:
'Administrator'
Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 8:02
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Cut and Paste
How about copy and paste? Cut is so destructive.
;-)
dale
----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 11:56 AM
Subject: [tadream] Cut and Paste
> Cut and Paste, People; Cut and Paste!! As much as I love each and every
one
> of you, and this list as a whole, I would prefer not to have to read
entire
> digests twice.
>
> ;-)
>
> Tanx
> In God's Love
> Neal
>
>
> 'You can't take it with you -
> but you CAN send it on ahead - Give.'
> Pastor Tom Mullins
From:
Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 8:24
pm
Subject: Release or composition dates?
Just my $0.02 worth, but my ENTIRE music collection is alphabetical. Then,
within each alphabetical artists listing, it is in order of composition
date.....sort of.
This is easy with most artists. I have a lot of b**tlegs in my collection, so
it is easy to do by concert date. But with TD, this is a little more
complicated. Most things are catalogued by composition dates. All of the Keep
CD I have are dated in the 1982 area. Whether original boots from members of
the list, or 'Tangetized' official releases by the Dream. Official compilations
are by release date. Duncan's compilations are by the date of the most recent
song represented. All of the TDI releases are in order of release (which in
most cases is also catalogue numerical order). The REAL Sohomom boot comes
after the TDI Sohomon release. The different Klangart boots come after Mars
Polaris for obvious reasons. Shepherds Bush Empire comes after DMIII. The
Inferno concert boot comes after the TDI Inferno release.
Hope all this helps. It works for me.....mostly.
Neal
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Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 16:37:33 -0000
From: 'Sean Montgomery'
Subject: Re: Release or composition dates?
I feel your pain on this one. I've been ripping my entire TD
collection to MP3 files over the past few months, and have been filing
everything into folders organized by year. The policy I've been
keeping is to file by composition date, unless the piece was
overdubbed or changed in some fashion, in which case it goes into the
folder for the year in which those changes took place. So Deadly Care
- which was not overdubbed for release - gets filed under 1987 (even
though it didn't get released until 1992), while TDI's version of the
Keep goes in 1997, because the original material was overhauled by the
band in that year. This way, it's easier to follow the band's
stylistic, personnel, and equipment changes over the years.
I've been relying on http://www.voices-in-the-net.com and
http://www.algonet.se/~jonwar/td.html to help me with dating things.
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From:
Jorge Figueiredo
Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 9:27
pm
Subject: TD enigma solution
The explanation for the story is very simple. That's why I had to try
some suspense. ;-)
Björn, you weren't very far from the solution, except in geographic
terms: Dali lived in Spain, not Portugal. But it has to do with a community.
There is, since the late 70s, a large hippie community living in 2 or 3
small villages in the surrounding mountainous area of Lousã, formed
mainly by Dutch and German. They are by now completely integrated in the
town's everyday life and the hippie second generation has reached the
public schools. That class in particular has some of these students.
Their musical preferences seem to be determined by what they listen at
home, hence the peculiar tastes (most of them confess to hate pop music
flavour-of-the-month). I'm sure that their favourite TD period would be
the Virgin Years. ;-)
This story has a particular importance for me. I knew of other
portuguese TD fans, but António Nunes is a bit far away (1200 Kms). Now
there is a bunch of them 25 kms away from me. :-)
Regards,
Jorge Figueiredo
(( TD - Astoria Theatre, London, February 15th, 2003 <))
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From:
'tei waz'
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 12:01
am
Subject: re: the real ruling the waves
wasn't it a week or two ago now that the 'real' ruling the waves was gonna
be posted in mp3 format on the .org site?
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From:
Morgan Feldon
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 2:09
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Release or composition dates?
>Hi guys, what is THe Park is mine? and Phaedra of Notingham?
>Paulus.d
The Park is Mine is a TD soundtrack to a film with Tommy Lee Jones.
Phaedra of Nottingham is a brief remixed segment of Phaedra, as played at
most of the 1988-2001 TD concerts. The particular version in question on
Antique Dreams is from 1988 and bizarrely includes several seconds
Livemiles Albq. part, movement 2.
-Morgan
From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 7:34
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Rockoon & the Toothache
>It's very interesting such a topic, since I believe in one hand every
>people
>is different and on the other hand disease is created by mind. So
>controling
>our mind may lead us to control our health. I study how, by its
>representation in mind (someones say 'visualisation' but the brain does not
>only functiun with visual parts) one can control his / her inner parts of
>the body. Pain control is an application. Harmony or distress can be other
>ones.
It is a known fact that your thoughts can affect your healing, even greatly
(take the placebo effect for example), but diseases are not *created* by the
mind. You cannot get malaria without a malaria infection, or a heart attack
without any problems in the blood circulation... aluckily.
Of course, there're the psychosomatic symptoms, too, but they're not that
common.
>Especially getting in trance with tools like EM I find interesting and
>there are some pieces I played and recorded myself I personnally use to get
>in some kind of trance which helps me then to get in some particular...
>state of mind. I think sequencers create some kinds of trance. Klaus
>Schulze
>and Steve Roach I find too much repetitve and for me this has the strange
>effet of getting me *out* of the trance. TD on the contrary has the good
>level (to me I repeat ;o)
>
>I'm looking forward reading more about this (on or off list if you find
>this
>too much irrationnal or never experimented such a thing).
>
>Best Regards,
>
>Fred
>
>np : silence
BTW, the so-called 'trance' or 'hypnose' state is not a non-conscious state,
even though some think othervise. It's actually just a feeling, if a rather
strange one though. There has been no evidence of brainwaves becoming
different, as it does in sleep.
-To keep this even barely on topic: I once played Michael Hoening's
Departure From The Nothern Wasteland to my father... he said it resembles
some sort of an artistic transcription of brainwaves.
John Vertical
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From:
Armin Theissen
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 9:42
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] (dis)organizing music
I also stick to the alphabet, but make a difference between stuff
you have to go to a so-called 'classic' section to and the rest.
The reason for that is that 'classical' music is usually performed
by musician(s) which are not the composer(s), and of course has
usually different interpreters. Everything else is usually tightly
bound to the composer, otherwise its a 'cover' version and something
completely different.
a.
tei waz wrote:
> lessee, at this point my collection works like this--if the artist starts
> with A it goes in A, B in B, C in C and so on. It doesn't get anymore
> organized than that anymore. Actually, I have the alphabet split somewhat
> between units so some A is at the top or one shelf unit and some at the top
> of the other. Except I've run out of space again ;)
> Way beyond time to get another unit--and some more wall space....
>
>
>
>
>
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From:
Armin Theissen
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 9:48
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Rockoon & the Toothache
This can also depend on something you happened to do or
experience while listening to a track. One hot
sunny day I overtook a very shiny chrome truck on a
long straight road somewhere between Madrid and Zaragoza,
and had Dr. Destructo in the car stereo. Since then,
I am in danger of a speed frenzy with this track... ;-)
a.
Kevin wrote:
> I have to agree about how people respond differently to the same TD
> pieces. Last night, about 12 ( U.S. Central Standard Time), I WAS
> listening to Rubycon Part 1 to get to sleep.......it worked too!
> What an amazing album...... By the way, this is my first
> submission. I am new to the mailing list. I love it! Kevin
quarlie@a...
> wrote:'Greg' wrote:
>
>
>> Rubycon Pt. 1 is great for creating insomnia! It is pure torture
>> music for when I just want to relax.
>>
>
> It's funny how different people react differently to music. Rubycon
> is definitely intense, but I nonetheless find it easy to drift off
> and relax to it.
>
> --Daniel NP: Gamma Ray - No World Order
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From:
'Bill Fox'
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 12:42
pm
Subject: vidnaObmana at the Soundscapes Concert Series
The Soundscapes Concert Series
proudly presents
vidnaObmana
in an all ages concert of space music
at the City of Bethlehem's IceHouse on Sand Island
56 River Street West
Bethlehem, Pennsylvania
Saturday, April 19, 2003
Concert at 8:00 pm, doors open at 7:30 pm
FREE Buffet Dinner by Chef Jeff
Tickets: $17 in advance and $20 at the door.
Soundscapes #4 is coproduced by WDS Productions and
Wooden Shoe Music.
For the fourth installment of the Soundscapes Concert Series, vidnaObmana will
perform a unique concert at the City of Bethlehem's IceHouse on Sand Island.
Located in historic Bethlehem on the north bank of the Lehigh River, the
IceHouse is a perfect venue for a concert of spacemusic. This concert will be
on Saturday, April 19, 2003, starting at 8:00 pm. The doors will open at 7:30
pm and Chef Jeff will cater a free buffet dinner. Tickets are $17 in advance
and $20 at the door. Advance tickets are be available at:
Compact Disc Center Speedy's Record Shop
1365 Easton Ave. 1001 Union Blvd.
Bethlehem, Pennsylvania Allentown, Pennsylvania
610-868-3070 610-432-8386
and on-line at:
http://electro-music.com
NOTE: Tickets purchased at the door will be discounted by $3 for those who show
their WDIY or WMUH membersip cards or their full time student ID.
INFORMATION:
http://soundscapes.us
CONTACT:
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VIDNAOBMANA:
Ambient musician vidnaObmana is one of spacemusic's brightest stars. Using
synthesizers, audio processors, and a vast array of exotic instruments, Belgian
electronic musician vidnaObmana creates a complex, layered musical journey
through rhythms, timbres, loops, and sonic atmospheres. The name vidnaObmana
means 'optical illusion' in Servo-Croation, a term he picked up while
vacationing in Croatia during his childhood. He chose this phrase as his
musical persona to illustrate how his music correlates sonically with the
surreal soundscapes he creates. vidnaObmana is a prolific composer whose
diverse body of work ranges from post-industrial through gently atmospheric, to
tribal ambient and more. His music slowly shifts through electronic audio
imagery, creating extremely personal works of atmospheric delight.
Throughout his career, vidnaObmana has explored the abrasive side of electronic
composition, using freeform soundscapes, international music traditions, and
post-classical experimentations. His music has been released widely by many
independent labels worldwide, including: Release/Relapse, Amplexus, Extreme,
Hypnos, Mirage, Multimood, Projekt and others. A significant portion of
vidnaObmana's work has been realized in collaboration with some of the world's
most interesting musicians such as Alio Die, Jeff Pearce, Steve Roach, Djen
Ajakan Shean, Asmus Tietchens, and Brannan Lane.
FLIER:
A concert flier is available for download at
http://soundscapes.us/concert flier.pdf You are encouraged to take an active
role in the health of the electronic music scene by printing, displaying, and
distributing this flier. Forwarding of this email message helps, too!
ROBERT RICH:
Robert Rich will come to the Soundscapes Concert Series on Saturday, July 12,
2003. Tickets will be $20 at the door and $17 in advance (on sale starting
April 20). Tickets for the July 12 Robert Rich concert which are purchased at
the April 19 Soundscapes are $15 only for vidnaObmana ticket-holders.
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From:
'Adele Outland'
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 5:32
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Air Sculpture live at the National Space Centre
Reply to Vic's post:
> > Anyone thinking of going to see 'Air Sculpture' live at the National
>Space
>Centre, Leicester, UK April 5th ?
>
>They will also be at the Ricochet Gathering at the Mojave Desert,
>California
>from April 25-39th.
Said dates prove the very ethereal nature of this concert. ;)
>Also here is a trivia question I heard on the radio. 'What is the name of
>the Canadian Space Agency?'
Non-existent? 8-Dell
>Only about 16% of Canadians got it right.
>
>Vic
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From:
'Sean Montgomery'
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 5:51
pm
Subject: Re: the real ruling the waves
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'tei waz' wrote:
>
> wasn't it a week or two ago now that the 'real' ruling the waves was
gonna
> be posted in mp3 format on the .org site?
Yes...but the original promise was to have it up 'in some days time',
and that was as of December 9th. So I wouldn't hold my breath. Some
technical problems still in the way, perhaps?
-Sean
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From:
'Administrator'
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 6:11
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: the real ruling the waves
Perhaps it is still busy 'Ruling The Waves '?
;-)
dale
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Sean Montgomery'
To:
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:51 AM
Subject: [tadream] Re: the real ruling the waves
> --- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'tei waz' wrote:
> >
> > wasn't it a week or two ago now that the 'real' ruling the waves was
> gonna
> > be posted in mp3 format on the .org site?
>
>
> Yes...but the original promise was to have it up 'in some days time',
> and that was as of December 9th. So I wouldn't hold my breath. Some
> technical problems still in the way, perhaps?
>
> -Sean
>
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From:
'Sean Montgomery'
Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 4:44
pm
Subject: Re: Release or composition dates?
I feel your pain on this one. I've been ripping my entire TD
collection to MP3 files over the past few months, and have been filing
everything into folders organized by year. The policy I've been
keeping is to file by composition date, unless the piece was
overdubbed or changed in some fashion, in which case it goes into the
folder for the year in which those changes took place. So Deadly Care
- which was not overdubbed for release - gets filed under 1987 (even
though it didn't get released until 1992), while TDI's version of the
Keep goes in 1997, because the original material was overhauled by the
band in that year. This way, it's easier to follow the band's
stylistic, personnel, and equipment changes over the years. The only
grey area are the bonus tracks from 'The Melrose Years', and Dream
Roots. Even though we know when they were originally composed, I go
on the assumption that they were tweaked for release...so they got
filed by release date.
I've been relying on http://www.voices-in-the-net.de and
http://www.algonet.se/~jonwar/td.html to help me with dating things.
From:
Kevin
Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 4:50
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Rockoon & the Toothache
I have to agree about how people respond differently to the same TD pieces.
Last night, about 12 ( U.S. Central Standard Time), I WAS listening to Rubycon
Part 1 to get to sleep.......it worked too! What an amazing album......
By the way, this is my first submission. I am new to the mailing list. I love
it!
Kevin
quarlie@a... wrote:'Greg' wrote:
>Rubycon Pt. 1 is great for creating insomnia! It is pure torture music for
>when I just want to relax.
It's funny how different people react differently to music. Rubycon is
definitely intense, but I nonetheless find it easy to drift off and relax to it.
--Daniel
NP: Gamma Ray - No World Order
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From:
'fozziebear'
Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 5:40
pm
Subject: Release or composition date?
Billythefish said This reminded me of an ever present problem I have: how to
file my collection?
I gave up on this one some time ago. Mine are spread over the house near CD
players, near computers, at work, in different cities, in my friend's players,
except one. His place is like the Bermuda Triangle, so nothing goes there!
And if a certain person who shall remain nameless owned Concorde she would lose
it in the wardrobe!
David
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From:
Frédéric Yargui
Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 6:07
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Rockoon & the Toothache
Hello Dreamers,
It's very interesting such a topic, since I believe in one hand every people
is different and on the other hand disease is created by mind. So controling
our mind may lead us to control our health. I study how, by its
representation in mind (someones say 'visualisation' but the brain does not
only functiun with visual parts) one can control his / her inner parts of
the body. Pain control is an application. Harmony or distress can be other
ones. Especially getting in trance with tools like EM I find interesting and
there are some pieces I played and recorded myself I personnally use to get
in some kind of trance which helps me then to get in some particular...
state of mind. I think sequencers create some kinds of trance. Klaus Schulze
and Steve Roach I find too much repetitve and for me this has the strange
effet of getting me *out* of the trance. TD on the contrary has the good
level (to me I repeat ;o)
I'm looking forward reading more about this (on or off list if you find this
too much irrationnal or never experimented such a thing).
Best Regards,
Fred
np : silence
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Kevin'
To:
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Rockoon & the Toothache
>
> I have to agree about how people respond differently to the same TD
pieces. Last night, about 12 ( U.S. Central Standard Time), I WAS listening
to Rubycon Part 1 to get to sleep.......it worked too! What an amazing
album......
> By the way, this is my first submission. I am new to the mailing list. I
love it!
> Kevin
> quarlie@a... wrote:'Greg' wrote:
>
> >Rubycon Pt. 1 is great for creating insomnia! It is pure torture music
for
> >when I just want to relax.
>
> It's funny how different people react differently to music. Rubycon is
definitely intense, but I nonetheless find it easy to drift off and relax to
it.
>
> --Daniel
> NP: Gamma Ray - No World Order
>>
From:
Frédéric Yargui
Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 6:18
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Release or composition dates?
> I've been relying on http://www.voices-in-the-net.de and
> http://www.algonet.se/~jonwar/td.html to help me with dating things.
>
>
I think it would be nice to complete the listing of the other site you
mention, I find it more practical than the presentation of the composotions
in voices in the net...
Any volunteer to share the work ?
Best Regards,
Fred
From:
'tei waz'
Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 7:20
pm
Subject: bootleg in-ear monitors....
> >Among the booters' most inventive tactics: using wireless radio receivers
> >that capture signals sent to the in-ear monitors musicians wear to hear
> >one another onstage. Fans can record a pristine feed of the entire show
> >from outside the venue.
a lot of bands have various radio frequencies that they use for whatever.
and the dead's sound guy--healey used to broadcast some shows. if you were
savvy you could set your radio to it and tape the show that way, but
hey--there's plenty to be said for shows that include audience reaction,
too--not just sterile soundboards that may not be mixed well for
release....but anyway, I think we covered this thread several months ago.
--T
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From:
'tei waz'
Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 7:26
pm
Subject: (dis)organizing music
lessee, at this point my collection works like this--if the artist starts
with A it goes in A, B in B, C in C and so on. It doesn't get anymore
organized than that anymore. Actually, I have the alphabet split somewhat
between units so some A is at the top or one shelf unit and some at the top
of the other. Except I've run out of space again ;)
Way beyond time to get another unit--and some more wall space....
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From:
Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 7:56
pm
Subject: Cut and Paste
Cut and Paste, People; Cut and Paste!! As much as I love each and every one
of you, and this list as a whole, I would prefer not to have to read entire
digests twice.
;-)
Tanx
In God's Love
Neal
'You can't take it with you -
but you CAN send it on ahead - Give.'
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From:
'Administrator'
Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 8:02
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Cut and Paste
How about copy and paste? Cut is so destructive.
;-)
dale
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From:
To:
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 11:56 AM
Subject: [tadream] Cut and Paste
> Cut and Paste, People; Cut and Paste!! As much as I love each and every
one
> of you, and this list as a whole, I would prefer not to have to read
entire
> digests twice.
>
> ;-)
>
> Tanx
> In God's Love
> Neal
>
>
> 'You can't take it with you -
> but you CAN send it on ahead - Give.'
> Pastor Tom Mullins
From:
Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 8:24
pm
Subject: Release or composition dates?
Just my $0.02 worth, but my ENTIRE music collection is alphabetical. Then,
within each alphabetical artists listing, it is in order of composition
date.....sort of.
This is easy with most artists. I have a lot of b**tlegs in my collection, so
it is easy to do by concert date. But with TD, this is a little more
complicated. Most things are catalogued by composition dates. All of the Keep
CD I have are dated in the 1982 area. Whether original boots from members of
the list, or 'Tangetized' official releases by the Dream. Official compilations
are by release date. Duncan's compilations are by the date of the most recent
song represented. All of the TDI releases are in order of release (which in
most cases is also catalogue numerical order). The REAL Sohomom boot comes
after the TDI Sohomon release. The different Klangart boots come after Mars
Polaris for obvious reasons. Shepherds Bush Empire comes after DMIII. The
Inferno concert boot comes after the TDI Inferno release.
Hope all this helps. It works for me.....mostly.
Neal
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Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 16:37:33 -0000
From: 'Sean Montgomery'
Subject: Re: Release or composition dates?
I feel your pain on this one. I've been ripping my entire TD
collection to MP3 files over the past few months, and have been filing
everything into folders organized by year. The policy I've been
keeping is to file by composition date, unless the piece was
overdubbed or changed in some fashion, in which case it goes into the
folder for the year in which those changes took place. So Deadly Care
- which was not overdubbed for release - gets filed under 1987 (even
though it didn't get released until 1992), while TDI's version of the
Keep goes in 1997, because the original material was overhauled by the
band in that year. This way, it's easier to follow the band's
stylistic, personnel, and equipment changes over the years.
I've been relying on http://www.voices-in-the-net.com and
http://www.algonet.se/~jonwar/td.html to help me with dating things.
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From:
Jorge Figueiredo
Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 9:27
pm
Subject: TD enigma solution
The explanation for the story is very simple. That's why I had to try
some suspense. ;-)
Björn, you weren't very far from the solution, except in geographic
terms: Dali lived in Spain, not Portugal. But it has to do with a community.
There is, since the late 70s, a large hippie community living in 2 or 3
small villages in the surrounding mountainous area of Lousã, formed
mainly by Dutch and German. They are by now completely integrated in the
town's everyday life and the hippie second generation has reached the
public schools. That class in particular has some of these students.
Their musical preferences seem to be determined by what they listen at
home, hence the peculiar tastes (most of them confess to hate pop music
flavour-of-the-month). I'm sure that their favourite TD period would be
the Virgin Years. ;-)
This story has a particular importance for me. I knew of other
portuguese TD fans, but António Nunes is a bit far away (1200 Kms). Now
there is a bunch of them 25 kms away from me. :-)
Regards,
Jorge Figueiredo
(( TD - Astoria Theatre, London, February 15th, 2003 <))
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From:
'tei waz'
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 12:01
am
Subject: re: the real ruling the waves
wasn't it a week or two ago now that the 'real' ruling the waves was gonna
be posted in mp3 format on the .org site?
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From:
Morgan Feldon
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 2:09
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Release or composition dates?
>Hi guys, what is THe Park is mine? and Phaedra of Notingham?
>Paulus.d
The Park is Mine is a TD soundtrack to a film with Tommy Lee Jones.
Phaedra of Nottingham is a brief remixed segment of Phaedra, as played at
most of the 1988-2001 TD concerts. The particular version in question on
Antique Dreams is from 1988 and bizarrely includes several seconds
Livemiles Albq. part, movement 2.
-Morgan
From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 7:34
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Rockoon & the Toothache
>It's very interesting such a topic, since I believe in one hand every
>people
>is different and on the other hand disease is created by mind. So
>controling
>our mind may lead us to control our health. I study how, by its
>representation in mind (someones say 'visualisation' but the brain does not
>only functiun with visual parts) one can control his / her inner parts of
>the body. Pain control is an application. Harmony or distress can be other
>ones.
It is a known fact that your thoughts can affect your healing, even greatly
(take the placebo effect for example), but diseases are not *created* by the
mind. You cannot get malaria without a malaria infection, or a heart attack
without any problems in the blood circulation... aluckily.
Of course, there're the psychosomatic symptoms, too, but they're not that
common.
>Especially getting in trance with tools like EM I find interesting and
>there are some pieces I played and recorded myself I personnally use to get
>in some kind of trance which helps me then to get in some particular...
>state of mind. I think sequencers create some kinds of trance. Klaus
>Schulze
>and Steve Roach I find too much repetitve and for me this has the strange
>effet of getting me *out* of the trance. TD on the contrary has the good
>level (to me I repeat ;o)
>
>I'm looking forward reading more about this (on or off list if you find
>this
>too much irrationnal or never experimented such a thing).
>
>Best Regards,
>
>Fred
>
>np : silence
BTW, the so-called 'trance' or 'hypnose' state is not a non-conscious state,
even though some think othervise. It's actually just a feeling, if a rather
strange one though. There has been no evidence of brainwaves becoming
different, as it does in sleep.
-To keep this even barely on topic: I once played Michael Hoening's
Departure From The Nothern Wasteland to my father... he said it resembles
some sort of an artistic transcription of brainwaves.
John Vertical
np: the hum of the two dozen computers in our computer lab
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From:
Armin Theissen
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 9:42
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] (dis)organizing music
I also stick to the alphabet, but make a difference between stuff
you have to go to a so-called 'classic' section to and the rest.
The reason for that is that 'classical' music is usually performed
by musician(s) which are not the composer(s), and of course has
usually different interpreters. Everything else is usually tightly
bound to the composer, otherwise its a 'cover' version and something
completely different.
a.
tei waz wrote:
> lessee, at this point my collection works like this--if the artist starts
> with A it goes in A, B in B, C in C and so on. It doesn't get anymore
> organized than that anymore. Actually, I have the alphabet split somewhat
> between units so some A is at the top or one shelf unit and some at the top
> of the other. Except I've run out of space again ;)
> Way beyond time to get another unit--and some more wall space....
>
>
>
>
>
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From:
Armin Theissen
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 9:48
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Rockoon & the Toothache
This can also depend on something you happened to do or
experience while listening to a track. One hot
sunny day I overtook a very shiny chrome truck on a
long straight road somewhere between Madrid and Zaragoza,
and had Dr. Destructo in the car stereo. Since then,
I am in danger of a speed frenzy with this track... ;-)
a.
Kevin wrote:
> I have to agree about how people respond differently to the same TD
> pieces. Last night, about 12 ( U.S. Central Standard Time), I WAS
> listening to Rubycon Part 1 to get to sleep.......it worked too!
> What an amazing album...... By the way, this is my first
> submission. I am new to the mailing list. I love it! Kevin
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> wrote:'Greg' wrote:
>
>
>> Rubycon Pt. 1 is great for creating insomnia! It is pure torture
>> music for when I just want to relax.
>>
>
> It's funny how different people react differently to music. Rubycon
> is definitely intense, but I nonetheless find it easy to drift off
> and relax to it.
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From:
'Bill Fox'
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 12:42
pm
Subject: vidnaObmana at the Soundscapes Concert Series
The Soundscapes Concert Series
proudly presents
vidnaObmana
in an all ages concert of space music
at the City of Bethlehem's IceHouse on Sand Island
56 River Street West
Bethlehem, Pennsylvania
Saturday, April 19, 2003
Concert at 8:00 pm, doors open at 7:30 pm
FREE Buffet Dinner by Chef Jeff
Tickets: $17 in advance and $20 at the door.
Soundscapes #4 is coproduced by WDS Productions and
Wooden Shoe Music.
For the fourth installment of the Soundscapes Concert Series, vidnaObmana will
perform a unique concert at the City of Bethlehem's IceHouse on Sand Island.
Located in historic Bethlehem on the north bank of the Lehigh River, the
IceHouse is a perfect venue for a concert of spacemusic. This concert will be
on Saturday, April 19, 2003, starting at 8:00 pm. The doors will open at 7:30
pm and Chef Jeff will cater a free buffet dinner. Tickets are $17 in advance
and $20 at the door. Advance tickets are be available at:
Compact Disc Center Speedy's Record Shop
1365 Easton Ave. 1001 Union Blvd.
Bethlehem, Pennsylvania Allentown, Pennsylvania
610-868-3070 610-432-8386
and on-line at:
http://electro-music.com
NOTE: Tickets purchased at the door will be discounted by $3 for those who show
their WDIY or WMUH membersip cards or their full time student ID.
INFORMATION:
http://soundscapes.us
CONTACT:
Bill Fox
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610-746-9615
VIDNAOBMANA:
Ambient musician vidnaObmana is one of spacemusic's brightest stars. Using
synthesizers, audio processors, and a vast array of exotic instruments, Belgian
electronic musician vidnaObmana creates a complex, layered musical journey
through rhythms, timbres, loops, and sonic atmospheres. The name vidnaObmana
means 'optical illusion' in Servo-Croation, a term he picked up while
vacationing in Croatia during his childhood. He chose this phrase as his
musical persona to illustrate how his music correlates sonically with the
surreal soundscapes he creates. vidnaObmana is a prolific composer whose
diverse body of work ranges from post-industrial through gently atmospheric, to
tribal ambient and more. His music slowly shifts through electronic audio
imagery, creating extremely personal works of atmospheric delight.
Throughout his career, vidnaObmana has explored the abrasive side of electronic
composition, using freeform soundscapes, international music traditions, and
post-classical experimentations. His music has been released widely by many
independent labels worldwide, including: Release/Relapse, Amplexus, Extreme,
Hypnos, Mirage, Multimood, Projekt and others. A significant portion of
vidnaObmana's work has been realized in collaboration with some of the world's
most interesting musicians such as Alio Die, Jeff Pearce, Steve Roach, Djen
Ajakan Shean, Asmus Tietchens, and Brannan Lane.
FLIER:
A concert flier is available for download at
http://soundscapes.us/concert flier.pdf You are encouraged to take an active
role in the health of the electronic music scene by printing, displaying, and
distributing this flier. Forwarding of this email message helps, too!
ROBERT RICH:
Robert Rich will come to the Soundscapes Concert Series on Saturday, July 12,
2003. Tickets will be $20 at the door and $17 in advance (on sale starting
April 20). Tickets for the July 12 Robert Rich concert which are purchased at
the April 19 Soundscapes are $15 only for vidnaObmana ticket-holders.
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From:
'Adele Outland'
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 5:32
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Air Sculpture live at the National Space Centre
Reply to Vic's post:
> > Anyone thinking of going to see 'Air Sculpture' live at the National
>Space
>Centre, Leicester, UK April 5th ?
>
>They will also be at the Ricochet Gathering at the Mojave Desert,
>California
>from April 25-39th.
Said dates prove the very ethereal nature of this concert. ;)
>Also here is a trivia question I heard on the radio. 'What is the name of
>the Canadian Space Agency?'
Non-existent? 8-Dell
>Only about 16% of Canadians got it right.
>
>Vic
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From:
'Sean Montgomery'
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 5:51
pm
Subject: Re: the real ruling the waves
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'tei waz' wrote:
>
> wasn't it a week or two ago now that the 'real' ruling the waves was
gonna
> be posted in mp3 format on the .org site?
Yes...but the original promise was to have it up 'in some days time',
and that was as of December 9th. So I wouldn't hold my breath. Some
technical problems still in the way, perhaps?
-Sean
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From:
'Administrator'
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 6:11
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: the real ruling the waves
Perhaps it is still busy 'Ruling The Waves '?
;-)
dale
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Sean Montgomery'
To:
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:51 AM
Subject: [tadream] Re: the real ruling the waves
> --- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'tei waz' wrote:
> >
> > wasn't it a week or two ago now that the 'real' ruling the waves was
> gonna
> > be posted in mp3 format on the .org site?
>
>
> Yes...but the original promise was to have it up 'in some days time',
> and that was as of December 9th. So I wouldn't hold my breath. Some
> technical problems still in the way, perhaps?
>
> -Sean
>
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From:
'VicRek'
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 7:06
pm
Subject: Star Sounds Orchestra
I just got word of this cool link about Star Sounds Orchestra:
http://www.planetware.de/musik/Star-Sounds-Orchestra/sso-live.html#ricochet
SSO features Steve Schroyder (TD - Alpha Centauri, Zeit) and Ash Ra Tempel
(Seven Up) and the 'Gong Master' Jens Zygar.
If you wish to find out more about the Ricochet Gathering or the
subscription service, you may contact me off list or check out
www.ricochetdream.com/mojave.html
Don't forget that AirSculpture, Paul Lawler (Arcane), DER Spyra, Free System
Projekt (Marcel Engels), Bill Fox and Dave Brewer will also be performing at
this Ghost town in the desert.
The next gathering is this April 25-29 and it is almost booked! Check it out
if you wish to have an EM experience of a lifetime!!
RU Brave Enuf?
VicRek
tangerinedream@h...
www.ricochetdream.com
From:
'VicRek'
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 7:25
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Air Sculpture live at the National Space Centre
From: 'Adele Outland'
> >They will also be at the Ricochet Gathering at the Mojave Desert,
> >California
> >from April 25-39th.
> Said dates prove the very ethereal nature of this concert. ;)
Yes :-) Can you give a full report when you return..... from which planet?
:-)
> >Also here is a trivia question I heard on the radio. 'What is the name of
> >the Canadian Space Agency?'
>
> Non-existent? 8-Dell
This was my guess - but the answer is in the question (CSA) :-)
Vic
From:
'VicRek'
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 8:12
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] TD enigma solution
Hi Jorge!
Thanks for the wonderful story....
Now a little commentary of mine:
In 10 years, all those young kids will be in awe of what we can discuss
these days.
Bring them in young before they get DSL and cable modem --- nonsense...
And lock themselves in their room and wait until called for dinner -
pathetic!
Vic
From:
Vincent
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 11:50
pm
Subject: CSA
Tsk tsk tsk, folks. That's no way to treat us canucks.
Canada was the 3rd country to build a statellite, back in
the early 1960's. Also, the most powerful earth radar
satellite is also Canadian (RadarSat) and everyone should
know about the CanadArm that enable the Space Shuttle
to capture and release satellites, and that is going into its
second generation as the International Space Station
manipulator and maintenance system.
We may not be as big as the US, but we're there, and we
are trying.
Message: 21
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 14:25:54 -0500
From: 'VicRek'
Subject: Re: Air Sculpture live at the National Space Centre
From: 'Adele Outland'
> >They will also be at the Ricochet Gathering at the Mojave Desert,
> >California
> >from April 25-39th.
> Said dates prove the very ethereal nature of this concert. ;)
Yes :-) Can you give a full report when you return..... from which planet?
:-)
> >Also here is a trivia question I heard on the radio. 'What is the name of
> >the Canadian Space Agency?'
>
> Non-existent? 8-Dell
This was my guess - but the answer is in the question (CSA) :-)
Vic
From:
'Dave Brewer'
Date: Wed Apr 2, 2003 1:46
am
Subject: Strange Behavior DVD
Greetings all,
If this is already common knowledge, I apologize. But if it isn't, here it
is... According to DVDReview.com, Strange Behavior will be coming to DVD
May 6 in the US. The article says 'The film will contain an anamorphic
widescreen transfer and an audio commentary with Bill Condon (screenwriter)
and actors Dan Shor and Dey Young. Other extras include an
_ISOLATED_SCORE_, deleted scenes, theatrical trailers, a photo gallery and
filmographies. If they do the isolated score properly (unlike Legend), this
DVD may be of interest to some of us here. :-) It's funny that this film is
getting a nicer treatment on DVD than Miracle Mile, but at least MM is
coming on DVD too.
I was just reviewing the only Strange Behavior music I have, which is on the
Prayer of Quiet Dreams b**t. The first track was a strange ambient-ish
tune, but the other one is a nice guitar tune. Makes me wonder what this
soundtrack is like since I've never seen the film.
Regards,
Dave B.
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From:
'Jim Moore'
Date: Wed Apr 2, 2003 3:55
am
Subject: RE: [tadream] Strange Behavior DVD
I hadn't heard this, thanks for the info, Dave!
Considering that there wasn't ever a released soundtrack for this movie, I
don't see how they could do a Legend treatment for this... :) I remember
seeing the movie over 10 years ago on TV, and thinking it was very
disturbing, but nothing exceptional.
- jim
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Brewer [mailto:deibu@g...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:46 PM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] Strange Behavior DVD
Greetings all,
If this is already common knowledge, I apologize. But if it isn't, here it
is... According to DVDReview.com, Strange Behavior will be coming to DVD
May 6 in the US. The article says 'The film will contain an anamorphic
widescreen transfer and an audio commentary with Bill Condon (screenwriter)
and actors Dan Shor and Dey Young. Other extras include an
_ISOLATED_SCORE_, deleted scenes, theatrical trailers, a photo gallery and
filmographies. If they do the isolated score properly (unlike Legend), this
DVD may be of interest to some of us here. :-) It's funny that this film is
getting a nicer treatment on DVD than Miracle Mile, but at least MM is
coming on DVD too.
I was just reviewing the only Strange Behavior music I have, which is on the
Prayer of Quiet Dreams b**t. The first track was a strange ambient-ish
tune, but the other one is a nice guitar tune. Makes me wonder what this
soundtrack is like since I've never seen the film.
Regards,
Dave B.
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From:
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Date: Wed Apr 2, 2003 9:40
am
Subject: Collection Sale
Wondering if US$3,000 is a good price for this collection?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2520544417&category=1566
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From:
Robert Grabowsky
Date: Wed Apr 2, 2003 12:09
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Collection Sale
It must be. I see Peter Raven has bid on it.
THE HIGHLANDER
At 05:40 PM 4/2/03 +0800, you wrote:
>Wondering if US$3,000 is a good price for this collection?
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2520544417&category=1566
>
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From:
Heiko Heerssen
Date: Wed Apr 2, 2003 12:44
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Collection Sale
I guess that if I would send:
'over 120 CD’s ,18 Videos, 75 Cassettes, 3 T -Shirts, and 24 Solo Member Cd’s
,History of TD Book , and a Reference Guide' [quote] to someone living outside
of Europe, it would already cost me US$3000 for paying the airmail postage
~LOL~
Some of the stuff is really very rare, but I doubt that someone will use the
'buy it now' option. And the 'imported CD' list is a bit..erm...well :-)
> It must be. I see Peter Raven has bid on it.
well I fear that $100 is just a bit too low to meet the guy's reserve price ;-)
Heiko
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From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Wed Apr 2, 2003 1:17
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Collection Sale
>Wondering if US$3,000 is a good price for this collection?
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2520544417&category=1566
>
>Jeffrey
Man, that, if anything, is HUGE! Couldn't he really consider selling it in
even just a little smaller chunks?
Yes, $3000 sounds high, if reasonable though.. but it's sort of inconvenient
- I mean, if someone wants L'Affaire Wallraff, what will (s)he do with all
those regular albums?
..but then again, I'm no hoarder (yet ;-) so I can't know...
John Vertical
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From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Wed Apr 2, 2003 1:32
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] TD enigma solution
>Now a little commentary of mine:
>In 10 years, all those young kids will be in awe of what we can discuss
>these days.
>Bring them in young before they get DSL and cable modem --- nonsense...
>And lock themselves in their room and wait until called for dinner -
>pathetic!
>
>Vic
Huh? I didn't understand a bit of that...
Could you to translate that for us non-English speaking? Like, bring them in
where, what is nonsense, or what 'these days'?
John Vertical
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From:
'bduke252003'
Date: Wed Apr 2, 2003 1:35
pm
Subject: Re: Collection Sale
I actually emailed the seller requesting that he withdraw his auction
and break it down into smaller chunks. There's one thing I want in
the ENTIRE collection (and I have a feeling that by the time the
auction ends, the end price will be far too high for a simple, single
poster)!
Kind of silly auction.
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'John Vertical'
wrote:
> >Wondering if US$3,000 is a good price for this collection?
> >
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&item=2520544417&category=1566
> >
> >Jeffrey
>
>
> Man, that, if anything, is HUGE! Couldn't he really consider
selling it in
> even just a little smaller chunks?
> Yes, $3000 sounds high, if reasonable though.. but it's sort of
inconvenient
> - I mean, if someone wants L'Affaire Wallraff, what will (s)he do
with all
> those regular albums?
> ..but then again, I'm no hoarder (yet ;-) so I can't know...
>
> John Vertical
>
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From:
'Glynn Naughton'
Date: Wed Apr 2, 2003 3:26
pm
Subject: Re: the real ruling the waves
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Sean Montgomery' wrote:
> --- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'tei waz' wrote:
> >
> > wasn't it a week or two ago now that the 'real' ruling the waves
was
> gonna
> > be posted in mp3 format on the .org site?
>
>
> Yes...but the original promise was to have it up 'in some days
time',
> and that was as of December 9th. So I wouldn't hold my breath.
Some
> technical problems still in the way, perhaps?
>
> -Sean
The first announcement that the TD site was being revamped was at the
beginning of last year, and, as I recall, it said that it would
happen 'in the next three weeks or so'. In fact, it took six months.
Estimating has never been TDI's strong suit. If the company folds, I
doubt whether any of them will be applying for jobs in project
management... :-)
Glynn
From:
quarlie@a...
Date: Wed Apr 2, 2003 3:39
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] TD enigma solution
'John Vertical' wrote:
>Huh? I didn't understand a bit of that...
>Could you to translate that for us non-English speaking? Like, bring them in
>where, what is nonsense, or what 'these days'?
Don't worry, John. I'm a native English speaker and I didn't understand it
either. ;)
--Daniel
NP: Lights of Euphoria - Voices
From:
Antonio Nunes
Date: Wed Apr 2, 2003 4:15
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] TD enigma solution
quarlie@a... wrote:
>
> Don't worry, John. I'm a native English speaker and I didn't understand
> it either. ;)
Maybe Vic has been reading 'Digital Gothic', Paul Stump's book for
English experts ;-)
Antonio Nunes
np: The Melrose Years disc 2
From:
'VicRek'
Date: Wed Apr 2, 2003 6:26
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] TD enigma solution
Well, I just can't explain it. It was some little voice that I heard that
told me to write it.
I'm glad at least some folk 'tried' to understand it. :-)
Maybe I got the translation mixed up with my Polish. Anyway, my wife read
it and understood it.
And yes, how did you know that I started reading Paul Stump's book - I
pulled it out 3 days ago when I was unpacking my TD books - really :-)
Vic
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Antonio Nunes'
> >
> > Don't worry, John. I'm a native English speaker and I didn't understand
> > it either. ;)
>
> Maybe Vic has been reading 'Digital Gothic', Paul Stump's book for
> English experts ;-)
From:
'gyedid01'
Date: Wed Apr 2, 2003 7:47
pm
Subject: Re: Guilty secrets / DEPECHE MODE
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, shez@a... wrote:
> >
> >to try and get this thread on topic, wouldn't it be cool if TD
could
> >do some DM covers as encores for their shows?
>
> I don't see why TD would have to pay tribute to a band which started
> nearly 16 years after them.
I'll keep this brief...
Because it would be much more appropriate, IMO, for TD to peform
covers of songs by other electronic bands than fall back on
arrangements of non-synth 60s bands. Because of the success DM has
had in making electro-pop accessible to the masses. Because a fair
number of TD fans are also likely DM fans as well. Take your pick.
Gabe
From:
'gyedid01'
Date: Wed Apr 2, 2003 7:47
pm
Subject: Re: Guilty secrets / DEPECHE MODE
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, shez@a... wrote:
> >
> >to try and get this thread on topic, wouldn't it be cool if TD
could
> >do some DM covers as encores for their shows?
>
> I don't see why TD would have to pay tribute to a band which started
> nearly 16 years after them.
I'll keep this brief...
Because it would be much more appropriate, IMO, for TD to peform
covers of songs by other electronic bands than fall back on
arrangements of non-synth 60s bands. Because of the success DM has
had in making electro-pop accessible to the masses. Because a fair
number of TD fans are also likely DM fans as well. Take your pick.
Gabe
From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Wed Apr 2, 2003 9:05
pm
Subject: sounds with physiological effects (was: Rockoon & the Toothache)
Fred (and anyone else interested),
You might want to check out Brain/Mind Reseach at:
http://www.inner-net.com/bmr/
They have all sorts of neat music-related meditation/relaxation gear,
including a 'sound therapy table', which is designed to resonate low
frequency direclty into your body. If you want to 'feel the music', this is
it!
They also have a number of recordings available, including discs of 'space
sounds' - actual recordings of electromagnetic waves emitted by various
celestial bodies in our solar system (recorded by Voyager and other space
probes), which is how I stumbled across them in the first place.
James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frédéric Yargui [mailto:fredericyargui@w...]
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 12:08 PM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [tadream] Rockoon & the Toothache
>
>
> Hello Dreamers,
>
> It's very interesting such a topic, since I believe in one
> hand every people
> is different and on the other hand disease is created by
> mind. So controling
> our mind may lead us to control our health. I study how, by its
> representation in mind (someones say 'visualisation' but the
> brain does not
> only functiun with visual parts) one can control his / her
> inner parts of
> the body. Pain control is an application. Harmony or distress
> can be other
> ones. Especially getting in trance with tools like EM I find
> interesting and
> there are some pieces I played and recorded myself I
> personnally use to get
> in some kind of trance which helps me then to get in some
> particular...
> state of mind. I think sequencers create some kinds of
> trance. Klaus Schulze
> and Steve Roach I find too much repetitve and for me this has
> the strange
> effet of getting me *out* of the trance. TD on the contrary
> has the good
> level (to me I repeat ;o)
>
> I'm looking forward reading more about this (on or off list
> if you find this
> too much irrationnal or never experimented such a thing).
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Fred
>
> np : silence
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Kevin'
> To:
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [tadream] Rockoon & the Toothache
>
>
> >
> > I have to agree about how people respond differently to the same TD
> pieces. Last night, about 12 ( U.S. Central Standard Time), I
> WAS listening
> to Rubycon Part 1 to get to sleep.......it worked too! What an amazing
> album......
> > By the way, this is my first submission. I am new to the
> mailing list. I
> love it!
> > Kevin
> > quarlie@a... wrote:'Greg' wrote:
> >
> > >Rubycon Pt. 1 is great for creating insomnia! It is pure
> torture music
> for
> > >when I just want to relax.
> >
> > It's funny how different people react differently to music.
> Rubycon is
> definitely intense, but I nonetheless find it easy to drift
> off and relax to
> it.
> >
> > --Daniel
> > NP: Gamma Ray - No World Order
> >>
>
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From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Wed Apr 2, 2003 10:26
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Seasonal samplers
For your spring set I recommend 'Tiergarten'. There's a definite feel of
'spring fever' there. (For you non-native English speakers, 'spring fever'
is the feeling you have when you're stuck indoors on the first temperate,
clear day of the year). 'Tiergarten' makes me long for a cool afternoon in
a shady park somewhere...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Vertical [mailto:johnvertical@h...]
>
> Hello people,
> I'm compiling 'The Five Seasons' TD samplers - yes, that's
> 'five', not
> 'four'. I'm splicing summer and autumn onto 3 disks, sort of
> Green, Yellow
> and Brown; - but at the moment I have a problem. I can't
> think of enough
> things to put on the Spring disk. So far I have:
> Marakesh
> Cherokee Lane
> Silver Scale
> and nothing else.
From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Wed Apr 2, 2003 10:29
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] TD references in unexpected places
I built an RPG adventure based on the opening words (the vocoder voice) to
'Bent Cold Sidewalk'.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Vertical [mailto:johnvertical@h...]
> I'm building an RPG and throwing in things like Cinnamon
> Road, Goblins'
> Club, Twin Soul Tribe...
>
> Hmm, could consider an elf called 'June' to boot.
>
> John Vertical
From:
'Jim Moore'
Date: Thu Apr 3, 2003 2:49
am
Subject: OT: Prog Music Store in Denton, TX
Sorry for the abrupt inquiry, but I'm trying to recall the name of a
record/video store based in Denton, Texas, that sold a lot of progressive
titles. They had a pretty good web site for a while, but I can't remember
who they were. If anyone has any clue who I'm talking about, please let me
know...
Now back to the Tang...
__________________________________________________
Jim Moore, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
moxica@a...
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From:
'Philippe Gibone'
Date: Wed Apr 2, 2003 3:51
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] TD enigma solution
You can use a free translator :
Don't worry, John. I'm a native English speaker and I didn't understand it
either.
translated to German then back to english :
Do not be concerned, John. I am an innate English speaker and I have it
either not understood
then translated to Portuguese then back to english
Nao imported, John. I am an innate English speaker and I have any a nao
they understood
HTH
Philippe Gibone
>From: quarlie@a...
>Reply-To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
>To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [tadream] TD enigma solution
>Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 10:39:34 -0500
>
>'John Vertical' wrote:
>
> >Huh? I didn't understand a bit of that...
> >Could you to translate that for us non-English speaking? Like, bring them
>in
> >where, what is nonsense, or what 'these days'?
>
>Don't worry, John. I'm a native English speaker and I didn't understand it
>either. ;)
>
>--Daniel
>NP: Lights of Euphoria - Voices
>
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From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Thu Apr 3, 2003 6:32
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: the real ruling the waves
>The first announcement that the TD site was being revamped was at the
>beginning of last year, and, as I recall, it said that it would
>happen 'in the next three weeks or so'. In fact, it took six months.
>
>Estimating has never been TDI's strong suit. If the company folds, I
>doubt whether any of them will be applying for jobs in project
>management... :-)
>
>Glynn
Yeah, and if it really is going to flop, I bet there's two or three albums
in between the 'We're Going Bankrypt' announcement and the actual crash.
On a side note... wasn't TDI supposed to feature other EM artists than just
TD (and TDJ Rome) in the future? Is this just another 'announcement long
before' or what?
John Vertical
np: TT vol 18
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From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Thu Apr 3, 2003 6:40
am
Subject: RE: [tadream] Seasonal samplers
>For your spring set I recommend 'Tiergarten'. There's a definite feel of
>'spring fever' there. (For you non-native English speakers, 'spring fever'
>is the feeling you have when you're stuck indoors on the first temperate,
>clear day of the year). 'Tiergarten' makes me long for a cool afternoon in
>a shady park somewhere...
Thanks!
OK, Marakesh, Silver Scale, Cherokee Lane excerpt and Tiergarten... that's
35 minutes. Futher suggestions, anyone?
John Vertical
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From:
Morgan Feldon
Date: Thu Apr 3, 2003 8:48
am
Subject: OT: Prog Music Store in Denton, TX
>From: 6d9c9b9.jpg'Jim Moore'
>Sorry for the abrupt inquiry, but I'm trying to recall the name of a
>record/video store based in Denton, Texas, that sold a lot of progressive
>titles. They had a pretty good web site for a while, but I can't remember
>who they were. If anyone has any clue who I'm talking about, please let me
>know...
>
>Now back to the Tang...
In response to your abrupt inquiry, I provide the only information I know
about RPM Records. They abruptly went out-of-business without so much as a
note. Their .com has since lapsed and been acquired by a search engine front.
The relevant information was
RPM Records
A music store and video rental place that specializes in 'the things you
can't get at Blockbuster Music'. Has a hefty collection of anime on VHS
(300-400 titles) and laserdisc (more than 20 titles) for rent, and also
sells some used anime tapes for about $12. They will order any available
video or disc for 90% of the list price.
Mesquite: 565 Oates, Suite 110(about 3/4 mile north from the old location)
(214)681-8441
from:
http://www.utdallas.edu/orgs/spoon/dallasanime.html
And I consider 'where to buy TD and other EM' pretty darn on-topic. :)
-Morgan
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From:
'bduke252003'
Date: Thu Apr 3, 2003 1:16
pm
Subject: Re: the real ruling the waves
Guys, why are we talking about TDI going bankrupt?
Let's stop before it actually becomes a rumor...yes?
BTW: Just got the Tang Tree 1 - 3 (Thanks Heiko!) and am amazed by
the Newcastle '81 show (Vol 10)(first half).
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'John Vertical'
wrote:
> >The first announcement that the TD site was being revamped was at
the
> >beginning of last year, and, as I recall, it said that it would
> >happen 'in the next three weeks or so'. In fact, it took six
months.
> >
> >Estimating has never been TDI's strong suit. If the company folds,
I
> >doubt whether any of them will be applying for jobs in project
> >management... :-)
> >
> >Glynn
>
>
> Yeah, and if it really is going to flop, I bet there's two or three
albums
> in between the 'We're Going Bankrypt' announcement and the actual
crash.
> On a side note... wasn't TDI supposed to feature other EM artists
than just
> TD (and TDJ Rome) in the future? Is this just another 'announcement
long
> before' or what?
>
> John Vertical
> np: TT vol 18
>
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From:
moxica@a...
Date: Thu Apr 3, 2003 2:12
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Prog Music Store in Denton, TX
That was it! Too bad to hear that they're no longer around; that would explain
why I fell off their mailing list.
So... is Ranjit still around... :)
- jim
--
Jim Moore, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
moxica@a...
> In response to your abrupt inquiry, I provide the only information I know
> about RPM Records. They abruptly went out-of-business without so much as a
> note. Their .com has since lapsed and been acquired by a search engine front.
>
> The relevant information was
> RPM Records
> A music store and video rental place that specializes in 'the things you
> can't get at Blockbuster Music'. Has a hefty collection of anime on VHS
> (300-400 titles) and laserdisc (more than 20 titles) for rent, and also
> sells some used anime tapes for about $12. They will order any available
> video or disc for 90% of the list price.
> Mesquite: 565 Oates, Suite 110(about 3/4 mile north from the old location)
> (214)681-8441
> -Morgan
From:
Klaus Beschorner
Date: Thu Apr 3, 2003 5:41
pm
Subject: notice of absence
Hi all,
I'll be away on a business trip to Japan April 4-24, and don't
expect to be able to do much TD-wise during this time.
In the meantime, I have updated the newstuff.txt on my
homepage with some very nice recent news ;-)
cheers
klaus
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From:
quarlie@a...
Date: Thu Apr 3, 2003 6:52
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] notice of absence
Klaus Beschorner wrote:
>I'll be away on a business trip to Japan April 4-24, and don't
>expect to be able to do much TD-wise during this time.
Any chance you'll make it to the Zen Garden at Ryoan-ji? It's an important stop
on the Le Parc world tour. ;)
--Daniel (wishing he was back in Japan)
NP: Goblins' Club
From:
Frédéric Yargui
Date: Thu Apr 3, 2003 7:06
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Rockoon & the Toothache
Hello Dreamers and John,
> It is a known fact that your thoughts can affect your healing, even
greatly
> (take the placebo effect for example), but diseases are not *created* by
the
> mind. You cannot get malaria without a malaria infection, or a heart
attack
> without any problems in the blood circulation... aluckily.
> Of course, there're the psychosomatic symptoms, too, but they're not that
> common.
>
Yes, You're right and thank you for correcting me. It is a kind of process I
can hardly explain in all the systemic happenings, even in french :-)
>
>
> BTW, the so-called 'trance' or 'hypnose' state is not a non-conscious
state,
> even though some think othervise. It's actually just a feeling, if a
rather
> strange one though. There has been no evidence of brainwaves becoming
> different, as it does in sleep.
>
I agree with your first and last sentences. Hypnose is only a modified state
of our consiousness and we all experimentated this when travelling by train,
or when we are stargazing, and so on. And it is not only a feeling. Feelings
(to my knowledge) is a set of physical events that our brain comment. And
again you are right : it is not the same things that occurs when sleeping.
> -To keep this even barely on topic: I once played Michael Hoening's
> Departure From The Nothern Wasteland to my father... he said it resembles
> some sort of an artistic transcription of brainwaves.
>
I was listening to a track of this disc three hours ago in my car and I was
really seduced by the sequencing lines... I will try to understand your
point of view about it.
Later,
Fred
From:
Frédéric Yargui
Date: Thu Apr 3, 2003 7:08
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Rockoon & the Toothache
Hi Armin and Dreamers,
Some people think our thoughts create our reality.
:-)) :-))
Later,
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Armin Theissen'
To:
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Rockoon & the Toothache
>
> This can also depend on something you happened to do or
> experience while listening to a track. One hot
> sunny day I overtook a very shiny chrome truck on a
> long straight road somewhere between Madrid and Zaragoza,
> and had Dr. Destructo in the car stereo. Since then,
> I am in danger of a speed frenzy with this track... ;-)
>
> a.
>
From:
'Paul Dryden'
Date: Thu Apr 3, 2003 7:13
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Collection Sale
Iam reaching for the cheque book now.... I wish!!!
Paulus.d
----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 10:40 AM
Subject: [tadream] Collection Sale
> Wondering if US$3,000 is a good price for this collection?
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2520544417&category=1566
>
> Jeffrey
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From:
Frédéric Yargui
Date: Thu Apr 3, 2003 7:23
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] sounds with physiological effects (was: Rockoon & the Toothache)
Hello James and Dreamrs,
Thank you for the links ! I listenened to some of them and some are cool,
others are dead links... :-(
I will continue experimentation with this kind of music upon myself :-)
By the way, when I was 15 years younger I used to listen to rhythm EM, so
when I discovered ZEIT I was a bit (!) disappointed.
Luckily I learnt to become patient, and thus, I could appreciate this LP
(and now, this remastered CD :-)
I do not have the IRM (magnetic resonnance stuff) to proove my brain is in a
real better state when listening to that particular kind of music.
;o)
Best Regards,
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Owens, James'
To:
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 11:05 PM
Subject: [tadream] sounds with physiological effects (was: Rockoon & the
Toothache)
Fred (and anyone else interested),
You might want to check out Brain/Mind Reseach at:
http://www.inner-net.com/bmr/
They have all sorts of neat music-related meditation/relaxation gear,
including a 'sound therapy table', which is designed to resonate low
frequency direclty into your body. If you want to 'feel the music', this is
it!
They also have a number of recordings available, including discs of 'space
sounds' - actual recordings of electromagnetic waves emitted by various
celestial bodies in our solar system (recorded by Voyager and other space
probes), which is how I stumbled across them in the first place.
James
>
From:
'goozergrafx'
Date: Thu Apr 3, 2003 7:42
pm
Subject: Re: OT: Prog Music Store in Denton, TX
It really sucked for me, since I live here in Big D! I would visit RPM
at least once a month and Randy knew me well enough after shopping
there for 15 years to let me know the inside scoop on upcoming
goodies. There was *no* notice about the closing at all. I called one
day and the phone was disconnected and I drove by that weekend and the
shop was cleared out. Very sad.
goozer
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, moxica@a... wrote:
> That was it! Too bad to hear that they're no longer around; that
would explain
> why I fell off their mailing list.
>
> So... is Ranjit still around... :)
>
> - jim
>
> --
> Jim Moore, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> moxica@a...
> > In response to your abrupt inquiry, I provide the only information
I know
> > about RPM Records. They abruptly went out-of-business without so
much as a
> > note. Their .com has since lapsed and been acquired by a search
engine front.
> >
> > The relevant information was
> > RPM Records
> > A music store and video rental place that specializes in 'the
things you
> > can't get at Blockbuster Music'. Has a hefty collection of anime
on VHS
> > (300-400 titles) and laserdisc (more than 20 titles) for rent, and
also
> > sells some used anime tapes for about $12. They will order any
available
> > video or disc for 90% of the list price.
> > Mesquite: 565 Oates, Suite 110(about 3/4 mile north from the old
location)
> > (214)681-8441
> > -Morgan
From:
René Brenner
Date: Thu Apr 3, 2003 11:29
pm
Subject: TD Mellotron Sounds on Ebay
TD mellotron sounds for your home equipment:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2520648119&category=9813
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From:
'Administrator'
Date: Thu Apr 3, 2003 11:52
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] TD Mellotron Sounds on Ebay
1975 huh, what track do you think this might have been used on?
dale
----- Original Message -----
From: 'René Brenner'
To:
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 3:29 PM
Subject: [tadream] TD Mellotron Sounds on Ebay
> TD mellotron sounds for your home equipment:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2520648119&category=9813
>
>
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From:
'kayleighsdaddy'
Date: Thu Apr 3, 2003 11:36
pm
Subject: TT 3 Trade request
Hey all, just a curious request if ANYONE is up for a possible swap of TT 3? I
attempted to download at cable modem speed, and while my stuff flies (it's
flying faster than a 747 seriously), It's absolutely HUGE and MASSIVE, and I'd
almost rather swap for it openly and outright, rather than convert from SHN,
etc.
THANKS For the access to the people who provided me with the info, BUT I'd like
to see about a possible swap instead of having to spend the time
downloading/converting?
If you are interested, please e-mail me off the list. THANKS.
dan
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From:
'Andrei Stcherbatchenko'
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 4:17
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] TT 3 Trade request
Hi Dan,
I had only one branch in this tree, so I can burn copies of TT3 for you. Let
me know if you are still interested. I am in WA, USA.
Andrei
----- Original Message -----
From: 'kayleighsdaddy'
To: 'tadream'
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 3:36 PM
Subject: [tadream] TT 3 Trade request
> Hey all, just a curious request if ANYONE is up for a possible swap of TT
3? I attempted to download at cable modem speed, and while my stuff flies
(it's flying faster than a 747 seriously), It's absolutely HUGE and MASSIVE,
and I'd almost rather swap for it openly and outright, rather than convert
from SHN, etc.
>
> THANKS For the access to the people who provided me with the info, BUT I'd
like to see about a possible swap instead of having to spend the time
downloading/converting?
>
> If you are interested, please e-mail me off the list. THANKS.
>
> dan
From:
'Robert Asmus'
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 4:47
am
Subject: RE: [tadream] TT 3 Trade request
Dan,
I have been some what of a branch. I have hosted TT3 on my ftp and I
have also copied and mailed the TT3 disks to a member with no strings
attatched. I am on the east cost of the US in Rhode Island and if I can
help you get the set it will be no problem
Robert Asmus
-----Original Message-----
From: kayleighsdaddy [mailto:kayleighsdad@i...]
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 6:36 PM
To: tadream
Subject: [tadream] TT 3 Trade request
Hey all, just a curious request if ANYONE is up for a possible swap of
TT 3? I attempted to download at cable modem speed, and while my stuff
flies (it's flying faster than a 747 seriously), It's absolutely HUGE
and MASSIVE, and I'd almost rather swap for it openly and outright,
rather than convert from SHN, etc.
THANKS For the access to the people who provided me with the info, BUT
I'd like to see about a possible swap instead of having to spend the
time downloading/converting?
If you are interested, please e-mail me off the list. THANKS.
dan
The Rugrats Romper Room!!!
http://www.iloverugrats.com
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MSN Messenger (kayleighsdad@h...)
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From:
Heiko Heerssen
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 12:59
pm
Subject: Tangerine leaves announcement (long post)
Howdy!
last year (October 16th to be precise) I wrote the following to the
Tadream list:
'Hello Tadreamers,
I would like to announce an idea which may be of interest to those TD
afficionados who can't get enough of unreleased TD concerts:
another tree (oh no, not again ;-) called 'Tangerine leaves'
....which deals with releasing low generation audience recordings that
will not get included in the 'Tangerine Tree' series for various
reasons, like for example concerts of the 70s which have a more or
less mediocre sound quality even though we have a master tape or a copy
thereof (btw, 'mediocre' means that the recording is still listenable
and interesting,
and please keep in mind that every TD concert up to 1978 was totally
improvised), or master tape recordings from concert tours of the 80s and
90s where it's enough to use just the two best sources for the
'Tangerine Tree' series (because each gig within a concert tour had more
or less the same music with just very little improvisation, and for 'TT'
the most important factors are the variety of concerts and the sound
quality)
But I still would consider these concerts as interesting,
especially those from the early 80s where there was still room for
improvisation.
Of course all these recordings would get that special 'tree
remastering' which makes them stand above the rest (hopefully), and this
would also
be a good opportunity to create some more of the great artwork covers.'
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\
------------------------
Since then most of the time was spent for the preparation of Tangerine
Tree # 3, but now the first leaves can fall onto the ground (or into
your CD player ;-)
Tangerine leaves #1 will consist of 12 concerts and a total of 21 CDRs:
--> Volume 1: London Dominion Theatre 06 November 1982
--> Volume 2: Burg Nideggen 24 August 2002
--> Volume 3: York Minster 20 October 1975
--> Volume 4: Toronto Massey Hall 01 September 1988
--> Volume 5: Brussels Cirque Royal 17 March 1978
--> Volume 6: Coventry Cathedral 04 October 1975
--> Volume 7: Aachen Eurogress 21 January 1981
--> Volume 8: Dublin National Stadium 01 November 1980
--> Volume 9: Berlin Reichstag 29 August 1981
--> Volume 10: London Shepherds Bush Empire 30 November 1996 Pt 1
--> Volume 11: London Shepherds Bush Empire 30 November 1996 Pt 2
--> Volume 12: Ottawa Performing Arts Center 20 June 1986
(more details about the recording quality, tape generations etc. in a
separate mail!)
Just like 'TT' this tree will require another database and a sign-up
procedure, and Maff already promised me to take care of it. He will will
set up the database and post a follow-up message very soon, telling
everyone how this tree will function and how to sign up.
Unlike 'TT' I assume that not all the concerts within 'Tangerine leaves'
will appeal to everyone, so this means that most of the participants
will just select those concerts which they think might be good (maybe
you prove me wrong ;-).
*** I consider this tree to be much more interesting for those
afficionados who want to dig deeper into the unreleased live recordings
of Tangerine Dream, and this was also the reason why the first round has
a massive 21 CDRs to choose from***
ARTWORK: isn't ready yet, just wait for Matthew's announcement when he's
done with it. At the moment it's more important to get the database up
and running.
REDBOOK/ SHN: it seems we will need less 'branches' this time for
redbook CDs than we have for 'TT'. I haven't made up my mind yet about
the distribution via SHN discs (I'm more the 'standalone burner' guy who
knows absolutely nothing about shn/ftp etc. ;-) , so this needs some
further discussion and help is appreciated. Just like the start of TT
this is mostly 'learning by doing' here :-)
regards
your Tree man
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From:
Heiko Heerssen
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 12:59
pm
Subject: Tangerine leaves detailed concert list
Here is some more detailed information:
Volume 1: London Dominion Theatre 06 November 1982, 2 CDR, 117 min.
-> master tape copy, remastered by (Side Effects). The music is
identical to TT#2, Vol. 12 Croydon 1982. As most of you will know the
'Logos' album was taken from this performance, and you can still hear
the 'Tangerine Dream!' introduction (the 'Dominion in London, thanks for
being patient. Please welcome..' is missing here) Although the sound
quality isn't on par with that of Croydon 82 it's nevertheless the best
sounding recording from this show, and I would rate it 7/10 for sound
quality (music 10/10 :-) As a bonus we included an excerpt from the
soundcheck, a groovy improvisation which lasts for 8+ minutes.
Volume 2: Burg Nideggen Eifel-Festspiele 24 August 2002, 1 CDR, 79 min.
--> the music was taken from the I-NET TV webcast, so the sound quality
is very good (9/10 maybe). The music is pretty much identical to the
'Inferno' TDI release, but I'm sure that those who like the music will
also find this concert interesting :-)
Volume 3: York Minster 20 October 1975, 1 CDR, 79 min.
--> this recording will come as a big surprise because it is the REAL
York Minster show which so far has been heard by only very few people.
The tape that was circulating as York is in fact Manchester Hardrock 19
October 1975. York Minster is a master tape copy which has been
remastered by '3N', and what a great job he did (because the original
had a very poor sound and was in a bad condition) Although the sound
quality still isn't better than maybe 5-6/10, the slower, non-sequenced
parts are truly mindblowing and belong to the best I have heard from
that tour. Especially the first 8-9 minutes of the encore are just
*incredible* and gives me goosebumps each time I hear it, as does the
first 13 minutes of Track 1.
Volume 4: Toronto Massey Hall 01 September 1988, 2 CDRs, 118 min.
--> For the 'Tangerine Tree' we will most certainly release the New
Haven 9.9.88 soundboard tape, but until then this will be the first tree
recording from the 'Optical race' tour. Sound quality is close to 8/10,
and this was the concert were they had a power outage for a couple of
minutes during 'Marakesh', that's why it's only 1.01 minutes long :-)
Remastered by (Side Effects).
Volume 5: Brussels Cirque Royal 17 March 1978, 2 CDRs, 92 min.
--> most collectors will know that 1978 wasn't a good year for audience
recordings, nearly all of them had a rather bad sound quality and only 3
or 4 tapes were ok (but still miles away from recordings like for
example Nottingham 76, TT#1 Vol.1) Brussels Cirque Royal makes no
difference, sound quality is not better than 5-6/10. But it has been
remastered straight from the master tape and IMO it was one of TD's
better performances (there were some gigs during the 'Cyclone' tour
where the word 'untogether' would have been a compliment ;-) For those
who like Cyclone it's worth a try. Remastered by (Side Effects).
Volume 6: Coventry Cathedral 04 October 1975, 2 CDRs, 90 min.
--> a master tape recording of TD's first gig during their UK tour,
remastered by (Side Effects). Sound quality is maybe 5/10 only, but
still it is interesting for those who love the old TD mellotron sound.
The first track is very atmospheric and non-sequenced , the second and
longest track however has lots of variety..I'd really love to hear ED's
tape (in case it still exists). Thanks again to Chris W. for recording
and sharing :-)
Volume 7: Aachen Eurogress 21 January 1981, 2 CDRs, 108 min.
--> another great sounding recording from the European 1981 tour, and a
very special gig too. To quote Scott Plumer's 'Mysterious semblance: a
TD chronology': 'During an encore, the band left the stage, letting the
sequencers continue to play to a bemused audience. When the band
returned, they were wearing gorilla suits! Franke's mask was on upside
down. After walking around the stage, waving to the audience, they
returned to their positions and finished the show so clad' Remastered
by Analogue dreams.
Volume 8: Dublin National Stadium 01 November 1980, 2 CDRs, 106 min.
--> sound quality ca 7/10, remastered by (Side Effects). A great concert
which everyone seems to have enjoyed. Great keyboard solos (by Johannes
Schmoelling?) Also has a very interesting piano improvisation on Disc 1
where Schmoelling is playing a theme most of you will know, and which
caused a big roar from the crowd.
Volume 9: Berlin Reichstagsgelände 29 August 1981, 2 CDR, 94 min.
--> surely one, if not THE noisiest TD audience recording ever. This was
a 'free concert for nuclear disarmament and world peace' which was held
at the Platz der Republik. The music though is quite interesting as TD
played some tracks from the Wavelength soundtrack two years before its
release. Remastered by (Side Effects), sound quality ca. 7/10.
Volume 10 & 11: London Shepherds Bush Empire 30 November 1996, 3 CDRs,
192 min.
--> here you get almost everything: the complete DAT recording, all four
excerpts from the 'Radio Eins Elektrobeats' Shepherds Bush special in
studio sound quality, plus two tracks from the soundcheck. Sound quality
is also very good to excellent. Remastered by (Side Effects).
Volume 12: Ottawa National Arts Center 20 June 1986, 2 CDRs, 106 min.
--> a very good recording of a great concert which also has less talking
than Laguna Hills TT Vol. 24. Sound quality 7-8/10, remastered by (Side
Effects). I love everything TD played during the 'Underwater sunlight'
tour, so you will never hear any complaints from me :-)
Heiko
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From:
René Brenner
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 12:51
pm
Subject: Re: Tangerine leaves announcement (long post)
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Heiko Heerssen
> REDBOOK/ SHN: it seems we will need less 'branches' this time for
> redbook CDs than we have for 'TT'. I haven't made up my mind yet about
> the distribution via SHN discs (I'm more the 'standalone burner' guy who
> knows absolutely nothing about shn/ftp etc. ;-) , so this needs some
> further discussion and help is appreciated.
Hi,
SHN is absolutely necessary these days ;-)
From:
Armin Theissen
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 1:03
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Tangerine leaves detailed concert list
Hi,
I'd be interested in this tree, for I was sitting next to the
bootlegger in Aachen and you can hear me and my cousin
talking all the time... #-)
armin
Heiko Heerssen wrote:
> Here is some more detailed information:
>
> Volume 1: London Dominion Theatre 06 November 1982, 2 CDR, 117 min.
> -> master tape copy, remastered by (Side Effects). The music is
> identical to TT#2, Vol. 12 Croydon 1982. As most of you will know the
> 'Logos' album was taken from this performance, and you can still hear
> the 'Tangerine Dream!' introduction (the 'Dominion in London, thanks for
> being patient. Please welcome..' is missing here) Although the sound
> quality isn't on par with that of Croydon 82 it's nevertheless the best
> sounding recording from this show, and I would rate it 7/10 for sound
> quality (music 10/10 :-) As a bonus we included an excerpt from the
> soundcheck, a groovy improvisation which lasts for 8+ minutes.
>
> Volume 2: Burg Nideggen Eifel-Festspiele 24 August 2002, 1 CDR, 79 min.
> --> the music was taken from the I-NET TV webcast, so the sound quality
> is very good (9/10 maybe). The music is pretty much identical to the
> 'Inferno' TDI release, but I'm sure that those who like the music will
> also find this concert interesting :-)
>
> Volume 3: York Minster 20 October 1975, 1 CDR, 79 min.
> --> this recording will come as a big surprise because it is the REAL
> York Minster show which so far has been heard by only very few people.
> The tape that was circulating as York is in fact Manchester Hardrock 19
> October 1975. York Minster is a master tape copy which has been
> remastered by '3N', and what a great job he did (because the original
> had a very poor sound and was in a bad condition) Although the sound
> quality still isn't better than maybe 5-6/10, the slower, non-sequenced
> parts are truly mindblowing and belong to the best I have heard from
> that tour. Especially the first 8-9 minutes of the encore are just
> *incredible* and gives me goosebumps each time I hear it, as does the
> first 13 minutes of Track 1.
>
> Volume 4: Toronto Massey Hall 01 September 1988, 2 CDRs, 118 min.
> --> For the 'Tangerine Tree' we will most certainly release the New
> Haven 9.9.88 soundboard tape, but until then this will be the first tree
> recording from the 'Optical race' tour. Sound quality is close to 8/10,
> and this was the concert were they had a power outage for a couple of
> minutes during 'Marakesh', that's why it's only 1.01 minutes long :-)
> Remastered by (Side Effects).
>
> Volume 5: Brussels Cirque Royal 17 March 1978, 2 CDRs, 92 min.
> --> most collectors will know that 1978 wasn't a good year for audience
> recordings, nearly all of them had a rather bad sound quality and only 3
> or 4 tapes were ok (but still miles away from recordings like for
> example Nottingham 76, TT#1 Vol.1) Brussels Cirque Royal makes no
> difference, sound quality is not better than 5-6/10. But it has been
> remastered straight from the master tape and IMO it was one of TD's
> better performances (there were some gigs during the 'Cyclone' tour
> where the word 'untogether' would have been a compliment ;-) For those
> who like Cyclone it's worth a try. Remastered by (Side Effects).
>
> Volume 6: Coventry Cathedral 04 October 1975, 2 CDRs, 90 min.
> --> a master tape recording of TD's first gig during their UK tour,
> remastered by (Side Effects). Sound quality is maybe 5/10 only, but
> still it is interesting for those who love the old TD mellotron sound.
> The first track is very atmospheric and non-sequenced , the second and
> longest track however has lots of variety..I'd really love to hear ED's
> tape (in case it still exists). Thanks again to Chris W. for recording
> and sharing :-)
>
> Volume 7: Aachen Eurogress 21 January 1981, 2 CDRs, 108 min.
> --> another great sounding recording from the European 1981 tour, and a
> very special gig too. To quote Scott Plumer's 'Mysterious semblance: a
> TD chronology': 'During an encore, the band left the stage, letting the
> sequencers continue to play to a bemused audience. When the band
> returned, they were wearing gorilla suits! Franke's mask was on upside
> down. After walking around the stage, waving to the audience, they
> returned to their positions and finished the show so clad' Remastered
> by Analogue dreams.
>
> Volume 8: Dublin National Stadium 01 November 1980, 2 CDRs, 106 min.
> --> sound quality ca 7/10, remastered by (Side Effects). A great concert
> which everyone seems to have enjoyed. Great keyboard solos (by Johannes
> Schmoelling?) Also has a very interesting piano improvisation on Disc 1
> where Schmoelling is playing a theme most of you will know, and which
> caused a big roar from the crowd.
>
> Volume 9: Berlin Reichstagsgelände 29 August 1981, 2 CDR, 94 min.
> --> surely one, if not THE noisiest TD audience recording ever. This was
> a 'free concert for nuclear disarmament and world peace' which was held
> at the Platz der Republik. The music though is quite interesting as TD
> played some tracks from the Wavelength soundtrack two years before its
> release. Remastered by (Side Effects), sound quality ca. 7/10.
>
> Volume 10 & 11: London Shepherds Bush Empire 30 November 1996, 3 CDRs,
> 192 min.
> --> here you get almost everything: the complete DAT recording, all four
> excerpts from the 'Radio Eins Elektrobeats' Shepherds Bush special in
> studio sound quality, plus two tracks from the soundcheck. Sound quality
> is also very good to excellent. Remastered by (Side Effects).
>
> Volume 12: Ottawa National Arts Center 20 June 1986, 2 CDRs, 106 min.
> --> a very good recording of a great concert which also has less talking
> than Laguna Hills TT Vol. 24. Sound quality 7-8/10, remastered by (Side
> Effects). I love everything TD played during the 'Underwater sunlight'
> tour, so you will never hear any complaints from me :-)
>
> Heiko
>
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Falcon
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 1:03
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Tangerine leaves detailed concert list
Hi,
At 03:03 PM 4/4/2003, you wrote:
>I'd be interested in this tree, for I was sitting next to the
>bootlegger in Aachen and you can hear me and my cousin
>talking all the time... #-)
i'm wondering, if you're the 'werewolf' guy who was howling all the time ;-)
Ramon
From:
'Rundgren, Olof (STOPT)'
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 1:20
pm
Subject: Mota Atma - the Prequel?
Here's an awkward story, to lighten up this chilly Friday afternoon:
The other day I passed a fair in a suburb of Stockholm. At one spot there
was a young guy selling CDs and I just glanced through what he had. To my
great surprise
there was a CD called Mota Atma with Tangerine Dream. Cover Picture looked
familiar but there was no track info on the back.
It was wrapped in plastic so I couldn't look at the disc. It seems as the
vendor present wasn't the owner of the discs because all the info I could
get out of him was that 'It is a bootleg'.
I couldn't buy it either as he wanted 300 SEK for it and at the time I
didn't have that in my pocket and honestly don't know if I would have payed
it even if I had (The teaser-track on the Astoria single didn't make me long
for the new release, sorry).
Am I the first here to spot an item like this or..?
Olle
From:
Armin Theissen
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 1:37
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Tangerine leaves detailed concert list
eh, Heiko already asked me (in private) whether I
was jodelling. Hey, I may not have been the only one
in the audible surroundings of the bootlegger who
was making noise. I was not howling or jodelling
or anything like that, but just once in a while talking
and occasionally laughing (especially at that
gorilla-mask incident)
I also have three pictures of the concert on the web.
Go to http://star.arm.ac.uk/~ath/td/tadream.html and
look for 'photos' and 'Aachen 81'
I also have slides but not on the web.
armin
Falcon wrote:
> Hi,
>
> At 03:03 PM 4/4/2003, you wrote:
> >I'd be interested in this tree, for I was sitting next to the
> >bootlegger in Aachen and you can hear me and my cousin
> >talking all the time... #-)
>
> i'm wondering, if you're the 'werewolf' guy who was howling all the time ;-)
>
> Ramon
>
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>
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> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
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From:
'Tom Richmond'
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 3:03
pm
Subject: Between the Stars, tribute CDR tree
Last call for sign-ups for the 'Between the Stars' tribute CDR
If you're interested please a message with the following info to
trichmond@b...:
Name
City/State/Country
preferred status, Leaf or Branch
(if you wish to be a branch, let me know how many copies you can do)
Thanks!
Tom
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From:
shez@a...
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 3:11
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Collection Sale
I don't believe someone who have many of these CD's will pay a so high
price to get only the rare items.
And I don't believe too that someone who don't know the band will pay
that much for a full collection.
After, all, it's not fun in my opinion to get the collection of
someone, collecting is something very personal and must be done during
the time.
On Wed, 02 Apr 2003 14:44:05 +0200, you wrote:
>I guess that if I would send:
>'over 120 CD’s ,18 Videos, 75 Cassettes, 3 T -Shirts, and 24 Solo Member Cd’s
>,History of TD Book , and a Reference Guide' [quote] to someone living outside
>of Europe, it would already cost me US$3000 for paying the airmail postage
>~LOL~
>Some of the stuff is really very rare, but I doubt that someone will use the
>'buy it now' option. And the 'imported CD' list is a bit..erm...well :-)
>
>> It must be. I see Peter Raven has bid on it.
>
>well I fear that $100 is just a bit too low to meet the guy's reserve price ;-)
>
>Heiko
>
>
>
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>
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>http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
From:
christopher.christou@b...
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 10:15
am
Subject: RE: [tadream] TT 3 Trade request
Hello All,
This is in fact my first post to the group, although I have been a member for
some months now, and have followed the recent posts with much interest.
I would be very interested in a set of the TT3 discs, and would be prepared to
trade or perhaps B&P, if any kind soul is able to help. I have only modem
access, and at the time of treeing was unable to participate.
I would very much appreciate any help with this. Please mail me off-list if
anyone can help.
Thanks
Regards
Chris C
From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 5:20
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Tangerine leaves detailed concert list
Hi Heiko, could you please further specify a few things..?
>Volume 1: London Dominion Theatre 06 November 1982
>--an excerpt from the
>soundcheck, a groovy improvisation which lasts for 8+ minutes.
'Excerpt'? Does this mean that there actually is more than those 8 minutes?
>Volume 7: Aachen Eurogress 21 January 1981
Is this in any significant way, for example keyboard-solo-vise, different
from TT14?
>Volume 9: Berlin Reichstagsgelände 29 August 1981
>--> surely one, if not THE noisiest TD audience recording ever.
Does 'noisy' mean 'people shouting to buddies on the other side of the
venue' or 'tape hiss going Snap Crackle & Pop'?
thanks.
John Vertical
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From:
'Colin Jouxson'
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 6:37
pm
Subject: Tangerine Dream-Croyden 31,10,82
This surely must be one of their all time best,it gives me an
incredible buzz everytime i listen,no wonder they were the GREATEST.
Tangerine Dream-its just like the first night you meet your
wife.UNTOUCHABLE.
NP Royal Albert Hall 2,4,75. Probably the Greatest concert of all
time,they were just to good.
From:
'Bill Fox'
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 9:57
pm
Subject: EMUSIC Playlist #315 for April 3, 2003
EMUSIC is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday
at 11:00 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton,
PA and Phillipsburg, NJ.
Show #315 April 3, 2003.
RECAP:
On this show, I began a month-long focus on vidnaObmana, an international
ambient artist from Belgium who will play an in-studio radio concert on the
April 17th broadcast of EMUSIC and a concert at the next Soundscapes in
Bethlehem, Pennsylvania on April 19. The Featured CD at Midnight was 'Act One:
Echoes of Steel' on the Hypnos label from the ongoing work, 'An Opera for Four
Fusion Works.'
The Vinyl Starter was from the LP 'Pictures at an Exhibition' by Tomita on RCA
Red Seal.
I played the music of Vir Unis and James Johnson who will be at the next
Gathering on April 12 in Philadelphia. I also played the music of Jason Sloan
who, with Matt Borghi, will appears on the same bill with vidnaObmana at the
Gate to Moonbase Alpha on April 18 also in Philadelphia.
vidnaObmana http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic/playlists/2003/focus03.html#apr
Soundscapes, Gathering, Gate to Moonbase Alpha,
Vir Unis and James Johnson, Sloan Sloan and Matt Borghi
http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic/events.html
PLAYLIST:
ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label)
======================= ======================== ==============================
11:00 pm
Tomita Promenade Pictures at an Exhibition (RCA
Red Seal)
Tomita The Gnome Pictures at an Exhibition (RCA
Red Seal)
Joint Intelligence Ed Wood Grow (Bogus Focus)
Committee
John Lakveet Anabasis Epikus (Groove)
The 10th Planet A Trip to the Registry The Man Who Never Was (none)
of Motor Vehicles
Vir Unis and Cartesian Plane 3 Perimeter (In the Bubble Music
James Johnson and Zero Music)
Umlaut Tiny Pushing Circles A Sketch in the Earth (Space
for Music)
Darshan Ambient Wanting The Zen Master's Diary (none)
Jason Sloan Towards Some Inward A Quiet Return (Grey Area
Light Studio Recordings)
12:00 am
vidnaObmana IV Echoes of Steel (Hypnos)
vidnaObmana V Echoes of Steel (Hypnos)
vidnaObmana III Echoes of Steel (Hypnos)
vidnaObmana II Echoes of Steel (Hypnos)
vidnaObmana I Echoes of Steel (Hypnos)
1:00 am
* = exerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)
NEXT SHOW:
On the next EMUSIC, I'll continue the month-long focus on vidnaObmana. The
Featured CD at Midnight will be 'Spore' on the Release label.
The vinyl show starter will be from the LP 'Ages,' an LP by Edgar Froese on
Virgin Records.
I will also play the music of Vir Unis and James Johnson as well as Matt Borghi
and Jason Sloan who will be appearing at area concerts in April.
Bill
===============================================================================
Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11
pm (GMT-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton
and Phillipsburg. Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN
EMUSIC web site - http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic
To subscribe to the EMUSIC-on-WDIY mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at
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From:
'Jeff Lester'
Date: Sat Apr 5, 2003 12:02
am
Subject: Re: Tangerine leaves detailed concert list
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Armin Theissen
wrote:
> I also have three pictures of the concert on the web.
> Go to http://star.arm.ac.uk/~ath/td/tadream.html and
> look for 'photos' and 'Aachen 81'
Neat photos. One minor point, the guitar in front of Edgar that you
can only see the neck and headstock of does indeed look like a Gibson
Les Paul, but the other doesn't look like a Gibson. The one that you
can see part of the red body between the monitor speakers looks like
a Hamer. Kind of like this one:
http://www.gmwguitars.com/miscphoto/hamer.jpg
-Jeff Lester
From:
'Matthew Sawyer'
Date: Sat Apr 5, 2003 12:09
am
Subject: Tangerine Leaves Sign Up Instructions
From: 'Heiko Heerssen'
> Just like 'TT' this tree will require another database and a sign-up
> procedure, and Maff already promised me to take care of it. He will will
> set up the database and post a follow-up message very soon, telling
> everyone how this tree will function and how to sign up.
And here are those signup instructions.
As Heiko has already mentioned, Tangerine Leaves #1 will consist of a whopping
21 CDR's, and we are assuming that most people will want to pick and choose only
the volumes that interest them the most. Therefore, like the Classic Tree you'll
all have the option to nominate the volumes you would like to receive when you
sign up. You can have them all of course, or just a handful or even just one.
Below is the list of concerts for TL1; please note the volume numbers next to
each one:
--> Volume 1: London Dominion Theatre 06 November 1982
--> Volume 2: Burg Nideggen 24 August 2002
--> Volume 3: York Minster 20 October 1975
--> Volume 4: Toronto Massey Hall 01 September 1988
--> Volume 5: Brussels Cirque Royal 17 March 1978
--> Volume 6: Coventry Cathedral 04 October 1975
--> Volume 7: Aachen Eurogress 21 January 1981
--> Volume 8: Dublin National Stadium 01 November 1980
--> Volume 9: Berlin Reichstag 29 August 1981
--> Volume 10: London Shepherds Bush Empire 30 November 1996 Pt 1
--> Volume 11: London Shepherds Bush Empire 30 November 1996 Pt 2
--> Volume 12: Ottawa Performing Arts Center 20 June 1986
To sign up as part of Tangerine Leaves #1, visit the Yahoo groups database page
located at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tadream/database , where you'll find a
database marked 'Tangerine Leaves 1 - Sign Up'. Click the database, and then
select Add Record and enter the following details:
Full Name -
E-Mail - a suitable email address your supplier can contact you at.
Location -
Branch/Leaf - whether you will take part as a branch or a leaf.
# Leaves - the number of leaves you will support as a branch.
Redbook/SHN - your preferred format.
Preferred Supplier - if you have a preferred supplier that you have dealt with
before, who is taking part in TL1, I'll attempt to match you up in the tree. Be
warned though, I'm making no promises.
Volumes - list the volumes you want to receive, using the volume numbers in the
list above. Example: If you want just Dominion 82, Toronto 88 and Brussels 78,
enter '1,4,5'. If you want them all, just enter 'all'.
A few notes:
o If you are unable to use the database for some reason, e-mail me your details
to and I'll add you to the
database. If you can use the database though, please do so.
o Permanent Tangerine Tree participants will NOT be automatically added to TL1.
This is a very different project, so if you want to take part you'll need to
sign up again .
o If you are signing up as a branch, _please_ consider seriously how many leaves
you can support. We'd rather have a reliable branch supporting one or two leaves
than an unreliable branch offering to support five leaves.
o Anyone with band photos, especially ones from the concerts in TL1, feel free
to email them to me for inclusion in the covers. You'll get a credit. :-).
Maff
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From:
Morgan Feldon
Date: Sat Apr 5, 2003 1:09
am
Subject: Tangerine Leaves
> >Volume 9: Berlin Reichstagsgelände 29 August 1981
> >--> surely one, if not THE noisiest TD audience recording ever.
>
>Does 'noisy' mean 'people shouting to buddies on the other side of the
>venue' or 'tape hiss going Snap Crackle & Pop'?
Astoundingly loud audience participation/noise. You'd think it were a
football (soccer) match. And that's before the fireworks start going off.
Still the music is nice. :)
-Morgan
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From:
'dweller_benthos'
Date: Sat Apr 5, 2003 3:43
am
Subject: Re: Tangerine Leaves Sign Up Instructions
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Matthew Sawyer'
wrote:
> o Anyone with band photos, especially ones from the concerts in
TL1, feel free
> to email them to me for inclusion in the covers. You'll get a
credit. :-).
>
>
> Maff
Is there going to be slipcase/box artwork? For 12 discs, that would
be pretty big, not to mention difficult to print out. TT3 with 10
discs was hard enough, it just barely fit on a sheet of Super B
paper, and that was with little room for overlap. Might I suggest two
slipcases for 6 discs each? Of course, a big slipcase would be a good
excuse to buy that 32 foot roll of inkjet paper I've been meaning to
get to print out those huge panoramas.
From:
'Adele Outland'
Date: Sat Apr 5, 2003 6:17
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Franke or Baumann?
Very nice web page! I also checked out Pavel's site with your link and it
seems to me there is an error. The very last picture has the caption of
Franke being at the instrument, but...it looks very much like Baumann
instead to me. Franke always wore glasses and his hair is darker. Anybody
else agree? 8-Dell
As time slips into memory, memory fades into dreams.
>From: Armin Theissen
>Reply-To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
>To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [tadream] Tangerine leaves detailed concert list
>Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 14:37:12 +0100
>
>I also have three pictures of the concert on the web.
>Go to http://star.arm.ac.uk/~ath/td/tadream.html and
>look for 'photos' and 'Aachen 81'
>
>I also have slides but not on the web.
>
>armin
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From:
Date: Sat Apr 5, 2003 7:12
am
Subject: RE: [tadream] Tangerine Leaves Sign Up Instructions
Hi folks,
Just a quick question before signing up: are you going to make the SHN's
downloadable?
For people having a fixed internet connection this is the best way to get
the CD's. And the covers, of course...
cheers
__________________________
Jarek 'Jerry'
mailto:jarek@w...
Visit my websites at:
http://www.tangerinedream.pl/
http://www.klausmusic.pl/
http://www.wiktorowicz.pl/
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Sawyer [mailto:matthewsawyer@b...]
> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 2:09 AM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [tadream] Tangerine Leaves Sign Up Instructions
>
>
> From: 'Heiko Heerssen'
>
> > Just like 'TT' this tree will require another database and a sign-up
> > procedure, and Maff already promised me to take care of it.
> He will will
> > set up the database and post a follow-up message very soon, telling
> > everyone how this tree will function and how to sign up.
>
>
> And here are those signup instructions.
>
> As Heiko has already mentioned, Tangerine Leaves #1 will
> consist of a whopping
> 21 CDR's, and we are assuming that most people will want to
> pick and choose only
> the volumes that interest them the most. Therefore, like the
> Classic Tree you'll
> all have the option to nominate the volumes you would like to
> receive when you
> sign up. You can have them all of course, or just a handful
> or even just one.
> Below is the list of concerts for TL1; please note the volume
> numbers next to
> each one:
>
> --> Volume 1: London Dominion Theatre 06 November 1982
> --> Volume 2: Burg Nideggen 24 August 2002
> --> Volume 3: York Minster 20 October 1975
> --> Volume 4: Toronto Massey Hall 01 September 1988
> --> Volume 5: Brussels Cirque Royal 17 March 1978
> --> Volume 6: Coventry Cathedral 04 October 1975
> --> Volume 7: Aachen Eurogress 21 January 1981
> --> Volume 8: Dublin National Stadium 01 November 1980
> --> Volume 9: Berlin Reichstag 29 August 1981
> --> Volume 10: London Shepherds Bush Empire 30 November 1996 Pt 1
> --> Volume 11: London Shepherds Bush Empire 30 November 1996 Pt 2
> --> Volume 12: Ottawa Performing Arts Center 20 June 1986
>
>
> To sign up as part of Tangerine Leaves #1, visit the Yahoo
> groups database page
> located at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tadream/database ,
> where you'll find a
> database marked 'Tangerine Leaves 1 - Sign Up'. Click the
> database, and then
> select Add Record and enter the following details:
>
> Full Name -
> E-Mail - a suitable email address your supplier can contact you at.
> Location -
> Branch/Leaf - whether you will take part as a branch or a leaf.
> # Leaves - the number of leaves you will support as a branch.
> Redbook/SHN - your preferred format.
> Preferred Supplier - if you have a preferred supplier that
> you have dealt with
> before, who is taking part in TL1, I'll attempt to match you
> up in the tree. Be
> warned though, I'm making no promises.
> Volumes - list the volumes you want to receive, using the
> volume numbers in the
> list above. Example: If you want just Dominion 82, Toronto 88
> and Brussels 78,
> enter '1,4,5'. If you want them all, just enter 'all'.
>
>
> A few notes:
>
> o If you are unable to use the database for some reason,
> e-mail me your details
> to and I'll add
> you to the
> database. If you can use the database though, please do so.
>
> o Permanent Tangerine Tree participants will NOT be
> automatically added to TL1.
> This is a very different project, so if you want to take part
> you'll need to
> sign up again .
>
> o If you are signing up as a branch, _please_ consider
> seriously how many leaves
> you can support. We'd rather have a reliable branch
> supporting one or two leaves
> than an unreliable branch offering to support five leaves.
>
> o Anyone with band photos, especially ones from the concerts
> in TL1, feel free
> to email them to me for inclusion in the covers. You'll get a
> credit. :-).
>
>
> Maff
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
From:
'michael_berling'
Date: Sat Apr 5, 2003 12:21
pm
Subject: TT3 for trade
Hi folks,
I still have a complete set of TT3-Rebbook-CDs for trade (17 TDK CD-
R). I have done them directly from the SHN set I had created from
Heiko's master discs for TT3 to check the set for completeness before
distribution.
I prefer to offer the set to someone inside Germany due to lower
postage cost -- otherwise I'd like to do a trade for some interesting
non-TD material.
[An die deutschen Leser: Ich bevorzuge eine Erstattung meiner Kosten
für Rohlinge und Porto durch eine Banküberweisung.]
Please contact me off-list -- thanks.
Regards,
Michael
From:
PENFOLD
Date: Sat Apr 5, 2003 3:21
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] TD references in unexpected places
At 2003.04.02-16:29, Owens, James wrote:
>I built an RPG adventure based on the opening words (the vocoder voice) to
>'Bent Cold Sidewalk'.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Vertical [mailto:johnvertical@h...]
>
> > I'm building an RPG and throwing in things like Cinnamon Road, Goblins'
> Club, Twin Soul Tribe...
A few years back I had a gaming group that ran an RPG based in the
Star Trek universe, we all took turns GM-ing.
My adventure had the crew transporting a group of performers
called 'The Dream' fronted by a chap by the name of Salvador Froese to a
post first contact cultural exchange 'contest' in the UFP's bid to win
import/export rights.
The people of this planet used music and performance to settle
conflicts and to honour the dearly departed.
While I was running the part of the concert taking place I had
_Green Desert_ playing in the background.
Fortunately for the Federation, the Ferengi's taste in music, let
alone performance leaves a lot to be desired.
Pete Isaacson aka °º¤ø,¸DJ DreamHead¸,ø¤º°
mailto:penfold@a...?subject=DJDreamHead
http://www.anet.net/~penfold/)^(djdreamhead.html
Yahoo Chat: penfold235 ····· AIM: PENFOLD235
1984, Saw 'The Keep' LP at Tower Records, actually held it, didn't have the
$$.....Damn!!!!!
'Absence of the KEEP LP is not evidence of its non-existence.' - Steven
Feldman
Watch the Coasters Grow! at: http://www.anet.net/~penfold/coastergarden.html
From:
René Brenner
Date: Sun Apr 6, 2003 2:39
am
Subject: Tangerine Leaves SHN Root
I'm glad to see Michael offering to be the SHN root again, he really
did an outstanding job last time!
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From:
Éric Rochon
Date: Sun Apr 6, 2003 1:10
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Tangerine Leaves Sign Up Instructions
Hi Matthew
Could you add my name to the tree ?
Regard
Éric
From:
'Glenn Folkvord \(Hyperion Media\)'
Date: Sun Apr 6, 2003 1:50
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Most well known movie songs
Hey gang,
My search for TD movie music ended up in this inclusion in my radio
programme yesterday (could have used more TD, but wanted a variety of
artists):
Clayton / Mullen: Mission Impossible theme
Klaus Doldinger: Das Boot
Vangelis: Theme from Antarctica
JM Jarre: La Chanson des Granges Brulees
Hans Zimmer: Broken Arrow theme
John Carpenter: Helloween 2 (theme song)
Tangerine Dream: Love on a real train
Michel Rubini: Graham's theme
Alan Silvestri: Delta Force theme
Fabio Frizzi: Apoteosi del Mistero
Goblin: Sleepwalking
Harold Faltermeyer: Mick's Broadcast
Peter Best: Crocodile Dundee (end theme)
Craig Padilla: Dark Woods (main theme)
Vangelis: Blade Runner end titles
Glenn
From:
Felna Greymane
Date: Sun Apr 6, 2003 10:49
pm
Subject: Tangerine Leaves
How much improvement (if any) is there in Vol 10 & 11 (Shepherd's Bush)
over Persistence of vision? POV was pretty clean to start with.
Jeff
From:
'Robert Asmus'
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 2:45
am
Subject: OT: It has been pretty quiet this weekend
Everybody must be busy as it is very quiet this weekend
Robert Asmus
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From:
Heiko Heerssen
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 6:37
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Tangerine Leaves
> How much improvement (if any) is there in Vol 10 & 11 (Shepherd's Bush)
> over Persistence of vision? POV was pretty clean to start with.
less hiss, more bass...I think you will like it :-)
Heiko
From:
Heiko Heerssen
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 6:45
am
Subject: TT1 trade request from Argentina
I received an email from an Argentine TD fan who would like to receive
the TT1 discs from me. Since the postage costs are a bit heavy here in
Germany ($9 airmail for TT1) I'm therefore asking if some Argentine
Tadream member (or from surrrounding countries like Brazil or Chile) who
already has TT1 can get in touch with me, so that he can arrange a trade
with him.
Heiko
From:
Heiko Heerssen
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 8:25
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Tangerine leaves detailed concert list
> >Volume 1: London Dominion Theatre 06 November 1982
> >--an excerpt from the
> >soundcheck, a groovy improvisation which lasts for 8+ minutes.
>
> 'Excerpt'? Does this mean that there actually is more than those 8 minutes?
the soundcheck also contains two versions of 'Midnight in Tula'.
> >Volume 7: Aachen Eurogress 21 January 1981
>
> Is this in any significant way, for example keyboard-solo-vise, different
> from TT14?
well the music is basically the same as TT14, however there is still some
variation in the keyboard solos, most noticeably during 'Calymba Caly' and
'Thermal inversion'. Especially for the 1980/81 world tour I think that every
good sounding concert is worth having because there was still room for some
variation and improvisation (imo this was quite different during the 'Logos'
tour where every concert sounded almost 100% identical)
> >Volume 9: Berlin Reichstagsgelände 29 August 1981
> >--> surely one, if not THE noisiest TD audience recording ever.
>
> Does 'noisy' mean 'people shouting to buddies on the other side of the
> venue' or 'tape hiss going Snap Crackle & Pop'?
lots of stupid and most probably drunken fans who scream 'Hinsetzen' (sit down)
all the time. Even worse than the two stoned guys (although at least one of
them wore a TD t-shirt I'd rather not call them fans ;-) who kept dancing and
talking left to me during the almost entire London Astoria 2003 gig.
Heiko
From:
'Georg Oppenberg'
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 8:43
am
Subject: RE: RE: Tangerine Leaves Sign Up Instructions
Hi Jerry,
I will gladly offer my fast FTP server ftp://tl.rondua.de for SHN
download. This worked well for TT3 in cooperation with Michael Berling,
so I think we're a good team now and get this up very quickly!
Cheers
Georg
> Hi folks,
>
> Just a quick question before signing up: are you going to
> make the SHN's downloadable? For people having a fixed
> internet connection this is the best way to get the CD's. And
> the covers, of course...
>
> cheers
>
> __________________________
> Jarek 'Jerry'
> mailto:jarek@w...
> Visit my websites at:
> http://www.tangerinedream.pl/
> http://www.klausmusic.pl/
> http://www.wiktorowicz.pl/
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From:
'duncan mckee'
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 9:07
am
Subject: edgar froese cds
hi all
i am having to let go more of my collection so i have put up on ebay my entire
Edgar Froese cd collection
it can be found here :-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2521863958
There is a Reserve on this Auction.
The Macular Transfer is the original Manikan Release not the Grey Bootleg
floating around.
happy Bidding :-)))
Thanks
Duncan McKee
tangram@t...
www.tadream.co.uk
www.tangerine-dream.co.uk
MSN Messenger dmckee20@h...
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From:
edgar-rainer.berberich@g...
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 10:01
am
Subject: Classic Tree Box Covers
Hello folks,
I have received my copies of cle Classic Tree (Thanx to René) and i have
the following question:
Is there exists some covers for a box-set same as tt1, tt2 or tt3 ?
Mit freundlichem Grüßen / best regards
Edgar Rainer Berberich
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From:
'matthewsawyer'
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 10:15
am
Subject: Re: Classic Tree Box Covers
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, edgar-rainer.berberich@g... wrote:
> Hello folks,
>
> I have received my copies of cle Classic Tree (Thanx to René)
and i
have
> the following question:
> Is there exists some covers for a box-set same as tt1, tt2 or tt3 ?
You can download the available covers from these links:
http://www.matthewsawyer.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tdtree/ct_20th.zip
http://www.matthewsawyer.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tdtree/ct_antarktis.zip
http://www.matthewsawyer.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tdtree/ct_berlin.zip
http://www.matthewsawyer.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tdtree/ct_cologne.zip
http://www.matthewsawyer.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tdtree/ct_liveimprov.zip
http://www.matthewsawyer.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tdtree/ct_strangeatt.zip
http://www.matthewsawyer.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tdtree/ct_trs.zip
Maff
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From:
'michael_berling'
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 12:59
pm
Subject: Re: Tangerine Leaves SHN Root
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, René Brenner
wrote:
> I'm glad to see Michael offering to be the SHN root again, he really
> did an outstanding job last time!
Thanks, René! :-)
To all: I will receive most of the masters from Heiko this week and
will start preparing the SHNs then.
One note about the SHN discs: Most probably it will be necessary once
again to split some volumes (like in TT2 and TT3) to reduce the
number of SHN discs. This might cause some inconvenience to those SHN
branches whose descendants want their discs in SHN format, but don't
want all volumes. Thus I'd like to suggest that all tree members who
want to get their SHN via disc (not via download) should order the
complete set instead of single volumes. As far as I see, those who
have currently signed in for SHN discs did all sign in for the full
set. :-)
Anyway, I'll try to split as few volumes as possible.
I'll keep you informed about the number of discs needed asap. I'd
like to include the cover artwork again, on condition that Maff is
able to finish his work until distribution starts.
Regards,
Michael
From:
'michael_berling'
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 1:04
pm
Subject: Re: Tangerine Leaves Sign Up Instructions
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Georg Oppenberg'
wrote:
> Hi Jerry,
>
> I will gladly offer my fast FTP server ftp://tl.rondua.de for SHN
> download. This worked well for TT3 in cooperation with Michael
Berling,
> so I think we're a good team now and get this up very quickly!
>
> Cheers
> Georg
That's fine with me. I'll send Georg one of the SHN sets as soon as
they are complete.
Thanks, Georg, for your offer. I think your service is highly
appreciated by many list members!
Regards
Michael
>
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > Just a quick question before signing up: are you going to
> > make the SHN's downloadable? For people having a fixed
> > internet connection this is the best way to get the CD's. And
> > the covers, of course...
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > __________________________
> > Jarek 'Jerry'
> > mailto:jarek@w...
> > Visit my websites at:
> > http://www.tangerinedream.pl/
> > http://www.klausmusic.pl/
> > http://www.wiktorowicz.pl/
From:
Armin Theissen
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 1:24
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Franke or Baumann?
Oh I'm sure there are tons of dead links and the one or other
mistake. Since I work for SUN Microsystems, I don't have any
time. But I quit soon... ;-)
a.
Adele Outland wrote:
> Very nice web page! I also checked out Pavel's site with your link and it
> seems to me there is an error. The very last picture has the caption of
> Franke being at the instrument, but...it looks very much like Baumann
> instead to me. Franke always wore glasses and his hair is darker. Anybody
> else agree? 8-Dell
>
>
>
> As time slips into memory, memory fades into dreams.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>From: Armin Theissen
>>Reply-To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
>>To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
>>Subject: Re: [tadream] Tangerine leaves detailed concert list
>>Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 14:37:12 +0100
>>
>>I also have three pictures of the concert on the web.
>>Go to http://star.arm.ac.uk/~ath/td/tadream.html and
>>look for 'photos' and 'Aachen 81'
>>
>>I also have slides but not on the web.
>>
>>armin
>>
>
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From:
olle.rundgren@s...
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 2:51
pm
Subject: Mota Atma
To those who wrote to me off-list after my Mota Atma-message; I'll get back
to You within a few days.
Thanks
/Olle
From:
'dweller_benthos'
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 3:13
pm
Subject: Re: Classic Tree Box Covers
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'matthewsawyer'
wrote:
>
> You can download the available covers from these links:
>
I worked up some more artwork for this set in anticipation of getting
the discs in trade, want a look at them? I did discs, back covers,
and inside tray art. I wanted to use all clear cases for this set, so
I gave them a similar appearance, but kept any exisiting art intact.
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From:
'matthewsawyer'
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 3:24
pm
Subject: Re: Classic Tree Box Covers
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'dweller_benthos'
wrote:
> I worked up some more artwork for this set in anticipation of
> getting the discs in trade, want a look at them?
Sure, I'd be interested to see them.
Maff
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From:
'Administrator'
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 3:40
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: It has been pretty quiet this weekend
I am still moving into new house, unpacking, fixing things trying to set
things up etc. Just not much time for the TD channel. I do miss it. Just
before I can play, I got to do a bit of work. I bet there are a many more
working too for the spring clean and all.
dale
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Robert Asmus'
To: 'Tangerine Dream Tree'
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 7:45 PM
Subject: [tadream] OT: It has been pretty quiet this weekend
> Everybody must be busy as it is very quiet this weekend
>
>
>
>
>
> Robert Asmus
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 4:00
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] OT: CSA
Actually NASA works with CSA hardware a lot. Canadarm II (the arm on the
Internation Space Station) is an incredible feat of engineering. It can
connect at either end, so it can 'inch-worm' from port to port along the
station. Absolutely incredible pice of machinery. The Canadians lead the
world in robotics, at least in space applications. I believe they are even
involved with 'Robonaut' - the prototype robotic astronaut.
James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vincent [mailto:vgoudreault@v...]
>
> Tsk tsk tsk, folks. That's no way to treat us canucks.
> Canada was the 3rd country to build a statellite, back in
> the early 1960's. Also, the most powerful earth radar
> satellite is also Canadian (RadarSat) and everyone should
> know about the CanadArm that enable the Space Shuttle
> to capture and release satellites, and that is going into its
> second generation as the International Space Station
> manipulator and maintenance system.
>
> We may not be as big as the US, but we're there, and we
> are trying.
From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 7:22
pm
Subject: OT: Hotbar = spyware
Sorry about the off-topic, but I hate spyware...
This came through the NASA IT Security office. I've never heard of the
program, but it is evidently spyware.
> -----Original Message-----
> Hotbar (Hotbar.com) is marketed as a program to add graphical 'skins' to
> Microsoft Internet Explorer (IE) toolbars, and it also adds its own
> toolbar with context-sensitive link/search buttons. In addition to being
> available through the Hotbar website, it is also bundled with other free
> software, and more recently has been advertised through junk e-mail
> purporting to be a Microsoft upgrade to Outlook.
>
> The Hotbar program sends the address of every web site visited by the user
> to controlling Hotbar servers along with a unique ID that enable web usage
> habits to be tracked. Some sites are monitored more closely, with full
> URLs and/or data entered into forms being sent to Hotbar. Also, the
> Hotbar program can silently and, without the user's knowledge, download
> and execute arbitrary code at the user's desktop from controlling Hotbar
> servers.
>
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From:
'Administrator'
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 7:39
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT: Hotbar = spyware
You can add gator to that as well. The free ATT virtual server (similar to
pc anywhere)(also open source) is being used in many different ways to be
used as spyware and beyond. It is among the common hacker tools now.
Use a firewall (zone alarm works great for a software one) or some of the
spyware removal tools. Just be careful as some of the tools are also
spyware.
dale
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Owens, James'
To:
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 12:22 PM
Subject: [tadream] OT: Hotbar = spyware
> Sorry about the off-topic, but I hate spyware...
>
> This came through the NASA IT Security office. I've never heard of the
> program, but it is evidently spyware.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Hotbar (Hotbar.com) is marketed as a program to add graphical 'skins' to
> > Microsoft Internet Explorer (IE) toolbars, and it also adds its own
> > toolbar with context-sensitive link/search buttons. In addition to
being
> > available through the Hotbar website, it is also bundled with other free
> > software, and more recently has been advertised through junk e-mail
> > purporting to be a Microsoft upgrade to Outlook.
> >
> > The Hotbar program sends the address of every web site visited by the
user
> > to controlling Hotbar servers along with a unique ID that enable web
usage
> > habits to be tracked. Some sites are monitored more closely, with full
> > URLs and/or data entered into forms being sent to Hotbar. Also, the
> > Hotbar program can silently and, without the user's knowledge, download
> > and execute arbitrary code at the user's desktop from controlling Hotbar
> > servers.
> >
>
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>
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>
From:
'VicRek'
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2003 2:59
am
Subject: Ricochet Gathering T-Shirt
Hi All,
This may be off topic, but the Ricochet Gathering is coming up VERY soon (in
less than 3 weeks) and I wanted to give a quick preview of the T-Shirt design.
The on-topic content is that this is an event to celebrate the EM spirit
created by Tangerine Dream.
Check it out at:
http://www.ricochetdream.com/Mojave_T.jpg
See (some of you) there!
Vic
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From:
'Jim Moore'
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2003 3:01
am
Subject: RE: [tadream] OT: Hotbar = spyware
It's also a bear to remove once installed. A lot of the administrative
types in our office were spreading this around because they thought it was
'cute'... This program, along with Gator, doubled the traffic on our
Internet circuit at work and put our proxy server into high gear...
Must destroy where encountered...
-----Original Message-----
From: Owens, James [mailto:james.owens@m...]
Subject: [tadream] OT: Hotbar = spyware
Sorry about the off-topic, but I hate spyware...
This came through the NASA IT Security office. I've never heard of the
program, but it is evidently spyware.
From:
edgar-rainer.berberich@g...
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2003 7:11
am
Subject: Antwort: [tadream] Re: Classic Tree Box Covers
Well,
it seems to interesting. So please let me take also a look.
Please tell me the Website (link).
Mit freundlichem Grüßen / best regards
Edgar Rainer Berberich
'dweller_benthos' on 07.04.2003 17:13:30
Bitte antworten an tadream@yahoogroups.com
An: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Kopie:
Thema: [tadream] Re: Classic Tree Box Covers
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'matthewsawyer'
wrote:
>
> You can download the available covers from these links:
>
I worked up some more artwork for this set in anticipation of getting
the discs in trade, want a look at them? I did discs, back covers,
and inside tray art. I wanted to use all clear cases for this set, so
I gave them a similar appearance, but kept any exisiting art intact.
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From:
edgar-rainer.berberich@g...
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2003 7:35
am
Subject: CD Covers for Slimline Jewel Cases.
Hello Matthew,
for the past the covers for TT1, TT2, TT3, Classic Tree and other CDR's
are made for the normal Jewel Cases.
What do you think about the plan to create the Covers for Slimline Jewel
Cases ?
For the normal Jewel Cases there are two pics (Front cover and back cover).
For the Slimline Jewel Cases there can be a combination of them (double
sided cover).
Yesterday a friend showed me a Slimline Jewel Case for 2 CD's.
So for the TT1 (8 CD's) you need the half place with Slimline Jewel Cases.
Mit freundlichem Grüßen / best regards
Edgar Rainer Berberich
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From:
'jmpoer'
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2003 12:40
am
Subject: Classic Tree Database - Can't Edit
I've tried several times to edit my entry on the Classic Tree
database, to indicate that I have received my discs.
Every time I try, it produces an error, and does not change the entry.
I can get to my entry, and get into edit mode, but it won't save.
So, FWIW, I have the discs. If anyone knows how to append the entry
to the database, let me know.
jp
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From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2003 9:34
am
Subject: Another obscure reference
(No, this is not about penguins.)
http://www.theapplecollection.com/iMac/iStore/TangerineDream.html
The CD covers look pretty cool, though I suppose they're meant for CD-roms..
:-)
John Vertical
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From:
'ravnnet'
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2003 11:44
am
Subject: Award for Exit on Ebay
An Elektra award for selling 500.000 copies of EXIT is on sale at
Ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&item=2522000446&indexURL=0#ebayphotohosting
Starting at $175...
Seller will ship to US only :-(
Regards,
Peter Ravn
From:
'dweller_benthos'
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2003 12:54
pm
Subject: Re: Classic Tree Box Covers
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'matthewsawyer'
wrote:
>
> Sure, I'd be interested to see them.
>
>
> Maff
OK, go here:
http://home.earthlink.net/~benthonic/
I knew I'd find a use for that free web space eventually. I've got
these set up for use with all clear cd cases. These have clear trays
as well as clear outer cases. A lot of the newer CD releases in
stores have clear trays with artwork underneath. You can sometimes
get single clear cases at your local computer or office supply store,
but I was having a hard time finding clear double cases. I evetually
got both for a decent price (get the unassembled ones, costs less and
you don't have to take them apart first to get the tray card in) here:
http://www.sleevetown.com/
Specific links for the cases:
http://www.sleevetown.com/cd-case-single.shtml
http://www.sleevetown.com/double-cd-case.shtml
The clear double case is at the bottom of the page. These are not
like your average double case, where the whole tray is hinged, but
the hinge plate snaps in and holds the tray card in place with
separate hinges for the tray itself. These are high quality cases,
and I got my shipment very fast, well packaged.
I see they now have a 'super case' that is more durable and can hold
even more artwork. You can also find practically any other
configuration of cd case you could think of here. Have a three or
four cd set you want to put in one case? They have it, up to 6 cds in
one double wide case. You can even take the clear tray out of a
single case, and put it in a double wide 4 cd case for even more
artwork display area. I did this with a recent Rush concert release
and it turned out great.
Hope this helps :-)
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From:
'dweller_benthos'
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2003 1:00
pm
Subject: Antwort: [tadream] Re: Classic Tree Box Covers
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, edgar-rainer.berberich@g... wrote:
>
> Well,
>
> it seems to interesting. So please let me take also a look.
> Please tell me the Website (link).
>
>
>
> Mit freundlichem Grüßen / best regards
>
> Edgar Rainer Berberich
>
Sure, anyone is welcome to go here:
http://home.earthlink.net/~benthonic/
grab what you want until my bandwidth limit is reached. See also my
reply to Maff on cd cases, if you're so inclined.
From:
'Bill Fox'
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2003 1:14
pm
Subject: Soundscapes Concert Series with vidnaObmana
The Soundscapes Concert Series
proudly presents
vidnaObmana
in an all ages concert of space music
at the City of Bethlehem's IceHouse on Sand Island
56 River Street West
Bethlehem, Pennsylvania
Saturday, April 19, 2003
Concert at 8:00 pm, doors open at 7:30 pm
FREE Buffet Dinner by Chef Jeff
Tickets: $17 in advance and $20 at the door.
Soundscapes #4 is coproduced by WDS Productions and
Wooden Shoe Music.
For the fourth installment of the Soundscapes Concert Series, vidnaObmana will
perform a unique concert at the City of Bethlehem's IceHouse on Sand Island.
Located in historic Bethlehem on the north bank of the Lehigh River, the
IceHouse is a perfect venue for a concert of spacemusic. This concert will be
on Saturday, April 19, 2003, starting at 8:00 pm. The doors will open at 7:30
pm and Chef Jeff will cater a free buffet dinner. Tickets are $17 in advance
and $20 at the door. Advance tickets are be available at:
Compact Disc Center Speedy's Record Shop
1365 Easton Ave. 1001 Union Blvd.
Bethlehem, Pennsylvania Allentown, Pennsylvania
610-868-3070 610-432-8386
and on-line at:
http://electro-music.com
NOTE: Tickets purchased at the door will be discounted by $3 for those who show
their WDIY or WMUH membersip cards or their full time student ID.
INFORMATION:
http://soundscapes.us
CONTACT:
Bill Fox
billfox@f...
610-746-9615
VIDNAOBMANA:
Ambient musician vidnaObmana is one of spacemusic's brightest stars. Using
synthesizers, audio processors, and a vast array of exotic instruments, Belgian
electronic musician vidnaObmana creates a complex, layered musical journey
through rhythms, timbres, loops, and sonic atmospheres. The name vidnaObmana
means 'optical illusion' in Servo-Croation, a term he picked up while
vacationing in Croatia during his childhood. He chose this phrase as his
musical persona to illustrate how his music correlates sonically with the
surreal soundscapes he creates. vidnaObmana is a prolific composer whose
diverse body of work ranges from post-industrial through gently atmospheric, to
tribal ambient and more. His music slowly shifts through electronic audio
imagery, creating extremely personal works of atmospheric delight.
Throughout his career, vidnaObmana has explored the abrasive side of electronic
composition, using freeform soundscapes, international music traditions, and
post-classical experimentations. His music has been released widely by many
independent labels worldwide, including: Release/Relapse, Amplexus, Extreme,
Hypnos, Mirage, Multimood, Projekt and others. A significant portion of
vidnaObmana's work has been realized in collaboration with some of the world's
most interesting musicians such as Alio Die, Jeff Pearce, Steve Roach, Djen
Ajakan Shean, Asmus Tietchens, and Brannan Lane.
FLIER:
A concert flier is available for download at
http://soundscapes.us/flier4_vo.pdf You are encouraged to take an active role
in the health of the electronic music scene by printing, displaying, and
distributing this flier. Forwarding of this email message helps, too!
ROBERT RICH:
Robert Rich will come to the Soundscapes Concert Series on Saturday, July 12,
2003. Tickets will be $20 at the door and $17 in advance (on sale starting
April 20). Tickets for the July 12 Robert Rich concert which are purchased at
the April 19 Soundscapes are $15 only for vidnaObmana ticket-holders. A
concert flier for the Robert Rich show is available for download at
http://soundscapes.us/flier5_rr.pdf
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From:
'billythefish01'
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2003 2:13
pm
Subject: Astoria may close
Looks like we were lucky to see TD play live at all!
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/showbiz/articles/4238938
Drugs? What drugs!
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From:
Antonio Nunes
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2003 4:09
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Another obscure reference
'John Vertical' wrote:
>
>http://www.theapplecollection.com/iMac/iStore/TangerineDream.html
Interesting. On the 5th row you can see a Tangerine Dream Fan :-)
Antonio Nunes
np: TT Vol.17
From:
'Adele Outland'
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2003 4:34
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Ricochet Gathering T-Shirt
That's beautiful!! Who designed it? It's terrific. Will you make enough
extras for sale? I want to buy at least one more in large size. Any idea
what the cost will be so I can add it to my budget? Thanks. 8-Dell
As time slips into memory, memory fades into dreams.
>From: 'VicRek'
>Reply-To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
>To:
>CC: 'TD List'
>Subject: [tadream] Ricochet Gathering T-Shirt
>Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 22:59:02 -0400
>
>Hi All,
>
>This may be off topic, but the Ricochet Gathering is coming up VERY soon
>(in less than 3 weeks) and I wanted to give a quick preview of the T-Shirt
>design.
>
>The on-topic content is that this is an event to celebrate the EM spirit
>created by Tangerine Dream.
>
>Check it out at:
>
>http://www.ricochetdream.com/Mojave_T.jpg
>
>See (some of you) there!
>Vic
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From:
'michael leon'
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2003 11:26
am
Subject: the keep
this is not a tangerine tree inquest so maybe this won't get noticed
lol,but to what other album does the keep sound closest to in(if
any!!??) and please don't tell me its a mixed combination of other
albums,and why would some of its interest be because of the myterious
sourroundings if its own release!!?? thx...
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From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2003 5:58
pm
Subject: US South-West, Livemiles & 'tang'
I was pondering here about the concept of a possible 'southwest' themed
sampler. I like samplers. Just completed my Summer one.
And, I realized that TD has awfully many albums more or less themed on the
American southwest. Come to think of it, besides the obvious two - Canyon
Dreams and Oasis - there's at least four more. I count in White Eagle,
Wavelenght, Flashpoint and Encore (excluding Monolight). Livemiles part 1,
too.
-BTW, perhaps some parts of that track are from that film festival gig which
Sorcerer and Thief on Antique Dreams claims to originate?
--okay, I'm going off at a tangent here so I might as well continue on a
completely different issue that just sprang into my mind...
I wonder if TD is going to release another 'Tang-' album some day? There's
Tangram, Tangent (the track), Tangents and Tang-Go. So what about Tangier,
tangas, or entanglement..?
//end misc. issues mail
John Vertical
np: Bondy Parade
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From:
'Matthew Sawyer'
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2003 5:54
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Classic Tree Database - Can't Edit
From: 'jmpoer'
> I've tried several times to edit my entry on the Classic Tree
> database, to indicate that I have received my discs.
>
> Every time I try, it produces an error, and does not change the entry.
>
> I can get to my entry, and get into edit mode, but it won't save.
>
> So, FWIW, I have the discs. If anyone knows how to append the entry
> to the database, let me know.
I can't edit the Classic Tree database either, and I set it up. The 'Received'
field is rather pointless anyway; I'm not checking through the database to see
who has their copies because most people can't/don't update their entry. When
you get your discs, just let you branch (and leaves, if any) know.
Maff
From:
'Matthew Sawyer'
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2003 6:34
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Classic Tree Box Covers
From: 'dweller_benthos'
> http://home.earthlink.net/~benthonic/
Very nice!
> A lot of the newer CD releases in
> stores have clear trays with artwork underneath.
Already planning that for future Trees. :-)
Maff
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From:
'dweller_benthos'
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2003 7:29
pm
Subject: Re: Classic Tree Box Covers
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Matthew Sawyer'
wrote:
> From: 'dweller_benthos'
>
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~benthonic/
>
>
> Very nice!
>
>
Thanks!
> > A lot of the newer CD releases in
> > stores have clear trays with artwork underneath.
>
>
> Already planning that for future Trees. :-)
>
>
> Maff
Excellent, I'll have to stock up on more clear cases then :-) Not to
mention more double sided inkjet paper and cd labels.
From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2003 8:18
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] the keep
Much of the music played in the movie comes from 'Logos' (or perhaps the
other way around?)
Some of the rest of the movie music is unreleased cuts from the same tour.
Most of the interest comes from the fact that there was a planned LP release
back in 1984... Since a lot of the music on the official TDI release appears
to be made with 'modern' instrumentation (sounds that weren't available in
1984), there is
a lot of interest in what music was actually on the LP.
I suspect that had the Keep actually become widely available on LP, it would
just be another obscure TD soundtrack...
James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: michael leon [mailto:pre_sent2002@y...]
>
> this is not a tangerine tree inquest so maybe this won't get noticed
> lol,but to what other album does the keep sound closest to in(if
> any!!??) and please don't tell me its a mixed combination of other
> albums,and why would some of its interest be because of the myterious
> sourroundings if its own release!!?? thx...
From:
'Jim Moore'
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2003 11:06
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Astoria may close
You apparently didn't see the guy standing in front of me... I ask: what
'gun culture'?
- jim
-----Original Message-----
From: billythefish01 [mailto:mudspanker@y...]
Looks like we were lucky to see TD play live at all!
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/showbiz/articles/4238938
Drugs? What drugs!
From:
'Craig Shipley'
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2003 6:34
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] the keep
'Logos' is about as close as you are gonna get, since the final movement of
'Logos pt. I' was the piece that was featured in the crypt scene. IIRC, all
the other music was unique and is not heard elsewhere on any legal release.
And I ain't gonna touch the 'release-immediate retraction' controversy with
a ten-foot pole...
Ship
> -----Original Message-----
> From: michael leon [mailto:pre_sent2002@y...]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 7:27 AM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [tadream] the keep
>
>
> this is not a tangerine tree inquest so maybe this won't get noticed
> lol,but to what other album does the keep sound closest to in(if
> any!!??) and please don't tell me its a mixed combination of other
> albums,and why would some of its interest be because of the myterious
> sourroundings if its own release!!?? thx...
>
>
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From:
Robert Bock
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2003 8:20
pm
Subject: Talking during concerts Laguna 86
Hi everybody,
I have been traveling for awhile and was catching up on some old digests
when I saw some complaints about the TT, in paricular the Laguna Hills
show from 1986 and all the talking going on during the show.
The person (jim i think) was wondering what was going on, why were these
people talking and did they pay money to go to this show. Well I was at
this show actually, and they may not have paid money to go to this show.
At the time as I remeber it, one of the local movie chains gave away
free ticktets to this show if you bought a certain amount of tickets to
a movie. I think the movie was Legend but I'm not sure although it was a
movie that TD did the soundtrack to. If I really am remebering right I
believe TD played the Universal Ampitheater day or too before and since
only 50 miles seperate the two facilites I think the giveaway was
because they didn't sell alot of seats for this show. As I call recall
only the bottom part of the place was full and everybody was changing
seats however we pleased and no one stopped us. So you did get alot of
people there that weren't into TD but the ticket was free, it was a nice
night, and it beat staying at home...
It was a great show though. And I had already bought a ticket. Oh well,
RObert
From:
William Campbell
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 1:29
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Classic Tree Box Covers
Thanks for the info on sleevetown. Fair shipping rates, too.
Bill
...
> got both for a decent price (get the unassembled ones, costs less and
> you don't have to take them apart first to get the tray card in) here:
>
> http://www.sleevetown.com/
>
.
From:
'Georg Oppenberg'
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 9:20
am
Subject: Re: Re: Tangerine Leaves Sign Up Instructions
Hi all,
maybe we should insert a new category in the Tree databases: Redbook,
SHN and SHN-FTP. Person who chose the latter and offer also to be a
branch, don't have to wait for their branch to send them CDs but can
download and start burning immidiately after the discs become available.
This might make the database more precise and distribution of the music
even faster. My server is not too limited and can seed lots of of
'virtual' branches on the tree then.
Thougts?
Cheers
Georg
> --- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Georg Oppenberg'
> wrote:
> > Hi Jerry,
> >
> > I will gladly offer my fast FTP server ftp://tl.rondua.de for SHN
> > download. This worked well for TT3 in cooperation with Michael
> Berling,
> > so I think we're a good team now and get this up very quickly!
> >
> > Cheers
> > Georg
>
> That's fine with me. I'll send Georg one of the SHN sets as soon as
> they are complete.
>
> Thanks, Georg, for your offer. I think your service is highly
> appreciated by many list members!
>
> Regards
> Michael
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From:
'tei waz'
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 1:41
pm
Subject: clearly ot: robert rich
Robert Rich 2003 Summer Tour Dates--if yer interested--clip and save
Here's a list of confirmed (*) and unconfirmed (?) dates.
*Sunday May 4 - San Francisco, CA
Morrison Planetarium
opening act: jhno
information: www.dub-beautiful.org
*Friday May 16 - Piedmont, CA
8:00 PM, Piedmont Yoga Studio
Solo Piano Improvisation
*Friday June 6 - Scottsdale AZ
Kerr Cultural Center
The Overtones will play after Robert Rich
(They are a just intonation 'reggae' band - really!)
*Sunday June 8 - Albuquerque, NM
Radio Sleep Concert, Nonsequiter radio arts festival
*Sat. June 14 - Atlanta, GA
The Eyedrum
Opening acts: Lanterna, Envie
Renee Nelson (envie@m...)
*Tues. June 17 - Asheville, NC
Vincents Ear, 9:30 PM (opening act 9 PM)
68B North Lexington, Asheville
$6 at the door
phone 828-259-9119
Rick Morris (vincentsear@c...)
*Fri. June 20 - Pittsburgh PA
Rex Theater
Opening: Jeff Pearce, Life in Balance
*Sunday June 22
Harrisburg, PA, Whitaker Science Center
(301 Market Street, Harrisburg PA 17101)
Summer Solstice Concert with Steve Roach, Robert Rich, John Serrie, Jeff
Pearce
Start time 2 :00 PM
? Thur July 10 upstate NY
? Friday July 11 - Baltimore MD
*Saturday July 12 - Bethlehem PA
IceHouse on Sand Island, Soundscapes #5
56 River Street West
Doors open at 7:30 pm, Concert at 8:00 pm
(Free Dinner Buffet provided by Chef Jeff - to be confirmed)
General Admission $20 at the door, $17 in advance)
*Wednesday July 16 - Columbus OH
Dragonfly Neo-V Cuisine
247 King Ave., Columbus, OH 43201
Venue ptelephone: 614-298-9986
www.dragonflyneov.com
*Friday July 18 - Louisville, KY
U of L School of Music Recital Hall
opening act: SKL; starting 8:30
Contact: jason@k..., info: www.krack.org
? Sunday July 20 - Chicago, IL
? Tuesday July 22 - Peoria IL
*Friday, Saturday July 25, 26 - Denver CO
Either two house concerts, or Public Friday, House Saturday.
*Saturday August 2 - Seattle WA
Secluded Alley Works, 113 12th Ave, Seattle, WA 98122
Info: www.secludedalleyworks.org
Contact: glurpseattle@y... (206) 679-9143
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From:
'dweller_benthos'
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 2:23
pm
Subject: Re: Tangerine Leaves Sign Up Instructions
I would definitely prefer to obtain the discs via ftp, especially
yours, which is so fast two nights of downloading and it would be
done.
From:
'VicRek'
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2003 11:04
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Ricochet Gathering T-Shirt
Hi Dell -
Well Jakub and I designed it - we've been working on it some time.
About 100 T-Shirts will be made. All will be sold at cost - but only to
those that attend.
I hope the TD fans will join and support us!
www.ricochetdream.com
And of course you can still join us...
Just email me at tangerinedream@h...
(but time is running out - just a few days left before the gate is closed)
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Adele Outland'
To:
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Ricochet Gathering T-Shirt
> That's beautiful!! Who designed it? It's terrific. Will you make enough
> extras for sale? I want to buy at least one more in large size. Any idea
> what the cost will be so I can add it to my budget? Thanks. 8-Dell
From:
'VicRek'
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2003 11:32
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] US South-West, Livemiles & 'tang'
Yes - we have a 'REAL' sampler in the making...
Just go to www.ricochetdream.com - if you don't get the details from the
page - then just email ME if you're serious about having a TIME OF YOUR
LIFE!
Vic
----- Original Message -----
From: 'John Vertical'
To:
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 1:58 PM
Subject: [tadream] US South-West, Livemiles & 'tang'
> I was pondering here about the concept of a possible 'southwest' themed
> sampler. I like samplers. Just completed my Summer one.
> And, I realized that TD has awfully many albums more or less themed on the
> American southwest. Come to think of it, besides the obvious two - Canyon
> Dreams and Oasis - there's at least four more. I count in White Eagle,
> Wavelenght, Flashpoint and Encore (excluding Monolight). Livemiles part 1,
> too.
>
> -BTW, perhaps some parts of that track are from that film festival gig
which
> Sorcerer and Thief on Antique Dreams claims to originate?
>
> --okay, I'm going off at a tangent here so I might as well continue on a
> completely different issue that just sprang into my mind...
> I wonder if TD is going to release another 'Tang-' album some day? There's
> Tangram, Tangent (the track), Tangents and Tang-Go. So what about Tangier,
> tangas, or entanglement..?
>
> //end misc. issues mail
>
> John Vertical
> np: Bondy Parade
>
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From:
'Matthew Sawyer'
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 4:49
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Re: Tangerine Leaves Sign Up Instructions
From: 'Georg Oppenberg'
> maybe we should insert a new category in the Tree databases: Redbook,
> SHN and SHN-FTP.
I've amended the 'format' option on the database to: Redbook/SHN/SHN-FTP.
Anyone who has signed up already who would like to change to SHN-FTP, you will
most likely need to email me and I will alter your record in the database.
Maff
From:
Eric Williamson
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 5:05
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] clearly ot: robert rich
Quoting tei waz :
> ? Tuesday July 22 - Peoria IL
I'm actually putting that show on.
It's in my storefront studio in downtown Chillicothe (a satellite town of
Peoria), only a 2 hour drive from the western Chicago suburbs. Time is yet
undecided, but will be in the expected 7-8 range. i have room for only 30
people, so if you'd like to purchase a ticket or need directions please email
me.
---
Eric Williamson
www.suitandtieguy.com
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From:
Marion Horrod
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 5:27
pm
Subject: 'tang'
John wondered whether TD might issue a 'tangas' release. But I think the
'other' Tangerine Dream may have already done it (or doesn't she normally
wear them?)
LnH
Marion
'The glass is neither half full or half empty. It's twice the size it needs
to be ...' S. Blakemore
From:
'MK'
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 5:21
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Re: Tangerine Leaves Sign Up Instructions
Hello,
I would like to change my format option to SHN-FTP.
regards
Marcin Kusibab
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Matthew Sawyer'
To:
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Re: Tangerine Leaves Sign Up Instructions
> From: 'Georg Oppenberg'
>
> > maybe we should insert a new category in the Tree databases: Redbook,
> > SHN and SHN-FTP.
>
>
> I've amended the 'format' option on the database to: Redbook/SHN/SHN-FTP.
>
> Anyone who has signed up already who would like to change to SHN-FTP, you
will
> most likely need to email me and I will alter your record in the database.
>
>
> Maff
>
>
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From:
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 7:43
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Re: Re: Tangerine Leaves Sign Up Instructions
It's a quite good idea I think...
Thx George.
__________________________
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mailto:jarek@w...
Visit my websites at:
http://www.tangerinedream.pl/
http://www.klausmusic.pl/
http://www.wiktorowicz.pl/
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Georg Oppenberg [mailto:Georg.Oppenberg@g...]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 11:21 AM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [tadream] Re: Re: Tangerine Leaves Sign Up Instructions
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> maybe we should insert a new category in the Tree databases: Redbook,
> SHN and SHN-FTP. Person who chose the latter and offer also to be a
> branch, don't have to wait for their branch to send them CDs but can
> download and start burning immidiately after the discs become
> available.
> This might make the database more precise and distribution of
> the music
> even faster. My server is not too limited and can seed lots of of
> 'virtual' branches on the tree then.
> Thougts?
>
> Cheers
> Georg
>
> > --- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Georg Oppenberg'
> > wrote:
> > > Hi Jerry,
> > >
> > > I will gladly offer my fast FTP server ftp://tl.rondua.de for SHN
> > > download. This worked well for TT3 in cooperation with Michael
> > Berling,
> > > so I think we're a good team now and get this up very quickly!
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Georg
> >
> > That's fine with me. I'll send Georg one of the SHN sets as soon as
> > they are complete.
> >
> > Thanks, Georg, for your offer. I think your service is highly
> > appreciated by many list members!
> >
> > Regards
> > Michael
>
>
>
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>
From:
'Bill Fox'
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 3:50
am
Subject: Instrumental Weekly Interview...
Jim Dlugosinski has published an interview with yours truely at
www.instrumentalweekly.com ...
Cheers,
Bill
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From:
shez@a...
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 8:31
am
Subject: Questions about Peter Baumann
Hello,
I'm glad to discover Peter Baumann's solo work, it's up to now my
favourite music for a solo work of a TD member.
I'd like to know if Peter did some gigs in the 70's or 80's.
Are their some recordings (unofficial of course) known to exist?
A good french friend told me he saw Peter Baumann performs in 1976 in
the city of Orange in the 'Theatre antique' but I suspect, he's
actually talking about a TD performance there.
finally, Do you know what Peter is doing now, since he left the music
business in the early 90?
Do he live in Germany or in the US?
and finally, I'm searching for a copy of the 12' single for 'Repeat
Repeat' , if you have one for sale, please contact me.
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From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 9:14
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Classic Tree Box Covers
> > > A lot of the newer CD releases in
> > > stores have clear trays with artwork underneath.
> >
> >
> > Already planning that for future Trees. :-)
> >
> >
> > Maff
>
>Excellent, I'll have to stock up on more clear cases then :-) Not to
>mention more double sided inkjet paper and cd labels.
Like the TDI releases? Hmm, is it just me or is the tree getting more and
more complex along time?
I'd currently prefer to keep it simple, but who knows, after I have
completed at least some leaflets for TT3 I might change my mind...
And I've had to use two separate sheets glued together (that's the plan -
still need to find a good glue) so I hope the future leaflets aren't planned
too thick.
John Vertical
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From:
'matthewsawyer'
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 9:55
am
Subject: Re: Classic Tree Box Covers
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'John Vertical'
wrote:
> Like the TDI releases? Hmm, is it just me or
> is the tree getting more and
> more complex along time?
It's just you John.
> I'd currently prefer to keep it simple, but
> who knows,
I prefer to make the tree projects as cool and professional looking
as possible. I wouldn't want the remasterers to 'keep it simple' and
do nothing more than just take out the odd bit of tape hiss.
> after I have completed at least
> some leaflets for TT3 I might change my mind...
> And I've had to use two separate sheets glued
> together (that's the plan - still need to find
> a good glue)
No wonder you're not keen on this, you're doing it the wrong way. Get
some double sided matt paper and use the printer calibration sheet I
provided to print accurately on both sides. Or don't. You don't
_have_ to print the covers and liners you know. I only print them for
testing and sending copies to Edgar. All my discs are archived in
pastic wallets in a box :-).
Maff
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From:
'Owens, James'
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 1:46
pm
Subject: RE: [tadream] Questions about Peter Baumann
Responses:
-----Original Message-----
>I'd like to know if Peter did some gigs in the 70's or 80's.
>Are their some recordings (unofficial of course) known to exist?
It's possible, but I've never heard of any (I'm not the expert in these
matters though... :-)
>A good french friend told me he saw Peter Baumann performs in 1976 in
>the city of Orange in the 'Theatre antique' but I suspect, he's
>actually talking about a TD performance there.
TD did indeed perform in Orange in 1976. On the recordings I've heard,
Baumann actually makes several announcements during the performance,
some in French, some in English. Perhaps that's why your friend
remembers it being Baumann.
>finally, Do you know what Peter is doing now, since he left the music
>business in the early 90?
>Do he live in Germany or in the US?
Last I heard he bought a resort in Mexico...
From:
'creative_operator'
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 7:45
pm
Subject: TT1 availability
Can someone please advise if TT1 (SHN) is available via FTP ?
Many thanks for your time.
Regards
Derek
From:
'dweller_benthos'
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 8:34
pm
Subject: Re: Classic Tree Box Covers
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'John Vertical'
wrote:
> I'd currently prefer to keep it simple, but who knows, after I have
> completed at least some leaflets for TT3 I might change my mind...
> And I've had to use two separate sheets glued together (that's the
plan -
> still need to find a good glue) so I hope the future leaflets
aren't planned
> too thick.
>
> John Vertical
>
I use Konica's professional double-sided inkjet paper. It's a bit on
the thick side, but works well. Kodak has a thinner double-sided
paper, but it tends to smudge a bit when you handle it. I then trim
everything with a Carl Bogen rotary blade trimmer, fold and staple
with a long arm stapler. The end result looks like a commercial
release.
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From:
'duncan mckee'
Date: Fri Apr 11, 2003 9:49
am
Subject: mota atma
hi all
looks like TD have done it again, Mota Atma has been put back until 6th may now
http://www.voiceprint.co.uk/catalogue.php/Release/1072/
this will probalbly mean we may actually see this release sometime in october
:-)
Regards
Duncan McKee
tangram@t...
www.tadream.co.uk
www.tangerine-dream.co.uk
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From:
TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak
Date: Fri Apr 11, 2003 10:28
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT on my own behalf
>Hi fellow listizens,
I apologize for the OT ... but as I´ve noticed that there are a few people
on this list who are also into the darker varieties of music, I thought I´d
drop some 'commercial spam' on my own behalf, as my new album is out!
Here´s the newsflash:
New Sepulcrum Mentis album 'Salvation' completed and available!!!
We are proud to announce that we have received the first pressing run of
the new SM-album 'Salvation' fresh from the plant! The album will be
available in Europe via SX Distribution and should be hitting the shops
at the end of this month. In case you can´t wait, you can also order
directly from me:
price: EUR 10,-
plus packing and shipping:
Germany: EUR 2,50
Europe: EUR 4,00
rest of world: EUR 9,00
You can also order the two still available backcatalogue CD´s to
minimize postage.
To order, send an e-mail to: marty@s...
The style is old-fashioned goth rock with a touch of Bowie´s theatralicity
and some prog elements. We use guitars, drums, violins and some vintage
synth sounds.
more info on the band: www.sepulcrum-mentis.de
anyone interested contact me at my above home address.
To bring this back on topic: actually, Jerome mastered the album (which was
very nice of him indeed :-))
Best regards,
Martin Kasprzak
TDI- Music- Support.
Tel:-49-30-23620995
Fax:-49-30-23620996
Visit our Website at:
http://www.tangerinedream.org
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From:
'Bill Fox'
Date: Fri Apr 11, 2003 1:18
pm
Subject: EMUSIC Playlist #316 for April 10, 2003
EMUSIC is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday
at 11:00 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton,
PA and Phillipsburg, NJ.
Show #316 April 10, 2003.
RECAP:
On this show, I continued the month-long focus on vidnaObmana, an international
ambient artist from Belgium who will play an in-studio radio concert on the
April 17th broadcast of EMUSIC and a concert at the next Soundscapes in
Bethlehem, Pennsylvania on April 19. The Featured CD at Midnight was 'Spore'
on the Relapse label.
The Vinyl Starter was from the LP 'Ages' by Edgar Froese on Virgin Records.
I played the music of Vir Unis and James Johnson who will be at the next
Gathering on April 12 in Philadelphia. I also played the music of Matt Borghi
who, with Jason Sloan, will appears on the same bill with vidnaObmana at the
Gate to Moonbase Alpha on April 18 also in Philadelphia.
vidnaObmana - http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic/playlists/2003/focus03.html#apr
The Soundscapes Concert Series - http://soundscapes.us
The Gate to Moonbase Alpha - http://foundationarts.org
The Gatherings Concert Series - http://thegatherings.org
PLAYLIST:
ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label)
======================= ======================== ==============================
11:00 pm
Edgar Froses Childrens Deeper Study Ages (Virgin)
Hypnosphere Sleepwalk Within the Whirl (Spheric)
Vir Unis and Geometry of Recursion Perimeter (In the Bubble Music
James Johnson and Zero Music)
Matt Borghi Wonder-filled Illusion Elegy for Time (Space for
Music)
Ken Martin Impressions Berlin Impressions Vol. 3
(Space for Music)
Gordon Rhyne and Luminosity Ecstasis (Space for Music)
Zero Ohms
12:00 am
vidnaObmana Through the Collective Spore (Relapse)
Pain
vidnaObmana The Humanity Underneath Spore (Relapse)
vidnaObmana Skin Strip Spore (Relapse)
vidnaObmana Duality of Passion Spore (Relapse)
vidnaObmana Beyond the Shaman Spore (Relapse)
vidnaObmana The Nihilist Spore (Relapse)
vidnaObmana Creep-Isolation Trip Spore (Relapse)
vidnaObmana Spore * Spore (Relapse)
1:00 am
* = exerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)
NEXT SHOW:
On the next EMUSIC, I'll continue the month-long focus on vidnaObmana. The
Featured CD at Midnight will be replaced by a live, in-studio radio concert by
vidnaObmana.
The vinyl show starter will be from the LP 'Grand Canyon' by Tomita on the RCA
Red Seal label.
I will also play the music of Mother Mallard's Portable Masterpiece Company
who will be appearing at the Gatherings concert series on May 10.
Bill
===============================================================================
Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11
pm (GMT-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton
and Phillipsburg. Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN
EMUSIC web site - http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic
To subscribe to the EMUSIC-on-WDIY mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emusic-wdiy
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From:
bradley_duke@u...
Date: Fri Apr 11, 2003 1:13
pm
Subject: TD Collection on Ebay
Hi Folks,
Can someone tell me if the enormous TD collection (with the b&w tour
poster) that had the 'Buy it Now' for $3,000 actually sold?
(I'm hoping to appeal to his or her good nature and make an offer for the
poster if they're interested!) It's killing me that this was included in
the lot and not sold separately. I enjoy collecting TD posters, but was not
about to spend three months worth of mortgage payments for it!
Thanks.
Bradley S. Duke
Change Management Coordinator
Data Center Operations
IBM Software Group
(978) 399-7189
From:
Date: Fri Apr 11, 2003 1:38
pm
Subject: Klaus Schulze - Transfer Tape for sale.
Hello all,
I have following item from Klaus Schulze for sale:
TRANSFER (Tape-Chromium Dioxide Audíophile)
Label: Gramavision Inc. 18-7025-4
Released: USA 1984
Condition: mint--
If you want a photo as JPEG of this item, please ask me.
offers please to:
e-mail: heiko@o...
Cheers
heiko
http://www.tribute-to-ashra.de
http://www.opticaldream.de
Sign up for your free PAYPAL account:
https://www.paypal.com/refer/pal=WDJX3DNKVFJ9E
cool link: http://www.klamm.de/?refid=62978
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From:
'dweller_benthos'
Date: Fri Apr 11, 2003 3:45
pm
Subject: Re: Classic Tree Box Covers
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Jim Moore' wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dweller_benthos [mailto:benthonic@e...]
> >I then trim
> everything with a Carl Bogen rotary blade trimmer, fold and staple
> with a long arm stapler. The end result looks like a commercial
> release.
>
> Can one get one of these trimmers at a general office supply store?
>
> - jim
I have seen similar types of cutters in Staples and Office Max here
in the states, but not the Bogen brand. Your results may vary. I got
mine from B&H Photo in NYC, their website is:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/
The specific page for the 12' model like mine is:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bh4.sph/FrameWork.class?
FNC=ProductActivator__Aproductlist_html___225469___CADC101___REG___Cat
ID=0___SID=F4B6816F2E0
The good thing about the Bogen cutters is that you can change cutting
blades easily. Other brands may do this as well, never checked. I use
the perforating blade to perforate the fold on the spine of the tray
card. Look at your average commercial release and you'll see the fold
is perforated, makes for easy folding and exact positioning. Then I
cut the card out with the cutting blade, fold and drop in the case.
For single covers, I just print front and back on double sided paper
and cut it out. For 'liner note' bootlet style, I print on double
sided paper, and then use a scoring blade to crease the paper where
the fold is, then fold and insert. If the booklet is two pages, I
staple them together.
From:
John McIntyre
Date: Fri Apr 11, 2003 3:51
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Taken / Firestarter
Gary Jenkins wrote:
> --- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Richard wrote:
> > And talking of Firestarter, anyone seen/watched the Firestarter 2
> that
> > sneaked out on DVD WITHOUT a TD soundtrack?
> >
> > Any good, or is it like most sequels, a cheap and nasty copy of the
> > original?
> >
The best part is the opening sequence where Charly has a bad dream and her
fire starting powers get out of control. She wakes up to find her bedding on
fire. With a bored 'Here we go again' expression she pulls out her bedside
fire extinguisher and douses the flames.
John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept
Michigan State University
mcintyre@p...
From:
tadream@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri Apr 11, 2003 4:23
pm
Subject: New file uploaded to tadream
Hello,
This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the tadream
group.
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Uploaded by : tmrichmond53051
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To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files
Regards,
tmrichmond53051
From:
'Tom Richmond'
Date: Fri Apr 11, 2003 4:35
pm
Subject: 'Between the Stars' Tribute CDR Tree
Tree Structure is available in the tadream 'files' area on YahooGroups.
Branches are responsible for leaves/branches shown to their immediate right.
Conversely, your source will be to your immediate left.
Email addresses included for your convenience communicating with each other.
Cheers!
Tom
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From:
Art Of Vision
Date: Fri Apr 11, 2003 5:07
pm
Subject: Tangerine Dream :)))
Ever been there?
www.tangerinedream.com ;)))
Art Of Vision
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From:
'Pergamon'
Date: Fri Apr 11, 2003 6:44
pm
Subject: Re: [tadream] 'Between the Stars' Tribute CDR Tree
I just tried to have a look at this file and it was all screwed up. I could
see a few mailadresses, thats it. Any suggestions?????
Jan
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Tom Richmond'
To: ; ;
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 6:35 PM
Subject: [tadream] 'Between the Stars' Tribute CDR Tree
> Tree Structure is available in the tadream 'files' area on YahooGroups.
> Branches are responsible for leaves/branches shown to their immediate
right.
> Conversely, your source will be to your immediate left.
> Email addresses included for your convenience communicating with each
other.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Tom
>
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From:
'Paul Dryden'
Date: Sat Apr 12, 2003 9:38
am
Subject: Sounds
Did someone on the list mention that a catalogue of TD sound samples were on a
website?
also did anyone recreate the alien seagull effect? In CT's 'Strange Attractors'
Majave Plan towards the 3rd part, near the skip, the seagull sound is heard. Is
the seagull effect a continous sound or the one-shot cry?
Paulus.d
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From:
'Paul Dryden'
Date: Sat Apr 12, 2003 9:57
am
Subject: attn Martin at TDI
Would TDI give permission for 30 second sound bites fron TD's music being used
to accompany a on-line history of TD?
obviously the origin and FULL credit would be part of the website.
Just a quick one but wanted to check the TDI position in this..
Paulus.d
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From:
'Paul Dryden'
Date: Sat Apr 12, 2003 10:02
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Tangerine Dream :)))
Very Funny!!!
I allways associated that colour with Leyland cars back in the 70's
Paulus.d
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Art Of Vision'
To:
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 6:07 PM
Subject: [tadream] Tangerine Dream :)))
> Ever been there?
> www.tangerinedream.com ;)))
>
> Art Of Vision
>
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From:
'John Vertical'
Date: Sat Apr 12, 2003 11:25
am
Subject: Re: [tadream] Instrumental Weekly Interview...
One comment: isn't the recipients list a bit spammer-friendly here...?
John Vertical
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